Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

[JDeus01]

with a DHD which gate dial faster the pegasus gates or the milky way gates?

[Jimbo-DR]

Don't the DHD's typically dial as fast as you can hit the buttons?
I know that on Earth with our makeshift DHD it takes a few seconds but we've seen episodes where they dial the DHD's as fast as we can type on our keyboards.
The key to it all is that the gate actually has to lock the chevrons in place, so I guess the real question you want is do either of the Gate systems(Pegasus or Milky Way) actually spin faster than the other one.

My answer would be: I have no idea. :D

[ACharmedAsgard]

Well from what I've seen when comparing the different gates, The Milky Way gates are far older so should be slower. Another thing is, the milky Way gates have to spin to lock on to different shevrons whilst the Pegasus gates simply and electronically highlight the certain shevrons.

This shows me that the Pegasus gates are more likly the faster dialers

[stargate maniack]

i think the pegasus ones

[Rudeljaeger]

Well from what I've seen when comparing the different gates, The Milky Way gates are far older so should be slower. Another thing is, the milky Way gates have to spin to lock on to different shevrons whilst the Pegasus gates simply and electronically highlight the certain shevrons.

This shows me that the Pegasus gates are more likly the faster dialers

The Ancients were in Pegasus before they came to Mily Way, so the Pegasus ones are older. But the Ancients lost nearly all technology when they came to "our" Galaxy, and had to rebuild and construct everything new.

And the Milky Way gates do not have to spin, this is just an alternative way of dialing when you have no DHD. Look when they dial on other gates with an DHD, nothing spins there.

[Jimbo-DR]

The Ancients were in Pegasus before they came to Mily Way, so the Pegasus ones are older. But the Ancients lost nearly all technology when they came to "our" Galaxy, and had to rebuild and construct everything new.

And the Milky Way gates do not have to spin, this is just an alternative way of dialing when you have no DHD. Look when they dial on other gates with an DHD, nothing spins there.

Boy, I sure wish I didn't miss these crucial episodes where they reveal such important information as this. Care to tell me EXACTLY what episode you heard this in?(LOL).

[The Prophet]

The Ancients were in Pegasus before they came to Mily Way, so the Pegasus ones are older. But the Ancients lost nearly all technology when they came to "our" Galaxy, and had to rebuild and construct everything new.



Didn't they arrive in the Milky Way, then flee to Pegasus when the Plague came, then return to the Milky Way, once the Wraith attacked? Hence why there was the whole seen in Rising when Atlantis was taking off from Antarctica to leave for Pegasus? Leaving that Frozen Ancient behind, which we later uncover?

[Rudeljaeger]

Didn't they arrive in the Milky Way, then flee to Pegasus when the Plague came, then return to the Milky Way, once the Wraith attacked? Hence why there was the whole seen in Rising when Atlantis was taking off from Antarctica to leave for Pegasus? Leaving that Frozen Ancient behind, which we later uncover?

Im not sure, but I think they were first in the Ori Galaxy and then Pegasus where they had to escape from the Wraith to Milky Way...

[Tru Calling]

the ancients were originally in the ori galaxy, then came to the milky way, then fled to pegasus when the plague hit and them came back to milky way when they were defeated by the wraith!

[wise one]

well if you watch the rising, it takes fast to dial all the cheverons in meer seconds whereas the milky way gates takes longer for the inner ring to spin

[Vala_M]

Here's the timeline:

Millenea ago: Ori galaxy
100-50 million years ago: Milky Way Galaxy
50 million years ago to 10000 years ago: Pegasus Galaxy
10000 years ago: Back to Milky Way and then died off

AGT58

[Not_Fazed]

The Ancients were in Pegasus before they came to Mily Way, so the Pegasus ones are older. But the Ancients lost nearly all technology when they came to "our" Galaxy, and had to rebuild and construct everything new.

And the Milky Way gates do not have to spin, this is just an alternative way of dialing when you have no DHD. Look when they dial on other gates with an DHD, nothing spins there.

Dear lord, you've clearly watched the episodes backwards.

Also, I would bet that the 'offworld' prop gate doesn't have the ability to spin like the set gate.

The the internal mechanics needed to do so, would make the thing even heavier and harder to move than my ex girlfriend.

[Rudeljaeger]

Dear lord, you've clearly watched the episodes backwards.

Also, I would bet that the 'offworld' prop gate doesn't have the ability to spin like the set gate.

The the internal mechanics needed to do so, would make the thing even heavier and harder to move than my ex girlfriend.


Omnipedia says: "The inner track is a safety feature. When the gate has absorbed enough energy this track will unlock, allowing a manual dial in case something dire has occurred to the D.H.D."

[kirmit]

Milkyway offworld gates lock as soon as you press the button, pegasus gates lock after you've pressed the button and they've digitally spun, therefore milkyway gates are faster, it's only the SGC gate that is slow.

[ACharmedAsgard]

Milkyway offworld gates lock as soon as you press the button, pegasus gates lock after you've pressed the button and they've digitally spun, therefore milkyway gates are faster, it's only the SGC gate that is slow.
Actually the Milky Way gates spin if you remember and then each Cheveron locks. The Milky Way gates have a spinning inside ring, The pegasus ones don't

[kirmit]

Actually the Milky Way gates spin if you remember and then each Cheveron locks. The Milky Way gates have a spinning inside ring, The pegasus ones don't

not on offworld gates they don't, they lock as soon as you press the button. The inner spinning ring is a back up incase a DHD doesn't work, for a manual dial. 90% of episodes you'll see as soon as they have pressed the button the chevron locks, there's only the occasional episode you hear the spinning and that's likely just a mistake as they don't spin most of the time.

[An-Alteran]

Here is a question:
What happens if you make a typo on the DHD.:P

[Vala_M]

Then the gate won't activate. There are billions of combinations but only thousands of actual addresses. Carter said that one could try combinations for months and never even get one real address entered (Stated in "Past and Present"), she also tried herself many permutations when the show first started, the whole "My team tried hundreds of permutations using Earth as the point of origin but we never got it to work!".

AGT58

[An-Alteran]

Here's the timeline:

Millenea ago: Ori galaxy
100-50 million years ago: Milky Way Galaxy
50 million years ago to 10000 years ago: Pegasus Galaxy
10000 years ago: Back to Milky Way and then died off

AGT58
Wrong:

50+ million years ago: Orii Galaxy.
50- million years ago: Milky Way Galaxy.
10-5 million years ago: Pegasus Galaxy.
15,000-10,000 years ago: 100 year Wraith war, and return to Milky Way Galaxy.

I believe the Great Alliance began while the Ancients were in Pegasus, died a few thousand years before the Wraith War. And was restored temporarily again briefly before the Ancients ascended.


Then the gate won't activate. There are billions of combinations but only thousands of actual addresses. Carter said that one could try combinations for months and never even get one real address entered (Stated in "Past and Present"), she also tried herself many permutations when the show first started, the whole "My team tried hundreds of permutations using Earth as the point of origin but we never got it to work!".

AGT58
I mean how would they fix it.:P

It would suck:
You are getting chased by a hundred Jaffa, you hit the 5th symbol on the DHD, you almost have it... OH CRAP! you hit the wrong 6th symbol.:P
There is no backspace button.

[PG15]

I think the DHD resets itself if pushing the big red button does nothing. I remember seeing either Danny or Sam dialing again and again to get a lock but nothing happening each time.

[TheUnknown]

As long as there's a DHD, both gates take the same amount of time to activate.

[JDeus01]

milky way gates dial faster, i just saw inferno and when rodney dial you can hear than the gate activate a seconds after he end:(

[ACharmedAsgard]

I don't know now....I still think its the PG gates

[kirmit]

I don't know now....I still think its the PG gates

watch a pegasus gate dialing, the light has to spin all the way round the gate til it gets to it's chevron and locks, the milkyway chevrons lock the moment you push the button, the milkway offworld gates are definately faster.

[ACharmedAsgard]

Well personnal...I change my mind, I think they spin the same spead - none are faster then the other

[Avatar28]

Even though the PG gate has to "spin" when using a DHD, this happens pretty quickly. I think for the average person's dialing speed the PG gates dial just as quickly. Look at when they dial from a PJ for instance.

Maybe if you were using the DHD equipped with it's equivalent of a Dvorak keyboard you might run into a limit on the dialing speed.

[coffeerox]

this entire thread is retarded. Why? Because only the Earth one is the slowest due to no DHD at all (which requires manual dial) yet the offworld ones require no spinning, it only goes as fast as you can input the symbols. In Atlantis, the dialing is faster (because of the keypad), and activates just as fast as any other offworld gate. Case in point? The puddlejumpers. All they do is type the address in on the pad mounted inside the ship which is, by the way, faster than dialing on a planetary DHD.

So when it comes to speed, Pegasus > Milky Way, but only if they're dialing from Atlantis or the Jumpers. Regular DHD vs each other are still the same, and the Earth makeshift DHD is still the slowest one.

[Lord Zedd]

The Ancients were in Pegasus before they came to Mily Way, so the Pegasus ones are older. But the Ancients lost nearly all technology when they came to "our" Galaxy, and had to rebuild and construct everything new.

And the Milky Way gates do not have to spin, this is just an alternative way of dialing when you have no DHD. Look when they dial on other gates with an DHD, nothing spins there.

Perhaps you should really watch the shows detailed enough before you make such conclusions. What you are saying is not true ! The Ancients came from their galaxy to the Milky Way Galaxy. After that they took Atlantis to the Pegasus Galaxy ! But because of the unending war with the Wraith they left Atlantis in the Pegasus Galaxy and went through the gate back to Earth.

[Kingomon]

off world gates- MW gates
Earth gate vs. PG gate- PG Gate

But the Earth gate dosent really have a DHD it just has a computer that runs the spin. which PG gates are useless without a real DHD.

So MW gates are the faster then PG gate

[ACharmedAsgard]

I think they are the same speed in both galaxies as they both use DHD.

The exception being that the earth gate is slower due to having a computer having to dial and the Altlantis one being faster then all other gates, as it was the Ancient's main gate and has a special non - DHD dialing device which the Ancients probably made in order to make the gate dial faster.

[StevenCaldwell]

so why do you have to wait from the gate at SGC to dial one chevron befor you can dial another?

[ACharmedAsgard]

so why do you have to wait from the gate at SGC to dial one chevron befor you can dial another?

I have no idea...I think its so they can have Walter say "First Chevron encoded." or "First Chevron has failed to dial."........or "Danger Danger Will robin-" Oh...wrong sci fi series :P

[StevenCaldwell]

coz the gates in peggy you can just dial 8 symbles and the gate dials automaticly!

[IWKYZerocool]

coz the gates in peggy you can just dial 8 symbles and the gate dials automaticly!

7 symbols, we only dial 8 to go the SGC. as it is in a different galaxy.

[StevenCaldwell]

yeah thats right do you know why the gates in the MW you can dial 1 and wait for the chevron to lock befor dialing another?

[IWKYZerocool]

yeah thats right do you know why the gates in the MW you can dial 1 and wait for the chevron to lock befor dialing another?

Yes.... The milkyway gates are the oldest and needs to rotate the symbols to get the shevons to lock in place, the Peggy gates have lights for symbols, and as you see when watching Atlantis nothing spins apart from the lights turning.

[StevenCaldwell]

so the gate in the MW were the first ever built?

[IWKYZerocool]

so the gate in the MW were the first ever built?

well as far as we know yes, I don't know if they have stargates in the Ori Galaxy as we have never seen one over there. In the few episodes when Daniel was there.

[ACharmedAsgard]

Yes the MW gates are the oldest so far as we know. If there are gates in the Ori Galaxy then they would be the oldest.

[The_New_Anubis]

Milky Way gates are mechanical and Pegasus gates are just electronic (teh chevrons i mean) so id say the Pegasus gates are faster.

[Ehecatl]

I pretty sure that the Pegasus gates are the newer ones and that they dial faster. The Milky way gates are older you can tell b/c they dial by rotating the whole wheel with all the symbols and the chevrons have to lock into place. Where as the Pegasus gates use symbols made of lights and only the symbols spin not the whole wheel.

The ancient only went to Pegasus after their first attempt to settle the Milky Way failed (the encounter of the great plague the one that Ayiana carried). By then all the Milky Way gates were all ready in place.

[Col. Matarrese]

the earth gate is the only one that needs to spin. If you look on any given offworld gate, you'll see that they don't spin. You'll also notice that the atlantis gate makes the symbols light up until they get to a chevron. None of the pegasus offworld gates do that. Apparently, the stargates at the earth bases (atlantis and SGC) have to do some sort of spinny motion or else it wouldn't look cool. take a look. Maybe I'll make an animated GIF of examples of each gate dialing up and we can compare them, but I'm pretty sure what I wrote above is true.

Another thing that's come into my mind from this is that while we know we can manually dial MW gates by spinning the inner ring once we have enough energy stored in the gate, to date, we've seen no indication that pegasus gates can be manually dialed. In fact, I vaguely remember Rodney saying it wasn't possible after the DHD was destroyed in "Phantoms", though that may have just been because there was no power to the gate seeing as the power source in the DHD was destroyed along with the dialing functions. What think you?

[StevenCaldwell]

so as far as we know the oldest gates are in the MW, we dont know if the Ori have SG's, but would explain why they always come by ship, because they dont have stargates!

[ARMS]

The only thing the Pegasus gates don't have is manual dialling!

[kirmit]

so as far as we know the oldest gates are in the MW, we dont know if the Ori have SG's, but would explain why they always come by ship, because they dont have stargates!

Those ships got here by a giant gate....lol. How do you think the priors all got here in season 9 then? They didn't come in ships.

[StevenCaldwell]

i only realy watch Atlantis, if seen some of SG-1 but not alot. But ent the gates just big enough to fit a puddle jumper through!

[IWKYZerocool]

i only realy watch Atlantis, if seen some of SG-1 but not alot. But ent the gates just big enough to fit a puddle jumper through!

At the end of SG1 season 8 the ori manage to get a working super stargate to allow the big toilet ships to travel quickly between galaxies.

[Kingomon]

At the end of SG1 season 8 the ori manage to get a working super stargate to allow the big toilet ships to travel quickly between galaxies.
Season 9.
8 had the great Oniell still in it.

That gate reminds me of the Halo ring in the Halo 2.
Big rings= big trouble

[Adamus]

maybe with that whole mistake thing theres like a few second delay if theres too long a gap between the chevrons then it just resets itself turning off the lit up chevrons and not dialing anywhere and the ancients where in the Milky Way, then Pegasus and then back to the Milky Way where some mixed in with us (hence some humans having the ATA gene!!!!) and others lived in seclusion and ascended!!!!:cool: :cool: :cool:

[Thunderbird 2]

Personally I prefer the Milky Way Gates.

Although the only gate that literally spins is the SGC gate, we know they were all supposed to do this. - The Alpha gate (Found in Giza by Professor Langford, unlocked by Dr Jackson and used by the SGC now) and the Beta Gate (Discovered in Antarctica in "Solitudes" used by the SGC from season 4 - 6, and destroyed near Earth) both spinned while at the SGC, even though in Solitudes, the Beta Gate has a fixed bevel, as did the Alpha gate when it was beamed up to the Beliskner in “Nemesis.”

The reason I mention this is because we have seen the rotating bevel used to manually dial the gate in the past. (Torment of Tantalus) wheras the Pegasus gates have no manual dial system, as McKay has shouted more than once. If SGA 1 get stuck offworld, they need the Daedalus to beam them up. SG1 can usually jimmy the Milky Way gates if they need to in order to get home.

[ACharmedAsgard]

The only electronic stargates in the PG are those in Ancient outposts, they are the fastest their is, however normal gates in the PG and the MW dial at the same speed. The earth gates were the slowest ones

[.jolinar.]

Well as the Pegasus gates havent got an inner spinning wheel. So I'd say its a few seconds faster. It would be even faster if the Milky Way gate's inner ring got really rusty :cameron:

[JDeus01]

every wilky way gate (with a dhd) dial at the same speed as well the pegasus gates, there isn't any gate (of the same galaxy) than dial faster than another, and every pg gate have to splin, look episodes like "Home":mckay:

[Dr. Daniel Jackson]

Don't the DHD's typically dial as fast as you can hit the buttons?
I know that on Earth with our makeshift DHD it takes a few seconds but we've seen episodes where they dial the DHD's as fast as we can type on our keyboards.
The key to it all is that the gate actually has to lock the chevrons in place, so I guess the real question you want is do either of the Gate systems(Pegasus or Milky Way) actually spin faster than the other one.

My answer would be: I have no idea. :D

its weird but pegasus gates take time to dial
you hit the glyph on the dhd and it lights up to that place like manually dialing,
but just a little faster.
so
MW gates faster P gates= sucky...

[Dr. Daniel Jackson]

Well as the Pegasus gates havent got an inner spinning wheel. So I'd say its a few seconds faster. It would be even faster if the Milky Way gate's inner ring got really rusty :cameron:

NAQAHDAH DOESENT RUST....

[SpinningChevron]

As has been said before Pegasus gates are faster because they don't have to spin.

[Unbreak]

Nope. I really dont see the point in this. The time it takes to dial depends on how much time the plot needs o.O
Havent you guys been watching the whole tv show ? It`s not a fix amount of time.

And for ori/mw being older, even though when they started the thread wasnt available, in AOT is shown that there were no stargates in the ori galaxy.

Probably the ascended ori created one just to conquer earth.

Oh, and a few things.
Pegasus gates lights spin, off world also, and the same goes to MW, it doesnt in all episodes, because they forgot, or they plot needed it to dial faster.

[Guest750]

With a DHD it doesn't need to spin, you type the symbols and the chevrons engage. Earth's dialing device takes so long because it's a computerized manual dial. However, if given enough time the gate will spin. Look at rising part two, the first chevron has time to spin and does so but the rest don't so they don't.

[Unbreak]

Talking about rising.. if you look when the wraith call teyla`s planet gate, you can clearly see the lights spinning...
And I guess most of the episodes in SG1 when they are offworld and they are receiving a call the gate spins...
I guess it was supposed to spin ( either the inner ring or just the lights ) but they just forget from time to time..

[howwow]

Hi all.

I also replied on the other post regarding the differences in the gates; The very first time I saw the Atlantis stargate I've always thought it is a "digital" gate, it cannot be dial manually; The Milky Way gate (SG-1) is an "analogue" gate, it is as good as comparing how fast you dial on a:

-good old rotary phone &
-a push-button phone

I think the basic mechanics of dialing a Milky Way gate is the same wherever you are, I think it is just the show trying to cut down on the sometimes rather lengthy spinning of the inner ring with all the symbols, or addresses.

- the inner ring of the Milky Way gate will always spin when you push one symbol at a time, I think
- once the symbol "hits" the right chevron, it will "lock" in place

The Atlantis gate works the same way, but instead of an inner spinning ring, the symbol electronically/digitally "spins" and "lands" on the right chevron to lock in place

So I thought the Atlantis gate will dial faster, compare to the MW's; The disadvantage is, if you can't find a DHD or the DHD is damaged, there is probably no way you can do a "manual dial", that would make interesting story in Atlantis.

Cheers

[Guest750]

They both dial as fast as you dial them. The SGC's gate only spins because they use computers to electronically preform a manual dial.

[howwow]

Hi.

Actually I thought for the Milky Way Stargates, regardless whether you are at SGC or elsewhere, when you dial the gate, the inner ring has to spin, whether you are using a computer or a DHD, because the symbols need to go to their "rightful" chevron inorder to make a correct connection, i.e. phoning the right number.

I would still like to think that comparing the Milky Way gates and the Atlantis gates the best is comparing our own rotary phones and the current push-button phones.

Cheers

[Crazy Tom]

No, the MW gates don't spin ussualy, the spining is just there in case the DHD is damaged/not there/destroyed, so travelers can get back.

A safety precaution so to speak.