Ancient medical science/nanites could have saved the Asgard (Spoilers)

[Buba uognarf]

It occurred to me while watching 'Millars crossing' that the Asuran nanites could have quite simply solved all the Asgard's problems (simple is relative to other things they've done).

The nanites in the episode were programmed to fix any defect in the host body including genetic problems such as epilepsy. So surely they'd have been able to correct any genetic problems in the Asgard.

All they'd have to do is program the nanites to restore the next clone body to it's former state with no genetic problems and switch brains so to speak. After that using the specimen from 30,000 years ago from 'Revelations' they could program the nanites in stages to redesign the Asgard body to it's former state.

While it may take a while for the latter to be accomplished with the collective Asgard working on the programming I'm sure making the nanites fix the disease wouldn't be so difficult.

Hell the nanites could even make the Asgard an entirely new body. It makes me wonder if the ancients ever thought about using the nanites or did use the nanites in a medical sense.

Ancient medical science could theoretically heal almost any injury or disease bar mutilating injuries.

[g.o.d]

If TPTB wanted to save the Asgard, they could have done a long time ago(nanites, Ancient medical research, robotic bodies, etc.). They didn't, so they decided to kill them by the most stupid and ridiculous way possible.

[thekillman]

the asgard died because they didnt want to survive. all they could think of had been done.they failed, accepted it and got over it. they gave earth all their technology and knowlege to make sure the MW survives, as does their knowledge and tech, and to prevent humans from doing a similar thing.


yes nanites couldve saved them. but their fault is not just in their bodys, but also in their DNA. infact their completely flawed. if you put an asgard on a DNA resequencer they i expect to see thousands of faults in their dna. to undo this, there would be only one desperate move left: take a human, and repair their dna with a human's dna. this would make them similar to their ancestors.


and be real. if you have lived for thousands of years, extending your life ten, perhaps hundredfold through science, and discover that this extension causes the death of your entire race, would you extend your extended life through science again? the asgard were satisfied by what theyve done.

the whole one day we wont be there anymore threat was empty. it was said many times, yet never was there any indication it might happen.

now it happened. why does everyone hate this so much?

[g.o.d]

now it happened. why does everyone hate this so much?

because this was the most idiotic way how to destroy such a great race. They just didn't deserve it

[tainor]

Asgard deserved to live they one of the best race shown and were very well developed. They had so many chances of saving them with the ancient healing device that could bring back the dead. The ninites in SGA and the whole knowledge of the Lanteans in Atlantis and still could now fix their DNA problem its stupid killing such a great race in couple of seconds was a very bad idea. But in Sci-fi no one stays dead for ever. Lets hope thats the case with the Asgard.

[wise one]

what the asgard should of done is kept their original bodies like in storage or each blood dna sample from each asgard that way they could if any problems like mckay had could reverse the problem to its original dna.

its possible the asgard had nanites but found that the nanites couldnt fully repair the body since the fault is in their dna which would take maybe like a few thousand nanites to repair


im thinking the ancients were advanced enough maybe to self heal since anya from the year 50 million years ago was enough to heal others.. but not all ancients was advanced hence the dna machine reqencher thing.

the nanites were only made to kill wraith but they got advanced and you noe the story so they decided to wipe out everything in the database and asurans themselves so the need for nanites in medical science went out the window

[Mister Oragahn]

If TPTB wanted to save the Asgard, they could have done a long time ago(nanites, Ancient medical research, robotic bodies, etc.). They didn't, so they decided to kill them by the most stupid and ridiculous way possible.

Seconded.

That said, when you'll try to convinced an Asgard to accept nanites developped from some sort of replicators when their whole civilization got nearly wiped out by similar machines, I can understand why they might be a tad reluctant to do so.

That said, in reality, it would have been a very great exit for the Asgards if they actually came at peace with the replicators and actually merged, to create some sort of cyborgs.

A bit like I fanfictionned here, about how the Replicators evolved after the massive revolution after Dakara.

The Asgards would have been reigning supreme, and that way, both of the most powerful species in SGlore would have not been destroyed by absurd plot hacks.

[Master_Templar]

Have you heard of the theory on technological singularity. Where all of humanity becomes a huge immortal machine which floats around for all eternity. We eventually get bored and decide it'd be clever to kill ourselves, as that is something we have never done before.

The Asgard were VERY old and they were condemned to live as little decrepit aliens, maybe they felt it better to end it all now whilst doing something honourable.

As another point, I've always thought it was something in their heads that was destroying their bodies, as they transfer their minds, so it MUST be something in their brain ordering themselves to destroy their bodies. Just a thought.

[DetriusXii]

To be honest, they should have forced a Go'uld to repair the defects in the Asgard cloned body and study the physiological changes so they could have found a solution to their problem. I realize it was stated that the Asgard cannot be taken as hosts, but we don't know if it was a genetic manipulation that prevented this from taking place. It would make more sense if Ra had taken an Asgard host, that then the Asgard then took precautions against further such infection.

I agree though, killing off the Asgard was a stupid idea. Stargate has lost the tapestry of aliens that made it great. Now it's humans and things that came from humans. I seriously hope they retcon everything past season 5 and with no ascended beings either. Making Ancients ancient humans rather than some alien being killed the show has degraded the SG universe.

[MartianManhunter]

^So what would happen to Daniel, he just died?

[Heaven]

the healing nanites thing has to be the dumbest pseudo science they've ever come up with
how do you suppose the nanites know what's wrong with you? not to mention how to "fix" it, especially if it's a genetic defect they're dealing with

[from_orion]

The asgard should have put themselves in a time dilation bubble until we found a way to help them.

[gummyworms]

The asgard should have put themselves in a time dilation bubble until we found a way to help them.

remember that the ancients did just that when they had the plague problem. They ultimately failed too.

[Ouroboros]

You could also probably have "saved" them with data gathered from the cloning machine the Wraith developed 10,000 years ago. Hell you might even be able to do it with data gathered from how Wraith drones are "grown", since it's been 10,000 years, they still all look alike, and they don't seem to "degrade".

For all that the Asgard have given them they could have at least had Todd look at their problem one of those times they had him. It could have been something ridiculously easy for their cloning method to correct.

I'm pretty sure that was after they'd all committed their retarded mass suicide though, so in the end even if Todd would have been able to say "you need to carry the 1" it would have been too late.

[tinerin]

You could also probably have "saved" them with data gathered from the cloning machine the Wraith developed 10,000 years ago. Hell you might even be able to do it with data gathered from how Wraith drones are "grown", since it's been 10,000 years, they still all look alike, and they don't seem to "degrade".

Well there's no degradation with the Wraith because only the drones are clones and from what I understand, the Queen releases genetic material that would normally create a drone and that material is cloned to create a large number of drones...there's no genetic degradation because it's cloning the original genetic material produced by the Queen...the Asgard cloning process would be analagous to the Wraith taking genetic material from the drones and then cloning that to create more drones...

For all that the Asgard have given them they could have at least had Todd look at their problem one of those times they had him. It could have been something ridiculously easy for their cloning method to correct.

Well, if the Wraith cloning process works as I stated above, their cloning method would probably be even more primitive than what the Asgard use. Also, every time Todd has helped us out, it has been in a way that directly benefits him...I don't possibly see how Todd helping the Asgard could possibly benefit him in a way that we would allow to happen...