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ibwolf
September 13th, 2004, 08:11 AM
I figure that what with lasers and vanishing cars Bond qualifies as SF.

According to friday's "WENN" news on imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/) Dougray Scott has been cast as the next Bond. The article follows:


Dougray Scott To Play Bond?
British actor Dougray Scott has reportedly beaten off competition from actors, Eric Bana, Ioan Gruffud and Clive Owen to replace Pierce Brosnan as James Bond. The To Kill A King hunk, 38, clinched the role after discussions with Bond producer Barbara Broccoli and will be the seventh actor to appear as the sexy British agent. He will make his first appearance in the 23rd Bond movie after Eon Productions decided they wanted to return to a more brooding Bond in the mould of fellow Scot Sean Connery, reports British newspaper the Sunday Mirror. A movie insider says, "Producers have been eager to take Bond back to the broody and sexy figure that Sean was so brilliant at. Obviously it's not possible for Sean to return at his age, so they have been looking for a younger actor with similar characteristics. Since then Barbara and Dougray have been in talks - and she believes he will be the perfect new 007 for the 21st Century." Brosnan announced two months ago that he would not be starring as Bond again, saying, "That's it. I've said all I've got to say on the world of James Bond."

A good picture of the would be 007 can be found here:
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0120755/Ss/0120755/19?path=pgallery&path_key=Scott,%20Dougray

So many actor's have been named in the quest for the next Bond that I tend to be very sceptical each time another one is named. This one does have a few things going for him. Most importantly he is not especially famous. I've always been certain that they would not hire anyone that had already "made it" in Hollywood. Signing such actors as Hugh Jackman or Eric Bana to multi picture deals is nigh on impossible.

He also seems to look right for the part. Browsing trough his filmography (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0779084/) I realized that I've seen a few things that he's been in, but clearly he hasn't made much of an impression.


The good part in that report though is that the producers want to take Bond back to his roots and away from the 'explosion fest of the week' syndrome.

Xenan
September 13th, 2004, 10:42 AM
I don't know, there is only one JB: Sean Connery :D

Matt G
September 13th, 2004, 11:16 AM
Hmm. The guy who played Ambrose in MI:2. Workable. Having said that, for me Brosnan WAS Bond. If a certain 13 year old hadn't walked out of a cinema after watching Goldeneye with his best mate thinking 'That was wicked' then for me the Bond series would have just faded into cinema history and I'd have never really become a big fan of the Bond series. OK, I'd seen a few Bond films before that cinema visit back in '95 but I doubt I'd have made that much time for the series otherwise.

Good luck to Dougray Scott if he gets the part, but it will be very wierd to not see Brosnan as Bond on the big screen again.

David85
September 13th, 2004, 12:30 PM
The said that he would be Bond in the 23rd movie, but the last one was the 20th so who is going to play Bond in 21 and 22?

Ioan Gruffudd is much cuter by the way. :)

gramaton_cleric
September 13th, 2004, 12:42 PM
I don't know, there is only one JB: Sean Connery :D
No-one has or ever will play him beter!!!!!!!!!!!!

LordAnubis
September 13th, 2004, 01:51 PM
The said that he would be Bond in the 23rd movie, but the last one was the 20th so who is going to play Bond in 21 and 22?

Ioan Gruffudd is much cuter by the way. :)
I wanna be the new Bond. Heh.

David85
September 13th, 2004, 04:31 PM
I wanna be the new Bond. Heh.



Are you british?

Wyrminarrd
September 13th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Not sure if the guy has what it takes for the role, but then again going with a relative unknown for the role is a smart thing to do.

My first choice at the moment would be Eric Bana, he´s got everything it takes to make a good bond.

LordAnubis
September 13th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Are you british?
German and Swedish.

ibwolf
September 14th, 2004, 03:13 AM
The said that he would be Bond in the 23rd movie, but the last one was the 20th so who is going to play Bond in 21 and 22?
Aside from the 20 "official" Bond movies there have also been made two other Bond movies. Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again. I don't count either as "Bond" but that article clearly does.

Edit: Also Sean Connory is Bond. The others may have played Bond but only Connory was Bond.

Larry
September 14th, 2004, 08:20 AM
I spose they'll keep making these "Bond" flics as long as they continue to make money. To me, though, this series jumped a whole school of sharks long, long ago.

Madeleine
September 14th, 2004, 01:22 PM
I liked every Brosnan Bond until the one with the invisible car happened. I can remember the entire plots of Goldeneye, TND and TWiNE, but I can remember nothing about the most recent one except that Pierce had a not very dishy beard for a bit and there was a stupid invisible car. And Halle Berry and some ice. Still, that's (for me) only one bad ones to three good in recent years. I'd like to see Brosanan as Bond once more.

DownFallAngel
September 14th, 2004, 01:31 PM
All of the recent ones had to do with a massive laser, and nothing else.

I hate the recent ones.

The old school ones are so much better in my opinion.

Larry
September 14th, 2004, 01:35 PM
I guess when it comes to Bond, I'm a Sean Connery person. I haven't enjoyed a Bond film since "Never Say Never Again". I couldn't stand Roger Moore's Bond. Wasn't interested in Timothy Daulton, and I will say that Brosnan was better, but I still didn't care for his version of Bond when it comes right down to it.

Indiana
September 15th, 2004, 03:36 PM
I've always been a Connery fan and was a firm beleiver that Adrian Paul would have played the part well, but we'll never get to see him in the James Bond mantel. He has the same strong physical characteristics that made Sean populr (they're called good looks), he has great physical ability so there's no question you would not believe he is trained to kill and handle him well in situations such fighting and bedroom antics :D


No-one has or ever will play him beter!!!!!!!!!!!!

As was once uttered in Bond Song I believe, "Nobody does it better"

aeromathlete
September 15th, 2004, 04:04 PM
My favorite was Pierce Brosnan (except I hated Die Another Day). Though I do respect Sean Connery for starting the whole thing. The other Bonds are "meh." But I was a Pierce gal.

Somehow, I can't picture MI-2 guy as Bond. His characters always seem a little...insane...in the projects I've seen him in. He was pretty nuts in MI-2. He was pretty nuts in some TV version of Arabian Nights. I dunno...I'd just half expect Bond to break down into a state of neurosis...

Matt G
September 16th, 2004, 08:35 AM
Am I the only Gateworlder that thought DAD was class?

Crazedwraith
September 16th, 2004, 08:40 AM
Am I the only Gateworlder that thought DAD was class?
DAD wouldn't have been bad as another mindless sci-fi popcorn flick, but it wasn't Bond. Power armour and invisble cars are to unrealistic even for Bond, (with the obvious exception of Moonraker)

ibwolf
September 16th, 2004, 08:56 AM
Die Another Day was not all bad. As a 'mindless popcorn romp' it actually worked very well. It also had numerous cool scenes. It was also gutsy to have 007 get caught once and not be able to escape on his own.

But, yes, the story then became a bit too much. They should have come up with something a bit more realistic. Still I thought DAD was better then Tomorrow Never Dies. Goldeneye is Brosnan's best outing as 007.

trinity1013
September 16th, 2004, 09:31 AM
I grew up with Roger Moore, still I like Timothy Dalton best, I think (don't ask me why, can't really explain it, my mom's all like "only Sean Connery is Bond!" too). Haven't watched a single Bond movie since Brosnan took over, just can't stand this guy.

I've never heard of the new one and didn't notice him in "Deep Impact", which is the only one of his filmography I saw, I think, but I'm curious how he'll do. Sure gonna give him a try.

I'm gonna ask here because I keep hearing it: Do you think the Bond-concept in itself is outdated nowadays? I'm especially thinking of all this stuff feminists hate (although I heard Brosnan got his butt kicked in one of the more recent movies). Still, is it getting old or do you just have to change a bit and then can never get enough of it?

Bast
September 17th, 2004, 12:22 AM
Pierce Brosman Goldeneye was his hit and only gem thats distinguished,The rest was average and so/so.

To me a good story is Sean Connery coming back as the elder senior James Bond and the new Young Blood James Bond jr comes in and cracks some heads.It might explain continuity a little bit atleast partially but surely it would give a good story.Another option for somthing fresh is make a James bond prequeil thats goes back to the cold war in the 80's.

ibwolf
September 17th, 2004, 02:11 AM
I grew up with Roger Moore, still I like Timothy Dalton best, I think (don't ask me why, can't really explain it, my mom's all like "only Sean Connery is Bond!" too). Haven't watched a single Bond movie since Brosnan took over, just can't stand this guy.
Yeah, I grew up to Moore's Bond. But it wasn't until I started watching the older Connory movies that I became a fan. Moore's version of 007 is just a little to glib for my tastes and I stuck with the part for way to long. For Your Eyes Only should have been his last movie.

I like Brosnan for many of the same reasons I liked Connory. A dry wit instead of the 'banter' that Moore brought to it. With a hard edge underneath. Dalton also did the 'hard edge' stuff well but without the humor.

So my Bond favs are in order:
Connory
Brosnan
Dalton
Moore
Lazenby




I've never heard of the new one and didn't notice him in "Deep Impact", which is the only one of his filmography I saw, I think, but I'm curious how he'll do. Sure gonna give him a try.
Same here. I've also seen MI:2 but it's been too long. Maybe I'll rewatch it if this get confirmed.

But I'll give any 'official' Bond a try. I am however aware that this will be the first Bond cast by someone other the Cubby Broccoli. That makes me just a little nervous about the whole thing...




I'm gonna ask here because I keep hearing it: Do you think the Bond-concept in itself is outdated nowadays? I'm especially thinking of all this stuff feminists hate (although I heard Brosnan got his butt kicked in one of the more recent movies). Still, is it getting old or do you just have to change a bit and then can never get enough of it?
I think it has adapted to the times. Let's face facts, most action movies end with the hero 'getting the girl', Bond is no different. I think the only thing that they have to be careful of in this context is to not overdo it. Bond is the hero, period. If they are going to write in strong women they should be on the other team (so to speak). Usually when Bond has been given a female ally (like in DAD) that was supposed to be his equal it has turned out badly.

michelleb
September 17th, 2004, 03:07 AM
as a feminist, i've never hated bond. why? cos half the time, the people kickign his butt are women. (look at the two girls in diamonds are forever). the women he sleeps with aren't after marriage, but just want exactly the same thing he does..a bit of fun, and that's a very liberated attitude. the woman in bond films tend to be tough, liberated, intelligent and as capable of deviousness as the next man. so yeah, they're feminist movies!

Matt G
September 17th, 2004, 10:37 AM
Pierce Brosman Goldeneye was his hit and only gem thats distinguished,The rest was average and so/so.

To me a good story is Sean Connery coming back as the elder senior James Bond and the new Young Blood James Bond jr comes in and cracks some heads.It might explain continuity a little bit atleast partially but surely it would give a good story.Another option for somthing fresh is make a James bond prequeil thats goes back to the cold war in the 80's.

If they were going to to do something like that that they'd have done it with the 50 year old Moore passing the baton to the much younger Dalton in the late 80s.

Right now I'm settling for the theory that sometime between '85 and '87 MI6 set up a fountain of youth for their top agent and it's near dead cert going to get re-used now.

As for the pre-quel idea. After Moore left the scene in the 80s the idea for a 50s set prequel was bounced around(so I heard during the time I hung in the Bond online fandom). At least one 90s critic bounced off the idea of setting the films 'to period'(i.e during the Cold War) but there's only a limited shelf life for that idea IMO.

Bottom line - I think they should leave things as they are.

ibwolf
September 20th, 2004, 02:31 AM
Bottom line - I think they should leave things as they are.
Agreed. Altough I love the idea of Tarantino doing Casino Royale as a period piece. But that's not going to happen.

ibwolf
September 20th, 2004, 07:27 AM
Looks as if the story was nothing more then another rumor. IMDB.com had this story on Friday:


Scott's Mother Slams Bond Rumors
Scottish actor Dougray Scott's mother has slammed reports her son is to play the next James Bond. The To Kill A King hunk, 38, was rumored to have beaten King Arthur star Clive Owen and Hulk actor Eric Bana to replace Pierce Brosnan in the 23rd Bond movie, after discussions with producer Barbara Broccoli. But Scott's mother, Elma Scott, says, "My other son David contacted him about the latest reports and he said it's not true. He has other commitments, so there is certainly nothing to say at the moment." Scott has just announced plans to do a film titled The Cone Gatherer, scheduled for release next year, in which he plays an objector to the Second World War who is sent to work on a country estate in Scotland.

Wyrminarrd
September 20th, 2004, 08:00 AM
That´s good, I´m still hoping that Bana will take the part. Or course if there is to be a Hulk 2 I´d rather see him do that :D

Indiana
September 20th, 2004, 09:05 AM
Quite weird because Dougray Scott as much as I didnt want him to be Bond was probably a better choice over the other axtors who were tipped to play Bond. Personally I gotta go with Adrian paul for the next Bond! I've been saying it for ages and so have a lot of people out there. He's been the one consistent favourite to play Bond since before Brosnan took over. obviously Brosnan was the favourite to taske it, but Paul was the next favourite. Many years later and he's still a favourite.

ibwolf
September 20th, 2004, 09:10 AM
Adrian Paul is only 6 years younger then Brosnan. I feel that they should go with some younger then that, ideally around 35, so that he can last for at least 4-5 movies. Paul would at most be able to make 2.

I'm also sceptical that he's the right choice in general, but let's not get into that.

Indiana
September 20th, 2004, 09:42 AM
Did Brosnan give up because he got too old or because he had enough? Adrian Paul is one of these actors who looks younger than what he is. he's got the right looks to play Bond. I'm pretty sure he could pump out a Bond every two years and make 4 of these puppies before he was 55. He's only what? 40 something? And he's in good shape also.

ibwolf
September 21st, 2004, 02:57 AM
Adrian Paul is 45 (1959). He'd be 46 before they could possibly get him in front of a camera for the next Bond movie. He might have two movies in him, but I doubt it would be much more.

Brosnan left partly because he felt he was getting too old for the role and partly because he was unhappy with the direction the franchise was taking (bigger and bigger 'boom' factor). While I believe that he could still have done one more, especially if it was a more story driven movie, I applaud his courage in saying 'enough is enough.' If only Roger Moore had done the same we would have been spared the two 'geriatric' Bond movies that finished off his run. Of course it's worth remembering that Moore said he didn't want to do any more Bond movies prior to doing both Octopussy and A View to a Kill. Both times the producers lured him back with more money. Maybe they'll do the same to Brosnan.

trinity1013
September 22nd, 2004, 10:10 AM
as a feminist, i've never hated bond. why? cos half the time, the people kickign his butt are women. (look at the two girls in diamonds are forever). the women he sleeps with aren't after marriage, but just want exactly the same thing he does..a bit of fun, and that's a very liberated attitude. the woman in bond films tend to be tough, liberated, intelligent and as capable of deviousness as the next man. so yeah, they're feminist movies!
I don't know if my memory tricks me there, but I always saw most of the Bond girls as simply that: eye candy, girls who are not really tough but rather hide behind Bond in dangerous situations. I'm probably biased because I saw "The Man with the Golden Gun" recently... Miss Goodnight activating the solar power-whatever with her butt, nearly killing Bond and then not finding the button to de-activate it... hiding under a blanket while Bond fights the dwarf... :rolleyes: intelligent and tough, yeah, sure :p

ibwolf
September 30th, 2004, 02:57 AM
Update. It may be that Pierce Brosnan will in fact do another Bond movie. IMDB.com's WENN Movie/TV news had the following story yesterday:


Pierce Brosnan: "I Haven't Said No to Bond"

Reports that Pierce Brosnan won't return as superspy James Bond are premature - the movie star insists he's still interested in playing 007 again. Brosnan insists rumors of his retirement as Bond came about when a reporter misunderstood the actor's insistence that he no longer wanted to talk about the character in an interview. He says, "There was no announcement. I think the reporter heard it wrong. I think what I said was, 'I've had my fill of talking about Bond.' It was not an official announcement."

I personally think he has one more movie in him. Hopefully they'll tone it down a bit and do 'From Russia With Love' style movie.

Wyrminarrd
September 30th, 2004, 11:14 AM
If he was really doing another movie I´d think it would already be a done deal and the movie would be going ahead.

At this time point I´m afraid we are just going to have to hope that who ever they pick will be able to handle the role well.

ibwolf
October 1st, 2004, 01:59 AM
More news. Yesterdays IMDB.com Studiobriefing (http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/#film1) had the following:


Bond Put on Hold Until 2006

Although much was made about Sony's acquisition of the James Bond franchise as part of its recent purchase of MGM, the studio confirmed Wednesday that it would not be able to deliver a new 007 movie on Nov. 18, 2005 as planned. MGM blamed the delay on its inability to find a director. It did not mention the fact that Pierce Brosnan has previously indicated that he is likely to walk away from the role. (Brosnan on Wednesday denied that he had said no to another sally as Bond; other reports have suggested that he has not been asked.) The script for the 21st Bond film has already been compleed by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, who also wrote Die Another Day and The World Is Not Enough. It is said to rely more on character and intrigue than on special effects.

This looks to be official so no new Bond for another two years. This will give the producers another year to find a replacement for Brosnan. Clearly delaying the movie reduces the chance of him coming back.

trinity1013
October 7th, 2004, 04:53 AM
Hopefully they'll tone it down a bit and do 'From Russia With Love' style movie.
That your favorite?

What's everyone's fav Bond movie?

Mine would be "The Living Daylights", I guess.

Matt G
October 7th, 2004, 02:12 PM
For me it's between Live And Let Die, License to KIll and Die another Day. Can't choose between the three.

Bast
October 7th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Adrian Paul would do great , He is skilled in Martial arts and did Highlander ,Tracker, A Highlander Movie ect.. He has great personality and some good abilities ,experience,good actor.

Sean Connery is old and is still doing action movies like Entrapment and LXG,I think they should give Connery a role in the next movie like being Bond Senior and the new guy is Bond Jr a father and son type of movie, explains some continuity like how Bond has been around for 50 years but never aged.

I hope they do somthing different , There is so much spy spoofs out there and clones that they really need to blow us away more then just "Big Bang boom".They can start with better less rediculous characters and plots, but still some humour.I want to see more low tech Macgyver style tricks enough these hightech brainless gadgets *except those xray sun glasses that lets you see through peoples clothes*.

ibwolf
October 8th, 2004, 02:11 AM
That your favorite?

What's everyone's fav Bond movie?

No, my favorite is Goldfinger, followed by License to Kill, then From Russia With Love.

ibwolf
October 14th, 2004, 02:36 AM
It looks like it's official. Brosnan will not play Bond in the next installment of the 007 franchise.

IMDB.com's Studiobriefing had this yesterday:


Brosnan Says Bond Producers Aren't Interested in Him Anymore

Pierce Brosnan's days as James Bond are over. Appearing to end speculation about whether he will return to the role, Brosnan has told the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet: "I had a contract for four Bond films. ... I did them and told them that I'd like to continue. But suddenly, in the middle of negotiations, they changed their minds. They said that they weren't interested any more. I was shocked, perplexed. I loved Bond. He's given me so much, mostly a face out in the international market. Afterwards, I was happy. Now it feels like a relief."

I am a little surprised that the producers just wrote him off like that. Most likely he was asking for more money then they were willing to pay. They may also have been unhappy with his, supposedly misquoted, interview where he said he did not want to do another Bond movie. Those kind of 'negotiate in the media' tricks have a way of backfiring.

So it looks as if we can look forward to at least several more months of speculations as to who will be the next Bond. Stay tuned for more :)

ibwolf
February 28th, 2005, 12:57 AM
Time for an update on this topic.

The producers have said that a new Bond movie will be going ahead in 2006. It seems that it will be Casino Royale after all, but without Tarantino involved.

Today's WENN news at http://imdb.com now reports that Nip/Tuck star Julian McMahon (who'll also be playing Dr. Doom in this summers FF movie) is one of two 'finalists' for the gig. Who the otherfinalist is is not known, but WENN speculates that it is Clive Owen.

For my $.02, I think McMahon would probably be pretty good as Bond. I haven't watched Nip/Tuck, but I've seen him in a few things, and he certainly has the Bond 'look.' As for his acting abilities, well, he kept me watching Charmed for probably about one more season then I would otherwise have... a really strong performance (for someone on Charmed anyway). nothing like Bond maybe, but still promising.

Ultimately I'm just happy that they are leaning towards getting a relatively unknown actor for the role.

I'm not really familiar with Clive Owen, so I can't comment on him much.

trinity1013
February 28th, 2005, 01:56 AM
For my $.02, I think McMahon would probably be pretty good as Bond. I haven't watched Nip/Tuck, but I've seen him in a few things, and he certainly has the Bond 'look.' As for his acting abilities, well, he kept me watching Charmed for probably about one more season then I would otherwise have... a really strong performance (for someone on Charmed anyway). nothing like Bond maybe, but still promising.
(...) I'm not really familiar with Clive Owen, so I can't comment on him much.I'm also partial to McMahon, I liked him on "Charmed" but he's better on "Nip/Tuck". Don't know Clive Owen either, despite the fact that he's done some movies you could/should know (according to his filmography - "Gosford Park", "King Arthur", "The Bourne Identity", "Closer"). Which is a lot more movie experience than McMahon has, I guess.

Matt G
February 28th, 2005, 04:02 PM
First I've heard anything about McMahon. I've avoided Nip Tuck like the plague and haven't caught much of Charmed!

Hyperspace
February 28th, 2005, 04:43 PM
No way McMahon for me, I think he doesn't have that British sensibility, plus he's too much of a baddie and troublemaker on TV series...

Clive Owen would be a far better choice. Dramatic chops, intensity, and roguish charm. Too bad last night at the Academy Awards, he denied even talking to the producers about James Bond.

Ancient 1
March 2nd, 2005, 02:19 PM
While I think McMahon is an interesting choice, I'm not sure if I'm ready to hear his fake British accent. Maybe if chosen, he will surprise me.

Arctic Goddess
September 10th, 2006, 03:38 PM
I'm resurecting this thread because it's about James Bond, and I'd like to suggest Cliff Simon for the role after this new guy tanks - which I'm sure he will.

And, I think it's a good thing for Stargate fans to help one of the stargate family get a role he would really like. I've heard the arguments, he's not British, he's not well enough known, and he's only been seen as a bad guy. Well:

1. Not all actors playing Bond were British.

2. Not being a big name, he won't cost MGM a huge wad of cash to cast him, meaning more money in their pockets.

3. Cliff has played other roles. He was on a S.Africa soap opera for a number of years, and that character was very similar to the James Bond persona.

So, out of respect for a truly talented actor, I think that we should be encouraging MGM to cast him.

Opinions?

Sam fisher
September 10th, 2006, 05:46 PM
I'm resurecting this thread because it's about James Bond, and I'd like to suggest Cliff Simon for the role after this new guy tanks - which I'm sure he will.


Let's do a friendly wagar. I'll give you green every day for a month if the new guy tanks. If he does well, you give me green every day for a month. You want to go for it?

Arctic Goddess
September 10th, 2006, 10:30 PM
Sure. It's a bet.

But how about writing a letter to MGM to encourage them to hire Cliff. If the new guy doesn't tank, then Cliff won't be in. If he does, we can help Ba'al become the next Bond.

Mr. Harry E. Sloan, Chairman & CEO
MGM Studios
10250 Constellation Blvd.
Los angeles, CA. 90067

Tel: 310-449-3000

yaaayoubetcha
September 12th, 2006, 09:51 PM
If the movie flops, it won't be the fault of Craig.

I love Bond and have seen every movie, including the horrilbe Dalton years and the franchise has been bogged down by bad writing and, as with most scifi, depending too much on effects and super gadgets rather than the man.

Yes, Bond has always had gadgets, but the stories were always about HIM overcomming the villain, getting at least a couple ladies and being smarmy.

The writers now write 2 or 3 big actions scenes and fold a week plot around them. I love Brosnan but his stories, if not his portrayal, were as bad as Dalton.

The stories need to go back to the man, not the toys.