what kind of ship would you build for earth

[jsw]

Now that earth has defeated anubis. does anyone think that earth should work on improving their ship building program. Granted the prometheus did okay in combat but they still need something bigger and badder. Like the excalibur from bablyon 5 the crusade. can earth now finally gather the resources needed to go into mass production of the f 302 and prometheus ships.

[Teal'c]

...there's no way they could build anything better than Prometheus, since it has Asgard shields and weapons that they can't reproduce :P

[Anubis]

It has to be better than Promethus. It's a pretty cruddy ship. They need to build one with better weapons and better shields. In Lost City, they almost lost all of their shield power which can't be good in battle. OK, maybe not a bigger ship probably one the same size or a bit smaller. It has to be a better design and have better features. Like a scout ship has cloaking. Perhaps the Promethus II should be invented?

[Crazedwraith]

It has to be better than Promethus. It's a pretty cruddy ship. They need to build one with better weapons and better shields. In Lost City, they almost lost all of their shield power which can't be good in battle. OK, maybe not a bigger ship probably one the same size or a bit smaller. It has to be a better design and have better features. Like a scout ship has cloaking. Perhaps the Promethus II should be invented?
Only because they had to sit there and cover SG-1's Tel'tac and let nuby concetrate his entire fleets fire power on the poor prommie.

Judging by that engagement its clear just how bloody strong the asgard sheilds are.

[David85]

No sh*t they almost lost shields, look at everything it is being hit with! I mean the mother ship there should have blown it out of the sky. It was getting hit with like 2-3 hits a second.

[Mr Prophet]

There's a problem with focusing too much on the ships, unfortunately, which is that it becomes much less 'Stargate' and more 'Starship'.

If they did however, then I'd like to see something different from the terran ships: Missiles, point defences in place of energy shields; that sort of thing. This was B5's strength; that each races' ships were very distinct. I'd like to think Stargate would do something as well thought-out.

[Bacardi]

Only because they had to sit there and cover SG-1's Tel'tac and let nuby concetrate his entire fleets fire power on the poor prommie.

Judging by that engagement its clear just how bloody strong the asgard sheilds are.

actually only one of the ships was firing on promie from orbit.. anubis' mothership. which has no bearing on the outcome cos it was the biggest n most powerful one there.. we assume.

plus if our asgard shields are in any way like the goa'uld ones.. theyre less effective in the atmosphere of a planet... mayb

[Anubis]

Adding to my earlier post. Even if Earth doesn't built a whole great big bulky ship perhaps something pretty powerful like an al-Quesh with good shields and weapons. Perhaps find a Goa'uld mothership and upgrade it really powerful

[Mr Prophet]

Perhaps find a Goa'uld mothership and upgrade it really powerful

What do you mean, upgrade it? It would take years for Earth engineers to understand the technology on a ha'tak vessel, let alone begin to develop it. Look at the way the doomed red-shirt tech drools at the idea of inspecting the shield generators in Osiris' ship.

The fact that the Prometheus has Asgard shields is neither here nor there, since they would take even longer to work out, even with a repair manual.

[Teal'c]

The Prometheus was hit a hell of a lot more times than Anubis was hit in Homecoming, so I'd say it's obvious why their shields eventually started losing power.

[Baal]

Once they learn about the ion drives from Space Race, they could build some good ships (maybe). Remember that they were given some to study?

[angsty_otaku]

the enterprise with a stargate on it...

jk jk...

i guess it would depend on the current situation...if it were a war situation something like the o'neill type ship would probably be the best, those asgard knew what they were doing :-p but if my main concern was transportation and not fighting...something like an upgraded goa'uld mother ship. or we could just build ships like the ones in starcraft...which btw...vulcan type ships are my savior...

[Lyapunovia]

Why build a ship - why not built a Global Defense System. With all the technology surely this would be a better investment.

[spg_1983]

what they really need to do is start building a fleet of smaller ships for minning and resource gathering on other worlds. as long as the stargate is in cheyenne mountain there is always going to be a bottle neck as to how fast and how much raw trinium and naquada we can get. yes the stargate is faster than ships but ships can carry much more than can be grought through the gate on any given trip and if the ships are on a regular schedule then there is a constant flow of the necassary material to build ships. the problem with building a bunch of capital ships is that it gets harder and harde to keep them a secret. you need multiple facilities if you are going to build many at once and those get hard to hide. also the fact that prometheus hasnt been spotted in orbit yet is hard to believe (although i think they keep it in the underground hangar when not in use) if you get a bunch going up in orbit someone is going to notice.

[BoBWraith]

Personally, I like the Prometheus, and I don't know why it gets picked on so much. Given that it is Earth's first capital ship capable of interstellar travel and space warfare, I think it represented itself very well in LC 2. The shields took a massive pounding and held up to it. The weapons were the problem. They were both superior and inferior to the weapons of their attackers in that the Prommie had the advantage of range and roughly equivalent damage output, but they ran out of ordinance too quickly. The F-302 has the same problem. The Prommie is supposedly equipped with an Asgard energy weapon, but due to limited power output they aren't able to fire the weapon while maintaining maximum shield strength. What I would like to see them do is make at least a couple more Prometheus-type ships, but maybe incorporate/adapt some Ancients technology into to it to give some decent energy-based weapons and better power output. That way they could keep the shields up longer and inflict more damage. It would also be cool if they could equip the F-302s with some sort of energy-based weapon in addition to it's missles. That would give Earth the advantage in future engagements with equivalent, or even slightly superior, Goa'uld numbers.

Also, I think spg_1983's idea of our own version of the cargo shuttle would be a great idea. Especially if it incorporated the same stealth technology that the Goa'uld version does. As for the Prometheus and possible other ships being spotted, I think there are several ways to deal with that. One way would be to take the construction off-world, but this would only be feasible if they took it to a world that was at least close to our level of technology such as Kelowna or the world the Prommie got stuck on during its maiden voyage. Another way would be to incorporate stealth tech into all future ships and keep them that way at all times when near Earth. Of course, after the events of LC 2 I would find it laughable if at least part of the Stargate program wasn't made public knowledge, like maybe revealing the existence of aliens and that Earth has the Prometheus and F-302s. Which would render the problem of secrecy of future ships moot.

Lyapunovia makes a good point too. An orbital defense grid, similar to the one Daniel helped build in his dream in Absolute Power, would be a great help to the defense of Earth. However, there are certain problems with it that are probably keeping it from becoming a priority. First, it would be pretty much impossible to keep it a secret, since anyone with a decent telescope could possibly see it, especially if it was active. Also, it wouldn't be mobile which means it couldn't come to the aid of our off-world interests or our allies. If the gate were to become public knowledge then the need for secrecy wouldn't be an issue, but with Earth's limited resources it still might take awhile to build one since ships would still have an advantage. Anyway, that's just my $0.02 on the subject.

Also, if you are interested in the more technical aspects of SG-1 then I would recommend taking a look at http://www.stargate-tech.net , it's got lots of cool info.

[Storm]

A better-looking one than Prometheus. I mean, it's obviously a tough ship and can take a lot of punishment, but that has to be the but-ugliest thing I've ever seen.

[Thoth]

A better-looking one than Prometheus. I mean, it's obviously a tough ship and can take a lot of punishment, but that has to be the but-ugliest thing I've ever seen.

I like the look of the Prom. It doesn't look like one of those stupidly pretty Star Trek ships, with their little extra dishes at the top and all that. Granted its not the nicest looking ship, but at least its practical and its looks weren't exactly the engineers' main priority.

But what about its capabilities? How many motherships do you reckon it could handle simultaneously if none were flag ships (the ones with the REALLY big honking space guns) until it would get destroyed.

[Teal'c]

A better-looking one than Prometheus. I mean, it's obviously a tough ship and can take a lot of punishment, but that has to be the but-ugliest thing I've ever seen.
The Prometheus is beautiful and you can't say anything about it again until you learn to spell butt! :P

[SGSlugger]

The Promethous has that distinct look to it. It looks like it would actually look like if we built it today. Star Trek ships were okay for the 23 century, but something now should look crude and not very streamlined...which the Prommie does.

[trekman47]

what they really need to do is start building a fleet of smaller ships for minning and resource gathering on other worlds. as long as the stargate is in cheyenne mountain there is always going to be a bottle neck as to how fast and how much raw trinium and naquada we can get.
I may be mistaken, but don't the ships need to use naquadria for the hyperspace engines? so you would be using up naquadria at an alarming rate with this fleet of ships... also, the tech is still quite unreliable. additionally, each ship would require its own defenses. Finally, it would require an additional large group to know about the stargate and alien tech to crew the ships, which is probably not such a good idea... Anyways, I don't think its such a bottleneck in the SGC, they just stockpile large amounts and then, less frequently, send it all at once back to the sgc. I'm sure it could be managed efficiently.

As for other ships tho, i do think that more combat ships would be prudent; at least another prommy size ship and more fighters...

[Newbie]

I say, and I bet O'Neill will agree with me: "Build an Enterprise!!!" :D

[Rhydderch Hael]

Smaller is better: they should go for a torpedo frigate— really a big over-sized bomber with hyperspace and cloaking drives for a fast hit-and-run attack on Goa'uld fleets. Jump in, cloak until you can get ahead of the baddies, close into firing range and let loose with your 5-round rapid-drop rotary launchers holding some pretty big missiles with some pretty big naq-enhanced nuclear warheads atop them. Jump out. Rinse. Repeat as needed.

[Champos]

what they really need to do is start building a fleet of smaller ships for minning and resource gathering on other worlds. as long as the stargate is in cheyenne mountain there is always going to be a bottle neck as to how fast and how much raw trinium and naquada we can get. yes the stargate is faster than ships but ships can carry much more than can be grought through the gate on any given trip and if the ships are on a regular schedule then there is a constant flow of the necassary material to build ships. the problem with building a bunch of capital ships is that it gets harder and harde to keep them a secret. you need multiple facilities if you are going to build many at once and those get hard to hide. also the fact that prometheus hasnt been spotted in orbit yet is hard to believe (although i think they keep it in the underground hangar when not in use) if you get a bunch going up in orbit someone is going to notice.

I see your point, but in my opinion we should establish an off-world shipyard. It could be either on a planet where naquada is mined, or on just a 'safe' planet and have the materiel brought in through the gate. That way you could avoid cluttering up the gate, and you could avoid difficult questions. Just stick a MacDonalds on the base for the workers and you're done. Perfect.

[Teal'c]

Just stick a MacDonalds on the base for the workers and you're done. Perfect.

Until the workers are too fat to go back through the Stargate :P

[Rail'k]

I would build a ship may by based on a star destroyer becaus it is a movie made on earth and all of the other races in the gallexies other than the mimicers from foothold. and Star Destroyer are so big they could probaly hold 15 X-303's and thousends of small fighter type ships they cold get away whith it they they could go to an unpopulated planet with a stargate and take the stargate and put it on bord the "star destroyer" you will have the coolest ship in the univese not including the asgard.

[Rail'k]

repeat really cool

[veneticuss]

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[Teal'c]

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Seriously, like an ass! [/redvsbluereference]

Rail'k, let dead threads rest in peace, don't unearth their corpses... they smell up the place :P

[mad_designer]

I think they should design and build a new generation of dreadnoughts. Hundreds or thousands of missile tubes (or hundreds OF thousands), thousands of energy weapons emitters, 10+ shield generators, 20 foot thick armor, and hundreds of Fighters.

And to add a bit of humor to it it would be called the "Oops, I fired again" class, with the second one named the "Oops, I killed you again".

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...........

Now you now how I chose my user name! And how fitting my signature is.

[Lostinmyownvoid]

I think the earth forces need a dedicated carrier with multiple sheilds (so the fighters and eventually bombers/torpedo bombers can be refueled and re-armed after runs). Maybe even a dedicated "Gunboat" (decked with Naq missles). The Prommie is only bad because it is'nt a true battleship and is'nt a true carrier it is somewhere in the middle which makes it a nice small engagement ship (taking on fighter wings and/or lone motherships) but in a large engagment you need bigger guns or longer range.

[kopd]

I'm glad this topic was brought up, because it's something I have been thinking about a bit. While some decent attack ships are of course necessary from a defense stand-point, there are other things to consider. I think we need a couple of small, quick ships, something similar to a Goa'uld cargo ship. Then, the next time someone is trapped off-world, or Felger 'felges' up the Stargate network, we won't have to hear the dreaded words "we're still waiting for a Tok'ra with a ship."

[Lostinmyownvoid]

I'm glad this topic was brought up, because it's something I have been thinking about a bit. While some decent attack ships are of course necessary from a defense stand-point, there are other things to consider. I think we need a couple of small, quick ships, something similar to a Goa'uld cargo ship. Then, the next time someone is trapped off-world, or Felger 'felges' up the Stargate network, we won't have to hear the dreaded words "we're still waiting for a Tok'ra with a ship."

Good idea but it still needs escorts so maybe a psuedo-fighter/transport would be better. Maybe a fighter style ship that holds an extra four persons.

[thefurryfurling]

i think a cool weapon might be a naquadah enhanced H-bomb that was on a missle type payload but had cloaking technology and was moving slow enough to bypass shields, like O'Neill's knife on that episode with Heur'ur. it went through his shield or the tranq darts on Chimera

[Lostinmyownvoid]

i think a cool weapon might be a naquadah enhanced H-bomb that was on a missle type payload but had cloaking technology and was moving slow enough to bypass shields, like O'Neill's knife on that episode with Heur'ur. it went through his shield or the tranq darts on Chimera

Why not an just make a Naquadria(spelling?) Bomb like Kellownans (spelling?) used.

[MadJaffa]

My vision of the Earth fleet of Season 8 and beyond. Arranged by size from smallest to largest:



F-302 or similar - no interstellar travel, can enter atmosphere and escape Earth's gravity, loaded on larger classes for transport, later upgraded with Atlantis tech

Al'kesh <sp?> or Transport: Earth style - hyper-drive, personel and cargo transport, can hold it's own against death gliders and such, can load onto:

Prometheus class - what we love and hate, emphases taken from carrier role, placed on gunship duty, still can enter an atmosphere

Uhhhh class - this ship would be as large as a Ha'tak, true carrier, mass troop transport and mass battleship, this ship should, in the story, be wrought with delays, maybe not till SG-1 and it comes to the rescue of Atlantis

[aAnubiSs]

I'd fix the F-302 engines, Goa'uld really owns up F-302 here. Get the gravitic-drive! I'd also find some turreted energy weapon.

BC-303, is fine the way it is.

Would research railguns. Either to launch missiles or naquadah projectiles. With the Asgards help we could get the railguns up to a good speed. This would probably pass right through the shields due to the amount of kinetic energy they're carrying.

I'd make something like the drones Anubis used in TLC1. SGC has limited manpower, and should therefore risk as few lives as possible. Drones would do this.

[Mr Prophet]

Why not an just make a Naquadria(spelling?) Bomb like Kellownans (spelling?) used.

Or we could get a stick, write 'right' at one end and get hold of it by the other.

I reckon the first thing they need is an offworld shipyard. If the SGC aren't going to fess up about the Stargate Program, they need somewhere completely out of the way to carry out their starside R&D and large scale manufacturing. It's a big project and that's good because it's full of story possibilities; especially if they build it on an abandoned alien shipyard that's still full of booby traps.

aAnubiSs: What makes you suggest that high KE would let a railgun penetrate shields any more effectively than the energy in a plasma weapon? Or the detonation of a missile?

[thefurryfurling]

Why not an just make a Naquadria(spelling?) Bomb like Kellownans (spelling?) used.
because naquadria is rare, besides we naq h-bombs are easier and cheaper to produce, and in the ep Memento when the naquadria reactor exploded it nearly took out the prommie and it knocked out electronics on the planet surface

[Janus]

spg_1983 idea about making our own of Goa'uld cargo ship makes sense.
But I think that, unlike the Goa'uld version, ours should be armed.
Once it works, Felger's plasma weapon should do the trick.
The problem is the events in 'Redemption, part II'.
Here we learn that Anubis can see cloaked ships.

But maybe there's a way to fix this.
I was thinking that Anubis didn't see the ship itself.
He found a way to pick up a ship's exhaust.
Then all you have to do is follow the trail to the start.
But if you were to install a 'sprinkler' at the end of the ship's tailpipe, you could scatter the exhaust into pockets to small for sensors to see.

[aAnubiSs]

Or we could get a stick, write 'right' at one end and get hold of it by the other.

I reckon the first thing they need is an offworld shipyard. If the SGC aren't going to fess up about the Stargate Program, they need somewhere completely out of the way to carry out their starside R&D and large scale manufacturing. It's a big project and that's good because it's full of story possibilities; especially if they build it on an abandoned alien shipyard that's still full of booby traps.

aAnubiSs: What makes you suggest that high KE would let a railgun penetrate shields any more effectively than the energy in a plasma weapon? Or the detonation of a missile?


Do the math on how much energy a 10Kg projectile at 0.01c delivers. The plasma bolts aren't travelling fast at all and plasma isn't good for long range.

[Janus]

What about the ship found at Steveston in "Nightwalkers'' ?
Maybe we could finish it using the information captured during the incident.
And since all the Goa'uld had work with was Earth technology, getting resources wouldn't be problem.
That ship would be build with parts and materials that exist on Earth.
Maybe an idea for the X-304 ?

[Mr Prophet]

Do the math on how much energy a 10Kg projectile at 0.01c delivers. The plasma bolts aren't travelling fast at all and plasma isn't good for long range.

Yeah, but when lasers go slower than bullets, it's time to put physics on the back burner. The only reason railguns are any good at all is those super cool corkscrew trails, which you know they'll still leave if someone fires them in space!

[aAnubiSs]

Only seen one laser/particle beam in all stargate. And that's on the replicators ship.

And lasers wouldn't be good in ship vs ship, since all it does is heat up the ship. And Naquadah is very heat-resistant.

[Mr Prophet]

And trinium is resistant to projectiles, plasma would boil off into space and slow-moving energy blasts would be worthless for firing at fast-moving ships at ranges of over a hundred yards anyway. What's your point?

Stargate is very much soft science fiction. A railgun would work if it were suitable to the plot and not otherwise; kinetic energy calculations notwithstanding.

[Janus]

What about a deep-space mine-laying-ship ?
Take a mine from the Toban system, figure it out and make our own version.
Then build a ship to put a nasty surprise in place for any Goa'uld ship that drops out of hyper-space.

[Mr Prophet]

What about a deep-space mine-laying-ship ?
Take a mine from the Toban system, figure it out and make our own version.


Here's the thing: Space - as a wiser man than I once said - is big; really big. Spaceships are - in relative terms - very, very small. To adequately mine the solar system would require billions of individual mines; you'd need your entire industrial economy on a mine footing, and most of your product would never get used. That's what the Toban did, and let's face it they still seem to have died out of something.

[Janus]

Here's the thing: Space - as a wiser man than I once said - is big; really big. Spaceships are - in relative terms - very, very small. To adequately mine the solar system would require billions of individual mines; you'd need your entire industrial economy on a mine footing, and most of your product would never get used.

Okay, plan B.
Get some help from the Asgard and steal the entire minefield.
Then put a global defence network in place, like in 'Aboslute Power'.
Now the 'big nations' know about it, it wouldn't be so expensive.
Voila, if the get through the field, we led the network deal with them.

[Athosian Death facilitator]

OKAY
My ship would be similar to the Daedalus class ships.2x the size of a wriath hive ship.

the differences would be that the
Daedalus F-302 bays would become Engine pods.
Sub light and Hyper Drive.
FIGHTERS AND JUMPERS

would be fitted with the cannons abord death gliders and plasma cannons as well drive pods co they work better than thrusters.

Wraith and Asgard Beaming technology.
Elevator Transporters like the ones inAtlantis.

Ancient Cloak.
Anceint cloaks as they are the most efficient.
DHD.
For the Stargate that latches on to the most nearby address.

Portable Stargate.
On board with a iris force sheild
ZPM.
The ships sheild and Cloak would be powered by the ZPM.
Gate Blocker.
That would render other Stargates on nearby planets useless so they cant
use theres at all.
Drive Pods.
For the SUPER Hyper drive and inhanced Sub light engines.

WEAPONS
Massive Rail Gun Plasma cannon.
combined for the most effective of uses.
Way larger in Scale plasma canon to the Carter used on Episode called "Bounty"
2 times the size of ori cannons.
Heads Up Display.

FASE-ABLE nukelear bombs that can pass through sheilds and re appear to destroy the ships.

The ship would be equiped with puddle jumpers held inside the ship which
could be beamed out for attacking.you would also need the gene to activate the ship as it would be partially controlled by a weapons platform chair.

ADF

[wise one]

mine would be a warship, it would have rail guns all around the sides,top and bottom, missiles

it would be similar to the deadalus but even more streamlined and the front would be pointier

[Colonel Eriksen]

A main Ori Canon

Ancient Drone Weapons

Asgard Sensors

Asgard beaming

Rings

new Asgard Shields

one Tollan Ion Canon

Asgard hyperdrive

Tok´ra one way Shields prison cells

rail guns

Mark IX "Gatebuster" warheads

Mark III nuclear warheads

in the Hangar Bay room for 17 F-302


And one of them should be called the Ogier but the calls name f-304 Ambrosius.calls

[Athosian Death facilitator]

A main Ori Canon

Ancient Drone Weapons

Asgard Sensors

Asgard beaming

Rings

new Asgard Shields

one Tollan Ion Canon

Asgard hyperdrive

Tok´ra one way Shields prison cells

rail guns

Mark IX "Gatebuster" warheads

Mark III nuclear warheads

in the Hangar Bay room for 17 F-302


And one of them should be called the Ogier but the calls name f-304 Ambrosius.calls

HEy why asgard Ancient stuff is better and more powerfull and way to go with the ori canon i didnt think of that.

[the_dark_light]

Bigger battleships/carriers
Al'kesh sized vessels

Al'kesh's are useful because they're small enough to be maneuverable, but they pack a lot of firepower. Because they have their own hyperdrive, they can escort the larger vessels and be used for recon. Something that can jump in, scout the area and report whether it's safe or not

[g.o.d]

I would build the Collosus from Freespace 2

[the_dark_light]

I would build the Collosus from Freespace 2

Yeah, that would own all the other ships. Only problem is that you'd need about 20 years to build it

[Pharaoh Atem]

steal a ori ship simple as that.

[sg1adam]

With a larger ship, power is and always will be a problem as it would require more of it. That said, a 304 sized ship would be a good medium sized ship but built in a way that internal configuations can be for whatever is required, EI; Troop carrier, Supply, and Medical configurations to name just three.

Basic features should include heavy armour, it least 2 sets of rings to facilitate speedy drop-offs in situations where space is at a minimum on the ground, if not this then beeming tech, but this could be as-well-as, for "in-space" situations when things need to moved between ships etc... A troop carrier "model" would have to have powerful short and long range weapons. Short range, would be for defense situations during recall of troops, injured personnel, and recovery of supplies etc... and longe range weapons for "space" battles etc...

Another feature that could included are hyperdrive travel sensors, similar to what the Asgard use, so that you could know who's in travel and to where.

Power could come in the form of ZPM's or a stable Arcturus system, this could also provide a basis for weaponary aswell, along with drones too.

Thats all for now.

[Ripple in Space]

Bigger battleships/carriers
Al'kesh sized vessels

Al'kesh's are useful because they're small enough to be maneuverable, but they pack a lot of firepower. Because they have their own hyperdrive, they can escort the larger vessels and be used for recon. Something that can jump in, scout the area and report whether it's safe or not

Yes! I agree 100000000%. The 304 is the perfect vessel for a nation that can only produce 1-model of ship. But if we were able to build multiple designs, a nimble fighting machine would be ideal for many situations, and then a mass carrier & battleship would be needed.

The problem w/ the 304s is that they don't carry enough fighters, though they have a 2nd fighter bay which they don't stock, even if they fully stocked both of them they couldn't compete w/ the stock of a Hive or even a Ha'tak. The 302s have proven very effective against darts, gliders, and Al'kesh, but when they're outnumbered 200:1, the best they can do is take down a few baddies, and then survive.

[Kingomon]

I think I mentioned this ship on a another thread but I can't really recall which. Anyway:

Ship Name: The Nirrti (because of her being the first goauld with personal invisibility)

Ship owner: Earth

Ship Class: Stealth

Body: The ship is similar to the Teltak in size except it is built with a couple floors and multiple of rooms. The ship is dark black, just in case there is a problem with the stealth generator, it will be harder to see in space. It's hull is made of Trinum as well as material made for stealth ships on earth

Weapons Equipped: Missiles; Nuclear Missiles; Rail guns; five MARK IX
nukes;

Tech Equipped: Asgard shields; Asgard sensors; Asgard Beaming; Asgard hyper-drive; Asgard engines; a set of rings; Goa'uld escape pods; Tel'tek stealth generator;

Reason: After the Ori appeared within the Milk-way with there ships. It was discovered that tech Ori can't pick up stealth-ed ships so Earth decide to make a ship that could affect the Ori. With the Help of the Asgard and Tok'ra the ship was made and will be used to surprise attack the Ori or follow there every move.