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KindlyKeller
March 7th, 2008, 09:05 PM
Was it Sheppard -- potentially the last human being in either galaxy when he was thrust 40,000 years into the future -- or was it McKay, the only one of our main characters to survive the twisted nightmare that was the alternate timeline?

jenks
March 7th, 2008, 09:07 PM
Sheppard.

Pharaoh Atem
March 7th, 2008, 09:14 PM
Sheppard.

yup

Ruffles
March 7th, 2008, 09:17 PM
I'm taking the easy way out and going with....

In a way, they both are. McKay is the last of the team alive in his lifetime so in that way he is the last man. However, Sheppard is truly the last one left alive because he's thrown so far in the future.

Rodney had to live out his life as the last man to save Sheppard who was the last man.

cynatnite
March 7th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Rodney had to live out his life as the last man to save Sheppard who was the last man.

And what I want to know is where did Rodney live out his life at. Did he stay on Atlantis, get sucked dry by a Wraith, Michael got him or did he head back to Earth after setting that up for Shep?

Ruffles
March 7th, 2008, 09:31 PM
And what I want to know is where did Rodney live out his life at. Did he stay on Atlantis, get sucked dry by a Wraith, Michael got him or did he head back to Earth after setting that up for Shep?

He lived out his life on Earth. He worked as a college professor while figuring out how to save Sheppard.

cynatnite
March 7th, 2008, 09:55 PM
He lived out his life on Earth. He worked as a college professor while figuring out how to save Sheppard.

No, I meant after General Lorne allowed him to go to Atlantis to change the timeline. I wondered if he stayed after Atlantis after that or headed back to Earth after setting everything up for Shep.

Ruffles
March 7th, 2008, 10:01 PM
No, I meant after General Lorne allowed him to go to Atlantis to change the timeline. I wondered if he stayed after Atlantis after that or headed back to Earth after setting everything up for Shep.

Good question. I guess it depends on what was happening in Atlantis at the time. Personal opinion: he went back to Earth. If Lorne spun it as a "research project" he would have been assigned temporarily. I choose to believe he spent the rest of his life with Jeannie's family.

Infernorhythm
March 7th, 2008, 10:27 PM
Sheppard, hands down. He was the last man on (future) Atlantis.

Willow'sCat
March 7th, 2008, 11:39 PM
SciFi and Joe M say it was Sheppard *huge surprise given he is the lead* but I say it was McKay.

No one else was bothering to try and change things, they were in fact the ones to ultimately give up. Even if the death of a loved one spurred McKay into action (from Joe's poem about Keller dying ;)) it was still very much McKay's info and his determination not to have things left like this.

And his genius!

For the publicity machine it looks better to say it was Sheppard but McKay fans worth their salt, know it was Rodney. That is all that matters. ;)

As for where old!Rodney lived after he went back to Atlantis? He didn't it was all reset, that time line no longer exist except for the one where he is presently being blown to bits! :P *and not in a good way* :jack_new_anime05::D

Mitchell82
March 8th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Good question. I guess it depends on what was happening in Atlantis at the time. Personal opinion: he went back to Earth. If Lorne spun it as a "research project" he would have been assigned temporarily. I choose to believe he spent the rest of his life with Jeannie's family.

That makes sense unless Atlantis was already abandoned at the time.

KindlyKeller
March 8th, 2008, 12:21 AM
Ah, well, there you go. Thanks for the info, Willow. I thought maybe they'd purposefully left it amibguous so that we could all have this pointless discussion, but I guess it's all about the Shep! :)

noriah47
March 8th, 2008, 12:50 AM
All I wanted to know really was where was the cat and the talking Toaster?

Linzi
March 8th, 2008, 01:06 AM
Seeing as how SciFi promoted in their banners that Sheppard was the last man and that the fates of Atlantis and Earth depended on him, I'm saying it's a pretty sure bet it was Sheppard. HoloMcKay does actually say to Sheppard that he could be the only human left alive. And let's not forget, McKay was long dead, thus he couldn't be 'the last man'. :)

KindlyKeller
March 8th, 2008, 01:14 AM
Seeing as how SciFi promoted in their banners that Sheppard was the last man and that the fates of Atlantis and Earth depended on him, I'm saying it's a pretty sure bet it was Sheppard. HoloMcKay does actually say to Sheppard that he could be the only human left alive. And let's not forget, McKay was long dead, thus he couldn't be 'the last man'. :)

Yeah, I guess -- like I said above -- McKay is only The Last Man in the figurative sense. As in, he outlived all of his friends and colleagues.

But yeah, it was Shep THEY envisioned as the last man probably.

Ruffles
March 8th, 2008, 05:36 AM
That makes sense unless Atlantis was already abandoned at the time.

If it was abandoned, why would Lorne need to defend sending McKay there? Why would he need to tell anyone where McKay was going?

jasminaGo
March 8th, 2008, 06:02 AM
If it was abandoned, why would Lorne need to defend sending McKay there? Why would he need to tell anyone where McKay was going?

Every gate activation is recorded. And activation to the Pegasus Galaxy would need a lot of power. So Lorne has to have an excuse for wasting resourses and sending McKay to a deserted outpost.

reddevil18
March 8th, 2008, 06:07 AM
I don't think Atlantis was abandoned at the time, because the holo-McKay didn't seem to know when and why the city was abandoned at first. I'd say McKay set up the thing and programmed it to activate once Sheppard appeared, then went back home. Sometime after that, the city was abandoned.
If Atlantis were already abandoned, I think the hologram would have told John what happened exactly and why.

Ruffles
March 8th, 2008, 06:27 AM
Every gate activation is recorded. And activation to the Pegasus Galaxy would need a lot of power. So Lorne has to have an excuse for wasting resourses and sending McKay to a deserted outpost.

You'd think that 25 years would be enough time to rebuild Midway. Or manufacture a few ZPMs.

jasminaGo
March 8th, 2008, 06:35 AM
You'd think that 25 years would be enough time to rebuild Midway. Or manufacture a few ZPMs.

But McKay said him self, things are going to hell in all galaxies. Maybe they don't have the resourses.

hisg1fans
March 8th, 2008, 07:04 AM
Per the original question....Who was the last man, McKay or Sheppard?

I would say McKay. He was the last of the team/expedition to keep fighting.

Durgia
March 8th, 2008, 07:12 AM
I too vote for McKay.

He was the only one to not give up. The last one alive, that had to watch as each of his friends and colleagues were killed in a horrible war. Plus he was the only one to try and fix it.

I loved the line where Keller tells nobody can change the past and he responds "But I can!"

If it was not for McKay, Sheppard would have died from starvation in the future somewhere.

reddevil18
March 8th, 2008, 07:15 AM
My question is: why exactly are we debating this?
Sure, by his "never give up" attitude, McKay was the last one to try and fix things, but the fact is that TPTB and the episode itself has Sheppard as the last man. Literally, he may be the last Tau'ri in the Universe. That's what the title was referring to. The end.