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Elwe Singollo
September 9th, 2004, 03:08 PM
http://www.moviehole.net/news/4206.html

According to various sites, such as the one i listed above says Joss Whedon will be directing X-men 3, yay :) Very happy for him.

DownFallAngel
September 9th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Actually, all that is known is that he wants to direct it.

Also, Halle Berry won't be returning as Storm.

Elwe Singollo
September 9th, 2004, 04:05 PM
Actually, all that is known is that he wants to direct it.

Also, Halle Berry won't be returning as Storm.And your so sure, because? But yah, i want to hear something offical, so i'm not yet 'believing' that he is donig it, if he isn't, i'm happy for his work in Astonishing X-men :)

Sela
September 9th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Actually, all that is known is that he wants to direct it.

Also, Halle Berry won't be returning as Storm.

I like Halle as Storm, but as long as we get Wolverine back, I'll be satisfied! And I don't care who's directing as long as they're directing Hugh Jackman in black leather! (Yeah, Baby!)

Elwe Singollo
September 9th, 2004, 08:47 PM
I like Halle as Storm, but as long as we get Wolverine back, I'll be satisfied! And I don't care who's directing as long as they're directing Hugh Jackman in black leather! (Yeah, Baby!)I can see it, the new director decides to punish you, and others like you, and decide to put Hugh in something else other than black leather :rolleyes:

Liv
September 10th, 2004, 03:29 AM
http://www.moviehole.net/news/4206.html

According to various sites, such as the one i listed above says Joss Whedon will be directing X-men 3, yay :) Very happy for him.

I would love it if that were to happen. Actually, I think he stands a fair chance. Although, I want him to finish the Serenity - trilogy first. ;)

ibwolf
September 10th, 2004, 03:55 AM
I would love it if that were to happen. Actually, I think he stands a fair chance. Although, I want him to finish the Serenity - trilogy first. ;)
Since when did Serenity become a trilogy? In any case there is no danger that a sequal to Serenity will be green lighted until after the first one has opened (and done some good business), that means pre production will not begin until late 2005. Serenity just finished shooting so Whedon should have the free time to make X-Men 3 if it starts shooting sometime early (spring) 2005.

Wyrminarrd
September 10th, 2004, 03:56 AM
I´d like to see what he does with the firefly movie before saying anything about him helming the third X-men movie. He did a very good job with Angel and has shown that he can hancle ensamble casts.

If he get´s the job then I just hope he will stick true to the feeling that Singer had in the first two movies and doesn´t monkey around with the cast.

D.C.
September 10th, 2004, 04:48 AM
I liked the first two movies. Bryan Singer's a pretty awesome director, It would have been cool if he stuck with the franchise, but who knows how this new one will be.

Liv
September 10th, 2004, 04:56 AM
Since when did Serenity become a trilogy?
It hasn't. I was making with the "please, please, please-let it be so" - assumption that I run with sometimes. Positive thoughts and all that. ;)

Although, it is reasonable to assume that if it does well at the box office (which isn't all that unlikely, even though it might start off slow - I think word of mouth will be key here) then there will be a trilogy. Lord only knows there have been several movies out there that have deserved it less, and still managed to squeeze out a couple of sequels.

I'd like to think of Serenity as the 'little movie that can'. Err... or will. The way it got to the screen in the first place is pretty unusual, given that it was cancelled halfway through its first season. But Whedon has Universal behind him (unlike Fox, I might add) and from what I've read they're very pleased with what they've seen so far. I really do think they have a box-office-hit within reach here.

And you're right, there would be time for him to do X-Men 3 in between a possible sequel to Serenity, so I'm happy either way. ;)



I´d like to see what he does with the firefly movie before saying anything about him helming the third X-men movie. He did a very good job with Angel and has shown that he can hancle ensamble casts.

I'm not worried about his directing abilities moving to the big screen (but I'm partial, I know) having seen what he can do with Buffy, Angel and Firefly. I thought Objects in Space in particular was a masterpiece.

Elwe Singollo
September 10th, 2004, 05:49 AM
I´d like to see what he does with the firefly movie before saying anything about him helming the third X-men movie. He did a very good job with Angel and has shown that he can hancle ensamble casts.

If he get´s the job then I just hope he will stick true to the feeling that Singer had in the first two movies and doesn´t monkey around with the cast.Heh so your saying it would be better how Singer did it, with practically leaving a character out for a while, then out of nowhere there he/she is again?

Teal'c
September 10th, 2004, 06:38 AM
Joss is going to/wants to write and direct it and I think he'll do an excellent job. He wrote a script for the first film too and the only line from it that got used was:

Scott: How do we know it's really you?
Logan: You're a dick.
Scott: OK.

And the only way Halle Berry will be coming back is if the film is called X3: Storm :P I didn't like her character at all anyway... I don't I've liked her in anything, not even that Flintstones film :P

Bub-bub
September 10th, 2004, 09:01 AM
I´d like to see what he does with the firefly movie before saying anything about him helming the third X-men movie. He did a very good job with Angel and has shown that he can hancle ensamble casts.

If he get´s the job then I just hope he will stick true to the feeling that Singer had in the first two movies and doesn´t monkey around with the cast.

Agreed on the matter of the 'Serenity' film. He needs to prove to a wider audience that he can actually direct as well as come up with dang fine ideas for shows.

As for messing with the cast... Replace Ms Berry with Gina Torres (Zoe in 'Firefly'), keep everyone else (so no penny pinchin'!), give both Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen more scenes together and then we're talking!

I shall refrain from making any comments that involve Hugh Jackman, black leather or a lack of clothes;) Must maintain standards!:rolleyes:

I adore the X-Men films and was saddened to hear that Bryan Singer had been 'poached' by Superman, but if they get the right script and a good director, can't see why x3 can't be as good as the other two.

We'll see....

Wyrminarrd
September 10th, 2004, 11:11 AM
Heh so your saying it would be better how Singer did it, with practically leaving a character out for a while, then out of nowhere there he/she is again?

There are to many X-men characters to fit into one movie and give each the time he really deserves, so it´s the directors job to strike as good a balance as possible.

And if I were doing the third X-men movie I´d just cut storm out of it and give the screen time to some other character like Beast, Gambit or Collossus.

Bub-bub
September 10th, 2004, 12:01 PM
[QUOTE=Wyrminarrd]There are to many X-men characters to fit into one movie and give each the time he really deserves, so it´s the directors job to strike as good a balance as possible.
QUOTE]

If they follow the huge hint dropped at the end of X2, I think Cyke is going to have a hell of a lot on his plate come X3... Count on it! :D

Sela
September 11th, 2004, 04:13 PM
I can see it, the new director decides to punish you, and others like you, and decide to put Hugh in something else other than black leather :rolleyes:

Spandex works for me as well. :D

Elwe Singollo
September 11th, 2004, 05:21 PM
There are to many X-men characters to fit into one movie and give each the time he really deserves, so it´s the directors job to strike as good a balance as possible.

And if I were doing the third X-men movie I´d just cut storm out of it and give the screen time to some other character like Beast, Gambit or Collossus.I hope Yahoo Movies page isn't right about how they aren't going to bring in Gambit :( But since the third movie hasn't been written yet, me has faith :D

DownFallAngel
September 11th, 2004, 07:34 PM
It's supposed to revolve around the Dark Phionex, the Brotherhood and the White Queen.

aAnubiSs
September 11th, 2004, 08:32 PM
White Queen... is that Emma Frost? Can't remember, so long ago I read X-men :)

DownFallAngel
September 11th, 2004, 08:34 PM
You know it is.

They should have Uma Therman play her part.

aAnubiSs
September 11th, 2004, 08:36 PM
Hah I still got it. I'll come up with actress suggestions later.

Elwe Singollo
September 12th, 2004, 01:44 AM
Yay, we get to see Jean/Pheonix kick everyone's booty, hopefully they'll show tons of cameo's of other mutants such as in the cartoon where they showed a bunch. :D But if it isn't about Jean/Pheonix, how unfortunate :(

Mr Prophet
September 12th, 2004, 03:30 AM
And the only way Halle Berry will be coming back is if the film is called X3: Storm :P I didn't like her character at all anyway... I don't I've liked her in anything, not even that Flintstones film :P

Okay; I get that she wanted a meatier role, but look what happened:

X-Men: Storm is full of hope and holds the mutant-hater's hand as he dies; X-2: Storm hates the world. Why? I know she moved between the two in the comics, but that was because she was forced into killing someone when she'd sworn not to. In the films she just seems to have got out of bed on the wrong side one morning.

Wyrminarrd
September 12th, 2004, 08:06 AM
I´m glad that Halle isn´t going to be in the third movie, she was starting to get way to full of her self and demanding that things revolved around her. And given how CINO went I personally believe she should never be allowed near another superhero movie again :D

Elwe Singollo
September 12th, 2004, 01:44 PM
I´m glad that Halle isn´t going to be in the third movie, she was starting to get way to full of her self and demanding that things revolved around her. And given how CINO went I personally believe she should never be allowed near another superhero movie again :DCINO? Whats that? Is that some abbrevation for catwoman?! Haha...

Anywho, i am happy for Halle Berry is she decided or doesnt decide to do a third one, because she can get higher paying jobs, and she doesn't have to worry about fame, or whatever. Not saying its good to ditch a movie, but i'm not going to be a HB hater.

DownFallAngel
September 12th, 2004, 01:56 PM
I don't find her all that good. I think she is over rated.

Wyrminarrd
September 12th, 2004, 02:20 PM
CINO? Whats that? Is that some abbrevation for catwoman?! Haha...

.

CINO - Catwoman in name only, it´s what the movie is called by the comic book fan community :D

Bast
September 12th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Joss Whedon will do a good job , Halle Berry cannot be forgiven for Catwoman for a while, But hopefully the years it takes to make this film will help clean out our memmories of that montrosity.

Whitster
September 12th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Agreed on the matter of the 'Serenity' film. He needs to prove to a wider audience that he can actually direct as well as come up with dang fine ideas for shows.

I can't see the Firefly film doing well at all it has no real fanbase built-up due to it's lack of episodes. Plus most sci-fi fans i talk to hate it because it's a half-arsed sci-fi attempt and most mainstream viewers havn't even heard of it because no terrestrial channel picked it up.

Elwe Singollo
September 12th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Heh, i don't want to even comment on your negative post, but i would like to say, it was on Fox, they mistreated the show, and what exactly does "...no terrestial channel picked it up." mean?

Teal'c
September 12th, 2004, 05:58 PM
I wanna see Beast! I don't wanna see a scientist soon-to-be Beast appear on a tv screen for 3 seconds, I want to see the big blue guy himself! :P

Plus, maybe they'll build a really cool set that Atlantis can use when they're done :P

Going back to Canada means lots and lots of Stargate actors again :D (There was 13 in X-2 I think :P)

Whitster
September 13th, 2004, 05:00 AM
Heh, i don't want to even comment on your negative post, but i would like to say, it was on Fox, they mistreated the show, and what exactly does "...no terrestial channel picked it up." mean?

Terrestrial/Free-to-Air channel(not cable/sattalite or any other pay-to-view) basicly when a show hits terrestrial TV in the UK I believe its the equivilant to it airing in US syndication. In fact thinking about it Firefly wasn't even shown on a good cable channel over here I think Sci-Fi run about 4 eps and then canceled it. As for saying it was Fox mistreating the show, this is the excuse everyone gives me for it and I'd like to make it known that I actually brought the DVD set and watched it in order and I still despise it being called a sci-fi.

ibwolf
September 13th, 2004, 05:28 AM
Terrestrial/Free-to-Air channel(not cable/sattalite or any other pay-to-view) basicly when a show hits terrestrial TV in the UK I believe its the equivilant to it airing in US syndication. In fact thinking about it Firefly wasn't even shown on a good cable channel over here I think Sci-Fi run about 4 eps and then canceled it. As for saying it was Fox mistreating the show, this is the excuse everyone gives me for it and I'd like to make it known that I actually brought the DVD set and watched it in order and I still despise it being called a sci-fi.
Fox did mishandle Firefly. They promoted it all wrong, had no idea what they really had and then compounded the problem by airing the show in wrong order.

Personally I'm not sure that Firefly could have survived on Fox even if it had been managed properly, but it certainly could have pulled in number bigger then Stargate. It's just that staying on the air on a network is HARD, especially for a niche program.

And a movie doesn't need any built in fanbase etc. Do not forget that most movies are not based on any existing property. They can only rely on their own value and PR for success. Changing the name to Serenity will hopefully distance the film from the (undeserved) stygma that the show got because it was cancelled.

Also, Firefly did incredible business on DVD. Not everyone who bought/saw it on DVD loved it, but clealy a lot of people did. Given that they've by now sold millions of DVDs I think it's fair to say that the movie should do decent business if just those people show up.

Madeleine
September 13th, 2004, 05:53 AM
Why do you 'despise it being called Sci Fi'? Just curious.

Whitster
September 13th, 2004, 05:59 AM
Heh, i don't want to even comment on your negative post, but i would like to say, it was on Fox, they mistreated the show, and what exactly does "...no terrestial channel picked it up." mean?

Because the plots never seemed to focus around any sort of science, just the crews missions and relationships, sorry if I expect science fiction to feature some fiction involving science, I just found it more of a drama/soap. Also what was with the lack of aliens?

ibwolf
September 13th, 2004, 07:09 AM
Because the plots never seemed to focus around any sort of science, just the crews missions and relationships, sorry if I expect science fiction to feature some fiction involving science, I just found it more of a drama/soap. Also what was with the lack of aliens?
Refer to this thread for my view on this subject: http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=4206

Liv
September 13th, 2004, 12:01 PM
Also, Firefly did incredible business on DVD.
Yes, it did. And continues to do so. Also, as of right now there are 1111 reviews on amazon.com and it still maintains a 5-star average. That's pretty amazing. I don't know of any other show (or even movie) that can say the same. Granted, I haven't looked over them all, I haven't got the patience for that. But I too think it's a good indication of how it will do at the box-office.

Elwe Singollo
September 14th, 2004, 11:13 PM
Because the plots never seemed to focus around any sort of science, just the crews missions and relationships, sorry if I expect science fiction to feature some fiction involving science, I just found it more of a drama/soap. Also what was with the lack of aliens?I guess the science fiction is the actual space flight that is done on a day to day basis, colonization of new worlds as well. But i guess it would be classified more of a drama/soap, but i thought it was a good one at that, you can call Star Trek a drama, you can call Charmed a drama, so why can't it be the other way around calling a drama, scifi.

I'm confident Serenity will do better than i will expect it to (which is pretty normal right now, a box-office sales of not too low, but not too high)

X-men, X-men, i hope they bring in more of Jubilee, since she did have a bigger part imo, well i guess i'm looking at the cartoons, where she did help out a lot more, than a short cameo...

Manic
September 15th, 2004, 12:18 AM
I'm confident Serenity will do better than i will expect it to
How can you expect a movie to do better than you expect it to? That would mean your expectations exceed themselves... :S

Joss is a great character writer, which is why Firefly never emphasized the scientific aspects of the universe. His work is very character driven, and he might be able to pull off some good dialogue in X-Men 3. My only fear is that he won't be able to tell a full story without 20-some odd, hour-long episodes. I'll have to see the way he handles Serenity story-wise before I make any plans to see X-Men 3.

dogbertisgod
October 18th, 2004, 01:33 PM
Apparently, they're finally getting around to signing the rest of the cast to the X3 film. Hopefully Famke Janssen can pull off a good Dark Phoenix. Apparently some people want James Marsters (Spike from Buffy) as Gambit. As long as Halle Berry doesn't return as Storm,I don't mind. The Storm of X-Men is tall,confident and majestic. Halle's Storm was small, nervy and deserving of a slap. I mean she barely used her powers in the first two films. Seemed she was scared of them. How daft is that??

DownFallAngel
October 18th, 2004, 01:42 PM
Famke might not be attached to the film. She said in an interview with ACCESS HOLLYWOOD, that if Bryan Singer doesn't return for X3, that should would be skeptical about coming back. She also stated, in the same interview, that she would get a feel for this director, and if she doesn't make an instant connection, she is gone.

Elwe Singollo
October 18th, 2004, 02:25 PM
If she doesn't, sad :( Because if they were going to do the whole Pheonix story, it would have been interesting to see it visually in realtime.

Manic
October 19th, 2004, 12:50 AM
As long as Halle Berry doesn't return as Storm,I don't mind. The Storm of X-Men is tall,confident and majestic. Halle's Storm was small, nervy and deserving of a slap. I mean she barely used her powers in the first two films. Seemed she was scared of them. How daft is that??
That's always bothered me about Halle's portrayal of Storm. Halle complains that Storm's character needed to be bulked up. Truth is, Halle was given all the script she needed for that character. Storm doesn't typically play a very large role in the comics or animated series, but she has a way of commanding attention, and an air of confidence. Halle played Storm as being very meek. Storm is supposed to be the second leader of the X-Men, just behind Cyclops. Halle played Storm as if she was following Jean and Wolverine.

Also, every animated series and videogame has given Storm a very strong voice. This is a woman who posed as a weather goddess for a time-- she needed a booming voice. Storm is a very calm character, but her voice matched her name more than anything. Halle has a very timid voice. It's just not in her to sound like Storm.

So it's bad enough Halle Berry wasn't a good enough actress for the role-- it just didn't fit her. At all. Had she been a better actress, the role of Storm still would've been all wrong for her.

The only thing Storm and Halle Berry have in common is a half-white/black heritage. And even then, Singer forgot to give Halle blue contact lenses.

DownFallAngel
October 19th, 2004, 02:09 PM
I just need to say one thing...CATWOMAN....discussion over.

PartyLikeIts1984
September 27th, 2005, 04:29 PM
What I'm excited about is that Kelsey Grammar is supposed to be playing Beast. BEAST! Oh, my all-time favorite character, and I really think Grammar could do him justice.

Unfortunately, from what I've heard, is Alan Cumming on "The L Word," so, Nightcrawler won't be back. At least not his Nightcrawler.

As for the director switch up...I really liked Bryan Singer. A lot. And, if anyone has to replace him, it might as well be Whedon. Both seem to have respect for their fanbase.

Oh, and, Halle Berry...no. She was very, very blah.