Odyssey with Asgard tech, most powerful ship ever

[Entreri]

Odyssey: Shield strength increased 6 fold! Weapon power increased an immeasurable amount. Hyper drive: Hard to say, but at least as fast as Ori ships.

Ori ships: Impervious to all weapons before. Built with the knowledge of Ascended Ori. So Ori ships are at least as powerful as Aurora class, most likely more powerful.

Odyssey is close to being as powerful as 2 Ori ships.

[2ndgenerationalteran]

You have nothing to back up your claim on how powerful an ori ship is.

[StevenCaldwell]

I would say that the odyssey is a hugely powerfull ship, with the asgard power core, hyperdrive, shields, beaming tech and energy weapon.

Yeah we have seen it in battle against Ori motherships, and it was impressive, just imagine what it could do against wraith hive ships with no shields!!

[Entreri]

You have nothing to back up your claim on how powerful an ori ship is.

Ori ships took massive fire from Hatak ships (Season 10, episode 1), and took apparently no damage. O'Neill class ship did not damage to the Ori ship either. There wasn't even a hint of any damage done to the Ori ships.

Ori ship destroyed Hatak ship with only one shot and instantly.

Only time we seen that is Annubis ship, and its weapon took a bit of time too (implying weaker weapon). Of course Annubis main weapon (none dispersed) is more powerful (2-3?), but cannot be directed at ships, only stationary target (i.e. planet like shown in that episode).

Ori ships were invincible until the latest Asgard tech upgraded Odyssey.


Aurora class ship (season 3, episode 1 of Atlantis), took massive damage from a Hive Ship. It is very unlikely that a Hive ships weapons are more powerful than O'Neill class Asgard ship.

Odyssey > Ori ship > Aurora class > Hive Ship > Hatak

Annubis (with Eye of Ra) super ship probably around a Ori ship. Its shields are much weaker, and its weapons need time to charge, but once deployed very powerful.

[Wraith_Boy]

Odyssey: Shield strength increased 6 fold! Weapon power increased an immeasurable amount. Hyper drive: Hard to say, but at least as fast as Ori ships.

Ori ships: Impervious to all weapons before. Built with the knowledge of Ascended Ori. So Ori ships are at least as powerful as Aurora class, most likely more powerful.

Odyssey is close to being as powerful as 2 Ori ships.

The shield, hyperdrive aren't any faster because of the Asgard upgrades. They are only boosted because of the ZPM!

Again, there is nothing regarding the weapons. The conventional weapons (rail guns & nukes) won't be any more powerful because of the Asgard tech, or the ZPM. The only thing that may be boosted would be the energy weapons output.

For all we know the Asgard spercifically designed their weapons to bypass the Ori ships shield. Therefore if they used it against the Asurans or another race with a shield, it may not do anything.

Also we've never seen a fully fledged Aurora class ship in battle. Hence it's impossible to compare it to an Ori ship. Put it this way, they didn't fare too well against Hive ships. For all we know an Ori ship could eat it for breakfast. Unless an Ancient ship goes up against an Ori ship in 'Aor of Truth', then there really can't be any conclusions drawn on them meeting in combat. We know virtually nothing about either one.

I would say that the odyssey is a hugely powerfull ship, with the asgard power core, hyperdrive, shields, beaming tech and energy weapon.

Yeah we have seen it in battle against Ori motherships, and it was impressive, just imagine what it could do against wraith hive ships with no shields!!

In 'Unending', the only thing reffered to with the word 'core' in it is in relation to the new 'computer core' that they installed. This computer has it's own power source, but there is nothing about it being able to power anything other than the computer & it's functions. Right at the end, they state they need to reroute the power cables from all over the ship into the 'computer core', which has built in time-dilation technology. If this new power source was powering systems on the ship previously, then they would't have been needing to divert conducits all over the ship into it in order to harness enough energy from the Ori weapons impact.

It had the hyperdrive, beaming tech & shields before. It's the ZPM that boosts the 1st two. The beaming tech can't be enhanced upon in that it's only major flaw is that it can't go through a shielded target.

The only major upgrades we've seen is the computer core that will undoubtedly be more efficient than the human computer. The built in time-dilation technology. The matter replicators. The energy weapons & the knowledgebase with the Asgard holograms.

They may have the knowledge in their system but we know they aren't gonna get it all straight away. If they did, then they could create the satellite disruptor & wipe out the Asurans in a single swoop.

Also the Asgard are puny little guys that can't lift any heavy objects or whatever. Yet they were able to create huge, huge ships. Presumably this is in thanks to the matter replicators. So now they have them, they should be able to create new ships much more quicker. Yet JM has said new ships are a long way off. So we obviously won't be seeing that either!

[Entreri]

The shield, hyperdrive aren't any faster because of the Asgard upgrades. They are only boosted because of the ZPM!

Again, there is nothing regarding the weapons. The conventional weapons (rail guns & nukes) won't be any more powerful because of the Asgard tech, or the ZPM. The only thing that may be boosted would be the energy weapons output.

For all we know the Asgard spercifically designed their weapons to bypass the Ori ships shield. Therefore if they used it against the Asurans or another race with a shield, it may not do anything.

Also we've never seen a fully fledged Aurora class ship in battle. Hence it's impossible to compare it to an Ori ship. Put it this way, they didn't fare too well against Hive ships. For all we know an Ori ship could eat it for breakfast. Unless an Ancient ship goes up against an Ori ship in 'Aor of Truth', then there really can't be any conclusions drawn on them meeting in combat. We know virtually nothing about either one.



In 'Unending', the only thing reffered to with the word 'core' in it is in relation to the new 'computer core' that they installed. This computer has it's own power source, but there is nothing about it being able to power anything other than the computer & it's functions. Right at the end, they state they need to reroute the power cables from all over the ship into the 'computer core', which has built in time-dilation technology. If this new power source was powering systems on the ship previously, then they would't have been needing to divert conducits all over the ship into it in order to harness enough energy from the Ori weapons impact.

It had the hyperdrive, beaming tech & shields before. It's the ZPM that boosts the 1st two. The beaming tech can't be enhanced upon in that it's only major flaw is that it can't go through a shielded target.

The only major upgrades we've seen is the computer core that will undoubtedly be more efficient than the human computer. The built in time-dilation technology. The matter replicators. The energy weapons & the knowledgebase with the Asgard holograms.

They may have the knowledge in their system but we know they aren't gonna get it all straight away. If they did, then they could create the satellite disruptor & wipe out the Asurans in a single swoop.

Also the Asgard are puny little guys that can't lift any heavy objects or whatever. Yet they were able to create huge, huge ships. Presumably this is in thanks to the matter replicators. So now they have them, they should be able to create new ships much more quicker. Yet JM has said new ships are a long way off. So we obviously won't be seeing that either!

Asgard have the biggest brain, they are literally all brain. Physically puny yes, but the smartest.


Asgard upgraded their shields, it said so in the episode. And you can do calculations to see the 6 fold increase in shield strength (Korvolov lost 50% shields and was crippled by 1 hit from Ori weapon).

Odyssey has lasers, cut through anything. Wait till season 4 for your confirmation. Odyssey lasers will eat through Aurora class shields easily or any shields for that matter, 1 shot will destroy Hatak ship.

[StevenCaldwell]

Aurora class ship (season 3, episode 1 of Atlantis), took massive damage from a Hive Ship. It is very unlikely that a Hive ships weapons are more powerful than O'Neill class Asgard ship.

yeah but dont forget in the episode " No mans land " ( the one your talking about ) the Orion wasent even fully operational. The shields wernt even half charged and they couldn't fire the drones with the shield up. We havent seen a fully opeational Aurora class ancient war ship in action yet. The Aurora was damaged, The Orion was Damaged and the Ancient ship in " The return " was damaged aswell.

But i think a fully operational Aurora class war ship could give any enermy ship a run for its money!!

[IcyNeko]

Asgard upgraded their shields, it said so in the episode. And you can do calculations to see the 6 fold increase in shield strength (Korvolov lost 50% shields and was crippled by 1 hit from Ori weapon).

That's WITH THE ZPM tied into the main shield system. ZPMs allow the 304's to take far more punishment than without. This was stated in wraith_boy's reply.

Yeah, I doubt the Asgard installed the Neutrino cores into the Odyssey. Those engine cores are huge and require a major refit to get them in. Not that the Tau'ri can't design one after they learn the math of it... and with the Asgard computer core, that'll be within the realm of possibilities.

BUt seriously, keep your fansplooge under control. Asgard upgrades mainly came in weapons technology. The shields that the 304's have now were perfectly designed FOR the 304. Adding the new asgard shields, unless designed FOR the 304, would unbalance the energy distribution.

[s09119]

That's WITH THE ZPM tied into the main shield system. ZPMs allow the 304's to take far more punishment than without. This was stated in wraith_boy's reply.

Yeah, I doubt the Asgard installed the Neutrino cores into the Odyssey. Those engine cores are huge and require a major refit to get them in. Not that the Tau'ri can't design one after they learn the math of it... and with the Asgard computer core, that'll be within the realm of possibilities.

BUt seriously, keep your fansplooge under control. Asgard upgrades mainly came in weapons technology. The shields that the 304's have now were perfectly designed FOR the 304. Adding the new asgard shields, unless designed FOR the 304, would unbalance the energy distribution.

He's right. They never actually said they upgraded the shields, and the only physical evidence we have of ANYTHING being upgraded is the weapons and power systems (Asgard power core tied in). Using what we know, it looks likethe ZPM is what's giving the Odyssey such powerful shielding.

[Raj_2006]

Odyssey: Shield strength increased 6 fold! Weapon power increased an immeasurable amount. Hyper drive: Hard to say, but at least as fast as Ori ships.

Ori ships: Impervious to all weapons before. Built with the knowledge of Ascended Ori. So Ori ships are at least as powerful as Aurora class, most likely more powerful.

Odyssey is close to being as powerful as 2 Ori ships.

There is already a main thread for this. Use the search function like everyone else please.

[Londo Molari]

I think Ancient WARSHIPS would be more powerful than the Odyssey. We have never seen an ancient warship. It has been mentioned only. I don't think the Aurora class were the Ancient's main warships, they were referred to as a light escort in the "Aurora" episode, if I remember correctly.

Damn.. that first officer chick was so HOT... too bad she was a wraith You know what... I still wouldn't have cared.

Aurora class ship (season 3, episode 1 of Atlantis), took massive damage from a Hive Ship. It is very unlikely that a Hive ships weapons are more powerful than O'Neill class Asgard ship.

Odyssey > Ori ship > Aurora class > Hive Ship > Hatak

you forget that the Aurora's shields weren't working. When they work, I imagine its almost as powerful as an Ori ship.

[randy23]

Why I don't understand is this implied notion that, the ZPM was the primary reason for why the hyperdrive, weapons, and other integral systems on the Odyssey were "boosted", giving no credit at all to the actual Asguard designs. The ZPM is a substitute for the Neutrino cores. NOTHING MORE. Ask yourselves, why would the Asguard build shields and weapons if they could not power them to its full potential? What would be the point?

[Ehecatl]

[QUOTE=Entreri;6847985]Ori ships took massive fire from Hatak ships (Season 10, episode 1), and took apparently no damage. O'Neill class ship did not damage to the Ori ship either. There wasn't even a hint of any damage done to the Ori ships.

Ori ship destroyed Hatak ship with only one shot and instantly.

The new Asgard weapons differ from their pulse weapons because they fire a more concentrated beam like that of an Ori ship or the Ancient satellite thats why the beam weapons are so much more devastating.

The pulse plasma weapons of the Asgard and the plasma bolts of the Ha'taks did do minor damage, but not enough. Beams make the shields fluctuate therefore creating weak spots where the ship can be damaged. Pulse weapons are affective still it just takes more of them to do serious damage.

[Ehecatl]

Ori ships took massive fire from Hatak ships (Season 10, episode 1), and took apparently no damage. O'Neill class ship did not damage to the Ori ship either. There wasn't even a hint of any damage done to the Ori ships.

Ori ship destroyed Hatak ship with only one shot and instantly.

The new Asgard weapons differ from their pulse weapons because they fire a more concentrated beam like that of an Ori ship or the Ancient satellite thats why the beam weapons are so much more devastating.

The pulse plasma weapons of the Asgard and the plasma bolts of the Ha'taks did do minor damage, but not enough. Beams make the shields fluctuate therefore creating weak spots where the ship can be damaged. Pulse weapons are affective still it just takes more of them to do serious damage.

[!!??]

Why I don't understand is this implied notion that, the ZPM was the primary reason for why the hyperdrive, weapons, and other integral systems on the Odyssey were "boosted", giving no credit at all to the actual Asguard designs. The ZPM is a substitute for the Neutrino cores. NOTHING MORE. Ask yourselves, why would the Asguard build shields and weapons if they could not power them to its full potential? What would be the point?

They are too big to use as a power source on our ships. I think the asgard have 4 of them in their motherships. I would be surprised if they could fit one in an earth ship. Maybe in the future we would use them in larger ships,or somehow make them smaller without hindering their energy output.