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Lostpinky
April 25th, 2008, 12:13 AM
Now that season 5 is confirmed and the replicators have been reduced to a handful of ascension fanatics its time we saw the wraith make a comeback, yes they got hit hard by the replicators but they managed to wipe out an entire galaxy of ancients.

The travellers should not be made the big bad guys imo, they should join us in a formal alliance in the pegasus galaxy.

What we need is something new, big, powerful, covering several seasons that can lead into or relate to SG:Universe when it happens.

We've had 4 seasons to get established now we need something legendary such as they did for Babylon 5 over its middle seasons.

I know some of you may not agree but i think the best stories are those that progress the underlying story arc and being the case i think we need something epic.

The Michael arc has the potential to lead into this...
The Replciator arc needs to be settled...
The Travellers should appear more like the Asgard did in a helpful manner... or we help them...
The Wraith either need to be reseated as the main antagonists or become secondary like the Goa'uld did in S9 and S10.
The Universe is infinite and we're travelling around in our 304s to many different galaxies now lets see something spectacular...

I'm open to serious ideas people would like to see...

My idea would be Atlantis dealing less with returning to Earth and more with finding new life... I know pegasus was devoid of life when the ancients colonised it but if it is the pegasus galaxy near Andromeda (again speculation) surely there has to be some big bads in the Andromeda Galaxy.

Even if you don't want to take it outside of Pegasus the current capabilities of our heros are... we easliy destroy wraith ships, we're hiding all the time from the full wraith assault... the wraith are currrently fighting amongst themselves becuase they don't have a large enough threat to take on... which could have happened with the replicators.

We need something new and i hope this new enemy they are talking about in the later part of season 5 becomes that epic adventure that this show needs.

SG1 set the roots, Atlantis was meant to be a means to destroying the Goa'uld, it really didn't help much and we don't hear much about technology that gets adapted from lantean tech for human use.

We need some sort of progression... I think the foothold aliens would make a good new enemy, they were never really developed, they had the tech to come here from another galaxy, there is potential there as there is in alot of aliens races that sg1 developed, we need atlantis to move away from its Lantean-Wraith specifics and branch out a bit.

Don't get me wrong I love Stargate and would not stop watching it ever but i think if the stories don't become a bit more indepth and intriguing it could lead to the end of SGA after season 5.

DO you guys agree or not and why?

PG15
April 25th, 2008, 12:20 AM
Oh I definitely agree. I love long term story arcs that pay off in a big way down the line and show progression in plot and characters. It gets you involved, makes you care about where the story is going instead of just being entertained for an hour every week, which is what Stargate is to me, (though there has been moments of brilliance here and there, especially recently, IMHO).

Though I think it's a little too late for Atlantis to do that. If you really want to make the show arc-based you really have to plan ahead from the very beginning, and unfortunately TPTB didn't do that, and they won't be doing that any time soon, from the looks of it. One season at a time isn't good enough...but then, it's hard to do otherwise with a fickle channel like SciFi.

Heaven
April 25th, 2008, 03:58 AM
I think the Daedalus Variations could have been excellent for a long story arc set in another reality
just think about all the possibilities
they could have gone to a reality where the ancients are still around and a myriad of other races that the wraith haven't had a chance to destroy or maybe are at war with.
the possibilities are endless

I think it's a terrible waste to squeeze an idea with so much potential into one episode.
spending a few episodes stranded exploring a different reality could have made wonders of development for the Pegasus galaxy.

rielgenius1688
April 25th, 2008, 07:32 AM
The first time they did an alternate reality-what happens there is going to happen here episode it was pretty cool. The second was pretty cool too. It may be starting to get old

Teslan
April 25th, 2008, 10:31 AM
I don't know if its too late PG, one can always change or add an arc, the only problem is like you mentioned about the possibility of it getting cancelled mid-series.

The Michael arc had the most potential, IMHO, but they might have ruined it with the end of TLM. Asurans are too powerful to make a good arc. For me they work best as they are, an enemy that occasionally pops up and causes trouble, and can't really be destroyed but only contained. Every time they show up, everybody loses their heads: the Tau'ri, Asgard, Goa'uld, Wraith, even for the Ori they weren't pushovers.

The Travellers don't seem to be quite as advanced as the Asgard, but you're right when you say that it would be good if Atlantis could count on them as a somewhat loyal ally. But TPTB said that they would mostly show up as a wildcard.

I thought Universe wasn't supposed to have anything to do with the other two series?

SpaceCowboy
April 25th, 2008, 10:59 AM
One of the most effective enemies is the one that is glimpsed, but not seen. The most effective enemy faced in the Star Trek universe was the Borg, whose advance from the Gamma to the Alpha Quadrants was a major story arc through almost every permutation of the Trek empire. Q gave us a glimpse of the threat posed by the Borg, and then, in one way or another, the anticipation of their arrival was as significant as when they started knocking on the door.

Along similar lines, it would be nice if the new threat to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in the Pegasus Galaxy were to come from a largely unseen, but powerful presence; fleeting glimpses caught out of the corner of one's eye. Wraith and human alike feel the presence of......something; but they can't quite nail down what it is. But soon it becomes clear that strange things are happening in the PG, and these things are not coincidence nor are they going away.

Thus the arc begins with a mystery that progresses to a puzzle before finally becoming a frustrating enigma before.....POW.....just when everybody is on the edge of their seats in anticipation, the new player in the galaxy is revealed:

The Furlings!

JUST KIDDING! I wanted to see how many people would scream and pound their keyboards at the mere mention of those fuzzy little critters....if indeed that's what they were?????

No, the longer TPTB can keep the actual identity of the new players a mystery, the better. In the meantime, our fearless explorers continue to mow down Wraith as they continue to fight their civil war, which will ultimately result in a smaller, more united foe that will refocus their attention squarely on Atlantis and on Earth, just in time to meet the mysterious Moozbors (I don't know....like Sheppard I have an aversion to naming things too quickly) who pose as much a threat to them as they do to the humans.

Once again, we are faced with a tri-lateral power struggle within the galaxy and hopefully another season or two worth of material.

Stargate121x
April 25th, 2008, 04:36 PM
I agree completely...there should be a long story arc happening soon. I think the wraith should be back again as a threat, altho the michael story is very interesting but forget the replicators now....i'm getting sick of them. It would b nice if a goa'uld or 2 got mixed up wit some atlantis episodes, but probably won't happen.

Constanza
April 25th, 2008, 05:01 PM
...the new player in the galaxy is revealed:
The Furlings!
Oh boy! LOL!

Mmmm, agreed! I’m getting tired of one episode after another, and the only thing in common among them is Sheppard, McKay, Teyla and Ronon. I would like them to present a very good mystery that we can follow along the whole season… And if it is related to the wraith: the better!

Lostpinky
April 26th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Spacecowboy you got it, remember when Anubis made his return to stargate it began in season 5 i think, but it was a mystery and it was great to finally see in season 8 what he was all about. I still think there is hope for something like that to happen with atlantis.

As for getting canned mid season... who cares these days... Ark of Truth proved that the story can be concluded even if not part of a series, as a dvd movie.

So this episode they say a new enemy gets introduced (first contact) could be the beginning of something big if they play it right and don't make them a startrek like badguy of the week.

Spacecowboy was right about startrek what did TNG good was the underlying Q and Borg threats, what did Voyager good was the underlying journey home, what did DS9 good was the beginning of the confrontation with the Dominion in season 3, the first two seasons of DS9 were pretty weak until they brought in the underlying threat.

These days we need long story arcs to keep us intrigued as opposed to week by week bad guys that don't really progress the story. It just seems that alot of these episodes are just that. Granted they brought Michael in in Season 2 but he really isn't that big to make a major impact to the peg galaxy other than be a pain in the neck.

We need a big outside force to come wipe us out.

Constanza
April 28th, 2008, 12:44 PM
We need a big outside force to come wipe us out.

Well… agree… but I prefer to wipe “them” out, instead of me! :S

Detox
April 28th, 2008, 06:31 PM
SGA can never have insanely long story Arcs like SG-1. The main reason SG-1's Gou'al arc was so long, because they were given multiple season renewals at once. SGA never got that, they basically have to write each season with the thought that it might be the last, so it wouldn't be smart to create a very long story arc and have it mess up when the show suddenly gets cancelled.

SpaceCowboy
April 28th, 2008, 06:41 PM
SGA can never have insanely long story Arcs like SG-1. The main reason SG-1's Gou'al arc was so long, because they were given multiple season renewals at once. SGA never got that, they basically have to write each season with the thought that it might be the last, so it wouldn't be smart to create a very long story arc and have it mess up when the show suddenly gets cancelled.

That kind of writing strategy rapidly becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. If TPTB really look at every season as the last, and write as if they have to wrap up everything by episode x20, then SGA will be a short lived series indeed.

There is no shame in aggressively writing long story and character arcs that cover multiple seasons as long as they are GOOD! The better they are, the more people will watch. The more people watch, the better the ratings. The better the ratings, the less likely Skiffy will do something stupid, like cancel the show.

AND EVEN IF THEY DO.....there are other venues to explore. SG-1 went off the air and blasted onto DVD with two full length movies. Maybe it's time for this franchise to experiment with theatrical releases; it worked for Star Trek, didn't it. And, how much longer will it be before someone produces high quality programing designed specifically for the World Wide InterWeb (yeah, I know, but I think it sounds funny).

In the final analysis, TPTB are not going to do anything to jeopardize the gravy train upon which they now find themselves riding. The better the stories, the longer the series will last.

Falcon Horus
April 28th, 2008, 11:18 PM
There is no shame in aggressively writing long story and character arcs that cover multiple seasons as long as they are GOOD!

That would require a brain and thinking ahead, not something TPTB have proven to be good at... in my humble opinion of course.

jelgate
April 28th, 2008, 11:26 PM
That would require a brain and thinking ahead, not something TPTB have proven to be good at... in my humble opinion of course.

Speaking of brain, yours must be exhausted being up at this time. Doing a long arc is a risky move just because SciFi won't greenlit more than one season unlike Showtime. Also doing one huge arc can doom the series if is boring or improve the series if it entertaining. The longer an arc is made the greater the chance for a huge failure or success.

YutheGreat
April 29th, 2008, 05:02 AM
what kind of story arc? The michael arc is that arc already.

Falcon Horus
April 29th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Speaking of brain, yours must be exhausted being up at this time.

Mmm... it was early morning... went back to sleep afterwards. :p

g.o.d
April 29th, 2008, 12:56 PM
long and interesting story arc in SGA? Never going to happen.

ussrelativity
April 29th, 2008, 07:23 PM
I've been working with story arcs regarding Atlantis in my fanfics, and they are not easy. Especially with keeping everything canon at the rate I'm writing.

SpaceCowboy
April 29th, 2008, 07:52 PM
That would require a brain and thinking ahead, not something TPTB have proven to be good at... in my humble opinion of course.

No, really, how do you really feel? ;)

Lostpinky
April 30th, 2008, 01:24 AM
what kind of story arc? The michael arc is that arc already.

Yeah i know but the Michael arc lacks the intrigue and suspense that the show needs...

And i will say again that if the execs at scifi were stupid enough to can this show then MGM would finish anystory arc with a direct to dvd movie so if they start something they will be able to finish it, ala Ark of Truth or Farscape PeaceKeeper Wars.

I would seriously like to have some more historic epsiodes and have something build up from the time the ancients were in control and colonising atlantis to the time we are in now, some sort of dual lead in similar to the episode with the whales but more indepth, we learn a bit more about the ancients and how they colonised pegasus, flesh the bacstory out a bit more and let it lead into a major problem for the galaxy unless the team can stop it.

I don't know what exactly but my idea would prolly be like having something happen to the ancients when they first arrived in Pegasus and have a cycle similar to Mass Effect's reapers or Babylon 5's Shadows, every x amount of years something powerful awakens to assess the galaxy and cause trouble.

If you do a dual story showing similarities between how the ancients and us deal with this i think it could add the suspense and intrigue and give the show some more depth.

Cam_Mitchell
April 30th, 2008, 08:56 AM
Now that season 5 is confirmed and the replicators have been reduced to a handful of ascension fanatics its time we saw the wraith make a comeback, yes they got hit hard by the replicators but they managed to wipe out an entire galaxy of ancients.

The travellers should not be made the big bad guys imo, they should join us in a formal alliance in the pegasus galaxy.

What we need is something new, big, powerful, covering several seasons that can lead into or relate to SG:Universe when it happens.

We've had 4 seasons to get established now we need something legendary such as they did for Babylon 5 over its middle seasons.

I know some of you may not agree but i think the best stories are those that progress the underlying story arc and being the case i think we need something epic.

The Michael arc has the potential to lead into this...
The Replciator arc needs to be settled...
The Travellers should appear more like the Asgard did in a helpful manner... or we help them...
The Wraith either need to be reseated as the main antagonists or become secondary like the Goa'uld did in S9 and S10.
The Universe is infinite and we're travelling around in our 304s to many different galaxies now lets see something spectacular...

I'm open to serious ideas people would like to see...

My idea would be Atlantis dealing less with returning to Earth and more with finding new life... I know pegasus was devoid of life when the ancients colonised it but if it is the pegasus galaxy near Andromeda (again speculation) surely there has to be some big bads in the Andromeda Galaxy.

Even if you don't want to take it outside of Pegasus the current capabilities of our heros are... we easliy destroy wraith ships, we're hiding all the time from the full wraith assault... the wraith are currrently fighting amongst themselves becuase they don't have a large enough threat to take on... which could have happened with the replicators.

We need something new and i hope this new enemy they are talking about in the later part of season 5 becomes that epic adventure that this show needs.

SG1 set the roots, Atlantis was meant to be a means to destroying the Goa'uld, it really didn't help much and we don't hear much about technology that gets adapted from lantean tech for human use.

We need some sort of progression... I think the foothold aliens would make a good new enemy, they were never really developed, they had the tech to come here from another galaxy, there is potential there as there is in alot of aliens races that sg1 developed, we need atlantis to move away from its Lantean-Wraith specifics and branch out a bit.

Don't get me wrong I love Stargate and would not stop watching it ever but i think if the stories don't become a bit more indepth and intriguing it could lead to the end of SGA after season 5.

DO you guys agree or not and why?

best Thread I Have Read All Day!

Lostpinky
May 21st, 2008, 02:30 AM
So no one has any serious ideas they'd like to see for direction for atlantis to take?

Merlin1701
May 21st, 2008, 09:27 AM
I would seriously like to have some more historic epsiodes and have something build up from the time the ancients were in control and colonising atlantis to the time we are in now, some sort of dual lead in similar to the episode with the whales but more indepth, we learn a bit more about the ancients and how they colonised pegasus, flesh the bacstory out a bit more and let it lead into a major problem for the galaxy unless the team can stop it.

It sounded great at this point in your post, i read on.



I don't know what exactly but my idea would prolly be like having something happen to the ancients when they first arrived in Pegasus and have a cycle similar to Mass Effect's reapers or Babylon 5's Shadows, every x amount of years something powerful awakens to assess the galaxy and cause trouble.


umm, The Wraith maybe????



If you do a dual story showing similarities between how the ancients and 'us' deal with this i think it could add the suspense and intrigue and give the show some more depth.

I agree with this last bit though!

Merlin1701
May 21st, 2008, 09:46 AM
Now that season 5 is confirmed and the replicators have been reduced to a handful of ascension fanatics its time we saw the wraith make a comeback, yes they got hit hard by the replicators but they managed to wipe out an entire galaxy of ancients.

The travellers should not be made the big bad guys imo, they should join us in a formal alliance in the pegasus galaxy.

What we need is something new, big, powerful, covering several seasons that can lead into or relate to SG:Universe when it happens.

We've had 4 seasons to get established now we need something legendary such as they did for Babylon 5 over its middle seasons.

I know some of you may not agree but i think the best stories are those that progress the underlying story arc and being the case i think we need something epic.

The Michael arc has the potential to lead into this...
The Replciator arc needs to be settled...
The Travellers should appear more like the Asgard did in a helpful manner... or we help them...
The Wraith either need to be reseated as the main antagonists or become secondary like the Goa'uld did in S9 and S10.
The Universe is infinite and we're travelling around in our 304s to many different galaxies now lets see something spectacular...

I'm open to serious ideas people would like to see...

My idea would be Atlantis dealing less with returning to Earth and more with finding new life... I know pegasus was devoid of life when the ancients colonised it but if it is the pegasus galaxy near Andromeda (again speculation) surely there has to be some big bads in the Andromeda Galaxy.

Even if you don't want to take it outside of Pegasus the current capabilities of our heros are... we easliy destroy wraith ships, we're hiding all the time from the full wraith assault... the wraith are currrently fighting amongst themselves becuase they don't have a large enough threat to take on... which could have happened with the replicators.

We need something new and i hope this new enemy they are talking about in the later part of season 5 becomes that epic adventure that this show needs.

SG1 set the roots, Atlantis was meant to be a means to destroying the Goa'uld, it really didn't help much and we don't hear much about technology that gets adapted from lantean tech for human use.

We need some sort of progression... I think the foothold aliens would make a good new enemy, they were never really developed, they had the tech to come here from another galaxy, there is potential there as there is in alot of aliens races that sg1 developed, we need atlantis to move away from its Lantean-Wraith specifics and branch out a bit.

DO you guys agree or not and why?

You’re talking sense!

I agree that a new "alien" race should be integrated into Atlantis that was introduced in SG1. This would create stronger ties and also make new viewers to the Atlantis show review SG1.

if the team find a form of ancient ship yard this could be a major factor in the integration of the travellers into more episodes.

Metonic
May 25th, 2008, 10:05 PM
i thought SG universe was in the "Hey guys i was taking a dump and thought of this" "yeah yeah that sounds good, we'll tell the studio" stage..

AutumnDream
May 26th, 2008, 03:09 AM
Pretty much.

*writes scripts on at stop light on the way to work on deadline day*

Ltcolshepjumper
May 26th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Now that season 5 is confirmed and the replicators have been reduced to a handful of ascension fanatics its time we saw the wraith make a comeback, yes they got hit hard by the replicators but they managed to wipe out an entire galaxy of ancients.

The travellers should not be made the big bad guys imo, they should join us in a formal alliance in the pegasus galaxy.

What we need is something new, big, powerful, covering several seasons that can lead into or relate to SG:Universe when it happens.

We've had 4 seasons to get established now we need something legendary such as they did for Babylon 5 over its middle seasons.

I know some of you may not agree but i think the best stories are those that progress the underlying story arc and being the case i think we need something epic.

The Michael arc has the potential to lead into this...
The Replciator arc needs to be settled...
The Travellers should appear more like the Asgard did in a helpful manner... or we help them...
The Wraith either need to be reseated as the main antagonists or become secondary like the Goa'uld did in S9 and S10.
The Universe is infinite and we're travelling around in our 304s to many different galaxies now lets see something spectacular...

I'm open to serious ideas people would like to see...

My idea would be Atlantis dealing less with returning to Earth and more with finding new life... I know pegasus was devoid of life when the ancients colonised it but if it is the pegasus galaxy near Andromeda (again speculation) surely there has to be some big bads in the Andromeda Galaxy.

Even if you don't want to take it outside of Pegasus the current capabilities of our heros are... we easliy destroy wraith ships, we're hiding all the time from the full wraith assault... the wraith are currrently fighting amongst themselves becuase they don't have a large enough threat to take on... which could have happened with the replicators.

We need something new and i hope this new enemy they are talking about in the later part of season 5 becomes that epic adventure that this show needs.

SG1 set the roots, Atlantis was meant to be a means to destroying the Goa'uld, it really didn't help much and we don't hear much about technology that gets adapted from lantean tech for human use.

We need some sort of progression... I think the foothold aliens would make a good new enemy, they were never really developed, they had the tech to come here from another galaxy, there is potential there as there is in alot of aliens races that sg1 developed, we need atlantis to move away from its Lantean-Wraith specifics and branch out a bit.

Don't get me wrong I love Stargate and would not stop watching it ever but i think if the stories don't become a bit more indepth and intriguing it could lead to the end of SGA after season 5.

DO you guys agree or not and why?

I agree. I thin the wraith have run their course. Michael's hybrids need to be explored more and perhaps improved upon. Also, Atlantis can introduce many humanoid races in Pegasus that keep to themselves. they could have evolved due to Ancient experimentations or like the Wraith evolved. Atlantis also needs to incorporate elements from Greek/Roman mythology. Atlantis needs to be its own show, though. It shouldn't have to borrow SG-1's races in order to be great.

atfan
May 28th, 2008, 10:20 AM
I agree. I thin the wraith have run their course. Michael's hybrids need to be explored more and perhaps improved upon. Also, Atlantis can introduce many humanoid races in Pegasus that keep to themselves. they could have evolved due to Ancient experimentations or like the Wraith evolved. Atlantis also needs to incorporate elements from Greek/Roman mythology. Atlantis needs to be its own show, though. It shouldn't have to borrow SG-1's races in order to be great.

I agree the hybrids have potential one thing I have disliked about Atlantis *don't shoot me okay?* is the fact that there is basically no allies so to speak of in the Pegasus galaxy that Atlantis can call on to help. What made the BAMSR episode so great was the fact lots of people working together for a common cause. Why not some good Wraith, like Todd maybe others who don't want to have to have to depend on humans for food maybe they could find a way so the Wraith could live on regular food and not need humans for food. More enemies are good but more friends would be even better. Travelers are okay but does Atlantis have any way to get in touch with them? Maybe a long story arc involving some of these elements combined with an interesting storyline include more personal interaction like SG-1 had would improve the series a lot in my opinon.

nx01a
May 28th, 2008, 03:11 PM
I think any sensible aliens in Pegasus would have left, what with the Wraith and all.
SGA is about the Wraith, just like SG-1 was about the Goa'uld. Even when the Ori were introduced, the Goa'uld were still a major threat. Show me the Wraith getting their hands on Furling technology, and we'll talk.:P We've got the knowledge of the Ancients and the Asgard. We should be unstoppable, in theory. Level the playing field a bit.

In terms of a long arc, I think the Michael angle has about another half season in it. I'd like to see the Wraith desperate, hungry, truly merciless and terrifying like they were in the beginning of S1, before various pet Wraith followed us home and we decided to keep them.

Another long-term idea for me is the Genii perfecting their ATA gene experiments and using Ancient technology against both Atlantis and the Wraith. I'd love to see how another set of humans without our sometimes morals would use Ancient technology. Just like the radiation sickness and cancer from their nuclear program, perhaps the gene isn't perfect and those who can use Ancient tech are also dying. An easy copout for us to sympathise with them and have to help/defeat them for their own good.

Lostpinky
June 1st, 2008, 03:47 PM
As much as we all want to see the furlings i don't think that race should ever be brought away from SG1, i think for SG1 they need to do a movie that introduces the furlings.

The mimetic aliens would be my pick for a race to come in and rival the wraith, they had the tech, the will and they were from another galaxy.

Like i said the michael arc seems very shallow to me there is very little to sink your teeth into there.

I agree that the best i think atlantis has offered up has been the BAMSR/SOW double epsiode because it brought so many elements of SGA together. it would be great if they set that up in season five with this new race and spread it over two or more seasons, even if they do get cancelled they finish the story in an sg1 style d2dvd movie.

GoSpikey
June 2nd, 2008, 02:13 PM
Have you not heard that TPTB really, really, really REGRET the Furlings?

:confused:

Lostpinky
June 4th, 2008, 02:01 AM
yeah i heard, but you know, you spend years building this mytho about this race and giving a few snippets here and there eventually you get an audience backlash saying we want them... which is what happened here.

But forget the furlings because your right TPTB regret creating them.

I've been watching eps of s4 again today and the wraith are in ruins, it looks like they need some major turning around to become the main antagonist again, it seems to be a grudge match between michael's forces and the wraith, but still with our single 304 that appears regularly and our hidden base we can take pot shots and win every now and again...

But now there are rumours flying around that Season 5 episode "The Lost Tribe" will bring back the Asgard in some form.

I agree atlantis needs to be its own show and some more latin/roman/greek references need to be interwoven in the pegasus galaxy to fully appriciate the influence the ancients had on that galaxy...

Its nice to bring back some old aliens though some times so we have asense of continuity, that its not like Startrek:TOS and we don't have a different alien each week with one or two recurring aliens.

There are some major directions atlantis could go down and if season five doesn't show a progression for the show i'm afraid it will be Sci-Fi's last SGA season.

Klenotka
June 4th, 2008, 04:42 AM
I don´t understand why they should regret. If they would think a little so instead of bringing some "oh so powerful new race", they could bring Furlings. Why is it so difficult? Where is the problem in doing that? It would make sense that Furlings are in Pegasus, hiding. After thousands of years, they could be something like Vorlons (Babylon 5). Powerful, mysterious, not good, not evil, just *there*. But it´s not their style.
They need some dangerous race that can be destroyed in the end of the season, off-screen, by pushing some magic button. :(

g.o.d
June 4th, 2008, 05:06 AM
I don´t understand why they should regret. If they would think a little so instead of bringing some "oh so powerful new race", they could bring Furlings. Why is it so difficult? Where is the problem in doing that? It would make sense that Furlings are in Pegasus, hiding. After thousands of years, they could be something like Vorlons (Babylon 5). Powerful, mysterious, not good, not evil, just *there*. But it´s not their style.
They need some dangerous race that can be destroyed in the end of the season, off-screen, by pushing some magic button. :(

because it would require back story for the great alliance and I doubt TPTB have something like that. They rather create another powerful new race (which will have same fate as the Ori). It's easier :S