PDA

View Full Version : Is it just me or is Asgard tech not really advanced enough...



Jprime
October 22nd, 2004, 06:42 PM
I dont think that Asgard tech is at the level it SHOULD be. Howcome the Belistner (sp) has doors that open when you push a big freaking button on the side of the wall? Howcome the computers are activated by moving around stones? Why bother with screens at all, why not just make use of neural links?

We know that some races use neural links, and with the Asgard intellect (we KNOW they understand how brains work; they transfer consciousness on a daily basis), it should be old hat to attach the brain to a computer.

Why even bother with speech, why not just wire up all the Asgard into a wireless AsgardNet? No more need to confer and waste the few seconds they spend convening!

Why bother???

Erik Pasternak
October 22nd, 2004, 07:44 PM
The answer to all your questions is so that viewers will be able to understand easily, without tons of explaniation.

SnakeHead
October 22nd, 2004, 07:56 PM
I dont think that Asgard tech is at the level it SHOULD be. Howcome the Belistner (sp) has doors that open when you push a big freaking button on the side of the wall? Howcome the computers are activated by moving around stones? Why bother with screens at all, why not just make use of neural links?

We know that some races use neural links, and with the Asgard intellect (we KNOW they understand how brains work; they transfer consciousness on a daily basis), it should be old hat to attach the brain to a computer.

Why even bother with speech, why not just wire up all the Asgard into a wireless AsgardNet? No more need to confer and waste the few seconds they spend convening!

Why bother???

Good point, maybe they do use neural links for the majority of functions.
I would say it is a good old fashioned hands on feel they crave or that it is dangerous to remove manual controls. There have been occasions when they needed other races like humans to assist them with ship operations etc.

Jprime
October 22nd, 2004, 08:23 PM
No-one said they couldnt have backups in case of a malfunction, so perhaps mechanical controls arent totally passe for them.

SnakeHead
October 22nd, 2004, 08:37 PM
No-one said they couldnt have backups in case of a malfunction, so perhaps mechanical controls arent totally passe for them.

Yea If they wanted to have everything automated or controlled by neural link they could do away with hands and transfer their consciousness into a large brain in a jar.

I suppose their hands are a form of mechanical backup as well.

Ancient 1
October 23rd, 2004, 02:18 PM
I dont think that Asgard tech is at the level it SHOULD be. Howcome the Belistner (sp) has doors that open when you push a big freaking button on the side of the wall? Howcome the computers are activated by moving around stones? Why bother with screens at all, why not just make use of neural links?

We know that some races use neural links, and with the Asgard intellect (we KNOW they understand how brains work; they transfer consciousness on a daily basis), it should be old hat to attach the brain to a computer.

Why even bother with speech, why not just wire up all the Asgard into a wireless AsgardNet? No more need to confer and waste the few seconds they spend convening!

Why bother???

It would make for a pretty boring show just to watch as the Asgard "think." :p

aschen
October 23rd, 2004, 02:19 PM
It would make for a pretty boring show just to watch as the Asgard "think." :p

Besides...those glowing Runes look spiffy! :cool:

Mio
October 23rd, 2004, 02:28 PM
When Thor does stuff on his little tablet, It doesn't seem like he's doing enough stuff to make whatever it is he's trying to do happen. There may be some neural link technology involved.

aschen
October 23rd, 2004, 02:49 PM
When Thor does stuff on his little tablet, It doesn't seem like he's doing enough stuff to make whatever it is he's trying to do happen. There may be some neural link technology involved.

Hey, if you arms were that skinny and frail- would you want to move them that much? ;)

AsgardCarnage
October 23rd, 2004, 05:46 PM
yeah i would say its a combo of neural links and hand movments, maybe the like the to touch things, they can hardly move these days they use telports to move anywhere. at most they can only walk a few steps. if they wanted to put their brains into giant robots maybe they could. but then they would be more prone to the replicators, they needs a body and life support the replicators dont wanna eat.

look at humans there are a lot of purists out there how like to do things the old fashion way people write leters instead of email.

we havnb't seen to many other asgaud fly a whole ship by them selfs maybe thor is a purist, he is the supreme commander of the asgaurd fleet whos gunna tell him how to fly his ships?

also the asgaurd might not have advanced very far in the last few hundred years or so depending on how long they have had the cloning problem and been under attack by the replicators. all their scientific efforts would have been pushed toward making new bodies and stopping the replicators.

Major Fischer
October 23rd, 2004, 05:53 PM
No matter how advanced you are, sometimes the simplest way to do something is still the best.

Jprime
October 23rd, 2004, 06:57 PM
Still, aside from ships and clones, the majority of Asgard toys seem to fall inside the same range as Tollan stuff!

Major Fischer
October 23rd, 2004, 07:00 PM
Still, aside from ships and clones, the majority of Asgard toys seem to fall inside the same range as Tollan stuff!

It is never stated that they aren't in the same range as the Tollan stuff. Daniel's estimates that the Tollan were only a few hundred years ahead of us is questionable.... he didn't have a lot of data in Enigma.

Mr Prophet
October 24th, 2004, 12:06 AM
No matter how advanced you are, sometimes the simplest way to do something is still the best.

Maybe they had trouble with neural links in the past. All it takes is one off day and some Asgard thinking stray thoughts of violence and it's goodbye to a small, pre-Industrial world.

Gregorius
October 24th, 2004, 02:02 AM
I agree with JPrime, the Asgard don't look that advanced for a race that has 30.000+ years FTL technology, but imo the Ancients don't look that advanced either.

But what need to take into account is that no new minds are born/brought in the Asgard society, since they clone. This cloning and the lack of new minds will lead to a technological standstill, since always the same people research and there is no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff.

SnakeHead
October 24th, 2004, 02:34 AM
What about the NOX (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/races/n/nox.shtml), they live in shacks in the bush and yet they have the Technology to bring people back to life and ability to hide entire floating cities.

Complexity is definitely not an indication of technological level in this case

Supreme Commander Dave
October 24th, 2004, 04:39 AM
If they had their minds linked up in a network thingy then all sorts of problems could arise.

It could have a malfunction and they all die or a technical problem takes over their minds.

Some rogue power mad asgard (or some other race) could take control and use them to do their bidding. The replicators could take control or destroy their minds in 1 go.

Then think of Star Trek, the Borg, a bunch of brain dead mutants linked to a network controlled by 1 mind? They might have started out with a link which went wrong. :eek:

Jprime
October 24th, 2004, 07:55 AM
What about the NOX (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/races/n/nox.shtml), they live in shacks in the bush and yet they have the Technology to bring people back to life and ability to hide entire floating cities.

Complexity is definitely not an indication of technological level in this case

Ah yes, but the Nox and the Asgard obviously have radically different goals and values, since the Nox are happy to live in the forests, and the Asgard fly around in massive spaceships!

.Ra.
October 24th, 2004, 08:12 AM
I'm pretty sure the Asgard rejected direct interfacing of technology and their minds for obvious reasons. Think of Matrix... We should understand progress in a more complex way than we usually do; I think part of it is discerning the limits that should never be exceeded.

spiceweasel
October 24th, 2004, 11:29 AM
The answer is easy, style and prefrence.

An example would be how our cars look, if they were utilitarian they wouldnt look cool and be able to buy a car that suits you.

Likewise there isnt a perfect technology, it just does what you make it to do and look the way you want it to.

Major Fischer
October 24th, 2004, 11:38 AM
But what need to take into account is that no new minds are born/brought in the Asgard society, since they clone. This cloning and the lack of new minds will lead to a technological standstill, since always the same people research and there is no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff.

That is a very very good point.

Ancient 1
October 24th, 2004, 12:16 PM
What about the NOX (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/races/n/nox.shtml), they live in shacks in the bush and yet they have the Technology to bring people back to life and ability to hide entire floating cities.

Complexity is definitely not an indication of technological level in this case
Those particular Nox are the exception to the rule. ;)

Tok'Ra Hostess
October 25th, 2004, 06:02 AM
[QUOTE=Gregorius]I agree with JPrime, the Asgard don't look that advanced for a race that has 30.000+ years FTL technology, but imo the Ancients don't look that advanced either.

That's always a problem when 20th century minds try to imagine 23rd and 1/2 century alien technologies. :p


But what need to take into account is that no new minds are born/brought in the Asgard society, since they clone. This cloning and the lack of new minds will lead to a technological standstill, since always the same people research and there is no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff.

Yup. Just so. :)

Also, the humanoid form is already technological marvel. You can supplement bio-technology with mechanical/computer tech, but real problems arise when we turn a supplement into a main function. A body's abilities need to be used or it atrophies. Simple example: since the advent of the calculator how many of us can still do simple double-digit multiplication/division in our heads?

The Asgard have become too far removed from their former physical glory and probably want to hold on to as much dexterity as they possibly can for as long as they can.

Gregorius
October 25th, 2004, 06:19 AM
That's always a problem when 20th century minds try to imagine 23rd and 1/2 century alien technologies. :p

Jules Verne was pretty good in that I believe :P

But still if the Asgard are really that super intelligent as they claim they are, why don't they go through the genetics section in the Ancients' library or at least increase their efforts to understand what the Ancients put in their library. But than again that might be a difference between Asgard and Humand mentality ;) :P.



Simple example: since the advent of the calculator how many of us can still do simple double-digit multiplication/division in our heads?

I can still do that :P, but than again I'm kinda against using calculators for everything.


The Asgard have become too far removed from their former physical glory and probably want to hold on to as much dexterity as they possibly can for as long as they can.

Yeah, and since their genome is decaying every time they clone a new body it won't be long before they loose it.

Tyr
October 25th, 2004, 06:57 AM
Is it just me or is Asgard tech not really advanced enough...



advanced enough is entirely relative to what you are trying to do. thay are already advanced enough to: mess with DNA, Travel FTL, clone, beamy transport, holo visions, huge weapons/ships etc etc...

so really they are advanced enough in many respects that other races are trying to advance in.

their problem now is that each time they advance more the replicators eat all the new tech and the asgard are back at square one. they probably made a concious effort to make much of their way of life back to a point where the replicators will ignore tham as inferior tech so they can concentrate on sorting out the clone problem.
think about it. if you were a tech starved replicator would you want some yummy neuroconnected ship or a bland glowy rune controled ship? the asgard are probably far far more capable than we have seen so far they just chose to live well within their means for the time being...

Phenicia
October 25th, 2004, 12:21 PM
What about the NOX, they live in shacks in the bush and yet they have the Technology to bring people back to life and ability to hide entire floating cities.

Complexity is definitely not an indication of technological level in this case



Ah yes, but the Nox and the Asgard obviously have radically different goals and values, since the Nox are happy to live in the forests, and the Asgard fly around in massive spaceships!

If you remember the first encounter with the tollens, the tollens were taken to the Nox homeworld, their new homeworld did not have a stargate. The tollen were able to get to their new homeworld from the Nox homeworld, WITHOUT a gate.

This seems like an indication that the Nox do have vessles capable of space travel. Either that or through the Asgard they got there. But that early on I doubt the Asgard were that interested in this galexy. That was before they met Jack.

Sy~
October 25th, 2004, 01:23 PM
"But what need to take into account is that no new minds are born/brought in the Asgard society, since they clone. This cloning and the lack of new minds will lead to a technological standstill, since always the same people research and there is no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff. "

Thats a load of crap and you know it... Lets go back a little bit, to a certain "Most advanced new ship in the fleet" The O'Neil.. you know the one that Carter decided to blow up in hyperspace to destroy the two Replicator controled Asgard ships. You cant say that the Asgard arnt developing new tech just because they're cloned...
"no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff. "
Thats a load of Horse dumped crap.

The answer only lies in Sy~ solution

"The Asgard really dont care what the hell you think about their tech because they could zap your ass from here to Uranus (Pronounced Your Anus)"

Who's betting Im gonna get a negative load of rep saying "Unintelligent"

Sy~

spg_1983
October 25th, 2004, 01:36 PM
I dont think that Asgard tech is at the level it SHOULD be. Howcome the Belistner (sp) has doors that open when you push a big freaking button on the side of the wall? Howcome the computers are activated by moving around stones? Why bother with screens at all, why not just make use of neural links?

We know that some races use neural links, and with the Asgard intellect (we KNOW they understand how brains work; they transfer consciousness on a daily basis), it should be old hat to attach the brain to a computer.

Why even bother with speech, why not just wire up all the Asgard into a wireless AsgardNet? No more need to confer and waste the few seconds they spend convening!

Why bother???

well if you want to ask those questions then why not ask: why havnt the asgard just transfered their consciences to computers and just abandoned the whole cloning problem? the problem with that is, and this is just my opinion of how i think the asgard think, i personally think it would be cool to access computers with my mind and stuff. the problem is that they already are all clones, there is very little distinctiveness between them as a people. they probably dont want to surrender any more of their "humanity" so to speak. also given the problems they have had with the replicators (you know the whole killing them to the point of extinction and wiping out their galaxy wide empire down to one planet) i bet that they are pretty leery of giving up to much control to compters (think Dune) as for the doors, maybe they do work for asgard, just not for us, besides they beam everywhere anyways so what do they need doors for in the first place? a bigger question about their ships, is why do they make them with halways and stuff so big? even when SG-1 is on board the ceilings are usually at least twice as high as they are tall, thats like four time the height of any asgard. are there really tall asgard around somewhere?

Tyr
October 25th, 2004, 02:11 PM
"But what need to take into account is that no new minds are born/brought in the Asgard society, since they clone. This cloning and the lack of new minds will lead to a technological standstill, since always the same people research and there is no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff. "

Thats a load of crap and you know it... Lets go back a little bit, to a certain "Most advanced new ship in the fleet" The O'Neil.. you know the one that Carter decided to blow up in hyperspace to destroy the two Replicator controled Asgard ships. You cant say that the Asgard arnt developing new tech just because they're cloned...
"no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff. "
Thats a load of Horse dumped crap.




the key word there is lead. degeneration of ideas doesnt happen instantaneously, it takes time. its like reverse evolution in a way. at the moment there are still asgard capable of thinking up new ways of doing things but they are slowly dwindling.

the episode you mention highlights this like no other. thor says something like 'we are no longer capable of thinking of primitive ideas' they need carter to give them the boost of a different perspective on the situation. and eventually they destroyed those perticular replicators

the whole reason the replicators are the problem they are is because the asgard cannot invent new strategies because they have, fatally, become set in their ways. eventually there will be no new ideas at all and the replicators will wipe out the asgard good and proper.

the asgard idea pool is draining, you are wrong that they can continue to develop like before. so before you pick apart someones idea, check that yours is correct beforehand rather than resorting to petty 'your ide is crap' retorts and making yourself out to be a tool.

cheers.

spg_1983
October 25th, 2004, 03:39 PM
Thats a load of crap and you know it... Lets go back a little bit, to a certain "Most advanced new ship in the fleet" The O'Neil.. you know the one that Carter decided to blow up in hyperspace to destroy the two Replicator controled Asgard ships. You cant say that the Asgard arnt developing new tech just because they're cloned...
"no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff. "
Thats a load of Horse dumped crap.


what is a load of horse dumped crap is your answer. the only reason the asgard developed and were able to develop The Oniell is because of the replicators. If the threat of the replicators hadnt arisen they would never have changed and would have lead to their destruction. Thor used the Beiskner for thousands of years before it was destroyed

Madeleine
October 25th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Cup of tea, anyone?

spg_1983
October 25th, 2004, 03:54 PM
Cup of tea, anyone?
i could go for some earl grey!

aAnubiSs
October 25th, 2004, 04:26 PM
What the Asgard should do is this:
1. Copy(not transfer) their minds into machines
2. Get in to a Time-dialation device
3. Make time much faster.
4. When the Machine Asgards are done solving their cloning problem they'll just fix their normal bodies, gather the real bodies memories for the time that has passed, remove the bio-mind, insert the machine-mind in their bodies.

Not only have they solved their cloning problem, they'll also have new weapons, shields and ships thousands of years more advanced then what they have now.

Currently the Asgards problem is that they are unable to think outside the box. They've relied on their technology for thousands of years and had no need to improvise, they just improve their current stuff.

spg_1983
October 25th, 2004, 05:56 PM
What the Asgard should do is this:
1. Copy(not transfer) their minds into machines
2. Get in to a Time-dialation device
3. Make time much faster.
4. When the Machine Asgards are done solving their cloning problem they'll just fix their normal bodies, gather the real bodies memories for the time that has passed, remove the bio-mind, insert the machine-mind in their bodies.

Not only have they solved their cloning problem, they'll also have new weapons, shields and ships thousands of years more advanced then what they have now.

Currently the Asgards problem is that they are unable to think outside the box. They've relied on their technology for thousands of years and had no need to improvise, they just improve their current stuff.
but if it is an exact copy, then isnt the copy a sentient being too? what if the bio-mind doesnt want to leave the body for the machine mind?

Mr Prophet
October 25th, 2004, 11:16 PM
What if the machine minds can't improvise at all? If they're recorded into a data storage unit, maybe they can't actually 'move' - all cerebral activity might be suspended pending reinsertion into a physical body. After all, if the recorded mind was a solution there'd be no problem, since the meat part of the Asgard would be entirely redundant.

Gregorius
October 26th, 2004, 09:31 AM
Thats a load of crap and you know it... Lets go back a little bit, to a certain "Most advanced new ship in the fleet" The O'Neil.. you know the one that Carter decided to blow up in hyperspace to destroy the two Replicator controled Asgard ships. You cant say that the Asgard arnt developing new tech just because they're cloned...
"no new generation of Asgard that might think differently about stuff. "
Thats a load of Horse dumped crap.

See quote below:


Currently the Asgards problem is that they are unable to think outside the box. They've relied on their technology for thousands of years and had no need to improvise, they just improve their current stuff.

What aAnubiSs is saying is a result of what I said before, they're cloning and lack of new minds will lead to standstill in the development of new things. The O'Neill was just a improvement of their current vessels, it only hold a bit more advanced (read as upgraded) technology the Asgard already had. They didn't design a new weapon/ship from scratch to defeat the replicators. So as some other already said, they are beginning to lack the ability to think in new ways, that's why they need the humans so much, since humans are capable of thinking in a different way. You might even say that the Asgard are loosing/lost their ability to adapt to new situations and this doesn't happen at once, this takes centuries or even millenia to occur.

aAnubiSs
October 26th, 2004, 09:53 AM
Would it be possible to put a human intellect in an Asgard body?:) Then add all the Asgard knowledge and voila, you have a supersmart human able to think in ways the Asgard can't.

aAnubiSs
October 26th, 2004, 09:56 AM
but if it is an exact copy, then isnt the copy a sentient being too? what if the bio-mind doesnt want to leave the body for the machine mind?

Yes it would be sentient, but transfering all the original-host' memories for the time the Android-Asgard spent in time dialation makes them the same person, just with more knowledge.

Gregorius
October 26th, 2004, 10:12 AM
Would it be possible to put a human intellect in an Asgard body?:) Then add all the Asgard knowledge and voila, you have a supersmart human able to think in ways the Asgard can't.

I think that a human mind can't handle all Asgard knowledge, and who would give up a human body for an Asgard body ;)

Besides it would still be treating the symptoms instead of the source.

Tok'Ra Hostess
October 26th, 2004, 03:01 PM
I wonder if all that tech isn't at least partly to blame for the demise of the Asgard.(Let's face it, smart or no, they are a dying species.)

What I mean is, perhaps the refining processes for making their tech is detrimental to their health. We know some of the ill effects that can be linked to our industrial way of life, the cumulative effects from heavy metals, pesticides/herbicides, destruction of the ozone, of the web of life, and who knows how many other factors come into play?

Maybe the Asgard are what we will be like in another thousand years - providing we can survive our own advancement, that is.... :(

Colonel
October 26th, 2004, 03:05 PM
The Asgard used to be able to make a multiple Goa'uld Landing platforms and Ha'Taks disappear but now they get raped by Anubis's Ships

SnakeHead
October 27th, 2004, 02:32 AM
advanced enough is entirely relative to what you are trying to do. thay are already advanced enough to: mess with DNA, Travel FTL, clone, beamy transport, holo visions, huge weapons/ships etc etc...

so really they are advanced enough in many respects that other races are trying to advance in.

their problem now is that each time they advance more the replicators eat all the new tech and the asgard are back at square one. they probably made a concious effort to make much of their way of life back to a point where the replicators will ignore tham as inferior tech so they can concentrate on sorting out the clone problem.
think about it. if you were a tech starved replicator would you want some yummy neuroconnected ship or a bland glowy rune controled ship? the asgard are probably far far more capable than we have seen so far they just chose to live well within their means for the time being...

Thought provoking topic.
I think this post has hit the nail on the head.
We did not question the Asgard technological supremacy until they got their asses kicked by Anubis's "Ancient" technology and worn down by relentless replicators seeking them out because they are the most advanced.

pogiangel
July 19th, 2005, 06:24 PM
Thought provoking topic.
I think this post has hit the nail on the head.
We did not question the Asgard technological supremacy until they got their asses kicked by Anubis's "Ancient" technology and worn down by relentless replicators seeking them out because they are the most advanced.
Bah, theyre plenty advanced.

And they have funky ships...

In all seriousness though, We have seen a very limited amount of intel into the asgard. I can only name 5 or 6 of the asgard ... Maybe once they have re-established themselves we will learn more ... and see just how advanced they really are.

(I'm probably going to make a huge fool of myself here, but...) When did the Asgard ever get "their asses kicked by Anubis's 'Ancient' tech..." ? I do recall Osiris blowing up Thor and his ship, but also making a quick retreat when Freyr came with better ships... ? (One of which is a part of my signature) :cool:

Jerome

_Owen_
July 19th, 2005, 07:12 PM
Well, the first post of this thread is right, there are technologies that, if put into use, would greatly increase the proficiency of the Asgard in general. I believe the Asgard are perfectly capable of doing this.

On another note, and in response to the posts regarding the Asgard technological state in comparison to the Goa'uld.

The Asgard can take on the Goa'uld any day of the week, thier technology greatly exceeds anything that we could hope for in the next hundred years. The reason the Asgard failed against Anubis was because Anubis was using Ancient knowledge and technology, he was cheating, we cannot consider him "Goa'uld," in the traditional sense. The reason the replicators were able to defeat the Asgard was not because the replicators were more powerful than they but because the replicators were given the power to adapt, like the Borg. The Asgard had the means to stop the replicators, in the sense that they were on the right track with the Kiron Pathway Disruptor, however they did not have the knowledge or technology. If I was in a war with an island of creatures that were too small to fight with armies, and to widespread to fight from the air, one course of action may be a nuclear strike. A nuclear strike could desimate the whole area instantly killing all of them. So I know what I need to do, build a nuke, I know how to build a nuke, but I can't, because I don't have the parts that I need, I don't normally keep weapons grade plutonium in my basement. The Asgard were in a similar situation, they knew what they needed to do, and they had the parts, but they didn't know how to do it, that is where the Ancient knowledge helped out.

The Asgard are very advanced, we yearn for even a miniscule slice of their technology, simply because they choose not to emply a neural network or refuse to do away with their push buttons, is no reason to consider them "not advanced enough," we were not able to defeat Anubis or the Replicators by our selves, we needed the help of Ancient technology, we defeated the Goa'uld, but not by killing them all, their Jaffa turned on them when we siezed the temple at Dakara, plenty of times we have lost in battle, so are we also , "not advanced enough?"

The point is, who are we to say who is advanced enough and who isn't, who has better technology and who doesn't, who are we to make desicions like that, the Ancients may consider us not advanced enough, and a race even more advanced than they would consider them not advanced enough. Personally, I see saying that the Asgard are not advanced enough is disrespectful, look at all the stuff they have helped us with, they gave us a whole smattering of technology for the Daedalus. They are thousands of years more advanced than us, and we have the audacity to say they are not advanced enough. it would be like a mosquito telling us that we weren't advanced enough, we would probably be shocked, "excuse me, look at you guys, you don't even wear clothes, and for all we know you can't even think! (stunned in disbelief)" That would probably be the reaction of some people, so you go to the Asgard and tell them:

"You aren't advanced enough, we will come back and meet you guys again in a couple hundred years to see if you have progressed enough to re-open diplomatic relations."

Owen Macri

apollo22
March 29th, 2007, 02:17 PM
I dont think that Asgard tech is at the level it SHOULD be. Howcome the Belistner (sp) has doors that open when you push a big freaking button on the side of the wall? Howcome the computers are activated by moving around stones? Why bother with screens at all, why not just make use of neural links?

We know that some races use neural links, and with the Asgard intellect (we KNOW they understand how brains work; they transfer consciousness on a daily basis), it should be old hat to attach the brain to a computer.

Why even bother with speech, why not just wire up all the Asgard into a wireless AsgardNet? No more need to confer and waste the few seconds they spend convening!

Why bother???



first, the reason the beliskner had the "big freaking buttons" were to manually open the doors. there is an airlock so u have to push a button to open that. and the buttons on the inside could be used for containment reasons. when jack and tealc are walking through the ship, there are no doors closed except for the one thor is in to protect him and the replicators were in the other rooms with the doors closed. plus if they didnt have doors every 30 feet or so, if there was a hull breach, everyone or everything would die because they wouldnt be able to seal of the section of the ship that has the hull breach. it is the same kind of thing in naval ships. if they didnt have hatches and there was a leak, the whole ship would flood.

about the visual interface. if you notice when hermoid is on the daedalus and doing stuff on his nice asgard curved pad, his back is to the veiwing screen. so that would say they have some sort of nerualinterface with the little stones they are moving around. i think the visual interface is for humans to see.

Exiled Master
March 29th, 2007, 02:40 PM
I think I know how they could have saved themselves. Take a bunch of abducted (preferably advanced) humans to a planet with the time dilation device on it. Set it to fast forward a few hundred years and poof! An entire race of advanced humans fit for use as vessels for the Asgard! Even if this new race weren't tailor made for them, it would be much closer to their specifications then any other humans they have experimented on.

PG15
March 29th, 2007, 06:35 PM
There are so many things wrong with that it's not even funny; you're taking people from their homes, making them live for hundreds of years just so at the end their minds can be taken over by others.

That is sick.

MechaThor
March 30th, 2007, 02:31 AM
The Asgaurd only got betern as both anuis and the Replicators where usning technology even greater than their own. They also would have been much greater in their time however genetic problems and nasty techno bugs haulted most of their developement.

I think they are advanced and if they wanted and still could think outof the box would kick butt. however you got to remember.....
They may be advanced to use but not when compared 2 others