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    Aschen vs Tollan vs Hebridan

    As far as I can tell these three races seem to be very near each other in technology. I'm not saying who would win in a war (even though I'm sure it will come up by someone) but comparing the technology of each of them who is more advanced in terms of technology


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    1) Tollan
    2) Hebridan
    3) Aschen
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      Aschen (Seems like they would attack first, or very sneakily)
      Tollan (Technology seems very limited)
      Hebridian (Not particularly impressive, i believe they got their asses handed to them by the Ori though)
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        Originally posted by 2ndgenerationalteran View Post
        Aschen (Seems like they would attack first, or very sneakily)
        Tollan (Technology seems very limited)
        Hebridian (Not particularly impressive, i believe they got their asses handed to them by the Ori though)
        Who hasn't gotten their asses handed to them by the Ori?
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          Nice thread fugi, green.

          Now, what kind of tech are we talking about? These are mostly assumptions, but...

          Propulsion tech:
          1.) Hebridian
          2.) Tollan
          3.) Aschen (primitive)

          Weapons:
          1 & 2.) Aschen/Tollan
          3.) Hebridian

          Computing:
          1.) Aschen
          2.) Tollan
          3.) Hebridian

          Agricultural:
          1.) Tollan
          2.) Aschen
          3.) Hebridian

          Medical/Biological:
          1.) Tollan
          2.) Aschen
          3.) Hebridian

          I know this is somewhat off topic, but I wish that Earth would recover some Ion Cannons, because they'd be beautiful for fighting the Wraith.
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            In a war, well a war wouldn't happen. Assuming all of the races are around, the Tollan rebuilt another homeworld; the Hebridians were liberated by the SGC crew using the Odyssey; and the Aschen survived the Black Hole, I am having trouble thinking of a way for them to have a war...
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              Originally posted by Ripple in Space View Post
              In a war, well a war wouldn't happen. Assuming all of the races are around, the Tollan rebuilt another homeworld; the Hebridians were liberated by the SGC crew using the Odyssey; and the Aschen survived the Black Hole, I am having trouble thinking of a way for them to have a war...
              Pre-destruction how about

              Lets say before the Black Hole, Anubis, and the Ori shall we
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                Originally posted by Ripple in Space View Post
                Nice thread fugi, green.

                Agricultural:
                1.) Tollan
                2.) Aschen
                3.) Hebridian
                I disagree I think the Aschen have better Agricltural technology then that of the Tollan but very good list
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                  Originally posted by fugiman View Post
                  I disagree I think the Aschen have better Agricltural technology then that of the Tollan but very good list
                  Well it's an assumption. My reasoning is, the Aschen went through the efforts to overtake planets & develop large-scale machinery to farm. The Tollan don't seem to even bother themselves with farming, I was assuming that they are fully automated.

                  The Aschen needed several planets worth of farming land, and slaves to farm them, where the Tollan only have a single planet, and don't seem to even worry about food.
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                    Originally posted by Ripple in Space View Post
                    Well it's an assumption. My reasoning is, the Aschen went through the efforts to overtake planets & develop large-scale machinery to farm. The Tollan don't seem to even bother themselves with farming, I was assuming that they are fully automated.
                    Well I guess I prefer slave labor over machine laber
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                      But why don't any of these races seem to have good hyperspace drives? I mean if we could make one why couldn't they?
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                        Haven't come by one?

                        It is also tactical position. Space-wise from what we have seen, is that the Herbidians actually do have a capable space-fleet, whilst the Tollan are a totally defensive race and the Ashen prefer to attack via subterfuge.

                        It would be interesting to see however who could outsmart who.
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                          Originally posted by Master_Templar View Post
                          Haven't come by one?

                          It is also tactical position. Space-wise from what we have seen, is that the Herbidians actually do have a capable space-fleet, whilst the Tollan are a totally defensive race and the Ashen prefer to attack via subterfuge.

                          It would be interesting to see however who could outsmart who.
                          It would be intresting to see who could out smart who

                          Of course the Aschen are at a huge disadvantage because the other two races don't need there anti-aging pill so they would have to actually use tactics to win
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                            Originally posted by Master_Templar View Post
                            Haven't come by one?

                            It is also tactical position. Space-wise from what we have seen, is that the Herbidians actually do have a capable space-fleet, whilst the Tollan are a totally defensive race and the Ashen prefer to attack via subterfuge.

                            It would be interesting to see however who could outsmart who.
                            The Aschen somehow outmatched the Goa'uld, so they have some form of traditional military.

                            As for the hyperdrives... Well from the major races we've seen using them, it's possible that the Ancients were the only race to ever invent them, let's examine:

                            1.) Ori - the Alteran scientists designed them before the schism.
                            2.) Goa'uld - all of their tech is stolen; stole & poorly replicated Ancient hyperdrives
                            3.) Asgard - didn't have hyperdrive tech until recently, used to use stasis. They were conventionally taught by the Ancients, and then they started decoding the Ancient repository of knowledge. COuld've gotten the schematics from them.
                            4.) Wraith - stole every thing from the Lanteans, down to their language and even their genes. Poorly replicated Ancient tech.
                            5.) MW replicators - from Asgard from Ancients.
                            6.) Jaffa - from Goa'uld from Ancients.
                            7.) Asurans - from Lanteans, all their tech is Lantean.
                            8.) Travelers - scavenged Lantean tech.
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                              I believe the Serrakin would come out the eventual winner of any war. Mostly because they seem to have a developed sense of space travel, and the Tollan/Aschen seem to have little in the way of ship propulsion.

                              They also have a capitalist society, which would be more flexible to address a threat as well as more able to wage war, wealth always being a major factor (see U.S. vs USSR).

                              The Tollans are tactically inept, moreso than the Ancients. The belief that a defensive network of Ion Cannons was infallible reminds on of the Maginot Line employed by the French in WWII- like the Goa'uld, the Germans used their aircraft to render the defenses impotent. At this point the Tollans had no backup plan, and I beleive they are totally ill-equipped to handle Murphy's Law and war's personifcation of it.

                              The Aschen, like the Goa'uld, use slave labor. This presents a problem as protracted war runs the risk of an uprising. Should this occur, Aschen society will crumble.

                              I beleive the Serrakin/Hebridans have both the greatest assets and the fewest weaknesses, and see fit to expect them as winners.

                              Between the Tollan and the Aschen, I will give more points to the Aschen because their greatest skill (trickery) is also the Tollans largest vulnerability.

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