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    Radio Waves Duplexing Through the Gate?

    I'm not sure whether this has been answered anywhere, but I'll go on:

    It hadn't occurred to me until now, but they repeatedly state on SG-1 that gate travel is unidirectional, but if that is so, why do radio waves appear to be able to travel back and forth, allowing communication through the gate.

    Depending on the answer, it seems clear that the gates are able to transmit data in both directions, at the same time. If that is so, wouldn't they be able to send people/objects through the gate at the same time too? Theoretically, anyway, I suppose they might have to make some changes to the gate network, but in either case, why would they then state consistently that gate travel in two directions at the same is impossible (since the radio waves appear to be able to do just that...).

    In addition, if only waves are able to do this, then why does light not seem to go through, seeing as light behaves as both waves & particles.

    //Sorry if I got anything wrong in there....
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    the gates create a wormhole but only a very small hole that is only able to carry either extreemly small objects or radio waves

    the gate is basecly just a ring transporter limted to on way transportation but it doens't use a matter stream to transmit the transport data but the wormhole

    hope it makes a bit of sence

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      #3
      i think it was something the ancients probably built into the gate system to make communications easier. it would certinly make sense.
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        #4
        They've been able to communicate two way through the gate since the movie, how else would they have communicated with the Malp? They also repeatedly state that radiation is the only thing that can go two ways through the gate.
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          #5
          raido waves are a form of energy. The ancients only programed teh gate to send objects one way

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            #6
            The gate creates a wormhole, but the gate itself is what transmits matter, and thus is only designed to transmit matter one way. Radio, radiation, and gravitational effects do not require matter, so there is no limit on which way that all goes.

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              my belief is that the wormhole itself is 2 way, but the gate actually dissassembles and reassembles solid objects independently of the actual wormhole. but it is made to be only one way for some reason
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                #8
                That is likely, Avatar. The reason perhaps... is because the storage crystals can only hold so much information, so that as a built in safety, it only stores one way?

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                  or

                  They don't want bad guys to be able to come in (or send in a bomb) while they have to have the Iris open.

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                    Think of the mess if someone walked in one side just as someone was coming out! It'd end up like if you beamed someone inside someone else.

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                      #11
                      I imagine that the wormhole it's self is two way but due to power rquirements the actual wormhole is tiny, what the gate does is dissasemble matter like the rings then sends it through the wormhole then re assembles the matter on the other side, this conversion process is one way only which is why the gates only allow travel one way but allow electromagnetic waves both directions

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                        #12
                        Some are stating that the rings are like the gate, but we have seen (cannot quote right noe though) that the rings do allow simulatneous transfer to and from the opposite platforms.

                        Ah I remember an episode, where Apophis was trading something with someone, the other system lord sent Teal'c by rings to Apophis and Ap sent something at the same time. You could see the matter stream connecting the two ships, perhaps the rings work slightly different than the gate.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mizzoueng View Post
                          Some are stating that the rings are like the gate, but we have seen (cannot quote right noe though) that the rings do allow simulatneous transfer to and from the opposite platforms.

                          Ah I remember an episode, where Apophis was trading something with someone, the other system lord sent Teal'c by rings to Apophis and Ap sent something at the same time. You could see the matter stream connecting the two ships, perhaps the rings work slightly different than the gate.
                          ah but the rings send matter through real-space, gates send it through subspace
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by AvatarIII View Post
                            my belief is that the wormhole itself is 2 way, but the gate actually dissassembles and reassembles solid objects independently of the actual wormhole. but it is made to be only one way for some reason
                            It's possible you are right. While the show itself has shown (as we've seen stuff destroyed when it went the wrong way through) that matter only travels one way, it could be possible that the stargate itself could be programmed to allow a two way transport. A stargate stores data in it's crystals then transmits it. If the DHD offworld could be activated to store data and transmit it despite being opened from offworld, then who knows.

                            However from a safety standard it would be a bad idea which could explain why matter only goes one way. The wormhole isn't a like a tunnel, who knows what could happen if two patterns going in opposite directions interacted, plus you've also got the security issue of someone being able to invade from offworld because of you're open wormhole. So it makes sense to make the stargate create one way wormholes or at least have the offworld DHD programmed not to store and transmit data if something went through the gate at the arrival point.

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                              Originally posted by SaberBlade View Post
                              It's possible you are right. While the show itself has shown (as we've seen stuff destroyed when it went the wrong way through) that matter only travels one way, it could be possible that the stargate itself could be programmed to allow a two way transport. A stargate stores data in it's crystals then transmits it. If the DHD offworld could be activated to store data and transmit it despite being opened from offworld, then who knows.

                              However from a safety standard it would be a bad idea which could explain why matter only goes one way. The wormhole isn't a like a tunnel, who knows what could happen if two patterns going in opposite directions interacted, plus you've also got the security issue of someone being able to invade from offworld because of you're open wormhole. So it makes sense to make the stargate create one way wormholes or at least have the offworld DHD programmed not to store and transmit data if something went through the gate at the arrival point.
                              exactly my point!!

                              i doubt the memory crystals are big enough to store, or DHD's smart enough to know how to disassemble/reassemble matter coming and going from both directions
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