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    why is it that even though you have shields, your ships still manages to take damage. i mean like when the deadalus is under fire from a hive, you see sparks flying and explosions happening, but shouldnt the shields protect you from any damage? i mean i would imagine shields to be like atlantises shields were when they were under fire from the wraith, even though they were different from asgard shields, shouldnt ours have the same effect as long as their up. there wasnt any sparks or explosions because atlantises shields were protecting them. thats how the deadaluses shields should be. the only thing that should really happen is the ship shakes and the shields get depleted a little each blast but i think its weird that even when you have shields, you still take major damage.
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    The Daedalus in Siege took hits from 10 hiveships (2 were destroyed). The shields failed so the fire hit the hull. Even in Star Trek the shields can fail and the ship takes damage.
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      #3
      Originally posted by stargater1990 View Post
      why is it that even though you have shields, your ships still manages to take damage. i mean like when the deadalus is under fire from a hive, you see sparks flying and explosions happening, but shouldnt the shields protect you from any damage? i mean i would imagine shields to be like atlantises shields were when they were under fire from the wraith, even though they were different from asgard shields, shouldnt ours have the same effect as long as their up. there wasnt any sparks or explosions because atlantises shields were protecting them. thats how the deadaluses shields should be. the only thing that should really happen is the ship shakes and the shields get depleted a little each blast but i think its weird that even when you have shields, you still take major damage.
      Same old answer...the stupid writers.

      They think sparks on the bridge(a la star trek) make things more dramatic. There is no technical reason for this. Shields will protect you as long as they're up. Also, there aren't any vital systems on the bridge that would spark out. It's not like you have a main power conduit running through there that will overload(which would be a big bang).

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        #4
        Originally posted by Aer'ki View Post
        Same old answer...the stupid writers.

        They think sparks on the bridge(a la star trek) make things more dramatic. There is no technical reason for this. Shields will protect you as long as they're up. Also, there aren't any vital systems on the bridge that would spark out. It's not like you have a main power conduit running through there that will overload(which would be a big bang).

        It's all about the incompetent writers.
        Not necessareley, It depends on how shields work.

        From what we have seen ship shields work in a totally different way to Atlantis' shields.

        They are 100% effective when they are fully charged but after taking damage they degrade and become less effective just like any armour.
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          #5
          Well they all work in some way like Atlantis one. In Revelations, the Goa'uld ship only shocked when hit. Also there were no spark when an Asgard ship was hit in Small Victories. Also there were no sparks in Lifeline and other occasions. It is just a writers mistake, sparks should only appear when the shields are near failing.

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            #6
            Originally posted by EternalAlteran View Post
            Well they all work in some way like Atlantis one. In Revelations, the Goa'uld ship only shocked when hit. Also there were no spark when an Asgard ship was hit in Small Victories. Also there were no sparks in Lifeline and other occasions. It is just a writers mistake, sparks should only appear when the shields are near failing.
            Well, as far as I was aware Atlantis' shields run straight off the ZPM whereas 'normal' shields run off a buffer. So no, they don't work in the same way.
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              #7
              Originally posted by titan_hq View Post
              Well, as far as I was aware Atlantis' shields run straight off the ZPM whereas 'normal' shields run off a buffer. So no, they don't work in the same way.
              They do, it's just a diference in the efectivness of the power source.

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                #8
                Crazy Tom
                Originally Posted by titan_hq View Post
                Well, as far as I was aware Atlantis' shields run straight off the ZPM whereas 'normal' shields run off a buffer. So no, they don't work in the same way.

                They do, it's just a diference in the efectivness of the power source.
                crazy tom is right. Atlantis runs directly off the zpm so as long as there is power there is a shield. other ships including the Asgard shields, run off of a buffer, as the shields take damage from fire, that buffer gets depleted. it is not an effectiveness in the power source, it is the way the shields work.

                also, excluding Atlantis's shield, when a ships shield takes damage, the percentage drops depending how much power is left in the buffer before they have to recharge the shields, so let say in the show when they say the shields are at 50%, that means the shields are only operating at 50% of there effectiveness which means that 50% of the force applied to the shield can't be held back so some of the force bleeds through

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by apollo22 View Post
                  crazy tom is right. Atlantis runs directly off the zpm so as long as there is power there is a shield. other ships including the Asgard shields, run off of a buffer, as the shields take damage from fire, that buffer gets depleted. it is not an effectiveness in the power source, it is the way the shields work.

                  also, excluding Atlantis's shield, when a ships shield takes damage, the percentage drops depending how much power is left in the buffer before they have to recharge the shields, so let say in the show when they say the shields are at 50%, that means the shields are only operating at 50% of there effectiveness which means that 50% of the force applied to the shield can't be held back so some of the force bleeds through
                  Not true. AOT...Odyssey was getting hammered by the Ori motherships, but if half of their attack got through, even once, it would be enough to destroy the ship.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Aer'ki View Post
                    Not true. AOT...Odyssey was getting hammered by the Ori motherships, but if half of their attack got through, even once, it would be enough to destroy the ship.
                    Atlantis has a powerful enough power source to comepletly cancel out incoming energy wepons.Ships make due with a partial version that takes of part of the blast and teh rest is absorbed by armor, this elongates battle endurance.

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                      #11
                      Atlantis's shields do seem to work differently from the others. Where as the others are bouncier for lack of a better term, the Atlantis shields are more like a wall similar to the shield Hathor used in her base. Also, don't forget that since the shields are directly connected to the ship itself, it transfers inertial force except Atlantis's. Like if you're sitting on a pipe and someone hit the other end hard, it ripples down. Remember Newton's famous 3rd law? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, the shields have to exert force on the incoming force in order to stop it.
                      As for the sparks, well every thing is tied together on a ship, and it has to dissipate. So why not the bridge and engineering where there'll be the greatest concentration of conductors (unless they run a fiber optic network of some sorts, but there's still power) so more energy can get transferred to them and spark and blow out whatever buffers prevent the consoles from blowing out.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Aer'ki View Post
                        Not true. AOT...Odyssey was getting hammered by the Ori motherships, but if half of their attack got through, even once, it would be enough to destroy the ship.

                        actually it does start to get through. if you watch towards when they start to get control back from the replicators, some of the ori blasts do start to bleed through but the beam get dissipated over the entire ship and doesn't stay in its beam form. and if you haven't forgotten, the shields on the oddesey are much stronger than the Daedalus because the generator and buffers are being powered by a zpm so the generator can charge the buffer faster than an inferior generator because of the massive amounts of power that it is capable of giving. here is the pic with the beam getting through the shield.

                        http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/alb...vie02_2165.JPG

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                          #13
                          It's an impact thing.

                          Atlantis is huge and the shield is actually much larger than any other vessel (304s, ancient and goauld ships) can produce.
                          It doesn't have anything to do with the way in which that power is stored and it's more likely down to the fact that more power has to be given to the emitors to mantain the field.
                          I'm sure if you were standing next to one of Atlantis's 10 shield emitors then you would see something similar, but you never get to see that coz it's not where the actions taking place, the control room on atlantis is as far from weapon fire as you could possibly be, but on a ship you're almost sitting on top of it so you're gonna feel the impact.

                          I'm sure that Atlantis's piers take a lot of the force from weapons fire.
                          Last edited by Rise Of The Phoenix; 17 September 2008, 12:38 AM.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Aer'ki View Post
                            Same old answer...the stupid writers.

                            They think sparks on the bridge(a la star trek) make things more dramatic. There is no technical reason for this. Shields will protect you as long as they're up. Also, there aren't any vital systems on the bridge that would spark out. It's not like you have a main power conduit running through there that will overload(which would be a big bang).

                            It's all about the incompetent writers.

                            The Sparks caused when circuits loosed its contacts with its terminals.

                            Becuase the Electrical and Electronic equipment in that ship are substandard. And will catch fire if it was shaken violently.

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                              #15
                              All shields work the same, they all use some sort of battery as a buffer. Atlantis uses ZPMs, which are essentially giant batteries, that cannot be recharged. Also Atlantis has some system that prevent the sparks effect. Possibly the Asgard and other races have them too.

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