Stargate: Extinction" (SGA Movie) Pre-Airing Discussion/Speculation Thread (Spoilers)

[jenks]

According to recent news there's a 2 hour Atlantis movie in the works. Thoughts? Expectations?

Discuss.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Include Ford.

[raysood]

i'm kind of glad that atlantis has been cancelled. i loved the first two seasons, third was okay, and from the fourth season i just started loosing interest. what made me lose my interest is that atlantis has no main storyline. didnt like the way they got rid of weir and bought in carter, and then woolsey. whatever it is they're planning hope the writers can do something to fix it.

[Dezrai]

I agree (that I no longer have need to watch the SCI FI channel.) I have been watching eureka, but now I'm mad enough to boycott the SCI FI channel all together! What is it with them?? And no offense to the producers, but I could give a dang about Stargate Universe now that they are canceling Atlantis in favor of it! I'd rather have Atlantis! What is wrong with these people??? Didn't Atlantis get favorite Sci Fi show at the People's Choice Awards???

[Ruined_puzzle]

Elizabeth and Carson in it. Plz.

[globex]

Don't include a movie. Simple. The concept of a movie is horrible for SG. It brings shame on the concept of SGA.

MGM excutives are on drugs

[TraK]

Maybe you are the one on drugs. Have you seen how well the two SG1 movies did?

Shocking news about the cancellation.
but Bring on the Atlantis movie!!!!

[jenks]

Don't include a movie. Simple. The concept of a movie is horrible for SG. It brings shame on the concept of SGA.

MGM excutives are on drugs

What's your reasoning?

[Ganthet Jr.]

Don't include a movie. Simple. The concept of a movie is horrible for SG. It brings shame on the concept of SGA.

MGM excutives are on drugs

How's that? It began as a movie...

[Dezrai]

I don't mind the idea of an Atlantis movie, but I thought that it would be years away (hopefully 5 more!) I just read that one of the writers or producers was saying it was too expensive to film in Canada, or to film period. So move the show! And aren't they talking about Stargate Universe the series? Won't that be just as expensive to film?? And they are leaving Season 5 on a total cliff hanger. Why? They are going about this all wrong.

[Kidwizz]

yeah lol. SG began as a movie...

and sga needs a movie finish... i mean... cliff hanger!!!

[jenks]

I don't mind the idea of an Atlantis movie, but I thought that it would be years away (hopefully 5 more!) I just read that one of the writers or producers was saying it was too expensive to film in Canada, or to film period. So move the show!

To where?


And aren't they talking about Stargate Universe the series? Won't that be just as expensive to film??

Every season costs more than the last due to actor wage rises, so season 1 of a new show will always be cheaper than season 6.



And they are leaving Season 5 on a total cliff hanger. Why? They are going about this all wrong.

Because the scripts were written, and locations booked, long before they knew they'd been canceled.

[Dezrai]

In the article he said that it was more expensive to film there. I understand that most of the actors are Canadian, but Joe Flanigan isn't. Why don't they move it to the US if it is cheaper?

[g.o.d]

I'm expecting another miraculous magical superweapon, like ark or grail...

[Dezrai]

Also, how do they know that a new series will draw the crowd of the old series? Even if it is cheaper to make a season 1 than a season 6, if it doesn't draw the crowd...

[Knight_ofthe_Word]

To where?

ahhh somewhere cheaper? =)

[obsidian1771]

Think about the costing ... We already know that in SG Universe the sets are limited to the 2 Ancient ships, which, like the SGC's Gateroom or Atlantis' Control Room, can be used over and over and over again. Any planets, etc. can be done on blue screen (look at Sanctuary) saving a whole pile of money - let's hope it's usEd to fund more SG-1 + SGA movies.

[ussrelativity]

Include Ford.

They had better!

[Jeff O'Connor]

There's little I can suggest with solidarity regarding the storyline until I've seen at least the upcoming two-parter, and more than anything the cliffhanger finale.

I'd say in terms of random things, I'd love to see Ford and Weir. I'd also want the Genii to be important somehow. Outside of that, I'm way too mentally screwed up right now when it comes to the franchise to delve too deeply.

I read the headline while I was still at work, and I feel like after years with the franchise always, you know, coming back next year as one (or two) new seasons, I've suddenly lost a close friend. Nevermind that SGA will continue as SG-1 has been doing... it's just... heh. Yeah.

[globex]

Maybe you are the one on drugs. Have you seen how well the two SG1 movies did?

Shocking news about the cancellation.
but Bring on the Atlantis movie!!!!

Well for starters your point has got many flaws in it.

1. The reason why the SG-1 movies did so well was because, there was a huge gap between the movies and the ending of the series. More than two years from memory. So fans were egar to how are Ori going to be defeated.

2. There was a hype created from ever since a movie was planned(don't deny it). So people thought this is going to be cool. No doubt the concept was cool. The storyline was brilliant. But the way it was executed was very poor. Too many things happened at once. Too many things were discounted from the story. That's why the first movie never sold that well and got a very poor rating....
Stargate(1994)(rating 6.6/10) 35,000 votes. They can't be wrong ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111282/

Stargate AOT was given 7.2 and Continium was give 7.5. Compared to SG-1 as a series thats very low for an awesome series.


3. People had the impression that if we were to buy the movies it would allow continuation of the series. We still don't know whether the 3rd movie will be the last.


Tbh, the story felt bland and boring(AOT and Continium), and rushed. As I have stated on numerous occassions that Stargate cannot be placed into a 2 hour blockbuster. There are too many variables to think of. Don't kid yourself or give the writers the benefit of the doubt. Because, as being a long time SG-1 fan you cannot end the Ori Story in 2.1 seasons. The story could have easily been streched for another series.

[Laura Dove]

How's that? It began as a movie...

As a crappy movie, IMO. Beautiful landscapes but other than that, mostly uninteresting.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Yeah, see, I never thought the original movie was all that great, either. My mom loved it, but outside of the concept being utter brilliance, the landscapes being very beautiful, and...

...Yeah, I think that was about it, too. The characters were vastly uninspired with the exception of Daniel Jackson, who got mostly mediocre lines like largely the rest of the cast. The storyline was epic, but its execution was kind of pisspoor, and I've never been a Kurt Russell fan to begin with, so that didn't help.

AoT and Continuum, on the other hand, for whatever they were, had a hell of a lot of SG-1 backlog to help keep them moving along. The dialogue was a lot better than the original Stargate movie's, I thought, and with only a couple of required 'because it's Stargate' cringe moments (in my book -- I count virtually every single sudden close-up and music-cranker-upper of a Goa'uld in Stargate history as kind of a cringe factor) they were much more balanced.

I would give the original flick a 5, but AoT would get an 8 and Continuum about the same. Too much happened, not enough happened, this, that, and the other thing, but I think Stargate really has its **** together these days compared to its Emmerich inception.

I don't see why the SGA continuations couldn't be any different, apart from the fact that I definitely find the Ori arc more interesting than that of the Wraith. Whatever the new enemy is, I hope it's really good, and that ought to help -- but at the same time, as I dreaded typing if and when I got the news of SGA's weekly cancellation, I hope it isn't too good. For all the complaints about the Ori getting two seasons, imagine ten episodes and a two-hour finish line...

By the way, globex: It was barely a single year, not over two years, since the final SG-1 weekly episode before Ark of Truth. Just an FYI.

[Laura Dove]

I don't see why the SGA continuations couldn't be any different, apart from the fact that I definitely find the Ori arc more interesting than that of the Wraith.

I hope you're right, except I love the wraith. But even if future SGA films prove to be good, 1 or 2 films a year will never be the same as a 15 hours season. :(

[Jeff O'Connor]

I hope you're right, except I love the wraith. But even if future SGA films prove to be good, 1 or 2 films a year will never be the same as a 15 hours season. :(

Don't get me wrong. I like the Wraith, at least. I don't hate them. I don't even dislike or feel neutral toward them. I do like them, heh. I just liked the Ori more, is all.

[crazy_kitty85]

'Tbh, the story felt bland and boring(AOT and Continium), and rushed. As I have stated on numerous occassions that Stargate cannot be placed into a 2 hour blockbuster. There are too many variables to think of. Don't kid yourself or give the writers the benefit of the doubt. Because, as being a long time SG-1 fan you cannot end the Ori Story in 2.1 seasons. The story could have easily been streched for another series.'


Finally someone else who thinks the SG1 movies just weren't that good. We had 2 seasons with the Ori (I will admit to not having liked those seasons much anyway, been as RDA was missing) and then it all gets ended in a rush. I fear the same will happen for Atlantis.

I agree though that if they are making a film they should bring back Ford, It is something I would have liked to have seen in subsequent seasons that now won't be happening.

[globex]

By the way, globex: It was barely a single year, not over two years, since the final SG-1 weekly episode before Ark of Truth. Just an FYI.

My apologise...It felt like two years to me :p. I really did miss the show :(

[Jeff O'Connor]

Finally someone else who thinks the SG1 movies just weren't that good.

Er, have you looked around? It's not an unpopular opinion...


I agree though that if they are making a film they should bring back Ford, It is something I would have liked to have seen in subsequent seasons that now won't be happening.

Yeah, I'd love to see it. Still, we have to consider that with this new threat being introduced soon, and that more than likely being a part of the upcoming telefilm's plot, the complaints people have had about AoT and Continuum feeling too rushed will be understatements if they try to tack on 'suddenly Ford appears' on top of whatever they already may have planned.

Now, if that could truly find a way into things, or it's already part of the plan, anyway, yeah, hell yeah.

[Jeff O'Connor]

My apologise...It felt like two years to me :p. I really did miss the show :(

No problemo. I'm just... edgy tonight, as I think a lot of us are. Justifiably, too. I feel... bipolar -- I'm bouncing back between threads, trying to stay as positive as possible for myself and others, but sometimes sounding apathetic and testy all the same. Sigh. :(

[mattyg1987]

If they want Atlantis movies to succeed, they shouldn't do what they did with Ark of Truth by wrapping upo storylines. They should create a standalone which is written well, very entertaining and that can get good dvd sales. They should have the movie end with Atlantis either being destroyed or returning to earth, this way they can have the cast from both shows appear in future movie releases.

[globex]

No problemo. I'm just... edgy tonight, as I think a lot of us are. Justifiably, too. I feel... bipolar -- I'm bouncing back between threads, trying to stay as positive as possible for myself and others, but sometimes sounding apathetic and testy all the same. Sigh. :(

That's fine dude ;). I feel the same way(as does everyone else who is an SGA fan). As we should. Its simply withdrawal syndrome. Its inevitable conclusion. Some people are going to(I know I am once the series is over).

[Jeff O'Connor]

That's fine dude ;). I feel the same way(as does everyone else who is an SGA fan). As we should. Its simply withdrawal syndrome. Its inevitable conclusion. Some people are going to(I know I am once the series is over).

Oh, yeah. :sheppard::weir::mckay::teyla::ronan::ford::beckett:

[grif]

i think they can wrap this show up in at least 3 movies.
1 for season finale and whatever else.
2 for wraith and whatever else
3 for whatever else and the destruction of atlantis or atlantis comes to the milkeyway galaxy so it wont be destroyed. cause that is the only way it can end. it is all about the city.

[Drax]

It's funny that some people are such SG-1 fanboys that they have no concept or understanding of what made the original movie such an entertaining hit in 1994.

[Jeff O'Connor]

It's funny that some people are such SG-1 fanboys that they have no concept or understanding of what made the original movie such an entertaining hit in 1994.

Yeah, hilarious. Because that's exactly what's happening here, with me.

If it's such a laughing matter, care to share the joke? I'm not an SG-1 fanboy. I watched the movie and thought it wasn't all that great. I also watched plenty of subpar SG-1 episodes.

[Oma Yksilo]

At least we are been given a 120 minute movie to finish it up - 90mins for the first batch of SG-1 movies wasn't long enough.

[Killdeer]

At least we are been given a 120 minute movie to finish it up - 90mins for the first batch of SG-1 movies wasn't long enough.

They said a two-hour movie, but I don't think that translates to a literal 120 minutes - as I recall, the SG-1 movies were both described as two-hour movies in the beginning. I think what it is is that a two-hour TV movie, without commercials, boils down to about 90 minutes - basically a double-length episode. I don't expect this one to be any different, but I'd be happy to be surprised.

I still personally would prefer the miniseries route, like Peacekeeper Wars for Farscape.

[metabog]

I don't know. I was very disappointed at the SG-1 movies...

GET NEW WRITERS.

[Fenrir Foxz]

I still personally would prefer the miniseries route, like Peacekeeper Wars for Farscape.

That would be a great way to conclude SGA, I really enjoyed 'Peacekeeper Wars'.

[SGFerrit]

Hopefully this thread can be about the Atlantis movie and not about the cancellation or MGM/SciFi bashing...

I expect this is the 'Project Twilight' that Joe M has been going on about, I expect the cast and crew have known this wascoming for a while now. I'm sad Atlantis has been canclled, however, I can't wait to see this movie. Straight off the bat it is going to be 2 hours long (unless that includes ads:s) so it should be longer than the SG-1 movies, which is good. Hopefully they'll get a juicy budget, Continuum sized or bigger. I think, from what has been said aout the 100th episode, it will be epic, and I expect with this being the follow on it will be epic too. I can't wait to see it:)

Plus, from what people are saying, thiswon't be the only Atlantis movie. Maybe they could do a movie where the 'Daedalu Variation' aliens attack our universe? Or a movie about the 'Lost Tribe' race?

[SGFerrit]

I don't know. I was very disappointed at the SG-1 movies...

GET NEW WRITERS.

I wasn't...

And Joe and Paul aren't Rob and Brad, so expect this to be different. In a good or bad way I don't know, but the only way to find out is to watch.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I wanted AoT to be more in the style of PKW format-wise, too, but I don't think TPTB really want more than two-hour pieces, from the looks of it.

With the announcement that at least the first SGA movie is going to be aired on Sci-Fi as a conclusion, I really, really don't think it'll be a true two hours.

[raysood]

since atlantis has no main storyline, what could they possibley do for a movie besides more random episodes of some sort of virus or how about "we are introducing a powerful new enemy and kicking out regular cast members to bring in new ones that fans dont like to keep the show fresh".

i liked aot, it wasn't brilliant but i liked it because it brings closure. continuum on the otherhand was just like a regular episode that at the end of it says a big f u to all the viewers. i hate it when they have the "reset" button. i think the writers to create some sort of decent story arc with a few movies that will fix the mess they created, and yes, bring back ford - whether he dies or lives, the viewers want some sort of closure. and also, dont recycle old crappy enemies like the replicators or whatever. i think the story for the movies should be concerned with the wraith because they were the original bad guys. they were tough at first but then they became wimps.

[SGFerrit]

I wanted AoT to be more in the style of PKW format-wise, too, but I don't think TPTB really want more than two-hour pieces, from the looks of it.

With the announcement that at least the first SGA movie is going to be aired on Sci-Fi as a conclusion, I really, really don't think it'll be a true two hours.

Yep, it'll probably just be the equivalent of a two-part episode. However, 'Rising' showed how good that can be. Does anyone know the budget for 'Rising'?

[Jeff O'Connor]

Yep, it'll probably just be the equivalent of a two-part episode. However, 'Rising' showed how good that can be. Does anyone know the budget for 'Rising'?

http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/s1/101.shtml

$5 million, from the looks of it.

[SGFerrit]

Thanks Jeff:)

Do we think this movie will have a biger budget? Both AoT and Continuum got $7,000,000 each, but I'm still unsure of how this all works? Will it be like another DVD movie, just airing on SciFi first?

I guess we'll find out more in the coming days.

Who do we tink culd guest star? If Amanda Tapping is indeed in the 100th episode then I think they might try and ge her in the movie too, also I hope Chris Heyerdahl is in it as Todd.

[Jeff O'Connor]

You know, I'm not sure at all. I think it will probably have something pretty much identical to AoT and Continuum, personally, if not a slight bit less. Don't ask me why, but that's my gut feeling on this one. (Sometimes those are wrong, though. Hopefully it's way off, eh?)

Either way, I think if $5 million could do what it did, and in '04, then in '08-'09, that same $5 million can do even more. The telefilm ought to be great in that regard.

Now, concerning the nature of the piece, I don't think anyone can say for sure, 100% of the way, yet. But I would bet good money it's as you've said it. The difference between the SGA 'finale' and the SG-1 wrap-up film and then Continuum is that SGA's actually going to get Sci-Fi Channel to air it, whereas the SG-1 continuations haven't gotten that (as of yet.) Those two are better-classified as 'DVD continuations of the series', whereas this is a 'telefilm' -- it's coming out on TV in a film-esque format.

For that matter, with as well as Stargate does DVD-wise, it's a safe assurance that it'd the be released in such a format. So this is a telefilm whereas the other two are direct-to-DVD films, but both are kind of... both.

[SGFerrit]

Yeah, sounds about right:)

Hopefully MGM's press release will provide us with more info.

[RedvsBlue]

I don't see how non Stargate fans will be able to enjoy these "finish up story line movies". Michael & the Wraith still need to be taken care of but that can be done in one movie altogether but the non fans wont get it in the slightest

[Jeff O'Connor]

I don't see how non Stargate fans will be able to enjoy these "finish up story line movies". Michael & the Wraith still need to be taken care of but that can be done in one movie altogether but the non fans wont get it in the slightest

They aren't for non-fans. The fact that they're making these things shows that there are enough fans that the market is good enough for it.

[kymeric]

Movie role call. We still need to see:

*Resolution of the s5 cliffhanger
*The Wraith
*Michael
*The new bad guys in the midseason
*another replicator/wier story, think Torri would come back for a film? o.O
*The DV aliens
*a big genii or travellers story
*and all 20 scripts written for season 6 refurbed for a half dozen stories

Thats a minum of 8 atlantis films, and as many as 27 :D

Heck if we know SGUs only gonna last 5 seasons they should plant some stories for huge film payoffs after the tvshow runs it course. I hope SG1 does the same with their library of stories.

[SGFerrit]

Movie role call. We still need to see:

[QUOTE=kymeric;8794892]*Resolution of the s5 cliffhanger
*The Wraith

I expect these two will be one and the same:D

[QUOTE=kymeric;8794892]*Michael

I think his story will likely be tied up in season 5.


*The new bad guys in the midseason

Indeed:S


*another replicator/wier story, think Torri would come back for a film? o.O

I Hope so. It would certainly be nice. I would also like to see Michelle Morgan at least once more, but that doesn't HAVE to mean Weir.


*The DV aliens

Like I said before, could be interesting...


*a big genii or travellers story

Hmm... I think these would be better suited as being part of a bigger story.


*and all 20 scripts written for season 6 refurbed for a half dozen stories

:D

[metabog]

I'm just sad we won't be seeing any more McKay... I hope Universe will have likeable characters. I really liked every character on atlantis.

[Kris_x-303]

Think about the costing ... We already know that in SG Universe the sets are limited to the 2 Ancient ships, which, like the SGC's Gateroom or Atlantis' Control Room, can be used over and over and over again. Any planets, etc. can be done on blue screen (look at Sanctuary) saving a whole pile of money - let's hope it's used to fund more SG-1 + SGA movies.

Im not sure where i heard it, either on here or on another site SGU is going to be roughly 50% or 60% animated/blue screened, not sure where i saw it though :(

[unluckynumber11]

Movie role call. We still need to see:

*Resolution of the s5 cliffhanger
*The Wraith
*Michael
*The new bad guys in the midseason
*another replicator/wier story, think Torri would come back for a film? o.O
*The DV aliens
*a big genii or travellers story
*and all 20 scripts written for season 6 refurbed for a half dozen stories

Thats a minum of 8 atlantis films, and as many as 27 :D

Heck if we know SGUs only gonna last 5 seasons they should plant some stories for huge film payoffs after the tvshow runs it course. I hope SG1 does the same with their library of stories.

if they do that, this will be the second stargate series finale movie with replicators:S
but at least they weren't entirely resoved in this series and left a door open for them not like AoT where they pulled them out of nowhere.

[Pic]

I'm just sad we won't be seeing any more McKay... I hope Universe will have likeable characters. I really liked every character on atlantis.

Agreed, I like them all.
present tense... still have s5 to watch ;)

[jenks]

I'm just wondering what sort of budget there'll be, higher or lower then the SG-1 movies? Or perhaps the same...


It's funny that some people are such SG-1 fanboys that they have no concept or understanding of what made the original movie such an entertaining hit in 1994.

You seem to have a poor memory, Stargate was never a hit. It's widely agreed that it was Devlin and Emmerich's best work, but then it's also widely agreed that they're both hacks. The original movie was largely forgettable, and the franchise would be nothing without the series.

[Jumper_One]

I'm just wondering what sort of budget there'll be, higher or lower then the SG-1 movies? Or perhaps the same...

probably lower since it's supposed to be a tv-movie

[Lewisco]

In my opinion, Weir and Ford should be in the movie. As well as Beckett. A couplw SG-1 faces would be nice, preferably Jackson and O'Neill. However, i think the movie needs some true visual effects. To end the series in style. I think Atlantis has some great movie potential. I'll miss it though, Shepphard and McKay espcially, they were such great characters. I digress. I think the movie will need some space fights in it, and perhaps a fight in atlantis itself which somehow lends itself to the team ending up in a previously unexplored section of the city? and some amazing secret of the ancients is revealed. I'd like to see some touching team moments too.

once the series finale has aired i think i'll have a better idea as to what i think should be in the movie

[Jeff O'Connor]

From the sounds of it, this telefilm will be the 'Season Finale' more than 'Enemy At The Gate'. Not in the literal business sense, of course, but it's a direct continuation from 5x20; it's like EATG is Part I of III or something, depending on how this goes down.

Or not really 'Season Finale'; more like, 'DTV Premiere' or... something. Regardless, I've woken up stoked for it. My sadness over the weekly edition's cancellation still stings, but I'm getting over it, slowly but surely, I think.

[Ugly Pig]

I'm expecting another miraculous magical superweapon, like ark or grail...

Yes, and I'm expecting you to keep b*tching about it every opportunity you get until the end of time.


1. The reason why the SG-1 movies did so well was because, there was a huge gap between the movies and the ending of the series. More than two years from memory.
About a year, actually. And I just don't buy that people watched it only because it's been so long since the series ended (and it wasn't even that long). People watched the movies because they wanted to watch the movies. Plain and simple.


Stargate AOT was given 7.2 and Continium was give 7.5. Compared to SG-1 as a series thats very low for an awesome series.
No, that's actually pretty good. Certainly it's not "very low", any way you slice it.


3. People had the impression that if we were to buy the movies it would allow continuation of the series. We still don't know whether the 3rd movie will be the last.
No, but we pretty much know we're getting that third movie. So it was true.

[Killdeer]

As the movie apparently will be the wrapup for our own Atlantis team, I personally would rather not have any SG-1 characters at all (and frankly, that includes Carter, although I'm sure that's a slim hope at best). I want it to be firmly focused on our own team, Sheppard, Rodney, Teyla, and Ronon. Bringing anyone else in, especially characters like O'Neill and Daniel, would split the focus. There were no Atlantis characters in AoT or Continuum after all.

[Reiko]

» Include Carson and Elizabeth with minimal Keller involvement.

[Jumper_One]

As the movie apparently will be the wrapup for our own Atlantis team, I personally would rather not have any SG-1 characters at all (and frankly, that includes Carter, although I'm sure that's a slim hope at best). I want it to be firmly focused on our own team, Sheppard, Rodney, Teyla, and Ronon. Bringing anyone else in, especially characters like O'Neill and Daniel, would split the focus. There were no Atlantis characters in AoT or Continuum after all.

I agree the movie is about Atlantis, not SG-1. however I'm not sure about Sam, it'll probably depend on her part in the season finale. she may appear if her role is vital to the main story. either way I'm looking forward to the tv-movie

[topaz_bean]

ahhh somewhere cheaper? =)

The BBC shoots a lot of stuff in Romania because of cheap production costs, but then travelling from the US you've obviously got a logistical nightmare...plus a cast and crew not wanting to spend at least half their year in Romania. In conclusion, not gonna happen. It's Canada or nowhere.

The key thing for me, and what I loved about the earlier seasons, is that they treat Atlantis as a character in its own right. Not only is it a huge, unpredictable place with its own quirks and foibles, personality, even, but it's full of people all serving vital functions because if something goes wrong, they have nowhere else to turn, nowhere else to go. Everyone has to muck in and contribute. That sense of interdependence gave the show a really nice tone, and their isolation gave it a sense of urgency. It was why Kavanaugh caused such great friction, because if someone didn't play their part, it really would be disastrous. If they really ramp that up, I think the film will do just fine.

[Reiko]

The BBC shoots a lot of stuff in Romania because of cheap production costs, but then travelling from the US you've obviously got a logistical nightmare...plus a cast and crew not wanting to spend at least half their year in Romania. In conclusion, not gonna happen. It's Canada or nowhere.

» Well, off that point, you always have Mexico. :cool:

[Killdeer]

I don't mind Keller, as long as she's not front and center. And I want Woolsey too, actually. (Love Woolsey :))

I wouldn't mind Carson and Elizabeth being worked in somehow though, if it's done right.

DON'T want Carter. Or Daniel. Or Jack. This is an Atlantis movie. I didn't see Sheppard or Rodney popping up in AoT or Continuum. That's not to say I wouldn't mind a crossover movie sometime in the future, with the right characters. Just not this one. This one should be our wrapup and our goodbye to our team - the Atlantis team. :(

[topaz_bean]

» Well, off that point, you always have Mexico. :cool:

Well, you know, move the city to a planet full of cactuses...

Okay, don't get offended if you're from mexico and they don't have cactuses...I just made that up...I'm an ignorant Brit that knows nothing about America...by which I mean North and South...I am not suggesting that Mexico is part of the US...I'll shut up...

[Killdeer]

From Joe's blog tonight regarding the movie: (spoilered due to some information about the last episode)


Episode 20, Enemy at the Gate, will mark our 100th episode and, contrary to online speculation, we will not be ending things with a cliffhanger. Regardless of whether we got the pick-up or not, we had always planned a clean conclusion to our 100th episode, one that would hopefully leave fans satisfied yet eager for more. And that “more” will come in the form of the Stargate Atlantis movie…

About a month ago, with so much uncertainty about the future of the series, Rob Cooper pitched out the idea of shooting the SGA movie at the end of this season. His thinking was that if the series did end, we would have a movie in hand. If, however, the series was picked up, the “SGA movie” (codenamed Project Twilight) would simply become the opening two episodes of the show’s sixth season. Alas, this notion never got past the consideration stage and, as a result, we won’t be rolling right into it as planned. On the bright side, however, the network has greenlit the movie and we do have a terrific idea in mind. Obviously, I can’t say much about it at this point but suffice it to say that it should include the entire cast in addition to a certain gaunt and pallid flowing-locked guest star. And, if it proves anywhere as successful as the first two SG-1 direct-to-video features, you can be assured that this will be the first in a long, long line of Stargate Atlantis movies.

I must be losing it, because I could have sworn that Joe said flat out several times that the last episode WAS a cliffhanger. Oh well. In any case, lest we get derailed into an off-topic coversation, that does change things for the movie considerably.



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/august-21-2008-all-good-things/

[jenks]

"[...]gaunt and pallid flowing-locked guest star."

???

[Jumper_One]

"[...]gaunt and pallid flowing-locked guest star."

???

Todd?

[jenks]

Ah, yeah you're probably right.

[Jumper_One]

Ah, yeah you're probably right.

some people think it's Weir but that's pretty unlikely imo, same for Carson. I certainly expect him to appear in the movie, he just isn't the guest star imo

[Killdeer]

some people think it's Weir but that's pretty unlikely imo, same for Carson. I certainly expect him to appear in the movie, he just isn't the guest star imo

Well, it did cross my mind that it could be the frozen FRANWeir, but my first thought was that it's most likely Todd.

I can't figure out how Carson could fit into that description - he's definitely not "flowing-locked." :D Not to rule him out of the movie, as you said, but I think Todd is our most likely candidate for this particular guest star.

[jenks]

some people think it's Weir but that's pretty unlikely imo, same for Carson. I certainly expect him to appear in the movie, he just isn't the guest star imo

That's what I though when I read gaunt, but I doubt Joe would use that word to describe her.

[Jumper_One]

Well, it did cross my mind that it could be the frozen FRANWeir,

mine too but I think the show has moved on, they can't keep bringing her/it back in movies


but my first thought was that it's most likely Todd.

I can't figure out how Carson could fit into that description - he's definitely not "flowing-locked." :D Not to rule him out of the movie, as you said,

Joe said

Obviously, I can’t say much about it at this point but suffice it to say that it should include the entire cast in addition to a certain gaunt and pallid flowing-locked guest star.

the entire cast = :sheppard::mckay::ronan::teyla: :beckett: Keller Woolsey + Chuck, Lorne(?)... did I forget someone?


but I think Todd is our most likely candidate for this particular guest star.

:indeed:

[jelgate]

When I hear entire cast, I assume the main characters, not the recurring

[Jeff O'Connor]

Definitely going with Todd on that one. Would love for it to be Weir, all the same, though.

Would be funny if it were Ford and Joe is just horrendous as describing people.

"What do you mean? Ford is plenty pallid!"

[Rac80]

The BBC shoots a lot of stuff in Romania because of cheap production costs, but then travelling from the US you've obviously got a logistical nightmare...plus a cast and crew not wanting to spend at least half their year in Romania. In conclusion, not gonna happen. It's Canada or nowhere.

The key thing for me, and what I loved about the earlier seasons, is that they treat Atlantis as a character in its own right. Not only is it a huge, unpredictable place with its own quirks and foibles, personality, even, but it's full of people all serving vital functions because if something goes wrong, they have nowhere else to turn, nowhere else to go. Everyone has to muck in and contribute. That sense of interdependence gave the show a really nice tone, and their isolation gave it a sense of urgency. It was why Kavanaugh caused such great friction, because if someone didn't play their part, it really would be disastrous. If they really ramp that up, I think the film will do just fine.

i agree, I want to see more of the city! initially it had almost a "personality", but that was forgotten. We need a city based movie.
I want the regular cast + todd. Let weir, beckett and ford RIP!!!!!! I want John, Teyla, Ronon, (minimal rodney...pleeeeeeeeeeeeease no whining!) Jennifer, & woolsey. Give us some Radek, Lorne, todd, and Caldwell! And then I'll be happy!

[rarocks24]

Because the scripts were written, and locations booked, long before they knew they'd been canceled.

Pretty sure Joe M. said that the 100th episode was NOT going to be a cliffhanger.

[rarocks24]

Todd?

Todd isn't very gaunt, and he's certainly not charmless or ill, that we know of, so...

[txTart]

I wouldn't have a problem with the inclusion of Sam in a movie. I loved her chemistry with Sheppard. But I would hope the plot would be team-centered -- Sheppard, McKay, Teyla and Ronon. Period. Woolsey and Keller and Carson would have to be there, I guess, and Lorne and Zelenka, of course, but I would hope that the McKay/Keller stuff would be minimal, and please, God, no Larrin.

[jenks]

Todd isn't very gaunt, and he's certainly not charmless or ill, that we know of, so...

Who said anything about charmless or ill?

[jenks]

probably lower since it's supposed to be a tv-movie

Really? I thought it would be higher since both Sci Fi and MGM would be paying for it...

[Jumper_One]

When I hear entire cast, I assume the main characters, not the recurring

I think the entire cast includes certain recurring characters like Lorne, Zelenka, Beckett, Chuck etc


Todd isn't very gaunt, and he's certainly not charmless or ill, that we know of, so...

so what do you think?


I wouldn't have a problem with the inclusion of Sam in a movie. I loved her chemistry with Sheppard. But I would hope the plot would be team-centered -- Sheppard, McKay, Teyla and Ronon. Period. Woolsey and Keller and Carson would have to be there, I guess, and Lorne and Zelenka, of course, but I would hope that the McKay/Keller stuff would be minimal, and please, God, no Larrin.

well said ;)


Really? I thought it would be higher since both Sci Fi and MGM would be paying for it...

hm IDK I guess it's possible

[McgillionFan]

It really sucks that they've cancelled. I honestly though SGA was going to go on for much much longer. But now...obviously not :(.

If they make a movie i really hope Carson is in it. They gotta have that sweethearted Scot :beckett:.

I'm not sure what they're gonna have for a movie i have a feeling that :weir: might be in it...i don't know why. lol Well whatever happens in the movie i hope they make up for the loss of a season 6 and make a good movie like they've done with SG-1 Ark of Truth and Contiuum. Awsome Movies especailly Ark of Truth that was awsome.

What is it with MGM and canceling SG. They canceled SG-1 :Allience the game. When it was almost ready for release. Again....a real shame :(

Well...no matter what happens i'll always stick by SG.

[EvenstarSRV]

That would be a great way to conclude SGA, I really enjoyed 'Peacekeeper Wars'.

I loved the Peacekeeper Wars too. It's what got me into Farscape, strangely enough, even though I understood only a fraction of what was going on. :cool:



Who do we tink culd guest star? If Amanda Tapping is indeed in the 100th episode then I think they might try and ge her in the movie too, also I hope Chris Heyerdahl is in it as Todd.

I'd love to see AT in the movie, though in a supporting role rather than a lead role. She was a SGA regular for a year so I consider her to be more part of the Atlantis cast than any other SG-1 actor, but I think the focus should still be on the main Atlantis team. :sheppard: :mckay: :ronan: :teyla: :beckett: :weir: :ford:

[silly sally]

If the movie is shot next year I don't think AT would be in it; she's already in Brad's movie and will film for Sanctuary...

[EvenstarSRV]

If the movie is shot next year I don't think AT would be in it; she's already in Brad's movie and will film for Sanctuary...

True, but if they end up filming the SG-1 and SGA movies at the same time she could bounce between sets like she did for season 4 and the first 2 SG-1 films, especially if her role in the SGA movie is supporting rather than as a lead.

But realistically it is a long shot and I'm probably just being delusionally hopeful. :o

[Falcon 304]

I would love for this movie to be the first of a two parter. AoT had two season to go off of, but this movie will likely be based from the back half of this season. Because they ARE going to do multiple Atlantis movies, I think this would best for flow, and story. Though, I'm sure this won't be the case. :(

[LadyBozi]

I vote we bring back Weir! =D lol.

[Ruined_puzzle]

I vote we bring back Weir! =D lol.

I support this comment. :D

[Ltcolshepjumper]

Three things.
One, this needs to SURPASS AoT, Continuum, and EVERY episode of SGA ever made to be successful
Two, it needs to hopefully include all of the main SGA characters who are still alive (Weir, Beckett, Shep, Woolsey, Keller, Ronon, Teyla, Mckay, Lorne, Zelenka)
Three, it needs to have something to do with the Ancients and Wraith, preferably something to do with their war, as we really don't know that much about it, besides the fact that the Wraith won.

[Jumper_One]

Three things.
One, this needs to SURPASS AoT, Continuum, and EVERY episode of SGA ever made to be successful

why does it need to surpass the other movies?


Two, it needs to hopefully include all of the main SGA characters who are still alive (Weir, Beckett, Shep, Woolsey, Keller, Ronon, Teyla, Mckay, Lorne, Zelenka)

I don't expect to see Weir again, especially if as BW said the movie's supposed to be more accessible to new viewers. it wouldn't make sense to bring back certain characters imo


Three, it needs to have something to do with the Ancients and Wraith, preferably something to do with their war, as we really don't know that much about it, besides the fact that the Wraith won.

IDK about that. Brad said...

GW: Well, is there anything you can tell us at this stage about the Atlantis movie? Is it going to be resolving dangling storylines like Michael and the Wraith, and these new villains that are about to be introduced?

BW: No -- I can say only that it will be a movie that will be more accessible to new viewers than something that is trying to resolve dangling threads. It will be, hopefully, more of a stand-alone story
http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/all_good_things_...3.shtml

they'll probably mention the Ancients and their war but everything else might be too much for new viewers

[Briangate78]

With the current success of Atlantis, It will likely be more than one movie. So if we get a few of these then maybe the trade-off won't be so bad. Still, I really wanted a 6th season of Atlantis. I just hope this doesn't bite MGM back in the Ass for this bold move.

[rarocks24]

Who said anything about charmless or ill?

Hmm, sorry, read that wrong. Still, Todd's not very skinny. Tall yes. He's also not very pale, but green. :P

Unless Infection sets the storyline up for Todd. :P

[Reiko]

I vote we bring back Weir! =D lol.

» I second this movement :D


Two, it needs to hopefully include all of the main SGA characters who are still alive (Weir, Beckett, Shep, Woolsey, Keller, Ronon, Teyla, Mckay, Lorne, Zelenka)

» I have to say no. Again like I have stated before it should be surrounding the original Atlantis family -- since it IS a stand-alone -- and so Keller and Woolsey for me would be best kept to a minimum. :o

[Briangate78]

» I second this movement :D



» I have to say no. Again like I have stated before it should be surrounding the original Atlantis family -- since it IS a stand-alone -- and so Keller and Woolsey for me would be best kept to a minimum. :o

Well beckett is almost a gurantee. It will be tough to get Weir/Torri back though. But a movie she might consider.

[Prior_of_the_Ori]

Really off the top of my head I think there needs to be a movie that deals with Michael and his Hybrids and another movie to deal with the Wraith. After that there can be stand off movies... perhaps one with the DV aliens.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I want to wait until after 'The Prodigal' airs to determine how much influence Michael should have on things, for obvious reasons. But in an ideal world, he'd be very present. (And thusly, very alive, still.)

[the fifth man]

With the current success of Atlantis, It will likely be more than one movie. So if we get a few of these then maybe the trade-off won't be so bad. Still, I really wanted a 6th season of Atlantis. I just hope this doesn't bite MGM back in the Ass for this bold move.

I hope it doesn't bite MGM either.

As for the Atlantis movies, I hope we get several. And, and few more SG-1 movies too.;)

[Atlantis1]

The end for me is the end of the series. I watched the 2 SG-1 movies and was very disappointed. I don't want an SGA movie. I want to remember it for the joy I got from the series. :(

[Jeff O'Connor]

I third the non-biting bit, for multiple tidbits of reasons.

[Daniel Jackson]

The end for me is the end of the series. I watched the 2 SG-1 movies and was very disappointed. I don't want an SGA movie. I want to remember it for the joy I got from the series. :(
They haven't made the movie, and you're already bashing it? :rolleyes:

[Shan Bruce Lee]

According to recent news there's a 2 hour Atlantis movie in the works. Thoughts? Expectations?

Discuss.

My only expectation is that it's gonna be awesome

[Platschu]

According to recent news there's a 2 hour Atlantis movie in the works. Thoughts? Expectations?

Discuss.

The DVD movie will be our new feeding ground... :wraithqueen17:

[Bytor]

I think the movie will be completely awesome and epic. Unfortunately I think it will likely not sell nearly as well as SG1 movies.... to the point of proving to be only 1 movie and not a series of movies.

[jenks]

I think the movie will be completely awesome and epic. Unfortunately I think it will likely not sell nearly as well as SG1 movies.... to the point of proving to be only 1 movie and not a series of movies.

Ah, but remember the Atlantis movie will likely be funded by both Sci Fi and MGM, so it probably won't need to do as well as the SG-1 movies anyway...

[Shan Bruce Lee]

I think it'll do good. They're airing it on SciFi first right?

[Jumper_One]

I think it'll do good. They're airing it on SciFi first right?

yup that's the plan

[akren]

I am looking forward to the new SGA movie (I do hope they reference the past 5 seasons & tie up at least some of the loose ends whilst leaving stuff open. . .like finally getting 3 ZPM's & kicking the living **** out of Big Bads).

Having Atlantis return to Earth & exposing the SGC would also be interesting bonuses, if not a major turning point for the entire franchise. Looking forward to it, hopeful about SGU & saying BRING IT ON to future SG-1/SGA movies! :D

[david2708]

Knowing that Mullie & Malozzi are penning it ensures it will scale the dizzying heights of mediocrity, unfortunately.

[Dimbo_Sama]

They haven't made the movie, and you're already bashing it? :rolleyes:

Why not? SGU isn't even out yet and people have been bashing that solid for a week...


...that came out wrong...

[Continuum]

It's a shame that Atlantis is ending after this season. I was kind of hoping Woolsey would have gotten a chance as Expedition leader for at least two seasons. I hope w'll see him on the SGA movies.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I'm sure we will. Like Landry, I believe Woolsey will be the future 'perpetual' leader that will, depending on how long the SG-1 and Atlantis telefilms are churned out, respectively, perhaps ultimately last even longer chronologically than Hammond and Weir.

Though Weir will probably always have more SGA hours with her at command, and besting Hammond in that regard would be nigh-impossible, in terms of how many years pass with Landry at the helm and Woolsey on the other end, I think they could outdo their predecessors one day.

Still, there's no substitute for having 20 hours a year with them; that really helps flesh out a character more than a series of telefilms ever could. But yeah, I don't see Woolsey going anywhere. Robert Picardo was fairly excited and energetic about joining Stargate Atlantis, so I predict he'd certainly at least stick around for continuations.

If anything, I feel bad for him. So eager and then one season and maybe two to four hours yearly after that.

[PG15]

About those supporting characters...


NaniWahine writes: “2) Are Carson, Lorne and Zelenka expected to make an appearance in the SGA film?”

Answers: 2) Too early to tell.



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/august-25-2008-the-church-of-dead-girls-the-mailbag-and-a-walk-through-the-production-office/

[Infinite-Possibilities]

I hope they don't go around killing memorable recurring characters like no tomorrow. Especially in an unfitting manner.
I certainly hope Todd ultimately gets a more fitting finale than Baal apparently did.

[Ikaros]

According to recent news there's a 2 hour Atlantis movie in the works. Thoughts? Expectations?

Discuss.

I'll just wait and see ;/ i just hope it's not something they're throwing at us just to take easy the fact that they quit on Atlantis.
For me they have to make 2-3 movies a year.... for 10 years just to make it right again...

[kymeric]

I think the real question is if the Wraith should be defeated in the first movie and future stories go beyond them into the rest of pegasus, or should the wraith always be there till the big spectactular finish?

[jenks]

The first movie should deal with the defeat of the Wraith (IMO), but it won't. They're trying to start a franchise of stand alones, but I think people will just get bored if there's no promise of a conclusion in sight. They should wrap up the hanging storylines first and then start with the stand alones IMO.

[Infinite-Possibilities]

In my view the Wraith should not be defeated at all. At least not permanently. But I'd like to see a Wrath/Michael/Atlantis conflict as the centrepoint of the film.

[Jeff O'Connor]

The first movie should deal with the defeat of the Wraith (IMO), but it won't. They're trying to start a franchise of stand alones, but I think people will just get bored if there's no promise of a conclusion in sight. They should wrap up the hanging storylines first and then start with the stand alones IMO.

Hear, hear.

[Lianne]

BW: No -- I can say only that it will be a movie that will be more accessible to new viewers than something that is trying to resolve dangling threads. It will be, hopefully, more of a stand-alone story


Filler movie? I wish they would use their logic and resolve the the dangling thread before they move on to new story-line. Do we really need multiple no-end-aka-cliffhanger stories happening at the same time?:rolleyes:

[jenks]

At what point did people start using stand alone and filler as synonyms? Because they're not.

[2ndgenerationalteran]

atlantis is known for insane space battles, i want to see a great space battle and a hell of a lot of skirmishes or a few really great ones with out of the box thinking that makes us go "damn that was ****ing clever!" i wouldnt mind giving ideas for that, bringing those ships we lost back and Ford and Todd if they didnt kill him off already.

[Ikaros]

Someone in another thread mentioned something about mini serries instead of movies. I find the idea amazing. Less but biger episodes instead of "look like s..t " movies like the ones they make for SG1.
It would be great and it might cost them the same. It would also be better for the story arcs this way .

[Madwelshboy]

From Joe's blog:-
Ben writes: “And also where do we sit in terms of getting another SG1 movie?”

Answer: If all goes as planned, we should be filming both the SGA movie and the third SG-1 around the same time next year.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/january-31-2008-the-blue-screen-of-death-a-horrific-crime-and-the-likely-suspects-the-weird-food-purchase-of-the-day-guest-edition/

Sounds like some good news!! Hopefully we will get some soolid info soon.

[EvenstarSRV]

The first movie should deal with the defeat of the Wraith (IMO), but it won't. They're trying to start a franchise of stand alones, but I think people will just get bored if there's no promise of a conclusion in sight. They should wrap up the hanging storylines first and then start with the stand alones IMO.

I have a feeling the Wraith and Michael storylines will be mostly wrapped up by the season 5 finale Enemy at the Gate, so the first Atlantis movie can be more of a stand-alone like Continuum, instead of a 'finishing a storyline' type movie like Ark of Truth.

[_Famrir_]

i hpe they bring back ford

[caesar_sg1]

I have a feeling the Wraith and Michael storylines will be mostly wrapped up by the season 5 finale Enemy at the Gate, so the first Atlantis movie can be more of a stand-alone like Continuum, instead of a 'finishing a storyline' type movie like Ark of Truth.

but continuum is kind of a finisher because they are finishing up what happened to baal and all his clones and how he tried to get out of it.
kind of


it would be a whole lot nicer if mgm hadnt screwed and cancelled the show out of the blue

[EvenstarSRV]

but continuum is kind of a finisher because they are finishing up what happened to baal and all his clones and how he tried to get out of it.
kind of

Continuum did wrap up Baal's storyline, but I didn't feel that his defeat was as much the focus of the story as the end of the Ori were in Ark of Truth (despite those Replicators getting the way :cool:). So I would consider Continuum to be much more of a standalone movie than Ark of Truth.

I'd like to see the Wraith storyline mostly finished by the season 5 finale, but have the consequences of defeating the Wraith be an important part of the first Atlantis movie. So it could be a 'stand-alone' movie, but it would still continue storylines from the series.



it would be a whole lot nicer if mgm hadnt screwed and cancelled the show out of the blue

Yeah, I personally would rather have a SGA season 6 then a SGA movie. But I enjoyed both Ark of Truth and Continuum, so I'm optimistic about also liking the first Atlantis movie.

[PG15]

Small update:


Anais33 a ecrit: “1)Pensez vous que dans le film sur sga, il sera possible de voir des personne disparu dans la série comme Weir ou Ford?”

Responses: 1) Probablement pas.

Translation: It’s unlikely we’ll see Weir or Ford in the Atlantis movie.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/september-1-2008-corn-soup-crispy-brains-and-mailbag/

[jenks]

I have a feeling the Wraith and Michael storylines will be mostly wrapped up by the season 5 finale Enemy at the Gate, so the first Atlantis movie can be more of a stand-alone like Continuum, instead of a 'finishing a storyline' type movie like Ark of Truth.

The Michael arc might be, but Joe Mallozzi has said the Wraith will still be around after the series end.

[Ripple in Space]

At what point did people start using stand alone and filler as synonyms? Because they're not.

I agree with you in this case, but since RDA left the franchise, standalones have often equaled filler. I think even tptb have used similar terminology when describing "cheap" (to produce) episodes and/or use of the B-crew.

In SG-1 S1-7 I loved the standalones, that's what made the show great. SG-1 S8-10, some of the standalones were terrible in every sense, imo. Think about Atlantis' Lucius Lavin standalones...

[Trig]

Why can they not just find someway to put the wraith back to sleep...

[SGAtlantisP60]

can't wait till it comes out!

[Killdeer]

Solutions has posted an exclusive Q&A with Joe Mallozzi here:
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604

He had this new information about the movie:

10. How likely are crossovers from SG-1 in the first SGA movie?

It’s very possible that we’ll have, at the very least, limited crossover. Given the story we’ve been spinning, it would make sense to see Carter, Daniel, and Teal’c pay Atlantis a visit.

Personally, this is the worst news I've heard since the cancellation. I was hoping for the first movie anyway our cast would have it all to themselves. SG-1 didn't have to share either of their movies, and I'd be willing to make a bet that there won't be any Atlantis cast in the third SG-1 movie either. So why do we have to have almost all of SG-1 in our movie? Carter alone would be bad enough, but I was preparing myself for that. But all three of them? :( I wanted this movie to be just for our guys. :(

*very very very discouraged about this*

[Bytor]

Solutions has posted an exclusive Q&A with Joe Mallozzi here:
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604

He had this new information about the movie:


Personally, this is the worst news I've heard since the cancellation. I was hoping for the first movie anyway our cast would have it all to themselves. SG-1 didn't have to share either of their movies, and I'd be willing to make a bet that there won't be any Atlantis cast in the third SG-1 movie either. So why do we have to have almost all of SG-1 in our movie? Carter alone would be bad enough, but I was preparing myself for that. But all three of them? :( I wanted this movie to be just for our guys. :(

*very very very discouraged about this*

Do you just not like SG1 and its characters? They are all great characters in my opinion... the more great characters in a movie the better.

[Killdeer]

Do you just not like SG1 and its characters? They are all great characters in my opinion... the more great characters in a movie the better.

A 90 minute movie is barely going to be enough time to do our own team justice, much less deal with three extras. And no, I'm not crazy about the SG-1 characters. I watched them for 10 seasons and two movies, if I never see them again it wouldn't break my heart, and I certainly don't need to see them here. I wanted one movie with JUST the Atlantis team. I wanted the focus to be on OUR team. John, Rodney, Teyla, and Ronon.

I'd resigned myself to the cancellation, but I still had hopes for the movie. Those have all just been blown to bits. :(

My only remaining hope is that whatever part they play is very very small. Like, cameo-sized. They'll be working on their own movie around the time this one is filming, so hopefully they won't take up too much screentime. But still - I'd rather not have had them there at all. :(

[Bytor]

A 90 minute movie is barely going to be enough time to do our own team justice, much less deal with three extras. And no, I'm not crazy about the SG-1 characters. I watched them for 10 seasons and two movies, if I never see them again it wouldn't break my heart, and I certainly don't need to see them here. I wanted one movie with JUST the Atlantis team. I wanted the focus to be on OUR team. John, Rodney, Teyla, and Ronon.

I'd resigned myself to the cancellation, but I still had hopes for the movie. Those have all just been blown to bits. :(

My only remaining hope is that whatever part they play is very very small. Like, cameo-sized. They'll be working on their own movie around the time this one is filming, so hopefully they won't take up too much screentime. But still - I'd rather not have had them there at all. :(

I don't know.. I try and think of Atlantis and SG1 as one big series, I love them both. I am going to miss that that train of thought with SGU when they seperate it pretty much completely. I'd love to see an Atlantis member in an SG1 movie as well and wouldn't bicker about which character got 16 minutes screen time and which got 22 minutes.

[pilgrim soul]

I love the SG1 characters and was a big fan of the show, I knew that we would eventually get crossover movies and was perfectly happy with that but the SG1 cast have already had two movies to themselves - but Atlantis isn't even allowed one. Couldn't the SGA cast have been given their moment in the spot light without SG1 muscling in? Apparently TPTB don't trust Atlantis to stand on its own two feet even now.

[Flyboy]

Though I'm a fan of both series, I do agree that giving SG1 specific characters a major role in the Atlantis movie would be wrong.

I think Landry, Walter, Barrat, Davis etc are perfectly fair game, because they, like Colonel Ellis, are background characters that make the whole operation go round, so it's natural that they should appear in an SGA movie IF there's any earth contact, and they wouldn't HOG the movie so to speak, nor would it be SG1 muscling in, afterall if you need a character, why invent one if you can use an already existing character?

But people need to accept that Carter is now an SGA character, just as much as Ford is. Furthermore, Jack, as head of homeworld security is no longer tied to just SG1, and everything in Atlantis is a concern of his.

[pilgrim soul]

Bringing in Carter I wouldn't have to much of a problem with, same goes for the supporting characters that you've mentioned, if in the movie there are scenes at the SGC its makes sense for Walter and maybe Landry to be there you're right but, from his comment, that is not what Mallozzi is saying will happen. He's talking about Carter, Jackson and Teal'c all being in Atlantis.

[Flyboy]

Bringing in Carter I wouldn't have to much of a problem with, same goes for the supporting characters that you've mentioned, if in the movie there are scenes at the SGC its makes sense for Walter and maybe Landry to be there you're right but, from his comment, that is not what Mallozzi is saying will happen. He's talking about Carter, Jackson and Teal'c all being in Atlantis.
Indeed. And I've said that is certainly unfair.

There are however people that object to ANY SG1 character appearing in any form of Atlantis, let alone this movie, and I think that's amazingly silly if they're objecting to background characters, such as Davis, or indeed, O'Neill or Carter now. The former has most certainly transcended SG1, as he's Head of the DHWS, and the latter, as stated IS an SGA character now. But characters so deeply rooted in the SG1 show, ie Mitchell, Daniel, Vala and Teal'c, who HAVEN'T been "promoted" out of the team, would indeed be invading an SGA specific film should they appear, and whilst I think Daniel has every right to appear in the SGA movie (as he is a Stargate character, nor specifically an SG1 character), the fact he's still on the SG1 team makes it distinctly inappropriate for the FIRST SGA movie.

[Killdeer]

I love the SG1 characters and was a big fan of the show, I knew that we would eventually get crossover movies and was perfectly happy with that but the SG1 cast have already had two movies to themselves - but Atlantis isn't even allowed one. Couldn't the SGA cast have been given their moment in the spot light without SG1 muscling in? Apparently TPTB don't trust Atlantis to stand on its own two feet even now.

My thoughts exactly. SG1 has had two movies without even a whisper of Atlantis cast, and very likely will have a third. Atlantis on the other hand doesn't even get one movie to themselves.

[pilgrim soul]

^I'm actually in support of crossovers in the future, if the movies do continue they will become necessary because cast members will move on and get new regular gigs and won't be available for filming so they'll have to mix and match the characters depending on availability BUT I'm just deeply, deeply disappointed that they aren't giving Atlantis just this one chance to stand alone.

[Killdeer]

^I'm actually in support of crossovers in the future, if the movies do continue they will become necessary because cast members will move on and get new regular gigs and won't be available for filming so they'll have to mix and match the characters depending on availability BUT I'm just deeply, deeply disappointed that they aren't giving Atlantis just this one chance to stand alone.

I completely agree. I wanted a Team movie, and by team I mean the Atlantis team, not the SG-1 team. :( :(

[Laura Dove]

I too don't want the SG-1 characters to invade SGA movie. I don't mind them if they are mandatory for the story (say, if the movie starts with Sheppard/McKay on Earth before returning to the Pegasus galaxy) and merely make a brief appearance; but if they are detrimental to the SGA cast presence, it's bad news indeed. :( :mad:

The Carter / Teal'c scene in "The Seer" annoyed me a lot, and I couldn't have cared less about Teal'c presence in "Midway". They brought nothing to SGA but maybe a few pure SG-1 fans, and wasted screen time that could have been used otherwise. As for Carter, within a year as the leader of Atlantis, she was nothing but wallpaper. It could have been about anybody else. At least, O'Neill and Woolsey in "The Return" brought comic relief, and Woolsey's other appearances have meaning as the IOA dog. But other than that, no thanks. If they desire to revisit past SGA characters, they'd better unfroze replicator Weir: At least there is a story to tell about her.

It's already bad enough that Daniel Jackson seems to play an important part in the mid-season double episode. :( If they have to put gratuitous scenes and external characters that neither build the story nor develop Atlantis characters, I'd prefer those extra characters to be wraith; at least we would have a hope to learn some interesting piece about their society!

If JM has to mention explicitly that SG-1 characters are making an appearance when the story isn't even fully determined yet, chances are it means they really are useless to the story and their presence will feel unneeded and forced. They'll be there for the simple sake of being there. :mad: We don't need characters that merely duplicate abilities original SGA characters already have. Especially not in the very first SGA film, unless they want to kill SGA once and for all by turning away both pure SG-1 and pure SGA fans. :(

[Daniel Jackson]

Do you think the Atlantis TV movie will feature the Wraith, lesser known villains from the show, or something new?

[Jumper_One]

it will definitely feature the Wraith. Joe said

Missy writes: “Just a quick question, Are you planning on wrapping up the wraith story line between now and the movie, or are you gonna save them for other movies?”

Answer: Some storylines will be wrapped up by series end, but the wraith will continue to be a presence beyond our 100th episode.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/august-23-2008-questions-answers-guests-and-pics/

[Daniel Jackson]

Nice. The Wraith are my favorite villains from the show. I am glad they will be in the movie. Thanks! :sheppard:

[Cavil]

I would much prefer the new villains from the mid season two-parter to be the focus of the first Atlantis movie, seeing that there is all this hype about them and the fact that we wont see them again in any other way due to Atlantis' cancellation.

[jenks]

You haven't even seen them yet, they could be crap.

[Cavil]

You haven't even seen them yet, they could be crap.

True, but most eps of Atlantis feature the Wraith and im getting tired of them... I think the new race will be cool, pictures i have seen look promising.

[Daniel Jackson]

I would much prefer the new villains from the mid season two-parter to be the focus of the first Atlantis movie...
You prefer new villains you've yet to see? :confused:

[Andromeda Galaxy]

what if the new villains are like the kull warriors(kull warriors is to stargate sg-1 as new villains is to stargate atlantis), and can u really imagine if an entire movie was focused on something like the kull warriors.

[Anubis21]

i think that the 1st new movie should be with the new villians that are going to appear in the mid season episodes and the maybe the final one and then in the second movie it should contain the wraith.
:ronan::teyla::ford::beckett::sheppard::mckay:

[Browncoat1984]

I personally hope that they don't just kill the Wraith off in one movie. I could see at least a duology used for the Wraith or possibly a trilogy of movies. Maybe they could make three movies and sell them as a single collection? That would rock. There's so many different possibilities with this format.

[Infinite-Possibilities]

I think it would be awesome to have them both in it, theoretically. It would hark back to the sort of dilemma or scenario of "Peacekeeper Wars". But then I am a sucker for any villain vs villian conflict with the heros caught between fighting both. The Replicator-Wraith War didn't seem that closely covered.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I think it would be awesome to have them both in it, theoretically. It would hark back to the sort of dilemma or scenario of "Peacekeeper Wars". But then I am a sucker for any villain vs villian conflict with the heros caught between fighting both. The Replicator-Wraith War didn't seem that closely covered.

Yeah, I'm admittedly a huge sucker for that scenario also. The Asuran-Wraith conflict didn't give us enough of this angle, mainly because, well, the conflict raged on everywhere except Atlantis, practically.

[Mike1989]

I'd prefer the Wraith to have a major presence, maybe set the film a year later and have the Wraith grown in power to being a major force and have a full scale war with Atlantis. Maybe with Todd having to make a decision whether to support Atlantis or the Wraith armada. I'd like the Wraith over these new villains off the pictures I've seen.

[JThunder101]

I know I wouldn't be so upset over the cancelation of Atlantis if they had a commitment of more than just one tv/movie.

However, right now there is just the commitment for the one and some vague references there will be more if the first one does well.

I think they should have made an initial commitment of three that they could have told one big story across, a trilogy of films.

I liked SG-1's "Ark of Truth" and loved "Continuum," but both were very limited in what they can do and the amount of character they could get into.

I have always said they should treat these tv-movies like a mini-series with a large story that has more room to play out with different types of set pieces, battles and so on, but still have the time to devote to character.

Who agrees?

[Cavil]

Heres hoping they will make more than just the one for Atlantis, I was dissapointed with Ark Of Truth but i liked Continuum, that was classic SG-1!

Not sure if i agree with you on making movies that will have an ongoing arc specific to the first movie, i would like to see first a movie involving this new race thats appearing in the mid season two parter (its a shame we wont see more of them now due to the cancellation and i was led to beleive they were being set up as the new 'big bad'), or a Wraith story and then they could just go on and make seperate movies, delving deeper into Pegasus.

[Xylian]

I know I wouldn't be so upset over the cancelation of Atlantis if they had a commitment of more than just one tv/movie.

However, right now there is just the commitment for the one and some vague references there will be more if the first one does well.

I think they should have made an initial commitment of three that they could have told one big story across, a trilogy of films.

I liked SG-1's "Ark of Truth" and loved "Continuum," but both were very limited in what they can do and the amount of character they could get into.

I have always said they should treat these tv-movies like a mini-series with a large story that has more room to play out with different types of set pieces, battles and so on, but still have the time to devote to character.

Who agrees?

It wouldn't make since for them to do a trilogy of movies when they don't even know if they will be successful with sales. Though, I like the idea of a trilogy of movies. It would give them a lot more freedom with a large story arc. If not that, then a mini-series.

From what I can predict, I will say that more Atlantis movies will definately happen after this first. However, Season 5 hasn't even ended yet and teh first movie has come out yet so I'm not too worried about it yet.

[rielgenius1688]

the problem with Atlantis is that the Pegasus Galaxy has never been portrayed as being even close to as diverse as Milky Way was. It's a real challenge to think of other possible enemies beyond the Wraith and this new race.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Something I'm sure the writers could tackle if they gave it a go. That's what they're doing with 5x10/5x11, incidentally. We'll see how that pans out, and how much of the new foe is left after 'The Lost Tribe', and perhaps more importantly, 'Enemy at the Gate'.

I have full confidence we'll see more than just one telefilm. I don't expect SGA's opening to the venue to be as strong as SG-1's, but I think it will be close. Very close.

[Daniel Jackson]

If a lot of people watch the TV movie and the DVD sells well, then yes... there will be more movies, I would expect.

I'd rather have movies instead of a miniseries. A miniseries would only give us one story. Alternatively, we could have a few movies, each with it's own story. I prefer variety. I also don't like idea of Stargate becoming a serial. I like stand-alone adventures.

[kymeric]

If a lot of people watch the TV movie and the DVD sells well, then yes... there will be more movies, I would expect.

I'd rather have movies instead of a miniseries. A miniseries would only give us one story. Alternatively, we could have a few movies, each with it's own story. I prefer variety. I also don't like idea of Stargate becoming a serial. I like stand-alone adventures.

Theres no reason to believe it wont be as successful as the SG1 movies. With the new production cost split between scifi/mgm for first airing rights on scifi it will definatly be more profitable and less of a financial risk.

Theyre just not making sweeping promises. What if there was an earthquake and all of canada fell into the ocean after they promised 5 atlantis movies, theyed be BONED!

[huntress]

It all depends on the sales. If NBC/MGM makes a good penny from the DVD sale then chances are high that there will be another movie. We will see.

[jenks]

It all depends on the sales. If NBC/MGM makes a good penny from the DVD sale then chances are high that there will be another movie. We will see.

NBC won't make a penny from the DVD sales.

[jenks]

There's an IMDb page for it here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1288405/), no new info though.

[Daniel Jackson]

My thoughts exactly. SG1 has had two movies without even a whisper of Atlantis cast, and very likely will have a third. Atlantis on the other hand doesn't even get one movie to themselves.
Michael Beach, Colonel Ellis from Atlantis, had a cameo in The Ark of Truth. ;)

[Killdeer]

Michael Beach, Colonel Ellis from Atlantis, had a cameo in The Ark of Truth. ;)

:rolleyes: Ok, a whisper. I was referring to main credited cast members, but I suppose I should have spelled that out. :)

[Daniel Jackson]

I was responding to what you said, not what I thought you might have intended. ;)

[naamiaiset]

A few things from the Q&A with Carl Binder in JM's blog (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/september-23-2008-carl-binder-up-close-and-personal-further-discussion-on-the-black-company-the-mailbag-and-a-behind-the-scenes-snippet/).


After speaking with Paul on Sunday, it was decided that we would head back into the office Tuesday morning so that we could, at the very least, start spinning the SGA movie.


Abbas Karimjee writes: “Will the Atlantis movie wrap up the wraith storyline?
Answers: 1) No comment.

[VSS]

Indeed. And I've said that is certainly unfair.

There are however people that object to ANY SG1 character appearing in any form of Atlantis, let alone this movie, and I think that's amazingly silly if they're objecting to background characters, such as Davis, or indeed, O'Neill or Carter now. The former has most certainly transcended SG1, as he's Head of the DHWS, and the latter, as stated IS an SGA character now. But characters so deeply rooted in the SG1 show, ie Mitchell, Daniel, Vala and Teal'c, who HAVEN'T been "promoted" out of the team, would indeed be invading an SGA specific film should they appear, and whilst I think Daniel has every right to appear in the SGA movie (as he is a Stargate character, nor specifically an SG1 character), the fact he's still on the SG1 team makes it distinctly inappropriate for the FIRST SGA movie.

I think you have really summarized the problem very well. There is absolutely no reason for the current members of SG-1 to have anything to do with Atlantis. And I'm big SG-1 fan, but I wouldn't want them there. It was a real stretch to get Teal'c involved the first time.


^I'm actually in support of crossovers in the future, if the movies do continue they will become necessary because cast members will move on and get new regular gigs and won't be available for filming so they'll have to mix and match the characters depending on availability BUT I'm just deeply, deeply disappointed that they aren't giving Atlantis just this one chance to stand alone.

I'm disappointed too. I seems like they're not going for the integrity angle, are they? They just can't do justice to all the characters that way. Continuum had that problem. You'd have thought TPTB would have learned that people get ticked if they think their favorite character is going to be there and it turns out they've got a bit part, like O'Neill had.
Atlantis already had a very big cast, and a lot of new cast members the last year or two. I don't get it. If they're going to be filming this next year, surely the current Atlantis team will still be available, won't they?

[ha'tak_]

Wolf O'Donnell;8792992]Include Ford.

indeed:ford:

[Boon]

We all know Ford is alive... somewhere out there... waiting...http://www.forumup.it/images/smiles/Drogar-EvilGrin(LBG).gif

[Khentkawes]

Wow. I came over here to see where the info about SG-1 and SGA crossovers came from. Now I know. And apparently a bunch of people are not as excited about this prospect as I am.



If JM has to mention explicitly that SG-1 characters are making an appearance when the story isn't even fully determined yet, chances are it means they really are useless to the story and their presence will feel unneeded and forced. They'll be there for the simple sake of being there. :mad:

Fair enough. I understand your point. But look at what JM said:

It’s very possible that we’ll have, at the very least, limited crossover. Given the story we’ve been spinning, it would make sense to see Carter, Daniel, and Teal’c pay Atlantis a visit.

That implies that the story was set first. He's saying that in the context of the story they are planning to write, it "would make sense" to see a few SG-1 characters. I don't think they are doing it just to put SG-1 characters in the movie. It definitely sounds like they have a specific reason for the crossover characters. A reason that is tied directly to the main storyline.

The writers worked for both shows, so I get the feeling they see SG-1 and SGA more as extensions of each other. Which makes sense to me.

I actually read that interview with JM some time back, but had forgotten he mentioned potential (note: he says "possible") crossovers. Now that I re-read it, I'm really excited. It should be cool. :D

[Chevron Atlantis]

Not a fan of being it turned into movie, I am sure the anti - Atlantis fans will be happy that its being turned into a movie.

[Calhoun]

A showdown between Atlantis, the Wraith, and Michael would be good... the whole "enemy of my enemy" ambiguity of who you trust, and whether its worth working with an enemy to defeat a greater enemy... plus, the whole Michael arc deserves a decent send-off (assuming he doesn't die in an upcoming episode, of course).

[Ripple in Space]

I actually read that interview with JM some time back, but had forgotten he mentioned potential (note: he says "possible") crossovers. Now that I re-read it, I'm really excited. It should be cool. :D

They're shooting the SG-1 & Atlantis movies around the same time, so if SG-1 does appear in Atlantis, it'll be a cameo at best, since I doubt the actors have the time to do 1 movie after another.

So no I don't think any true crossovers are in the works.

But, I think it makes a lot of sense, if we see it later down the line:
:jack:- Head of Homeworld Security, the expedition answers to him. He is Sheppard's direct superior officer.

:sam:- Former expedition commander.

:daniel:- The expert on the Ancients, he lived among them for crying out loud.

:tealc:- The greatest warrior in three galaxies. Even Ronon respects his skills. Also a seasoned strategist.

[Khentkawes]

They're shooting the SG-1 & Atlantis movies around the same time, so if SG-1 does appear in Atlantis, it'll be a cameo at best, since I doubt the actors have the time to do 1 movie after another.

You could be right about that. It's a valid point. I'm sure we'll hear more when they get closer to filming both movies.


So no I don't think any true crossovers are in the works.

But, I think it makes a lot of sense, if we see it later down the line:
:jack:- Head of Homeworld Security, the expedition answers to him. He is Sheppard's direct superior officer.

:sam:- Former expedition commander.

:daniel:- The expert on the Ancients, he lived among them for crying out loud.

:tealc:- The greatest warrior in three galaxies. Even Ronon respects his skills. Also a seasoned strategist.

I agree. I think that some crossover would make sense. Which is why I said I was excited. It's not like they would have to invent reasons to bring over SG-1 characters. They all operate in the same universe, so it would be plausible to see them together. Personally, I think it would be a good thing.

[Laura Dove]

I agree. I think that some crossover would make sense. Which is why I said I was excited. It's not like they would have to invent reasons to bring over SG-1 characters. They all operate in the same universe, so it would be plausible to see them together. Personally, I think it would be a good thing.

As I said somewhere else, surely you wouldn't mind if they make one (possibly two) true SGA movie plus a crossover and just drop pure SG-1 movies, then.

[Daniel Jackson]

Does anyone know what the working title for the Atlantis movie will be called? It'd be nice if I could call it something other than the Atlantis movie. Thanks. :sheppard:

[Invictus]

Does anyone know what the working title for the Atlantis movie will be called? It'd be nice if I could call it something other than the Atlantis movie. Thanks. :sheppard:

I think they still working on it. :D

[Anubis-]

I fear that there is many lines. Sheppard & Ronon handles Wraith and Rodney does some other thing :(

[McgillionFan]

I think it should defently include the wraith in the Atlantis movie. Atlantis wouldn't be the same without wraith i think,as they've been there since the beginning and are the main or one of the main threat's in the Pegasus Galaxy.

A new villan woud be cool though.ooo what about a giant wraith monster thing ? lol

[Orion Antreas]

Does anyone know what the working title for the Atlantis movie will be called? It'd be nice if I could call it something other than the Atlantis movie. Thanks. :sheppard:

Currently it is under the production name "Project: Twilight".

[Jumper_One]

As I said somewhere else, surely you wouldn't mind if they make one (possibly two) true SGA movie plus a crossover and just drop pure SG-1 movies, then.

they'll continue to produce SG-1 and Atlantis movies as long as they're profitable

[Laura Dove]

they'll continue to produce SG-1 and Atlantis movies as long as they're profitable

So far, it looks more like they are planning to produce SG-1 and crossover movies and give up Atlantis stories with Atlantis characters in the Pegasus galaxy.

[Jumper_One]

So far, it looks more like they are planning to produce SG-1 and crossover movies and give up Atlantis stories with Atlantis characters in the Pegasus galaxy.

it does? how so?

[Laura Dove]

it does? how so?

"It's very possible that we'll have, at the very least, limited crossover." from Joe Mallozzi's interview (http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604). If they already intend to make a crossover in place of a first SGA movie, do you really believe they will make actual SGA movies later, when it's likely more and more actors will have found other jobs and so will be unavailable? (At least I hope for them.)

[Jumper_One]

"It's very possible that we'll have, at the very least, limited crossover." from Joe Mallozzi's interview (http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604).

so? Joe said it's possible, not that it will actually happen. he also said

[...] Given the story we’ve been spinning, it would make sense to see Carter, Daniel, and Teal’c pay Atlantis a visit.
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604


If they already intend to make a crossover in place of a first SGA movie, do you really believe they will make actual SGA movies later, when it's likely more and more actors will have found other jobs and so will be unavailable? (At least I hope for them.)

why not?

[Laura Dove]

so? Joe said it's possible, not that it will actually happen. he also said
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604


"Very possible", not "possible". And of course, if they're considering a story that isn't really about SGA storylines, Atlantis, the Pegasus galaxy and its natives but instead about Earth and the Milky Way, it makes sense for the full SG-1 team to turn up. If you go for a crossover, you'll need a crossover, sure.


why not?

Because the more time passes, the more likely it is, as I said, that "more and more actors will have found other jobs and so will be unavailable".

[Jumper_One]

"Very possible", not "possible". And of course, if they're considering a story that isn't really about SGA storylines, Atlantis, the Pegasus galaxy and its natives but instead about Earth and the Milky Way, it makes sense for the full SG-1 team to turn up. If you go for a crossover, you'll need a crossover, sure.

why would they make an Atlantis movie about Earth?


Because the more time passes, the more likely it is, as I said, that "more and more actors will have found other jobs and so will be unavailable".

true but you said the reason for no actual Atlantis movie would be TPTB's intention to do crossovers. Joe said

It’s very possible that we’ll have, at the very least, limited crossover.
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604

from GW's interview with DH

I don't want us to be completely distanced from SG-1. The whole point is that this is all part of the same universe. There has to be that crossover stuff and that back and forth.
http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/brain_child.shtml

I'm sure they'll consider doing a crossover movie eventually but right now fans seem to be interested in SG-1 and Atlantis movies

[Jeff O'Connor]

I still say with the right meaning behind it, 'Twilight' would be a great name for the telefilm.

[Laura Dove]

why would they make an Atlantis movie about Earth?

Because it's the only understandable reason to bring in the SG-1 cast into a SGA movie? It's even more disregarding towards SGA fans if the story happens in the Pegasus galaxy about Pegasus problems and they still bring SG-1 characters in force.


true but you said the reason for no actual Atlantis movie would be TPTB's intention to do crossovers. Joe said
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1604


Now, to avoid forgetting half the words, let's highlight the same quote as
It's very possible that we'll have, at the very least, limited crossover. (Not even "at least" but "at the very least".)


from GW's interview with DH
http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/brain_child.shtml
I'm sure they'll consider doing a crossover movie eventually but right now fans seem to be interested in SG-1 and Atlantis movies

I don't mind if they make both SGA movies and crossovers. In an ideal world, as JM said 3 movies were to be expected a year, 4 if lucky, they would make one SG-1 movie plus one SGA movie plus a crossover including characters from both casts, and possibly a 4th movie if they can (any choice would fit: SG-1, SGA or crossover). Or one SG-1 movie, one SGA movie, and one to two others (SG-1, SGA and/or crossover).

But obviously, that's not what they are aiming at. Joe Mallozzi's quote make it clear that the crossover will not be made eventually, as you say it, but instead replace the first SGA movie unless they change their minds. What were we announced for 2009? 1 SG-1 movie and 1 crossover -- no mention of an SGA movie at all...

[Khentkawes]

Because it's the only understandable reason to bring in the SG-1 cast into a SGA movie? It's even more disregarding towards SGA fans if the story happens in the Pegasus galaxy about Pegasus problems and they still bring SG-1 characters in force.

I don't know about that. I'm pretty sure it will be Atlantis/Pegasus-based, not an Earth-based story. Sam is hardly even a crossover character considering she was Atlantis main cast for a year. To me, it would make sense to see Sam in Atlantis again. There would be plenty of reasons for her to be there. She knows the people, she knows the situation, and she was well-respected by the Atlantis team. So in reality, Sam would probably be hoping to return for a visit if nothing else.

Daniel... well, he does know a lot about the Ancients, and given his recent involvement, I'm sure they could come up with a plausible reason. As a matter of fact, as I already mentioned, Joe M said that "it would make sense" to see a few specific characters, implying that there is a specific and plausible reason for their presence.

IIRC, the only other "potential crossover" that JM mentioned was Teal'c. And I will admit, I have no idea why Teal'c would be in Atlantis. *shrug* I guess we'll find out if it happens.



But obviously, that's not what they are aiming at. Joe Mallozzi's quote make it clear that the crossover will not be made eventually, as you say it, but instead replace the first SGA movie unless they change their minds. What were we announced for 2009? 1 SG-1 movie and 1 crossover -- no mention of an SGA movie at all...

I haven't heard anyone announce a crossover movie. They announced an SGA movie (which may have some "crossover" characters). It's still defined by Atlantis, it will still deal with the Pegasus galaxy, the Atlantis storylines and the Atlantis cast. And if there are SG-1 characters, they will likely be in supporting roles at best. As far as I can tell, that's still an SGA movie.

Maybe it's a matter of how you define "crossover." But when 90% of the movie is about Atlantis (and by all accounts, that will be the case), then as a whole, I don't think it's a crossover movie. It's an Atlantis movie. IMO a few "crossover characters" does not make it a full crossover movie when the majority of it is still about Atlantis. To use another example, I don't consider Moebius to be a crossover episode just because McKay has a few scenes in it. But maybe I'm defining "crossover movie" and "crossover episode" differently than other people. To me, if it was a true crossover, it would involve collaboration between the two casts, and a nearly equal focus on both SGA and SG-1 characters/plotlines (like "Pegasus Project" or "First Contact"). I don't see that happening in the upcoming SGA movie.

[Slyke]

Theres no reason to believe it wont be as successful as the SG1 movies. With the new production cost split between scifi/mgm for first airing rights on scifi it will definatly be more profitable and less of a financial risk.

Theyre just not making sweeping promises. What if there was an earthquake and all of canada fell into the ocean after they promised 5 atlantis movies, theyed be BONED!

They could just rename them all to "The lost city of Canada".

[Platschu]

I think 2 SG-1 and 2 Atlantis movie would be enough in every year until 2012-2015. :p

[the fifth man]

I think 2 SG-1 and 2 Atlantis movie would be enough in every year until 2012-2015. :p

Man, I'll second that.:)

[jelgate]

It would be nice but unrealastic.Your not going to get more then two movies a year

[PhoenixSG1]

4 total Stargate movies is unrealistic considering the physical, mental, financial, and ultimately, time demands made on all the different people that have to make the movie come together.

I think I will be happy with one movie a year, two would be nice, but again, that's pushing it severely

[Platschu]

They could release a movie in every 3 months. I know it won't happen, but we are dreaming only together. They mentioned that the effect make companies could hardly finish AoT and Continuum next to the newest season of Atlantis, so I am interested how will they have enough time for Universe season 1 + Atlanis DVD film 1 + SG-1 DVD film 3 together.

I still believe the future of the franchise could be an SG-1 or SG-1/Atlantis theatrical movie + Atlantis DVD movies + Universe season 1 + successful Worlds game with minor cross-overs. But try to imagine that they make an SG-1 movie with even bigger budget, than they won't return to DVD films again. So I don't know exactly what is better for the fans. I would like to hear that MGM and SciFi ordered 5-5 movie in they next 5 year. Because if the third movie will be sold in 2010, than they won't make a 4th movie in 2010, they will film it in 2011, what will be released only in 2012 etc. So I would like to see SG-1 and Atlantis movies in every year, but they are afraid to risk anything. :o

[Korumera]

Well there will be more Atlantis movies if the sales of the first one are as good as the sales of the SG-1 movies. A story arc of 3 or more movies would be nice altho I also like the 1 story per movie idea. But it's all speculation we'll just have to wait and see :D

[angela23]

I hope that they will make at least 2 Movies a Year for the next 5 Years. I think a lot of people will buy them.

[prion]

Mitch Pileggi-----------------

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/supernatural/exclusive-interview-mitch-pile-23249.aspx

Exclusive Interview: Mitch Pileggi of 'Supernatural'


Do you have any plans to go back to Stargate: Atlantis for the movie they're doing?
I have no idea. Unless they call and ask me about it, I don't know what their plans are. I'd love to do it, but we'll see where they go with it.

[prion]

Robert Picardo has signed on as a guest at the Vancouver April 2-5, 2009 convention.

[akren]

I would like to see the Atlantis movie tie up some loose ends, specifically the arc with Michael (assuming he doesn't get offed in the Prodigal or something like that :P), as well as feature the Wraith (specifically Todd) & the new enemy as well. It doesn't have to tie up everything, but bringing things to a nice form of resolution & having some closure; like they did with SG-1 in Season 8, would be nice. On-going adventures after the fact, like with SG-1, would also be a bonus. :)

[Vespasianus]

And don't forget that:


"Obviously, I can’t say much about it at this point but suffice it to say that it should include the entire cast in addition to a certain gaunt and pallid flowing-locked guest star."Methinks Todd!! I'm a Hungarian though, so I can't be sure 'flowing-locked' means indeed 'dreadlocks', so please correct me if it doesn't.;)

[ykickamoocow]

After reading Joseph Mallozzi's blog about the general outline for season 6 if it was picked up would be. These two episodes stuck in my mind as

#9: The Replacements: Brad pitched out a story in which the team run afoul of an alien race and, while being pursued, end up victims of a temporal effect that catapults them six months into the future. They return to Atlantis to find they’ve been given up for dead and replaced. As they attempt to settle in to their new positions (and work with their replacements) the alien race indirectly responsible for their predicament pays Atlantis a visit…

#13: Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow: McKay’s experiments with a time-traveling puddle jumper send the team both backwards and forwards in time. The story jumps from five years into the past (where one version of the team struggles to acquire the puddle jumper and undo the damage done without affecting the time line), five years into the future (where the wraith have taken over Atlantis and another version of the team is attempting to acquire the jumper so that they can warn their past selves), and the present (unaffected team) with developments in each timeline influencing events in the other. At the end of the day, despite my detailed, color-coded outline, everybody else’s head threatened to explode so the story was shelved.

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Does anyone else think that either of these idea's (especially the 2nd one) would make a great Atlantis movie?

The 2nd idea especially could be very good as a movie with the team traveling both forwards and backwards in time seeing charaters who have died/disappeard (Ford and Weir) aswell as going back in time over 10,000 years to meet the Ancients. There are just so many possibilities with that idea.

[DeeKayP]

After reading Joseph Mallozzi's blog about the general outline for season 6 if it was picked up would be. These two episodes stuck in my mind as

#9: The Replacements: Brad pitched out a story in which the team run afoul of an alien race and, while being pursued, end up victims of a temporal effect that catapults them six months into the future. They return to Atlantis to find they’ve been given up for dead and replaced. As they attempt to settle in to their new positions (and work with their replacements) the alien race indirectly responsible for their predicament pays Atlantis a visit…

#13: Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow: McKay’s experiments with a time-traveling puddle jumper send the team both backwards and forwards in time. The story jumps from five years into the past (where one version of the team struggles to acquire the puddle jumper and undo the damage done without affecting the time line), five years into the future (where the wraith have taken over Atlantis and another version of the team is attempting to acquire the jumper so that they can warn their past selves), and the present (unaffected team) with developments in each timeline influencing events in the other. At the end of the day, despite my detailed, color-coded outline, everybody else’s head threatened to explode so the story was shelved.

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Does anyone else think that either of these idea's (especially the 2nd one) would make a great Atlantis movie?

The 2nd idea especially could be very good as a movie with the team traveling both forwards and backwards in time seeing charaters who have died/disappeard (Ford and Weir) aswell as going back in time over 10,000 years to meet the Ancients. There are just so many possibilities with that idea.

I think it's interesting that "Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow" was originally pitched for SG-1, but they went with "The Road Not Taken" instead. For a while, it looked like YT&T was going to be in Season Five of SGA, but then it apparently got moved to Season Six, as was mentioned in your quote. I wonder how many other ideas they pitched and shelved that could be written for the movies. That must be kind of exciting for the writers, especially if they were as attached to a storyline as Mallozzi was to YT&T.

[Ripple in Space]

I think it's interesting that "Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow" was originally pitched for SG-1, but they went with "The Road Not Taken" instead. For a while, it looked like YT&T was going to be in Season Five of SGA, but then it apparently got moved to Season Six, as was mentioned in your quote. I wonder how many other ideas they pitched and shelved that could be written for the movies. That must be kind of exciting for the writers, especially if they were as attached to a storyline as Mallozzi was to YT&T.

How could they have done YT&T in SG-1 S10? Unlike the Atlantis cast, SG-1 all looked signifigantly different from when the show started. Don't get me wrong, they're all clearly very attractive people, but even Shanks, who is the youngest, looks much different in S10 compared to S1 or even S5. Also, RDA would've had to have been in it...

I like the idea better for Atlantis anyway, not the most original since it sounds a bit like "The Last Man" and "2010," but I'd like to see it.

"The Replacements" also sounds interesting.

[spinny magee]

I reckon Todd will most likely die in The lost tribe if not make him in the Movie
With michael theres pictures of him fighting ronon so im counting him out of the movie hes a bit like Apophis you know he just doesn't know how to die. I hope the new enemies from First Contact are in the movie and of course i hope the wraith have a major part in it but i doubt the wraith will be annhilated theres just simply too many of them.

[DeeKayP]

How could they have done YT&T in SG-1 S10? Unlike the Atlantis cast, SG-1 all looked signifigantly different from when the show started. Don't get me wrong, they're all clearly very attractive people, but even Shanks, who is the youngest, looks much different in S10 compared to S1 or even S5. Also, RDA would've had to have been in it...

The storyline for SG-1 was probably different than the one that ended up being pitched for SGA. We were never told what it was going to be like for SG-1 when it was originally pitched -- we only had the title.

[Jumper_One]

I reckon Todd will most likely die in The lost tribe if not make him in the Movie

Todd will appear in the season finale so no he won't die in TLT


With michael theres pictures of him fighting ronon so im counting him out of the movie hes a bit like Apophis you know he just doesn't know how to die. I hope the new enemies from First Contact are in the movie and of course i hope the wraith have a major part in it but i doubt the wraith will be annhilated theres just simply too many of them.


Missy writes: “Just a quick question, Are you planning on wrapping up the wraith story line between now and the movie, or are you gonna save them for other movies?”

Answer: Some storylines will be wrapped up by series end, but the wraith will continue to be a presence beyond our 100th episode.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/august-23-2008-questions-answers-guests-and-pics/

[knowles2]

I got to idea for Stargate Atlantis movies.

Idea 1

The film start of with flash backs of past events. A voice over. Someone who we do not recognize. It a commander from special operations branch that the IOA set up, to think of uses for the varied alien devices recovered by the SGC. I would put in a heavy hints that they were the ones behind the used of the replicators in AOT.

The wraith captured one our vessels and they have took it to a heavily defended wraith research and ship construction facility, reversing engineering the vessel technologies. This is one of the main alliances that the wraith have formed over the past five years. They have 30 hive vessels in orbit and at least 200 cruisers, with a full satellite defense grid. A normal sg style assault will not work as their is no Stargate. What we need is something which is more organize and generally bigger than standard rescue mission.


They hear the man present his plan for the rescue the crew which Apollo sensors have detected are still alive. And recovery of the earth vessel, and the destruction of all prototype wraith/Asgurd technology that have been built.

The operation essentially involve three main part.

Infiltration of the facility.

This will be done by flying wraith ship to the planet. We will obtain the ship by repairing and raising the crash cruiser we found on the bottom of the ocean.
The ship will negotiate into the planet orbit. Where teyla will negotiate with the wraith alliance to and wants direct face talk to the alliance leader.

If she gains permission she will then take a wraith shuttle/fighter down to the planet as the bay doors opens the and entire fleet of puddles jumpers cloaked will fly down to the planet, each carrying a dozen or so marines.

Each Marine will be equip with sodan to cloak to travel around the base the to plant explosive. And destroying any Wraith lab they come across. All eventually making their way to the Phoenix.

A covert unit will have special orders that shepherd team does not know about. Their primary mission will be to fly the prototype cruiser out of the base and back to the milky way for study and reverse engineering.

Shepperd will lead the main assault team to free the crew of the Phoenix and fly the vessel out their if possible. (The vessel will of cause be unable to fly and they will take the prototype cruiser instead.) They will not to be able to land so instead will perform a ultra high altitude jump from the puddle jumper.

Whiles the rescue ops is going on the Daedalus will be dropping the Stargate in orbit around the sun. This stargate will be used to connect to a black hole and used to cause a supernova.

Whiles the Apollo will perform a in atmosphere hyperdrive jump to pick up all of the puddle jumper and to provide some distractions whiles the cruiser are leaving the planet.


Idea 2

Is that Todd has arrive at Atlantis to oversee the first experimentation of the drug to allow the wraith to live of normal food and no longer hunt for human.
At the same Zalenka and one of the science teams have started to research new piece of technology. They have just manage to get power to the device.

Keller injects the drug into each of the wraith volunteer including Todd himself.

Soon after all the wraith start shaking violently.

At the exact same members of the expeditions, those with the ATA gene starts collapsing into a coma.

We then learn the device was design so that ancient could in a sens hack into the wraith psychic network. The devices works perfectly and was used through out the war to disrupt the wraith communications. Their was however sides effects and certain ancients with advance abilities would fall ill and collapse and would join the Wraith psychic network. They eventually built a device that was able to block out the psychic connections and enabling the device to be used by the ancient. Each device has to be used individually, unfortunately only one of the devices remains here.

Unfortunately with the virus cause massive neuro disruption to the wraith brains and they have lost control of their abilities.

In the Psychic network Shepperd and the rest of the affected crew would experiences visions of the wraith pasts including the ancient war and many other events Todd and his fellow wraith have live through. While Todd and his fellow wraith would also experience visions of the lives of fellow members of the expedition.

During these exchanges both the wraith and the Humans both have doubts, whether the virus is a good idea. They both gain respect one another cultures.

The Psychic network is also attracting the attention of the other Wraith and single hive arrives in orbit.
Atlantis raise the cloak in time but hive still fires on the spot of Atlantis causing heavy damage.
A fire fight breaks out between the vessel and Atlantis defensive systems, and the hive is easily destroyed but other hives are on their way. And the A team is out of action and only one them can be used at any one time. Teyla and Ronon have had the gene therapy and have been effective by the Psychic network.

Everyone else will have to wait and until the virus have completed it work until they can be disconnected from the psychic network.

[jenks]

http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=59347

[JARVISBRODIE]

Here's an idea, several segments focusing on the Stargate.

[knowles2]

I got to idea for Stargate Atlantis movies.

Idea 1

The film start of flash backs of past events. A voice over. Someone who we do not recognize, someone from special operation branch that the IOA set up to think of uses for the varied alien devices recovered by the SGC. I would put in a heavy hint that they were the one behind the used of the replicators AOT.

A wraith stole one our vessels. They captured it and took it to a heavily defended wraith research and ship construction facility. They are reversing engineering the vessel technologies. This is one of the main alliances that the wraith have formed. They have 30 hive vessels in orbit and dozen of cruisers. With a full satellite defense grid.

They here the man present his plan to rescue the crew of the vessel, which Apollo sensors have detected are still alive.

Destroy the prototype wraith vessel they have built.

The mission will required the used the crash landed cruiser on their old planet. Earth three war ships and the entire fleet of the puddle jumpers

It will also require them perform a high altitude parachute jump into the wraith facility as their no place for them to land jumper.

The used of the mimic devices to fake a wraith crew on the cruiser. An the used of the sodan cloak to move around the base.

The entire film would be essentially massive rescue involving dozens of troops. With the team split up through out. Mckay and Teyla would be dealing with the cruiser. It be funny seeing Rodney as a wraith. Ronon and Shepperd being charge of the assault teams.


Idea 2

Is that Todd has arrive at Atlantis to oversee the first experimentation of the drug to allow the wraith to live of normal food and no longer hunt for human.
At the same Zalenka and one of the science teams have started to research new piece of technology. They have just manage to get power to the device.

Keller injects the drug into each of the wraith volunteer including Todd himself.

Soon after all the wraith start shaking violently.

At the exact same members of the expeditions, those with the ATA gene starts collapsing into a coma.

We then learn the device was design so that ancient could in a sens hack the wraith psychic network and receive the devices works perfectly was used through out the war to disrupt the wraith communications. But their was sides effects and certain ancient would fall ill and collapse join the Wraith pyschic. They eventually built a device that was block out the psychic connection and enabling the device to be used. But the device each person used was to be wear individually, unfortunately only one of the devices are here.

Unfortunately with the virus cause massive neuro disruption to the wraith. And they lost control of their abilities.

In the Psychic network Shepperd and the rest of the affected crew would experiences of their past lives including the ancient war and many other events throughout the live of Todd and his fellow wraith. Todd and his fellow wraith would also experience the lives of fellow members of the expedition.

During these exchanges both the wraith and the Humans both have doubt whether the virus is a good idea.

The Psychic network is also attracting the attention of the other Wraith and single hive arrives in orbit.
Atlantis raise the cloak in time but hive still fires on the spot of Atlantis causing heavy damage.

[JamesRobbo9886]

worst ideas and spelling i have ever seen

[knowles2]

worst ideas and spelling i have ever seen

Right for one your spelling have not be exactly stellar around here. I mean one of your post is, "i live in chesire but i wd defo be interested in that" text speak around here is generally frowned a upon , as their are many foreign speaking people around here and it worst than anything I wrote in the post above. And non constructive comments are also frowned upon around here to.


I will, as always come back to the post and correct spellings and grammar errors to the best of my abilities, it by far my weakest points, and I understand that and so I do spend my time correcting my posts errors and making them more readable.

[Platschu]

A swarm of iratus bugs will attack the city, because the team brought back something from their home planet. Maybe they could show different types of this life sucking evolution (like giant scorpion, Ellia type half-Wraiths, flying Wraith etc.). And the team would discover the history of a lost Ancient team, who became the first Wraith after they were infested with the Iratus bugs. The movie would include some flash-backs as Todd (or an Ancient) will tell the origin of his race and why are the Queens so similar, how they found the roots to build the first hives, what happened at the last Ancient-Wraith war etc. So basically the story will establish the historical background of the Wraith, while it will have an effect on the future. ;)

[Laura Dove]

I don't know about that. I'm pretty sure it will be Atlantis/Pegasus-based, not an Earth-based story. Sam is hardly even a crossover character considering she was Atlantis main cast for a year. To me, it would make sense to see Sam in Atlantis again. There would be plenty of reasons for her to be there. She knows the people, she knows the situation, and she was well-respected by the Atlantis team. So in reality, Sam would probably be hoping to return for a visit if nothing else.

But she was moved to another position and replaced. If, as suspected, she is now in command of a ship, it makes sense to see her along with Caldwell and Ellis, if (and only if) Earth ships are involved in the story.


Daniel... well, he does know a lot about the Ancients, and given his recent involvement, I'm sure they could come up with a plausible reason. As a matter of fact, as I already mentioned, Joe M said that "it would make sense" to see a few specific characters, implying that there is a specific and plausible reason for their presence.

If their idea of "specific and plausible reason" is his presence in "First Contact" / "The Lost Tribe" and Teal'c presence in "Midway", then I beg to disagree. They didn't do anything genuine SGA characters couldn't have done.


IIRC, the only other "potential crossover" that JM mentioned was Teal'c. And I will admit, I have no idea why Teal'c would be in Atlantis. *shrug* I guess we'll find out if it happens.

I think JM mentioned O'Neill too. While I liked him "The Return", I would hate him to detract from SGA characters screen time in the first movie.


I haven't heard anyone announce a crossover movie. They announced an SGA movie (which may have some "crossover" characters). It's still defined by Atlantis, it will still deal with the Pegasus galaxy, the Atlantis storylines and the Atlantis cast. And if there are SG-1 characters, they will likely be in supporting roles at best. As far as I can tell, that's still an SGA movie.

If it's a real Atlantis movie and not a crossover, then why do they feel so compelled to bring in SG-1 in force? In JM's words, we may get "at the very least, limited crossover", which means "likely unlimited crossover". My only hope is that, as the story is not written yet, they reduce SG-1 characters' screen time to, say, Lorne-sized. :mckay:


Maybe it's a matter of how you define "crossover." But when 90% of the movie is about Atlantis (and by all accounts, that will be the case), then as a whole, I don't think it's a crossover movie. It's an Atlantis movie. IMO a few "crossover characters" does not make it a full crossover movie when the majority of it is still about Atlantis. To use another example, I don't consider Moebius to be a crossover episode just because McKay has a few scenes in it. But maybe I'm defining "crossover movie" and "crossover episode" differently than other people. To me, if it was a true crossover, it would involve collaboration between the two casts, and a nearly equal focus on both SGA and SG-1 characters/plotlines (like "Pegasus Project" or "First Contact"). I don't see that happening in the upcoming SGA movie.

Well, IMO, "The Return" part 2 was almost a SG-1 episode set in Atlantis with crossover SGA characters, "First Contact" was a crossover, and "Midway" a SGA episode with crossover SG-1 characters. While the scale is not strict, the feeling depends on the relative importance of SGA versus other characters.

I can totally imagine them writing the first movie with as much crossover as in "First Contact", and I don't like that. :(

[Xiphias]

ahhh somewhere cheaper? =)

To NZ. We have trees, Mountains and Cows. And some people. And it's cheap.

[Jumper_One]

Went into the office today and watched the producer’s cut of Enemy at the Gate. A fitting end to a terrific series, and one that’ll segue nicely into the movie - which Paul and I continue to spin. To those of you asking, it will ideally include all the familiar faces - and then some.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/october-6-2008-insomnia-stargate-guests-books-and-mailbag/

[Khentkawes]

But she was moved to another position and replaced. If, as suspected, she is now in command of a ship, it makes sense to see her along with Caldwell and Ellis, if (and only if) Earth ships are involved in the story.

Technically, all ships are Earth ships (made on earth, with a crew from earth). And Atlantis uses "Earth ships" all the time. So, your explanation sounds like a plausible reason to me. Maybe Atlantis needs a bunch of ships for some reason and Carter is commanding one of them.

Or maybe Carter has another reason for visiting. Like I said, she spent a year there. She has invested a lot of time and energy into Atlantis and its people. And she was apparently well liked by the Atlantis characters. So why wouldn't she go to Atlantis if she had the chance?


If it's a real Atlantis movie and not a crossover, then why do they feel so compelled to bring in SG-1 in force? In JM's words, we may get "at the very least, limited crossover", which means "likely unlimited crossover". My only hope is that, as the story is not written yet, they reduce SG-1 characters' screen time to, say, Lorne-sized.

They always make a big deal out of guest stars. And those same guest stars usually only end up in a scene or two. They did the same thing with Continuum... they teased us by listing all the old guest stars who would return. Those guests each got one short scene. Some of them were lucky to get more than one line. So "Lorne-sized" roles, is probably what we're going to get.

Simply put, JM is dropping these hints to create as much of a buzz as possible.


Well, IMO, "The Return" part 2 was almost a SG-1 episode set in Atlantis with crossover SGA characters, "First Contact" was a crossover, and "Midway" a SGA episode with crossover SG-1 characters. While the scale is not strict, the feeling depends on the relative importance of SGA versus other characters.

I can totally imagine them writing the first movie with as much crossover as in "First Contact", and I don't like that. :(

Fair enough. I personally felt that Daniel was pretty much wallpaper in First Contact. And in Midway and The Return, I thought that Atlantis was the main focus and was far more important than the relatively minor crossover elements. But, you have the right to feel differently.

Still, they're marketing this as an Atlantis movie. I don't think we need to worry that they will ignore the Atlantis characters or storylines.

[kymeric]

Any Michael story is going to have to star Carson and Teyla. Carson and Michael LITERALLY created eachother and are arch nemisi. And any Michael storys gonna have Teyla cause her son is his holy grail.

Michael movie plz.

[Browncoat1984]

I think that if they off any Atlantis villains, they should get more than just one movie. They've proved that the movies sell well enough now that they can plan ahead...Continuum and Ark of Truth were great, but if every villain is offed in just ONE movie, then that format will get real old, real quick. How about a Duology or Trilogy of movies, shot together (ala Lord of the Rings or Back to the Future Parts 2 and 3) that deal with Michael?

[SGFerrit]

I like Michael, but I think his storyline is coming to an end. Personally, I think it should be wrapped in The Prodigal. And I really can't see them giving him a trilogy.

[Lyconia]

I like Michael, but I think his storyline is coming to an end. Personally, I think it should be wrapped in The Prodigal. And I really can't see them giving him a trilogy.

I can't see them giving him a movie either , Imo i think they have taken it too far already and yes i agree Prodigal would be a good ep to wrap it all up.

[jelgate]

Every enemy has a beginning and an end. Mike has reached his end.

[Platschu]

I like his necromancer type attitude (gene experiments, labs, minions). I wish he deserves an own Atlantis DVD movie, but now I would be happy, if I could hear news about an officially ordered second Atlantis movie. :o

[LostCityGuardian]

To NZ. We have trees, Mountains and Cows. And some people. And it's cheap.

I would love that. And with the dollar getting below US$0.60 recently its getting cheaper all the time. I'll stop dreaming now.

[spinny magee]

Nah Michael will die in the upcoming season 5 episode "The Prodigal" look at the pictures for the Episode you can see why I think he is soooo DEAD

[naamiaiset]

I like Michael, but I think his storyline is coming to an end. Personally, I think it should be wrapped in The Prodigal. And I really can't see them giving him a trilogy.
I agree.

[stevencastelein]

mikey can't die, i wanna see him beat up ronon first :p

[jelgate]

^Atlantis isn't a fantasy show:P

[silly sally]

^Atlantis isn't a fantasy show:P

Yet :P

[jenks]

They're walking a fine line, souls and life force indeed...:rolleyes:

[unstablevortex]

According to recent news there's a 2 hour Atlantis movie in the works. Thoughts? Expectations?

Discuss.

Jackson & Carter make a discovery that sends them to Atlantis, that might eliminate the Wraith threat once and for all. Once there, they along with the Atlantis team find clues to a planet where Janus had a secret lab and device. Though designed for another purpose, it has the potential to be reprogrammed to stop the Wraith. When the machine is activated, they find there is no way to stop it. The only person who can repair it now is Janus himself. But Janus is dead killing the Ori. He is still alive in the past, specifically Earth during the reign of King Arthur. A prototype time travel device exists in this location as well which they adapt to send them back into Arthurian legend, where they must find Janus, convince him of who they are and what they need. Circumstances trap them in this time period which they must survive to return to the future to disable the device. Finally they return and disable the device, which has dealt the Wraith a devastating blow.

What I like about this story is that it ties the ancients together with their return to Earth and a time travel story that puts our team in the same environment Janus lived, giving us a different kind of action than we've seen before and a look at how the mythology developed around the Asgard and the ancients, perhaps even the Furlings.

[Liam Kincaid]

I don't know whether this would technically be considered an SGA movie or an SG-1 movie, but I would love to see a movie where we help the Pegasus Asgard re-colonize the Ida galaxy (now that the Replicators are gone!). In return for our help, they could provide some of their new improved clones for us to download the consciousness of Thor and his friends into.

Maybe even the Doctor Beckett clone could use some of Michael's research to solve the Asgard's cloning problem. Now that would be ironic.

[Jumper_One]

And, oh yeah, there’s also that SGA script that needs to be written…
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/october-12-2008-ratings-and-travel-plans/

[Trig]

I don't know whether this would technically be considered an SGA movie or an SG-1 movie, but I would love to see a movie where we help the Pegasus Asgard re-colonize the Ida galaxy (now that the Replicators are gone!). In return for our help, they could provide some of their new improved clones for us to download the consciousness of Thor and his friends into.

Maybe even the Doctor Beckett clone could use some of Michael's research to solve the Asgard's cloning problem. Now that would be ironic.

Maybe Michael has already found an abandoned PG Asgard base, hence his knowledge and interest in cloning.

I dont think we'll be giving the PG Asgard access to any of the MW Asgard tech anytime soon, yeah so maybe we'll tell them the wars over and "help" them get back on there feet over in Ida but to give them access to 10,000 years worth of stuff just like that could put us in the same place as the Tolans, and most certainly would be letting the MW Asgard legacy down.

As for downloading the consciousness of Thor and the rest of the MW Asgard, I dont think they exist anywhere anymore, they gave us 1 Asgard core in Unending and I'm guessing even with all the storage space there wouldnt be enough space for them, what with it holding all there knowledge etc, the best we could hope for as far as getting any of the MW Asgard back would be to "create" a consciousness from the MW Asgard "help" hologram installed with the core, then we could get into the whole "more than his programming" thing we got in Trek with Data and the EMH, could be a very slippery slope...

[Awesomex2]

This would have probably worked better as an episode, but, whatever.

This is just a Quick overview, if people like it I can write more:


The Atlantis team gets captured by a bounty hunter from the milky way galaxy, who has captured them for the trust. On the way back (the bounty hunter is using a stolen Ancient engine), they come across a massive space station (like death star, in size, not design), the bounty hunter makes the mistake of landing on the space station and leaving the team alone. They break out, but as soon as they get out of the ship they find the bounty hunter dead of unknown causes. (Long Story Short) They find out that the station is run by a group of paranoid, senile ancients who have survived out here in the void for eons. And the team is stuck on the station.



Anyone like it?

[Atlantis1]

Will the SGA movie be straight to dvd or will it be aired on tv?

[mellow yellow]

I think DVD

[Col. Frank Simmons]

Sounds like a good idea for an episode but i don't think the story can sustain for a whole movie. And the bounty idea sounds similar to the SG1 episode Deadman Switch

[jelgate]

TV first and then probably DVD

[Jumper_One]

TV first and they probably DVD

yup