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Buck32
February 21st, 2008, 09:26 PM
I love SG1 but come on enough of the SG1 characters crossing over to Atlantis! now it looks like Daniel Jackson will cross over in season 5 for a couple of episodes. I mean don't mind crossovers if they're done properly but it just seems like TPTB are trying to do SG1 in Atlantis!!!!

they might as well bring back Teal'C and Carter in the same ep and tell the Atlantis crew to take the week off!!!

PG15
February 21st, 2008, 09:29 PM
*Head explodes*

Jumper_One
February 21st, 2008, 09:32 PM
*Head explodes*

I second this

Killjoy_Zero
February 21st, 2008, 10:32 PM
When the idea of an Atlantis SG-1 crossover comes up I have but one thought.

Two hour TV movie involving both crews, galaxies, locations, all that. I was a bit peeved that "The Pegasus Project" wasnt longer or better. If you're going to do a cross-over, you may as well make it a big one.

Major_Griff
February 21st, 2008, 11:43 PM
When the idea of an Atlantis SG-1 crossover comes up I have but one thought.

Two hour TV movie involving both crews, galaxies, locations, all that. I was a bit peeved that "The Pegasus Project" wasnt longer or better. If you're going to do a cross-over, you may as well make it a big one.

I thought TPP was pretty big in scope. Yes I would have liked it to have been a 2 parter or a movie and have both teams in their entirety working together, but come on TPP is so awesome. I still squeal with joy every time the toilet ship gets mangled by the kawoosh. and the line "We just blew up an Ori mothership by blowing up a wraith hive ship" is so satisfying. While it could have been bigger, TPP was certainly big enough.

Professor Chaos
February 21st, 2008, 11:48 PM
Oh no, more crossovers from another show that the vast majority of us love! :( Oh, the humanity!

Seriously, just give it a [mod snip] break with all these anti-Atlantis+SG1 posts. I mean, I get it that you don't want SG1 characters overshadowing the Atlantis ones, but that's not what they're doing. Every time an SG1 character has been on Atlantis they have been nothing more than a supporting character.

I personally can't wait to see Daniel on Atlantis. Should be a great 2 episodes.:D

colin15watt
February 21st, 2008, 11:58 PM
hmm im split, i like daniel, and sam, teal'c and cameron, but they can't just shove them in every season: season 1 half way through we got sam carter (fine that was only a little bit). season 2 we got sam again. season 3 we got Richard Dean Anderson for 3 episodes, including the mid season 2 parter, and season 4 we've had sam on a permeant basis and teal'c guest starring in 2 different episodes.
Stargate Atlantis IS a different show than SG1, i didn't mind bringing sam in after they made the mistake of gubbing Torri up, but that was only because it was a permeant position (for that season),
and now season 5 has Daniel AND Sam guest starring in episodes, im just not getting the same joy of watching it anymore :S

:sheppard::weir::teyla::ronan::beckett::mckay:

www.bebo.com/4stargate-atlantis4

:cameron::sam::tealc::vala::daniel:

Ganthet Jr.
February 22nd, 2008, 12:05 AM
Hmm. I understand your point, but I don't personally feel that they've crossed-over too much. If it were 7+ episodes, I'd share the sentiment, but it'd almost be unrealistic to have nothing. If take a step back from just SGA and look at the franchise, or the universe, as a whole, it's really one giant story. As long as it makes sense and is compelling I'm all for it. However, your argument is definitely valid!

Briangate78
February 22nd, 2008, 06:17 AM
*Head explodes*


I second this

Ditto. :S

jenks
February 22nd, 2008, 06:21 AM
Other than Pegasus Project, there haven't really been any cross overs. I wouldn't call using a character originally from SG-1 to move the story forward a 'cross over' as such, and to be honest, if they weren't making any appearances there'd be people complaining about that too...

The.Road.Not.Taken
February 22nd, 2008, 08:08 AM
if they all did a cross over but this time it was actually in the sga show it would be wkd to see the two teams fighting side b side

kymeric
February 22nd, 2008, 08:15 AM
I think its been good soo far. Daniel and Jack for like 3 minutes in the pilot, Same for a 2 second cameo in s1, Jack for a 2 parter in s3, Sam in s4 (didnt step on anyones toes the whole time), same in s5 alittle and a 2 parter with Daniel. Id be suprised if by episode a hundred we have 20-25 episodes with sg1 guest stars in them. And its not like any of them stole the spotlight (even in the return 1&2)

FoolishPleasure
February 22nd, 2008, 08:23 AM
It gets tiring having to use Teal'c, Daniel, Carter, Jack, etc., to come to SGA to boost its ratings.

I want SGA to stand on its own, with its own unique cast of characters. Unfortunately TPTB keep killing off SGA characters for "shock value" and keep popping in characters from a long gone sister show. It doesn't work for me. They need to develop the characters they have and stop using SG1 characters and scripts.

The.Road.Not.Taken
February 22nd, 2008, 08:25 AM
It gets tiring having to use Teal'c, Daniel, Carter, Jack, etc., to come to SGA to boost its ratings.

I want SGA to stand on its own, with its own unique cast of characters. Unfortunately TPTB keep killing off SGA characters for "shock value" and keep popping in characters from a long gone sister show. It doesn't work for me. They need to develop the characters they have and stop using SG1 characters and scripts.

its not tiring i think its good to know that the charatchers are still there

kymeric
February 22nd, 2008, 08:38 AM
It gets tiring having to use Teal'c, Daniel, Carter, Jack, etc., to come to SGA to boost its ratings.

I want SGA to stand on its own, with its own unique cast of characters. Unfortunately TPTB keep killing off SGA characters for "shock value" and keep popping in characters from a long gone sister show. It doesn't work for me. They need to develop the characters they have and stop using SG1 characters and scripts.

Or instead of being negative you could say that its nice to have characters from the parent show step in now and then for a little ratings boost so we can have a little extra ratings oomph now and then so we can continue enjoying our sga characters who are always gonna be here.

It is pandering to sg1 fans and it is pandering to the ratings devils at the company, but if it helps cement the show i say sure! Give us a sg1 guest spot now and then.

O and btw all of sg1 one has not been to atlantis at the same time even once.

The_Carpenter
February 22nd, 2008, 09:29 AM
*Head explodes*I second this

Me three

FoolishPleasure
February 22nd, 2008, 11:10 AM
Or instead of being negative you could say that its nice to have characters from the parent show step in now and then for a little ratings boost so we can have a little extra ratings oomph now and then so we can continue enjoying our sga characters who are always gonna be here.

It is pandering to sg1 fans and it is pandering to the ratings devils at the company, but if it helps cement the show i say sure! Give us a sg1 guest spot now and then.

O and btw all of sg1 one has not been to atlantis at the same time even once.

If SGA was a strong as it should be, we wouldn't need the SG1 characters for a ratings boost. I love SG1, but they've gone on to make movies and are now doing other projects. I want TPTB to boost our own SGA characters, like Teyla, Ronon, Lorne, Zelenka. I want to know more about everyone I've seen in Atlantis, not waste episodes with characters I already know inside out, who are just brought in for ratings.

I'm not being negative. SG1 did its time and its gone. Now I want to see SGA stand on its own two feet without help from a dead show.

SGFerrit
February 22nd, 2008, 12:09 PM
Yes, because a ratings boost is the only possible reason they could have for bringing an SG-1 character over for an ep or two.

I didn't hear a single person complain when Atlantis characters guest starred on SG-1 in TPP. Those people must have realised it was realistic for this sort of thing to happen every now and then. It's a shame others can't take a step back and see this is one big Stargate universe...

PG15
February 22nd, 2008, 12:48 PM
A ratings boost is always good; it doesn't matter what the usual ratings are for the show.

Bagpuss
February 22nd, 2008, 01:09 PM
If SGA was a strong as it should be, we wouldn't need the SG1 characters for a ratings boost. I love SG1, but they've gone on to make movies and are now doing other projects. I want TPTB to boost our own SGA characters, like Teyla, Ronon, Lorne, Zelenka. I want to know more about everyone I've seen in Atlantis, not waste episodes with characters I already know inside out, who are just brought in for ratings.
I think whatever the PTB's motives ,the ratings weren't their only reason.I always wondered how much they wanted to draw from the entire SG Universe cast/characters back when Rising ,then LFP was aired.
I would have preferred Atlantis to keep it's own identity ,but since Siege P1,that was never going to happen imo.
I liked some of Carter's input,but I preferred SG-1 Sam .Moot anyway as AT/Carter are leaving in S5.I still don't know if I'll like Woolsey as Commander.
I enjoyed seeing Teal'c in Midway.He and Ronon played off each other well,in my opinion ,and I'm hoping the Daniel eps will be good in S5 too.If I have any criticisms though,I intend to air them once I've watched.:)


I'm not being negative. SG1 did its time and its gone. Now I want to see SGA stand on its own two feet without help from a dead show.
I don't see you as negative either,as you explained your reasons for your feelings ,and you are perfectly entitled to air them .
I don't think SGA will ever be separated from SG-1,but it's a given thing for me now,that the direction changed after S1 ,and I don't see it changing back to "Atlantis alone against the Pegasus Galaxy " ,which was how I felt about the show back then.
I'm hoping to see plenty development for the Atlantis characters in upcoming eps and next season though.
I'm just maybe more optimistic than some,and less critical than others here .:)


Yes, because a ratings is boost is the only possible reason they could have for bringing an SG-1 character over for an ep or two.
Not the only one ,I'd agree ,but it may have been a significant factor.None of us fans know every last detail ,do we ? ;)


I didn't hear a single person complain when Atlantis characters guest starred on SG-1 in TPP. Those people must have realised it was realistic for this sort of thing to happen every now and then. It's a shame others can't take a step back and see this is one big Stargate universe...
Oh ,I heard (or rather read) plenty criticism of TPP.I think we just read different threads .
This forum is full of diverse opinions and almost every POV is welcomed.I prefer to post on GW for that very reason.
If fans change their minds or soften on some issues like this topic ,after they see S5,then that's up to them,and no amount of discussion will prevent them from deciding for themselves.
In the meantime ,some will agree with crossover cast members and others won't .:)


A ratings boost is always good; it doesn't matter what the usual ratings are for the show.
ITA.:)

kirmit
February 22nd, 2008, 05:36 PM
I'll never understand some people, we have two brilliant crossovers TPP and Midway, which most of the fans praise on here then we're told we could have more of these brilliant crossovers and people moan. Seriously in SGA's entire run we've only had a few crossovers not including Sam's S4 stunt, I really don't get what people are moaning about.

Buck32
February 22nd, 2008, 10:54 PM
Oh no, more crossovers from another show that the vast majority of us love! :( Oh, the humanity!

Seriously, just give it a [mod snip] break with all these anti-Atlantis+SG1 posts. I mean, I get it that you don't want SG1 characters overshadowing the Atlantis ones, but that's not what they're doing. Every time an SG1 character has been on Atlantis they have been nothing more than a supporting character.

I personally can't wait to see Daniel on Atlantis. Should be a great 2 episodes.:D


Seriously give me a break from all these posters like you who think everything Stargate does is spun gold, i like anyone else has a right to criticise and have an opinion on what is shown in SGA.

Heaven forbid we take a swipe at your perfect show!!!

Professor Chaos
February 22nd, 2008, 11:56 PM
Seriously give me a break from all these posters like you who think everything Stargate does is spun gold, i like anyone else has a right to criticise and have an opinion on what is shown in SGA.

Heaven forbid we take a swipe at your perfect show!!!
When did I say everything Stargate does is "gold"? There are many things that I don't like about this show and on occasion I will post about it, but this? It's one thing to whine about a past crossover that you disliked or about a character you dislike crossing over, but why [mod snip] about an SG1 character coming to Atlantis for 2 episodes when you have no reason to do so?

kymeric
February 23rd, 2008, 09:45 AM
Yes, because a ratings is boost is the only possible reason they could have for bringing an SG-1 character over for an ep or two.

I didn't hear a single person complain when Atlantis characters guest starred on SG-1 in TPP. Those people must have realised it was realistic for this sort of thing to happen every now and then. It's a shame others can't take a step back and see this is one big Stargate universe...

Heh, you got a good point. No one /wrists over all of SGA on SG1 but somehow the opposite is evil. LAWLZ

Cautious Explorer
February 23rd, 2008, 09:54 AM
In my experience, crossover characters are usually poorly written, often dulled down and stilted. Part of what makes a character interesting is their interactions with other familiar faces, not being thrown in with a bunch of strangers.

O'Neill was far less interesting than he could have been in his appearance in The Return. Carter has been a horribly dull addition to the cast, and Teal'c didn't seem to fit at all.

I've rarely seen crossovers that work well. Mostly they serve as a novelty, or as a walk down memory lane for characters from a dead show.

BubblingOverWithIdeas
February 23rd, 2008, 10:29 AM
I don't mind appearances by SG-1 characters, but with the plot similarities that have developed, Atlantis is feeling less like a spin-off and more like a sequel. There is a difference.

Jumper_One
February 23rd, 2008, 05:39 PM
In my experience, crossover characters are usually poorly written, often dulled down and stilted. Part of what makes a character interesting is their interactions with other familiar faces, not being thrown in with a bunch of strangers.

O'Neill was far less interesting than he could have been in his appearance in The Return. Carter has been a horribly dull addition to the cast, and Teal'c didn't seem to fit at all.

I've rarely seen crossovers that work well. Mostly they serve as a novelty, or as a walk down memory lane for characters from a dead show.

see I totally disagree with you. I thought Jack was great in The Return, Carter's been a very good leader und and they used her well. also TPP was a very cool ep imo aswell as Midway. I had a lot of fun watching Teal'c and Ronon and I'm really looking forward to the mid-season two-parter in s5 and Daniel's appearance

Willow'sCat
February 23rd, 2008, 07:06 PM
When the idea of an Atlantis SG-1 crossover comes up I have but one thought.

Two hour TV movie involving both crews, galaxies, locations, all that. I was a bit peeved that "The Pegasus Project" wasnt longer or better. If you're going to do a cross-over, you may as well make it a big one.That is pretty much where I now stand on crossovers, if they have to pander to SG-1 fans then they may as well make it a big dam two part-er and do some serious writing, but imho The Return was lackluster, and kind of felt like RDA was walking through his lines *sorry but it did* and TPP although yes big, most of the crossover was not that SGA heavy, McKay aside ;) we hardly saw anyone else from SGA once the meeting ended. :cool: They wasted time on a meeting!!! :rolleyes:

So do them but do them bloody well. Make it a moment that lasts not just a grab for ratings. :cool:

redrama9
February 24th, 2008, 12:54 PM
without input from SG-1 Atlantis would have been destroyed by the Wraith at the end of season 1.

Lets face it Atlantis has hardly had much at all to do with SG-1, the writers have limited alot. Is it realistic for Daniel not to go to atlantis now and then???? Is it realistic for Carter not to want her good friend of Tealc of eleven years to come and visit her on Atlantis. Is it relatis that SG-1 never goes to atlantis and we never get to see me there after so much of SG-1 was about finding it?

This isnt two seperate shows its one franchise.

wolverine_nl
February 24th, 2008, 01:14 PM
My opinion is that Stargate is Stargate, i would like a 2 hour long show every week and i don't care where it takes place, as long as it has the dynamic both shows have, i am happy watching it. And if Walter is in Atlantis and people go all crazy because it is a bit of a cross-over, well it takes place in the stargate universe and well they could have made Atlantis a non human stargate spin-off, but this isn't the case, so sg-1 and atlantis belong in the same universe and they also belong once in a while in the same episode, is my opinion.

sgarocks
February 26th, 2008, 12:39 PM
I usually lurk, but I just signed up because I wanted to offer my point of view.

I'm an Atlantis fan from day one, since Rising aired in July 2004. I don't like SG-1. I come here to read some news, but I tend to be on SGA-only communities mostly. Why? Because I'm tired of having to justify myself for liking SGA and not SG-1. I've been told (not here) by SG-1 only fans many many many times things such as "you can't like Atlantis and not SG-1" (but it's perfectly fine for them to love SG-1 and think Atlantis is crap, mind you). "Hope you realize that your show will be cancelled without SG-1. The only reason someone watches Atlantis is because it airs after SG-1. Enjoy your last season while you can" (said before s4 started). And other rude things.
And I've found many others in fandom who got the same "nice" experience. I'm in no way claiming majority. All I'm saying is that my experience doesn't seem to be an isolated one within the SGA fandom.
I realize it's not fair because the kind of SG-1 fans that post stuff like that do NOT represent the majority. But, fair or not, one tends to resent things like this and ends up with a "I don't want to see characters from *that* show. Leave our show alone" mentality.
Another point is that SGA characters in SG-1 seem to be treated as the "poor idiots" or suffer from "guest star syndrome". I watched The Pegasus Project because I knew some SGA actors would be there. Hated it. I wanted Rodney to punch all the SG-1 characters in the face for treating him like a jerk. He suffered from the "guest star syndrome". I wish the SG-1 characters got that same treatment when they come to SGA as guest stars. But alas, they seem to be perfect and "greater than life" (one of the reasons I find them completely boring). Atlantis, in my opinion, always seemed to be treated as the step child in the franchise. Maybe, if some day SGA starts to be treated as an equal, some SGA fans will start to feel less resentful about crossovers. JMHO.

Ganthet Jr.
March 5th, 2008, 09:36 AM
I usually lurk, but I just signed up because I wanted to offer my point of view.

I'm an Atlantis fan from day one, since Rising aired in July 2004. I don't like SG-1. I come here to read some news, but I tend to be on SGA-only communities mostly. Why? Because I'm tired of having to justify myself for liking SGA and not SG-1. I've been told (not here) by SG-1 only fans many many many times things such as "you can't like Atlantis and not SG-1" (but it's perfectly fine for them to love SG-1 and think Atlantis is crap, mind you). "Hope you realize that your show will be cancelled without SG-1. The only reason someone watches Atlantis is because it airs after SG-1. Enjoy your last season while you can" (said before s4 started). And other rude things.
And I've found many others in fandom who got the same "nice" experience. I'm in no way claiming majority. All I'm saying is that my experience doesn't seem to be an isolated one within the SGA fandom.
I realize it's not fair because the kind of SG-1 fans that post stuff like that do NOT represent the majority. But, fair or not, one tends to resent things like this and ends up with a "I don't want to see characters from *that* show. Leave our show alone" mentality.
Another point is that SGA characters in SG-1 seem to be treated as the "poor idiots" or suffer from "guest star syndrome". I watched The Pegasus Project because I knew some SGA actors would be there. Hated it. I wanted Rodney to punch all the SG-1 characters in the face for treating him like a jerk. He suffered from the "guest star syndrome". I wish the SG-1 characters got that same treatment when they come to SGA as guest stars. But alas, they seem to be perfect and "greater than life" (one of the reasons I find them completely boring). Atlantis, in my opinion, always seemed to be treated as the step child in the franchise. Maybe, if some day SGA starts to be treated as an equal, some SGA fans will start to feel less resentful about crossovers. JMHO.

....:S

I think you may be dramatizing things a bit.

Rodney's treatment was hilarious, and not at all out of character. Mitchell was a jerk because he wasn't used to Rodney's antics, Sam spoke to him the way she did because of her history with him, Jon did the whole "citrus" thing as a joke.

I don't care that you're SGA, that's your choice, and I respect it. BUT, you can't expect TPTB to cater to you, when the franchise is written for fans of the franchise. That's by no means an insult to your fandom, but you can't pick your favorite and expect to be catered to. The work on the whole, not what certain subsets of fans demand.

Mitchell82
March 5th, 2008, 11:42 AM
I'll never understand some people, we have two brilliant crossovers TPP and Midway, which most of the fans praise on here then we're told we could have more of these brilliant crossovers and people moan. Seriously in SGA's entire run we've only had a few crossovers not including Sam's S4 stunt, I really don't get what people are moaning about.

I have nothing whatsoever against crossovers and I'm glad we'll get several in season 5 but you can overdo crossovers which is a bad thing.

jasminaGo
March 5th, 2008, 02:55 PM
I think a lot of people forget that Atlantis come from SG1. They have been searching for it since season 6. And also Atlantis was founded by SG1 characters, Weir and McKay both crossed over to Atlantis from S1. I know a lot of fans wanted to keep Atlantis cut off from Earth like S1, but it doesn't make sence. They have the technology, they know the expedition is in trouble, why not help them.

It's one show with two different storylines. I don't understand how anyone can expect those two stories not to mix. It's the same studio, same writers, same producers, same name.

Mitchell82
March 5th, 2008, 07:54 PM
I think a lot of people forget that Atlantis come from SG1. They have been searching for it since season 6. And also Atlantis was founded by SG1 characters, Weir and McKay both crossed over to Atlantis from S1. I know a lot of fans wanted to keep Atlantis cut off from Earth like S1, but it doesn't make sence. They have the technology, they know the expedition is in trouble, why not help them.

It's one show with two different storylines. I don't understand how anyone can expect those two stories not to mix. It's the same studio, same writers, same producers, same name.

I don't mind crossovers, Earth eps or similar stories. However Atlantis is it's own show it's not a continuation of SG-1 or even the Ancients that we knew in SG-1. The two shows are very different and many believe it needs to remain separate.

JohnRico
March 5th, 2008, 08:12 PM
Atlantis is it's own show it's not a continuation of SG-1 or even the Ancients that we knew in SG-1

In many ways Atlantis can be considered a sequel to SG-1. It is in the same universe & it takes place during the same time but different galaxy as SG-1 & oh here is a biggie & like someone said an SG-1 member is responsible for them even being at Atlantis & an SG-1 member is the one to find out that Atlantis even exists. Atlantis is an SG-1 sequel because there would be no Atlantis without SG-1. There is no other way to spin it. To think that Atlantis is not an SG-1 sequel is nothing but fan boy talk

the fifth man
March 5th, 2008, 08:46 PM
I definitely think of SGA as a sequel/extension of SG-1. As for the crossovers, I have no problem with them. The one's we've had, IMO, have been very strong episodes for the most part. I can't wait to see Daniel next season on SGA.

Arturis
March 5th, 2008, 09:12 PM
In many ways Atlantis can be considered a sequel to SG-1. It is in the same universe & it takes place during the same time but different galaxy as SG-1 & oh here is a biggie & like someone said an SG-1 member is responsible for them even being at Atlantis & an SG-1 member is the one to find out that Atlantis even exists. Atlantis is an SG-1 sequel because there would be no Atlantis without SG-1. There is no other way to spin it. To think that Atlantis is not an SG-1 sequel is nothing but fan boy talk

I agree fully. Let's go over the SG-1 cast and their contributions to/relationship with Atlantis shall we:

Daniel: Without Daniel they wouldn't have even been able to find a way to get to Atlantis, mush less have ever known anything about it without him telling them about it while he was still ascended. Giving Daniel a few guest appearances should not be out of the question. More at the bottom of the post...

Jack: Jack O'Neill is the head of the Department of Homeworld Security. That makes him the BOSS of everyone who currently resides in Atlantis... the military at least. Not to mention the huge sacrifices he made to help find the city in the first place... Lost City anyone? So by those virtues Jack should be able to be on Atlantis whenever he jolly well pleases. More at the bottom of the post...

Sam: With Sam being the current head of the expedition, underutilized as she has been, especially since she IS smarter than McKay, has been a great addition. She hasn't made any of the incompetent decisions that Weir did during her tenure and even though she hasn't made any significant or lasting contribution, she was a welcome change from Weir. More at the bottom of the post...

Teal'c: While seemingly having very little to add to Atlantis since the Jaffa have no real interests in Pegasus, his guest appearance in Midway was very well done and the chemistry between he and Ronan was great to watch. Besides, he's one of the best friends of the current commander and shouldn't be shunned as he has helped to save us all from annihilation more times than most. Granted, he was more out of place than other SG-1 characters, but Midway was good. More at the bottom of the post...

Mitchell and Vala: Now I fully agree that these two have no business being on Atlantis. They had no part in finding or saving Atlantis, so I grant that having either of them show up would be pointless.

Now, onto the matter of the fact that without the action of the entire SG-1 team in season 7 of SG-1 there would be no Atlantis. They found the Antarctic outpost and eventually the gate address to where Atlantis went in Pegasus. Not to mention that without the ZPM from Moebius Atlantis would have be utterly annihilated by the Wraith in The Siege. So I think SG-1's (the original SG-1) actions entitle them to pop up on Atlantis whenever they wish. Some classic Jack would be great and I'm greatly looking forward to seeing Daniel this upcoming season.

Just my 2 cents...

Buck32
March 6th, 2008, 05:11 AM
I agree fully. Let's go over the SG-1 cast and their contributions to/relationship with Atlantis shall we:

Daniel: Without Daniel they wouldn't have even been able to find a way to get to Atlantis, mush less have ever known anything about it without him telling them about it while he was still ascended. Giving Daniel a few guest appearances should not be out of the question. More at the bottom of the post...

Jack: Jack O'Neill is the head of the Department of Homeworld Security. That makes him the BOSS of everyone who currently resides in Atlantis... the military at least. Not to mention the huge sacrifices he made to help find the city in the first place... Lost City anyone? So by those virtues Jack should be able to be on Atlantis whenever he jolly well pleases. More at the bottom of the post...

Sam: With Sam being the current head of the expedition, underutilized as she has been, especially since she IS smarter than McKay, has been a great addition. She hasn't made any of the incompetent decisions that Weir did during her tenure and even though she hasn't made any significant or lasting contribution, she was a welcome change from Weir. More at the bottom of the post...

Teal'c: While seemingly having very little to add to Atlantis since the Jaffa have no real interests in Pegasus, his guest appearance in Midway was very well done and the chemistry between he and Ronan was great to watch. Besides, he's one of the best friends of the current commander and shouldn't be shunned as he has helped to save us all from annihilation more times than most. Granted, he was more out of place than other SG-1 characters, but Midway was good. More at the bottom of the post...

Mitchell and Vala: Now I fully agree that these two have no business being on Atlantis. They had no part in finding or saving Atlantis, so I grant that having either of them show up would be pointless.

Now, onto the matter of the fact that without the action of the entire SG-1 team in season 7 of SG-1 there would be no Atlantis. They found the Antarctic outpost and eventually the gate address to where Atlantis went in Pegasus. Not to mention that without the ZPM from Moebius Atlantis would have be utterly annihilated by the Wraith in The Siege. So I think SG-1's (the original SG-1) actions entitle them to pop up on Atlantis whenever they wish. Some classic Jack would be great and I'm greatly looking forward to seeing Daniel this upcoming season.

Just my 2 cents...

Fine you've all convinced me SG1 crossovers are ok, but please let's do away with the Earth based eps, they're boring and irrelevant!!!

jasminaGo
March 6th, 2008, 05:30 AM
Fine you've all convinced me SG1 crossovers are ok, but please let's do away with the Earth based eps, they're boring and irrelevant!!!

That was the original plan for Atlantis. But now since SG1 doesn't shot any more TPTB decided that SGA can play on Earth. And I agree, if they do make Earth side stories they can at least make them little stronger or make another crossover or tell why it's not a crossover.

vjlax18
March 6th, 2008, 06:11 AM
All of the crossover story lines have been great. TPP worked well and most of the fans loved it. Midway was another great story line and Teal'c being called in to coach Ronan would have been done in real life. Before anyone starts complaining about DJ in a couple shows, people should wait with an open mind. TPTB are not going to throw such an important character in the SG world into a weaker plotted show...

Mitchell82
March 7th, 2008, 12:23 AM
All of the crossover story lines have been great. TPP worked well and most of the fans loved it. Midway was another great story line and Teal'c being called in to coach Ronan would have been done in real life. Before anyone starts complaining about DJ in a couple shows, people should wait with an open mind. TPTB are not going to throw such an important character in the SG world into a weaker plotted show...

Agreed.