rate the stargate ships

[mickhhh]

here is a list of ships most powerful to least powerful.

city ship, Ancient
Odyssey unending upgrades with ZPM
Aurora class (Ancient controlled)
Ori warship
304 with asgard weapons (no ZPM)
Aurora class (Asuran)
Anubis's mothership
REPLICATOR hatack
O'Neill class
REPLICATOR stolen ship (Enemies)
Ancient/Asuran cruiser
Anubis's Ha'tak
Apophis's mothership
Wraith hive ship
Asgard science vessel (DANIEL JACKSON class)
Beliskner class
304 (before unending)
Ha'tak
Wraith cruiser
303 (Prometheus)
Ra's mothership
Puddle Jumper
Al'kesh
Ori fighter
F-302
needle-threader
Tel'tak
Dart, Wraith
death glider

what do u think of this list. i dont have a good reason for a lot of these ships to be were they are its just were i think they should be, how about you?

[rlr149]

puddle jumper and 2 drones can destroy a hatak(it was oniell though)

[Jeffala]

puddle jumper and 2 drones can destroy a hatak(it was oniell though)

I doubt a particularly potent gene would add additional power to the drones. It might make it easier to target the ship, but he didn't really have any clue what he was doing at the time.


I think the Ori fighters should be moved up. The Ori fighters decimated the Jaffa squadrons protecting Chulak and would probably do the same to the 302s, Al'kesh (were there Al'kesh at Chulak?), and maybe the Prometheus.

[mickhhh]

I doubt a particularly potent gene would add additional power to the drones. It might make it easier to target the ship, but he didn't really have any clue what he was doing at the time.


I think the Ori fighters should be moved up. The Ori fighters decimated the Jaffa squadrons protecting Chulak and would probably do the same to the 302s, Al'kesh (were there Al'kesh at Chulak?), and maybe the Prometheus.

the ori fighters would probly win any dog fight with any fighter but i doubt it would have enough fire power to damage any larger ships sheilds such as the Prometheus.

[rlr149]

I doubt a particularly potent gene would add additional power to the drones. It might make it easier to target the ship, but he didn't really have any clue what he was doing at the time.

irrelevant, did it or did it not destroy a hatak? i only mention oniell cos he's awesome anyway not including the gene, maybe it was his innate awesomeness that was the clincher

[fugiman]

Well the first thing I would argue is that a ha'tak could beat a regular 304 any day of the weak

But thats the first thing I saw but this list could be debated very easily and you should have posted this in the science and tech section

[jonos101]

good but i think the 303 should go above wraith cruiser

[RepliVeggie]

I don't think that a 304 with ZPM and Asgard tech is above an Alteran Aurora.

[2ndgenerationalteran]

my rates

city ship, Ancient
Aurora class (Ancient built and controlled with ZPM)
Odyssey unending upgrades with ZPM
Ori warship= 304 with asgard weapons (no ZPM)= Aurora class (Asuran)
O'Neill class
Anubis's mothership
REPLICATOR hatack =REPLICATOR stolen ship (Enemies)
Wraith hive ship
Ancient/Asuran cruiser
Asgard science vessel (DANIEL JACKSON class)
Anubis's Ha'tak
Apophis's mothership
Beliskner class
304 (before unending)
Wraith cruiser
Ha'tak
303 (Prometheus)
Ra's mothership
Puddle Jumper
Al'kesh
Ori fighter
F-302
needle-threader
Dart, Wraith
death glider
Tel'tak

[JSPuddlejumper]

City ship, Ancient
Odyssey unending upgrades with ZPM
Ori warship=304 with asgard weapons (no ZPM)
Aurora class (with ZPM)
Annubis mothership with the Eyes
O'Neill class=Aurora class (Asuran, no ZPM)
REPLICATOR stolen ship (Enemies)
Replicator block squid ship
Anubis's mothership=Wraith Hive
Apophis's mothership
Replicator Ha'tak
Ha'tak with upgrades=Ancient/Asuran cruiser
Beliskner class
Asgard science vessel (DANIEL JACKSON class)
304 (before unending)
Ha'tak
Wraith cruiser
303 (Prometheus)
Ra's mothership
Puddle Jumper
Ori fighter
Al'kesh
F-302
needle-threader
Tel'tak
Dart, Wraith
death glider


Now, if the Replicator block squid ship can launch Replicator bombs which bypass all the shields mentioned above before it can be 'destroyed', then it is #1 on my list. The Replicators will get on board and start taking over.

With the ownage the 304's did to the Aurora's, no way are they equal. Because of the lack of a ZPM, I am going to assume that the shields were much weaker due to this, and why drones were not fired on mass (in order to do this, they would need to shut off shields, due to lack of power???) Need to strap on a ZPM.

[peragrin]

why are you people putting a 304 above a hat'ek and wraith cruiser? Both vessels could take a 304 without beam weapons. The daedulas attacks a hive ships with nukes the moment it came out of hyperspace and it still only slightly damaged the vessel. The Odessey with railguns could barely annoy a standard lucian alliance ha'tek.

while a 304 has greater shielding, it's weapons were sucky. I would rate the three nearly equal as tactics are the only way for a 304 to win againist them. a straight slug fest the 304 would lose.

[JSPuddlejumper]

304 (minus beams or other upgrades) took on a whole fleet of Hives in the Siege Part III

No Man's Land, the 304 was taking on 2 Hives before the Aurora came in.

And the Daedalus managed to defeat 1 Hive in that confrontation. Although it was exploiting a weakness, without which the 304 likely would have lost.

So without a doubt a 304 is superior to a Wraith cruiser if it can take so much punishment from a Hive!

As for the Ha'tak, the info given in the series makes one conclude a 304 is superior to a Ha'tak.

[kirmit]

I'd put an Ori ship above an Aurora, the problem with the Ori ship was that it fell into weak plots to try and make earth look more powerful. infact AOT

Spoiler:

despite the completely ridiculous scenario with the 4 ori ships in AOT I'd still put an Ori ship level with the upgraded Oddy

. Although to be fair TPTB never follow continuity so any ship on the list could be more powerful than another to suit TPTBs needs.

[JSPuddlejumper]

Aurora with a ZPM should enable it for fire 100+ drones at once. If not, it is completely TOAST against a Ori ship.

Against a Ori ship, it will probably take 3-4 beams to destroy the Aurora with a ZPM. 2-3 takes out shields, 1 shot destroys. If the ships are close, and drones are fast enough, I see a double KO scenario, imagine 100's of drones impacting Ori shields.

I think you are right Kirmit, I seem to have too many IF scenario's in order for a Aurora with a ZPM to win. Thus I will change the order slightly.

There is no way a Ori ship is on level with the upgraded Odyssey. Each encounter, the Odyssey has proven superior or (way superior) against 1 Ori ship.

[peragrin]

304 (minus beams or other upgrades) took on a whole fleet of Hives in the Siege Part III

The only reason we won those battles is because we deployed nukes inside the Hives with beaming tech. As stated by Hermoid the shields would have failed in minutes had those ships not been destroyed from the inside. The Missiles had zero effect againist them at range.

No Man's Land, the 304 was taking on 2 Hives before the Aurora came in.

And the Daedalus managed to defeat 1 Hive in that confrontation. Although it was exploiting a weakness, without which the 304 likely would have lost.

The 304 was taking on two hives. the first one was only disabled because the 304 launched it's nukes seconds after coming out of hyperspace the 304 then started losing It's missiles no longer being effective. On it's own it wouldn't have survived.

So without a doubt a 304 is superior to a Wraith cruiser if it can take so much punishment from a Hive!

without beam weapons though a 304 would barely scratch the surface of a cruiser. Even a Ha'tak weapon would push them over to the winning side, but missiles suck in space battles unless you have a lot of them. In Aurora two wraith cruisers come at the Daedulas, but the Daedulas runs away.

As for the Ha'tak, the info given in the series makes one conclude a 304 is superior to a Ha'tak.

The only two battles where a 304 went up against a Ha'tak it either tried to run away, or did no damage. Disproving your entire point. ( COMPANY OF THIEVES and OFF THE GRID). If they could have actually destroyed a Ha'tak why didn't they? especially in a company of thieves. the Ha'tak's targeting systems seemed to be working well enough.

A 304 is fast, and heavily shielded. It had no good offensive weapons(Pre unending 304's only) though. compare the SR-71 to the F-22 raptor. until you arm the SR-71 it can only run away fast when trouble comes.