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paulanthony
August 26th, 2008, 04:33 PM
Maybe it is time to start bringing back mythology based story arcs, i would like to see some inclusions for Mayan civilizations or Minoans, which were barely touched upon in previous episodes. I think the Mayan's could be related with a "Crystal Skull" alien story Ark. I would also like to see some inclusion for other lost civilization myths such as the lost kingdom of Hiva (cities of gold) or to fllow uo with other previously unidentified technologies such as those in "Paradise lost"

Flyboy
August 26th, 2008, 04:36 PM
I don't believe SGU is any kind of show for THAT kind of mythology. That was SG1's territory due to the fact it was our galaxy. Sga fitted into the mythology by what it was in nature, but that's about it, it was a different gate show, but with root ties.

I'd rather see SGU be a show that maintains the initial identity of Stargate (real world, real problems, real tech, real soldiers) and throw them out into the edge of the universe and have original stories instead.

Jacka
August 26th, 2008, 04:53 PM
I think either Easter Island or Stone Henge would be the coolest. maybe like Stone Henge was like a stone representation of the "Destiny" or even a landing pad.

PG15
August 26th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Well, we can still do mythology stories even if we're not in our galaxy anymore; all we need is a sufficiently advanced civilization getting a hold of one of the seeded Gates and finding a way to Earth through it.

Hey, maybe that's where the Foothold aliens came from. They found a gate while their world was dying, and they decided to use it to find a new home: Earth (dun dun dun!!).

Flyboy
August 26th, 2008, 05:09 PM
Well, we can still do mythology stories even if we're not in our galaxy anymore; all we need is a sufficiently advanced civilization getting a hold of one of the seeded Gates and finding a way to Earth through it.

Hey, maybe that's where the Foothold aliens came from. They found a gate while their world was dying, and they decided to use it to find a new home: Earth (dun dun dun!!).
Now THAT works.

_Famrir_
August 26th, 2008, 06:10 PM
i hope they do something with the aztecs or mayan cultures

jenks
August 26th, 2008, 09:01 PM
I'd like to see some mythology, though I don't see how they'd incorporate it considering they'd be visiting galaxies even the Ancients hadn't explored...

Gollumpus
August 26th, 2008, 09:55 PM
I see no reason for any kind of Earth based mythology to be included in this show, unless it is introduced for some important reason by the human "crew".

As has been pointed out previously, they are going to be traveling through a galaxy (galaxies?) which has not even been visited by the Ancients. While it might be nice to see different Earth cultures examined from a Stargate perspective, I just don't see it happening.

As it is, I've always hated how Stargate has tried to take credit for all of the various cultures on Earth. How and why did so many different Goa'uld influenced cultures appear on Earth? I'm willing to do the whole suspension of disbelief thing with regard to Egypt, but after that, how is there a chance in Hades that there would be any kind of influence on any people, anywhere else in the world? Also, several Goa'uld cultures, which are supposed to be the basis of an Earth culture, existed thousands of years apart. With no access to a stargate or any record of an off-world influence, how did these cultures get here? It just seemed to be laziness in the creative department.

I'm pretty much burned out on Earth mythology in Stargate. Do something new or don't do it at all. This is the chance to really start this franchise anew.:)

regards,
G.

Grinspoon
August 26th, 2008, 10:11 PM
I think if they start bumping into earth related cultures in a distant universe with no way to get home.. then that just reinforces the concept of no way home being silly even more so.

Only explanation would be some super advanced alien that travelled the universe which has now gone. Or, moved on and found different far away lands. But the time frames of our civilisation means in a universal perspective, they would have just been at earth, so how to make that all make sense is hard.

Gollumpus
August 27th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I think if they start bumping into earth related cultures in a distant universe with no way to get home.. then that just reinforces the concept of no way home being silly even more so.

Only explanation would be some super advanced alien that travelled the universe which has now gone. Or, moved on and found different far away lands. But the time frames of our civilisation means in a universal perspective, they would have just been at earth, so how to make that all make sense is hard.


Indeed.

I'm going to blame the Furlings. I bet that while they are advanced and all, they've likely devolved into some sort of "trickster" race who like to go around messing with other folks. Or perhaps they aren't as benevolent as the Asgard and take exception at these young upstarts snooping around on the ship of their old ally. As punishment, they leave the humans stranded.

The folks on Destiny are just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

regards,
G.

ussrelativity
August 27th, 2008, 12:21 AM
I'd love to see Lemuria pushed hard in a SG-mythology.

There's little information on Lemuria as compared to Atlantis.

Miroslav
August 27th, 2008, 01:53 AM
What about Mu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(continent))? :)

Flyboy
August 27th, 2008, 02:38 AM
I always thought that the Goa'uld had taken humans from all over Earth prior to the uprising, yet there was only one Stargate. When Ra fled, he probably ordered the rest to leave.

GateTrek2004
August 27th, 2008, 02:44 AM
I always thought that the Goa'uld had taken humans from all over Earth prior to the uprising, yet there was only one Stargate. When Ra fled, he probably ordered the rest to leave.

That makes sense as Ra before he died was the Supreme System Lord, which in the #1 Goauld!

Cryowolf
August 27th, 2008, 05:25 AM
They could introduce the Furlings, there isn't much known about them and what is known can be told in less than a minute.

GI Joe Handsome 1: "Who are the Furlings?"
GI Joe Handsome 2: "One of the first 4 most advanced races in this galaxy"
GI Joe Handsome 1: "Oh I see."

Actually that would take less than 5 seconds.

Naonak
August 27th, 2008, 09:26 AM
I'd love to see Lemuria pushed hard in a SG-mythology.

There's little information on Lemuria as compared to Atlantis.
'Cos it was basically invented in the 19th century.

The Prophet
August 27th, 2008, 09:32 AM
New Villains for Universe:

Space Lemurs.

Gollumpus
August 27th, 2008, 09:33 AM
I always thought that the Goa'uld had taken humans from all over Earth prior to the uprising, yet there was only one Stargate. When Ra fled, he probably ordered the rest to leave.


Even if we are to accept that Earth was "shared" by multiple goa'uld (something which I do not buy), there is still the issue that several of the cultures represented are not contemporary with one another. Egypt is dated back around 5,000 years. The Maya, as one example, only go back about 2,000.

If Ra held the gate, and was allowing other goa'uld to sit around on Earth, scooping up humans and influencing the local cultures, then these cultures would all date back to about the same time. After Ra got booted off the planet, there would be no additional goa'uld influences on us, nor would there be any Earth culture influences upon the goa'uld. :)

regards,
G.

Naonak
August 27th, 2008, 09:46 AM
Even if we are to accept that Earth was "shared" by multiple goa'uld (something which I do not buy), there is still the issue that several of the cultures represented are not contemporary with one another. Egypt is dated back around 5,000 years. The Maya, as one example, only go back about 2,000.
As far as we know... ;)


If Ra held the gate, and was allowing other goa'uld to sit around on Earth, scooping up humans and influencing the local cultures, then these cultures would all date back to about the same time. After Ra got booted off the planet, there would be no additional goa'uld influences on us, nor would there be any Earth culture influences upon the goa'uld. :)
Daniel does mention this in... Solitudes, I think, about how they've encountered cultures from after the gate was buried.

Sokar, at least, was visiting Earth long after the uprising in Egypt, stealing Christians.

Gollumpus
August 27th, 2008, 11:06 AM
While the dates for human habitation in North America are being pushed back as more archaeology is done, we can be pretty sure about the dates for the so-called "New World" cultures. The progenitor culture of the area is the Olmecs, who start back around 3500 years ago. As a nation, Egypt was already that old. :daniel:

Any later trips to Earth by goa'uld are a bit of a mystery to me. Why wouldn't one of them have tried to set up shop? Another stargate and DHD could be shipped to Earth if the old one couldn't be found. And if the locals got a bit too uppity, just bomb them back to the Stone Age and move down the road and start over. ;)

And what about the Asgard?

regards,
G.

GhostPoet
August 27th, 2008, 11:08 AM
We'll see fake mythology. Nothing earth based. We'll probably see a lot of Ancient mythology.

Woden
August 27th, 2008, 11:10 AM
I don't think we will see mythology in Universe, but if it will be a would choose my fav: Nordic mythology.

Ikaros
August 27th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Maybe it is time to start bringing back mythology based story arcs, i would like to see some inclusions for Mayan civilizations or Minoans, which were barely touched upon in previous episodes. I think the Mayan's could be related with a "Crystal Skull" alien story Ark. I would also like to see some inclusion for other lost civilization myths such as the lost kingdom of Hiva (cities of gold) or to fllow uo with other previously unidentified technologies such as those in "Paradise lost"

I don't want to see anything in Universe!!!!!!
That kind of story arcs could only been told in SG1 and Atlantis anyway!!!!

Shaod
August 27th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Even if we are to accept that Earth was "shared" by multiple goa'uld (something which I do not buy), there is still the issue that several of the cultures represented are not contemporary with one another. Egypt is dated back around 5,000 years. The Maya, as one example, only go back about 2,000.

If Ra held the gate, and was allowing other goa'uld to sit around on Earth, scooping up humans and influencing the local cultures, then these cultures would all date back to about the same time. After Ra got booted off the planet, there would be no additional goa'uld influences on us, nor would there be any Earth culture influences upon the goa'uld. :)

regards,
G.



Earth could have been shared. we know that most other planets in the MW aren't as densely populated nor have as many different cultures as Earth. Goa'ulds could have just divided up Earth territories. Also, if Ra was teh Supreme Goa'uld System Lord he had other Goa'ulds serving him, meaning humans worshipped them also to some extent.

The Goa'uld that were the Egyptian Gods dominated one area of Earth. Other Goa'ulds ( Greek gods, Roman gods,etc) dominated other areas respectively.

Gollumpus
August 28th, 2008, 01:16 AM
Earth could have been shared. we know that most other planets in the MW aren't as densely populated nor have as many different cultures as Earth. Goa'ulds could have just divided up Earth territories. Also, if Ra was teh Supreme Goa'uld System Lord he had other Goa'ulds serving him, meaning humans worshipped them also to some extent.

The Goa'uld that were the Egyptian Gods dominated one area of Earth. Other Goa'ulds ( Greek gods, Roman gods,etc) dominated other areas respectively.


I go back to my earlier point: if Earth was shared by several goa'uld during the same time period, then the human cultures which they inspired would be contemporary with the Egyptian culture which was inspired by Ra (ie. they would also date back to 5,000 yrs BCE). This is not the case, in this universe nor in the Stargate universe. The Greek culture, as one example, comes much later than the Eygptian. :daniel:

After the gate was lost, the only way the goa'uld could return would be by ship. It seems odd to me that one of the more powerful ones did not take it upon themselves to dig up the gate at Giza, or at the very least, show up with a new gate taken from a different world. They would then be able to set up shop again.

The use of multiple Earth cultures says three things to me about the producers/writers of SG1: 1.) they wanted to support a multi-cultural view of the human race. It also explains why we see humans other than those who look like they are of Eygptian extraction; 2.) they wanted to change up the villians and it would make things a bit more exotic to say that the goa'uld-de-jour is Yu or Cronus rather than the latest in a succession of goa'uld based on gods dredged from Eyptian mythology; 3.) the producers/writers made a bad choice early in the show's history and found they couldn't get out from under it once the avalanche had started. ;)

regards,
G.

Grinspoon
August 28th, 2008, 04:38 AM
But there was a second gate on earth.....



I would assume as earth was the home place of humans, then maybe it was under some protection or some sort of treaty that no one will dominate it completely.

Maybe over the years people would stop off for a while, then the asgard or something would come and scare them off, but the cultures were influenced. Or people got strandard here and there importanting cultures. There's many explanations. But in the end of the day, its just something best not to look for a definitive answer.

Gollumpus
August 28th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Yes, therre was a second gate, and DHD, brought to Earth by Ra ( I assume).


There's many explanations. But in the end of the day, its just something best not to look for a definitive answer.

You are indeed wise. :tealc:

I suppose that, in the greater scheme of things it doesn't matter anymore what they did on SG-1 (although, as fans it is our responsibility to do in-depth analysis of the show ;)).

Let's just hope that the folks putting Universe together put out a solid product. Which doesn't include any Earth mythology... :jack:

regards,
G.