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    A New Spoiler Poem to Decode: Season 5 Edition

    Alright folks, now that Season 4 is over, it's time to turn our attention to Season 5 and what JM's spoiler poem can reveal to us. If you're just joining us, Joe Mallozzi, Co-Executive Producer of Stargate Atlantis Season 4/5, has written up a poem (Link), with each line shedding light on the contents of a single episode in the backhalf of Season 4 and most of Season 5. 10 lines have already been eliminated as Season 4 episodes, leaving 14 behind for Season 5. Do note, however, that the episode "The Queen (509)" will most likely not be included in the poem since it was only thought up after the poem's creation. This is just my guess though.

    So, here is the poem with the Season 4 lines, and the non-episode lines removed:

    The brilliant one slowly loses his mind,
    While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind.

    While Sheppard battles some really bad luck.

    A corpse is discovered and John plays detective.
    The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed (CONFIRMED)

    Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action,

    A battle is waged on the defender’s home field,

    A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue (CONFIRMED)

    The status quo shifts, a power play made.
    The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

    An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties (CONFIRMED)
    And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst.

    Atlantis the target of a mysterious race,
    While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations (CONFIRMED)
    Here are the Season 5 episodes:

    Search and Rescue (501)
    The Seed (502)
    Broken Ties (503)
    The Daedalus Variations (504)
    Ghost in the Machine (505)
    The Shrine (506)
    Whispers (507)
    (The Queen (508) not included)
    Tracker (509)
    First Contact (510)
    The Lost Tribe (511)
    Inquisition (512)
    Outsiders (513)
    The Prodigal (514)
    Remnants (515)
    (Brain Storm (516) not included)
    (Identity (51?) not included)
    (Infection (51?) not included)
    Vegas (519)
    "The 100th Episode" (520)
    The Cooper-McCullough Shep-Whump episode (Hexed), which has been shelved.

    So, match 'em up...if you can.

    The Season 4 thread is here. Updates are below:

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    UPDATE 1:

    PG15 also writes: “1. Are the mid-season 2-parter given 2 clues, like The Kindred Part 1 and 2 each getting a line in the poem? 2. Are they for the first 14 episodes of the season (minus The Queen, since you guys made that up after you wrote the poem), or are they for just 14 episodes within the season? I ask because I have a hunch that “While myriad permutations are viewed from space” refers to the 100th episode.”

    Answer: Actually, two clues for the two-parter - and both apply to part one. 2. The hints refer to 14 episodes within the body of the fifth season. And your guess is incorrect.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...va-at-the-met/

    UPDATE 2: Search and Rescue is gone...

    And in case you weren’t able to figure it out, the line “A mission is snagged by an untimely birth.” is a reference to Search and Rescue, our fifth season premiere.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...d-the-mailbag/

    UPDATE 3: The Seed is vanquished...

    PG15 writes: “Well, since I’m here, I might as well beg you to reveal the line in the spoiler poem that relates to The Seed.”

    Answer: “The city assailed by mutations infective”.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...mucho-mailbag/

    UPDATE 4: Broken Ties is broken no more...

    PG15 writes: “Oh, and Joe, do you mind revealing the line in the spoiler poem that’s for “Broken Ties”?”

    Answer: Sure. “An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed”.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...the-happening/

    UPDATE 5: The Daedalus Variations...uh...varies no more...

    PG15 writes: “So Joe, how’s about revealing the spoiler poem line for The Daedalus Variations?”

    Answer: Sure. “While myriad permutations are viewed from space.”
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...se-of-the-day/
    Last edited by PG15; 06 August 2008, 05:08 PM.

    #2
    You've already guessed most of these, but here's my guesses....

    The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Shrine of Talus
    While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

    While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. -Super Shep Whump episode

    A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Amort? wild guess
    The city assailed by mutations infective.

    Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - Midseason finale with Daniel Jackson

    A battle is waged on the defender’s home field,

    A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

    The status quo shifts, a power play made. - The Seed
    The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

    An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
    And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

    Atlantis the target of a mysterious race,
    While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - Daedalus Variations
    Last edited by Killdeer; 10 March 2008, 05:24 PM.
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      #3
      I've thought about it some more and came up with...

      The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
      While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

      While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed

      A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Vegas
      The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed

      Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact

      A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - The Prodigal

      A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

      The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
      The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Tracker

      An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
      And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

      Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
      While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations
      My reasons...

      Spoiler:
      We know Brad Wright's episode is McKay centered.
      The new spoilers for Daedalus Variations make it sound like it's about replacements from an AU.
      Whispers is touted as a "creature feature".
      Sheppard is tracking a murderer = tracker.
      Last edited by PG15; 15 July 2008, 08:00 PM.

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        #4
        The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Untitled Brad Wright episode
        That's an excellent guess - the Brad Wright ep is supposed to be a McKay story. Can I add that to my post if you don't mind?
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          #5
          Don't mind at all.

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            #6
            The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, -
            While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. -The hybrids replacement of the wraith

            While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. -Gshep goes back in time , then a building falls on him

            A corpse is discovered and John plays detective.
            The city assailed by mutations infective.

            Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, Dainial Jackson ?

            A battle is waged on the defender’s home field,

            A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. Teylas baby. .

            The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Michael gains power
            The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

            An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed,- This COULD be Michael , Carson or Todd ??
            And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. -Carson . .Michael etc . .

            Atlantis the target of a mysterious race,
            While myriad permutations are viewed from space.

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              #7
              Alright, I'll try my hand at this...

              The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Untitled McKay epi by Wright
              While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. -?

              While Sheppard battles some really bad luck.-Shep Whump feature

              A corpse is discovered and John plays detective.- ?
              The city assailed by mutations infective. - ?

              Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, -Midseason 2 parter

              A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - ?

              A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. -Search and Rescue

              The status quo shifts, a power play made. - ex-Weir epi
              The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - ?

              An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, -Broken Ties
              And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. -Kolya's return epi

              Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, -Whispers
              While myriad permutations are viewed from space. -Daedalus Variations
              Of course, I could be entirely wrong here...

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                #8
                Originally posted by PG15 View Post
                I've thought about it some more and came up with...



                My reasons...

                Spoiler:
                We know Brad Wright's episode is McKay centered.
                The new spoilers for Daedalus Variations make it sound like it's about replacements from an AU.
                Whispers is touted as a "creature feature".
                Sheppard is tracking a murderer = tracker.
                I believe the Whispers spoilers we have point to it being an offworld ep...
                Spoiler:
                The concept art was about an abandoned village, and Joe M. has said that Carson will be stranded off-world with an all female team. So I doubt the 'city assailed' line is about Whispers.


                I would also switch your guesses for Search and Rescue and The Seed. The name of the second episode alone implies the birth.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by wheresmyfroggy View Post
                  I believe the Whispers spoilers we have point to it being an offworld ep...
                  Spoiler:
                  The concept art was about an abandoned village, and Joe M. has said that Carson will be stranded off-world with an all female team. So I doubt the 'city assailed' line is about Whispers.


                  I would also switch your guesses for Search and Rescue and The Seed. The name of the second episode alone implies the birth.
                  I agree with you about Whispers, but spoilers that were released and then pulled for
                  Spoiler:
                  Search and Rescue said that Teyla has her baby in that episode.
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                    #10
                    Yeah, I had real trouble placing Whispers...

                    I guess "The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed" could work...some how.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by PG15 View Post
                      Yeah, I had real trouble placing Whispers...

                      I guess "The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed" could work...some how.
                      I thought we had a strong hint from JM that that line refers to Woolsey's arrival?
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                        The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Untitled Brad Wright episode (see PG15's initial post)
                        While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Search and Rescue (Sam returns to Earth)

                        While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Search and Rescue (I'd call the end of The Last Man bad luck)

                        A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Amort (means death = corpse)
                        The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed (Keller-centric episode)

                        Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, -
                        "The Daniel Jackson 2-parter" (Dr. Jackson)

                        A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, -
                        Search and Rescue (takes place in Michael's compound)

                        A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - The Queen (Telya-centric story)

                        The status quo shifts, a power play made. -
                        The Seed (Politics involved according to GW spoilers)
                        The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. -
                        Search and Rescue (Sam returns to Earth, Woolsey takes charge)

                        An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties (The Wraith try to turn Ronon)
                        And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine
                        (Ghost = ghost, get it?)

                        Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - Whispers (Mystery = whispers)
                        While myriad permutations are viewed from space.- The Daedalus Variations (Permutations = variations, ha!)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Killdeer View Post
                          I thought we had a strong hint from JM that that line refers to Woolsey's arrival?
                          Wow...yeah:

                          The status quo shifts, a power play made.
                          The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.refers to Woolsey taking coming to Atlantis?”


                          Answer: My, my, my. That does look like a good guess.
                          Nice memory! I didn't even remember that. Ok...man, this is hard.

                          Alright new theory: Ghost in the Machine is not the "ghost from the past"; what if the "creature" in Whispers is the ghost? JM did talk about fog...

                          And Ghost in the Machine can be the "battle waged on defender's home field" because...hey, it sounds like another Atlantis-goes-nuts episode. What the heck.

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                            #14
                            What do you think about this pic though?

                            http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpres...3/dsc05366.jpg

                            This is kind of why I was thinking Daedalus Variations for the last line.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by PG15 View Post
                              Wow...yeah:



                              Nice memory! I didn't even remember that. Ok...man, this is hard.

                              Alright new theory: Ghost in the Machine is not the "ghost from the past"; what if the "creature" in Whispers is the ghost? JM did talk about fog...

                              And Ghost in the Machine can be the "battle waged on defender's home field" because...hey, it sounds like another Atlantis-goes-nuts episode. What the heck.
                              I agree with all of this. Looks like we're all making some good headway.
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