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GateMan2000
October 24th, 2007, 08:28 PM
This is the thread for those who us who would not like to see Weir, Carson or Ford return in Season 5!

Discuss away!!!

P-90_177
October 24th, 2007, 09:31 PM
Ford i would actually like to see again at some point. it would be nice to catch up on.

However, depending on how the season goes, i currently see no need to get carson and weir back.

Arturis
October 24th, 2007, 11:53 PM
Hopefully they will tie up Weir's story in the mid season 2 parter, Carson will be making an appearance toward the end of season 4, and I see no reason that these characters, including Ford, can't pop up again from time to time. Not that I have anything against any of them, but I believe the story needs to move forward without them. I like Carter in charge and I hope she stays around for a while. I also like Keller and I believe her character has a lot of potential.

Jedi_Master_Bra'tac
October 25th, 2007, 02:29 AM
This is for people who, like me, would like to see Ronon fall under several buses by Season 5! Discuss!

He seems to only exist to be angry, impatient, stupid and to kill wraith.

AutumnDream
October 25th, 2007, 03:11 AM
Because the other characters have so much more depth.

Skydiver
October 25th, 2007, 04:29 AM
Ok, this multiple thread stuff has gotten beyond out of hand. THis thread is for who you DON'T want in s5, with the exception of Carter and Keller. Those two characters have thier own thread since they tend to be the most unwanted. Discuss to your hearts content anyone and everyone you'd like written out...EXCEPT FOR CARTER AND KELLER here

Reefgirl
October 25th, 2007, 04:37 AM
I'd like to see Sheppard, McKay and Teyla gone, Teyla would get a reprieve if she got a decent character overhaul

kirmit
October 25th, 2007, 04:41 AM
I don't want weir, always disliked her, I don't want Teyla because really she's done nothing since day one and I definately do not want Lucius :P.

AGateFan
October 25th, 2007, 05:05 AM
Another vote for no Lucius.

prion
October 25th, 2007, 05:12 AM
I want everybody back in season except for, well, the senior one mentioned in the title.

Who I don't want in season 5?

Anybody from SG1, except maybe one guest shot from Daniel. I don't want to see SGA become the dumping ground for SG1 characters. Dr. Lee, Walter, etc. should stay back at the SGC. If they keep putting SG1 people on SGA, then who's left minding the store back on earth. Let the SG1 characters stick with the movies.

KatG
October 25th, 2007, 05:39 AM
I want to keep it like it is. I liked Weir, I liked Carson, but I'm really, really liking the feel of Season 4. I like Carter in charge, and while I wasn't sure about Keller at first, I really do like her, a lot in fact. So here's hoping that Season 5 brings back Shepperd, Teyla, Rodney, Ronan, Keller and Carter.

Arturis
October 25th, 2007, 05:57 AM
Yes... no Lucius... unless it's to see him die a horrible death as Wraith food... THAT and only that would be worth seeing him again.

AGateFan
October 25th, 2007, 06:04 AM
Yes... no Lucius... unless it's to see him die a horrible death as Wraith food... THAT and only that would be worth seeing him again.
As long as the death is pathetic and not heroic and we are double triple sure he is actually dead, not just sci-fi dead so he can make a triumphant return later. Then MAYBE that would be worth seeing....although I rather they just create a time device, go back in time and erase him from my memory altogether.

joebags
October 25th, 2007, 06:16 AM
No more SG1 characters, even as guest stars!

Don't like Teyla either so it doesn't matter if she goes away.

pisces27
October 25th, 2007, 06:55 AM
I want everybody back in season except for, well, the senior one mentioned in the title.

Who I don't want in season 5?

Anybody from SG1, except maybe one guest shot from Daniel. I don't want to see SGA become the dumping ground for SG1 characters. Dr. Lee, Walter, etc. should stay back at the SGC. If they keep putting SG1 people on SGA, then who's left minding the store back on earth. Let the SG1 characters stick with the movies.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

FireCat
October 25th, 2007, 07:29 AM
Keep SG1 out of SGA! Its bad enough we got, who we got.

Falcon Horus
October 25th, 2007, 08:13 AM
Keep SG1 out of SGA! Its bad enough we got, who we got.

I second that.

Jumper_One
October 25th, 2007, 08:29 AM
Keep SG1 out of SGA! Its bad enough we got, who we got.

I have no problem with Carter coming over but anyone else (e.g. Daniel) would be too much imo

Briangate78
October 25th, 2007, 08:33 AM
From Sci-fi, The Horse's Mouth...

"Atlantis truly came out from under the shadow of its sister series this year and proved that it's a hit in its own right. With this season's exciting new characters and vibrant storylines, Atlantis also shows every sign of matching its sibling's longevity."

Enough said. :p

Carter and Keller are ok to keep! :)

FoolishPleasure
October 25th, 2007, 08:45 AM
From Sci-fi, The Horse's Mouth...

"Atlantis truly came out from under the shadow of its sister series this year and proved that it's a hit in its own right. With this season's exciting new characters and vibrant storylines, Atlantis also shows every sign of matching its sibling's longevity."

Enough said. :p

Mark Stern wants to keep his job and will say anything to the press to make his channel look better than it is. Remember, he is the one running around calling Trash Gordon, Skiffy's latest big HIT!

Briangate78
October 25th, 2007, 09:16 AM
Mark Stern wants to keep his job and will say anything to the press to make his channel look better than it is. Remember, he is the one running around calling Trash Gordon, Skiffy's latest big HIT!

Since the show lost half it's viewers from the premiere to the 2nd episode, I don't think you will see Flash Gordon in any postive press releases, lol.

ToasterOnFire
October 25th, 2007, 12:06 PM
I don't want to see:

-Lucius, even if just to kill him off, even if it's just a passing mention of him, even if he's somehow incorporated into the "evolved" 100th ep as a joke. No. Never again. :mckay:

-Any SG-1 member besides Carter who is in more than 2 eps. And no, that doesn't mean I'm okay with every SG-1 member having 2 eps each. ;) This show is "Stargate: Atlantis", not "Stargate: second home for all those poor SG1 characters".

Briangate78
October 25th, 2007, 12:19 PM
I don't want to see:

-Lucius, even if just to kill him off, even if it's just a passing mention of him, even if he's somehow incorporated into the "evolved" 100th ep as a joke. No. Never again. :mckay:

-Any SG-1 member besides Carter who is in more than 2 eps. And no, that doesn't mean I'm okay with every SG-1 member having 2 eps each. ;) This show is "Stargate: Atlantis", not "Stargate: second home for all those poor SG1 characters".

I agree, I felt that when SG-1 ended there was a chance one member would go over to Atlantis for a regular role. But no more after that. SGA is it's own show and now with a 5th season it can really shine!

As per Lucius, yeah keep him off the show. :p

Mitchell82
October 25th, 2007, 01:02 PM
I want it to stay as is however I don't mind if Carson comes back for a few eps as long as *the other doctor I can't mention in here* still stays. I don't really want Weir back it will be too confusing not to mention uncomfortable for Carter. Don't mind a few guest apearences for a few old friends so like I said leave as is.

Blower'sGate
October 25th, 2007, 01:49 PM
I want it to stay as is however I don't mind if Carson comes back for a few eps as long as *the other doctor I can't mention in here* still stays. I don't really want Weir back it will be too confusing not to mention uncomfortable for Carter. Don't mind a few guest apearences for a few old friends so like I said leave as is.

Why would it be uncomfortable for Carter? I don't really see why. I get that Weir isn't one of your favourite character. I like Sam Carter and I seriously don't think having Dr. Weir back for a few episodes would be bad. Sam is the leader now, having Weir back certainly won't change that. She's been through too many things to be allowed to be put in charge again, so don't worry, Carter's pretty safe and will remain in command.

I don't see how it can be confusing either; as to have the old leader - I don't know, possibly turned bad as she's now some sort of replicator ( bc we don't really know if she's been reprogramed or not yet ) back in Atlantis, likely in quarantine/jail... whatever. Story-wise we don't know what the writers may come up with. As long as the story's good and plausible, it's likely Weir can come back to Atlantis without bothering Carter, on the contrary I believe this could bring some nice character interactions and development ( if Weir isn't dead by the end of s4 but then again it's SciFi, tptb can do whatever they want ). But again, that's just my opinion. :)

Character I don't want to see on Atlantis in s5 : Lucius.

Platschu
October 25th, 2007, 02:00 PM
My votes:
1. Lucius - Brrr. He wasn't funny, rather annoying. I would like to laugh with my heroes and not on their discomfort or unhappiness. :S
2. Ellis - He has a terrible accent and it seems they created the whole "Apollo" ship and his character, because Mitch Pilleggi (Caldwell) wasn't available for First Strike.
3. Kolya - He died, so every option for returning would be strained after Beckett's similar fate. :)

prion
October 25th, 2007, 02:53 PM
Yes... no Lucius... unless it's to see him die a horrible death as Wraith food... THAT and only that would be worth seeing him again.


Mark Stern wants to keep his job and will say anything to the press to make his channel look better than it is. Remember, he is the one running around calling Trash Gordon, Skiffy's latest big HIT!

TPTB at Skiffy put the spin on much of what they say, believe me.

Excuse me? Lucius die a horrible death by Wraith? Heck, I don't want that. I just want to hear the SPLAT on the gate's iris when he tries to get through, In other words, don't want to see him at all ;)

Kanetsidohi
October 26th, 2007, 09:06 AM
I like almost everybody but:

1. No Lucius! <yuck>

2. No more SG1!!! Ok. Fine. Jack would be good (and I looove General Hammond). :cool:

AutumnDream
October 26th, 2007, 10:00 AM
From Sci-fi, The Horse's Mouth...

"Atlantis truly came out from under the shadow of its sister series this year and proved that it's a hit in its own right. With this season's exciting new characters and vibrant storylines, Atlantis also shows every sign of matching its sibling's longevity."


Yes, I can see how SG-1 characters, plots, and bad guys went a long way to distinguish Atlantis as both a unique and viable series.

GateMan2000
October 26th, 2007, 11:01 AM
I agree with a few people here. Keep away Lucius and keep everyone else as they are. The show is getting a ton better this season than the past seasons. Perhaps adding in the new characters are moving the show to the next level.

Reefgirl
October 26th, 2007, 02:22 PM
Slightly off topic here but I'd like to thank Atlantis1 for the redding me for saying I'd like Sheppard gone from series five. Did you read the thread title dear?

Lord batchi ball
October 26th, 2007, 02:29 PM
Ronan, I would rather have someone like Ford or anther marine.

NX-04
October 27th, 2007, 01:36 PM
Lucius! Whoever thought him up as a character and then to rub salt in the wound, brought him back for another episode!!!!! Why! Why do it! Crap character!

Mitchell82
October 28th, 2007, 10:11 AM
Why would it be uncomfortable for Carter? I don't really see why. I get that Weir isn't one of your favourite character. I like Sam Carter and I seriously don't think having Dr. Weir back for a few episodes would be bad. Sam is the leader now, having Weir back certainly won't change that. She's been through too many things to be allowed to be put in charge again, so don't worry, Carter's pretty safe and will remain in command.
She's not my fav no but I don't mind if she comes on as long as it makes sense. I guess she could come back as a civilian leader and Carter can take Military command. I see your point and I guess it wouldn't be uncomfortable.


Character I don't want to see on Atlantis in s5 : Lucius.
I actually liked the character but I still agree.

Mitchell82
October 28th, 2007, 10:12 AM
Slightly off topic here but I'd like to thank Atlantis1 for the redding me for saying I'd like Sheppard gone from series five. Did you read the thread title dear?

I might disagree with your POV but that's rediculous to red you for that.

Mitchell82
October 28th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Ronan, I would rather have someone like Ford or anther marine.

Hmm sorry I disagree. I'll take Ronon over Ford anyday though I'd still like to see Ford come back.

Chailyn
October 28th, 2007, 10:20 AM
I really don't want to see Lucius again. Hope the book is closed on that one. Besides Lucius, I'd like them to cut down on all the "villagers of the week" that we saw so much in S1-3. Would also prefer that additional SG1 characters be kept to a minimum. Our SGA guys need the character development, imo.

JennyJ
October 28th, 2007, 10:24 AM
Actually, I'd love to have Carson back, and Sam could stay..... But no more SG1... (Probably Cameron for a crossover.... With Shep....) That's all.

only4amoment
October 28th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Lucius was the most ridiculous character the Atlantis writers came up with. He does nothing besides manipulate (villagers on other worlds) or annoy (the people from Atlantis--and me) people. I really hope they're done with him.

Mitchell82
October 28th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Lucius was the most ridiculous character the Atlantis writers came up with. He does nothing besides manipulate (villagers on other worlds) or annoy (the people from Atlantis--and me) people. I really hope they're done with him.

The only reason I don't want him back is because of the massive fan onsluaght that hates him. Personally I really liked those eps.

Reefgirl
October 28th, 2007, 03:11 PM
I might disagree with your POV but that's rediculous to red you for that.
Thanks, I just cannot stand the character, there's something about his whole persona that makes me want to smack him one, but that's just me, personally I can't see a problem with bringing in Carter to replace Weir (Yep, I can see my reputation turning as red and a Ferrari now :lol:)

dec55
October 28th, 2007, 07:05 PM
This is for people who, like me, would like to see Ronon fall under several buses by Season 5! Discuss!

He seems to only exist to be angry, impatient, stupid and to kill wraith.

Ronan stays....his character is young,intellegent,quiet and brooding...with burst of humor in between. The guy has a physical presence with his height, and has the best insight of all the characters in the Wraith warfare thinking that is unmatched. Plus he makes the perfect foil for Sheppard....and to a point Carter.

The character is just cool.

stclare
October 29th, 2007, 10:23 AM
As already mentioned I wouldnt want to see Lucius and I have to say id rather not see more HAB'S :cool:
I would rather the writters concentrated on the people they have on Atlantis now, without adding any more.

MIZA
October 29th, 2007, 11:24 AM
i don't want the Genii or the travelers or the the govt' involved as much

BerrySciFi
October 29th, 2007, 11:41 AM
I'd like to see a short scene where Lucius is being drained of his life-force by a Wraith. Shep is behind the Wraith, with a gun. The Wraith notices Shep and the gun and says "You want me to stop?" And Shep says "Hell no. I'm here to make sure you finish the job. After you're done, I'll let you go. And I owe you one." That would be sweet.

Jumper_One
October 29th, 2007, 01:54 PM
I'd like to see a short scene where Lucius is being drained of his life-force by a Wraith. Shep is behind the Wraith, with a gun. The Wraith notices Shep and the gun and says "You want me to stop?" And Shep says "Hell no. I'm here to make sure you finish the job. After you're done, I'll let you go. And I owe you one." That would be sweet.

that's a great idea ;)

Mitchell82
October 29th, 2007, 05:31 PM
Thanks, I just cannot stand the character, there's something about his whole persona that makes me want to smack him one, but that's just me, personally I can't see a problem with bringing in Carter to replace Weir (Yep, I can see my reputation turning as red and a Ferrari now :lol:)

:lol: Mine does that everytime I say a small negative thing about Weir and supporting Carter well.........;)

Mitchell82
October 29th, 2007, 05:32 PM
I'd like to see a short scene where Lucius is being drained of his life-force by a Wraith. Shep is behind the Wraith, with a gun. The Wraith notices Shep and the gun and says "You want me to stop?" And Shep says "Hell no. I'm here to make sure you finish the job. After you're done, I'll let you go. And I owe you one." That would be sweet.

But way OOC and they would never do that.

WingedPegasus
October 29th, 2007, 05:59 PM
This is the thread for those who us who would not like to see Weir, Carson or Ford return in Season 5!

Discuss away!!!

I'm kind of ambivalent on these characters.

Ford we're never gonna see again, mainly because he blew up on the hive ship, and Joseph Mallozzi so bluntly stated recently.

Weir, meh, sometimes she was ok and sometimes she REALLY got on my nerves. "No, we need to negociate with the angry natives who want to kill us!" :rolleyes:

Carson I was OK with, he's bound to be run by his emotions because he's a doctor. Not the best trait to have though, especially when you're at war. He found out though, if a little late. (BOOM!)

Basically, if the people they were replaced with turn out to be better than them, I'm all for it. Stay away, please. But if their replacements turn out to be even worse, I wouldn't mind having them back.

To me, Ronon is better than Ford. Score one.

To me, Carter is better than Weir because she's not run by emotions and the overpowering need to negociate. Score two. (Sometimes a nuke does say it all, y'know. :p)

Keller I'm a little more worried about. She doesn't seem to be any less run by her emotions than Beckett, which could be a problem. All in all though, 2 out of 3 ain't so bad. :)

Willow'sCat
October 30th, 2007, 12:37 AM
Slightly off topic here but I'd like to thank Atlantis1 for the redding me for saying I'd like Sheppard gone from series five. Did you read the thread title dear?
Aw, I would green you but I have to spread that love.:S How do I do that?! :P

I am not quite there with the no Sheppard thing but it is getting bad when I am actually more impressed by him in fanfics then by him on the show...:cool:

I actually would rather no McKay :eek: but then David would be unemployed and I certainly do not want that. ;)

But McKay is becoming a worthless character now, dam it! :(:( Plus as long as David is playing him I am watching this show... help me!

In the end it comes back to Weir.

Always comes back to Weir. ;)

No Weir in season 5.

g.o.d
October 30th, 2007, 12:48 AM
after seeing first five episodes of S4, I really don't want to have another season. No interesting stories, no interesting characters (why is Teyla still there? her character is completly useless), all-knowing characters (Sheppard repairing hyperdrive :-D ), no main quest, no line. I doubt S4/S5 can be better than excellent S1. TPTB should focus only on SGU and bury this ruined show once and for all

WingedPegasus
October 30th, 2007, 11:05 AM
after seeing first five episodes of S4, I really don't want to have another season. No interesting stories, no interesting characters (why is Teyla still there? her character is completly useless), all-knowing characters (Sheppard repairing hyperdrive :-D ), no main quest, no line. I doubt S4/S5 can be better than excellent S1. TPTB should focus only on SGU and bury this ruined show once and for all

Shouldn't this be in one of the anti- threads?