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    How did these planets never get touched by Goa'uld?

    How is it that the planet in tonight's episode (1010) and the planet in episode 920 ( Camelot ) were never discovered/disturbed by the Goa'uld ? It just seems like in all those years that passed that they would have come across them.

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    Short answer: Plot hole/device.
    Long answer: Large Galaxy, no naquada, Goa'uld have better things to do.
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      #3
      As you already know the Gate system was built by the Ancients, the Goa'uld really only know the gates that they discover by chance or by finding information left behind by the ancients. The Milky Way is quite big!

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        #4
        Beside the aforementioned reasons, the fact that there was Ancient presence here might have also deterred them.

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          #5
          well i dont think those planets are in the data bases. and hell there are over a billion combinations. there are thousands of planets un touched. and the planets orbit is possibly protected. and the goulds might have gotten killed by some ancient test
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            #6
            Maybe they're Asgard protected.

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              #7
              Also remember the Goa'uld had really slow hyperdrives until 10 years ago. so ya thats not really much time to explore the galaxy. like people before have said they must have relied heavily on gate travel before sg1 came into the picture. not to mention that since sg1 came into the picture the goa'uld have pretty much been in a constant state of war amongst each other. not much time to explore and enslave new planets

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                #8
                Originally posted by Tassadar
                Also remember the Goa'uld had really slow hyperdrives until 10 years ago. so ya thats not really much time to explore the galaxy. like people before have said they must have relied heavily on gate travel before sg1 came into the picture. not to mention that since sg1 came into the picture the goa'uld have pretty much been in a constant state of war amongst each other. not much time to explore and enslave new planets
                Makes sense. The Goa'uld probably either didn't know of the planets or wern't to concerned.
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                  #9
                  Way back in season one they went to a planet the Goa'uld had no knowledge of ('Torment of Tantalus'). In season two, O'Neill added volumes of new addresses after he had the Ancient database downloaded into his brain ('The Fifth Race'). The Goa'uld only used the gates that they found, and in a galaxy as large as ours, they're sure to have missed many.


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                    #10
                    And yet somehow, presumably despite thousands and thousands of years of uninterrupted development, they still have not advanced past the Medieval Age.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hatcheter
                      Way back in season one they went to a planet the Goa'uld had no knowledge of ('Torment of Tantalus'). In season two, O'Neill added volumes of new addresses after he had the Ancient database downloaded into his brain ('The Fifth Race'). The Goa'uld only used the gates that they found, and in a galaxy as large as ours, they're sure to have missed many.
                      i was just about to say that....
                      Goau'ld never had full list of gates.

                      No plot hole here. And there were other places not touched by Goau'ld that weren't under Asgard protection and had gates...

                      another thing is that all these planets were prolly seeded by human life not so long ago, so even if they were visited by Goau'ld, they might have been empty when they searched the galaxy... Merlin was among humans not so long ago and all of these planets follow arthurian mythology...
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Orion's Star
                        And yet somehow, presumably despite thousands and thousands of years of uninterrupted development, they still have not advanced past the Medieval Age.

                        Aschen did. but read my previous post, these planets follow arthurian mythology, so they werent seeded by human life that long ago, prolly during Merlin's stay on Earth.... and with limited population and enough natural resources, they didn't have need to puch for technological advancment.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by silence
                          Aschen did. but read my previous post, these planets follow arthurian mythology, so they werent seeded by human life that long ago, prolly during Merlin's stay on Earth.... and with limited population and enough natural resources, they didn't have need to puch for technological advancment.
                          Wait, wait, hold on. So Merlin gathered up a bunch of humans and took them to several different planets, and for what purpose? How? Why would he do this period? That makes no sense to me. If you are trying to hide something, like a super-duper weapon, why would you take people and put them on the planet where you put the weapon?

                          Besides, my Arthurian mythology is a little rusty, but I don't remember anywhere in the legend where it said "And Merlin gathered a great multitude of people and scattered them across many lands" or other such similar stuff.

                          Really, I am just tired of seeing the majority of every planet that they ever step through the gate end up being at the Medieval level or earlier. Honestly, it is annoying. Even if you are right, and they have only been there since Merlin's time, that is still roughly 600 years. And they have nothing to show for it? It's just ridiculous.
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                            #14
                            without population pressure, there is no need to have technological advances.
                            most of these planets are simple farmers living in a small village near gate, most of them have maybe couple thousend people on whole planet.

                            there is no incentive to explore or to try anything new. their crops grow, they have food, they have more then enough space, there is simply nothing to push them further.

                            look at Earth... what were some of first things ancient civilisation did? irrigation systems, to get more food. wheel, to improve transport, after that they started to use ships to get even further (they needed more space) with ships they started to look at ways to navigate (astronomy).... this is basically how development in Europe/Middle East (and China) took place. Central America and South America didnt even have wheel and yet they built great cities, but they lacked incentive to move forward all the time.... African tribes? they would just pick up berries and kill couple animals and their basic needs were fullfilled, same on Pacific Islands....

                            where you have small population that can get all it's needs fullfilled from their natural habitat, there is no incentive to explore and expand.... Middle East and Europe were very different... Middle East needed technology to create more furtile land (irrigation), in Europe other factors... after all, it was population pressure that forced tribes to attack Roman Empire and take it down, bringing the Dark Ages in Europe. those tribes couldnt feed themselves any more in their native lands, so they had to move to new lands....

                            so.... to make it short....
                            few small villages around gate in furtile enviroment == no pressure to change anything

                            hungry, poor and overpopulated region == pressure to move /develop / advance


                            Tollans, Aschen and some other human in MW are acctually AHEAD of Earth.
                            And there were many planets pretty close to current Earth tech.


                            So, to answer you, Merlin wouldn't hide something that important on place that might draw lots of attention (like Tollans), he hid it where people had no incentive to advance, so they stay off radar as long as possible.
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                              #15
                              Not all humans in the galaxy were seeded there by the guaould. Baal specifically said these planets were from the ancient master list that Oneil downloaded. The implication is that ancients seeded humans on these worlds after the plague and before the left for peagasus, in the very same way that they seeded life in pegasus. And like they said above a few posts, until a few years ago guaould hyperdrives SUCKED. Remember how it was supposed to take a year for apophsis to get to earth at the end fo season one? That was based on the typical guaould travel time. First aphophsis, then sokar and anubis upgraded their technology, probably through ancient and asgard technology.

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