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atfan
February 7th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Did you find yourself cringing during the proposal thing in Quarantine?
Can you see Ronan and Keller getting together or dating?
Do you see more chemistry between the non-shipped characters?
All views of ship welcome in this thread:o

VSS
February 7th, 2008, 10:33 AM
In season 5 JM said they would film a similar scene to the one about Jack and Sam that was cut from Trio. We'll see about that, huh? I just wish they'd say something about it and be done with it. It can't be that hard to do. Three years of dragging out the Jack/Sam thing is getting old and next season is their last chance to fix it. It wouldn't take much, FCOL. The picture was nice, but I need a little bit more.

As for the rest, I felt bad for Rodney. He's so dysfunctional.:( I think that was their attempt at a romance for him, and nothing further is going to happen, poor guy.
And anything having to do with Keller- well I just can't stand that character for reasons I have explained on the anti-Keller thread numerous times. So if something comes of her encounter with Ronan in Quarantine, I would feel very sorry for Ronan.

ToasterOnFire
February 7th, 2008, 11:06 AM
I've never been a fan of canon ship on either Stargate. Why? Look at Sam/Jack. How well has that been handled? :mckay:


Did you find yourself cringing during the proposal thing in Quarantine?
Yep. And I had a feeling that would happen knowing the awkwardness of a fumbling Rodney. I just didn't think it would be so bad. Also, there's no way I can get on board a ship that has taken place almost entirely off screen. One date in Duet, a scare in Tabula Rasa, a couple of mentions here and there, and now they've jumped to marriage in Quarantine? Nah, too disjointed for me.

Besides, it doesn't look like Katie will be back in s5, so that ship is done.


Can you see Ronan and Keller getting together or dating?
Nope. They hardly spent any time together before Quarantine. Did they even talk to each other before then? Now all of a sudden they were stuck in a room together and almost smooched and I'm supposed to buy it. Again, disjointed and rushed.

Also, I don't think they have anything in common. Outside of TPTB's statement that Keller looks like Ronon's dead wife, which is mighty creepy in its own right. :S


Do you see more chemistry between the non-shipped characters?
Well I did, but one of them is gone now. :(

Ruffles
February 7th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Did you find yourself cringing during the proposal thing in Quarantine?

Actually I found myself cringing through most of the Rodney scenes since I found his actions extremely out of character. However, his bumbling proposal before the lockdown was pure McKay (no cringe factor for me). While I'm not a shipper, I have no problem with the concept (if it can be done well). I didn't really see Katie as a long-term interest for McKay.


Can you see Ronan and Keller getting together or dating?

Yep. And I'm all for it if done with subtlety - the occasional glance or comment about having dinner together. Not interested in the romance overshadowing the heart of the show though.


Do you see more chemistry between the non-shipped characters?

In a romantic way? Nope.

FireCat
February 7th, 2008, 11:15 AM
I used to think Weir and Beckett could work out, and the little scene with Lorne and Teyla in Spoils of War gave me a few interesting thoughts, but overall, I don't think any deep relationships would go over. That's something best left to fan fic.

As others have said, the whole smash-in-your-face Ronon/Keller "kinda" kiss was one of the most cringe-worthy scenes I've seen on this show.

atfan
February 7th, 2008, 11:45 AM
I used to think Weir and Beckett could work out, and the little scene with Lorne and Teyla in Spoils of War gave me a few interesting thoughts, but overall, I don't think any deep relationships would go over. That's something best left to fan fic.

As others have said, the whole smash-in-your-face Ronon/Keller "kinda" kiss was one of the most cringe-worthy scenes I've seen on this show.

Yeah I agree I was going okay talking good and I can see them being friends even dating if subtle but kissing after just barely having a conversation was wierd but to me the biggest cringe was Rodney/Katie
I liked seeing them the dates were not the most romantic but hey it's Rodney.
To rush it to proposing though....just wrong but again I guess typical Rodney kinda like a certain Colonel and Pete ---ugg bad memories but one or two onscreen things and bamm engaged? I saw some chemistry between Weir and Sheppard more friendship than romantic.
;)

DutchIndeed
February 7th, 2008, 01:15 PM
Obviously I am a Shipper, so yes, I do welcome ship.

However, I'm not a big fan of any ship amongst the Atlantis regulars. I just don't see it :o
IMO, Ronon and Keller shouldn't get together. It seems kind of forced to me and I really wondered where in earth that ship came from...

As for the proposal, that was funny. Nothing more, nothing less. Frankly, I have the feeling that that little storyline served to show Rodney's poor relational skills more than his love for Katie.

BUT...
I would of course love to see my S/J ship resolved at some point...
Call me a hypocrite, but that's the only ship that really works for me, even on SGA... :P

sueKay
February 7th, 2008, 01:23 PM
I only want Ship if it's done right

Star Trek managed it (perfect example - Paris/Torres; perfect example of unrequited love - picard/crusher) (and yes I know they also fowled up) more than once.

It'd be nice for Stargate to get it right even once.

stclare
February 7th, 2008, 01:32 PM
As previousley mentioned i just dont see Ronan/Keller ship at all and agree it seems forced and far fetched.

I dont really like romance in sci-fi - long running series. to keep that interesting always ends up in break ups and make ups. i can get that watching the OC. off hand comments such as "you still seeing (insert name)", "yes" is fine by me.

Anymore Larrin and i will need an industrial size barrf bin, that ship/flirt was just to childish for me.. that kind of behaviour i would expect in the playground not in this series.

as much as i dislike carter and sg1 at large. i think it would be a disservice to the fans not to settle the S/J ship once and for all. although arn't there movies being made which could settle that? sorry i dont keep up with anything sg1 unless it directly relates to sga.

so no cannon ship for me. hints to is okay as long as its done in a mature fashion.

:)

ykickamoocow
February 7th, 2008, 01:33 PM
If McKay is going to be paired off with anyone i want it to be will a tough spirited woman. Maybe a female Marine or something as i never felt Katie Brown was really his type. He obviously isnt going to be paired off with Carter but i think a character like Carter would be a good pairing for McKay.

stclare
February 7th, 2008, 01:34 PM
I only want Ship if it's done right

Star Trek managed it (perfect example - Paris/Torres; perfect example of unrequited love - picard/crusher) (and yes I know they also fowled up) more than once.

It'd be nice for Stargate to get it right even once.

Oh i forgot about Paris/Torres that was one ship i did route for and was pleased with the build up and pay off. though i admit i didnt see that last series of Voyager so have no idea how it ended. but was definatley pleasently surprised by how well it worked for me.

:)

stclare
February 7th, 2008, 01:35 PM
If McKay is going to be paired off with anyone i want it to be will a tough spirited woman. Maybe a female Marine or something as i never felt Katie Brown was really his type. He obviously isnt going to be paired off with Carter but i think a character like Carter would be a good pairing for McKay.

No, its gotta be Cadman all the way :D

sueKay
February 7th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Okay...here's my opinion on all the main character ships (or the ones I can think of)

Shep/Weir - could work
Shep/Teyla - could work, but I'd rather not see it
Shep/Carter - wrong on so many levels
Shep/Keller - wrong on so many levels
McKay/Weir - could work
McKay/Teyla - could actually be really interesting
McKay/Carter - probably wouldn't work
Mckay/Keller - wrong on so many levels
Ronon/Weir - could be interesting
Ronon/Teyla - could work
Ronon/Carter - would totally not work but could be interesting
Ronon/Keller - will not work
Beckett/Weir - could work
Beckett/Teyla - could be really interesting
Beckett/Carter - would not work
Beckett/Keller - probably wouldn't work
Woolsey/Weir - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/Teyla - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/Carter - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/wrong on so many levels - OMG...wrong wrong wrong!

ykickamoocow
February 7th, 2008, 01:39 PM
No, its gotta be Cadman all the way :D

Yes i always thought Cadman was a good match for McKay.

sueKay
February 7th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Oh i forgot about Paris/Torres that was one ship i did route for and was pleased with the build up and pay off. though i admit i didnt see that last series of Voyager so have no idea how it ended. but was definatley pleasently surprised by how well it worked for me.

:)

Want spoiled?

They end up married with a baby girl called Miral!

:)

ykickamoocow
February 7th, 2008, 01:41 PM
The 2 McKay pairings ive always liked are

McKay/Teyla
McKay/Cadman

CazzBlade
February 7th, 2008, 01:59 PM
Before Quaranteen I really wanted McKay to get married just so I could see him asking Shep to be his best man, lol. But the way they handled the proposal, I hated it and wouldn't be bothered if we never saw Katie again.

The only pairing that I wouldn't mind seeing and I think could actually work on the show is Sheyla. But the one they are gona go with is Ronon/Keller which I kinda liked before Quaranteen but am now totally against.

atfan
February 7th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Okay...here's my opinion on all the main character ships (or the ones I can think of)

Shep/Weir - could work
Shep/Teyla - could work, but I'd rather not see it
Shep/Carter - wrong on so many levels
Shep/Keller - wrong on so many levels
McKay/Weir - could work
McKay/Teyla - could actually be really interesting
McKay/Carter - probably wouldn't work
Mckay/Keller - wrong on so many levels
Ronon/Weir - could be interesting
Ronon/Teyla - could work
Ronon/Carter - would totally not work but could be interesting
Ronon/Keller - will not work
Beckett/Weir - could work
Beckett/Teyla - could be really interesting
Beckett/Carter - would not work
Beckett/Keller - probably wouldn't work
Woolsey/Weir - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/Teyla - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/Carter - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/wrong on so many levels - OMG...wrong wrong wrong!

Gotta say love your list some of those I didn't even think of .
In my opinion at this point pairing anyone with Carter would be wrong.
Teyla/Sheppard I can see somewhat more friendship though. McKay well Katie didn't work for me it seemed forced. Ronan/Keller not so far but I'll wait and see.
Ronan/Teyla seems more likely but with her baby's father thing it's an unknown.
Woolsey anyone just wrong awww poor Woolsey
Beckett/Weir hmm never thought of that
Have to disagree with Beckett/Keller it could be done but unlikely

I also have to admit to wanting some resolution of ship S/J before Carter leaves or just in passing would be okay as well. A simple tell Jack hi when you get back would work for me. Maybe in her farewell speech mentioning how she loves Atlantis but this xxxx opportunity is too good to pass up and then a casual I'll be glad to resume life with my husband or boyfriend just some indication would be wonderful. Maybe just mentioning she is heading back to Washington instead of Colorado subtle works let the people think what they want.

The best ship in my opinion occurs when 2 actors play off each other and maybe even dislike one another at first to me this is the best, becoming friends first then more later.:o

KGX2001
February 7th, 2008, 02:11 PM
Okay...here's my opinion on all the main character ships (or the ones I can think of)

Shep/Weir - could work
McKay/Weir - could work
McKay/Teyla - could actually be really interesting
McKay/Carter - probably wouldn't work
Ronon/Teyla - could work
Beckett/Teyla - could be really interesting

I very much agree with these. I have more of a sparky preference myself, but am not completely against Ronan/Keller. The ship makes sense when you consider his former wife has some similarities to Keller.

Killdeer
February 7th, 2008, 02:13 PM
Stargate has never managed to do a 'ship that has not made me cringe. The closest they came was Daniel/Vala because of their antagonistic bantering tension, but I even had issues with that one by the end of the show.

The one ship on Atlantis that I do not want to see ever is John/Teyla. Ronon/Keller is running a fairly close second to that after Quarantine.

I think Stargate should just not attempt to have any ships between main characters (or possibly even ships at all). Not because ship in and of itself is such a bad idea, but because they do it so badly IMO, and so far they've never managed to do it in 14 seasons without damaging the characters involved (again, IMO).

thunder18
February 7th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Okay...here's my opinion on all the main character ships (or the ones I can think of)

Shep/Weir - could work
Shep/Teyla - could work, but I'd rather not see it
Shep/Carter - wrong on so many levels
Shep/Keller - wrong on so many levels
McKay/Weir - could work
McKay/Teyla - could actually be really interesting
McKay/Carter - probably wouldn't work
Mckay/Keller - wrong on so many levels
Ronon/Weir - could be interesting
Ronon/Teyla - could work
Ronon/Carter - would totally not work but could be interesting
Ronon/Keller - will not work
Beckett/Weir - could work
Beckett/Teyla - could be really interesting
Beckett/Carter - would not work
Beckett/Keller - probably wouldn't work
Woolsey/Weir - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/Teyla - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/Carter - wrong on so many levels
Woolsey/wrong on so many levels - OMG...wrong wrong wrong!




Shep/Larrin from Travelers - could actually be really interesting

blue-skyz
February 7th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Shep/Larrin from Travelers - could actually be really interesting
That would certainly be the most interesting pairing to me.
Sheppard off-balance rocks. ;):P:D (Sorry, I like Larrin.)

Not really a pairing, because Larrin is not a main character.
The fact that it would be temporary helps make it appealing to me.

I never, ever want to see any real main character ships and there are not any that even begin to make sense to me.

Falcon Horus
February 7th, 2008, 04:02 PM
It's all in the eye of the beholder. Viewers see what they like to see. Personally, I don't want any shipping/slashing going on whatsoever, cause TPTB don't have a feeling about how to write romantic situations or even love between two people.

If there has to be shipping/slashing then I prefer it to be in a subtle way and not the in-your-face-kind-of-way. I liked the subtlety for instance between Daniel and Janet, the way Michael and Teryl put in little things.

I kinda liked Laura Cadman and Carson... There was something cute about them dating, even though it was more off-screen than on screen, which was just fine by me. I could fill in the blanks however I wanted to.

I kinda like ship/slash to stay to fanfic where I can play with my favorite pairing to my heart's content. It's not like it would ever happen on screen anyway.

******


I only want Ship if it's done right

Yup, same here...


I think Stargate should just not attempt to have any ships between main characters (or possibly even ships at all). Not because ship in and of itself is such a bad idea, but because they do it so badly IMO, and so far they've never managed to do it in 14 seasons without damaging the characters involved (again, IMO).

Also good points...