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    First Contact?! 10x16 Spoilers

    Since when does the SGC have set rules about first contact, I'm not even going to talk about the star trek reference. As long as there isn't a friggin prime directive.

    #2
    Whats wrong with going about first contact in a special way?
    It makes sense to do so and Star Trek is far from the only scifi which have something like the prime directive. It just makes sense to have.
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      #3
      It's not like the SGC has cared about who they come in contact with before now, seems like they try to meet as much people as possible, all I'm saying is why the sudden switch?

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        #4
        dont think they want what happened to that planet in the episode Icon (season 8)

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          #5
          Probably, but that was one time out of how many first contacts?

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            #6
            Whenever they're run into an advanced culture they've gotten themselves in deep trouble. It's just common sense to realize that it's better to be safe than sorry. Just like they learned very early on to send a MALP through to planets before sending a Human through first and see how to deal with a host of possible situations from there, they've discovered that advanced cultures are their own unique situation that needs to be assumed as hostile/unfriendly until proven otherwise. So, unless you think it's better for them to send SG teams into a scenario where it's proven that they have a high chance of death, I don't see the problem. It's also just good relations as think of how Earth would react if someone just strolled through the Stargate and begun running around the countryside, making contact with various citizens.

            Anyway, in season 8's "Icon" they sent a M.A.L.P. through, (the Stargate was also in a museum) communicated their intentions and then let Sg-1 through only have a delegation was ready to meet them and the public was cleared away. So, this is nothing new.
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              #7
              ^ Ageed!

              Its not so much like the prime directive. Didn't that state that they wooldn't interferre in the development of a culture that wasn't warp capable? Correct me if I'm wrong.

              It's more of a safety thing. They need to know that the culture their about to step into wants to meet them and won't kill them as soon as they step through the gate! And so that the culture know what the gate actually is so that they don't get into the situation like they did in 'Bad Guys'.
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                #8
                Indeed, it is in NO WAY as strict as the prime directive, if it was they would have a hard time using the gate as quite a few cultures they have run into have no clue how the gate works (or have Hyperspace tech but one would presume a Stargate version of the prime directive would be based on basic knowledge of gate travel).

                From what Mitchell said it was merely a precautionary measure so they don't surprise the advanced cultures which could cause serious changes to their social structure aswell as potentially getting SG teams killed or even worse getting them more enemies then they already have .
                Good example of the dangers of surprising an advanced culture is when Prometheus lost its Naqadriah hyperdrive and had to pit stop on an isolated world unaware of gate or hyperspace travel.

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                  #9
                  I think they have been doing this all along, but usually off-screen seeing as it'd get boring to see the MALP going through the gate everytime.

                  Usually in stand alone episodes SG1 is already on the planet eh?

                  But usually if the people aren't that advanced they either don't pose a threat so we go to them, or they live too far away from the gate, so we go to them.

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                    #10
                    Yes we rarely see SG-1 arriving and its not often we see them doing the "meet and greet" thing so we really don't know how long they have been doing this (storywise).
                    They have ALWAYS (since episode one) sent MALPs to planets they didnt know the conditions of before they went through though so that havent changed .

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                      #11
                      I don't even think the SGC has anything close to a prime directive, and they've the whole First Contact concept backwards.

                      They've always inferered, with those who believe in the Goa'uld, Asgard and now even the Orii as gods. They've shown that people should change their beliefs and customs just to fit in with the idea of what Earth is like (such as the Orbanians) and Jack has even threatened to wipe out an entire race of electronic lifeforms because they believed the SGC had attacked them.

                      As it's been said, the idea of First Contact is with more advanced races, because the smarter they are the more dangerous they can be. Bedrosians, Goa'uld, Foothold aliens, Eurondans, Aschen and at one point even the Tagreans. All Advanced, all met under the wrong circumstances and in the end, all were very dangerous.

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                        #12
                        Especially after "Icon", you'd think that some sort of stricter protocol would be put in place.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tromboninator View Post
                          Since when does the SGC have set rules about first contact, I'm not even going to talk about the star trek reference. As long as there isn't a friggin prime directive.
                          The first contact procedure is more for SG-1's protection.

                          In Star Trek, it's more for the aliens' protection.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Daniel Jackson View Post
                            The first contact procedure is more for SG-1's protection.

                            In Star Trek, it's more for the aliens' protection.
                            Well said. For the development of the alien culture, the non-interference directive was established to prevent such disastrous occurances due to contact.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Daniel Jackson View Post
                              The first contact procedure is more for SG-1's protection.

                              In Star Trek, it's more for the aliens' protection.
                              Exactly.

                              Most people in the SG universe already know about aliens while in Star Trek, pre-warp civilisations consider themselves to be the only race in the galaxy.

                              It's only been about three worlds that they've visited which didn't know about aliens, such as the Tagreans, Bedrosians and those of Bad Buys. In all three occasions, it's been bad timing and unfortunate events which have made things bad.

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