Ok I've seen several people arguing that the Asurans must have had ancient level technology etc...and had all their knowledge. This thread is basically to discuss the Asurans technology or lack of in some area's.
Despite what seems logical the Asurans seem to preform much worse with apparently the same technology as the Ancients, for example the Orion could obliterate a Hive ship in seconds while with an entire fleet the Asurans could only destroy a single hive out of 7 not through lack of trying. Another example is despite having a mega city and possible city ships they were unable to detect the approach of the fleet even when they were right on top of them. Compare this to Atlantis which can detect hives weeks away from them.
Clearly the Asurans aren't as advanced as the ancients, their ships in top condition preformed at a fraction of the level of a badly damaged ancient Aurora. Even factoring in the power of the new Asgard technology the Ancient aurora and the Asuran aurora being the same strength doesn't add up.
My theory is this, the Asurans never had access to full Ancient military knowledge. They simply observed it. They know large parts of ancient technology but not how it fits together. So in the case of their ships they knew what the ships looked like from experience but filled in the internal systems themselves leading to them being inferior to the originals. Basically on the outside they look the same but on the inside the Asuran vessels use cobbled together bits of ancient knowledge.
Some may say the Asurans had access to lantians in 'the return' they should have got more intimate knowledge then. However we know that you can build up resistance to mind probing, O'neill was able to resist somewhat its possible the more advanced/evolved ancient minds were able to fend off the Replicator probe somewhat.
Thoughts?
Despite what seems logical the Asurans seem to preform much worse with apparently the same technology as the Ancients, for example the Orion could obliterate a Hive ship in seconds while with an entire fleet the Asurans could only destroy a single hive out of 7 not through lack of trying. Another example is despite having a mega city and possible city ships they were unable to detect the approach of the fleet even when they were right on top of them. Compare this to Atlantis which can detect hives weeks away from them.
Clearly the Asurans aren't as advanced as the ancients, their ships in top condition preformed at a fraction of the level of a badly damaged ancient Aurora. Even factoring in the power of the new Asgard technology the Ancient aurora and the Asuran aurora being the same strength doesn't add up.
My theory is this, the Asurans never had access to full Ancient military knowledge. They simply observed it. They know large parts of ancient technology but not how it fits together. So in the case of their ships they knew what the ships looked like from experience but filled in the internal systems themselves leading to them being inferior to the originals. Basically on the outside they look the same but on the inside the Asuran vessels use cobbled together bits of ancient knowledge.
Some may say the Asurans had access to lantians in 'the return' they should have got more intimate knowledge then. However we know that you can build up resistance to mind probing, O'neill was able to resist somewhat its possible the more advanced/evolved ancient minds were able to fend off the Replicator probe somewhat.
Thoughts?
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