Will/should the Furlings feature in SGU ?

[bentdog]

I think they will show the ferlings in STU. What do you you guys think?

[lunarleviathan]

I hope not, that would ruin the joke.

[Dimbo_Sama]

I hope not. I like the idea that unlike the Ancients or the Asgard or the Nox they just died out.

Like, there's an Air of that when the mention them in Paradise Lost. It seems cool to have this race that helped shape the galaxy millions of years ago but died out and didn't ascend or clone themselves or anything.

[jelgate]

Never going to happen

[Miroslav]

Never going to happen

Never say never. :D I think that TBTB keep Furlings, Stargate disclosure and stuff like that for Stargate SG-1 movies. :)

[jelgate]

I'll say never because their an SG1 race and TPTB have stated many times they regret creating them. They will show up after I win the lottery.

[Jumper_One]

nope I don't think so

[jrd231]

You could NEVER have first contact with the Furlings without Jack O'Neill. Two L's.

[jimv1983]

We know of the Four Great Races - Ancients, Asgard, Nox, and Furling.

What we know: The Asgard were from another galaxy. The gate seeding ship then the destiny were sent to seed the universe with stargates.

What we don't know: How far apart were the seeding ship and destiny. If the Nox and Furling are from the Milky way galaxy.

Here is my theory.

Millions of years ago the gate seeder seeded Ida with gates.
Sometime in the last 30,000 years the Asgard discovered the gate.

What I'm wondering is did the same thing happen for the Nox and/or Furling.

It is quite possible that the Nox and Furling discovered the gates and have still not yet been visited by the Destiny.

This could mean that we could see the homeworld of the Nox and finally meet the Furling and maybe even see more of the Asgard galaxy.

[unluckynumber11]

We know of the Four Great Races - Ancients, Asgard, Nox, and Furling.

What we know: The Asgard were from another galaxy. The gate seeding ship then the destiny were sent to seed the universe with stargates.

What we don't know: How far apart were the seeding ship and destiny. If the Nox and Furling are from the Milky way galaxy.

Here is my theory.

Millions of years ago the gate seeder seeded Ida with gates.
Sometime in the last 30,000 years the Asgard discovered the gate.

What I'm wondering is did the same thing happen for the Nox and/or Furling.

It is quite possible that the Nox and Furling discovered the gates and have still not yet been visited by the Destiny.

This could mean that we could see the homeworld of the Nox and finally meet the Furling and maybe even see more of the Asgard galaxy.

1. we already saw the nox homeworld.
2. they won't have the furling in sgu

[Infinatus]

If the Furlings appear it will likely be yet again in a comic episode. ;)

[_Famrir_]

yes

[Major_Griff]

I too like the idea of them remaining a mystery. The ancients were so much cooler when we hardly knew anything about them, imo. And that's not really a slight on the direction tptb took their story, its just cool and realistic to have these grand mysteries in life. I'd like it if they explored them more in a Paradise Lost kind of way where we just get a small slice of their tech/liefestyle, but nothing major.

[Infinatus]

Robert C. Cooper regrets even creating the Furlings so we will definitely never see them. Though Paradise Lost seemed to suggest they were wiped out by the Goa'uld.

[-PITBULL-]

As i feel about the Furling's is this ..

They created the Furling's and they should show something about the Furling's in some way ... As for the TIMELINE , Well i see it going this way ..

Earth over 50 Million Years ago , the Ancients found a settlement on a blue planet where they might have started work on creating a new world for them selfs . Know that they could travel from Planet to Planet within there new galaxy , they went out traveling to find out they weren't the only ones out here in this galaxy ...

They might have first found the Nox's , a Peaceful race that might not have been as advanced in technology but did know the way to enlightenment , Witch the Ancients might have wanted to learn ..

With in this timeline they might have been PLACING STARGATES on these world one by one , a Hands on Job at the time . This could have take years to do , or could have take a few months seeing how the ancients knew there stuff ..

Once most of the Planets where seeded with STARGATES in the MW Galaxy , the ancients might have wanted to take there Journey to other galaxies . Look out there they might have noticed a few CLOSER galaxies to start out with , Ida galaxy and maybe another one ( Who knows this is my theory on it ) Reaching these other galaxy first before setting out to the ida galaxy , they might have found a NEW race here , the FURLING's .

This new race might have been the first race they might have came across that was as advanced as they where , and might have had new technology to share . Over the time they could have been helping out with Seeding the Furling galaxy with STARGATES . Learning from each other , and stuff . This would have also made a new Alliance with the Ancients and the Nox's ...

Taking a break from seeding galaxies with STARGATES , they might have started there new Alliance with trade with the Furling's and Nox's . After a while the Ancients might have started up there Seeding again . Now looking back to the ida galaxy . Taking the trip there and seeding this galaxy the might have found a young human like race called the Asgard's .

At first the Ancients might have look at the Asgards as primitive Aliens , but knew they had great chance at learning new ways and technology . The ancients might have started teaching the Asgards about traveling there the stargate , and had them help out with seeding there galaxy as well . Once done they might have also told them about other races they have come across in other galaxies ( Nox's and Furling's ) . Bring the Asgard's into this new Alliance , as well as the youngest race in the alliance ..

Over the years the Ancients where go planet to planet in the MW galaxy finding new things out , and might have came across a new VIRUS that they couldn't figure out , by the time they learned about this Virus it could have been to late for anyone to stop it ( AIDS kind of Virus , but airborn ) . The only way to kill off this VIRUS was to stop it cold . Travel to a new Galaxy and kill off everything about the Virus ...

This could have made it where they Ancient instead of KILLING off all LIFE , they killed off all ANCIENT LIFE ( Meaning setting the DAKARA SUPER-WEAPON ) . The Nox's where safe as well as the Furling's that come to the MW Galaxy ...

As they left 50 million years ago , the last of the Ancients in the MW galaxy might have set off the device . While the one's that weren't infected by the VIRUS left for the Pegasus galaxy ... This is where the Ancients might have not stayed in contact with the other great races .

Over time the 3 remaining races might have stop talking with each other , and as it goes ...

NOX's - Keeping to there selfs and staying out of fights with everyone ...

Furling's - Keeping with the technology they might have been a victim of there own technology and killed there selfs , making it where that other Furling's might have wanted to stay in there own galaxy ..

Asgards - Being the YOUNGEST of the races , they might have been on there own quest to learn more , and started to do there own thing , learning from the Ancients and the Furlings . The asgards might have thought it was best to stay in the MW galaxy to watch over incase the Ancients came back for some reason ..

10'000 Years ago on earth , when the Ancient returned to the MW Galaxy .

This would have been the time when the Ancients got back , and instead of going to there FRIENDS . Asgards , Furlings and Noxs they might have thought it was best to stay out of the way ...

Now with in this timeline i would say that the Ancients might have started seeding other galaxies after they SEEDED the Ida galaxy . Seeing that it takes time for them to create STARGATES one at a time , they might and found it easier to create a machine to do it for them . But they had to replace or mod the First Gen STARGATES with a 9th chevron to connect to there new SHIP from anywhere in any galaxy ..

[sg1adam]

I don't understand why he would regret creating the idea of them at all. the four great races alliance was great idea, it's just a shame that they writer etc... didn't follow up on some of the plot holes within the SG episodes etc...

[jimv1983]

1. we already saw the nox homeworld.
2. they won't have the furling in sgu

From the population of Nox we saw I don't think it was their home world. They had the few people on the ground and the floating cloaked city. Think it was just a colonized world.


Robert C. Cooper regrets even creating the Furlings so we will definitely never see them. Though Paradise Lost seemed to suggest they were wiped out by the Goa'uld.

Again Paradise Lost should that a colony of the Furling was wiped out. I don't think that was their home world.

[unluckynumber11]

From the population of Nox we saw I don't think it was their home world. They had the few people on the ground and the floating cloaked city. Think it was just a colonized world.



Again Paradise Lost should that a colony of the Furling was wiped out. I don't think that was their home world.

and where are you getting your info from? how do you know that those aren't homeworlds, just because you say they aren't doesn't make it true.

[Character]

and where are you getting your info from? how do you know that those aren't homeworlds, just because you say they aren't doesn't make it true.

For the nox, it probably was their homeworld, just that they tend to stay invissible so we didnt see many of em.

As for the paradise lost, it was said in the episode, that it was supposed to be some low tech sanctury, so certainly not the homeworld, probably not even a normal colony.

[Jack_Bauer]

and where are you getting your info from? how do you know that those aren't homeworlds, just because you say they aren't doesn't make it true.

OH, because you saying that they were their homeworld makes it absolutely 100% true, just because you said it?

Take a step back and think about it, the planet on Paradise Lost was void of any structures, technology (besides the doorway), or ruins...... yeah that really makes it look like it was their homeworld! (that was sarcasm)

and the Nox, thats probs a little more plausible to be thier homeworld, yet i don't buy it, cos we barely saw any Nox on the ground, if it wa theri home planet, do we really accept that these nature loving hippies had their entire population in a floating city....?

[Capricorn_One]

they can always say tht the furlings changed thier name to something else look at the Ancients its was 1st Alterans then Ancients then Atlanteans/Lanteans then back to Ancients.

[jrd231]

OH, because you saying that they were their homeworld makes it absolutely 100% true, just because you said it?

Take a step back and think about it, the planet on Paradise Lost was void of any structures, technology (besides the doorway), or ruins...... yeah that really makes it look like it was their homeworld! (that was sarcasm)

and the Nox, thats probs a little more plausible to be thier homeworld, yet i don't buy it, cos we barely saw any Nox on the ground, if it wa theri home planet, do we really accept that these nature loving hippies had their entire population in a floating city....?

Well, there has been absolutely nothing to indicate the Nox came from or live on any other world. The only place we have ever known them to live is on that one planet. We can only go by what is said or seen on the show, so every single bit of evidence we have points to the the planet SG1 visited being the Nox homeworld. Whether or not you buy that doesn't change that fact.

[Jack_Bauer]

Well, there has been absolutely nothing to indicate the Nox came from or live on any other world. The only place we have ever known them to live is on that one planet. We can only go by what is said or seen on the show, so every single bit of evidence we have points to the the planet SG1 visited being the Nox homeworld. Whether or not you buy that doesn't change that fact.

Was i trying to change a fact? No.

I was imply stating my opinion and gave my reasons. We can only go by what is stated on the show, and it was never stated that that was their Homeworld. Ffs we know next to nothing about the Nox

[unluckynumber11]

OH, because you saying that they were their homeworld makes it absolutely 100% true, just because you said it?

Take a step back and think about it, the planet on Paradise Lost was void of any structures, technology (besides the doorway), or ruins...... yeah that really makes it look like it was their homeworld! (that was sarcasm)

and the Nox, thats probs a little more plausible to be thier homeworld, yet i don't buy it, cos we barely saw any Nox on the ground, if it wa theri home planet, do we really accept that these nature loving hippies had their entire population in a floating city....?

I never said it was their homeworld, look again, i know the paridise lost planet was probably not the furlings' homeworld but whose to say it isn't, and same for the nox world, we only saw a little bit of the world so whose to say there couldn't be more? I don't know if either are homeworlds and nither does anybody else so stop basing opinion on fact!

[Character]

and the Nox, thats probs a little more plausible to be thier homeworld, yet i don't buy it, cos we barely saw any Nox on the ground, if it wa theri home planet, do we really accept that these nature loving hippies had their entire population in a floating city....?

Well if SG-1 wouldnt have got shot, we wouldnt have seen any of them. tealc meantioned the planet as a site were gould go to hunt the invisible birds to master cloacking tech, so apparently the nox dont show themselves unless absolutely neccesary. And the city was meant to be a demostration theat they dont need our help/protection, they might have hundreds of such cities floating around, since apparently they stay cloaked.

[Moao]

IMO we saw the furling at the start of 200, small furry creatures that hit their consoles when they don't work.

[thekillman]

look we never ever ever ever ever EVER ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER gonna see the furlings in stargate [real deal]. why? because no matter how awesome, they'll never live up to expectations. EVER.

[Character]

why? because no matter how awesome, they'll never live up to expectations. EVER.

No, they wont, but so many fans want it, so the way sci fi is going, they may make a movie about the furlings just for the money, regardles of how good it actualy would be.

[markaudette]

Here's how we should incorporate the Furlings into S:U -

The team have been partnering with some benevolent aliens for an entire episode. The ship is about to beam everyone up against their will when the aliens say: "We are the Furlings and we wish you peace." The team all look at themselves and are beamed up in mid-sentence. The Furlings, standing there in deafening silence, all look at each other with that WTF? look, shrug and walk away.

...back on the ship:

Guy: "Do youknow who that was??"

Woman: "Yeah. We all heard. It was the Furlings."

Guy: "Yeah! The freaking Furlings. One of the four great races Thor told General O'Neill about!"

Woman: "Yeah. So?"

Guy: "SOOO?? SO? There are people back on Earth who would have died to have met the Furlings. I mean, up 'til now they've been a myth. No one has had contact with them for eons. And now, US, way out here on the outer edge of nowhere, we get to meet them."

[jimv1983]

they can always say tht the furlings changed thier name to something else look at the Ancients its was 1st Alterans then Ancients then Atlanteans/Lanteans then back to Ancients.

They were the Alterans all the way until they left for Pegasus. Once they got to Pegasus they called themselves Lanteans much like someone from France in French or someone from America is American they are all still human. Lantean is more of a nationality than a species. It was only when they came back from Pegasus 10,000 years ago that they called themselves the Ancients. I think they may have do this is reference to them being far more advanced and living their last days as a species. They were a very old and "Ancient" race.

[starfox]

*headdesk*

Dudes.

Rob Cooper has already said we are not going to see the Furlings. "200" was it.

Just let it go already.

[Capricorn_One]

They were the Alterans all the way until they left for Pegasus. Once they got to Pegasus they called themselves Lanteans much like someone from France in French or someone from America is American they are all still human. Lantean is more of a nationality than a species. It was only when they came back from Pegasus 10,000 years ago that they called themselves the Ancients. I think they may have do this is reference to them being far more advanced and living their last days as a species. They were a very old and "Ancient" race.

No, they were Alterans => Ancients => Atlanteans/Lanteans then back to Ancients.

[jenks]

*headdesk*

Dudes.

Rob Cooper has already said we are not going to see the Furlings. "200" was it.

Just let it go already.

http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=8837457&postcount=4

[jimv1983]

No, they were Alterans => Ancients => Atlanteans/Lanteans then back to Ancients.

Please tell me where you heard this. What episode? It has to be before we know they went to Pegasus. The only time I can remember them being called the Ancients in writing was in the Fifth Race when Jack read the text from the repository of knowledge. The repository of knowledge was created after they came back from Pegasus. Why would the ancients create a collection of everything they knew unless they knew their species was at its end causing the repository to be incomplete.

[starfox]

http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=8837457&postcount=4

Stargate Worlds =/= Stargate Universe

Cooper probably gave them free license to do Furlings so he wouldn't have to deal with it.

[jrd231]

Was i trying to change a fact? No.

I was imply stating my opinion and gave my reasons. We can only go by what is stated on the show, and it was never stated that that was their Homeworld. Ffs we know next to nothing about the Nox

It is 100% more likely that the world SG1 first encountered the Nox on is their homeworld than some other world. Why? Because that's the ONLY world we have EVER seen them living on and there has never ever been any mention of the Nox ever living anywhere else.

People here like to think it'd be cooler if there were more to something in Stargate than there actually is, so they just make things up and refuse to believe that there isn't anything else to the Nox than that one world.

[Character]

Stargate Worlds =/= Stargate Universe

Cooper probably gave them free license to do Furlings so he wouldn't have to deal with it.

Actualy, its been stated amny times that the SG creators (writers/producers, dont know which exacly) are working closely with SG worlds and that everything in SG worlds will be consistent and cannon to SG verse.

[Gollumpus]

I could do without the Furlings being in SGU, other than in some sort of 200th episode type thing.

regards,
G.

[starfox]

Actualy, its been stated amny times that the SG creators (writers/producers, dont know which exacly) are working closely with SG worlds and that everything in SG worlds will be consistent and cannon to SG verse.

I meant SGU the show, not "universe" as in part of the Stargate franchise.

[Jack_Bauer]

It is 100% more likely that the world SG1 first encountered the Nox on is their homeworld than some other world. Why? Because that's the ONLY world we have EVER seen them living on and there has never ever been any mention of the Nox ever living anywhere else.

People here like to think it'd be cooler if there were more to something in Stargate than there actually is, so they just make things up and refuse to believe that there isn't anything else to the Nox than that one world.

R u daft? seriously, are you? The NOX can cloak themselves, we (or any other race for that mater) would only see them if they wanted us to see them. That is not something I 'made up' for the purposes of 'making it cooler'.

Think of it like this, we havn't even explored all the gates in the MW yet, for all we know, the NOX, who were part of the great alliance, could be on numerous planets CLOAKED. I'm not saying they 100% are, i'm saying it's possible.

[Rhodan]

I don't understand why he would regret creating the idea of them at all. the four great races alliance was great idea, it's just a shame that they writer etc... didn't follow up on some of the plot holes within the SG episodes etc...

I think that it´s simply becouse the name was seen as ridiculous among the writers. And considering that very idea of the Alliance started to be less or more irrelevant in the story arc, they saw our desire to meet them just as source of anti-fanboyish jokes as we likely remember.

[leeman15251]

They should put the Furlings in a movie. It may help raise sales.

[MrMann101]

I have read alot about Universe here at Gateworld and at other websites.

It got me thinking, because we never saw the Ferlings in either SG-1 or Atlantis(thanks to the idiots at SCI-FI for cancelling them both) maybe they could appear in Universe.

TPTB say that the Ferlings may appear in a futre SG-1 or Atlantis movie,but I personelly think that they are too big a concept in the Stargate franchise to be blown off in a 2 hour movie.

Its just an idea but I think it would add something more to the new show than just a load of angsty tweens stuck on a ship with an 'old guy' with nothing better to do than go around shooting bad guys.

Its like the scene from 200 all over again!

:daniel::jack::tealc::sam::vala::cameron::jonas::hammond:

:ronan::sheppard::teyla::ford::beckett::weir::mckay:
ITS TOO LATE 4 THEM,BUT NOT TOO LATE 4 US!
SAVE SGA

[KowalRoyale]

Done right, a furling movie could be cool. Honestly I think the furlings just went extinct, it's been so long since "the 4 great races" met that they might have also succumbed to the Ori plague that wiped out the ancients. As far as the next movie goes, I've been waiting since season 1 of Atlantis for a full on Wraith incursion into the Milky Way galaxy that requires both Stargate teams to stop. In the Michael Shanks interview he made a good point, his character (as well as Mitchell) hasn't even met Teyla or Ronan. And I'm not sure Teal'c ever met Teyla either since she was preggo at that point. Anyway totally off topic, back to the furlings, they dead son.

[LostCityGuardian]

There are many Furling threads. Couldn't this have gone in one of those?

Don't even get me started about the rest.

[captain simms]

personally i loved 200 just because it took the piss lol im going to say i would still watch universe even if it ended up lyk <mod snip> ;) and i agree with KowalRoyale that if done ryt the movie could do well however it is hinted in the episode where maybourn and oniell are trapped on a planet that the furlings have been wiped out or could ahve a ascended???????

[Arrakis2013]

I don't mind this topic here. It's actually an interesting point. Maybe the Furlings were killed by the Ori plague and in a desperate move figured out this 9th chevron dialing thing, went to Destiny, couldn't dial their way back and have been seeding life from this ship. It seems like it's some sort of cityship so some may even still be living there. They could be an ally from the get-go of the show.

[nxcalibur]

One, if not THE biggest mystery of Stargate, the Furlings. I say, if they are dead, let them rest in peace. If not, let them be hidden. There are some mysteries in the world that should not be solved.

[spinny magee]

Man there have been a tonne of posts about the Furlings lately...anyone else noticed?

And yes there should be furlings in SGU or the SGA movie or maybe even the SG1 movie that might come.

[josh]

if the furlings dont appear in either sgu or on of the sga or sg1 movie i will be very very sad and dissapointed, almost as dissapointed as the cancellations. its something i definetely think needs to be tied up. either to find the final resting place of the furling or encounter the last of them.. or even a galaxy full of them. i dont care.

i also want the nox to make a reappearance and be forced to act in a way outside of what we saw them in "the nox". sort of have to make a decision where either way their decision will conflict with their morals



no furling and no stargate makes josh go something something

[GateMan2000]

It is Furling not Ferlings :)

[Vertigold]

I think that if they don't show the Furlings ever they should at least tell us their fate.

[quade_1]

I thought that in the fifth race, it was mentioned that the furlings were extinct?? it may not be that episode but for some reason i remember the asgard mentioning that.


would be cool to learn about them though

[chewie2020]

if they d get a showing in a movie or a season i want them to be bad guys from the start. I like to think tht the furlings went of on there own way and now do ont associate with the other power races. Just be nice for a great race to just be evil like the new enemy in atlantis - i like the asgard being bad its more interesting. Its not all star trek federation where a whole race is good and dont do anything bad.

[Col.Ads]

Probably already been done but didnt really check so sorry :P

Ok Destiny is supposidly travelling from planet to planet, and pressumably stopping off at a planet long enough to have a look around it.

Expidition teams go off for a quick took about and find artifacts or technology that are alien and any not encountered before, after finding many simular relics and technology on various planets they finally discover a race of advanced aliens whom they come into conflict with. after escapping them and back aboard the destiny they carry on with the ships route taking them to yet another advanced race of aliens that look the same as the other ones, they reviel themselves as the furlings, and reveal that the furlings are split into 2 factions thousands of years ago and have been at war ever since.

not put too much thought into it but what about the concept of meeting the furlings and them being in dissarray and at war

[FordGuy]

Good idea in concept, but I doubt that the Furlings would be in conflict with each other. Being one of the 4 races (and we being the 5th) I would think they would be past in fighting. Now I know everyone is going to say 'Well what about the Asgard'. Well to that I would say they aren't at war, just a small faction of them disagreed with not testing on humans to solve their problem and left. Every society is going to have 'bad seeds'. I just can't imagine that the Furlings would be at full out war in another galaxy.

Speaking of possible bad guys for SGU...what about the bad guys from 'The Daedalus Varations' episode from Season 5 of SGA. I know they were supposed to be in the Pegasus galaxy that whole time, but maybe in this 'reality' they can be in another galaxy as the bad guys...they seemed like a race of raiders more than anything. They would be a good on going bad guy for SGU.

[bungeeguy245]

no offense, sounds too similar to the ori storyline to me.

[GateFanSamJack]

Maybe they could meet a very old civilization called something else, but the in-joke for SG-1 fans can be to assume they are off-shoots of the Furlings. They just can't use the word "Furlings" again because they already hung a lantern on the confusion the term causes and it would be overkill to hash through all that again.

[Anon]

mmmm, there is a thread to this, before u post go looking in the FOURMS

[ha'tak_]

Probably already been done but didnt really check so sorry :P

Ok Destiny is supposidly travelling from planet to planet, and pressumably stopping off at a planet long enough to have a look around it.

Expidition teams go off for a quick took about and find artifacts or technology that are alien and any not encountered before, after finding many simular relics and technology on various planets they finally discover a race of advanced aliens whom they come into conflict with. after escapping them and back aboard the destiny they carry on with the ships route taking them to yet another advanced race of aliens that look the same as the other ones, they reviel themselves as the furlings, and reveal that the furlings are split into 2 factions thousands of years ago and have been at war ever since.

not put too much thought into it but what about the concept of meeting the furlings and them being in dissarray and at war

i hope that we can meet them in SGU

[Col.Ads]

mmmm, there is a thread to this, before u post go looking in the FOURMS


read the first line of my post before mouthing off

[toby1kanobi]

Good idea in concept, but I doubt that the Furlings would be in conflict with each other. Being one of the 4 races (and we being the 5th) I would think they would be past in fighting. Now I know everyone is going to say 'Well what about the Asgard'. Well to that I would say they aren't at war, just a small faction of them disagreed with not testing on humans to solve their problem and left. Every society is going to have 'bad seeds'. I just can't imagine that the Furlings would be at full out war in another galaxy.

Speaking of possible bad guys for SGU...what about the bad guys from 'The Daedalus Varations' episode from Season 5 of SGA. I know they were supposed to be in the Pegasus galaxy that whole time, but maybe in this 'reality' they can be in another galaxy as the bad guys...they seemed like a race of raiders more than anything. They would be a good on going bad guy for SGU.

the deadalus variation may well have been a set up for these guys to be in Universe, bythe time the show was written the writers were aware SGA was finished so may well have put them in as a suggestion for a new baddie that was the Universe budget is spared the design and development costs for these guys

[Col.Ads]

the deadalus variation may well have been a set up for these guys to be in Universe, bythe time the show was written the writers were aware SGA was finished so may well have put them in as a suggestion for a new baddie that was the Universe budget is spared the design and development costs for these guys


about the Aliens in deadalus variations is the alien ship had distinctive markings, I am thinking they are not from Pegasus at all they are from another Galaxy and go around conquering other galaxies and had just moved onto pegasus after conquering a nearby galaxy maybe?

[Murzin]

after like 13 years of this junk, they have got to do something to give us a hint about the damn furlings.

and no, 200 was not it.

[Ganthet Jr.]

about the Aliens in deadalus variations is the alien ship had distinctive markings, I am thinking they are not from Pegasus at all they are from another Galaxy and go around conquering other galaxies and had just moved onto pegasus after conquering a nearby galaxy maybe?

Remember, though, that it was an alternate universe. In this alternate universe, those markings may very well have been common in the Pegasus Galaxy. Perhaps in that universe, the Ancients were never present, and this species ended up dominant.

[Ganthet Jr.]

the deadalus variation may well have been a set up for these guys to be in Universe, bythe time the show was written the writers were aware SGA was finished so may well have put them in as a suggestion for a new baddie that was the Universe budget is spared the design and development costs for these guys

I believe Joseph Mallozzi (or someone) said that this was not the case. Nothing was done in SGA to set up for SGU, as the final season of SGA had been planned out in full before planning on SGU had begun.

[marty2006]

Ocean, Steel cage, You, Locked, No key.

[MechaThor]

the deadalus variation may well have been a set up for these guys to be in Universe, bythe time the show was written the writers were aware SGA was finished so may well have put them in as a suggestion for a new baddie that was the Universe budget is spared the design and development costs for these guys

As Much as I would like to see the Daedalus Variation Aliens again, I hope they are not a main villain in SGU. Mainly because they look to similar to the Wraith, and seem to be very generic to be a "main bad guy". Maybe is SGU dose an Alternative Reality epsiode, maybe they could jump back into that Reality and we find out that them Aliens have also conquered the SGU Galaxy too.

[ha'tak_]

As Much as I would like to see the Daedalus Variation Aliens again, I hope they are not a main villain in SGU. Mainly because they look to similar to the Wraith, and seem to be very generic to be a "main bad guy". Maybe is SGU dose an Alternative Reality epsiode, maybe they could jump back into that Reality and we find out that them Aliens have also conquered the SGU Galaxy too.

I agree and i think thouse guys where just someone we will never meed again

[Lucario]

We have seen the other three races in the show, we have also shown the parts of the three great races in other galaxies so why not it would certainly make SGU a bit more appealing to watch (at least in my opinion). About hearing about the Furlings in season one we have yet to see them in any form except for the joke in episode 200. So why not have the Furlings in SGU?

[Rodney dex]

they said the furling we just something they made up on the spot and there was no thought of ever showing them,they didnt realise there would be such a uproar about them,they said they would never been shown,but can we really trst there word?
i dont its possible they would show them but theres been so much hype for the furlings im afraid they would spoil there presence.

do you really want to see them?
not afraid they wil lspoil the furlings of what we now of them?

[MechaThor]

they said the furling we just something they made up on the spot and there was no thought of ever showing them,they didnt realise there would be such a uproar about them,they said they would never been shown,but can we really trst there word?
i dont its possible they would show them but theres been so much hype for the furlings im afraid they would spoil there presence.

do you really want to see them?
not afraid they wil lspoil the furlings of what we now of them?

I would love to see them, Infact I would rather see them than more Ancients.
As long as they look alien I will be happy no matter what, even if its just One Furling in one epsiode, or a hologram left by a now long dead Furling I will be happy.

'Paradise Lost' is one of my fav Stargate episodes, and it was a Furling based epsiode.

Personally I think the writers should look and notice that the fans want to see the Furlings, rather than only doing what they want to see in the show. Look at the Ausrans, loads of people did not want Human form replicators again, yet they still brought them back, because thats what they thought the fans wanted. How wrong where they? Why is one Furling epsiode such a bad thing to ask for? If its because they don't want to show them as being Advanced Ewoks theres a simple solution, don't show them as Ewoks. Just because its got Fur in the name don't mean thats want they should look like, Its an alien language! For all we know the "Fur" in "FURling" could mean Scales, Feathers or nothing related to their appearance at all.

[Col.Ads]

I would love to see them, Infact I would rather see them than more Ancients.
As long as they look alien I will be happy no matter what, even if its just One Furling in one epsiode, or a hologram left by a now long dead Furling I will be happy.

'Paradise Lost' is one of my fav Stargate episodes, and it was a Furling based epsiode.

Personally I think the writers should look and notice that the fans want to see the Furlings, rather than only doing what they want to see in the show. Look at the Ausrans, loads of people did not want Human form replicators again, yet they still brought them back, because thats what they thought the fans wanted. How wrong where they? Why is one Furling epsiode such a bad thing to ask for? If its because they don't want to show them as being Advanced Ewoks theres a simple solution, don't show them as Ewoks. Just because its got Fur in the name don't mean thats want they should look like, Its an alien language! For all we know the "Fur" in "FURling" could mean Scales, Feathers or nothing related to their appearance at all.

They could be more like Wookies! well maybe not so hairy but maybe humanoid with hairy face/head aswell as body with excess hair on arms and legs (ok maybe a part shaven wookie!!!)

[knowles2]

after like 13 years of this junk, they have got to do something to give us a hint about the damn furlings.

and no, 200 was not it.

Yeah they will give us a hint knowing the writers possible some left over pottery or may be a single tablet with a bit of furling on it.

Just to wind us up, I would not put it past the writers.

[atlantis26]

nah i think that there is no furlìngs because its just an extra thing to make it more interesting

[GateFanSamJack]

Didn't Thor say we'd know 'em when we see 'em?

Weren't the Furlings the travel agents behind that paradise Jack and Maybourne went to? We'd recognize their tech, too (or, at least the SG-1 fans will, not necessarily the new SGU fans).

[PG15]

Furlings for SGU

No (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3slnSih-WQ&feature=related).

[flea247]

i think it would be good to see the furlings, but if they were to look how they did in 200 then i couldnt find them credible. they were funny for 200 in that form but for an actual race in stargate they would have to be less animal like and cute for me to find them believeable.

[Quadhelix]

So why not have the Furlings in SGU? I can give a very simple explanation for that: the Ancients had already encountered the Furlings. In other words, the Furlings existed within the Ancients' sphere of "known space." Stargate: Universe, however, happens so far outside of that sphere that the only connection whatsoever to the Ancients' known space in Universe would be the Destiny, the seeded Stargates, and perhaps seeded human life. The Destiny has been traveling for millions of years. Millions of years of jumping to a new galaxy every few years.

Furlings would be as out of place in Universe as Julias Caesar would be in Star Wars.



They could be more like Wookies! well maybe not so hairy but maybe humanoid with hairy face/head aswell as body with excess hair on arms and legs (ok maybe a part shaven wookie!!!)
Why does everyone seem to assume that the Furlings would actually have fur? Do the Tok'ra smoke bongs (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toker)? Do the Nox have big breasts or large door knobs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Kbyte51MY)? Do the Asgard stand around all day keeping watch over their rear ends (do I really need to explain that one)?

Just because a race's name contains something of homophone for another word does not mean that that race's attributes are in any way related to the other word.

[Ganthet Jr.]

I can give a very simple explanation for that: the Ancients had already encountered the Furlings. In other words, the Furlings existed within the Ancients' sphere of "known space." Stargate: Universe, however, happens so far outside of that sphere that the only connection whatsoever to the Ancients' known space in Universe would be the Destiny, the seeded Stargates, and perhaps seeded human life. The Destiny has been traveling for millions of years. Millions of years of jumping to a new galaxy every few years.

Furlings would be as out of place in Universe as Julias Caesar would be in Star Wars.



Why does everyone seem to assume that the Furlings would actually have fur? Do the Tok'ra smoke bongs (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toker)? Do the Nox have big breasts or large door knobs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Kbyte51MY)? Do the Asgard stand around all day keeping watch over their rear ends (do I really need to explain that one)?

Just because a race's name contains something of homophone for another word does not mean that that race's attributes are in any way related to the other word.


Fantastic point, and that connects to something I bring up on the boards every so often... we assume they're furry because FUR is in Furling. However, if you treat the word Furling like we treat the word Earthlin, then all it could mean is that they are from the planet Furl, which has no physical implications.

[aweeasian]

Good idea in concept, but I doubt that the Furlings would be in conflict with each other. Being one of the 4 races (and we being the 5th) I would think they would be past in fighting. Now I know everyone is going to say 'Well what about the Asgard'. Well to that I would say they aren't at war, just a small faction of them disagreed with not testing on humans to solve their problem and left. Every society is going to have 'bad seeds'. I just can't imagine that the Furlings would be at full out war in another galaxy.

Speaking of possible bad guys for SGU...what about the bad guys from 'The Daedalus Varations' episode from Season 5 of SGA. I know they were supposed to be in the Pegasus galaxy that whole time, but maybe in this 'reality' they can be in another galaxy as the bad guys...they seemed like a race of raiders more than anything. They would be a good on going bad guy for SGU.

Noo waaayyyy Not the Daedalus Variation aliens! That was just a copy of the borg form Star Trek. If the writers made those the prime bad guy I could never watch the show!

[jenks]

They were nothing like the Borg, not from what we saw anyway.

[spinny magee]

I think those Koala-like things that were suppose to be Furlings are the closest we will see to the genuine thing.

[The_Dude]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Not another Furling thread!
*BOOM*

[Blistna]

Well...in my stargate series I'm creating, we have the Furlings in another galactic cluster. I did this because we don't see much Furling tech, only that one planet in that "Paradise Lost" episode. And how many times have we seen ancient ruins or technology? I mean, for one of the great races, we really don't see much of them, do we?

So I think the Furlings were found by the Ancients when they were coming to the Milky Way, and they ran into them and the Asgard...and found the Nox here. To me, that makes the most sense.

[Alan Wake]

None really knows what happened to the furlings. Although they existed in the same "known" space as the ancients, they could have very well left to another part of the universe a long time ago. Which would explain why we have not seen them.

I for one would like to see them in this series. I can almost put my finger on it that we will too. It doesn't matter the fan reaction.

I really think they are running out of ideas for this series... only so many plot lines can be reused. And with fans already nervous about Stargate universe, you can bet they will throw us something big like the Furlings.

The few remaining "open" story lines will likely be touched on in this show.

Noone believe me? Just wait and see.

[Mongoletsi]

Yeah they will give us a hint knowing the writers possible some left over pottery or may be a single tablet with a bit of furling on it.

Just to wind us up, I would not put it past the writers.

That would be brilliant :D

[Major lee adama]

after like 13 years of this junk, they have got to do something to give us a hint about the damn furlings.

and no, 200 was not it.

it would make sense if we haven't seen the furlings in the milky way galaxy and Pegasus they might have moved off so far away it reguaires the ninth chevron

[XxX_Kavan Smith_is_Mine_XxX]

Okay well we know about the 4 great races, 5 if you count us, we have met them all except for the furlings.

So do you think that during the course of SGU the furlings should be explored like the ancients in SGA.


For example should we:

- come across a ship of furlings?

- find furling remains on the destiny?

- have ancient and furling info on the Destinys computer?

- be attacked by the furlings

If so how should they be portrayed?
Nice, mean, funny, arrogant?

Discuss your ideas whatever they may be

[frostwolf]

I wouldn't mind the Destiny stumbling upon a colony of the Furlings. A planet that the Furlings colonized but they lost contact with the Furlings in our galaxy and so were not affected by what ever happened to the ones in our Galaxy. Though I would prefer them to not be small and furry, which means nothing like Ewoks. I could live with very large and Fury though. I always pictured them more like a 12 foot tall feline sasquatch for some reason.

[jelgate]

I don't want to see the Furlings at all. SG1 races in SG1 please

[jenks]

No they shouldn't, and no they won't. If ever there comes a time when they should revisit the Furlings it will be when we stop asking about them, which will be never.

[Quadhelix]

I wouldn't mind the Destiny stumbling upon a colony of the Furlings. I would: as far away from "Ancient space" as the Destiny currently is, the odds of it running across a colony from any Milky Way power (even if that power had a colony that far out) within a human lifetime is about the same as the likelihood of firing a handgun into the air and having the bullet hit, by absolutely pure chance, the mayor of the town that you are in.

The odds of encountering a ship (if it isn't looking for them) are even worse. If the ship is looking for them, then you have to ask why, after millions of years, the Furling ship is reaching the Destiny only once the human explorers have arrived.

In other words, having the Furlings show up on the show would break suspension of disbelief as badly, if not worse, than having the crew find a planet of aliens that look like Howard the Duck, complete with mention that, yeah, wow, these aliens look like Howard the Duck.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Okay well we know about the 4 great races, 5 if you count us, we have met them all except for the furlings.

So do you think that during the course of SGU the furlings should be explored like the ancients in SGA.


For example should we:

- come across a ship of furlings?

- find furling remains on the destiny?

- have ancient and furling info on the Destinys computer?

- be attacked by the furlings

If so how should they be portrayed?
Nice, mean, funny, arrogant?

Discuss your ideas whatever they may be

I think it would be cool and make sense if there was some kind of record of them in the ship.

[Colonel Swede]

But as far as i recall the Destiny was sent out into space LONG.... before the Alliance of the Four Great races was formed. So i don't think the Furlings will be anywhere on the show. And if they are i highly doubt it will become the knowledge of the team...

[Coronach]

But as far as i recall the Destiny was sent out into space LONG.... before the Alliance of the Four Great races was formed. So i don't think the Furlings will be anywhere on the show. And if they are i highly doubt it will become the knowledge of the team...

Just a question for my own knowledge, do we know when the Four Races alliance was formed? Also, when did it end? Bah, the timeline of the Ancients is something I'm so bad with :(

[LostCityGuardian]

Furlings should never be sighted in SGU or any other Stargate for that matter. I liken it to the monster in the horror film - its always scarier when the imagination is given free rein to put together the hints. Same with Furlings - nothing TPTB could do now will satisfy the expectations that fans have (as if anything they do satisfies the expectations of all fans).

[escyos]

i always imagined the furlings as complate opposites of what you expect, like 8 foot tall bipedal lizards with tails and lots of teeth

similar to this but not a god: http://www.elfwood.com/art/j/e/jeffvance/sobek.jpg

[Puddle-Jumper]

I would like a mention of them at least, its somewhat of a big detail to leave out.. Even if it was something as simple as

"Ive been searching through the database, found a reference to a race called the Furlings.."
"Furlings, eh... hmmm I remember SG4 found ruins on that planet, looked to be abandoned for thousands of years, but no apparent reason why"
"Says here they had colonies from Ida to Pegasus and everywhere in between, they could still be out there somewhere.."
"Hopefully, could always use a new ally"

Then a team returns after finding some new supplies or something and thus the episode continues...

[Major_Griff]

I would say yes, but it wouldn't make sense for them to be in the fare side of the universe. The Furlings should reside )or used to reside) in either the Milky Way or a galaxy close like Pegasus or Ida.

[Mclean]

No. Everyone on here always seems to picture them differently and it's interesting reading everyone's thought on the matter. Best to keep everyone guessing as it's one of the biggest Stargate mysteries out there.

[akren]

I would say yes, but it wouldn't make sense for them to be in the fare side of the universe. The Furlings should reside )or used to reside) in either the Milky Way or a galaxy close like Pegasus or Ida.

Hence the reason they will NOT be in SGU (nor should they be - I like the fact some things in SG-1 & SGA are left mysteries or up to the imgaination). Same goes for the Replicators/Asurans. Touching base with SG-1 & SGA is nice, but I want original aliens/plots PLEASE. :mckay:

[Major_Griff]

Hence the reason they will NOT be in SGU (nor should they be - I like the fact some things in SG-1 & SGA are left mysteries or up to the imgaination). Same goes for the Replicators/Asurans. Touching base with SG-1 & SGA is nice, but I want original aliens/plots PLEASE. :mckay:

agreed.

[rob-ward]

i always imagined the furlings as complate opposites of what you expect, like 8 foot tall bipedal lizards with tails and lots of teeth


Thats brilliant, the furlings are the Gorn :-)

PICTURE (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/Gorn2005.jpg)

[Eternal Density]

Not until the season 6 finale. With a cliffhanger.

[kirmit]

I believe the more mystery there is about a race the more interesting they are, so with that in mind, no we should never see them in SGU.

[XxX_Kavan Smith_is_Mine_XxX]

then when?

[lordofseas]

Should they? Maybe.
Will they? Maybe.

I wouldn't want anything about the Furlings except in a flashback. Otherwise, it would just ruin the idea of "new setting, new show, new characters, new allies/enemies" theme that TPTB are trying to get across.

[XxX_Kavan Smith_is_Mine_XxX]

Hmm...flashback is a good idea

[Madwelshboy]

From Craig @ Syfy's Twitter live at the SGU comic con panel:-

Panel question: "Will we ever find out more about the furlongs?" Brad: "No." Robert: "Maybe."

http://twitter.com/Syfy

[Alan Wake]

So most of you guys are opposed to seeing them... but how about us finding references to them throughout the show. But never actually encountering them.

Maybe some ancient ruins or something.

[kymeric]

Furlings shuld be a wingless dragon race that has populations in many galaxies across the universe. They should be technologically advanced and have significant physical powers like shape shifting and mental abilities. They should be like the Titans while the Ancients are like the Greek gods.

They shuld put a good face on reptilian aliens and show not every scaly cold blooded critter is the enemy of human beings. Some dragons were the protectors and teachers to the ancient chinese.

[MechaThor]

Should they? Maybe.
Will they? Maybe.

I wouldn't want anything about the Furlings except in a flashback. Otherwise, it would just ruin the idea of "new setting, new show, new characters, new allies/enemies" theme that TPTB are trying to get across.

That is a great Idea, I would love a Flashback where we actually the the 4 great races communicating and living/working together.

However I doubt we will see it in Universe as I am not even sure if the alliance was set-up when the Destiny was sent off? Had the Asgard even left Ida by then? Remember the Ancients had only just arrived in the Milklyway at this point, they might not have even run into the Nox yet?

Personally I would like the 4th/5th race storyline to be picked back up in the next O'Neill based movie since its a fitting story for him. However for the Furlings to appear in Universe would require too much SG-1 backstory, something they said they would try and limit.

Maybe as a nod to the fans we can see a CGI Furling alien in the background of some Ancient Flashback of the Destiny being lunched, however I doubt it. Which is a real shame.

[rico27]

the furlings also referred as altruso which are advanced race of aliens who were the creators of the quatem mirror and could hide themselves like the knox but even better with the capability of going into other dimensions and creating an enemy far more powerful than the ori and ancients put together, fact is the altruso are more advanced than the ancients and were destroyed by the enemy called zyerso who are 2nd higher level of ascended beings yet to be discovered!!!!

[g.o.d]

the furlings also referred as altruso which are advanced race of aliens who were the creators of the quatem mirror and could hide themselves like the knox but even better with the capability of going into other dimensions and creating an enemy far more powerful than the ori and ancients put together, fact is the altruso are more advanced than the ancients and were destroyed by the enemy called zyerso who are 2nd higher level of ascended beings yet to be discovered!!!!

huh?

[Jack_Bauer]

the furlings also referred as altruso which are advanced race of aliens who were the creators of the quatem mirror and could hide themselves like the knox but even better with the capability of going into other dimensions and creating an enemy far more powerful than the ori and ancients put together, fact is the altruso are more advanced than the ancients and were destroyed by the enemy called zyerso who are 2nd higher level of ascended beings yet to be discovered!!!!

yeah that's pretty much how i had it figured

[Monak]

If you don't want to see um couldn't we at the very least find their decimated planet to seal their fate once and for all...... (with a bunch of kick butt tech laying around for the taking)

[Stormtrooper]

the furlings also referred as altruso which are advanced race of aliens who were the creators of the quatem mirror and could hide themselves like the knox but even better with the capability of going into other dimensions and creating an enemy far more powerful than the ori and ancients put together, fact is the altruso are more advanced than the ancients and were destroyed by the enemy called zyerso who are 2nd higher level of ascended beings yet to be discovered!!!!

There's always a bigger fish :D

[lordofseas]

Well, we know we've seen Furling technology. We could see SGU bringing something of Furling design through the gate with them.

[g.o.d]

There's always a bigger fish :D

I'm sure the reace with this idiotic name must be very angry so they want to kill every other race

[Crrash]

I'd love to see some furling tech inside the destiny, the same way that there is asgard tech inside the daedalus-class ships

but yeah, don't show furlings

[Jack_Bauer]

I reckon the Destiny should have been of Furling design. I'm sick of the Ancients, we already had a show based aboard one of their ships.

[andr3w_iii]

furlings, furlings, furlings would be cool if there had been an actual explanation as to what the hell happened to them, would stop all this wondering still bout them.

[Coremae]

I always thought furlings were part humanoid part tarantula, with technologies which allow them to cloak/phase their spidery hairy portions leaving only a shimmering area just beneath their waist.


in SGU, they probably would have been the dominate species for millions of years in our galaxy, and the ancients met them and saw spider people and freaked out, calling them furlings since then. So we'll probably happen upon massive furling kingdoms who left years before Destiny was launched.

[GeneralGeorgefan]

I hope not. I like the idea that unlike the Ancients or the Asgard or the Nox they just died out.

Like, there's an Air of that when the mention them in Paradise Lost. It seems cool to have this race that helped shape the galaxy millions of years ago but died out and didn't ascend or clone themselves or anything.

I am with ya. It would ruin the mystery surrounding them. The naming suggests a highly non-human race, and I don't think I could stand any more fuzzy little teddy bears running around ala' StarWars :eek:

[lkg1980]

chimps in laytex with cyborg helmets!

[Hive Queen]

I think it would ruin a lot of good fanfic if the furlings appear on SGU:D
My theory is that the giant fog aliens from Crystal Skull are ascended furlings...pretty sure I'll get mobbed for saying that though.

[Captain Obvious]

Here's how we should incorporate the Furlings into S:U -

The team have been partnering with some benevolent aliens for an entire episode. The ship is about to beam everyone up against their will when the aliens say: "We are the Furlings and we wish you peace." The team all look at themselves and are beamed up in mid-sentence. The Furlings, standing there in deafening silence, all look at each other with that WTF? look, shrug and walk away.

...back on the ship:

Guy: "Do youknow who that was??"

Woman: "Yeah. We all heard. It was the Furlings."

Guy: "Yeah! The freaking Furlings. One of the four great races Thor told General O'Neill about!"

Woman: "Yeah. So?"

Guy: "SOOO?? SO? There are people back on Earth who would have died to have met the Furlings. I mean, up 'til now they've been a myth. No one has had contact with them for eons. And now, US, way out here on the outer edge of nowhere, we get to meet them."

Even funnier if they call themselves something different the whole episode, and then at the end the crew said something cute like " well, we are glad to have made the first contact with your race" and they are like " no, you did not, you knew us once as the furlings" it would be like "pwnd"

It really makes MORE sense for them to be in SGU...I mean really, what are the odds of there being ANOTHER sentient humanoid race evolving in the milky way galaxy?

We have Nox, Reitu, Goa'uld, Unas, humans (kinda, seeded by ancients), sentient crystals, sentient water, the lizard race(whose name I forget, from the prison ship), the bounty hunter race (the guys with gungan-like tubes off their head) not to mention anything I have forgotten.

I mean, as far as the Pegasus galaxy, we had Humans (transplanted), Replicators (created), Wraith (accidentally created) and transplant Asgard....did we see any other races that were truly native to the galaxy? I know it is smaller than the MW galaxy, but not by so much that there isn't 1 nonhuman, non transplant sentient race.


I think it would ruin a lot of good fanfic if the furlings appear on SGU:D
My theory is that the giant fog aliens from Crystal Skull are ascended furlings...pretty sure I'll get mobbed for saying that though.

Wouldn't that be a pisser? Or maybe their whole race phased themselves into a different matter phase to hide from the goa'uld.

[lordofseas]

Even funnier if they call themselves something different the whole episode, and then at the end the crew said something cute like " well, we are glad to have made the first contact with your race" and they are like " no, you did not, you knew us once as the furlings" it would be like "pwnd"

It really makes MORE sense for them to be in SGU...I mean really, what are the odds of there being ANOTHER sentient humanoid race evolving in the milky way galaxy?

We have Nox, Reitu, Goa'uld, Unas, humans (kinda, seeded by ancients), sentient crystals, sentient water, the lizard race(whose name I forget, from the prison ship), the bounty hunter race (the guys with gungan-like tubes off their head) not to mention anything I have forgotten.

I mean, as far as the Pegasus galaxy, we had Humans (transplanted), Replicators (created), Wraith (accidentally created) and transplant Asgard....did we see any other races that were truly native to the galaxy? I know it is smaller than the MW galaxy, but not by so much that there isn't 1 nonhuman, non transplant sentient race.



Wouldn't that be a pisser? Or maybe their whole race phased themselves into a different matter phase to hide from the goa'uld.

*sigh* Copouts. You gotta love 'em.

[Zleet]

Maybe find a few abandoned Furling colonies as a source of non-Ancient technology. Would give a bit of variation from the same goa'uld and Ancient technology while giving a nod to those that want more Furling.

[prion]

Please, no furlings, no replicators (god,please, NO MORE REPLICATORS!!!), no Goa'ld or Jaffa or Klingons (just in case they were thinking of it).

[MattSilver 3k]

Please, no furlings, no replicators (god,please, NO MORE REPLICATORS!!!), no Goa'ld or Jaffa or Klingons (just in case they were thinking of it).

Here here!
The Furlings are just a name, and I swear the entire fandom's dependence on knowing who/what they are seems like a large joke I'm left out of.

[Crazedwraith]

Here here!
The Furlings are just a name, and I swear the entire fandom's dependence on knowing who/what they are seems like a large joke I'm left out of.

They are not just a name though.

They're a name that was established as being a species that were on par with the Ancient, Asgards and Nox ie) they were regarded as equals and allies by the most advanced races we've ever seen on Stargate.

[MattSilver 3k]

They are not just a name though.

They're a name that was established as being a species that were on par with the Ancient, Asgards and Nox ie) they were regarded as equals and allies by the most advanced races we've ever seen on Stargate.

Yeah, good point. Still, I'd rather the buggers didn't appear in SGU.

[Crazedwraith]

That's true enough. Them appearing in SU would probably seem very contrived. An SG-1/SGA movie on the other hand....

[reddevil18]

Hell. No.

[Control_Chair]

I mean, as far as the Pegasus galaxy, we had Humans (transplanted), Replicators (created), Wraith (accidentally created) and transplant Asgard....did we see any other races that were truly native to the galaxy? I know it is smaller than the MW galaxy, but not by so much that there isn't 1 nonhuman, non transplant sentient race.
I always thought that was something SGA lacked, an advanced alien race (kinda like the Asgard in principle) that are:-

1) Native to the Pegasus galaxy

2) Extremely technologically advanced (as advanced as the Ancients because of the sharing of technology and ideas in the millions of years of peace time before the war with the wraith).

3) Were allies of the ancients during their war with the wraith, but like the Ancients ultimately lost the war and were forced to retreat into their own solar system and fortify it against wraith attacks.

These aliens could have helped us by having been allies in the fight against the Wraith and used their advanced knowledge and understanding of Ancient technology the help the expedition better understand Atlantis and its technology.

Anyway on the topic of should the Furlings feature in SGU I am going to say no because they are supposed to be a MW based civilisation, however in a SG-1 movie...perhaps?

[Colonel Rebel]

I really want to see the Furlings. If they appear in SGU, I'm fine with that :)

[PG15]

I mean, as far as the Pegasus galaxy, we had Humans (transplanted), Replicators (created), Wraith (accidentally created) and transplant Asgard....did we see any other races that were truly native to the galaxy? I know it is smaller than the MW galaxy, but not by so much that there isn't 1 nonhuman, non transplant sentient race.

There were the Mist Aliens from "Home" and the silicon-based aliens from "Remnants".

[siles]

No, leave them for future Stargate Sg-1 movies

[Lahela]

There were the Mist Aliens from "Home" and the silicon-based aliens from "Remnants".

And the crystal aliens from "Doppelganger" :)

[Ed]

id like to see evidence of them like in paradise lost but not actually meet them i think that would be cool.

[Spimman]

As much as I am curious about the Furlings, they would be better off in and SG-1 or SG-A movie than SGU. The Furlings were a Milky Way, or nearby galaxy major race during the time of the Ancients. It would be odd to see them so far away.

[willkani]

the furlings could of worked with the ancients on the experiment to seed the universe with stargates........maybe?

[prion]

They are not just a name though.

They're a name that was established as being a species that were on par with the Ancient, Asgards and Nox ie) they were regarded as equals and allies by the most advanced races we've ever seen on Stargate.

Still doesn't mean we need to see them. Let's see, the Asgards were offed to rush their technology into human hands, the Nox forgotten, and all the Ancients seem to be meglomaniacs, so no, don't want to see the Furlings. ;)

[Duskofdead]

Still doesn't mean we need to see them. Let's see, the Asgards were offed to rush their technology into human hands

That's an unfair assessment, IMHO. The show established them as a dying race very early on. The reason they died at the exact time they did may have been influenced by the desire of the writers to "push along humanity's development", but this statement acts like they were just summarily and abruptly off'd with no warning. They'd been pushed to the brink already by replicators and repeated overruns of their homeworlds, and by the cloning problems that had been going on for centuries. The former probably exacerbated the latter.

[prion]

That's an unfair assessment, IMHO. The show established them as a dying race very early on. The reason they died at the exact time they did may have been influenced by the desire of the writers to "push along humanity's development", but this statement acts like they were just summarily and abruptly off'd with no warning. They'd been pushed to the brink already by replicators and repeated overruns of their homeworlds, and by the cloning problems that had been going on for centuries. The former probably exacerbated the latter.

Hmm, more like a plot device to move things along, I think. I noticed that virtually every race, etc. created in the Showtime died or was never heard from again...

[Duskofdead]

Hmm, more like a plot device to move things along, I think. I noticed that virtually every race, etc. created in the Showtime died or was never heard from again...

That happens in almost all sci-fi. Out of the literally hundreds of races encountered in Trek only Borg, Cardassians, Romulans, Klingons and Ferengi came up more times than you could count on one hand. If they kept every new discovery relevant then episodes would turn into "Uh oh, we have a problem... let's contact the Tollan, the rebel Jaffa, the Tok'ra, the Nox, the Asgard, the Ancient we encountered on P3X-522, Arlin, send Daniel to contact Oma Desala, send someone to get the Ancient Repository of Knowledge, Bre'tac, ... maybe one of them can help!"

[prion]

That happens in almost all sci-fi. Out of the literally hundreds of races encountered in Trek only Borg, Cardassians, Romulans, Klingons and Ferengi came up more times than you could count on one hand. If they kept every new discovery relevant then episodes would turn into "Uh oh, we have a problem... let's contact the Tollan, the rebel Jaffa, the Tok'ra, the Nox, the Asgard, the Ancient we encountered on P3X-522, Arlin, send Daniel to contact Oma Desala, send someone to get the Ancient Repository of Knowledge, Bre'tac, ... maybe one of them can help!"

No, meant that virtually all alien characters createdin first three years, under original writers, are now gone, toast, ex-aliens ;)

[PG15]

I guess the writers wanted to create some new races. You know, try new things. ;)

[Stormtrooper]

Ummm, so that's why SG writers keep coming up with these Genii, Travelers, Lucians, etc. They're so generic nobody can claim ownership :P

[spinny magee]

NO!!! I prefer them as they were in 200. They are done, end of story.

[Duskofdead]

I guess the writers wanted to create some new races. You know, try new things. ;)

Yeah kinda what I was getting at too. On the one hand you have people listing the races they DON'T want to see in SGU or future SG, and on the other hand people criticizing that characters or races were written out of the story after a certain point. You can't win.

[prion]

I guess the writers wanted to create some new races. You know, try new things. ;)

well, they do create new things (Wraith) then get bored or don't know what to do and fall back on old things (ack, replicators).

but no, let's have our vision of the furlings be the fuzzy things in '200'.

[jelgate]

Yeah kinda what I was getting at too. On the one hand you have people listing the races they DON'T want to see in SGU or future SG, and on the other hand people criticizing that characters or races were written out of the story after a certain point. You can't win.

Exactly.;)

Person A wants the exact opposite of what Person B. Their is no win. Stargate could be the best produced and best written show in the market and people would still loathe TPTB

This thread (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=50575) is true and quite funny at the same time but it is primarly for Atlantis

[Spimman]

Without comparing threads I wonder how many people have said they DO want to see the Furlings but have then commented on the races they don't want to see thread and said they don't want any SG-1 or SG-A races.

Considering how from from our home galaxy we're going to be I prefer new races, and I even prefer for "Alien" races but as long as the show is written well, and I think it will be, than I'll probably enjoy the show no matter what. :D

[Emperor Furling]

:vortex04:
I watch Stargate Universe are awesome ! I consider Furling race remain hiden somewhere uncountless cross Universe. Furlings would never show or on air show ?
:vortex04:

[JackHarkness_Hot]

I really seriously doubt the Furlings will be on SGU. lol

[leeman15251]

I don't think so. I recall of one the creators of Stargate Sg1 (don't remember which one) said he regretted making the Furlings and they would not be in an episode.

[kali1]

I don't think so. I recall of one the creators of Stargate Sg1 (don't remember which one) said he regretted making the Furlings and they would not be in an episode.

Thank god. The Furlings were ridiculous :mckay:

[Confessor Rahl]

Thank god. The Furlings were ridiculous :mckay:

Of course, by ridiculous, you mean ridiculously awesome. I am so glad we agree! :ronan:

[PeteJ]

Thank god. The Furlings were ridiculous :mckay:

Why were they ridiculous? We didn't see them.

[Shootist]

Why were they ridiculous? We didn't see them.

Except, perhaps, as (human?) skulls on the Furling planet O'Neill and Mayborn visited (were stuck on).

[leiasky]

I would love to see the Furlings crop up in SGU as a completely different type of race than we saw in 200. Since 200 wasn't a 'real' episode that happened in the lives of the characters. Nothing that happened in that episode was to be taken seriously.

[tNsRAoL]

Why were they ridiculous? We didn't see them.

Sure we did in "200".

[Confessor Rahl]

Why were they ridiculous? We didn't see them.

Ehhh? Did you watch SG-1?

[Emperor Furling]

:vortex04:
I watch Stargate Universe are awesome ! I consider Furling race remain hiden somewhere uncountless cross Universe. Furlings would never show or on air show ?
:vortex04:

The Furling stay remain greatest mysteries Furling race always, you guys think SGU wouldn't dare create writen the furlings or never happned in SGU would say "not exist the furling in SGU show." Therefore We demand SGU create The Furlings should be in show or not. we will never know in future, The Furling alway greatest mysteries all time ever, no one know what it look like.

[tNsRAoL]

I bet you a month's pay (:P) that they wont appear in SGU. They are trying to turn away from exactly this sort of stuff.

[Confessor Rahl]

I bet you a month's pay (:P) that they wont appear in SGU. They are trying to turn away from exactly this sort of stuff.

Of course they won't be in the show, but it'd be cool if we get to see them again.

[PeteJ]

Ehhh? Did you watch SG-1?
Yes but you obviously didn't?

But if you're thinking about 200, there's no need for further comments.

[Confessor Rahl]

Yes but you obviously didn't?

But if you're thinking about 200, there's no need for further comments.

Actually I was referring to Wormhole X-treme! :cool:

[Encoder]

Yeah I think it was Brad Wright that said that the Furlings were their biggest mistake...

I know that the Asgard jumped to another galaxy, the Ancients went to Pegasus, so it's plausable that the Furlings also went to another galaxy, one that Destiny may have travelled to/will travel to ... hey...it's Sci-fi, anything is possible!

Esp. if Wright wanted to make a sane conclusion from the Furlings bungle, I spose this franchise may be a way to do just that?! :sheppard:

[Emperor Furling]

I agree with Encoder.

[Joben]

Thinking about this the picture I get in my mind is a steamy scene going on then cutting to another scene with an Ewok poking a stick at a tree screaming "YUB-YUB". I don't think the Furlings would work in the show's atmosphere

[Kar'el]

... yes, bring on the ferlings ! I think the ferlings would be welcome relief to whats on now, hah ! . . . . But I'll watch SGU every friday and give it a chance.

[akren]

No & No.

TPTB have stated they will not feature them many times over now (some things are best left a mystery if you ask me! :)) SG:U should be about SG:U. It's about the characters & exploring the unknown reaches of the universe where no HUman being has steped before; not about a long-dead race from the MW which were one-time allies of the Ancients.

[ancient_being]

Well, I've seen every single Stargate episode to date, but as yet, I have never seen the Furlings in there proper form. I mean, if they are indeed apart of the four great races, then why haven't we seen them? Are they perhaps dead as a whole?

I was thinking wither Stargate Universe is going to show them, but seeing as they are moving away at an ever increasing pace from the Millkyway galaxy, I'm guessing we wont be seeing them. Just a thought, what do you's think?

[Arcanum]

Hey people!

I'm new here, so forgive me if I have not read every single post concerning Furlings... I already have a full-time job.

It may have been said elsewhere:

Earthlings are beings from the planet Earth, so Furlings must be beings from the planet Fur.
Earth is called Earth because it is mostly covered by earth, so perhaps Fur is mostly covered by fur... *imagining a planet with natural 'wall-to-wall' fur carpeting*.

Now more onto the topic. To me it seems like a lot of fans want learn more about the Furlings, without ruining the mystery, well here is yet another way of doing it:

SGU characters encounter Furlings, but the Furlings are, for one reason or another, wearing environmental suits. This would give an opportunity to interact with the Furlings and learn about their Tech, culture, etc. without ruining the mystery surround the way they look. Furthermore, they could be very different (non-humanoid) aliens (of course the shape of the environmental suit would give a little away about the shape of their bodies). Aliens who do not speak English, perhaps the only way to communicate with them is through the 'universal' atomic language that was seen by SG1 when they discovered the great alliance of the four races...
Reintroducing this language would also make it possible for the SGU characters to communicate with non English speaking aliens, without making it easy, thus still making it possible to create great episodes with communication problems.

what do you all think?

[jcainhaze]

It'd be awsome if the Furlings show up completely naked and joined the SGU nakedfest. Either that or they jump out of hyperspace and blast the Destiny all to hell for absolutely no reason and we never get any explination.

[IcarusAbides]

I thought TPTB had stated that the furlings would not be a part of SGU or any other Stargate series. Personally i would rather not find out about them, i like that they can be anything you want them to be, finding out about them would be interesting but would destroy the image i have created of them.

[SBN]

I know we are not going to see them, but.....

If we do, I want them to be more like the alien in Alien, but bigger. Like 20 feet tall. There should be lots of goo, slime, and ooze all over them just to make them more disgusting. And make the teeth bigger, with long razor claws.

[YoshiKart64]

If we ever see the Furlings they will have to be renamed. There could a list of names they are also known by and that's how we discover they are the same race from the alliance.

I mean seriously there is no way a race called The Furlings will ever be taken seriously or even be remotely cool.

[Kick-Kinsey]

I'll say never because their an SG1 race and TPTB have stated many times they regret creating them. They will show up after I win the lottery.

What do they regret?
The name?

[Captain Obvious]

I would assume the Furlings are from a world Called Furl.

And yes, I hope that the series finale is destiny docking at a wrecked space station on a planet called Furl, with nothing but a meager agrarian society being on the surface.

an agrarian society made up of 15 foot tall lizards.

[DavidR]

What do they regret?
The name?

Making the Furlings a parody of the Ewoks in Star Wars.

SG1 has many parodies of other Sci Fi shows. One that comes to mind is Mitchell's parody of Star Wars in the episode Avalon when Daniel finds the only book among the "treasures".

In my opinion, The 4 great races posed a problem with the Alteran story arc. Since the Alteran story arc tells of them coming to the Milky Way galaxy and "seeding life" using the Dakara device, the episodes where Anubis wanted the device to destroy all life in the galaxy ran counter to having 4 Great Races in the Milky Way galaxy. To solve the continuity problem, the Asgard came from the Ida galaxy followed both the Norse mythology and the modern day alien abduction accounts. The Goa'uld, a dying parasite race, on a search of the universe [galaxy] with its history first mentiond in the movie Stargate, followed many of the Earth's other mythology [Egyptian, Chinese, Celtic, Hindu and some Greek. The Alterans came from Greek mythology, the great race of Atlantis that came from a distant galaxy. The Nox are an opposite of the Roman/Greek mythology, Nox goddess of Dark. The Nox also follow some of the Celtic and later Brittish mythology of fairies. Who also are from a distant galaxy [though never really said in any of the SG1 episodes].

The Furlings really don't have a well recognized earth mythology, folklore or legend to model after. Most of the well recognized mythology and lore had already been used. [note: the Wraiths in SGA were modeled after vampire legends]. So what to do?

[NormaN]

Could be a long shot but maybe the sand bugs are the Furlings. Just throwing that out there.

[DetriusXii]

Could be a long shot but maybe the sand bugs are the Furlings. Just throwing that out there.


I don't think the Ancients would form an alliance with beings several tens of galaxies away while completing missing out on the Gadmeer.

[NormaN]

Who knows, they could of ended up just a few hundred years ago.

[Replicator Todd]

The Furlings should appear on the final episode of SGU as little teddy bears with serious voices. They come in and slaughter the Destiny's crew and blow up the ship. The End.

[Mr. Hook]

The terrible horrible awful no-good truth about the Furlings...














is...















wait for it...














http://misterhook.tripod.com/misc/fanart/furrling_wrath.jpg

Be afraid...be very afraid...:baal10:

[escyos]

^^^ Haha i just thought of Reginald on American Dad. that would be a good Furling.

http://d3.ac-videos.myspacecdn.com/videos02/19/thumb1_229de482bd60439ba58d33e7c744ecea.jpg

[Stewart5]

I don't know if they will or should feature the furlings, but I do know it might make the show a bit more interesting :lol:

[Hallowed are the...]

The fans want to see Furlings right? I see no reason why the producers would give the fans what they ask for.

[Commander Zelix]

Furlings for just one episode would be underwhelming. But if they step into Furlings space for the second season and find themselves in complex political situation that would certainly live up the show from the current snoozefest. They can still show their sporadic sex scenes to make SGU more edgy.

[Lightning Ducj]

What do they regret?
The name?

I would guess because the Furlings were kinda meant as a throw-away line, almost a joke, with no real intention of developing them. However as the series went on ..the galaxy seemed to get...smaller..as more of the gould story line ran down and more of the Ancient/Ori and Asgard back stories were fleshed out and developed. The Fulrings became rather conspicuous in their absence.

[Shpinxinator]

I get the feeling Destiny may have been a joint efford between the Ancients and Furlings possibly as a result of those two races being the first in the great alliance? (not cannon of course just an assumption) Because the hull of the ship reminds me of the small glimpse of their tech we saw in "Paradise Lost"

[puddlejumperOZ]

http://forum.gateworld.net/picture.php?albumid=1525&pictureid=18720

[Hallowed are the...]

Just realized something: at the time of the so-called Great Alliance, the Asgard looked more humanoid. The Nox look human as well. I see no reason why the Furling would look too different.

I also like the idea that the Destiny was the work of the Great Alliance instead of the work of only the Alterans. Would be a nice reminder that the Alterans were not the only smart things in the Milky Way before the plague.

[Driskoll Xun]

Destiny was apparently launched from Earth while Atlantis was there the first time (before the reseeding of the Milky Way). While the Nox are only conceivable as a branch off from the Ancients, I imagine the Asgard and Furlings are quite young comparatively. If the Furlings are near Destiny, the most believable scenario would be that they stowed aboard the Destiny within the last few thousand years, like the Tau'ri. It is possible the Tau'ri were not the first to harness a radioactive core or find some other appropriate power source to dial Destiny.

[Commander Zelix]

Destiny was apparently launched from Earth while Atlantis was there the first time (before the reseeding of the Milky Way). While the Nox are only conceivable as a branch off from the Ancients, I imagine the Asgard and Furlings are quite young comparatively. If the Furlings are near Destiny, the most believable scenario would be that they stowed aboard the Destiny within the last few thousand years, like the Tau'ri. It is possible the Tau'ri were not the first to harness a radioactive core or find some other appropriate power source to dial Destiny.
I don't get why the nox could only be considered a branch off the ancient. Same as the Furling and Asgard being young compare to ancient. I always considered them on the same footing time wise, intuitively. What on screen evidence says the contrary?

[Driskoll Xun]

Regarding the Nox: Strange hair does not an alien make. Regarding the others: I find it more intuitive, given that the level of tech possessed by the Asgard in 2007 barely stands up to tech that the Ancients have had for millions of years, that the Four Races alliance was culminated near the Ancients return to Earth 10,000 years ago. The Asgard as we know them would be a "recent" development. That being said, given what we've seen of their previous form, I would not be surprised if the Asgard themselves were related genetically to the Ancients. Their records from the time of that form and before seem to be sparse.

If an "alien" looks like a human, then it's not an alien. The idea that evolution would funnel into only one kind (or even predominantly one kind) of tool user is absurd. Evidence from the franchise suggests that the Ancients have had a nasty little hand in uplifting humans. Although the Ancients were more sophisticated in their ethnocentricities, they seem little better then the Eurondans in The Other Side. They were advanced enough to manipulate a "seed of evolution" that they could reliably predict would result in humans during their absence from the Milky Way

Incidentally, I think the only time the franchise attempted a Vulcan explanation of a human form was Deadman Switch. Considering they haven't used it since, I don't think they were too proud of it.

[btepoe1117]

I think they should do it one of two ways, either the furlings were wiped out entirely, or only the utopia from "Paradise Lost" was wiped out and they are still around in the galaxy the destiny is travelling through.

If it is the first way, then they could still show them by having a time travel episode. If it is the second way, then they could just find them in the destiny's galaxy.

[the fifth man]

At this point, I am fine with never actually meeting or seeing the Furlings. I made peace with that long ago.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Personally I'd like to see something solid of the Furlings, but it needn't be in the flesh. Even finding eveidence of them, an outpost or something would be enough to sate my curiosity:D

[beafly]

I'm struggling to understand the re-curing sentiment here that the furlings couldn't possibly be this far away from the Milky Way.

There are dozens of SG plausible explanations for how they very well could be.

[GateMan2000]

Stupid for bringing it up. They do not even fit in this show lol.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Stupid for bringing it up. They do not even fit in this show lol.

How so?

[jelgate]

How so?

Because they are a race from another show that have never been seen and only mentioned 3 times.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Because they are a race from another show that have never been seen and only mentioned 3 times.

So you are saying SGU is not Stargate? And the fact they have been mentioned only rarely, increases the curiosity imo:D

[jelgate]

So you are saying SGU is not Stargate? And the fact they have been mentioned only rarely, increases the curiosity imo:D

I think the round thing in Destiny's control room pretty much says its Stargate:P

[puddlejumperOZ]

I think the round thing in Destiny's control room pretty much says its Stargate:P

Ah so you agree it is the same show...in the context of it being Stargate. And well, the Ancients came from another show of the franchise, as did the Lucian Alliance, so why not the Furlings, or even the Goa'uld for that matter, it's all Stargate:D

[jelgate]

Ah so you agree it is the same show...in the context of it being Stargate. And well, the Ancients came from another show of the franchise, as did the Lucian Alliance, so why not the Furlings, or even the Goa'uld for that matter, it's all Stargate:D

Because too many old aliens (especially aliens we have never met) points to the difficulty of creating new stories

[puddlejumperOZ]

Because too many old aliens (especially aliens we have never met) points to the difficulty of creating new stories

Ah but there's the newness in it, we haven't seen or met the Furballs, so now would be the ideal time to at least find out more about them. It doesn't have to even be a meet and greet, just some new revelation about them would be fine:D

[jelgate]

Not really when you remember that SGU is aiming to create new viewers. Why bring in a race only the most devout of fans care about?

[puddlejumperOZ]

Not really when you remember that SGU is aiming to create new viewers. Why bring in a race only the most devout of fans care about?

The new viewers wouldn't care less because they are new viewers and to them it would be just a part of the story, it's a new show to them, so they will not be familiar with the Stargate history. It's just like introducing a new character, don't forget, they already set the precedent by bringing in Jack, Sam and Daniel.

[Blistna]

First off, I'm not going to read an entire thread this long that probably has most of the threads saying they dont want to see furlings...


I hope not. I like the idea that unlike the Ancients or the Asgard or the Nox they just died out.

Like, there's an Air of that when the mention them in Paradise Lost. It seems cool to have this race that helped shape the galaxy millions of years ago but died out and didn't ascend or clone themselves or anything.

I don't want to see the Furlings...but I want more episodes like Paradise Lost. Where we get a glimpse of who they were and what they stood for. And maybe see their homeworld...what if they werent from the Milky Way? We'll hopefully see one day!

[KEK]

No/no.

[jmoz]

Hmmm, to encounter the Furlings, my answer is quoting the show, "They're the wrong people.." If they show the Furlings, what's left in the mystery department? The crystal skull race? Reto? I like the vague reference approach. Maybe will add Daniel-like archaeological, historical, discovery aspect to the show. Just anything to occupy them.

Maybe, when they become the "right people" in future seasons, then I think they'd be uh what's the word, wise enough or something to meet them.

[Pharaoh Atem]

not while robert cooper draws breath

[puddlejumperOZ]

Hmmm, to encounter the Furlings, my answer is quoting the show, "They're the wrong people.." If they show the Furlings, what's left in the mystery department? The crystal skull race? Reto? I like the vague reference approach. Maybe will add Daniel-like archaeological, historical, discovery aspect to the show. Just anything to occupy them.

Maybe, when they become the "right people" in future seasons, then I think they'd be uh what's the word, wise enough or something to meet them.


That is, another way of expressing the same as I, good post. Greened:D

[Knight121198]

Hi all im new here and i registered just to add my thoughts to this thread,now i am one of those people who would love to see the Furlings in an SGA movie and if u think about it a little it can be easily explained why we havent seen any,a race just as advanced as the Lantians(ancients) would have many ways to hide them selves from the wraith so we can argue they may of had a Pegasus outpost to continue trade and contact with the lantians and upon discovering the problem with the wraith atempted to help the Lantians defeat the them but when they found that war was going south they placed there colony system out of phase with normal space time(much like merlins device) allowing them to effectively hide it but they would routinely scan for interstellar traffic and comms.How can this be used in a movie well just have the Daedalus get attacked by 2 or 3 wraith hive ships just outside the system,the Furlings would normally avoid engaging the wraith as not to alert them to there existance but they detect the energy signiture of one of there allied races the Asgard(beam weps give off this signiture) and they send a ship to assist as they feel obligated to do so....a story could easliy be made for them if we tried this is just one way to introduce them.I also have ideas for what they would look like and other stuff but ive already ranted enough for 1 post tell me what u think and well just post other ways we could introduce them i love to read some other ideas.

[timebandit]

i think at some point we ought to get a chance to see them [other than paradise lost and wormhole xtreme...] like this idea.

maybe they developed mini stargate-like networks of their own, from that funky doorway on that moon in paradise lost, and develop them into another 'flavor' of stargates, that go between phased out places. or something.

[jmoz]

Hi all im new here and i registered just to add my thoughts to this thread,now i am one of those people who would love to see the Furlings in an SGA movie and if u think about it a little it can be easily explained why we havent seen any,a race just as advanced as the Lantians(ancients) would have many ways to hide them selves from the wraith so we can argue they may of had a Pegasus outpost to continue trade and contact with the lantians and upon discovering the problem with the wraith atempted to help the Lantians defeat the them but when they found that war was going south they placed there colony system out of phase with normal space time(much like merlins device) allowing them to effectively hide it but they would routinely scan for interstellar traffic and comms.How can this be used in a movie well just have the Daedalus get attacked by 2 or 3 wraith hive ships just outside the system,the Furlings would normally avoid engaging the wraith as not to alert them to there existance but they detect the energy signiture of one of there allied races the Asgard(beam weps give off this signiture) and they send a ship to assist as they feel obligated to do so....a story could easliy be made for them if we tried this is just one way to introduce them.I also have ideas for what they would look like and other stuff but ive already ranted enough for 1 post tell me what u think and well just post other ways we could introduce them i love to read some other ideas.

Check out the movie folder, think there's a whole thread dedicated to that. Me, personally I like the mystery. Maybe add some fossils of the Furlings to add an archeology aspect to the show. I'd like to see some of the rival/allies/alien races from the Ancient's first venture through the universe.

[Passie]

Some say Firlings will never get used cos they regret using that name
Come on this is SCI FI
So there are lots of ways to workaround the problem

Watchers wont take the name serious
Because they visualize firlings like EWOKS
If you use a lil imagination then there is a simple workaround

We HUMAN BEINGS started as FIRLINGS ourselfs
We were Neanderthalers ones weren't we
Hair still grows on our hand and various parts where we not need hair
We got clothes now so don't need all that hair to stay warm

Firlings could have evolved just like us
And SGU could meet them on their travel
We could form an alliance with them together with the NOX and the new found Asguard [SGAS5 E10 - First Contact]
And we also got an evolved race like The SACAY Stargate Atlantis S05 E15 Remnants

Imo there is no other way then to use one of those evolved races
Destiny is not a base to go back to
And without a base to go back to there is no future in the storyline
Because a storyline needs a buildup

Destiny is constantly moving to new things
So there is no base to build up to meet characters for a second time
Thus if they meet usefull entities and places
Then Destiny will just move on and they'll lose contact with the ones they meet

So imo SGU HAS TO meet an evolved race to help them to controll the Destiny
And find a way to travel back to Stargate Earth
Else they just meet entities and leave them
Which makes meeting others useless and it will become even more boring
They need to meet evolved ones to make the story interesting
Firlings or Sacay or more Asguard offspring or another race
They'll sure meet a known or new evolved race else the series has no future imo

[TBA]

At first glance I thought you had written a poem.

[StargateWatcher]

I highly agree w/ u on that

mean Four Old Great Races MAJOR theme in Stargate concept universe

they've shown us almost 0/0 of 1/4 of FGR Alliance

[KEK]

The Alliance hasn't really been much of a major theme at all as far as I can tell, in fact I can't ever remember it being explored at all apart from some vague speculation in Torment of Tantalus, and the odd reference by Thor...

[StargateWatcher]

Well said. I wrote a fanfic on the Furlings on fanfiction.net where I use my forum name too.

[jmoz]

The Alliance hasn't really been much of a major theme at all as far as I can tell, in fact I can't ever remember it being explored at all apart from some vague speculation in Torment of Tantalus, and the odd reference by Thor...

Would be great to see what kind of adversity that Alliance faced. Even though the Ancients gave the most technology and left behind the most treasures, I like the Asgard because of how helpful they were. And they weren't afraid to ask for help themselves, the Ancients had to be convinced to help themselves.

And the Furlings, hopefully they're really out there. Too out there to ever come upon the Destiny, don't see why they would even want to interact with the people on the Destiny. O'Neill proved himself resourceful and uh what's the word, worthy?, to encounter the Asgard. I don't see that happening with the Destiny crew anytime soon or ever, maybe later seasons.

[myhelix]

Nooooooooooo!:mckay:

[Tuvok]

Picture if you will.

Eli and Greer land on a planet.

We see them looking at a wall.

Eli - So , that's a Furling.

Greer- Huh.

Eli- Wow.

Greer- Did you bring a camera?

Eli - I thought you did.

The two still stare at the wall. We the audiance have no idea what they are looking at.

Greer- We gotta go.

Eli - Yeah, well that was interesting I mean did you see the way..

The two walk off, Eli voice fading away so we don't hear any discription of the Furling. And we don't see any detail of the damn thing at all. And that will be the only and sole appearance of a Furling.


:mckay:

[Mongoletsi]

I hope Tuvok is right :)

[puddlejumperOZ]

For some inexplicable reason, whenever I read or hear about the Furlings, two images come into my mind, firstly the opening battle scene of LOTR and seeing Elrond, and their complex at Rivendel, that to me is the Furlings and I think it would not be crazy in SGU for them to meet them:D

[EllieVee]

Tuvok's scene gets my vote.

[puddlejumperOZ]

Tuvok's scene gets my vote.

Of course it does Elliie, you've lost your inner child some time ago and the magic has gone of a furtive imagination:p

[jmoz]

lol Tuvok.

Or they censor everything. They're all one big blur or censor bar. And they bleep everything they say.

[puddlejumperOZ]

The Furlings have arrived here and now

http://forum.gateworld.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=20753

[Quadhelix]

Watchers wont take the name serious
Because they visualize firlings like EWOKS I know that I already said this, but it seems to bear repeating: there is no reason to think that the name "Furling" has anything to with animal fur, any more than the name "Asgard" has to do with defending one's rear or the name "Nox" has anything to do with getting someone to answer the door.

As for the Furlings being in Stargate Universe, I would have to say that having Homer Simpson show up on the Destiny would violate my willing suspension of disbelieve less than a Furling.

[Orion475]

I keep thinking that the Furling battlecruisers are from the episode "Grace"

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=153&pos=51

[puddlejumperOZ]

I keep thinking that the Furling battlecruisers are from the episode "Grace"

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=153&pos=51

Now there is a very plausible explanation, we never did find out who they were, or why they took the crew? Nice, you are greened:D

[timebandit]

that is a pretty cool ship isnt it?

im sorry this prob has been mentioned before but whenever I see the clip from "200" the voice saying 'we are the furlings' is just so bleeping hilarious whenever I see it!

[SGTB1991]

I think it'd be a nice treat to meet the real furlings at some point. We got to meet all of the other four/five races. So I dn't see why the furlings couldn't pop up somewhere. :)

[puddlejumperOZ]

I believe they are already here, there is on Furling staring with Sam Neil in a TV commercial


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnNC9GmM2Ms

[Replicator Todd]

The Furlings are Wraith!

[puddlejumperOZ]

The Furlings are Wraith!

Hmm interesting theory, Todd is there any substantive evidence that will irrefutively enhance the broad spectrum of this analogy, peratining to the advancement of our lust for unexplained and hitherto untold mysteries that may or may not surround the conundrum that is the sad and negelected tale of the 'said' Furlings?:D

[Puddle-Jumper]

Ideally Id like to have seen them in SG1, or even an upcoming SG1 movie but its not looking like thats going to happen so if its a choice between not seeing them at all or having them in SGU id pick the latter...

[puddlejumperOZ]

Ideally Id like to have seen them in SG1, or even an upcoming SG1 movie but its not looking like thats going to happen so if its a choice between not seeing them at all or having them in SGU id pick the latter...

I would have to agree:D

[Puddle-Jumper]

I would have to agree:D

Puddle-Jumpers Unite :D

[puddlejumperOZ]

Absolutely damn oath, oh PJ check out the Furling in the video up there^^^^^^^^:D

[Eternal Density]

Real Furlings, but because of issues with their immune systems they wear suits all the time and you can only make out vague facial details though their tinted visors.