Recharge powersouce (possible spoiler)

[JoNzA]

What if you would a take Zpm and put it into a time destoriton field
would the Zpm last longer? would you be able to turn back time in just that field when the Zpm are almost depleated if so would it recharge the Zpm?

[Gregorius]

You probably can't even use it due to the difference in time frames.

[JoNzA]

But it would be effective if it would work

[Coremae]

What if you would a take Zpm and put it into a time destoriton field
would the Zpm last longer? would you be able to turn back time in just that field when the Zpm are almost depleated if so would it recharge the Zpm?

Zero point energy, may be lost in a time distortion field. Now if the time distortion field has its own zero point energy singularity, then the zpm may last indefinitely. I need the help of people who actually understand how this stuff works.

[Wraith_Boy]

No it wouldn't work! By default ZPM's can't be re-charged. If you tried to put it in a time-dilation field, then whatever it would be used to power would need to be placed inside it as well.

If you are talking about what they did in 'Unending', then again it still wouldn't work. Simply because when they reversed time, it would do just that. It would put time back to the exact same way it was before. Meaning they would have no memory of it, they would have the ZPM again, but they'd just use it the exact same way as before. Essentially if they continued down that road, they'd be looping all the time.

If you think of putting the ZPM in a little area after it's been depleted, then throw a time-dilation field around it, then reversing it. You could only go back to just before you engaged the time dilation field. Meaning the ZPM would still be depleted. If you go back further, then you'll be looping time again, meaning they'll do & experience everything the exact same way all over again as they did before!

Simply put, the ZPM will be drained before you put it in the time-dilation field. So it's virtually impossible to recharge it that way.

The only way they could effectively use a time-dilation field would be for creating ZPM's in the 1st place. I don't think they can just be magically created in an instant. They are probably constructed over the course of months/years, where they slowly are able to harvest enough zero point energy. If they could be quickly created, then Atlantis would never have been submerged under the ocean, nor would it have been abandoned. Simply due to the fact that they could instantly create more power. Therefore they had all the time in the world to find a new alternative to the way they fought the Wraith. If the Atlantis team could figure out how to make ZPM's, then they could do that in a small off-world location. Throw a time-dilation field around it, then months/years would pass inside, while only seconds would pass on the outside. So in effect, they could create ZPM's instantly. Although we know that's never gonna happen because if they had power like that, they'd be pretty much unstoppable.

Time-dilation fields used for creating ZPM's - yes. Time-dilation fields used for re-charging ZPM's - No!

[IcyNeko]

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Why is this thread made in the first place? It shows the same thinking logic as a 2 year old would exhibit. Seriously. What the hell.

A time dilation field will slow time down, hence anything contained in the field, to the outside world, would interfact vastly different than in normal space time. In your example, time fields would slow down energy movement.

Time for a little 411 on how energy works.

Power = Work / Time.

Electrical energy involves the MOVEMENT of electrons down a conduit of least resistance. The more movement, the more energy. Power is the amount of movement of electrons over a certain time frame.

By slowing down time, you slow down electron motion. This means that, to the outside world, the ZPM would be providing power at a less voltage (slower electron movement = less energy), but that we're also using MORE power. Because running the dilation field drains power too, probably more so than just running the ZPM in normal space time.

Another thing is that, since the ZPM is variable in the amount of power it gives out (seems to only dispense as much as it needs - hence why it lasts longer in certain instances, and shorter in other). If the same machines are hooked up to the ZPM and drawing power, to the ZPM in the time dilation field, it would register as needing MORE power, which means it would increase work over time in order to compensate. This, in turn, depletes the ZPM faster.

So in the end, there's a finite amount of energy available in a ZPM. You can only draw SO MUCH energy. Time manipulation isn't going to magically give you MORE energy.

Ah, but the idiotic question of "What if we reversed time on the ZPM to recharge it". You can only reverse time within the time field (this was shown in Unending). THis means that, when you reverse time, the entire universe reverses WITH it, since the frame of reference is IN the time sphere. To the user in the time sphere, the ZPM would refill to the point of when the time field was being used, but it would STILL be in the process of being drained by the object outside the time field, because the entire universe would have rewound with the time reversal. To the outside user, NOTHING WOULD HAVE CHANGED. You wouldn't have even noticed the time reversed. That's why the Ori cruiser didn't notice the Odyssey reverse time.

ZPM holds finite energy. You can't recreate more through time manipulation. Even if you made the entire universe take the same crazy pills you took, this fact would remain constant.