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PG15
March 9th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Alright folks, now that Season 4 is over, it's time to turn our attention to Season 5 and what JM's spoiler poem can reveal to us. If you're just joining us, Joe Mallozzi, Co-Executive Producer of Stargate Atlantis Season 4/5, has written up a poem (Link (http://josephmallozzi.blogspot.com/2007/12/december-31-2007.html)), with each line shedding light on the contents of a single episode in the backhalf of Season 4 and most of Season 5. 10 lines have already been eliminated as Season 4 episodes, leaving 14 behind for Season 5. Do note, however, that the episode "The Queen (509)" will most likely not be included in the poem since it was only thought up after the poem's creation. This is just my guess though.

So, here is the poem with the Season 4 lines, and the non-episode lines removed:


The brilliant one slowly loses his mind,
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind.

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck.

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective.
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed (CONFIRMED)

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action,

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field,

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue (CONFIRMED)

The status quo shifts, a power play made.
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties (CONFIRMED)
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst.

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race,
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations (CONFIRMED)

Here are the Season 5 episodes:

Search and Rescue (501) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=49298)
The Seed (502) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=50530)
Broken Ties (503) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=49651)
The Daedalus Variations (504) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=51361)
Ghost in the Machine (505) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=51403)
The Shrine (506) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=52104)
Whispers (507) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=50948)
(The Queen (508) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=52103) not included)
Tracker (509) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=52102)
First Contact (510) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=53393)
The Lost Tribe (511) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=53395)
Inquisition (512) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=53177)
Outsiders (513) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=54544)
The Prodigal (514) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=54062)
Remnants (515) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=54543)
(Brain Storm (516) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=54793) not included)
(Identity (51?) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=55535) not included)
(Infection (51?) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=55536) not included)
Vegas (519) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=54106)
"The 100th Episode" (520) (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=54549)
The Cooper-McCullough Shep-Whump episode (Hexed), which has been shelved.

So, match 'em up...if you can. ;)

The Season 4 thread is here (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=49894). Updates are below:

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UPDATE 1:


PG15 also writes: “1. Are the mid-season 2-parter given 2 clues, like The Kindred Part 1 and 2 each getting a line in the poem? 2. Are they for the first 14 episodes of the season (minus The Queen, since you guys made that up after you wrote the poem), or are they for just 14 episodes within the season? I ask because I have a hunch that “While myriad permutations are viewed from space” refers to the 100th episode.”

Answer: Actually, two clues for the two-parter - and both apply to part one. 2. The hints refer to 14 episodes within the body of the fifth season. And your guess is incorrect.



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/march-23-2008-my-craptastic-dinner-at-diva-at-the-met/

UPDATE 2: Search and Rescue is gone...


And in case you weren’t able to figure it out, the line “A mission is snagged by an untimely birth.” is a reference to Search and Rescue, our fifth season premiere.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/july-15-2008-our-class-field-trip-unwelcome-bodies-discussion-and-the-mailbag/

UPDATE 3: The Seed is vanquished...


PG15 writes: “Well, since I’m here, I might as well beg you to reveal the line in the spoiler poem that relates to The Seed.”

Answer: “The city assailed by mutations infective”.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/july-20-2008-tipping-the-scales-okinomiyaki-no-show-and-mucho-mailbag/

UPDATE 4: Broken Ties is broken no more...


PG15 writes: “Oh, and Joe, do you mind revealing the line in the spoiler poem that’s for “Broken Ties”?”

Answer: Sure. “An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed”.


http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/july-31-2008-the-happening/

UPDATE 5: The Daedalus Variations...uh...varies no more...


PG15 writes: “So Joe, how’s about revealing the spoiler poem line for The Daedalus Variations?”

Answer: Sure. “While myriad permutations are viewed from space.”

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/august-6-2008-healing-mind-waves-dr-jack-daniels-restorative-elixir-and-the-weird-food-purchase-of-the-day/

Killdeer
March 9th, 2008, 04:35 PM
You've already guessed most of these, but here's my guesses....


The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Shrine of Talus
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. -Super Shep Whump episode

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Amort? wild guess
The city assailed by mutations infective.

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - Midseason finale with Daniel Jackson

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field,

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - The Seed
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race,
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - Daedalus Variations

PG15
March 9th, 2008, 04:40 PM
I've thought about it some more and came up with...


The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Vegas
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - The Prodigal

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Tracker

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations


My reasons...

We know Brad Wright's episode is McKay centered.
The new spoilers for Daedalus Variations make it sound like it's about replacements from an AU.
Whispers is touted as a "creature feature".
Sheppard is tracking a murderer = tracker. :D

Killdeer
March 9th, 2008, 04:43 PM
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Untitled Brad Wright episode

That's an excellent guess - the Brad Wright ep is supposed to be a McKay story. Can I add that to my post if you don't mind? :D

PG15
March 9th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Don't mind at all. :D

Valos Cor
March 9th, 2008, 05:02 PM
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, -
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. -The hybrids replacement of the wraith

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. -Gshep goes back in time , then a building falls on him

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective.
The city assailed by mutations infective.

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, Dainial Jackson ?

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field,

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. Teylas baby. .

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Michael gains power
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed,- This COULD be Michael , Carson or Todd ??
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. -Carson . .Michael etc . .

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race,
While myriad permutations are viewed from space.

The TARDIS
March 9th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Alright, I'll try my hand at this...


The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Untitled McKay epi by Wright
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. -?

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck.-Shep Whump feature

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective.- ?
The city assailed by mutations infective. - ?

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, -Midseason 2 parter

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - ?

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. -Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - ex-Weir epi
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - ?

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, -Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. -Kolya's return epi

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, -Whispers
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. -Daedalus Variations

Of course, I could be entirely wrong here...:P

wheresmyfroggy
March 9th, 2008, 06:36 PM
I've thought about it some more and came up with...



My reasons...

We know Brad Wright's episode is McKay centered.
The new spoilers for Daedalus Variations make it sound like it's about replacements from an AU.
Whispers is touted as a "creature feature".
Sheppard is tracking a murderer = tracker. :D

I believe the Whispers spoilers we have point to it being an offworld ep...
The concept art was about an abandoned village, and Joe M. has said that Carson will be stranded off-world with an all female team. So I doubt the 'city assailed' line is about Whispers.

I would also switch your guesses for Search and Rescue and The Seed. The name of the second episode alone implies the birth.

Killdeer
March 9th, 2008, 06:54 PM
I believe the Whispers spoilers we have point to it being an offworld ep...
The concept art was about an abandoned village, and Joe M. has said that Carson will be stranded off-world with an all female team. So I doubt the 'city assailed' line is about Whispers.

I would also switch your guesses for Search and Rescue and The Seed. The name of the second episode alone implies the birth.

I agree with you about Whispers, but spoilers that were released and then pulled for Search and Rescue said that Teyla has her baby in that episode.

PG15
March 9th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Yeah, I had real trouble placing Whispers...

I guess "The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed" could work...some how.

Killdeer
March 9th, 2008, 07:06 PM
Yeah, I had real trouble placing Whispers...

I guess "The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed" could work...some how.

I thought we had a strong hint from JM that that line refers to Woolsey's arrival?

Lord You
March 9th, 2008, 07:21 PM
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Untitled Brad Wright episode (see PG15's initial post)
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Search and Rescue (Sam returns to Earth)

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Search and Rescue (I'd call the end of The Last Man bad luck)

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Amort (means death = corpse)
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed (Keller-centric episode)

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - "The Daniel Jackson 2-parter" (Dr. Jackson)

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - Search and Rescue (takes place in Michael's compound)

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - The Queen (Telya-centric story)

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - The Seed (Politics involved according to GW spoilers)
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Search and Rescue (Sam returns to Earth, Woolsey takes charge)

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties (The Wraith try to turn Ronon)
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine (Ghost = ghost, get it?)

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - Whispers (Mystery = whispers)
While myriad permutations are viewed from space.- The Daedalus Variations (Permutations = variations, ha!)

PG15
March 9th, 2008, 08:23 PM
I thought we had a strong hint from JM that that line refers to Woolsey's arrival?

Wow...yeah:


The status quo shifts, a power play made.
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.refers to Woolsey taking coming to Atlantis?”

Answer: My, my, my. That does look like a good guess.


Nice memory! :D I didn't even remember that. Ok...man, this is hard.

Alright new theory: Ghost in the Machine is not the "ghost from the past"; what if the "creature" in Whispers is the ghost? JM did talk about fog...

And Ghost in the Machine can be the "battle waged on defender's home field" because...hey, it sounds like another Atlantis-goes-nuts episode. What the heck.

Killdeer
March 9th, 2008, 08:28 PM
What do you think about this pic though?

http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/dsc05366.jpg

This is kind of why I was thinking Daedalus Variations for the last line.

wheresmyfroggy
March 9th, 2008, 09:27 PM
Wow...yeah:



Nice memory! :D I didn't even remember that. Ok...man, this is hard.

Alright new theory: Ghost in the Machine is not the "ghost from the past"; what if the "creature" in Whispers is the ghost? JM did talk about fog...

And Ghost in the Machine can be the "battle waged on defender's home field" because...hey, it sounds like another Atlantis-goes-nuts episode. What the heck.

I agree with all of this. Looks like we're all making some good headway. :)

The TARDIS
March 9th, 2008, 10:46 PM
Wow...yeah:



Nice memory! :D I didn't even remember that. Ok...man, this is hard.

Alright new theory: Ghost in the Machine is not the "ghost from the past"; what if the "creature" in Whispers is the ghost? JM did talk about fog...

And Ghost in the Machine can be the "battle waged on defender's home field" because...hey, it sounds like another Atlantis-goes-nuts episode. What the heck.

I still think the "And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst" line refers to Robert Davi's return... what would leave Atlantis feeling more dismayed if they cut into Michael's power base and leave the Wraith severely weakened, as some spoilers seem to suggestonly to have Acastus Kolya rear his head again, this time as leader of a new "Genii Alliance" or whatever. :P

Killdeer
March 9th, 2008, 10:50 PM
I still think the "And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst" line refers to Robert Davi's return... what would leave Atlantis feeling more dismayed if they cut into Michael's power base and leave the Wraith severely weakened, as some spoilers seem to suggestonly to have Acastus Kolya rear his head again, this time as leader of a new "Genii Alliance" or whatever. :P

Wow. I can't see how they could bring him back, but that would be completely awesome. :D

wheresmyfroggy
March 10th, 2008, 06:56 AM
I still think the "And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst" line refers to Robert Davi's return... what would leave Atlantis feeling more dismayed if they cut into Michael's power base and leave the Wraith severely weakened, as some spoilers seem to suggestonly to have Acastus Kolya rear his head again, this time as leader of a new "Genii Alliance" or whatever. :P

Um... this would completely make my life. I could die happy if Kolya came back. They shouldn't have killed him in the first place.

This post cheered me up! I was all sad because I'm about to go take a final. Thanks! :)

Tupopoflungo
March 10th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Wow...yeah:



Nice memory! :D I didn't even remember that. Ok...man, this is hard.

Alright new theory: Ghost in the Machine is not the "ghost from the past"; what if the "creature" in Whispers is the ghost? JM did talk about fog...

And Ghost in the Machine can be the "battle waged on defender's home field" because...hey, it sounds like another Atlantis-goes-nuts episode. What the heck.

The moment I read this, an idea was sparked in my head.

Anyone remember the "Fog" in the season 1 episode "Home"

The "fog" had the ability to make up a reality that the people could not tell the difference from the real reality without looking closely. so Ghost in the Machine, with the clue "Battle waged on Defender's homefield" might mean that somehow the fog gets into Atlantis, and starts taking over the minds of the team, because, well really, we are all just biological machines...and it would be on our homefield. And perhaps the "Fog" wont let us go? because it needs something....

I dont know...just a bunch of random babble that popped into my head upon reading your post...

The TARDIS
March 10th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Um... this would completely make my life. I could die happy if Kolya came back. They shouldn't have killed him in the first place.

This post cheered me up! I was all sad because I'm about to go take a final. Thanks! :)

Anytime... and I agree with you whole heartedly! Kolya was easily SGA's best villain, he made Michael look like an amateur:P

But both JM and Davi have mentioned that an episode is in the work that will have the return of Kolya...it was supposed to take place in Season 4, but apparently it didn't fit (they likely didn't want it to get buried in the Replicator War arc and the Athosian arc), so they've bumped it to season 5...see here (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2007/05/will_robert_davi_return_to_istar.shtml)


The moment I read this, an idea was sparked in my head.

Anyone remember the "Fog" in the season 1 episode "Home"

The "fog" had the ability to make up a reality that the people could not tell the difference from the real reality without looking closely. so Ghost in the Machine, with the clue "Battle waged on Defender's homefield" might mean that somehow the fog gets into Atlantis, and starts taking over the minds of the team, because, well really, we are all just biological machines...and it would be on our homefield. And perhaps the "Fog" wont let us go? because it needs something....

I dont know...just a bunch of random babble that popped into my head upon reading your post...

Ohh...that sounds really interesting!

But, I think you're reading a little too much into this, mate. I don't think that idea even crossed TPTB's mind :P

PG15
March 10th, 2008, 04:20 PM
What do you think about this pic though?

http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/dsc05366.jpg

This is kind of why I was thinking Daedalus Variations for the last line.

Actually, that's precisely why I chose what I chose.

I interpreted it to mean that we'll get a replacement Daedalus from another dimension that will trouble us

BubblingOverWithIdeas
March 12th, 2008, 02:42 PM
I'm curious about 'Amort'. Could be the detective ep as Lord You suggested, or the extreme Shep Wump ep. I found the following definition for "amort" on Wiktionary: As if dead; lifeless; spiritless; dejected; depressed.

mr_kennedy
March 13th, 2008, 03:55 PM
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, (Mckay's centric episode)
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. (the daedalus variations, captain sobol any1?)

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. (the queen, the shep whump episode)

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. (im thinking ghost in the machine)
The city assailed by mutations infective. (same eppy)

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, (daniel jackson two parter)

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, (ronin's satedan friend, broken ties maybe)

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. (obviously teyla's baby, search and rescue)

The status quo shifts, a power play made. (whoolsey in search and rescue or even the seed)
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. ------- hopefully the season finale and it plays out for keller (minus the dying) excactly the way older hologram Mckay said it would (keller falling out with the ioa and leaves atlantis)

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, (carson)
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. (i would say weir but we all know its not, so carson)

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, (the Daedalus variations)
While myriad permutations are viewed from space.

thats my take on it

mr_kennedy
March 13th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Actually, that's precisely why I chose what I chose.

I interpreted it to mean that we'll get a replacement Daedalus from another dimension that will trouble us

either that or from the future

Jumper_One
March 13th, 2008, 04:19 PM
either that or from the future

I doubt it. we've seen enough time travel for at least another 15-20 eps imo

wheresmyfroggy
March 13th, 2008, 05:30 PM
I doubt it. we've seen enough time travel for at least another 15-20 eps imo

Haha, agreed. Two-fold, actually, because I ended up watching Moebius I and II today, which just gave me an uber-headache.

jonos101
March 14th, 2008, 02:43 AM
"ghost from the past" could mean ford :D
and i think "a battle is raged on the defenders home turf" was for BAMSR

chensuu
March 14th, 2008, 04:22 AM
"ghost from the past" could mean ford :D
and i think "a battle is raged on the defenders home turf" was for BAMSR

Poor Ford! :ford:

But "ghost from the past" can also mean, Kolya! And so far we don't have any information on a Sheppard centered episode for the first half yet, so who knows?

Maybe if I keep my fingers crossed?

PG15
March 14th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Every line here refers to Season 5 episodes...

jonos101
March 14th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Every line here refers to Season 5 episodes...

are u sure, i really thought it was about BAMSR, DAM :o

Jumper_One
March 14th, 2008, 02:13 PM
are u sure, i really thought it was about BAMSR, DAM :o

the line for BAMSR is

The key to success is compress not diffuse

jamesgilfoyle
March 14th, 2008, 02:25 PM
The status quo shifts, a power play made.
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

That is just screaming woolsey to me :P

SteelGate
March 16th, 2008, 07:06 AM
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - Shrine of Talus
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. -Super Shep Whump episode

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Amort? wild guess
The city assailed by mutations infective.

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - Midseason finale with Daniel Jackson

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field,-Wraith on Earth (2 parter with Daniel?)

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - The Seed
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed.

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race,
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - Daedalus Variations

PG15
March 16th, 2008, 01:24 PM
Here's a thought: there were 2 lines for "The Kindred" despite the fact that it was a single story (2-parter); thus, the mid-season finale is probably split into two lines as well.

One of them is obviously "Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action", but since we're dealing with new enemies here, could another line be "Atlantis the target of a mysterious race"? Or the other way around?

Jumper_One
March 16th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Here's a thought: there were 2 lines for "The Kindred" despite the fact that it was a single story (2-parter); thus, the mid-season finale is probably split into two lines as well.

ooh I hadn't thought of that, thanks for the reminder ;) but does the poem include Part 2 of the mid-season two-parter? I thought it was just for the back half of 4 and first half of s5


One of them is obviously "Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action", but since we're dealing with new enemies here, could another line be "Atlantis the target of a mysterious race"? Or the other way around?

I agree with the first line, it's pretty obvious. regarding Part 2, if Daniel discovers the new enemy then you're probably right about the second line. or what about this?
A battle is waged on the defender’s home field

PG15
March 16th, 2008, 02:04 PM
ooh I hadn't thought of that, thanks for the reminder ;) but does the poem include Part 2 of the mid-season two-parter? I thought it was just for the back half of 4 and first half of s5

Nope; the poem includes every idea they had for Season 5 at the time, which totaled up to 15 episodes (though the Shep Whump is kind of in limbo at the moment).




I agree with the first line, it's pretty obvious. regarding Part 2, if Daniel discovers the new enemy then you're probably right about the second line. or what about this?

Could be. Though maybe that's the season finale? Could happen. We find them in the mid-season 2-parter, and they attack in the season finale, just like always. ;)

Or, and this would be kind of a cheat: we find the aliens in the first half of the mid-season 2-parter, Danny arrives at the end of the episode, and the mid-season premier episode will be "call the doctor from earth to help us take action", like they did with Beckett.

Oy...come on Season 5!

Jumper_One
March 16th, 2008, 02:28 PM
Nope; the poem includes every idea they had for Season 5 at the time, which totaled up to 15 episodes (though the Shep Whump is kind of in limbo at the moment).

oh ok. but 10 eps (s4.5)+ 15 eps (s5)=25 eps and there are only 24 lines :confused:


Could be. Though maybe that's the season finale? Could happen. We find them in the mid-season 2-parter, and they attack in the season finale, just like always. ;)

hm maybe. however it would kinda remind me of The Siege


Or, and this would be kind of a cheat: we find the aliens in the first half of the mid-season 2-parter, Danny arrives at the end of the episode, and the mid-season premier episode will be "call the doctor from earth to help us take action", like they did with Beckett.

that's possible but I think Daniel will be in both Parts. JMO based on his latest interviews


Oy...come on Season 5!

:indeed: :comeon:

PG15
March 16th, 2008, 03:04 PM
oh ok. but 10 eps (s4.5)+ 15 eps (s5)=25 eps and there are only 24 lines :confused:

Did I say 15? I meant 14.

Yep, that's what happened. ;)

Jumper_One
March 16th, 2008, 03:18 PM
Did I say 15? I meant 14.

Yep, that's what happened. ;)

LOL ok :D

atfan
March 17th, 2008, 10:06 AM
I thought we had a strong hint from JM that that line refers to Woolsey's arrival?

I agree and the Power play refers to Carter leaving Atlantis and Woolsey taking over maybe?

I am confused about the seed because Joe M blog said Keller was fitted for a prosthetic -- so maybe something happens to her?

Doctor from earth has to be Jackson

Whispers I have no idea


agree on the Rodney untitled episode.

PG15
March 23rd, 2008, 06:34 PM
I scored an update:


PG15 also writes: “1. Are the mid-season 2-parter given 2 clues, like The Kindred Part 1 and 2 each getting a line in the poem? 2. Are they for the first 14 episodes of the season (minus The Queen, since you guys made that up after you wrote the poem), or are they for just 14 episodes within the season? I ask because I have a hunch that “While myriad permutations are viewed from space” refers to the 100th episode.”

Answer: Actually, two clues for the two-parter - and both apply to part one. 2. The hints refer to 14 episodes within the body of the fifth season. And your guess is incorrect.



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/march-23-2008-my-craptastic-dinner-at-diva-at-the-met/

Gonna update the first post with this, and change my selections for the mid-season 2-parter.

Also bumping it up since we got a new episode to talk about: Inquisition.

Jumper_One
March 23rd, 2008, 06:41 PM
I scored an update:



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/march-23-2008-my-craptastic-dinner-at-diva-at-the-met/

Gonna update the first post with this, and change my selections for the mid-season 2-parter.

Also bumping it up since we got a new episode to talk about: Inquisition.

well done dude :D

Killdeer
March 23rd, 2008, 08:54 PM
Actually, two clues for the two-parter - and both apply to part one. 2. The hints refer to 14 episodes within the body of the fifth season.

How does that work? There are 14 lines. If two lines refer to one episode (part one of the two-parter) then how can there be hints for 14 episodes? Unless one line is for more than one episode?

Jumper_One
March 23rd, 2008, 08:58 PM
How does that work? There are 14 lines. If two lines refer to one episode (part one of the two-parter) then how can there be hints for 14 episodes? Unless one line is for more than one episode?

hm good point. maybe Joe meant 13 eps?

Fenrir Foxz
March 23rd, 2008, 10:14 PM
hm good point. maybe Joe meant 13 eps?

Or he's trying to confuse us :P

Jumper_One
March 23rd, 2008, 10:24 PM
Or he's trying to confuse us :P

nah he would never do that :P

Fenrir Foxz
March 23rd, 2008, 10:26 PM
nah he would never do that :P

Well he can be cryptic and avoid direct answers :P I wouldn't put it passed him :P

Jumper_One
March 24th, 2008, 12:02 PM
Well he can be cryptic and avoid direct answers :P I wouldn't put it passed him :P

:indeed:

GoSpikey
April 2nd, 2008, 10:23 AM
Nothing new yet? :P

Jumper_One
April 2nd, 2008, 02:26 PM
Nothing new yet? :P

nope

GoSpikey
April 3rd, 2008, 09:37 AM
nope

Pffft. :P

Vespasianus
April 16th, 2008, 01:41 AM
That's my theory:

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. – The Seed (JM said that "this one" would be Woolsey)
An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. – The Daedalus Variations
A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - Ghost in the Machine
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. – Whispers (though that could refer to Ghost in the Machine too)
A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. – Tracker ??? (doesn't really fit the spoilers, does it?)
(none for The Queen)
Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact-The Lost Tribe
Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact-The Lost Tribe

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition ??? (perhaps the team is caught and stands trial from one or several of the emerging races in Pegasus for crimes against the galaxy)
While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. – "ShepWhump episode"
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. – "very special Atlantis episode?"

TBA
May 11th, 2008, 01:11 AM
My guess:


The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
McKay getting the Pegasus-alzheimer

While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Prodigal

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed
Bad luck = he's getting hurt!

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - 519 -CSI Atlantis
No explaining needed I think

The city assailed by mutations infective. - Remnants

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact
Dr. Jackson

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - Tracker

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue
Teyla's baby

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
The Genii unfolding their twisted plans for galactic domination

The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - The Seed
Woolsey arriving as expedition leader

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
Tyre

And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine
Weir/FRAN

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
The new alien race form the mid-season 2-parter

While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations
Hey, the Daddy is a space ship

Jumper_One
June 1st, 2008, 06:26 PM
I really tried but it wasn't easy! anyway...


The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Remnants

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - CSI Atlantis
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - The Queen

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Ghost in the Machine
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Outsiders (?)

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Tracker

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - The Lost Tribe
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations

TBA
June 2nd, 2008, 07:46 AM
There's no hint to 'The Queen' in it, since the episode has been created after the poem was written.

GoSpikey
June 2nd, 2008, 09:46 AM
- The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine (Of Talus)
There isn't that many brilliant ones out there...
- While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers
To put in a bind = capture/trap, and replacements = new Hybrids?

- While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed?
"Hexed," Shep's ultimate whump ep, was shelved, right? So that clue has to be striked.

- A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - CSI: Atlantis
Pretty straightforward.
- The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed
We've already seen pics of Hazmat suits, so... Infective.

- Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact
Could even in a way be "Whispers"? If Carson returns from home, that is.

- A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - Tracker
It fits so many eps... Or about none.

- A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search And Rescue
Pretty straightforward again.

- The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
Power play = Genii?
- The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - (First Contact)
This one sounds like Woolsey's arrival, but McKay isn't happy about Daniel checking in on things, either.

- An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
I guess this one is the new Shep whump ep?
- And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost In The Machine
Repli!Weir&Fran come to warn Atlantis?

- Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
Race = maybe enemy, but why "target"? They want to attack the Wraith, from what we know.
- While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations
It's a space ep...


"Outsiders" doesn't have a line, yet? And I don't think we know much about "Prodigal"?

TBA
June 2nd, 2008, 10:10 AM
'Hexed' was a maybe for season 5. I certainly hope it'll get in, since I don't mind a Shep-whump now and then :sheppard:

naamiaiset
June 2nd, 2008, 10:21 AM
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind - shrine

While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - prodigal

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - remnants or broken ties

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - csi atlantis

The city assailed by mutations infective. - seed

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action - first contact

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field - ghost in the machine

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - S&R

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - inquisition

The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - the queen

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed - broken ties

And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - outsiders or whispers

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race - lost tribe

While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - daedalus variations

GoSpikey
June 2nd, 2008, 10:31 AM
Then which one is GitM? Cos that one was definitely in there since it's been thought of before S5...

17 and 18: there's no real plans for those eps yet, it's been confirmed yesterday, I think?

PG15
June 2nd, 2008, 10:31 AM
Hexed can still fit; it wasn't a "maybe" when the poem was written.

naamiaiset
June 2nd, 2008, 10:36 AM
Hexed can still fit; it wasn't a "maybe" when the poem was written.
then I need to fix my guesses. I forgot about "ghost in the machine".

TBA
July 1st, 2008, 07:16 AM
The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
McKay getting the Pegasus-alzheimer

While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - The Lost Tribe
Todd & his Wraith on board the Apollo instead of the crew

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed (shelved for s6)
Bad luck = he's getting hurt!

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Vegas
Vegas was formerly titled 'CSI Atlantis'

The city assailed by mutations infective. - Infection

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact
Dr. Jackson

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - Tracker

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue
Teyla's baby

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
The Genii unfolding their twisted plans for galactic domination

The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - The Seed
Woolsey arriving as expedition leader

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
Tyre

And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine
Weir/FRAN

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - Remnants
The hallucination aliens

While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations
The Daedalus


Edited my guesses.

PG15
July 15th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Alright, here we go...


And in case you weren’t able to figure it out, the line “A mission is snagged by an untimely birth.” is a reference to Search and Rescue, our fifth season premiere.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/july-15-2008-our-class-field-trip-unwelcome-bodies-discussion-and-the-mailbag/

And just to keep my selections up to date:

The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Vegas
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - The Prodigal

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Tracker

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations

Maltrancko
July 16th, 2008, 03:12 AM
i'm starting to think about this one PG15, i think that the line

the ghost from the past has us fearing the worst
may in fact refer to remnants

kolya?

PG15
July 21st, 2008, 03:30 PM
The line for Episode 2 revealed!


PG15 writes: “Well, since I’m here, I might as well beg you to reveal the line in the spoiler poem that relates to The Seed.”

Answer: “The city assailed by mutations infective”.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/july-20-2008-tipping-the-scales-okinomiyaki-no-show-and-mucho-mailbag/

My stuff:


The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Vegas
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - The Prodigal

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Tracker

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations

PG15
August 1st, 2008, 09:37 AM
Broken Ties is broken no more...


PG15 writes: “Oh, and Joe, do you mind revealing the line in the spoiler poem that’s for “Broken Ties”?”

Answer: Sure. “An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed”.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/july-31-2008-the-happening/

My stuff:

The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Vegas
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - The Prodigal

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Tracker

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations

PG15
August 6th, 2008, 05:09 PM
The Daedalus Variations is gone...


PG15 writes: “So Joe, how’s about revealing the spoiler poem line for The Daedalus Variations?”

Answer: Sure. “While myriad permutations are viewed from space.”

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/august-6-2008-healing-mind-waves-dr-jack-daniels-restorative-elixir-and-the-weird-food-purchase-of-the-day/

My stuff:

The brilliant one slowly loses his mind, - The Shrine
While a group of replacements puts the team in a bind. - Whispers

While Sheppard battles some really bad luck. - Hexed

A corpse is discovered and John plays detective. - Vegas
The city assailed by mutations infective. - The Seed

Call the doctor from Earth to help us take action, - First Contact

A battle is waged on the defender’s home field, - The Prodigal

A mission is snagged by an untimely birth. - Search and Rescue

The status quo shifts, a power play made. - Inquisition
The arrival of this one leave some feeling dismayed. - Tracker

An old friend returns, loyalties are reversed, - Broken Ties
And a ghost from the past has us fearing the worst. - Ghost in the Machine

Atlantis the target of a mysterious race, - First Contact
While myriad permutations are viewed from space. - The Daedalus Variations