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    Can BC304 block any unauthorise ring entry ?

    The Ancient and Ori invented the transport ring,The Goa'uld copy it and spread it around ,on new world and their ships.And Earth engineer probably install some existing ring onto the 303 & 304.

    We saw time and time again SG1 sneak into Goa'uld/Jaffa and Ori ship using the ring, it has the abilities to search the nearless ring.
    It is handy when someone is escaping an exploding ship or just sneak into the emeny ship.

    Daniel got away from the Russian 304 ,using the ring, they were planing to send a bomb there .But Daniel got away in the last second.

    Vala and even Dr Felger done it ,sneak into enemy ship.

    Why has Earth's enemy try to sneak into the 304 yet?and can Earth engineer find a way to block any unauthorise ring entry?

    Consider the Goa'uld and Ori has been using the rings for 1000's and may be millions longer and Earth .And they can't do it .How can Earth

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    Originally posted by ckwongau View Post
    The Ancient and Ori invented the transport ring,The Goa'uld copy it and spread it around ,on new world and their ships.And Earth engineer probably install some existing ring onto the 303 & 304.

    We saw time and time again SG1 sneak into Goa'uld/Jaffa and Ori ship using the ring, it has the abilities to search the nearless ring.
    It is handy when someone is escaping an exploding ship or just sneak into the emeny ship.

    Daniel got away from the Russian 304 ,using the ring, they were planing to send a bomb there .But Daniel got away in the last second.

    Vala and even Dr Felger done it ,sneak into enemy ship.

    Why has Earth's enemy try to sneak into the 304 yet?and can Earth engineer find a way to block any unauthorise ring entry?

    Consider the Goa'uld and Ori has been using the rings for 1000's and may be millions longer and Earth .And they can't do it .How can Earth
    actuly there is a way. its called sheilds



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      #3
      Originally posted by jonos101 View Post
      actuly there is a way. its called sheilds
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        #4
        Vala got onbaord prometheus the same way when she was'nt exactly are freind thats pretty much the only enemy who's done it so it is possible but jafa are thick.

        Im more confused why there no rings/any transporters on atlantis (not incuding the lifts) you know to send people down from orbit without landing.
        if it wasnt for Carters new plot shield we would be dead


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          #5
          Originally posted by a6346 View Post
          Vala got onbaord prometheus the same way when she wasn't exactly are freind thats pretty much the only enemy who's done it so it is possible but jafa are thick.

          Im more confused why there no rings/any transporters on Atlantis (not including the lifts) you know to send people down from orbit without landing.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Artha O'neill View Post
            LOL

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            Its true about the ring transport in Alteran facilities. Look at Sga Season 2's "trinity." They climbed down a rubbish looking ladder. http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s2/2...rinity054.html
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            Is it really worth installing and powering the transporters/elevators to go 18 feet when the Ancients were all the epitome of health?
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              #7
              Having shields up should not matter when transporting with rings as Dr. Jackson ringed to the Ori ship while that had its shields up.
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                #8
                Originally posted by a6346 View Post
                Vala got onbaord prometheus the same way when she was'nt exactly are freind thats pretty much the only enemy who's done it so it is possible but jafa are thick.

                Im more confused why there no rings/any transporters on atlantis (not incuding the lifts) you know to send people down from orbit without landing.
                well, those "lifts" as you put it, are just more advanced versions of rings.
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                  #9
                  Daniel was able to sneak aboard the the Ori ship because when it's firing the main weapon there is a side effect : a shield fluctuation that allows incoming ring transport.

                  Anubis could leave his shields on but change the frequency to allow ring transport. During those windows, one could ring in unauthorised. Prometheus may or may not have had such control, but if it did then they would be on the ring-allowed setting to send over the rescue party, Vala used the opportunity.

                  In the case of the Merlin's Glastonbury facility, where they couldn't beam in, it seems likely Merlin left the shield to the open ring setting since there was no operator around to contact and allow visitors in.

                  It would seem the Priors are not given refined control over the ship's shields. This may be due to a lack of complete trust in the Priors and simplifying their self-destruct. If a Prior does something dramatic, like switch off the shield completely during battle, they would explode. But if they do something more subtle, like alter the frequency to allow enemy ringing, then the Prior may be more likely to survive and do it again. So it's easier not to give them total control, perhaps.

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                    #10
                    Makes me think of something. If we in the habit of beaming nukes in Camelot. We would have destroyed their first wave.


                    Anyways yea shields as everyone else said.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by YodaMate
                      Daniel was able to sneak aboard the the Ori ship because when it's firing the main weapon there is a side effect : a shield fluctuation that allows incoming ring transport.
                      but that still doesn't make sense. fluctuation is one thing, failure is another - the shield may have fluctuated but it was still up. does this mean it takes a shield at full strength to block a mere ring transport ?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SoulRe@ver View Post
                        but that still doesn't make sense. fluctuation is one thing, failure is another - the shield may have fluctuated but it was still up. does this mean it takes a shield at full strength to block a mere ring transport ?
                        In Upgrades Carter said that the Goa'Uld shields oscillate on a frequency, they could see the frequency and thus walk right through, this might be the same with the Ori ship, when it fires you can beam through.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dutch_Razor
                          In Upgrades Carter said that the Goa'Uld shields oscillate on a frequency, they could see the frequency and thus walk right through, this might be the same with the Ori ship, when it fires you can beam through.
                          yeah but it's doubtful ori shields operate on the same principle as (inferior) goa'uld shields, when they should be more akin to ancient shields

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SoulRe@ver View Post
                            yeah but it's doubtful ori shields operate on the same principle as (inferior) goa'uld shields, when they should be more akin to ancient shields
                            Not really. Ori and Alteran technology are similar in basic design and principle, but each had millions of years to evolve on its own.

                            Example: The Lantean warships were built fully around the idea of destroying the enemy quickly and efficiently. Ori craft are more decorative, with an emphasis on making them reflect Origin (the shape alone does that).

                            Example: Ancient weaponry is based on the idea of individual blasts targeting different critical areas of a vessel to disable or destroy it. Ori weaponry uses brute force to smash through enemies.




                            And in "The Shroud," Mitchell said Carter "locked out the rings" on the Ori mothership, implying that you can disable the rings from recieving transmissions. Adria was able to bypass this soon after, but she can do pretty much anything anyways, so I don't think it matters.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by s09119
                              Not really. Ori and Alteran technology are similar in basic design and principle, but each had millions of years to evolve on its own.

                              Example: The Lantean warships were built fully around the idea of destroying the enemy quickly and efficiently. Ori craft are more decorative, with an emphasis on making them reflect Origin (the shape alone does that).

                              Example: Ancient weaponry is based on the idea of individual blasts targeting different critical areas of a vessel to disable or destroy it. Ori weaponry uses brute force to smash through enemies.
                              the "spirit" may be different but the result is the same either way - total pwnage. besides the opri shields sure looked like the ancient ones (Atlantis anyway)

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