Ultimate MW Replicator ?

[SoulReaver]

(I'm talking real (IDA/MW) replicators, not those ridiculous PG dumbed-down ripoffs)


consider a classic replicator-spider with the following :

- base code is limited to "replicate", nothing else (ie. no preprogrammed weaknesses such as "shut-down" subroutines or the "regroup" command the asgard used to lure them all in one place, etc.). the rest of the code (AI) is entirely devoted to that prime directive

- fully impervious to ARGs (if mere human tech can make ARG-proof replicators, as we've seen on more than 1 occasion (plot hole btw ?) then surely the spiders could achieve this on their own, in fact it's surprising they didn't do so back in s8 (another plot hole ?))
this includes the original ARGs in New Order, the (somehow human-designed) variants, as well as any Dakara-like device


as you can see nothing far-fetched, and the scenario's very much possible (and plausible)



they invade the MW. what would SG's options be ? (aside from mass suicide -)

[pbutter]

Man, i have to say this, we send in Chuck, Chuck Norris !

Ok.., joking aside, if all they do is replicate, and they are impervious to ARG's, then we deal with them the old fashioned way, our projectile weapons, we destroy them at a faster rate then they can replicate, i'll admit, i'm not entirely sure if it's possible, because we dont know how fast they replicate.

[SoulReaver]

kinetic weaponry is hardly a viable option, as we've seen in s8 Reckoning, that is if they plan on anything other than slightly delaying the inevitable

as for Chuck Norris, they'll simply fashion a Chucklicator/Replichuckator. even Chuck Norris won't stand a chance against Chuck Norris !

[s09119]

kinetic weaponry is hardly a viable option, as we've seen in s8 Reckoning, that is if they plan on anything other than slightly delaying the inevitable

Drop a nuke on wherever the queen is.

[Crazy Tom]

Nothing, there is no conventional countermeasure.

Move as many poeple to Pegasus as possible and hope they don't find it.

If thet are programed onyl to self replicate ten the folowing is likely: they will oroginaly go to a planet, complelty consume all it's resources in making ships, from there each ship goes to a different planet, each planet is again devoured and this continues.

They will spread explonencialy acrosss the galaxy till either they've exaustead all usable respurces, or if they have matter ocnversion, till thre's nothing left. I mean they could turn dirt into metal if they had the converter. They woudl simply build some dyson speres and absorb energy, beaming it to the conversters via their subbspace link, or other means. Then all thes ships will leave this now emptly reagion of space and go out to conquer the universe.

[SoulReaver]

Drop a nuke on wherever the queen is.

but they're replicators (the IDA ones) - some blocks will survive and just form new replicators, unless this happens far from any planet. besides, again these things replicate fast, chances are the queens will number in the thousands (and much more soon enough) by the time SG realizes what's going on

destroying a queen won't achieve much anyway, they don't cease to function in the absence of a queen (unlike the borg collective), they'll just rebuild one when they need it

[Crazy Tom]

Drop a nuke on wherever the queen is.

Multyple queens, and when you kill one some drones reforn into a another one.

[s09119]

but they're replicators (the IDA ones) - some blocks will survive and just form new replicators, unless this happens far from any planet. besides, again these things replicate fast, chances are the queens will number in the thousands (and much more soon enough) by the time SG realizes what's going on

destroying a queen won't achieve much anyway, they don't cease to function in the absence of a queen (unlike the borg collective), they'll just rebuild one when they need it

Okay, new idea; drop nukes on the entire area, blanketing it all. Then drop a few more.

[Buba uognarf]

Build an Arcuturis turn it on and let it take out the whole galaxy .

[SoulReaver]

Okay, new idea; drop nukes on the entire area, blanketing it all. Then drop a few more.

statistical consideration imply a few blocks would still survive, and likely adapt to the radiation (which means after a few nukes only the shockwave from the blast would kill those in the surrounding area).

to even have a slight chance of nuking them into oblivion, this would requirie :

- strong enough bomb to completely vapourize everything on a planetary scale (naquadria bomb ?), and that's leaving aside the many replicators who'd be in space ie. nowhere near any planet

- nuking them all at once (good luck finding all of them)


considering how fast they replciate, building enough bombs would also require a ****load of resources to begin with, so much so that it wouldn't even be feasible in theory

[SoulReaver]

Build an Arcuturis turn it on and let it take out the whole galaxy .

and the entire universe while we're at it
a nasty side-effect would be the destruction of all non-replicators as well - and mass-suicide ain't an option ^^

[pbutter]

Activate a planetery wide time dialiation field using the Asgard Core, ZPM and all the energy available to them, then deal with them one by one, or, relocate to a different planet/system and collapse Sol's sun in to a black hole.

[Crazy Tom]

Okay, new idea; drop nukes on the entire area, blanketing it all. Then drop a few more.

You'll just kickstaart the party, Fifth said overloading the Promie's hyperdrive (crater the sise of Kansas?) would only feed them.

[SoulReaver]

Activate a planetery wide time dialiation field using the Asgard Core, ZPM and all the energy available to them, then deal with them one by one, or, relocate to a different planet/system and collapse Sol's sun in to a black hole.

this presupposes they could all be brought in one spot, even then they were shown to be able to counteract the effects of a black hole in ways even the asgards couldn't figure out. so, not an option :/

[s09119]

You'll just kickstaart the party, Fifth said overloading the Promie's hyperdrive (crater the sise of Kansas?) would only feed them.

Now see, that contradicts canon. We know that kinetic force destroys them, and nukes release kinetic force on a massive scale. There's radiation, too, but nothing else but pure, unadulturated, kinetic power there.