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January 29th, 2008, 05:06 PM
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Kate tries to get information out of Miles, but first must do something for him. In the future, Kate stands trial for her many pre-crash crimes.

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Morbo
February 21st, 2008, 07:08 PM
so aaron is #5.

not a huge reveal. i think we all kind of saw that coming.

locke is really losing control. but the grenade gag was pretty awesome.

and the blackmail buy-out from miles was so underwhelming. very disappointed there.

next week looks INSANE

mizzoueng
February 21st, 2008, 07:17 PM
Is Arron #5? Kate wasn't pregnant on the plane and I would think that would have been brought up in the court room that she had a child while taking care of everyone.

Its also obvious that the 6 made some deal with Dharma or whoever to cover up the fake plane or whatever they truly are (clone teory).

I thought the information given was good, but for some reason they are in Arizona.

Did anyone else notice that they handcuffs used on Kate at the beginning of the trial were square?

majorsal
February 21st, 2008, 10:08 PM
so aaron is #5.

not a huge reveal. i think we all kind of saw that coming.

i didn't see it coming. in fact, i did 'know' what name kate said at the end, so i came here to find things out. :p

but because i couldn't understand the name kate said, i went by the child's blond hair... sawyer's i was thinking?

i wanted to be totally shocked and have it be jack's. :D


i'm very much looking forward to finding out how those six got off the island, while the others didn't. in previous ep - what did ben say to siad about protecting the others on the island? did i hear that right?




sally :)

memnarch
February 21st, 2008, 11:00 PM
Miles' deal with Ben, while at first very disappointing, is actually quite intriguing. Ben himself revealed the truly interesting thing about Miles' offer: he wants 3.2 million. Not 3.4 or 3.3, 3.2. 23 is one of the all powerful numbers in case anyone's forgotten. Why this number? He's been seen getting money from at least one dead person's secret stash. What does he need the money for? Is he just greedy? Or does he need it for a specific purpose? I also very much enjoyed Locke's grenade breakfast. Miles will definitely have to be on his toes and firm with his bite.

Kate adopting Aaron is no surprise whatsoever though. I had heard rumors that Aaron got off the Island, but as soon as Kate said son, I knew it. Also, the interaction on Island with Claire and Aaron was no coincidence either. Jack's inability to face Aaron after the crash leads me to believe that Claire is dead, unfortunately. I've always felt she's been underused. Still, she might have been forced to stay and asked Kate to take Aaron with her or something.

Side note about the Oceanic Six, don't read unless you like the spoilage:
I'm positive that Aaron is not included among the O6. Sun and Jin also leave the Island, or so spoilers claim.

The freighter-teers practicing psychic card tests was interesting. It leads me to believe they may have a nefarious interest in Desmond (especially given the preview for next week).

Anyway, all in all a pretty good episode: *** stars

mizzoueng
February 22nd, 2008, 07:15 AM
I don't think Aaron counts toward the 6. The feds would know if Kate was that pregnant before she went to Australia or when she was caught. I think they got Aaron and just said she had him after she got back, but that would still raise questions.

Were the guy and the anthro doing psychic test? I thought they were just testing his memory. Maybe they found out that prolonged exposure to the island causes long term memory loss. B/c the Anthro said "okay, thats long enough, now which one are they?" Meaning he saw them before and had to remember what they were.

dosed150
February 22nd, 2008, 08:26 AM
i think clare must have died, she wouldnt be apart from aaron otherwise, and i think jack somehow feels responsible for her death so thats why he wont go and see aaron

The_Carpenter
February 22nd, 2008, 10:01 AM
Wow, so Clare dies interesting.

But question what was Jack on about when he said only 8 people survived the crash? was he lieing? has he been brainwashed? is it really jack? Is it an alternate reality? arrghh so many questions so few answers.

LoneStar1836
February 22nd, 2008, 10:14 AM
But question what was Jack on about when he said only 8 people survived the crash? was he lieing? has he been brainwashed? is it really jack? Is it an alternate reality? arrghh so many questions so few answers.
That's obviously the cover story that was agreed upon for them to get off the island. The outside world needed to believe that the others left on the island were dead for whatever reason that has yet to be revealed.




Episode was pretty good. At least the question about Kate's criminal status has been answered.

I kept thinking it might be Aaron that was going to be revealed as "her" child, but I've always wondered if she got off the island in the first place because she was pregnant. Evidently not.... I kept flip flopping between the two possibilities, and they had me going when Jack had issues with seeing the kid, but evidently he feels guilty about something that must have happened to Clair.

Is it next Thursday yet?

knowles2
February 22nd, 2008, 06:04 PM
I wish it was.

I guesting Clare is one of the other eight who survives the crash but died later on, possibly during labor, It would make the perfect cover story.

I am guesting somone (ben) perhaps is forcing them keep their cover story.

And I do not think syid is one of the offical six either. So think their three more to reveal.

But I did fine miles asking for money.

I got feeling Lock will not survive the season, he gonna be killed by ben, just a feeling I have.

But I thank goodness that they gave us a question and answer to that question in the same episode, that gotta be a first for lost.

I interested in where these flashforwards are gonna leading up to or what their purpose. They so far seem all be unconnected, and I am not sure where they gonna leave us.

Dusk
February 23rd, 2008, 05:49 AM
:eek::eek::eek:

I did NOT see that coming!! All you peeps you browse the spoilers regular like, sure you saw it coming. I've read very little into future episodes and had not even the slightest clue about the big reveal! Loved it!!

Locke is quite the tyrant and a sloppy leader. I can't say I enjoy this evolution of the character. Good to see Kate's mum again for continuity.

One thing, you all probably know, so don't spoil, but this is me asking a question aloud here: Does the fact that Kate has Aaron mean Claire is dead? Jack certainly seemed disturbed about even seeing the child. Hmmmm.

Next week: Desmond and Sayid have a bumpy ride off the island. Excellent.

The_Carpenter
February 23rd, 2008, 06:29 AM
One thing, you all probably know, so don't spoil, but this is me asking a question aloud here: Does the fact that Kate has Aaron mean Claire is dead? Jack certainly seemed disturbed about even seeing the child. Hmmmm.

Next week: Desmond and Sayid have a bumpy ride off the island. Excellent.

I know nothing of upcoming eps either.

But I believe that Claire is dead but that's just speculation on my part, and part of me thinks that is to simple for Lost.

LoneStar1836
February 23rd, 2008, 08:38 AM
Well there have been rumors which I think are confirmed that

one of the original 815 survivors will die. So it's a good possibility that it might be Claire.

I think I read that on TVGuide.com, as I do try to avoid specific spoilers. It usually just gives general spoilers.

Jumper_One
February 24th, 2008, 12:37 PM
wow another great ep. I'm still confused by all the flash forwardsbut I guess eventually they'll make sense. Jack didn't have a beard, does this mean the trial happens before the events of 'Through the Looking Glass Part 2'? Miles' deal with Ben was a little disappointing but memnarch is right, the numbers are important. I pretty much expected that the world didn't forget about Kate's crimes, so no surprise there. I'm curious why her mother's still alive even though the doctor's gave her no more than 6 months to live

I'm also not sure if they were doing a psychic test or if he just tried to remember the cards. in any case it should certainly have something to do with the island. so the boat has no idea where the helicopter is, I guess we'll find out next thursday :D Locke is such a bad-ass, he's awesome! the grenade thing was so him, crazy but with a purpose. poor Hurley, he screwed up once again. oh and nope I didn't know that Kate was talking about Aaron. that was quite a surprise! I assume Claire somehow died and she adopted him. however that still doesn't explain Jack's reaction. maybe he feels responsible for her death? looking forward to the next ep!

Naonak
February 24th, 2008, 02:42 PM
Locke is so cool.

Jumper_One
February 24th, 2008, 03:25 PM
Locke is so cool.

:indeed: :D

dosed150
February 24th, 2008, 04:27 PM
wow another great ep. I'm still confused by all the flash forwardsbut I guess eventually they'll make sense. Jack didn't have a beard, does this mean the trial happens before the events of 'Through the Looking Glass Part 2'?

he could have shaved it off

Jumper_One
February 24th, 2008, 04:45 PM
he could have shaved it off

LOL that's true but I still think this took place before TtLG, he's just too crazy in that ep :P

ItsDan
February 24th, 2008, 04:59 PM
Don't forget there's a strong implication that there's a time variation between the island and the outside world. This could explain a) why Walt is older (in show terms, of course we know why he looks older) and b) Kate could have gotten pregnant and had the kid on the island. I'm not saying she did, I'm just saying for their cover story it would help if the outside world thought they were missing longer than the group experienced on the island. Also consider that we have no idea when they actually get off the island. Sure on the show right now it seems like they could get rescued soon, but we don't know if the boat is even what gets them rescued to lead to the events of the flash forwards.

The cover story seems to be intended to prevent people from looking for move survivors, presumably to protect anyone remaining on the island.

Lt.Col.Errandboy
February 24th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Locke is so cool.

...and Sawyer is so HOT! ;)

TDgamer
February 25th, 2008, 01:36 AM
One thing is bugging me. Jack does not want to see the baby. Is this because:

1. He still believes that the baby is Sawyer's and that would be like a slap in the face?

2. He found out that Claire is his sister and she dies some sort of traumatic death and Jack does not want to be reminded of her.

The_Carpenter
February 25th, 2008, 03:49 AM
One thing is bugging me. Jack does not want to see the baby. Is this because:

1. He still believes that the baby is Sawyer's and that would be like a slap in the face?

2. He found out that Claire is his sister and she dies some sort of traumatic death and Jack does not want to be reminded of her.
Or guilt from being unable to save Claire perhaps, I'm fairly sure that he would know that the kid Kates raising is Claires baby

TDgamer
February 25th, 2008, 04:26 AM
Or guilt from being unable to save Claire perhaps, I'm fairly sure that he would know that the kid Kates raising is Claires baby

There are probably ways in which he would not. But we need to keep in mind that whether he knows it or not, Aaron is Jack's nephew.

ItsDan
February 25th, 2008, 08:11 AM
There's a strong theme of "survivor's guilt" going on in the show right now. Hurley seems to have been the first to be really hit with it, seeing Charlie with his 'they need you' message. The visit from creepy guy asking if "they" are still alive, likely either a reference to the team he sent, or to the other survivors. We know Jack eventually breaks down and wants to go back. Sayid is working to "protect his friends".

I think there's a strong implication that there are people still on the island, and they don't want people to think they're alive, and by extension be looking for them.

LoneStar1836
February 25th, 2008, 12:18 PM
wow another great ep. I'm still confused by all the flash forwardsbut I guess eventually they'll make sense. Jack didn't have a beard, does this mean the trial happens before the events of 'Through the Looking Glass Part 2'? I'm going on the basic assumption with each episode that the flash forwards all take place before the one in Through the Looking Glass with crazy Jack....even the one with Sayid even though we never saw Jack.

This one definitely took place before that one.


I think there's a strong implication that there are people still on the island, and they don't want people to think they're alive, and by extension be looking for them.Most definitely, and I think the flash forwards will eventually become the present and the story will shift back to the island and the survivors left behind with Jack, Hurley, etc. trying to get back to help them.

Amalthea
February 27th, 2008, 03:36 PM
I was somewhere loud when it aired... thought she said "Eric" at the end, and I'm thinking, so what? And how did she and Jack get a blond baby? LOL Aaron makes much more sense.

That said, Claire might not necessarily have to be dead. She could be on the island still, being experimented on or something. Maybe Kate taking the baby has to do with this elaborate story they've concocted about Kate being their saviour in order to keep her out of jail. Something really bad goes down at escape time for sure.

Aussie_86
February 28th, 2008, 01:35 AM
Also, remember the psychic told Claire that "Claire must be the ONLY one to raise the baby" too... I think Claire might have forgotten that - interesting stuff ahead.

The_Carpenter
February 28th, 2008, 09:52 AM
Also, remember the psychic told Claire that "Claire must be the ONLY one to raise the baby" too... I think Claire might have forgotten that - interesting stuff ahead.
I forgot about that as well, its looking more and more likely to me that Claire dies before the escape the island :(

marty2006
February 28th, 2008, 03:03 PM
I wish it was.

I guesting Clare is one of the other eight who survives the crash but died later on, possibly during labor, It would make the perfect cover story.

I am guesting somone (ben) perhaps is forcing them keep their cover story.

And I do not think syid is one of the offical six either. So think their three more to reveal.

But I did fine miles asking for money.

I got feeling Lock will not survive the season, he gonna be killed by ben, just a feeling I have.
But I thank goodness that they gave us a question and answer to that question in the same episode, that gotta be a first for lost.

I interested in where these flashforwards are gonna leading up to or what their purpose. They so far seem all be unconnected, and I am not sure where they gonna leave us.

absolute tripe, locke is the best and most interesting character on the show

Qtyled
March 23rd, 2008, 08:05 AM
I totally didn't expect that ending!

Actually I was expecting the "baby" to be a teenager or fully grown adult due to some kind of time paradox...

Guess I was wrong...