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Pharaoh Atem
February 5th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Anyone else want something different it's been the same for 3 seasons and i think with the direction the series has been going it would be nice to change it up a little :)

Admiral Mappalazarou
February 5th, 2008, 07:49 AM
I do. I've been hoping Woosley would get this position. Maybe I was wrong and Atlantis is heading in a new healthy direction. I'm completely happy with the cast change. :)

Emre
February 5th, 2008, 07:50 AM
I quite like the current opening sequence...but a change wouldn't be so bad.

As long as the music stays the same.

SanGate
February 5th, 2008, 07:51 AM
I actually love the one they have now, the blue colory-effect, so no new change for me in that department. And please, the music! OMG, never change the music!

TheCorpulent1
February 5th, 2008, 08:53 AM
The music should definitely stay, but I'd prefer new visuals. The current one's a bit too flashy and awkward for my tastes, with the little starbursts on the corners of the screen and everything. I like the idea of a simpler title sequence that still incorporates the montage-like shifting between scenes from the show.

Stricken
February 5th, 2008, 08:55 AM
Bring back the 10 second intros...:D

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 08:57 AM
I've been wanting something different.

I hate the opening theme, always have and always will. As for what they could put in it's place, don't know, but just something different and maybe not so theatrical.

I'm now wondering about the line up. So now Woolsey would take up Carter's spot leaving Teyla the only female in the cast with her face in the intro.

Maybe Teyla can get a new sex change and be called Teyran, just to make the line up more homogenous. :(

But yeah, a change is at hand with a new leader in the helm---said this for S4 as well.

jenks
February 5th, 2008, 09:23 AM
Bring back the 10 second intros...:D

Works for me, the intro only exists to be ignored/skipped for me.

Major_Griff
February 5th, 2008, 11:13 AM
I hope they don't stick Picardo in the TH/AT second slot after JF. I was pissed when they did that this season with AT. I think RL and JM deserve to be above the newbie. I think the credits should go:

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Luttrel
Jason Mamoa
with Robert Picardo as Richard Woosley
and David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM
I hope they don't stick Picardo in the TH/AT second slot after JF. I was pissed when they did that this season with AT. I think RL and JM deserve to be above the newbie. I think the credits should go:

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Luttrel
Jason Mamoa
with Robert Picardo as Richard Woosley
and David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

Doubtful. Not with Carter being leader. They could have easily done that with Carter, they chose not too, why would they then put Woolsey in that sort of slot when he's leader?!

However, if they did, I would so like to know the reasoning behind it.

Major_Griff
February 5th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Doubtful. Not with Carter being leader. They could have easily done that with Carter, they chose not too, why would they then put Woolsey in that sort of slot when he's leader?!

However, if they did, I would so like to know the reasoning behind it.

The reasoning would be that RP is a new regular and JM and RL have been with the show for longer and deserve to be higher in the credits than him and the reason AT was given TH's spot was because she was/is and 11 year veteran of the SG franchise.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 11:22 AM
Doubtful. Not with Carter being leader. They could have easily done that with Carter, they chose not too, why would they then put Woolsey in that sort of slot when he's leader?!

However, if they did, I would so like to know the reasoning behind it.

I wouldn't compare Carter and Woolsey. he's made guest appearances on both shows whereas she's been a regular on SG-1 for ten years. anyway I think they'll put him in the second slot

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 11:23 AM
The reasoning would be that RP is a new regular and JM and RL have been with the show for longer and deserve to be higher in the credits than him and the reason AT was given TH's spot was because she was/is and 11 year veteran of the SG franchise.

I wouldn't care and it would fly as a valid reason because in this instance AT was new to SGA and Woolsey is as recognizable to SG1, from what I can gather and see, as AT would be.

But then again, politics always takes the upper hand in these things, so you might be right.

Mitchell82
February 5th, 2008, 02:19 PM
I've been wanting something different.

I hate the opening theme, always have and always will. As for what they could put in it's place, don't know, but just something different and maybe not so theatrical.

I'm now wondering about the line up. So now Woolsey would take up Carter's spot leaving Teyla the only female in the cast with her face in the intro.

Maybe Teyla can get a new sex change and be called Teyran, just to make the line up more homogenous. :(

But yeah, a change is at hand with a new leader in the helm---said this for S4 as well.
You hate the theme? Why? I love it. As to the cast order it should be
Joe Flanigan
Rachel Lutrell
Jason Momoa
Robert Picardo as Richard Woosley
with David Hewlett as Dr.Rodney Mckay
As per the visuals leave them as they are just with new scenes.

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 02:21 PM
You hate the theme? Why? I love it. As to the cast order it should be
Joe Flanigan
Rachel Lutrell
Jason Momoa
Robert Picardo as Richard Woosley
with David Hewlett as Dr.Rodney Mckay
As per the visuals leave them as they are just with new scenes.

I noticed, I was of the minority. It just annoys me. I just find it a tad over dramatic for the show, leaving it a bad taste in my mouth. I never sit through the intro because of the theme. If I sit through the intro, that means I've just muted the television.

Mitchell82
February 5th, 2008, 02:23 PM
I noticed, I was of the minority. It just annoys me. I just find it a tad over dramatic for the show, leaving it a bad taste in my mouth. I never sit through the intro because of the theme. If I sit through the intro, that means I've just muted the television.

Wow I loved it from the start of the show. Oh well.

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 02:26 PM
Hmmm,

Joe Flanigan

Rachel Luttrell

Jason Momoa

Jewel Staite

with
Robert Picardo as:

and
David Hewlett as:

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Hmmm,

Joe Flanigan

Rachel Luttrell

Jason Momoa

Jewel Staite
with
Robert Picardo as:

and
David Hewlett as:

You've added Jewel Staite, why? We've never seen a recurring in the list. Are you too upset about the lack of women?

ToasterOnFire
February 5th, 2008, 02:35 PM
I didn't think Jewel was being bumped to a regular cast member. Wasn't she staying as recurring?

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 02:38 PM
You've added Jewel Staite, why? We've never seen a recurring in the list. Are you too upset about the lack of women?
Because JM just confirmed what I suspected. Jewel is being bumped up to regular for season 5. :)

From today's blog:

Mark B writes: “Can you confirm if Jewel Staite will be regular or recurring next season?”

Answer: Jewel will be a regular next year.



Edit: Just saw your last bit of your post. I couldn't give a, er, whatever how many women are on the show...

ToasterOnFire
February 5th, 2008, 02:42 PM
Following the trend, this means that Keller will meet an unpleasant and ridiculous end in s6. Nice. :D

jenks
February 5th, 2008, 02:43 PM
Hopefully it will be a 12-14 episodes type regular role as opposed to a 20 episode one, there just aren't enough instances where doctors are needed in scripts to warrant so many episodes.

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 02:44 PM
Because JM just confirmed what I suspected. Jewel is being bumped up to regular for season 5. :)

From today's blog:

Mark B writes: “Can you confirm if Jewel Staite will be regular or recurring next season?”

Answer: Jewel will be a regular next year.



Edit: Just saw your last bit of your post. I couldn't give a, er, whatever how many women are on the show...


Why do smell and sense brimstone and damnation?!

~sigh~ I'll miss her. :( This might take the female population to 1. Stick in there Teyla, you may the last woman standing.

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 02:55 PM
Hmmm,

Joe Flanigan

Rachel Luttrell

Jason Momoa

Jewel Staite

with
Robert Picardo as:

and
David Hewlett as:

I think it will be

Joe as Sheppard, the dashingly handsome whumpable pilot

Jason as Ronon, the secret cuddler of the group

Rachel as Teyla the pregnant warrior that can still kick shep's ass

Jewel as the quirky doctor who'll learn to rip Shep's shirt of next time she defibs him!

with Robert as Woolsey, the panic merchant who likes to butt heads

and David as Dr Rodney, he gets sweeter by the day McKay


You've added Jewel Staite, why? We've never seen a recurring in the list. Are you too upset about the lack of women?

Ummm why would Linz be upset because of the lack of women? There's plenty of women on there, we just haven't seen them yet :D

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 03:11 PM
Ummm why would Linz be upset because of the lack of women? There's plenty of women on there, we just haven't seen them yet :D

:(
Gutted...

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 03:13 PM
:(
Gutted...
Did you see my 'Yet' bit? :PWe have Teyla, Sam and Keller so not too bad on the women front and this new woman Alison Porter

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 03:14 PM
I think it will be Joe as Sheppard, the dashingly handsome whumpable pilot

Jason as Ronon, the secret cuddler of the group
Rachel as Teyla the pregnant warrior that can still kick shep's ass
Jewel as the quirky doctor who'll learn to rip Shep's shirt of next time she defibs him!
with Robert as Woolsey, the panic merchant who likes to butt heads
and David as Dr Rodney, he gets sweeter by the day McKayPeg, your insanity has reached a new high
Ummm why would Linz be upset because of the lack of women? There's plenty of women on there, we just haven't seen them yet :DJM said that Keller is going to be a regular.

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 03:15 PM
Did you see my 'Yet' bit? :PWe have Teyla, Sam and Keller so not too bad on the women front and this new woman Alison Porter

Means nothing...2 are regular, with a rumor of a limitation of one. And about 3 other's are recurring. Versus a cast of 4 regular males and 4, maybe 5 recurring. Men still dominate. It's a sore point for me...that's all.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:18 PM
Means nothing...2 are regular, with a rumor of a limitation of one. And about 3 other's are recurring. Versus a cast of 4 regular males and 4, maybe 5 recurring. Men still dominate. It's a sore point for me...that's all.

so?

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 03:21 PM
Following the trend, this means that Keller will meet an unpleasant and ridiculous end in s6. Nice. :D

That's what I said in the other thread... And then there will be a Save Jennifer Keller campaign and if TPTB love her enough she'll be back in season 7 for 5 episodes. After she went boom of course.


We have Teyla, Sam and Keller so not too bad on the women front and this new woman Alison Porter

They're a dying race...

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 03:26 PM
Peg, your insanity has reached a new highJM said that Keller is going to be a regular.

And this is something new babe? :P


Means nothing...2 are regular, with a rumor of a limitation of one. And about 3 other's are recurring. Versus a cast of 4 regular males and 4, maybe 5 recurring. Men still dominate. It's a sore point for me...that's all.

What's wrong with lots of men?


so?

:lol: I was going to say the same thing


That's what I said in the other thread... And then there will be a Save Jennifer Keller campaign and if TPTB love her enough she'll be back in season 7 for 5 episodes. After she went boom of course.

They're a dying race...

I'm going to take the fifth on this. At least Rachel's back :D

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:30 PM
:lol: I was going to say the same thing

great minds think alike :) :D

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 03:33 PM
great minds think alike :) :DIf it was anyone but Peg I would agree.
Sheppard: We need to go save Major Hankalr
Woosley: And how many men will need
Sheppard:20
Woosley: Fill out Form 368J in triplicate and Form 6587 in duplicate and fill out ammunation form 675 in quadriplicate

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 03:33 PM
great minds think alike :) :D
Indeed they do :D it'll be interesting to see how the credits are played out, I just can't imagine Robert going all wraith glowey in the blue thing at the opening credits.

Hmmmm that made no sense to me either, but in my defence I have been drinking :lol: You know what i mean though, don't you? :o

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 03:33 PM
so?
HEHE! I was going to say that! :lol:

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:37 PM
If it was anyone but Peg I would agree.
Sheppard: We need to go save Major Hankalr
Woosley: And how many men will need
Sheppard:20
Woosley: Fill out Form 368J in triplicate and Form 6587 in duplicate and fill out ammunation form 675 in quadriplicate

:lol:


Indeed they do :D it'll be interesting to see how the credits are played out, I just can't imagine Robert going all wraith glowey in the blue thing at the opening credits.

Hmmmm that made no sense to me either, but in my defence I have been drinking :lol: You know what i mean though, don't you? :o

yup I know exactly what you mean :D


HEHE! I was going to say that! :lol:

welcome to our humble club :P

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 03:38 PM
What's wrong with lots of men?

I can think of a reason but it wouldn't matter what I think, cause I belong in a minority anyway.


At least Rachel's back :D

Of course, sturdy wallpaper... the best kind. Water-resistant and all that...


Sheppard: We need to go save Major Hankalr
Woosley: And how many men will need
Sheppard:20
Woosley: Fill out Form 368J in triplicate and Form 6587 in duplicate and fill out ammunation form 675 in quadriplicate

:lol:

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 03:39 PM
I didn't think Jewel was being bumped to a regular cast member. Wasn't she staying as recurring?

Unfortunately no.

I think Linzi's list will probably be how it turns out. Jason won't be pushed up over Rachel, so I think she will take the second spot now, and everyone else will slide up.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:42 PM
Unfortunately no.

I think Linzi's list will probably be how it turns out. Jason won't be pushed up over Rachel, so I think she will take the second spot now, and everyone else will slide up.

Joe confirmed that Keller will be a regular in s5

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Joe confirmed that Keller will be a regular in s5

Right. That's what I meant by unfortunately. :D

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 03:44 PM
Jel, and you say i've lost the plot! ;) :P :D I can just see it and don't get me started. :lol:

:lol:
yup I know exactly what you mean :D

Excellent! Can you explain it to me then? :lol:




welcome to our humble club :P

Humble, but oh so elite :D


I can think of a reason but it wouldn't matter what I think, cause I belong in a minority anyway.



Of course, sturdy wallpaper... the best kind. Water-resistant and all that...



:lol:

:lol: She's not wallpaper, she's had some great stuff and i still think she'll be third on the list *attempts to stay on topic are falling by the wayside* :o


Unfortunately no.

I think Linzi's list will probably be how it turns out.

*waves*

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 03:46 PM
:lol: She's not wallpaper, she's had some great stuff and i still think she'll be third on the list *attempts to stay on topic are falling by the wayside* :o

*waves*

*waves back* :D

Are we talking about Teyla? Why would she be third? Who would be second?

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Jel, and you say i've lost the plot! ;) :P :D I can just see it and don't get me started. :lol:I never said I was sane
*gulps five different kinds of drugs*
Sheppard: A Wraith Hive ship is approaching Atlantis.
Woosey: I better check the IOA'suggested protocol on Wraith encounters

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Excellent! Can you explain it to me then? :lol:

I'm not sure I can :lol:


Humble, but oh so elite :D

:indeed: :D

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:48 PM
*waves back* :D

Are we talking about Teyla? Why would she be third? Who would be second?

Woolsey?

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 03:49 PM
What's wrong with lots of men?

The problem is that the women aren't viable and I find in comparison to the men, the women are even less worth their presence in salt. Further more, there is less focused and thought out attention on the women, while the men are given definitely more well though direction. This is not always the case and I have had my moments of looking at Shep wrong.

I'm a bit frustrated by the marginalization of the women that we've gotten for 4 seasons. Yes, Teyla is given a new direction, but not really any strong development. Yes, we have Keller, but currently she's a face seen in few eps...admittedly news says that will change. Carter was a fill in and never really forged a solid mark for me as leader, although I liked her..."interim" is a better title for her than Woolsey. Weir is now evil and basically and in and out character, further more she's recurring.

This season there was one female regular, or as regular as they come and that's Teyla. Carter coming in second. The men on the other hand have more than one ep dedicated to their fiascos and adventures. I don't have a problem with that, but I'd like to see more for the women.

Do I have high hopes for S5, I have hopes and that's it. I still get the felling the men will still take a lead in representation.

Currently I hope they have a sliders show and they end up in a universe that is all women and Lt. Col. John Sheppard is now Lt. Col Joanna Sheppard. Dr. Meredith Rodney McKay is now Dr. Meredith Rodell McKay. Finally, Specialist Ronon Dex is Specialist Rhonda Dex. I can't curse a woman to the fate of the last name Woolsey. :o


After seeing Linzi's post to Jewel's new status then I'd go with Linzi's line up but I wouldn't be surprised if Woolsey just went in line and took Carter's spot.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 03:50 PM
Woolsey?

Second.... oh great... *headdesk* ... No way, he's not second-slot material.

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 03:50 PM
Woolsey?

There's no way Woolsey will be second. He'll be at the end, right before Rodney, or maybe Keller.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Second.... oh great... *headdesk* ... No way, he's not second-slot material.

IDK...Weir was second and so was Carter. why would TBTB change this?

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 03:55 PM
*waves back* :D

Are we talking about Teyla? Why would she be third? Who would be second?

What was the question again? :lol:

*looks at thread title*

Okay i'm with it now. I thought Jason was going to be second and Rachel third :D


I never said I was sane
*gulps five different kinds of drugs*
Sheppard: A Wraith Hive ship is approaching Atlantis.
Woosey: I better check the IOA'suggested protocol on Wraith encounters

My bad, sorry, want some of my meds they seem to be working now, had a glitch earlier but i'm good to go now. :D


I'm not sure I can :lol:



:indeed: :D

Shall we forget I said anything then?

Ooh look a flying pig!

http://www.otherlandtoys.co.uk/flyingpig2_500.jpg

*makes a hasty retreat*

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 03:55 PM
IDK...Weir was second and so was Carter. why would TBTB change this?

Cause Robert Picardo is an B+ - lister who will want to have a Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey... very high profile.

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 03:56 PM
There's no way Woolsey will be second. He'll be at the end, right before Rodney, or maybe Keller.
Well normally I'd think RP would go in where AT is. Certainly in terms of contract negotiations it'd be easier to keep everyone else where they are presently. However, I think RP is too senior an actor not to have a special spot towards the end of the credits. it'd be easier to intert RP before DH and have Jewel as number 2 in the credits, but, honestly, I can't see that happening.

vaberella
February 5th, 2008, 03:56 PM
IDK...Weir was second and so was Carter. why would TBTB change this?

I thought Weir was first and then John. Then Carter was first and then John.

But I'm not solid on the openers, that damn theme always had me running away or fast forwarding.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 03:58 PM
...have Jewel as number 2 in the credits...

Yeah right, Rachel will be happy to see that... not. (I hope her agent does a fab job and demands 2nd billing)

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 03:58 PM
IDK...Weir was second and so was Carter. why would TBTB change this?

I think Amanda only got second billing because of her years with the show and probably her contract. TPTB are wanting to restructure the show from when Weir was leader so that the commander isn't as high priority as the team, and with Picardo being a new regular to the show, he's going to get added on to the end.


Okay i'm with it now. I thought Jason was going to be second and Rachel third :D


That would be odd if Jason was promoted two spots over Rachel, who's been with the show longer. I don't think it'll happen, but I could be wrong.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 03:58 PM
My bad, sorry, want some of my meds they seem to be working now, had a glitch earlier but i'm good to go now. :D

they do? great can I have some?


Shall we forget I said anything then?

as you wish :P


Ooh look a flying pig!

http://www.otherlandtoys.co.uk/flyingpig2_500.jpg

*makes a hasty retreat*

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Cause Robert Picardo is an B+ - lister who will want to have a Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey... very high profile.

so? he's the new boss, as were Weir and Carter

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 03:59 PM
What was the question again? :lol:?*?*Shall we forget I said anything then??*Ooh look a flying pig!?*http://www.otherlandtoys.co.uk/flyingpig2_500.jpg?**makes a hasty retreat*Look, a picture of Linzi. I think we will see an overhall of the opening credits kind of like when S2 of Atlantis started.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 04:00 PM
I thought Weir was first and then John. Then Carter was first and then John.

But I'm not solid on the openers, that damn theme always had me running away or fast forwarding.

:eek: really? you don't loke the theme? :P


I think Amanda only got second billing because of her years with the show and probably her contract. TPTB are wanting to restructure the show from when Weir was leader so that the commander isn't as high priority as the team, and with Picardo being a new regular to the show, he's going to get added on to the end.

could be

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 04:01 PM
Well normally I'd think RP would go in where AT is. Certainly in terms of contract negotiations it'd be easier to keep everyone else where they are presently. However, I think RP is too senior an actor not to have a special spot towards the end of the credits. it'd be easier to intert RP before DH and have Jewel as number 2 in the credits, but, honestly, I can't see that happening.

No, Jewel's not going to be number two. And while Picardo may be a senior actor, he's still new to the show (as a regular), and coming into a support role (JM's description of the leader role). Honestly, I think if it had been anyone but Amanda replacing Torri, they wouldn't have been in the second spot either. They would have been at the end where Don Davis and Beau Bridges always were.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:02 PM
so? he's the new boss, as were Weir and Carter

Yes, but Robert Picardo is higher profile'd actor than TH or AT. He probably has needs... well, of course he has needs... but actorial needs... (hey look, I invented a new word)

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 04:04 PM
Yes, but Robert Picardo is higher profile'd actor than TH or AT. He probably has needs... well, of course he has needs... but actorial needs... (hey look, I invented a new word)

needs? actorial needs? :P

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:06 PM
:eek: really? you don't like the theme? :P

Like the theme...but skip through it nonetheless...


needs? actorial needs? :P

It's 2am.

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 04:08 PM
Like the theme...but skip through it nonetheless...It's 2am.I find your insanity remains stable if forget about sleep all together.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 04:08 PM
Like the theme...but skip through it nonetheless...

well I like it :D


It's 2am.

oh I wasn't making fun of you if that's what you're thinking. I just like this new word :P

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Well normally I'd think RP would go in where AT is. Certainly in terms of contract negotiations it'd be easier to keep everyone else where they are presently. However, I think RP is too senior an actor not to have a special spot towards the end of the credits. it'd be easier to intert RP before DH and have Jewel as number 2 in the credits, but, honestly, I can't see that happening.

:eek: :eek: :eek:


I thought Weir was first and then John. Then Carter was first and then John.

But I'm not solid on the openers, that damn theme always had me running away or fast forwarding.

No Joe was always first in the credits and David's always been last, Torri was second (then Amanda after that).


I think Amanda only got second billing because of her years with the show and probably her contract. TPTB are wanting to restructure the show from when Weir was leader so that the commander isn't as high priority as the team, and with Picardo being a new regular to the show, he's going to get added on to the end.

That would be odd if Jason was promoted two spots over Rachel, who's been with the show longer. I don't think it'll happen, but I could be wrong.

Very possibly. To be honest i've never been any good at these sorts of things, because it's based on contracts, so it's possible Robert could be second, but I think he'll come just behind David.


they do? great can I have some?



as you wish :P



:lol: :lol: :lol:



so? he's the new boss, as were Weir and Carter

*passes over the nutty pills* :D


Look, a picture of Linzi. I think we will see an overhall of the opening credits kind of like when S2 of Atlantis started.

*flexes the whip*

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 04:10 PM
I thought Weir was first and then John. Then Carter was first and then John.

But I'm not solid on the openers, that damn theme always had me running away or fast forwarding.
Nope. Joe has always been first, hence he's the lead of the show. The second most prestigious spot goes to David, then it's number 2, etc... These spots in the credits are highly sought after and are written into contracts.

Yeah right, Rachel will be happy to see that... not. (I hope her agent does a fab job and demands 2nd billing)
Oh, hon. She won't get that. I was just saying that contractually if that happened then they wouldn't have to renegotiate all the other contracts except Joe's and David's. Honestly it's easier to just put RP where Amanda is and Jewel before David. But, I just think a spot before David with Woolsey's name might be considered more prestigious for RP.

I think Amanda only got second billing because of her years with the show and probably her contract. TPTB are wanting to restructure the show from when Weir was leader so that the commander isn't as high priority as the team, and with Picardo being a new regular to the show, he's going to get added on to the end.




That would be odd if Jason was promoted two spots over Rachel, who's been with the show longer. I don't think it'll happen, but I could be wrong.
I don't think so either.

Look, a picture of Linzi. I think we will see an overhall of the opening credits kind of like when S2 of Atlantis started.
:eek: Are you saying I look like a flying pig! ;)

No, Jewel's not going to be number two. And while Picardo may be a senior actor, he's still new to the show, and coming into a support role (JM's description of the leader role). Honestly, I think if it had been anyone but Amanda replacing Torri, they wouldn't have been in the second spot either. They would have been at the end where Don Davis and Beau Bridges always were.

No, Jewel won't be, I don't think. But those end credits are considered places of honour generally, especially if it's a 'with RP as Richard Woolsey' I thought they'd do that with AT last year, but she was number two. I guess they could slot RP in that spot too. It'll be interesting to see.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:11 PM
I find your insanity remains stable if forget about sleep all together.

I wish I could just skip sleep tonight but I'm meeting a friend of mine tomorrow, which requires me to be somewhat awake in order not to get on the wrong train or something.


oh I wasn't making fun of you if that's what you're thinking. I just like this new word :P

Yay, for the new word. :)

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 04:12 PM
*flexes the whip*Haven't you learned by now, I am immune to your whip.

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 04:13 PM
I think it will probably be: (I think Linzi already said this :))

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Luttrell
Jason Momoa
Jewel Staite

Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
and David Hewlett as Dr Rodney McKay

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 04:14 PM
No Joe was always first in the credits and David's always been last, Torri was second (then Amanda after that).

yup


Very possibly. To be honest i've never been any good at these sorts of things, because it's based on contracts, so it's possible Robert could be second, but I think he'll come just behind David.

David? you mean Hewlett? because that won't happen, he's the co-star (I bet you know who the star is :P)


*passes over the nutty pills* :D

ah thanks *bows* :eek: crap I did that the last time! oh boy...

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 04:15 PM
Yay, for the new word. :)

woohoo :D

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 04:16 PM
I think it will probably be: (I think Linzi already said this :))

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Luttrell
Jason Momoa
Jewel Staite

Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
and David Hewlett as Dr Rodney McKay
I think that's most likely. But I thought it'd be like that last season and it wasn't. Well with Amanda before David in the credits. :o

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 04:17 PM
Haven't you learned by now, I am immune to your whip.
:eek:

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 04:17 PM
I think that's most likely. But I thought it'd be like that last season and it wasn't. Well with Amanda before David in the credits. :oThe flying pig has spoken.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:17 PM
...prestigious...

That's the word I was looking for earlier... *sigh* I need to put my brains to sleep.

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 04:18 PM
yup



David? you mean Hewlett? because that won't happen, he's the co-star (I bet you know who the star is :P)



ah thanks *bows* :eek: crap I did that the last time! oh boy...
Ok. I seriously need to get my mind out the gutter. :o

I think Peg meant that RP would come before David at the end of the credits, not come behind him. I'm not saying anything....;)

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 04:19 PM
yup



David? you mean Hewlett? because that won't happen, he's the co-star (I bet you know who the star is :P)



ah thanks *bows* :eek: crap I did that the last time! oh boy...

ok i know it's late so stay with me hon. :D Joe and David always have first and last in the credits, so Robert will go somewhere in between, he'll either go immediately after Joe, or I think just before David. I think, :lol: However at this time of nite i can't think anymore. :o

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 04:19 PM
The flying pig has spoken.
:eek: Oink, oink? ;)

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 04:20 PM
I think that's most likely. But I thought it'd be like that last season and it wasn't. Well with Amanda before David in the credits. :o

Well, I did too, but I always kind of had a feeling that they might put Amanda in Torri's spot. But it's not the same situation here. Woolsey doesn't have near the Stargate profile that Carter did - he's a minor character at best (he's only been in 12 episodes if you add both shows together). So I don't think he'll get the same consideration.

I could be wrong. ;) Guess we'll see.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:21 PM
You know that whole gutter-thought-pattern.... Peg, you just made it worse.

*runs away scared*

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 04:22 PM
The flying pig has spoken.

You do remember i'm a whumper don't you, I can come up with creative ways of whumping you without the whip. ;)


Ok. I seriously need to get my mind out the gutter. :o

I think Peg meant that RP would come before David at the end of the credits, not come behind him. I'm not saying anything....;)

:eek: Dirty lil minx! Yes that's what I meant. :o

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 04:23 PM
You know that whole gutter-thought-pattern.... Peg, you just made it worse.*runs away scared*This should make you feel better better. (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s4/404/html/doppleganger0573.html)
I'm feeling a little weird tonight.

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 04:23 PM
Ok. I seriously need to get my mind out the gutter. :o

I think Peg meant that RP would come before David at the end of the credits, not come behind him. I'm not saying anything....;)

:eek: gutter? what did I say??? oh no wait now I get it :P


ok i know it's late so stay with me hon. :D Joe and David always have first and last in the credits, so Robert will go somewhere in between, he'll either go immediately after Joe, or I think just before David. I think, :lol: However at this time of nite i can't think anymore. :o

ah ok yeah that's what I thought too. still thinking alike... :D


You know that whole gutter-thought-pattern.... Peg, you just made it worse.

*runs away scared*

:lol:

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 04:25 PM
You do remember i'm a whumper don't you, I can come up with creative ways of whumping you without the whip. ;)?*Your friend Pocus said the same thing. I didn't believe her either.

JohnRico
February 5th, 2008, 04:27 PM
I can see them doing this just to tick off the fans

John
Richard
Jason
David
Jewel

& no Teyla

Pegasus_SGA
February 5th, 2008, 04:27 PM
This should make you feel better better. (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s4/404/html/doppleganger0573.html)
I'm feeling a little weird tonight.

:eek: Jel!! That's not very nice. Weird tonight? JUST tonight? You want to amend that statement


:eek: gutter? what did I say??? oh no wait now I get it :P



ah ok yeah that's what I thought too. still thinking alike... :D



:lol:

It's ok hon, we have pure innocent minds they're all just dirty. :P

*adjust the halo*

So!! How about them credits then? :lol:

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:27 PM
This should make you feel better better. (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s4/404/html/doppleganger0573.html)
I'm feeling a little weird tonight.

Trying to make me jump, are you? I'm a lemming... it's what I do for life...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/FalconHorus/Funky%20Stuff/Lemming/Surf_Lemming2.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/FalconHorus/Funky%20Stuff/Lemming/LemmingZone.jpg

Linzi
February 5th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Well, I did too, but I always kind of had a feeling that they might put Amanda in Torri's spot. But it's not the same situation here. Woolsey doesn't have near the Stargate profile that Carter did - he's a minor character at best (he's only been in 12 episodes if you add both shows together). So I don't think he'll get the same consideration.

I could be wrong. ;) Guess we'll see.
But he's quite a well thought of actor. Quite high profile for scifi - or certainly within the scifi genre. That's why I'm not sure. Fame wise, I think he's better known by Joe Public than AT is, and that seems to count a fair amount in the showbiz world.

How long until we find out? :lol:

Killdeer
February 5th, 2008, 04:29 PM
But he's quite a well thought of actor. Quite high profile for scifi - or certainly within the scifi genre. That's why I'm not sure. Fame wise, I think he's better known by Joe Public than AT is, and that seems to count a fair amount in the showbiz world.

How long until we find out? :lol:

:D Probably months. OK, but isn't Beau Bridges also supposed to be a rather well known actor? And he got the last spot on SG-1, well, right before Michael Shanks.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:29 PM
I can see them doing this just to tick off the fans

John
Richard
Jason
David
Jewel

& no Teyla

They wouldn't even notice...Well, I would... I think.

jelgate
February 5th, 2008, 04:29 PM
:eek: Jel!! That's not very nice. Weird tonight? JUST tonight??* You want to amend that statement?*?*It's ok hon, we have pure innocent minds they're all just dirty. :P?**adjust the halo*?*So!! How about them credits then? :lol:Weirder than usual. I needed lot of crazyiness tonight after the events in RL. Now, what was the topic of this thread.

Falcon Horus
February 5th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Now, what was the topic of this thread.

Good question... :p

Jumper_One
February 5th, 2008, 04:31 PM
It's ok hon, we have pure innocent minds they're all just dirty. :P

really? I hope I can quote you? :P


*adjust the halo*

So!! How about them credits then? :lol:

:lol:

txTart
February 5th, 2008, 05:24 PM
I'd love to see a brand spanking new intro. SGA has the prettiest cast anywhere and that intro is not all that flattering to any of them.

Mitchell82
February 5th, 2008, 05:31 PM
Hmmm,

Joe Flanigan

Rachel Luttrell

Jason Momoa

Jewel Staite

with
Robert Picardo as:

and
David Hewlett as:
Yup makes sense.

MattSilver 3k
February 11th, 2008, 04:14 AM
Oh yeah - spoilers I guess.



If the 6 cast (Sheppard, Teyla, Ronon, McKay, Woolsey and Keller) we have now are "it", what would the order be in the credits?

My guess:
- Joe Flanigan - Sheppard
- Rachel Lutrell - Teyla
- Jason Momoa - Ronon
- Jewel Staite - Keller
with David Hewlett as Mckay
and Robert Picardo as Woolsey

Post what you think the order will be...

CazzBlade
February 11th, 2008, 04:21 AM
I think the last two will be the other way around, so with RP, and DH. The last spot is the second most prominent after the first so DH isn't going to give that up and I'm hoping that Woolsey isn't going to be that prominent to deserve that spot.

I hope Teyla comes second, its about team she was considered the leading lady. :teyla:

doylefan22
February 11th, 2008, 04:35 AM
Yeah I agree with the above. DH will still have his last spot. I expect RP with either go second (as Amanda did this season) or second to last with 'Robert Picardo as Woolsey' (as Paul McGillion used to).

Pharaoh Atem
February 11th, 2008, 04:41 AM
Oh yeah - spoilers I guess.



If the 6 cast (Sheppard, Teyla, Ronon, McKay, Woolsey and Keller) we have now are "it", what would the order be in the credits?

My guess:
- Joe Flanigan - Sheppard
- Rachel Lutrell - Teyla
- Jason Momoa - Ronon
- Jewel Staite - Keller
with David Hewlett as Mckay
and Robert Picardo as Woolsey

Post what you think the order will be...
the only change as far as i'm concern will be that woolsey will take weir.carters position.

i hope jewel isn't in the credits ...considering how long the doctors last on the show

melfan
February 11th, 2008, 04:54 AM
New Opening needed, they had the same credits since season 2, it's time for a change, new visual, same music

jenks
February 11th, 2008, 04:57 AM
Joe Flanigan - Sheppard
Robert Picardo - Woolsey
Rachel Lutrell - Teyla
Jason Momoa - Ronon
Jewel Staite - Keller
David Hewlett as Mckay

DigiFluid
February 11th, 2008, 04:59 AM
At a guess...

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Luttrell
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
with Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
and David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

Pharaoh Atem
February 11th, 2008, 05:07 AM
New Opening needed, they had the same credits since season 2, it's time for a change, new visual, same music

i miss the puddle jumper @ the beginning

melfan
February 11th, 2008, 05:08 AM
Joe Flanigan
Robert Picardo
Rachel Luttrell
Jason Moma
with Jewel Staite as Dr. Jennifer Keller
and David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 05:17 AM
The pissing off the fans way

Joe Flanigan
Leela Savasta
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

The some what good way

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Lutrell
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 05:20 AM
The pissing off the fans way

Joe Flanigan
Leela Savasta
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

The some what good way

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Lutrell
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

Falcon Horus
February 11th, 2008, 05:32 AM
The pissing off the fans way

Joe Flanigan
Leela Savasta
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

You really think it would piss the fans off? The amount of screentime Teyla (RL) has, she could just as well be a recurring character.

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 05:34 AM
You really think it would piss the fans off

Teyla fans yes & fans in general are very sensitive after all

jelgate
February 11th, 2008, 05:35 AM
You really think it would piss the fans off? The amount of screentime Teyla (RL) has, she could just as well be a recurring character.

Damn RL and her pregnancy.:P

Falcon Horus
February 11th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Teyla fans yes & fans in general are very sensitive after all

I guess...


Damn RL and her pregnancy.:P

*sigh* And what was the excuse the precious seasons? :cool:

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 05:40 AM
I guess...


They could always keep Carter in the credits just for the hell of it & they still replace Rachel with the new chick. Now we're talking

jenks
February 11th, 2008, 05:42 AM
The pissing off the fans way

Joe Flanigan
Leela Savasta
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

The some what good way

Joe Flanigan
Rachel Lutrell
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay

What ever they do, some 'fans' will find a way to complain about it.

Jeff O'Connor
February 11th, 2008, 05:44 AM
Joe Flanigan
Rachel Luttrell
Jason Momoa
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
And David Hewlett as Rodney McKay

Falcon Horus
February 11th, 2008, 05:45 AM
They could always keep Carter in the credits just for the hell of it & they still replace Rachel with the new chick. Now we're talking

That would most certainly do it for me... but just because Carter is there... :p

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 05:46 AM
That would most certainly do it for me... but just because Carter is there... :p

& for when Daniel comes in for those two episodes add HIM in the credits along WITH Carter & still no Rachel

YES

Falcon Horus
February 11th, 2008, 05:49 AM
& for when Daniel comes in for those two episodes add HIM in the credits along WITH Carter & still no Rachel

YES

Evil! :p

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 05:51 AM
Evil! :p

Teal'C should get in the credits this week while we are at it. He can replace Sheppard

Falcon Horus
February 11th, 2008, 05:54 AM
Teal'C should get in the credits this week while we are at it. He can replace Sheppard

Shouldn't be a problem... :p

jelgate
February 11th, 2008, 05:54 AM
Evil! :p

I'm the evil one on this forum


*plots FH's demise*

Jeff O'Connor
February 11th, 2008, 05:57 AM
CHANGE IS COMING TO ATLANTIS.

David Nykl
Torri Higginson
Kavan Smith
with Rainbow Sun Francks as Aiden Ford
and Paul McGillion as Carson Beckett

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 06:00 AM
CHANGE IS COMING TO ATLANTIS.

David Nykl
Torri Higginson
Kavan Smith
with Rainbow Sun Francks as Aiden Ford
and Paul McGillion as Carson Beckett


I wouldnt even joke about that one character at this site. Her fannies will destroy you

Jeff O'Connor
February 11th, 2008, 06:03 AM
Au contrare, perhaps after seeing the cast adjustments, somehow Torri was convinced that the series is taking a turn for the better and offers to return on one condition -- she's made regular again. Given that Joe, David, Rachel and Jason all apparently walked out in a fit over Nykl taking the top spot, TPTB would have little choice but to...

...oh, fine, you're right, I'm digging deeper, here. :S

JohnRico
February 11th, 2008, 06:05 AM
Au contrare, perhaps after seeing the cast adjustments, somehow Torri was convinced that the series is taking a turn for the better and offers to return on one condition -- she's made regular again. Given that Joe, David, Rachel and Jason all apparently walked out in a fit over Nykl taking the top spot, TPTB would have little choice but to...

...oh, fine, you're right, I'm digging deeper, here. :S

I think it is safe to say that after the first fall out with an Actor or Actress they are never to be seen again unless they want to be seen. In that case if they see you before you see them look out

Falcon Horus
February 11th, 2008, 06:13 AM
I'm the evil one on this forum
*plots FH's demise*

Of course, your evil highness... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/FalconHorus/Smiley/Other/smile166.gif


CHANGE IS COMING TO ATLANTIS.

David Nykl
Torri Higginson
Kavan Smith
with Rainbow Sun Francks as Aiden Ford
and Paul McGillion as Carson Beckett


LOL :lol: ... can't green you, so have some virtual green.


...oh, fine, you're right, I'm digging deeper, here. :S

Open mouth, insert foot. :p

Jeff O'Connor
February 11th, 2008, 06:21 AM
LOL :lol: ... can't green you, so have some virtual green

Much appreciated. ;)



Open mouth, insert foot. :p

Eheheh.

Anubis-
February 11th, 2008, 06:39 AM
Oh yeah - spoilers I guess.



If the 6 cast (Sheppard, Teyla, Ronon, McKay, Woolsey and Keller) we have now are "it", what would the order be in the credits?

My guess:
- Joe Flanigan - Sheppard
- Rachel Lutrell - Teyla
- Jason Momoa - Ronon
- Jewel Staite - Keller
with David Hewlett as Mckay
and Robert Picardo as Woolsey

Post what you think the order will be...

Tell me, what different means that someone is "as {something}"? Why is not everyone just mentioned like others?

Pharaoh Atem
February 11th, 2008, 06:42 AM
CHANGE IS COMING TO ATLANTIS.

David Nykl
Torri Higginson
Kavan Smith
with Rainbow Sun Francks as Aiden Ford
and Paul McGillion as Carson Beckett



virtual green for you :D i'll come find you when i can give you some

Jeff O'Connor
February 11th, 2008, 06:46 AM
virtual green for you :D i'll come find you when i can give you some

Whoohoo. I guess my overly jovial nature today is paying off. :)

Pharaoh Atem
February 11th, 2008, 06:49 AM
Whoohoo. I guess my overly jovial nature today is paying off. :)

i like your list but if it was me i would add mckay :D

Jeff O'Connor
February 11th, 2008, 06:54 AM
i like your list but if it was me i would add mckay :D

I would have, but I wanted nothing but surprises. ;)

maxbo
February 11th, 2008, 07:26 AM
I can see them doing this just to tick off the fans

John
Richard
Jason
David
Jewel

& no Teyla


The pissing off the fans way

Joe Flanigan
Leela Savasta
Jason Moma
Jewel Staite
With Robert Picardo as Richard Woolsey
& David Hewlett as Dr. Rodney McKay


They could always keep Carter in the credits just for the hell of it & they still replace Rachel with the new chick. Now we're talking


& for when Daniel comes in for those two episodes add HIM in the credits along WITH Carter & still no Rachel

YES


CHANGE IS COMING TO ATLANTIS.

David Nykl
Torri Higginson
Kavan Smith
with Rainbow Sun Francks as Aiden Ford
and Paul McGillion as Carson Beckett


Whoa - wicked! Just imagine the level of fandom explosions these opening credits would generate. :lol:

The Signal
February 11th, 2008, 08:00 AM
It's considered a higher billing, so the biggest characters are either given the first credit, or the last/second from last places, ie. "and Michael Shanks as Daniel Jackson"

Amalthea
February 11th, 2008, 10:04 AM
I'm trying to remember where Hammond was back in his leadership days... wherever that was, I say that's where Woolsey will be.

Amalthea
February 11th, 2008, 10:05 AM
CHANGE IS COMING TO ATLANTIS.

David Nykl
Torri Higginson
Kavan Smith
with Rainbow Sun Francks as Aiden Ford
and Paul McGillion as Carson Beckett


Is this alternate dimension Atlantis?

PS... how did there come to be 2 threads about this?

Pitry
February 11th, 2008, 10:06 AM
Whoa - wicked! Just imagine the level of fandom explosions these opening credits would generate. :lol:

Nevermind fan explosions, I migth even find myself interested in Atlantis again! Shock shock, horror horror :)

Mitchell82
February 11th, 2008, 11:23 AM
Whoa - wicked! Just imagine the level of fandom explosions these opening credits would generate. :lol:

The entire fandom would explode and the internet across the world will crash.

Mitchell82
February 11th, 2008, 11:27 AM
Oh yeah - spoilers I guess.



If the 6 cast (Sheppard, Teyla, Ronon, McKay, Woolsey and Keller) we have now are "it", what would the order be in the credits?

My guess:
- Joe Flanigan - Sheppard
- Rachel Lutrell - Teyla
- Jason Momoa - Ronon
- Jewel Staite - Keller
with David Hewlett as Mckay
and Robert Picardo as Woolsey

Post what you think the order will be...
Most likely correct except David and Robert likely will be switched. Also there is already a thread for this.http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=51097

FoolishPleasure
February 11th, 2008, 12:22 PM
What ever they do, some 'fans' will find a way to complain about it.

Well, the thought of Keller in the opening credits is a bit stomach wrenching. ;)