What can the fans do to help SAVE SG-1?

[Sci-Fi]

And what idiot came up with this system? They are probably only looking at houses with men between 19-35 or something like that, even though a chunk of the fans are women.

It's more complicated that that. Basically it's a statistical system that changes constantly/parameters updated to reflect as accurately as possible the viewing preferences of the U.S. viewing audience. Nobody has come up with a better system.

People meters were added in the major cities and included in the sample. That's why many shows had a lot lower Nielsen rating the past year or two (some shows had a -42% drop in the ratings when compared to the old system rating). Tivo numbers are misleading since it is a voluntary "opt-in" system...so many Tivo viewers are not included in the numbers. Cable companies have their own raw stats, if a customer has a digital box. DVD sales are also looked at. So television networks, station groups, advertisers, agencies and media buyers have a lot of info and stats to look at besides just the Nielsen numbers. That's why it is increasingly difficult for a fanbase to make an arguement without quoting and using those same stats. You need to come up with some verifiable numbers or a different interpretation of the data and TBTB will listen.

BUT, this Nielsen is dumb and inaccurate arguement is an old one. Fans can't have it both ways. Nielsen ratings are fine and there are no complaints IF one's favorite show is doing good, but it is attacked if a show is being cancelled. If the Nielsen rating system is fundamentally flawed and inaccurate, then complaints about it should be consistent and somebody should devise a better system to replace it. How many times has fans of one series tout those same Nielsen numbers at another fanbase? I see/read posts about it all the time...and not just here. Just a simple search at this forum and people post how SG1 beat SG:A or BSG in the numbers game and vice versa almost every week.

But back to the topic. There are 3-4 more episodes of SG1 before the mid season break. If the fanbase wants to make a statement (quickly), then it's up to the fans to get people to watch the show and get those Nielsen numbers into the 2+ range and more importantly, keep it there. That will show that cancelling SG1 was a mistake and the franchise has plenty of life in it. ECW avgs a 2.37, so that should be the number to shoot for, if not higher.

[teknikal]

Hey *waves*

First and for most i am totally outraged an i am willing to do what ever it takes to SAVE SG1, so could someone please post the adress where i can send the 10,000,000 tissue boxes i plan on sending :D

misstweedledee
xXx

i found tesco to be quite cheap with their tissue..they'll soon be running out!!!!

[misstweedledee]

i found tesco to be quite cheap with their tissue..they'll soon be running out!!!!


Wicked and its 24 hours *runs out the house*

Ok so now i got them, where am i sending them to?

misstweedledee :D

[teknikal]

Wicked and its 24 hours *runs out the house*

Ok so now i got them, where am i sending them to?

misstweedledee :D


these address'..i think...
Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York NY, 10112

[Shep]

...That's why it is increasingly difficult for a fanbase to make an arguement without quoting and using those same stats. You need to come up with some verifiable numbers or a different interpretation of the data and TBTB will listen.

Hard money. That's the verifiable numbers. Writing to the advertisers and showing proof of your purchases of their products that they advertised on your show. Buying dvd's. Getting friends to buy dvd's. Giving dvd's as gifts. Setting up a dvd donation program to the library, military, etc. The Nielsens exist as a means for the advertisers to reach their consumers. Simply tell them they are. The Nielsens exist as a gauge for TPTB to tell who's watching because until TiVo it was the only method they had, and now lots of money and prestige, and money because of prestige, is invested in not moving away from Nielsen. Write, buy dvd's. Include your demographics and the upc code off your dvd box when you write to TPTB. That tells them you are.


BUT, this Nielsen is dumb and inaccurate arguement is an old one. Fans can't have it both ways. Nielsen ratings are fine and there are no complaints IF one's favorite show is doing good, but it is attacked if a show is being cancelled. If the Nielsen rating system is fundamentally flawed and inaccurate, then complaints about it should be consistent and somebody should devise a better system to replace it.

and


How many times has fans of one series tout those same Nielsen numbers at another fanbase? I see/read posts about it all the time...and not just here. Just a simple search at this forum and people post how SG1 beat SG:A or BSG in the numbers game and vice versa almost every week.

No, it's not dumb and it's not inaccurate, and there are plenty of discussions going on about the Nielsens unattached to any specific show. The system is flawed, and the kerfluffles during this year's upfronts re TiVo reflects that it's happening at an Industry level.

Those fans that you are referring to are simply not understanding what is a rather complicated issue and making their arguments accordingly.

[JBB]

Well, there goes my next to last reason to watch the Sci Fi channel. (I do enjoy Atlantis.)

The management of the (so-called) Sci Fi channel needs a brain transplant.

The channel as been going downhill for years with its increasing reliance on grade-Z monster movies and (the mind boggles) professional wrestling and now a superhero 'reality' series.

Q: What on Earth does wrestling have to do with science fiction.
A: It’s cheap to produce.

If you want a sure-fire prescription for the destruction of a broadcast asset, just leave the present managers of the Sci Fi channel in charge. It will disappear.

It isn't merely the decision to drop SG-1 that is rotten, it is the whole channel and its approach to programming. I am too lazy to look up how the management of the channel changed over the last five or six years, but it sure changed for the worse.

For example, about the time Sci Fi was picking up SG-1, they were also making theatrical quality movies like Dune and Children of Dune. Today, I can't recall any decent movies made in years under the Sci Fi imprint.

Certainly the quality of SG-1 means nothing to them. Stargate’s awards and nominations are too many to list here but if you are interested, see this link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118480/awards.

There are more than 100 awards and nominations (many of them multiple) ranging from Emmys to Saturns to Hugos and many, many more.

I haven't checked, but SG-1 may be the most honored show on television; if not, it is surely one of a very select group. And it was still being nominated and winning awards during what some (not all) feel were the slightly weaker seasons 8, et seq. It still is.

Not that this means much to management. Sci Fi channel has a history of dropping good shows over the past four years; it is almost as if they are against quality science-fiction programming. Is it too expensive?

Or maybe they don't really understand what science fiction is; I wouldn't be surprised. Take FarScape, one of the most inventive shows in many years and surely one of the most visually interesting; it garnered more than 25 awards and nominations and for its trouble got abruptly canceled by the Sci Fi channel management.

Then there is the implied excuse in some coverage that SG-1 wasn't doing as well as The 4400. That is blather. The 4400 is only so-so, but it is broadcast on two US channels (USA and Sci Fi), and scheduled in decent time slots on both.

If SG-1 were also on USA, and if the Sci Fi channel hadn't messed so much with its time slots (it is hard to build viewership with a moving target), I would bet real money that the viewership figures would be just about equal, and with SG-1's fan base, maybe better for Stargate.

One thing I'm sure of, The 4400 won't last more than a few seasons. It simply doesn't have the strengths that make Stargate such a great franchise. Good writing, superb characters, fine acting, and a wide-open premise that would allow it go, literally, go anywhere in the universe.

So I say, by all means agitate for the return of SG-1, but if you don’t get it, boycott the (so-called) Sci Fi channel. Buy SG-1 and Atlantis on DVD; at least the Sci Fi channel won’t get a share of the proceeds from that.

Remember, these are the guys that cut opening credits to ten seconds to make room for more ads – right after Atlantis was Emmy nominated for best musical score for those credits.

They deserve all the hurt they can get, right in the wallet.

[teknikal]

SG-1 needs to go on atleast for another season to wrap up the Ori story then tie up the loose ends in the SG-1 universe. T based on the same
i totally agree...it does need at leats one more season..you cant just solve a problem the Ori like *clicks fingers* that..it has so much potential..sci -fi just cant see that...

[Shep]

The management of the (so-called) Sci Fi channel needs a brain transplant.

The channel as been going downhill for years with its increasing reliance on grade-Z monster movies and (the mind boggles) professional wrestling and now a superhero 'reality' series.

No, actually, it hasn't. It's showed continued growth.



It isn't merely the decision to drop SG-1 that is rotten, it is the whole channel and its approach to programming. I am too lazy to look up how the management of the channel changed over the last five or six years, but it sure changed for the worse.

For example, about the time Sci Fi was picking up SG-1, they were also making theatrical quality movies like Dune and Children of Dune. Today, I can't recall any decent movies made in years under the Sci Fi imprint.

Again, no. They've actually improved. BSG and The 4400 and Eureka are solid shows, and critical hits, whether you personally enjoy them or not. SGA is another. SG-1 has been on the air for a decade, and would have gone off the air if Skiffy hadn't picked it up when Showtime cancelled it.

Having your show cancelled sucks huge, but you need to stow the bitter and get some perspective.

[Elles]

Having your show cancelled sucks huge, but you need to stow the bitter and get some perspective.
Doesn't mean we can't still hope...

[Shep]

Doesn't mean we can't still hope...

Not in any way telling you that you should. Simply reminding people that bitter is not helpful, but facts very much are.

And really, if I were trying to tell you that, would I have been wasting my time giving you guys ideas and trying to keep you focused on what's going to help you?

this article from MultiChannel News (http://mail.lycos.com/lycos/Index.lycos) was interesting.

[skydragon786]

An idea on how to continue SG-1 if all else fails:

One word: Donations

Millions, the world over, watch Stargate SG-1. Therefore, if only 1 million people donated a measly sum of $10 dollars each, the producers would have $10 million for a new season.

If I knew the e-mail addresses of the producers, I'd definitely ask them to consider it - To open a site where people can donate money - Those of us SG-1 fans who are rich can donate more, while the rest donate what they can if they want SG-1 to continue, with $10 being minimum.

I think it's a brilliant idea.

[miss_kaylee]

Stargate SG-1 got a blurb about being cancelled in September 1,2006 issue of Entertainment Weekley. It is on Page 20 on the Monitor. It is under Cancelled:
"After 10 seasons on the air (nine of them with MacGyver's Richard Dean Anderson). Stargate SG 1 will be grounded by the SCI FI Channel. But that still makes it America's longest-running scifi series, so in your face Trekkies."

[G8-watcher]

these address'..i think...
Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York NY, 10112

Although many factors were involved, the real decision maker behind the SG1 Cancellation is MARK STERN. He has a large majority of influence on the cancellation and possible, yes, possible continuation of SG1. MARK STERN should be receiving the bulk of mailed fan support... too many addresses will lead to less effective group support whereas if MR. Stern were to be flooded, we could make more impact. Here's the GUARANTEED address for him and a related VARIETY ARTICLE- http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117948764?categoryid=1009&cs=1

Mark Stern
EVP Original Programming
SciFi
100 Universal City Plaza
Bld. 1440, 14th Floor
Universal City, CA 91608
Mark.Stern@nbcuni.com

[ahdvd]

Well, it's official, sci-fi is holding SG-1 hostage and preventing it from getting a season 11 - and their bulls**t excuses make it clear it is PURELY out of spite IMO from the new feature on the gateworld main page (Am i wrong? - i think not). Sci fi has not only shown their sheer arrogance, but also that they have no one in control of the channel who has grown up to the age beyond that of on the school yard, i have no doubt that if you asked the heads at sci-fi why the show is not coming back, you'de get the response "Because i say so" - that's pretty much what the press statements say to me.

[Shep]

Well, it's official, sci-fi is holding SG-1 hostage and preventing it from getting a season 11 - and their bulls**t excuses make it clear it is PURELY out of spite IMO from the new feature on the gateworld main page (Am i wrong? - i think not). Sci fi has not only shown their sheer arrogance, but also that they have no one in control of the channel who has grown up to the age beyond that of on the school yard, i have no doubt that if you asked the heads at sci-fi why the show is not coming back, you'de get the response "Because i say so" - that's pretty much what the press statements say to me.

there is no talking reason with you people.

[Elles]

An idea on how to continue SG-1 if all else fails:

One word: Donations

Millions, the world over, watch Stargate SG-1. Therefore, if only 1 million people donated a measly sum of $10 dollars each, the producers would have $10 million for a new season.

If I knew the e-mail addresses of the producers, I'd definitely ask them to consider it - To open a site where people can donate money - Those of us SG-1 fans who are rich can donate more, while the rest donate what they can if they want SG-1 to continue, with $10 being minimum.

I think it's a brilliant idea.
One word: Not enough money...
Wait! That's three...
But anyway...

It takes $5 million to make one episode. If I remember how to do math correctly, you can make 2 episodes with $10 million.

So, no...

[Mycenia]

there is no talking reason with you people.

Not, not at the moment really. Emotions are still running high and will likely continue to for a while.

While I'm not fanatical like a few others, the callousness of Mark Stern's comment did bother me to some degree. I do understand that what Sci-Fi really wants is cheaper fees; if MGM succumbs then we will likely see an 11th and final season of SG-1 on Sci-Fi. That much was made abundently clear. Sci-Fi is playing hardball right now, they aren't going to give the rights to SG-1 up without a serious fight (if at all, but I do believe in the cupability of the entertainment industry).

I'd love a final season to round things nicely. I'd settle for a mini-series. I'd be bitterly disapointed in a tv movie (two hours are nothing) and I highly doubt a feature film would be good idea (though I'd go see it).

So we'll see. I've sent out my tissue boxes and letters like a good-little fan, but it all lies in corporate hands. Which is about as bad as relying on politicans.

[starlite07]

I found another petition I don't know if it has been put up yet but... it only has 100 signatures, so sign there as well!

http://www.petitiononline.com/bbacksg1/

[Elles]

I found another petition I don't know if it has been put up yet but... it only has 100 signatures, so sign there as well!

http://www.petitiononline.com/bbacksg1/
Experience from school has taught me that having two petitions is not a good thing. All the kids are always making petitions for random stuff and then others still are helping out by making their own petitions for the same thing. The confusion that insues as people don't sign one because they've signed the other one, or they sign two making one of those signatures invalid, causes the end of that cause. That is why no petitions at my school have been succesful.

[miss_kaylee]

Just because a tv show is a critical hit with the media doesn't mean that it will last long. Look at "Arrested Delevoplment". Media and critics loved the show but its rating and fox's changing its timeslot screwed it over in the end. Sci-Fi has messed up alot of shows . They ruined Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Who knows what may happen in the future? I know one thing, I will be a fan of this show till the day I die. I will never give up hope. It may take some time. But in the end ,our voices will be heard loud and clear. We seen it done and there is no reason why we can't try to make a diference. Even if it doesn't work, then we can say that we tried our hardest.
I do have a question. Has anyone tried writing to same of the main US entertainment maginze for support. I thought about writing to enterainment weekly to get the word out about our cause and maybe if alot of us write to them, then maybe we could get a same mention in there maginze.

[Elles]

I do have a question. Has anyone tried writing to same of the main US entertainment maginze for support. I thought about writing to enterainment weekly to get the word out about our cause and maybe if alot of us write to them, then maybe we could get a same mention in there maginze.
I've been considering writing to the my local newspapers, haven't gotten around to it yet though...

[Sci-Fi]

An idea on how to continue SG-1 if all else fails:

One word: Donations

Millions, the world over, watch Stargate SG-1. Therefore, if only 1 million people donated a measly sum of $10 dollars each, the producers would have $10 million for a new season.

If I knew the e-mail addresses of the producers, I'd definitely ask them to consider it - To open a site where people can donate money - Those of us SG-1 fans who are rich can donate more, while the rest donate what they can if they want SG-1 to continue, with $10 being minimum.

I think it's a brilliant idea.

That won't work and leads to temptation by those that are collecting the money. You would have to setup an investment company and hire professionals that are familiar (i.e. connections) with the industry. Neither MGM nor the SFC or any studio for that matter will touch fan money. Even if you raise 100 million, if nobody is willing to take the money where does that leave you? Might as well buy MGM and/or NBC stock with that money and make your case at the stockholders meetings. MGM could afford to fund a SG1 season 11 or lower the licensing fee if they wanted to without blinking an eye. Do you really think MGM is hurting for money? The question is: how long would it take to make that investment pay off? MGM has to answer to their shareholders and investors too...and most want to see an immediate return/results. Paramount lowered its licensing fee to UPN, but that was done so ENT could get close to the magical 100 episodes need for syndication. So UPN did Paramount a favor (helps the both are owned by the same parent company too...Viacom).

Just contact the Farscape effort to find out why they dropped the idea and refunded all the money. The consensus opinion was that it wasn't worth the effort. ST United went through a lot of controversy, esp when they tried to take some of the money to pay for the server bills without telling the donors (it was a rather a high "bill" too), not to mention getting caught paying a bill owed to another person that was unrelated to the ST effort (long story but in the end the money was put back) and written on/using a Trek United check. There was even a controversy about returning the money...-15% to "pay for fees" if I remember correctly, but ST United ended up returning all the money. If one takes away the "3 million dollar Pledge" by un-named, mystery potential donors, Farscape with its much smaller fanbase actually raised more real money in a shorter period of time. As you can see from the 2 efforts, Farscape had no or little controversy while ST United had many big ones.

At any "Save our Show" effort, con artists and opportunists come out of the woodworks to make a buck....even if they are only selling buttons and t-shirts. It becomes hard to separate the good guys and the bad guys, especially when emotions are running at a fever pitch. As always, be careful how you spend/donate your money and don't be afraid ask questions or raise concerns if something doesn't seem right.

[Freekzilla]

I found this funny site that allows you to enter in text to a background shot of the Colbert report's "You're on Notice" thing. I entered in a bunch of stuff, before I noticed that other people could see it too. Oops!!! :D

Here's the shot that I created:

Funny stuff. Anyone agree?

http://www.shipbrook.com/onnotice/

[ahdvd]

Not, not at the moment really. Emotions are still running high and will likely continue to for a while.

While I'm not fanatical like a few others, the callousness of Mark Stern's comment did bother me to some degree. I do understand that what Sci-Fi really wants is cheaper fees; if MGM succumbs then we will likely see an 11th and final season of SG-1 on Sci-Fi. That much was made abundently clear. Sci-Fi is playing hardball right now, they aren't going to give the rights to SG-1 up without a serious fight (if at all, but I do believe in the cupability of the entertainment industry).

I'd love a final season to round things nicely. I'd settle for a mini-series. I'd be bitterly disapointed in a tv movie (two hours are nothing) and I highly doubt a feature film would be good idea (though I'd go see it).

So we'll see. I've sent out my tissue boxes and letters like a good-little fan, but it all lies in corporate hands. Which is about as bad as relying on politicans.

But you know that if MGM capitulate's to sci-fi's demands for lower costs for SG-1 for a final seasn, they are just going to do the same thing come the end of next season for Atlantis, and that's why MGM cant give in to what is almost an act of terrorism, holding the status and future of the story of SG-1 from continuing and being complete, which really ****'s me right off! I'm sorry to get like that, but it's not the fact that the show's been cancelled that's done it for me - it's had 10 great years, it should be able to go on for a while given how good the writing is at the moment but if not then that's a shame. But it's the tactics that sci-fi have employed - cancelling the show almost in a whim, without giving notice to the series so that it could be finished, which a 10 year show deserves, and making sure that it cant be taken anywhere else (a la "if i cant have it, no one will") that's just unexcusable to me.

[Freekzilla]

But you know that if MGM capitulate's to sci-fi's demands for lower costs for SG-1 for a final seasn, they are just going to do the same thing come the end of next season for Atlantis, and that's why MGM cant give in to what is almost an act of terrorism, holding the status and future of the story of SG-1 from continuing and being complete, which really ****'s me right off! I'm sorry to get like that, but it's not the fact that the show's been cancelled that's done it for me - it's had 10 great years, it should be able to go on for a while given how good the writing is at the moment but if not then that's a shame. But it's the tactics that sci-fi have employed - cancelling the show almost in a whim, without giving notice to the series so that it could be finished, which a 10 year show deserves, and making sure that it cant be taken anywhere else (a la "if i cant have it, no one will") that's just unexcusable to me.

I agree. If SG-1 was allowed to properly prepare for it to be the end, that would be one thing, sad, but acceptable. But the way that the SciFi Channel has handled this whole thing has been just like you said, as if the Skiffy was a bunch of terrorists. Truthfully, I think Skiffy had this planned all along. Get that 200 record and run. It's especially obvious that it came as a suprize to the actors and the producers. The people at the SciFi Channel, especially Mark Stern, Bonnie Hammer and David Howe, are a bunch of greedy sleezeball scumbags. If I were MGM, I would NEVER deal with them again.

[Ra's mom]

I intend to send sci-fi a very angry email but can't find an address on their site.
ok guys, sci-fi wont listen to raving lunatics who tell them how stupid they are, and curse them, i mean, would you listen to somebody who did that to you?

[Metonic]

Find me an Episode where he says it I'll rip it from the DVDs & get to work & start the

Take Stargate AWAY from Sci Fi Campaign :cameron:
I know which one lol.... it came to me when i see a commercial for SG1... actually he said it in the commercial. and it hit me... I've heard him say it more than twice, more than hundred times... it was the groundhogs day episode

[K'anu]

If anyone would like to express their opinons about the cancellation just thought I would help...:daniel:


SCI-FI CHANNEL:
Email: feedback@scifi.com
Email: programming@scifi.com

Mark Stern, Executive Vice President Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel
100 Universal City Plaza
Bld. 1440, 14th Floor
Universal City, CA 91608

Email: mstern@usacable.net, mstern@scifi.com

[ECN]

I'm afraid giving us the address does no good.

We'd never be able to get a Wraith into his office.

[Mycenia]

But you know that if MGM capitulate's to sci-fi's demands for lower costs for SG-1 for a final seasn, they are just going to do the same thing come the end of next season for Atlantis, and that's why MGM cant give in to what is almost an act of terrorism, holding the status and future of the story of SG-1 from continuing and being complete, which really ****'s me right off! I'm sorry to get like that, but it's not the fact that the show's been cancelled that's done it for me - it's had 10 great years, it should be able to go on for a while given how good the writing is at the moment but if not then that's a shame. But it's the tactics that sci-fi have employed - cancelling the show almost in a whim, without giving notice to the series so that it could be finished, which a 10 year show deserves, and making sure that it cant be taken anywhere else (a la "if i cant have it, no one will") that's just unexcusable to me.

Oh, I agree completely. It's bull. Sci-Fi could have gone about it in a much better way. Like telling them last year, "Look guys, season ten is all she wrote. So wrap it up." Then at least they could have moved the story in that direction from the get-go. And managed not to squash the toes of the viewers that feed them...

No matter how it turns out, I've lost a measure of respect for the station. Irrevocably gone and never to return.:(

[Freekzilla]

Oh, I agree completely. It's bull. Sci-Fi could have gone about it in a much better way. Like telling them last year, "Look guys, season ten is all she wrote. So wrap it up." Then at least they could have moved the story in that direction from the get-go. And managed not to squash the toes of the viewers that feed them...

No matter how it turns out, I've lost a measure of respect for the station. Irrevocably gone and never to return.:(

A measure? HUH! Are you insane?! Try a LOT! The SciFi channel and it's employees are the scum of the earth as far as I am concerned. I'd certainly love to shove thier "contract" in some very unpleasant places. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Jedted]

I just thought of a away we might be able to save SG1. BUY THE ITUNES SEASON PASS!!!

I know most of you have Sci-fi channel but if everyone here pays iTunes $37 for the SG1 season pass then more profits will be made which should send a strong message to Sci-fi. If that doesn't get them to renew the series then perhaps it will help the producers when they try to sell it to another network.

I know $37 is alot of money especially for those who don't have the cash to spare but if you DO have the money to spend and you care about SG1 then it's a very small price to pay i think. :tealc:

[SeaBee]

Personally, I think that there is absolutely nothing the fans can do to make Sci-Fi or any other network pick up S11. If the American viewing public don't want to watch a show then the American networks won't want it.

In order for an expensive show like SG1 to get air time the networks have to pay for it with advertising revenue. S9's viewing figures worried them, and S10's pushed them over the edge.

In my opinion the decision was half way to being made at the end of S9, but the money men waited until the first figures from S10 to prove them right.

[TheUnknown]

Personally, I think that there is absolutely nothing the fans can do to make Sci-Fi or any other network pick up S11. If the American viewing public don't want to watch a show then the American networks won't want it.

The 5,000 people that have Nielsen boxes aren't the "American viewing public."

[ahdvd]

Here's what we can do, write to your local networks, and all other networks that air SG-1 around the world and/or write the producers at MGM to point this out-

Roughly 120 networks/channels show it and the rough word on episode production costs is $1.5m-$2m per ep? All they have to do is find money for the replacement of whatever sci-fi pays them and we KNOW that MGM part funds the making of the episodes, so i doubt they're recieveing $2m an episode from sci-fi, maybe something along the lines of $500,000-$1m as a reasonable number, meaning for a 20 episode season, a ball-park figure of $20m.

Let's see, $20m divided by say, even 100 = $20,000 each network for the entire season. That's a bit high for some of them, but that's an average, if you consider that there are some channels, like Sky in the UK and Pro Sieben in Germany that will co-fund a show and pay considerably more to do so.

Sky's done it with BSG (rumor was that they paid 1/3 of BSG's 13 episode season 1 production costs for rights to air the show first (something that wouldnt be a problem if US airing's were out of the question and a positive to bring them to the bargaining table), 1/3 of $2m roughly $70,000 (Hell, with the current exchange rate, they could maybe even get more out of Sky). I'm sure that getting more wouldnt be too impossible from the other 119 networks? And i'de be happy having a 13 episode final season to round up all the plots of the series - if they did this they may even find it feasible to do a full season or even continue the show beyond season 11.

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

I'm afraid giving us the address does no good.

We'd never be able to get a Wraith into his office.
indeed

[ahdvd]

have you not read ONE of the other thousads of posts before you wrote this?

[K'anu]

Is it not worth repeating?;)

[janus ancient]

The 5,000 people that have Nielsen boxes aren't the "American viewing public."


Exactly and the they know this as well. I think MGM will find a way around the contract they have in place with Sci-fi. When you have big Money like they do you can hire Big Lawyers.

Conan O Brien Campaign to Save SG-1 located at www.alteranancients.com

[nightstar02]

Exactly and the they know this as well. I think MGM will find a way around the contract they have in place with Sci-fi. When you have big Money like they do you can hire Big Lawyers.


where there's money there's a way!

i completly agree, they'll find a way, i hope

[jackattack]

I agree!! And if that doesn't work I vouch for a feature film!!

[Diamond]

I really hope they can save the show. Perhaps they could go to a different network if they changed the name of the show. Like to Stargate Command. I've signed the petition, and put a link to it, and to the latest news story here in all my Sigs on all the forums and other internet sites that I am a member on. I'm sure there's a lot of Stargate fans who don't know it's been cancelled or even about Gateworld and hopefully this will help alert them to what's going on.

Diamond

[Jackie]

I am tempted to send sci-fi some play monopoly money to express my feelings about thier channel and about thier beancounters not wanting to pay mgm what SG-1 is worth.

[Elles]

I am tempted to send sci-fi some play monopoly money to express my feelings about thier channel and about thier beancounters not wanting to pay mgm what SG-1 is worth.
Hee... good one. :D

[Wordsmit2]

After careful thought, I too have signed the petition.

Good heavens! More than 19,500 signatures!

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

http://gateworld.net/news/2006/08/mgm_considers_isg-1is_future.shtml

I am afraid this leaves us with only one alternative.... DOWN WITH SCI FI!!!!!!!!!!

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

It is most probable that Sci Fi will never air SG1 again...

I don't think Sci Fi have ever recieved more Hate Mail!!!!!

[Wordsmit2]

ok, we are told to watch the show live. But how are the ratings determined? if you are the lucky few in the polls, aren't those the ones determining SG1's fate? How exactly they going to know the difference from my TV being off but on auto record of if my TV is on?

A show's popularity is not just measured in Nielson(sp?) ratings. If you do in fact tune in live for a particular show, you a) are watching that show, and b) not watching another show.

This affects whether *other* people watch subsequent episodes of that show or a different show, because you talk about what you watch (and you can't very well talk about what you *didn't* watch) and you may be influenced to buy (or not buy) or comment on things advertised during what you watch.

Fandom is an excellent illustration of non-ratings-dependent popularity. You hear or read about a show that sounds kind of interesting, so you tune in. Or you hear or read bad things about a show and somehow never get around to tuning in. Either will affect what you have to say about what you're watching and how you feel about it and the ads that are on during it. And that affects all the people you communicate with. And it ripples outward.

Another example: In a note to a relative last week, I happened to mention the SG-1 viewer's choice marathon scheduled for Sep 1 on Sci-Fi. Which led to commenting that it will probably be the last, because SG-1 has been cancelled. By now, most of her friends probably know. And all I had intended to do was tell her about a particular episode in the marathon that I thought she would like!

[full.infinity]

The 5,000 people that have Nielsen boxes aren't the "American viewing public."
Not even 5000. Only about 1/3 of the 5000 people actually respond, and only a small fraction of that number are watching cable while SG-1 is on.

[sasg]

When I heard the news I felt really angry. After I saw the effort that fans were having to save the show made me feel proud to be a part of this "community" of fans and it made me feel that other people fekt the same way I do about the show.
Then I read that the Sci-fi channel's contract with MGM will prevent the show to find a new network. This brought me some mixed feelings. On one hand we have to thank teh Sci-fi channel for 5 years of sg-1. On the other hand they destroyed any chance of a future season.
I've signed the petition and asked my friends to do the same.

Sorry for eventual spelling mistakes (english is my second language)

[Caim]

hi my name is andrew boyce i have been getting people together in the hopes other will follow in my plan to save sg1 but with little success so now i come to the great people of gateworld my plan is if we can get as meny people as we can to meat at the sci fi building and show them how much this means to us the just might save the show so plz help me save the gate add me to msn to talk about my plan or email me at the_evil_power6@hotmail.com

[Jackie]

I have a better idea: Everyone save you empty toilet paper rolls and send them to skiffy stating you are supporting MGM and they should go flush themselves.

[Jedted]

If they can't save SG1 then the producers should contract the Horizon guys and make a tv show outta that. Or maybe an animated series atleast. :cameron:

[stewsith]

keep watching sg1 live for the ratings and have faith that the people that made the show arne't going to let their dream die just like that...taking massive action like storming scifi wont improve the ratings or bring the show back.

[Caim]

im wasent goin to storm the building like that i was goin to go there all nice and talk to them on behalf of the fans and tell them that all the fans that came hear came in the hopes they will see how much we want the show back

[Lillgreen]

not sure if this link has been posted, but here is a really good clip of the actors being interviewed about being dumped by scifi.
the comments by christopher gives us hope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmTUghzS_8Y

[ahdvd]

If you get this going (and ONLY if you know there will be large numbers there), be sure to tip off the press before hand so they can be there - sci-fi needs to be embarrased.

[Wraith Commander]

not sure if this link has been posted, but here is a really good clip of the actors being interviewed about being dumped by scifi.
the comments by christopher gives us hope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmTUghzS_8Y
Yes, yes it does. :P

[Caim]

i know some people at CTV and im goin to try to get on there and tell everyone about it

[Lillgreen]

ok i wrote an e-mail to microsoft and here are the contents of what i wrote, plz dont bash me too much, just trying to help the show.

To whom it may concern,


I am writing this e-mail in regards to the sci-fi show stargate sg-1 being cancelled after its season 10 airing.
What does this have to do with us? You may think.
Customer product exposure is what it can do for you.
There is a massive campaign on the way to save the show so that it may go on; one of these sites is www.gateworld.com
The fan base is enormous all around the world so ending it makes no logical sense at all except for it being about the dollars.
The fans of stargate are an extremely loyal bunch that are willing to donate whatever it takes to keep the show going.
There are a number of problems with this, one big one is it would take a huge amount of money to help it along it will require multi national companies to have some input.
This could be a perfect opportunity for Microsoft to lift its popularity with millions of viewers out there.
With the upcoming release of windows vista perhaps Microsoft could sponsor the show in some way to help offset the cost to sci-fi in production costs.
And during season 11 of stargate they could perhaps have the pc’s in the show to have windows vista operating systems on the screens with a big Microsoft screensavers for all to see.
This will get the ms logo out there to millions of people.
I am sure the stargate faithful would be deeply grateful for what ever input you may have into the successful future of the show and the loyalty they show for the show will carry over to the products of your company.

Yours sincerely Chris *******
** ******* St
Bittern Vic 3918
Australia

[WTFOwned]

it's gateworld.net, not gateworld.com

[Nathan]

If you want to help and not sure how a good starting point is Save Stargate SG-1 (http://www.savestargatesg1.com).

The site has a lot of stategies and ideas on what can be done. It also has many letter templates you can use to write to sci fi etc. Also if you want to, you can fill out a form and someone will print and send your letter off for you.

[Beej]

it'll be very difficult to get SG-1 going at another network, that means no cross over of SG-1 and SG-A team members etc....be hard to have them 'totally' independent of each other.

You might get a break of one year with no SG-1, but possibly see the two of them at another network to keep them together?

[Beej]

petition signed. 19,804 right here.

Whats the cut-off and how many do you think we need?

Someone PM me, i'll grab some numbers.

[PG15]

As many as possible.

[maylet]

We have to make everything we're able to save SG-1, we have to let everybody know that we all have to help

[jdog]

How about a spin off with the Sg1 cast and a few new faces get stuck in the Ori galaxy and have to find their way home. Less on missions and more on survival in a distant galaxy.

[janus ancient]

I love the idea to write to mircosoft. It is ideas like those that create change in the future. Even if it doesnt save sg-1 it could open up the doors for other possibilities. The greatest ideas in history were always thought of as crazy. Well, hopefully all of us "Crazy " fans can make a difference.

savestargatesg1.com
alteranancients.com for the Conan O brien campaign to save SG-1

[Korean_Turtle87]

i've added you to my msn


keep watching sg1 live for the ratings.
i wish i could help out there. But I'm in Canada >_>


i know some people at CTV and im goin to try to get on there and tell everyone about itooo nice. which area are you at?


how about we have a huge rally. gather in the areas you live in. for example, LA fans gather in one spot in LA, while Vancouverites gather in like...downtown? one big rally.

[Nathan]

i wish i could help out there. But I'm in Canada >_>

You can help out! www.savestargatesg1.com has ideas that you can do :)

[ahdvd]

hey who knows, Bill Gates might be a fan of SG-1 and just be pissed enough to buy out sci-fi! lol, yeah right, we'de be so lucky.

[jackattack]

Oh that would be the coolest!! :jack_new_anime18: Seeing SciFi fat cats actually bought out by a man who actually does some ( if you don't believe me there's the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation [ google it]) good for the world, instead of making them sad!! And with his wealth and gaming dept. he could probably finance an Sg1 movie and video game!

[Elles]

hey who knows, Bill Gates might be a fan of SG-1 and just be pissed enough to buy out sci-fi! lol, yeah right, we'de be so lucky.
I would bake a cake if that happened... :D:D:D

[ahdvd]

I would bake a cake if that happened... :D:D:D
I'de probably do the same, though with my cookig i might be arrested for pre-meditated murder! Sadly, the chance of a letter or e-mail getting through to o'l bill is probably remote at best.

[Elles]

Hm... But we can still dream...

[ahdvd]

just watched the hyperspace clip on youtube, we need to get details to hyperspace about how MGM wants to take SG-1 to another network but sci-fi is stonewalling that, so that sci-fi can either be made to rethink or try to not come off as jack-asses! Keep the pressure on!

[Caim]

even if we dont live in the US we still must try and save sg1 i live in canada and i was goin to the US so that is why i have a chance to get this campaign going even if you cant get there get as meny people as you can to help and get the people at your area together like Korean_Turtle87 said if we do this and have it on tv sci fi will have to respond!

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

ONLY If I can bring my missile launcher.

[Caim]

lol yes you can we can "show" sci fi how much we want sg1 back!

[Renenet]

SAVE STARGATE SG-1 CAMPAIGN - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!

We have established a letter-forwarding system, so that fans from all over the world, who are not in a position to mail their letters overseas, can contribute. They send their letters by e-mail to us, and then we forward those letters to our mailing volunteers in the US and Canada!
WE NEED MORE MAILING VOLUNTEERS!
If you're in the US or Canada, and can spare a little time and money, please let me, and my "mailing partner" Karen, know on this address:
letters@savestargatesg1.com

THANK YOU!

Ren

[Lillgreen]

down here in australia we have rachael luttrell & gary jones coming for a con on the 5th of november www.firstcontactconventions.com.au so i will be there and will be asking them for some insight as to how much our campaign is being heard amoungst tptb.
will keep the fight up from down here.

[L1ssalaun]

Forget about stupid petition, what mgm wants is CASH! Why can't we organize and pay the licencing fee to bring back the show for 11th season on the web? Is there any law that prevents fans from buying and distributing the show? What do we need all these stupid TV networks for? They are so 20th century, it's time to take the shows we like into our own hands. If Gateworld start a donation drive, I'm willing to donate $100 right now to get this thing rolling.

[stargatesg1uk]

MGM have already said that providing episodes on a download service like iTunes for example is an option that is open to them.

[Seastallion]

No, actually, it hasn't. It's showed continued growth.




Again, no. They've actually improved. BSG and The 4400 and Eureka are solid shows, and critical hits, whether you personally enjoy them or not. SGA is another. SG-1 has been on the air for a decade, and would have gone off the air if Skiffy hadn't picked it up when Showtime cancelled it.

Having your show cancelled sucks huge, but you need to stow the bitter and get some perspective.

:p Except that 'The 4400' is on USA Network, and not on Sci-Fi.

[Cru]

My letter got published in one of the local Vancouver dailies :D

http://www.metronews.ca/uploadedFiles/PDFs/Metro_Vancouver_0828_2006.pdf

SAVE SG-1!

edit: Page 4, letters to the editor, aug28, 2006

[sasg]

My letter got published in one of the local Vancouver dailies :D

http://www.metronews.ca/uploadedFiles/PDFs/Metro_Vancouver_0828_2006.pdf

SAVE SG-1!

edit: Page 4, letters to the editor, aug28, 2006


Tha's cool. Canadian fans aren't the only ones that are ignored. What about european fans? Or Asian? That's so unfair.

BTW the petition now has over 20000 signatures. That's impressive.

[Ace-SG1-]

SCI FI is geting dumb... there showing WWE on there now.... thats what? not sci fi at all... 1st jack, 2st the game, 3th this? whats nexted... the new game (stargate worlds)?

[Caim]

i have sent some emails and did some calling for my campiagn so i was woundering if anyone knows any news channals in the uk i can email to save the gate

[ahdvd]

The two channels in the UK that air stargate are "Sky one" who are going t be showing season 10 starting october, and "channel 4" who have yet to show season 9. Sky is the best bet, as they import a lot more shows and have more money for that sort of thing - they are part of the large Sky network.

[Fatewarns]

more information on what to do to help save are show

http://savestargatesg1.com/news/?p=126

and for those who do not live in the US here

http://savestargatesg1.com/international.php

[Shep]

Forget about stupid petition, what mgm wants is CASH! Why can't we organize and pay the licencing fee to bring back the show for 11th season on the web? Is there any law that prevents fans from buying and distributing the show? What do we need all these stupid TV networks for? They are so 20th century, it's time to take the shows we like into our own hands. If Gateworld start a donation drive, I'm willing to donate $100 right now to get this thing rolling.

They cannot take money from you, or any other individual.


Except that 'The 4400' is on USA Network, and not on Sci-Fi.

it's still their show, and they still get prestige because of it.

[glozano]

Hi.

I wonder how to save SG-1, this is becoming a new world, an united one, a world without borders, the Internet is bringing all together.

How much does it cost to make an SG-1 Episode? How Much does it cost to make a season?

I am 100% Sure, if MGM setups a campaing and sell episodes at USD$ 1.0 online, at high definition, to download over torrent and crypted so we decrypt with a key they give after we pay, they can make at least 500.000 per episode. Kinda sure of it, how much of us wont bother to pay 1.00 per episode at high definition (Not the Itunes for Ipod)?

Your ideas are welcome, I am sure MGM will find good ideas from us fans!!

[Bragi]

I'm buying a box of tissues tomorrow.

Also, I made this banner for the website, which is in my sig. You can let me know what you think of my banner by giving me some green and a nice comment. :D

[LORD MONK]

Forget about stupid petition, what mgm wants is CASH! Why can't we organize and pay the licencing fee to bring back the show for 11th season on the web? Is there any law that prevents fans from buying and distributing the show? What do we need all these stupid TV networks for? They are so 20th century, it's time to take the shows we like into our own hands. If Gateworld start a donation drive, I'm willing to donate $100 right now to get this thing rolling.
That is a damn good idea. I wonder what Darren would think. After all, he would be the best candiate for gathering the money and knowing who and what to spend it on and give it to.
It's funny you posted this because I just went out and bought some Lotery tickets for the same reason. I figured i could blow at least five million on it if I win.

[LORD MONK]

i have sent some emails and did some calling for my campiagn so i was woundering if anyone knows any news channals in the uk i can email to save the gate
If you are writing networks you should try and fugure out who bought UPN (channel 13 in Southern Cal and a major network like FOX) I think it is called MYTV or something like that. It should be changing in the Fall. (unless thats a oax to. j/k) They could use as a staple seems how they have none. Like SciFi did when they first got SG-1.

Just a thought that needs to be passed during such hard times.

[LORD MONK]

They cannot take money from you, or any other individual.



it's still their show, and they still get prestige because of it.
Bull on both. First why the hell would SciFi make a show and not show it. Dah.

and second (well actually first. If I slapped down 25 million I bet you 25 million I would be able to tell MGM they can show the show on any network that they want. (well they would have to sign and want it.) It doesn't matter if I gave the money to MGM to brake the contract or SciFi to get rid of the contract. Money talks Bull sh walks and the last time I checked they let let bull sh nowhere near the industry

[LORD MONK]

Hi.

I wonder how to save SG-1, this is becoming a new world, an united one, a world without borders, the Internet is bringing all together.

How much does it cost to make an SG-1 Episode? How Much does it cost to make a season?

I am 100% Sure, if MGM setups a campaing and sell episodes at USD$ 1.0 online, at high definition, to download over torrent and crypted so we decrypt with a key they give after we pay, they can make at least 500.000 per episode. Kinda sure of it, how much of us wont bother to pay 1.00 per episode at high definition (Not the Itunes for Ipod)?

Your ideas are welcome, I am sure MGM will find good ideas from us fans!!
Yes, very true. They say like a million at least watch in the US. That's TV's, not people. (I think) So lets say half would pay. Then there are our International friends so yes $500,000 would be easy to come up with. Not just that but all of us would be able to watch at the same time. For I am sure you all would watch when it comes out for the wait would kill.

[Furlings187]

hey everybody i am new to this but willing to do whatever is need to help this casue i have watched this show since the days of showtime so i can only hope for this show to live on some way



http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm

[LORD MONK]

I'm buying a box of tissues tomorrow.

Also, I made this banner for the website, which is in my sig. You can let me know what you think of my banner by giving me some green and a nice comment. :D
I haven't forgot about you Bragi. If I could give out greens you would have some. i think I have like 4 hours left before I can again.

I post like this because I have so much to say and I have MSNTV so I can't but everyones quotes in one post. Well, at leat I don't know how if I could. My Bad.

I am going to buy a box of tissue to tomorrow. Except I am going to piss in it and send it to the SciFi network. Well, I might change my mind when I wake up sober.

Damn it had to edit for I forgot to say the only thing on why I posted.
Kick butt banner Bragi. There, I am done.

[LORD MONK]

hey everybody i am new to this but willing to do whatever is need to help this casue i have watched this show since the days of showtime so i can only hope for this show to live on some way



http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm
Wecome to the Forum. Love the screen name except I know what 187 means. I hope you don't mean the Furling and it means the furling and a 187 on the mother Frackin Ori Army.

[Shep]

First why the hell would SciFi make a show and not show it. Dah.

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.


and second (well actually first. If I slapped down 25 million I bet you 25 million I would be able to tell MGM they can show the show on any network that they want. (well they would have to sign and want it.) It doesn't matter if I gave the money to MGM to brake the contract or SciFi to get rid of the contract. Money talks Bull sh walks and the last time I checked they let let bull sh nowhere near the industry

Then pony up your bet money, buddy, because you'll lose.

They cannot take money from individuals because money taken equates to contractual licensing obligations to those providing the funding.

Have Darren ask TPTB for you. I'll wait.

[eclectro]

SCI FI is geting dumb... there showing WWE on there now....

WWE on scifi makes me sick. That's one thing I wish that they'd dump. But it got better ratings than sg1 at the end of July.

And while fans couldn't give MGM directly, I bet MGM could pre-sale the DVDs and give the money back if the sales didn't pan out.

[Shep]

And while fans couldn't give MGM directly, I bet MGM could pre-sale the DVDs and give the money back if the sales didn't pan out.

huh?

Pre-sales are just that. Sales in advance of release. You pay ahead of time and then when the dvd is released, it gets mailed to you. There's no not panning out or giving money back. A dvd release wouldn't be announced if there was any doubt, of course barring unforseen circumstances, that the dvd was going ahead. And given that there are almost a decade worth of dvds released, and being re-released, I don't see where a "didn't pan out" would come from.

Let me use a metaphor that more folks might have a better context to.

When you buy a house, you put down about 15-35ish thousand as a down payment. The more you put down, the less your monthly payments. You get approved for a loan based on your ability to continue making the money that you currently make now, not because you managed to raise enough money for a down payment. Almost no one can throw down the total asking price, in cash, for a home. The only way you can afford the house, is to get a loan that is then amortized for 25, 30, 35 years.

Funding a tv show is the same. It's afforded because you spread the cost out over the life of a season. It's deficit funded typically, and money comes back to you through ad sales and licensing agreements, and if you're lucky, syndication deals. Everyone that kicks in money to fund the show gets a cut of some aspect of the money that the show generates.

Now come you guys wanting to kick in some cash. Even if you guys raised 40 or 50 thousand dollars, that's still the equivalent of a down payment. It's useless for a couple of reasons. Principally, it ain't your house. You aren't buying the show, you aren't putting on the show. You're fans. Remember that everyone that kicks in funding for a show gets a cut of some aspect of the money that the show generates. So there's you guys, all dropping down 2, 3, 10, 20, 50 bucks per. They can't take that from you because there is no way on God's green earth they are going to contract little 10 dollar bits of the show to you, because that is what they would have to do if they accepted your money.

The other reason is that, even if they could accept it from you, which they can't, whatever that amount is that ya'll hypothetically managed to raise isn't going to be enough. It's just that down payment.

Do the math here. MediaLife Magazine estimated that SG-1 costs about 2 Million Dollars An Episode. Even a really spectacular fan donation of about 25 or 30 thousand dollars wouldn't cut it for even one episode, and they cannot fund one ep at a time. It's the whole nine yards or no deal.

You guys want to raise money and do something really helpful with it? advertise off channel on your local cable companies. Cartoon Network was an absolute dream to work with when we took out ads for Farscape right before it came back from hiatus in its 4th season. You guys have an advantage of time on your hands. Skiffy never advertises off channel - and yes, I call ads on USA still on channel.

[Ajax]

I too have started an online petition for the renewal of Stargate, pleae sign and tell others.

here is the link
http://www.petitiononline.com/aug2906/petition.html

[FoolishPleasure]

Just a heads up - fans can donate money (any amount - $2, whatever) through paypall on the http://www.savestargatesg1.com/ site. Money raised is going for ads to save SG1 in publications like Variety. :)

[paulkd44]

Just peachy of scfi to pull the plug on the best programme they've got before we Brits have had a chance to see the latest series.

Just hope SG1 can do a 'Star Trek' on them!

[Clark'sGirl]

Sign the petition at http://www.savestargatesg1.com/

I have. Have you?

[Furlings187]

So since i am new to this what is our major option is it write to them or is there something better to do.

Plus the 187 is just my number i like.



http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm

[GateLadyM]

So since i am new to this what is our major option is it write to them or is there something better to do.

Plus the 187 is just my number i like.



http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm
Go to: http://www.savestargatesg1.com/

They have a lot of suggestions on what to do - how to write, fax, call, etc.

[Sci-Fi]

ok i wrote an e-mail to microsoft and here are the contents of what i wrote, plz dont bash me too much, just trying to help the show.

To whom it may concern,


I am writing this e-mail in regards to the sci-fi show stargate sg-1 being cancelled after its season 10 airing.
What does this have to do with us? You may think.
Customer product exposure is what it can do for you.
There is a massive campaign on the way to save the show so that it may go on; one of these sites is www.gateworld.com
The fan base is enormous all around the world so ending it makes no logical sense at all except for it being about the dollars.
The fans of stargate are an extremely loyal bunch that are willing to donate whatever it takes to keep the show going.
There are a number of problems with this, one big one is it would take a huge amount of money to help it along it will require multi national companies to have some input.
This could be a perfect opportunity for Microsoft to lift its popularity with millions of viewers out there.
With the upcoming release of windows vista perhaps Microsoft could sponsor the show in some way to help offset the cost to sci-fi in production costs.
And during season 11 of stargate they could perhaps have the pc’s in the show to have windows vista operating systems on the screens with a big Microsoft screensavers for all to see.
This will get the ms logo out there to millions of people.
I am sure the stargate faithful would be deeply grateful for what ever input you may have into the successful future of the show and the loyalty they show for the show will carry over to the products of your company.

Yours sincerely Chris *******
** ******* St
Bittern Vic 3918
Australia

and


I love the idea to write to mircosoft. It is ideas like those that create change in the future. Even if it doesnt save sg-1 it could open up the doors for other possibilities. The greatest ideas in history were always thought of as crazy. Well, hopefully all of us "Crazy " fans can make a difference.

savestargatesg1.com
alteranancients.com for the Conan O brien campaign to save SG-1

Don't know if anybody noticed, but Microsoft is a major advertiser on wrestling...you see advertisements and the wrestling announcers pimping xBox 360 and the 360 video games even during the matches. Obviously, they wouldn't be spending this kind of money if they weren't getting results, either in exposure or sales.

That being said, IF MS came to this forum, as many have suggested, and actually read many of the posts and topics...what kind of impression would you think they'll get when they read all the anti-wrestling (and any other anti-other shows) comments?

Nothing wrong about trying to save a show, but, IMHO, people need to lay off blasting other shows (whether those shows deserve it or not) and concentrate on the merits of and why SG1 should be/deserves to be continued and present/come up with a solid business case/argument. A business case is something the industry understands (studios, networks, advertisers, investors, media types, etc etc). Comparing or blasting other shows, which advertisers may have bought slots, to a show that was cancelled looks like a petty and desperate action from fans when the industry wants solid data that can change their minds or to give support/influence.

Fans also better promote watching SG:A too and raise their Nielsen numbers or we will be going through this next year. I've said this before...the quickest way to make an impression that a mistake was made (cancellation) would be to get more people to watch SG1 (and SG:A) and raise the Nielsen numbers back up, to at least historical levels, and keep the numbers there. Even if the SFC doesn't change their minds, the franchise will then be more attractive to other networks for a possible pickup. Fans have at least 3-4 episodes before the mid-season break and there won't be any new episodes shown this week (labor day)...so that's gives fans 2 weeks for an awareness campaign and to ask people to watch the show (a few of them might be Nielsen families or participate in the people meters). Remember what Robert C. Cooper said?


Cooper also emphasizes that "What's most important is that fans don't take out their frustration with Sci-Fi by not watching. In fact, what they need to do is watch both SG-1 and Atlantis LIVE and make sure the ratings stay strong. That helps prove to other outlets that might be interested in SG-1 that the show is still as strong as we think it is".

Any pickup or resumption of the series has to be done before the year is out (Jan/early Feb 2007 at the latest) or production for a new season will be impacted severly. Any existing contracts *may* become void/expire and if production starts up again, new contracts *may* to be negotiated with the various unions and actors and it could become more expensive, esp if many people decide to find/take other jobs or if they have to pay 30-day extension money to all involved while last minute negotiations are taking place. Also, the studio can only pay for studio space (lease or rental) and keep the sets up for only a certain length of time before they have to make a business decision and save the money/cut their losses. There is no guarantee MGM will store the sets for future use. Even if MGM decides to make a theatrical SG1 movie in the mean time, currently there is no known spec script for one and it usually takes at least 2 years in development before a movie goes into production. That only leaves TV movies and/or mini-series as a viable short term option or finding funding partners to produce more episodes (possibly international airings only...U.S. will only get the episodes later as part of some future syndication package).

Some people suggested iTunes or straight-to-DVD. What would be the per episode cost (to MGM and buyers) and would production values have to be scaled back so the episodes/DVD set is affordable? Do the math...at $20 U.S.D. per download/sale ... at least 100,000 would have to consistently buy SG1 episodes weekly from iTunes to meet the estimate 2 million dollar per episode cost and thats with no profit to MGM nor including any fee that iTunes gets. A minimum of another additional 30,000 episode buyers would be needed to show MGM stockholders that this experiment is worth the investment and they still might need advertisers to buy time to make it work. For a regular Joe, that means spending $80-100 a month to watch new episodes of SG1. LOST, Desperate Housewives, and BSG appear to be the biggest iTunes sellers (and thats at $2.00 a pop) but I haven't seen any solid sales figures of the number of buyers per episode. Say iTunes total weekly downloads, including music, is about 1 million a week (the latest est)....that would mean SG1 sales (@$20) would have to be/make up at least 10% of those iTunes sales. How many people signed the petition so far?...20k?...If those 20k bought SG1 on iTunes, it's still well short of the sales needed. My apologies to the petition gathers and signers, just using the numbers to illustrate a possible scenario.

It is possible to show new episodes on a video service like YouTube, but MGM would have to sell/include enough commercials in the video to pay for production costs. Not an easy task convincing advertisers to buy time, esp if the majority of the viewers are just SG1 fans that may or may not buy their products. Advertisers tend to want a broader, wider reach for their dollars...i.e. millions of viewers or readers.

MGM could buy air time and sell commercial time themselves if no network could be found and there's a primetime slot open on somebodies schedule. It's not unheard of and has been done in the past but MGM would have to buyout the SFC contract first. Politics and business relationships come into play too since the SFC airs SG:A, repeats of SG1, and MGM may want to sell other shows (new and old) to the channel in the future. It would be a tough business decision and financial commitment for MGM to make in any case.

Sorry about the long post....

[Shep]

All you need to know about what to do with money you raise. (http://gateworld.net/news/2006/08/ratings_slip_in_wake_of_200_prom.shtml)

"Ratings slip in wake of 200 promotion."

What's key about that sentence?

Promotion.

What did "200" have that most episodes don't?

Promotion.

What can fans do that Skiffy doesn't with ANY of its shows?

Promote. It. Off. Channel.

Use the time afforded you with the upcoming hiatus. Avoid print ads, except for key times in key publications, because they are more expensive and don't reach as many people. Buy local cable time. Advertise your show.

[ECN]

On your website, you say this-

MGM are actively seeking other options for Stargate SG-1, but they need ratings to remain strong with as many people as possible watching live on Friday nights.

The problem is, you are totally wrong.

The TV industry has NO way of knowing if the average viewer is watching the show live.

The only people known to the TV industry are those whose viewing habits are being monitored, either by a ratings service they've agreed to work with, or perhaps something like a cable company that keeps track of what channel subscribers' cable boxes are tuned to.

The viewing habits of most people are TOTALLY unknown to the TV industry. They have NO way of knowing what we watch, or when we watch it.

This means that for most people, WATCHING THE SHOW LIVE WILL NOT HELP.

Only people whose viewing habits are being monitored, as by a ratings service, can affect the show by watching live.

NOBODY ELSE can do so.

PLEASE do not continue to spread this misconception.

The average person watching live will NOT help the show.

Please give this serious consideration.



Thank you,

ECN

[Furlings187]

So from reading these post i have come to a realization that we need to somehow advertise and get the word out their that we need to watch the show. So we as a community need to somehow designate somebody for every state or do something to get the word out. because it would be hard for only one person to get it out there. So propose that each state and or city that is bigs enough to go to a local center where we can discuss the future and more tactics to get the viewers to watch it more. Another idea is to somehow advertise on a local channel.

http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm

[takinspace]

Flame! Flame! Rut roh <ducking> :)

[-PITBULL-]

I fully agree , and think that maybe the Networks need to find a real way to find out what people are watching .... Cable Companies these days have alot more power then the Networks as far as watching waht others watch ...

Take COMCAST as an example .... There is alot of consumers that have there Cable Box ... There Cable Box could be used to see what people are watching , Same could be done with TiVo's and Dish Network ...

Also these Cable Companies have there new thing out called ON-DEMAND ... Comcast has a great setup .. 24 Hours after the show has been aired on TV most of them go on to there On-Demand section ... USA is now using it as well as Discovery and other networks ... Big ones are SHOWTIME , HBO and those channels you pay for...

Then you have shows like HOWARD STERN that you pay 100Dollors a year for ..

With all these new ways to get shows out there Sci-Fi , ABC , NBC and SPIKE TV havnt yet found there way to these options ...

Then you have I-Tunes , Something that should have been used when I-Tunes first came out ... BSG has been there from day one of I-Tunes Video Downloads ... Why wasnt STARGATE Added to this at that time ... STARGATE Coudl have been using the Money from DOWLOADS toward there show ... Think of it 1.99 per Eps .. If you get even a small percent of people downloading it , say you have a 1.6 rating and you get say 6 hundred thousand people D/L the Eps ... there making 1,194,000 dollors per eps... That money could have been used for STARGATE SG-1 ....

But instead we have ratings that nmade the show its money ... What is Sci-Fi thinking ... What is MGM thinking ...

Now if Sci-Fi wont let MGM use US Networks to show STARGATE SG-1 , MGM Could use other choice's out there ...


ON-DEMAND from Comcast , Have a Fee of say 7.99 a month for STARGATE SG-1 and SG-A ... They could make there moeny from people that Subsride to there Section of ON-DEMAND ... Add in things like ....


Cast Interviews ...
Producer Video Blogs ...
Behind the Gate ...
Bloopers ....


Then you have I-TUNES .. For 1.99 an Eps , they could make alot of money from people that want to watch the show but arent able to get it in there area ...


Thats just two ways MG Could make there money from STARGATE SG-1 and SG-A that could go towards making new Eps ...

[Platschu]

I know that the Stargate SG-1 : The Alliance game was cancelled, but they should release it now. The MGM could have an extra profit from the game and maybe there would be new viewers for the series for the second part of this season. ;)

[Cherriey]

If SCI-FI stays with the whole "no more season 11" thing they could always release it directly into a boxed set. I'd buy it. Heck! I'd pre-order it!

[Furlings187]

i dunno i like the idea of the whole itunes things it would make much eaier for eveyone becuase you could watched it at your own comfort.

If not then we need to find another way to see it.




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[Space Monkey52]

i dunno i like the idea of the whole itunes things it would make much eaier for eveyone becuase you could watched it at your own comfort.

If not then we need to find another way to see it.




http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm

The main problem with iTunes is that you have to PAY FOR IT.

[windy]

I've been reading a here and there about the whole cancellation and I have to say I'm truly baffled at the reaction of most people. Does the show truly need saving?

I think all the fans of this particular show are in a very lucky position, one that many many fans of other shows can only wish for. There were 10 seasons, that's a whole decade of shows on a regular basis. Do the math 215 episodes each 42 minutes and all released on DVD or will be by the end of next year. That's a whole lot of SG1. Now I understand people are sad it's been cancelled, but really. A lot of shows are cut of mid-season, no ending, no resolution whatsoever. In SG1 case they knew it well in advance to plan an ending, to actually write and film episodes that are intended as a series finale and not just being cut off halfway through. And probably the most important thing is that MGM says it wants to keep the franchise alive, they're already planning something else, be it another series, a movie or a mini-series or whatever. I'd say there's very good chance we'll see the SG1 again in some form. Most cancelled shows certainly don't have this prospect. From the reactions I saw I'd say the cast is ready to move on too, they didn't seem horribly upset, sure they're sad not to see each other again on a daily basis, but they truly looked ready to move on.

Do we truly want to save it? Squeeze out another year with likely even worse ratings and should it ever happen the budget will be cut significantly, because currently nobody can afford it. Even if the ratings are horrible, they'd have to be stellar to make it worth it for SciFi. I don't blame SciFi's decision to cancel it, I do blame them for their awful timing though. Very disrespectful to just about anyone. But that's another ball of wax.

I say let the show go out with dignity and support a future movie/mini-series. Let's tell MGM we really want to see SG1 in a movie/mini-series and maybe thank them for the last 10 years rather than ranting about SciFi?

[lexa]

The main problem with iTunes is that you have to PAY FOR IT.
Yeah, I pay monthly for cable for Sci Fi channel. Where are you getting your SG fix?

[Cherriey]

What are these 'itunes' things?

[Furlings187]

I still think that we should still try to do whatever we can to save the show but i would still like to see another season there is still so much to show. The main thing i want to see is more of the alliance that they talked about with the four races i want to see what brought them together. So if they could show it in movie, episode, and miniseries i would be greatfully appreciated.

P.S. is their anyone willing to help me out with my site if so email me at Savethegate@yahoo.com

http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm

[Nathan]

What are these 'itunes' things?
They are episodes that are available through the internet. You can play them on an ipod or through tyhe computer or through any sort of portable device that is capable of playing video.

It's television 2.0 basically. You get what you want, when you want it and you don't have to wait for the tv stations to show it.

[lexa]

Here’s what I’m doing:

Last week, I went to the store for 100 envelopes and 100 stamps (total charge $41.13). I wrote 4 letters (MGM, Showtime, and Sci Fi x2) and made 25 copies each. I prepped everything so I have 25 bundles of letters. I penciled in a date on each bundle: 8/30, 8/31, 9/1, etc. But I excluded weekends. Then I stashed them in my desk drawer at work. Each day, when I send out my office mail, I send out my “Stargate mail”. My total time investment was around 3 hours for a whooping 5 weeks worth of letters. I had help with stuffing and sealing, but one letter took forever to write. I teared up a few times trying to write Sci Fi and my first 4, yep FOUR, drafts to them were rude and entirely inappropriate. From what I can tell, those poor people (I’m a pee-on at work, too, so yes “those poor people”) are getting lots of nastiness sent their way. Here’s what I settled on for that letter:

“Dear Ms. Hammer,

Sci Fi Channel and I are married. And like all marriages, there’s both good and bad. I’m upset that Stargate SG-1 was cancelled. But I love sci-fi and Sci Fi so I’m going to keep watching. I’m with SG-1 until the end and I’m ecstatic that Stargate Atlantis will be going for a fourth season. My friends and I will be watching and we’ll only badmouth Sci Fi a reasonable amount. But if SG-1 disappears forever, I will feel betrayed and hurt by Sci Fi, and domestic abuse is good for no-one. I want you to commit to giving us more SG-1. Sell it to someone else who’ll keep making it, give us a movie or mini-series, just give us one more season to kick the Ori’s ascended asses before it’s kaput. I’m counting on you to keep me and Sci Fi Channel out of couples therapy.

Thank you for taking the time to read my letter. Thank you for renewing Atlantis. Thank you for doing everything in your power to keep the SG-1 gate open.

Sincerely,”

I figure the little Sci Fi pee-ons will get a laugh. At my work, we have a little leeway to bend the rules (but we don’t make TV shows, so it’s not an exact analogy). If some… person calls me demanding this or that, yeah I’ll take their “requests” to my boss. But you better believe my boss gets a blow-by-blow account of how I was treated and 9 times out of 10 it’s “request denied”. Please remember to be polite to people in letters, emails, calls, etc.

Just one fan’s thoughts…

[SG1FAN111]

first time on boards so let me know if this is in the wrong area, but i just wanted to throw in my two cents...

I've seen a lot of posts of people saying they are fans of SG1, then they go on to say they will still watch the sci fi channel for SGA and BSG...

That directly contradicts the preliminary statement that you are a fan of the show, because a true fan cannot support the desecration of what he/she loves.

Watching other shows, after the cancellation sets terrible precedent, because then SCI-FI can go on making horrible decisions without any repercussion. Yes, its bad that SGA will take a loss of ratings, but it's a neccessary requirement, because this is the only way to teach them a lesson. And they must realize they cannot keep doing this, remember farscape *tears* (i feel bad for ben browder and claudia black, they go to farscape gets cancelled, then go to sg1, gets cancelled, someone in corporate doesnt like them)

I cannot stress the point enough, that continual viewing of the sci fi channel only serves to validate their methods and reasoning, because they will then see that fans will just get mad for a week then forget the show ever existed and fall in love with whatever crap they decide to put up.

[TheUnknown]

first time on boards so let me know if this is in the wrong area, but i just wanted to throw in my two cents...

I've seen a lot of posts of people saying they are fans of SG1, then they go on to say they will still watch the sci fi channel for SGA and BSG...

That directly contradicts the preliminary statement that you are a fan of the show, because a true fan cannot support the desecration of what he/she loves.

Watching other shows, after the cancellation sets terrible precedent, because then SCI-FI can go on making horrible decisions without any repercussion. Yes, its bad that SGA will take a loss of ratings, but it's a neccessary requirement, because this is the only way to teach them a lesson. And they must realize they cannot keep doing this, remember farscape *tears* (i feel bad for ben browder and claudia black, they go to farscape gets cancelled, then go to sg1, gets cancelled, someone in corporate doesnt like them)

I cannot stress the point enough, that continual viewing of the sci fi channel only serves to validate their methods and reasoning, because they will then see that fans will just get mad for a week then forget the show ever existed and fall in love with whatever crap they decide to put up.

If I was a Nielsen household, then I would stop watching other SciFi Channel stuff. Since I'm not, what I watch doesn't matter.

[Furlings187]

At this point we have about a week in half to figure somethings out about wasys to help the show out for one thing i know i will watch all the stargates until its finale for no we need to do something to help



http://www.freewebs.com/furlings187/index.htm

[janus ancient]

Well everyone

It looks like my plan to reach Conan O brein has worked. Please visit http://forums.stargateworlds.com/showthread.php?t=3627 and check out what adena of the tokra says. She is a friend of mine and a guild master for a guild of the forthcoming MMO stargate worlds. She has proven to be very truthful. I am asking for everyone help to find a transcript of this. Here is the quote.

"Actually Entertainment tonight yeterday or say before, something pre emmy was talking to conan, and HE mentioned the e-mails and letters reguarding SG-1, said he's gotten 50,000 letters about it, and said he had something planned * crosses fingers that it won't hurt too badly*
I'll see if I can hunt a htranscript or video of it"

Wow, this is great if it works, my connection told me conan has heard about it, but he has not heard if conan was planning anything. This could be great news, but i would love to see a link or transcript thanks.

[Cherriey]

This probably won't be a popular idea but I'll throw it out anyhow:

We could boycott sci-fi exclussively except for the hours when Atlantis and SG-1 come on. If they succeed in cancelling it then we could also turn off the tv completely during the time SG-1 would normally be on. If enough of us do this the ratings drops for other shows might just be enough for other channels to start pressuring sci-fi to take it back. This is probably just wishful thinking on my part as I really don't know how it works.

[schweinsty]

Oh, I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this idea, but what I did was put on a note on my SGA fic at ff.net urging other fans to come here or savestargatesg1 - and several of them did, and signed the petition, too. So if anyone else is doing a fic on ff, just put something in your author's notes; every little bit helps, after all, right? Who knows? You might inspire the letter-writer that breaks the camel's back, so to speak...

[Elles]

Well everyone

It looks like my plan to reach Conan O brein has worked. Please visit http://forums.stargateworlds.com/showthread.php?t=3627 and check out what adena of the tokra says. She is a friend of mine and a guild master for a guild of the forthcoming MMO stargate worlds. She has proven to be very truthful. I am asking for everyone help to find a transcript of this. Here is the quote.

"Actually Entertainment tonight yeterday or say before, something pre emmy was talking to conan, and HE mentioned the e-mails and letters reguarding SG-1, said he's gotten 50,000 letters about it, and said he had something planned * crosses fingers that it won't hurt too badly*
I'll see if I can hunt a htranscript or video of it"

Wow, this is great if it works, my connection told me conan has heard about it, but he has not heard if conan was planning anything. This could be great news, but i would love to see a link or transcript thanks.
Best news I've heard all week! I've been watching Conan O'Brien for the past few days to see if he's doing anything. I'll try harder to make sure I don't miss it now...

[shelma32]

Well everyone

It looks like my plan to reach Conan O brein has worked. Please visit http://forums.stargateworlds.com/showthread.php?t=3627 and check out what adena of the tokra says. She is a friend of mine and a guild master for a guild of the forthcoming MMO stargate worlds. She has proven to be very truthful. I am asking for everyone help to find a transcript of this. Here is the quote.

"Actually Entertainment tonight yeterday or say before, something pre emmy was talking to conan, and HE mentioned the e-mails and letters reguarding SG-1, said he's gotten 50,000 letters about it, and said he had something planned * crosses fingers that it won't hurt too badly*
I'll see if I can hunt a htranscript or video of it"

Wow, this is great if it works, my connection told me conan has heard about it, but he has not heard if conan was planning anything. This could be great news, but i would love to see a link or transcript thanks.



I sooo hope he does something!!!!!

[Cosmic Chicken]

I'm not too hopeful that it'll be saved.:( How many TV shows do get saved when they've already decided to cancel it? I've recently seen Star Trek get flushed into the pit of death...

:tomato:

Hey, I'm not trying to be a Grim Reaper! I'm just saying I have doubts...So go ahead! Convince me I'm wrong! I'll be happy to be proven that the odds aren't against it!:D

[Cru]

Pierre and Conan will save us all.

[shelma32]

Pierre and Conan will save us all.

We can only hope!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChuChuRocketMouse]

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[Ph03nix3]

This probably won't be a popular idea but I'll throw it out anyhow:

We could boycott sci-fi exclussively except for the hours when Atlantis and SG-1 come on. If they succeed in cancelling it then we could also turn off the tv completely during the time SG-1 would normally be on. If enough of us do this the ratings drops for other shows might just be enough for other channels to start pressuring sci-fi to take it back. This is probably just wishful thinking on my part as I really don't know how it works.

Gee, that pretty much sums up my current viewing on Sci Fi! LOL!

If we really want to get their attention, we should consider turning off not only the Sci Fi channel, but our local NBC affiliate station, as well. That's what I plan on doing - I'll be removing NBC from our TV channels the day after the last episode of SG-1 airs (unless it sticks around until the writers and actors have decided they've had enough).

I seriously considering removing Sci Fi from our channel lineup, as well, so my kids can't watch it, either. (Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, a complaint to my local cable company about 'wasting' cable with SciFi when we could get ... I dunno, somthing else. I'll have to look into what kind of channels are out there that I could ask them to replace the Sci Fi channel with ...)

[Gemini10]

I have faith.

Now I don't know the reason behind Sci Fi dropping SG-1, but I have to believe heart and soul that another network will snatch it up for Season 11. It is an absolute gold mine! The fan base is more impressive than any other show I know of. The storylines are original and entertaining. What other series is as wholesome and imaginative?

How could anyone let that go to waste? I do believe we will have SG-1 somewhere next year. There are too many people with passion for this program for it to just fade away easily.

[ljevans]

I have read a lot of posts here that basically say I don't want SG1 to be cancelled but it's a done deal. People, it ain't over till the fat lady sings!

If you don't do anything it WILL be cancelled. It costs you nothing to send an e-mail or sign an on line petition, but even better than that is to send a REAL letter. So it costs you a few minutes to type it and 37 cents to send it. Is the possibility of saving SG1 worth 37 cents to you?

Anyway, go to the official Save SG1 website and see what YOU can do, don't think someone else will do it for you!

http://savestargatesg1.com/index.php

[TheNarims]

We have already sent a whole bunch of emails to MGM and the SciFi Channel, we also signed all the petitions. Tomorrow we are going to print the mails we have written and send them to them.

Hopefully Conan does really something about it. But if there really were 50,000 mails then just imagine how many may have arrived at the scifi channel. But still we cannot stop we have to carry on fighting and never give up until there is something done and we get a new season.

[GatefansRI]

Ok the wife and I registered today because we just cant believe Sci-Fi is canceling our favorite show, SG-1 of course. Were here to help with the efforts to save SG-1.

We both have already signed the petition.

Let us know what else we can do to help.

Rick & Jeanne

[TheNarims]

You can write letters to MGM and the SciFi Channel. There is also the tissue box campaign.
You can read more about this on: http://www.savestargatesg1.com

[GatefansRI]

We'll get on it.

[Martin Lloyd]

In the "save daniel jackson" "campaign" weren't there magazine adds and general media repercussion? Where's all that now? Isn't saving SG-1 more important? C'mon now it's about saving not only Jackson but Sam and Teal'c and Mitchell and Vala and not only the characters! Let's save the story itself; the Ori arc, the replicators (they're not all gone remember?), all the races we've met... The Asgard, the Nox... Doesn't SG-1 deserve more then some internet petitions? Of course the petitions are important but they wont be enough!!! There is still a lot to be answeared... Even a lot to be asked! I don't wanna see all that die quiet... Don't anyone have connections? I would go to TV if I could but I'm not in the field... I can't believe no one knows anyone who can do something about it that will get people talking and caring... I dunno... It's a little frustrating. But that's just me.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

hey who remembers who the guy was on the gateworld forum who said the evil advanced race who had the original egyption giza stargate and they now rose to power, because i think thats a good pitch instead of the lame ori who nobody can kill

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

oh and yeah who nobody likes :P

[Dezdmona]

This probably won't be a popular idea but I'll throw it out anyhow:

We could boycott sci-fi exclussively except for the hours when Atlantis and SG-1 come on. If they succeed in cancelling it then we could also turn off the tv completely during the time SG-1 would normally be on. If enough of us do this the ratings drops for other shows might just be enough for other channels to start pressuring sci-fi to take it back. This is probably just wishful thinking on my part as I really don't know how it works.

Well, I for one don't watch Sci-Fi for anything except Stargate, SGA, and BSG.

A TV Station/Show has to earn my viewing time. The Sci-Fi Network's little "mini-movies" are so poorly done that I don't waste my time turning them on anymore.

Eureka has some promise, but I like shows set primarily in space...but are not earthbound.
The immagnative possibilities are endless with space shows.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

your basically describing star trek

[the fifth man]

I really don't have the time to check if this has aready been posted, but Don S Davis just told us something about the futrure of SGI at Dragon*Con.

You can find the info at my journal here: http://abby-i.livejournal.com/351693.html

It's nothing to take as set in stone until we hear in from MGM's mouth of course, but still, very, very encouranging.

If that's true, I'll be happy enough. Something is better than nothing IMO.:) I just don't want SG-1 to totally end with Season 10. It still has too much left to offer in terms of the current storyline.

[TheNarims]

We would rather have a new season.
As they can only do some stories in the movies and in a season with 20 episodes they can do much more. They are able to produce character episodes, action episodes or some filled with mythology.
In a movie they can also do that but we will have less hours to watch.

[Elles]

And it's a longer wait to get more sg... :(
I can hardly stand it with the Harry Potter books...

[Unamed]

In the "save daniel jackson" "campaign" weren't there magazine adds and general media repercussion? Where's all that now? Isn't saving SG-1 more important? C'mon now it's about saving not only Jackson but Sam and Teal'c and Mitchell and Vala and not only the characters! Let's save the story itself; the Ori arc, the replicators (they're not all gone remember?), all the races we've met... The Asgard, the Nox... Doesn't SG-1 deserve more then some internet petitions? Of course the petitions are important but they wont be enough!!! There is still a lot to be answeared... Even a lot to be asked! I don't wanna see all that die quiet... Don't anyone have connections? I would go to TV if I could but I'm not in the field... I can't believe no one knows anyone who can do something about it that will get people talking and caring... I dunno... It's a little frustrating. But that's just me.
this is a great idea we should start putting adverts in our local newspapers and magizines

[Cosmic Chicken]

I have read a lot of posts here that basically say I don't want SG1 to be cancelled but it's a done deal. People, it ain't over till the fat lady sings!

If you don't do anything it WILL be cancelled. It costs you nothing to send an e-mail or sign an on line petition, but even better than that is to send a REAL letter. So it costs you a few minutes to type it and 37 cents to send it. Is the possibility of saving SG1 worth 37 cents to you?

Anyway, go to the official Save SG1 website and see what YOU can do, don't think someone else will do it for you!

http://savestargatesg1.com/index.php
Well said; and very inspiring! Perhaps there is still hope! *morale boosting music plays* Perhaps there is still hope! Perhaps the fans can save--S--G--One!!!! *thousands of deafeningly cheering voices*

I still have bad feeling though :(...

[basssubboom]

G'day from Australia.

I've made up some banners to show in your signature if anyone is interested!

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-keepthelovincomin.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-contactlenses.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-undomesticatedequines.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-crush.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-whatdoyoumean.jpg

Let me know what you guys think!

[J. Stone]

Make up one with Claudia and Ben in it and I'll put it on every site I go to.

[Elles]

Hee... nice.

I like the "Sci-Fi executives, where? I shall CRUSH them!" one... :D

[chazevelt]

If anyone knows how to go about getting those plastic wrist bracelets made up, (Like the yellow ones for Lance Armstrong, and pink for Breast Cancer), selling them would add revinue to the kitty for ads, postage, etc. I know I'd buy a couple, and someday they may have collector value as well. Gate gray or black with red lettering...? Maybe a cheveron or gate symbol with "Save The Gate" on them? Anyone...?

[FoolishPleasure]

Just saw this update on fundraising efforts:

http://savestargatesg1.com/fundraising.php

[WTFOwned]

G'day from Australia.

I've made up some banners to show in your signature if anyone is interested!

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-keepthelovincomin.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-contactlenses.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-undomesticatedequines.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-crush.jpg

http://www.harrisonmusic.com.au/test/savesg1-whatdoyoumean.jpg

Let me know what you guys think!
Can someone stick these in a sig rotator?

[TheNarims]

We don't know if anyone of you has an own homepage, forum or something like this.
But if someone has one, he maybe could put one of this SaveStargateSG-1 videos or banners on his website as a sort of intro or header.
It is just an idea, we do not have an own web page and also do not know if this is possible or too expensive, but maybe it would help.

[Laura the Asgard]

The line up on Friday nights during the summer months didn't help. People are boating and going up to their cabins around our parts - so we have asked all our friends who go out - or otherwise arn't watching TV to set their TIVO's and other DVR's to the Sci Fi channel on the "Watch TV live" setting. We were just as guilty as we watched SG-1, but had the TIVO recording it at the same time so we looked like we wern't watching live. I never thought of the impact because TIVO sells those stats. Perhaps this has been suggested earlier in this thread and if it has, I apologize, but this is what we are doing.

Letters /emails help alot - especially to the sponsors - saying you saw their ad on the sci fi channel. I've mentioned Gateworld and the MGM sites because you can go out and see the number of people reading the various forums so that can help them understand the fandom this show has. Anyway - those are my two cents -- for what they are worth!

[Alright.Girl]

Does anyone have a banner that I could post on my MySpace site as well as in my signature line on my emails & other message boards that I post on?

If you do please contact me off thread.

Thanks!!!

[Rottie]

depends on what banner your looking for?:)

[TheNarims]

One member of the Stargate-project.de Forum has found a way to send faxes via email.
The address of Bonnie Hammer is: remote-printer.Bonnie_Hammer@12126643890.iddd.tpc.int

Just put it into the address line and send the email. It is for free.

It also works for other addresses. You just have to write: remote-printer.Name_of_whom_you_want_to_send_it_to@CountryaddressFaxnumber.idd d.tpc.int

We just tried it and it works!!
It is also a good idea for the people who are not from the USA as Bonnie or the others get a paper like a letter!

[Lida]

Just keep watching and keep writing. The cast and crew are really pushing for another season, so we just need to keep backing them up. All of your suggestions, as to snail mail, email and faxes are great. Just keep it up!:)

[Lida]

One member of the Stargate-project.de Forum has found a way to send faxes via email.
The address of Bonnie Hammer is: remote-printer.Bonnie_Hammer@12126643890.iddd.tpc.int

Just put it into the address line and send the email. It is for free.

It also works for other addresses. You just have to write: remote-printer.Name_of_whom_you_want_to_send_it_to@CountryaddressFaxnumber.idd d.tpc.int

We just tried it and it works!!
It is also a good idea for the people who are not from the USA as Bonnie or the others get a paper like a letter!

You got it to work? Mine didn't......it was returned. Any ideas????

[TheNarims]

We do not know. But when we send another mail it was also was also returned. Maybe they turned their fax off. We still should keep trying to send faxes because sometime they will turn it on again.
It is also possible that when we sent our mails that another fax was received. So we only have to keep on trying and if they get another fax address we will find out as we did with the other one and start faxing to this one.

[Rottie]

Yes always try again they say,never give up on the first try :)

[TheNarims]

We will never cease trying. If she wants to keep her network working she has to turn it on to receive important faxes and then we have to be there and send our messages. But as we do not know when this is going to be. We will do it always when we have the time to do it.

[Lida]

Yes always try again they say,never give up on the first try :)

OK, as Jack would say "if at first you don't suceed, try, try, try, try again....." :jack:

[Elles]

I just tried it and haven't gotten anything sent back yet.

I made sure I appologized for not sending the weekly letter I promised last week because I ran out of postage stamps...

I also made sure to thank them for supporting the show... "before they dropped it like a stone."

[Renenet]

Hello, fellow fans!

I urge everyone who lives in the US or Canada, and can spare a little time and money, to become a mailing volunteer for the ‘Save Stargate SG-1 Campaign’!

A mailing volunteer receives forwarded letters (originally written in an online email form), prints them out on a paper with a specially designed header, and mails them out to their end-address.

You decide how many letters you can mail - 5, 10, 50 or 100... - any and all help is more than welcome!

If you’re interested in helping out, please contact me at letters@savestargatesg1.com for further details.

Thank you!

Renenet
/mail-coordinator/

[Elles]

FRACK! I tried twice and it got sent back! The second time it got sent back faster!

[TheNarims]

We tried it again five minutes ago and the mail was not returned. So the fax is turned on.

[Elles]

It isn't now...

[Rottie]

OK, as Jack would say "if at first you don't suceed, try, try, try, try again....." :jack:
That's the Jack spirit:jack:

[Rottie]

Can someone stick these in a sig rotator?
I like all of them,nice banners :)

[Elles]

:indeed:

[Rottie]

It isn't now...
Well I am sorry i can't help you,I am not an expert on faxes etc,since I have never used one in my life. *red in face*:o

[Elles]

I understand...
Neither have I. :D

[Rottie]

Hahaha that's something we have in common for now:)

[Elles]

:indeed:

[Rottie]

:tealc:

[-Jules-]

Well, I sent an email... like everyone else here, I'm sure.

Nice banners! I think I'll make one too! Question, how much are the tee-shirts? A friend and I were going to make some too. :)

[FoolishPleasure]

Something drastic needs to be done asap. Last night I read all over LiveJournal that a funeral scene has recently been filmed for a reg on Atlantis.

Skiffy is already making room to move over SG1 characters! Bah!

[TheNarims]

That can't be true! I don't like the Atlantis characters but I want sg-1 to carry on on earth and not on Atlantis. The stories of SG-1 are much better than the ones of Atlantis!

So we have to fight harder. Maybe we should all send emails together at a special time.

[Elles]

Something drastic needs to be done asap. Last night I read all over LiveJournal that a funeral scene has recently been filmed for a reg on Atlantis.

Skiffy is already making room to move over SG1 characters! Bah!
How do you know they're really dead?

It could just be one of those episodes where you think they're dead but halfway through you find out they're actually in an enemy stronghold or something...

Think Fire & Water.

[TheUnknown]

How do you know they're really dead?

It could just be one of those episodes where you think they're dead but halfway through you find out they're actually in an enemy stronghold or something...

Think Fire & Water.

Yeah, I doubt that they'd kill off a cast character. It's still up in the air about whether there will be an 11th season, so they wouldn't be killing off characters for a crossover move yet.

[stargate freak 101]

hey im new here but i just want to say that i do not hink that stargate sg-1
should be takin off of the air i mean they give us ever thing we look for in a tv show. they are funny they are sad they are cool they are my heros and they have saved the world many times over and now its ur trun to save them STARGATE HAS NEVER GAVIN UP AND WILL NEVER GIVE UP Y? BECUZ THEY ARE STARGATE SG-1

[Orbital-Burn]

I'm not about to read the 85 pages to see if this was already covered.

Why in the world is the SciFi channel picking up crap like wrestling and dropping an awesome show like SG1??

There are 4 things I watch on TV, and without them, I'd drop my cable subscription all together: SG1, SGA, BSG, and eureka.

[TheNarims]

That is a very good question.
We do not really know. There are speculations. But the ratings are not to blame, because SciFi said so.
Maybe it is just because they wanted Stargate SG-1 to stop. They got the record, they got the promotion that the 200th episode brought and now they pulled the plug.
Or it is because of the money. The Scifi channel makes more money with cheaper shows like ECW than Stargate so they put it out of their programming.
But if we fight together and show MGM and the other channels who might be willing to buy Stargate that very much fans are interested in an eleventh season we can raise the chances for them to find a new network.

[Gate_Technician]

Hi, i am new here, and i agree that somthing must be done to save sg-1. i am working on writing a letter to the network executives, and i have already signed the petition.

[Cru]

The Stargate segment on Conan Obrien wasn't what I hoped it would be :(

[TheNarims]

What did he say about Stargate?

[janus ancient]

Yeah it wasnt the greatest piece, but remember they did this just as a favor. Usually they have writers plan ahead and other things. I am still happy that it was mentioned. Good work to everyone who helped make it happen. Thank you.

[Elles]

That's it? Isn't there a video clip you could show us?

Mum wouldn't let me watch! She sent me off to bed despite my constant poutings! GRR!!!

[janus ancient]

I missed it too and i am working to find a clip. I have been very sick lately and i am so mad i missed it. I mean i started the campaign only to miss the end result. LOl, just my luck. If i can find a link to the video i will post it for everyone. Once again thanks for all your help.

[Elles]

I missed it too and i am working to find a clip. I have been very sick lately and i am so mad i missed it. I mean i started the campaign only to miss the end result. LOl, just my luck. If i can find a link to the video i will post it for everyone. Once again thanks for all your help.
Ah... Irony... I've been trying to find a clip too... All I've got so far was a link to a torrent and I don't have BitTorrent... Yup.

[Rottie]

That sucks....you go through so much to see a end result only to find yourself held up ,and unable to watch the glory of it.:o

[Fatewarns]

Pierre Bernard's Recliner of Rage

reaction toward the cancelation of stargate sg-1

http://gateworld.net/news/2006/09/iconan_obrieni_notes_istargatei_.shtml

[janus ancient]

Well thanks to the great people at this site, they have posted a clip from the show. I got a call from my friend and he said the show has gotten a lot of response from that clip. In the end we can at least say we tried to save the show we love. Along with the tissue box campaign and my conan o brien campaign i think we have done a great justice to the show. We let them know we have a voice and we wanted it to be heard. Still, none of this would have been possible without gateworld, the great people here, the ancients and many others who keep sg-1 in there heart. Thank you all and may SG-1 live on in our hearts forever.

Janus
Creator of the Conan O brien to save stargate Campaign

[Elles]

Well thanks to the great people at this site, they have posted a clip from the show. I got a call from my friend and he said the show has gotten a lot of response from that clip. In the end we can at least say we tried to save the show we love. Along with the tissue box campaign and my conan o brien campaign i think we have done a great justice to the show. We let them know we have a voice and we wanted it to be heard. Still, none of this would have been possible without gateworld, the great people here, the ancients and many others who keep sg-1 in there heart. Thank you all and may SG-1 live on in our hearts forever.

Janus
Creator of the Conan O brien to save stargate Campaign
*raises glass of Synth-ale*

Hear hear... Or is it "here?"

[janus ancient]

Stargate Juice for us all!!!!!! (grape juice)

[TheNarims]

But even as it was on the Late late night show we can't cease fighting. Keep on sending emails, letters, tissue boxes and so on.
Otherwise it will look like what we did was just a burst of anger that is gone now and that would be the worst thing to happen.
Carry on showing them how much we love this show.
The appearence on the late late night show was a great success and maybe we reached more offline Stargate fans who are now stunned as we are and maybe they will start helping the campaign too.
So we also raise our glas of Stargate SG-1 juice and it a bowl of blue jello.
But still we keep on praying that it will go on.

[janus ancient]

I agree, i am still sending letters and tissues boxes. My conan Campaign is complete but we must still fight on different fronts.

[chazevelt]

I had suggested this on another link, but I'm gonna repeat myself. <Sorry>
What if we contact the advertisers? I jotted down the ads from Friday's episode, and I'm gonna start emailing short notes to each of the advertisers saying that I liked their ad that I saw during Stargate SG1 on Friday. Money talks, Folks, and it's a way to get SciFi's attention where it counts- in the pocketbook. If anyone wants the list, I'll post it for them. If no one asks, I won't take up the space.

[Farscapefan]

I had suggested this on another link, but I'm gonna repeat myself. <Sorry>
What if we contact the advertisers? I jotted down the ads from Friday's episode, and I'm gonna start emailing short notes to each of the advertisers saying that I liked their ad that I saw during Stargate SG1 on Friday. Money talks, Folks, and it's a way to get SciFi's attention where it counts- in the pocketbook. If anyone wants the list, I'll post it for them. If no one asks, I won't take up the space.

The list of advertisers was the first thing or one of the first Scapers did during our "Save Farscape" campaign 4 years ago. It's very important. Do this.

[Nightspore]

[snip]
The appearence on the late late night show was a great success and maybe we reached more offline Stargate fans who are now stunned as we are and maybe they will start helping the campaign too.
So we also raise our glas of Stargate SG-1 juice and it a bowl of blue jello.
But still we keep on praying that it will go on.

The fact is that the show's ratings dropped 25-30% in the past year. TV channels are in the business to make money. Why would they "uncancel" a show that they've determined is not all that profitable money-wise? Suppose you get 200,000 online fans to sign the petition — it's not the on-line hard-core fans that mainly stopped watching the show — it's apparently those casual viewers who found something else that interested them more. Even if the show were renewed, THOSE viewers are NOT going to suddenly start watching again. The ratings would remain basically the same. Not enough people are watching it. It is too expensive to produce.

Really, it everyone, including the actors and PTB that so sad that the show has been cancelled, why don't they all take a pay reduction to help with costs? $200,000 a year sounds really good to me. I could live nicely on that. Why can't the actors? I haven't heard ANY of the actors say their salaries are outrageous for what they do and offer to do it for less. That would help. Why doesn't MGM decide to charge Sci-Fi less? I certainly don't see Sci-Fi as being the ONLY one concerned with money in this situation.

It may well be a good excercise, therapeutic in some ways for people to try to save the show. And remember, that while MGM and PTB have said the franchise will continue in some way, they have NEVER said it was going to continue as Stargate SG-1 with the same actors. You might be petitioning for a version of Stargate without your favorite character/actor.

I'm in the group that thinks it's had a good run and like all things, must have an end. I also think that perhaps these actors might want to try their hand at something else after playing the same characters for 10 years.

[TheUnknown]

The fact is that the show's ratings dropped 25-30% in the past year.

And notice that they haven't advertised the show on any channel other than SciFi...

[Hubble]

And notice that they haven't advertised the show on any channel other than SciFi...

As long as the show has been on Sci-Fi they've never advertised it on any channel other than Sci-Fi as far as I know. Didn't seem to affect the ratings in S8 or even last year, for that matter. Channels advertise many shows repeatedly, but if they don't hold the viewers' interest, the viewer doesn't come back to watch again.

[chazevelt]

I had some time today, so I sat down and emailed nearly every advertiser I saw during last Friday's SG1. (Burger King only accepts snail-mail. Working on that one, too.) But I was surprised to get a reply from Direct TV within the hour, thanking me for my interest in their ad and noting that I mentioned Stargate SG1. That can only be good, can't it?

[schweinsty]

Just wanted to pop in and agree with everyone that, although the show was featured on the 'recliner of rage', we can't stop now...one campaign down, several to go...and I'm not stopping until they renew the show...or I accept the fact that it just had to end sometime - and that'll probably happen only when the actors start using canes and walkers at the cons. :P. Keep up the good fight, folks!

[Elles]

You know... If Sci-Fi just nurtured SG-1 a little it could potentially become better.
Sci-Fi LOVES Battlestar Galactica so much that they got Fox to play the mini-series to get more viewers. Here's an idea:
MARKET SG-1 THE WAY YOU MARKET BSG AND RATINGS WILL GO UP
But alas... they care more about BSG which on occasion quite frankly comes across to me as more of a soap opera with better lighting and actors than a Sci-Fi show... Still a good show.

Anyway. Just felt like getting that off my chest.

Just sent the press release on savestargatesg1.com to my local papers... Don't know if it'll be published though...

Yup.

[stargate freak 101]

um im sorry but just what clip r u guys talking about and if thers any thing i can do to help i will do it find it just let me no ok

[chazevelt]

Stern has said in interviews that the cancellation was not due to ratings. They want MGM to give them the show at a lower rate. IMHO SciFi dug themselves into a hole with their terrible programming choices and they see SG1 as a cash cow that will bail them out. That in itself tells me there is a lot of potential left in the series and both MGM and SciFi know it. Why else would they be holding MGM's feet to the fire with the clause that doesn't allow the series to air on any other US television station? If SG1 was drained of all possible draw, why would they care if some other channel picked it up and lost money on it?
Keep up the battle, Folks. We haven't seen the end of this. And we don't know the whole story.
BTW, some have suggested it's the actors' salaries that are swamping the show. But the biggest name, and no doubt the highest paid salary, has left: RDA. That had to have lowered the budget substancially, so that dog won't hunt, either. TPTB @ SciFi are making a power play- they figure that if MGM is making a pile of cash on DVD's and other SG1 merchandise, they want a cut.

[FoolishPleasure]

Everyone please go to the savestargate website and take their demographic survey so they can show SciFi which segments of the population are interested in the show:

http://savestargatesg1.com/demographics.php

[Hubble]

Stern has said in interviews that the cancellation was not due to ratings. They want MGM to give them the show at a lower rate. IMHO SciFi dug themselves into a hole with their terrible programming choices and they see SG1 as a cash cow that will bail them out. That in itself tells me there is a lot of potential left in the series and both MGM and SciFi know it. Why else would they be holding MGM's feet to the fire with the clause that doesn't allow the series to air on any other US television station? If SG1 was drained of all possible draw, why would they care if some other channel picked it up and lost money on it?
Keep up the battle, Folks. We haven't seen the end of this. And we don't know the whole story.
BTW, some have suggested it's the actors' salaries that are swamping the show. But the biggest name, and no doubt the highest paid salary, has left: RDA. That had to have lowered the budget substancially, so that dog won't hunt, either. TPTB @ SciFi are making a power play- they figure that if MGM is making a pile of cash on DVD's and other SG1 merchandise, they want a cut.

Yes, RDA and his big salary left the show and then they proceeded to hire Ben Browder, Claudia Black and Beau Bridges. It's probably a wash.

[TheNarims]

We almost think that Ben Browder, Claudia Black and Beau Bridges altogether cost more than Richard Dean Anderson and Don S. Davis. It was also told on a German Stargate News site that Ben Browder would be very expensive so they are spending more money on them as on RDA if he would still be doing Stargate SG-1.

And it would be understandable if the SciFi Channel wants a piece of the money MGM is making and when they did not get it they acted like a angry small child and cancelled it.

[chazevelt]

Well, you are right. I wasn't thinking about them. If Browder costs that much, then kill him off rather than killing off the series. LOL.
And wouldn't you think, when SciFi had the foresight to add in a clause restricting the airing of SG1 in the US if they didn't do it, they would have added a clause giving them a percentage of the satellite income, perhaps after it hit a certain dollar amount? The whole deal stinks.
BTW: After emailing the advertisers about the ads I saw during SG1 last Friday, more than half have already responded and they weren't form letters- they actually mentioned SG1 in the responses. Campbell's Soup even said they're sending me a coupon because they appreciate the feedback. I hope some other folks are taking a few minutes to do some emailing to the advertisers, too, to keep the SG1 name in the forefront of their minds...

[Shep]

BTW: After emailing the advertisers about the ads I saw during SG1 last Friday, more than half have already responded and they weren't form letters- they actually mentioned SG1 in the responses. Campbell's Soup even said they're sending me a coupon because they appreciate the feedback. I hope some other folks are taking a few minutes to do some emailing to the advertisers, too, to keep the SG1 name in the forefront of their minds...

told ya so.


emphasis mine

[Noneareleft]

I bet RDA made more of a salary on MacGyver than Ben Bowder does NOW, Beau Bridges makes the most of the current three, with Claudia close to Ben.

RDA has been in TV since what the 70s? Doesn't most Union contracts gurrentee a raise? Ben hasn't been in TV that long to command such a salary, aside from being Lee Majors in a miniseries and Farscape what has he done, a lot of cameos and some guest apperances?

Can the people that wrote down the advertisers list them here, with perhaps their contacts if you could.

Thanks!

[TheNarims]

We don't think that Ben Browder is very cheap because we have read in the magazine "Space View" and the official Stargate magazine that they had offered him the role of Sheppard and Pete Shanahan. But both were not wanted by him. Then they came up to him and asked if he would like to take the role of Mitchell and he took it.
So we think that they had to give them a really good fee so that he came aboard otherwise he maybe would have said "no" again.

[chazevelt]

For the folks who asked, here are the advertisers I noted during last Friday's SG1 showing at 9 PM (Eastern).
For the most part, to contact them I clicked on the 'contact us' link at the bottom of their home page. The car companies were a lot harder; most of them list a snail-mail address. Burger King only accepts snail-mail as well, but the address is pretty easy to get from their website. I didn't mention the cancellation in my emails, just that I saw/liked their ad that I saw during Stargate SG1 on the SciFi Channel on Friday. You do it however y'all think is best, but the more that contact them the better, IMHO.

IHOP
Acura RDX (Mazda.com)
Visa Check Card (leprecan ad)
Campbell's Chunky Soup
Direct TV (Both pro sports and PPV)
Hyundai Santa Fe
KFC Boneless Wings
Philly Jammin' Swirls
Long John Silvers
Sears Optical
Burger King: 5505 Blue Lagoon Dr., Miami, Florida, 33126
Chili's Triple Dipper
Fathead.com
Kia Sorento
Fruit Of The Loom

[Lida]

We don't think that Ben Browder is very cheap because we have read in the magazine "Space View" and the official Stargate magazine that they had offered him the role of Sheppard and Pete Shanahan. But both were not wanted by him. Then they came up to him and asked if he would like to take the role of Mitchell and he took it.
So we think that they had to give them a really good fee so that he came aboard otherwise he maybe would have said "no" again.

As has been pointed out by the mods many times, it is one thing to discuss a character and quite another to discuss the actual person who portrays that character. As none of us are privy to the actual salaries being received by Ben Browder, Claudia Black and Beau Bridges, as well as Michael Shanks, Christopher Judge and Amanda Tapping, perhaps we should reserve judgement and move on to more helpful suggestions as to how we can voice our displeasure to SciFi over the cancellation of SG-1.

I do not want us to continue to focus on the negative, when as angry as we might be with the SciFi channel, we really don't know everything that is involved. We can hazard guesses, but ultimately, that is all they are, guesses. I'd much rather see everyone write to SciFi, sign petitions and continue to watch the show. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, I just want the world to see us as a positive force and not a bunch of disgruntled "nutso" fans. Gateworld is read by many people, including writers, producers, actors, etc. I think all of you would like them to see us as allies and not as protagonists. :)

[FoolishPleasure]

We don't think that Ben Browder is very cheap because we have read in the magazine "Space View" and the official Stargate magazine that they had offered him the role of Sheppard and Pete Shanahan. But both were not wanted by him. Then they came up to him and asked if he would like to take the role of Mitchell and he took it.
So we think that they had to give them a really good fee so that he came aboard otherwise he maybe would have said "no" again.
Browder WAS offered the part of John Sheppard but had contractual obligations for the "Peacekeeper Wars" mini-series. I've heard rumors he didn't take the part of "Pete" because it was only a few episodes and not really worth his time to fly to Vancouver.

Obviously the Stargate PTB like Browder because they went right after him for Mitchell once he was available. We have no idea what his pay is, and it really doesn't matter. I would venture a guess and say he doesn't make as much as Shanks or Tapping since they have had 10 years of contract negotiations behind them. ;)

[Farscapefan]

We almost think that Ben Browder, Claudia Black and Beau Bridges altogether cost more than Richard Dean Anderson and Don S. Davis. It was also told on a German Stargate News site that Ben Browder would be very expensive so they are spending more money on them as on RDA if he would still be doing Stargate SG-1.

And it would be understandable if the SciFi Channel wants a piece of the money MGM is making and when they did not get it they acted like a angry small child and cancelled it.

Definitely not Claudia Black. She's Australian, not SAG member (American Screen Actors Guild) like Ben and Beau and also RDA. Claudia is probably the cheapest of all the regular cast just because of this. American actors start price is much, much higher than any actor from another country.

[Farscapefan]

As has been pointed out by the mods many times, it is one thing to discuss a character and quite another to discuss the actual person who portrays that character. As none of us are privy to the actual salaries being received by Ben Browder, Claudia Black and Beau Bridges, as well as Michael Shanks, Christopher Judge and Amanda Tapping, perhaps we should reserve judgement and move on to more helpful suggestions as to how we can voice our displeasure to SciFi over the cancellation of SG-1.


If you remember DVD commentary for Prometheus Unbound episode, Claudia herself said in it that as being Aussie, she's cheap. And it's unfortunately true, I believe she's the cheapest from all the regular cast.

[FoolishPleasure]

savestargate has enough money for a full page Variety ad!!!

http://savestargatesg1.com/news/?cat=1

[TheNarims]

That is great. :jack_new_anime07:

[Elles]

savestargate has enough money for a full page Variety ad!!!

http://savestargatesg1.com/news/?cat=1
X-cellent!!!

[Renenet]

Hello, fellow fans!

I once again need you help, so I urge everyone who lives in the US or Canada, and can spare a little time and money, to become a mailing volunteer for the ‘Save Stargate SG-1 Campaign’!

A mailing volunteer receives forwarded letters (originally written in an online email form), prints them out on a paper with a specially designed header, and mails them out to their end-address.

You decide how many letters you can mail - 5, 10, 50 or 100... - any and all help is more than welcome!

If you’re interested in helping out, please contact me at letters@savestargatesg1.com for further details.

Thank you!

Renenet
/letters-coordinator/

[J. Stone]

Just so you guy's know, there is another site that has Save Stargate SG-1 stuff on it. All profits go to the Save Stargate SG-1 campaign.

http://www.cafepress.com/savestargate11

Just so you know. :-)

[Elles]

Watch Conan O'Brien tonight.
Tonight being Tuesday night... Someone on the Yahoo Save Stargate SG-1 Group said that Pierre said that if Mark Stern didn't get the message last time, he will this time.

See, Janus... Your plan hasn't ended yet.

Ooh... and post number 1,400...

[Freekzilla]

What happened to the SAVE STARGATE SG-1 websites??? I just tried to go to two different sites and they were both gone. I just wanted to check on the status of things and look for any news, but both pages were gone. Anyone have any idea what happened???

[takinspace]

Watch Conan O'Brien tonight.Tonight being Tuesday night... Someone on the Yahoo Save Stargate SG-1 Group said that Pierre said that if Mark Stern didn't get the message last time, he will this time.
OMG... they weren't kidding... they did a little mini skit where Pierre came on in an SG-1 uniform, said the fans would take Stargate to another network, and they had Jon Lovitz fake-call Mark Stern at Conan's request to demand reinstatement of the show.

Not even *remotely* subtle... LOL

[Elles]

What happened to the SAVE STARGATE SG-1 websites??? I just tried to go to two different sites and they were both gone. I just wanted to check on the status of things and look for any news, but both pages were gone. Anyone have any idea what happened???
www.savestargatesg1.com worked for me just now... So... Yeah...

[Freekzilla]

www.savestargatesg1.com worked for me just now... So... Yeah...

Yeah but there was two other sites.

http://www.savesg1.org/ and the other I can't seem to find now. The one you mentioned, was the third and is still around.

[TheNarims]

It is great that the Conan O'Brien show does so much about Stargate. Even if it seems mostly funny they will have impact and show other offline Stargate fans what they need to do to save Stargate.


I do not want us to continue to focus on the negative, when as angry as we might be with the SciFi channel, we really don't know everything that is involved. We can hazard guesses, but ultimately, that is all they are, guesses. I'd much rather see everyone write to SciFi, sign petitions and continue to watch the show. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, I just want the world to see us as a positive force and not a bunch of disgruntled "nutso" fans. Gateworld is read by many people, including writers, producers, actors, etc. I think all of you would like them to see us as allies and not as protagonists. (Quote from something said by Lida)

We do this all. We write to SciFi more than twice a day, every Wednesday we watch the show live, we do everything SaveStargateSG1.com suggests.
But we don't think that it would have impact if we would write to the advertisers as they would not care about something written by Fans who are not really viewing their advertises as they live in Germany. So it is up to you in America to do this.

[FoolishPleasure]

Yeah but there was two other sites.

http://www.savesg1.org/ and the other I can't seem to find now. The one you mentioned, was the third and is still around.
I "think" the savesg1 website merged with savestargatesg1.

[Lida]

It is great that the Conan O'Brien show does so much about Stargate. Even if it seems mostly funny they will have impact and show other offline Stargate fans what they need to do to save Stargate.



We do this all. We write to SciFi more than twice a day, every Wednesday we watch the show live, we do everything SaveStargateSG1.com suggests.
But we don't think that it would have impact if we would write to the advertisers as they would not care about something written by Fans who are not really viewing their advertises as they live in Germany. So it is up to you in America to do this.

I am amazed by the response of so many people to the cancellation of SG-1 and those at Savestargatesg-1. com have been doing a fantastic job to raise awareness. I wish I could be more positive, but I'm beginning to have a hard time. From past experience, we all know that SciFi has made several large programing blunders.....I know there are some here who would disagree and think that SG-1 should have been cancelled sooner. I still have to disagree, despite my reservations about the storyline this season. I was more than willing to give tptb another season to get the show moving in a better direction. Well, they are currently shooting the third to last episode, and as the days tick by, I find myself getting less and less optimistic about the future for the series. I don't think a TV movie or mini-series will do it for me......oh well.

Yes, it's up to us in America to deal with the show's sponsors, but past efforts trying to appeal to advertisers, to save a series, has not helped. I hate to say this, but it's really out of our hands now. If ratings were the real reason SciFi cancelled, then people, by not watching, have sealed the show's fate. However, I have this very funny feeling SciFi was not alone when this decision was made....and don't ask me why I feel this way, I just do. OK, I'm rambling. Sorry....

[FoolishPleasure]

Last chance to take the demographic survey over at savestargatesg1:

http://savestargatesg1.com/demographics.php

They are getting swamped and forced to close today.

[Elles]

Attention Coloradans!

Someone on the Save Stargate SG-1 Yahoo group recommended that we do organized protests.

I'm trying to find a fair amount of SG fans in the Denver area or anyone who's willing to come down to Denver to do a small protest.

I don't know when we'll do it yet, I just want to find as many fans as I can but I'm thinking we could do it in front of the 9 News studio since they're part of NBC. It would also be a good way to get media attention.

So just post... or pm me... Yup.

[chazevelt]

For what it's worth, I set up my Pogo mini with a Save Stargate SG1 message... LOL!

[janus ancient]

I have heard rumors that conan did anothing stargate sg-1 segement last night. Where him and and a well known actor called the president of sci-fi and did some comlaning. Can anyone please confirm this thanks.

[HirogenGater]

I read that fans collected enough $$$ to put an ad in Variety.

[janus ancient]

Everyone i have found the link for the NEW skit Conan O brien did for stargate a night ago at http://www.nbc.com/Late_Night_with_Conan_O'Brien/index.shtml and go to the video section and playu save stargate sg-1 near the end. from 9/12/2006 he got john lovits to call SCi_fi NEtwork it was a entire skit for sg-1. Thanks to everyone for the hard work.

GO CONAN

[Jaguar127]

HELP SAVE SG1 BY SIGNING THIS PETITION...

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/SaveStargateSG1

Together We can Beat the Ori!

[janus ancient]

One of my friends from the Guild the Tok'ra sent me this information

"Indeed. and Conan has the tendancy when he's on to something to have it come up off and on for a few weeks, so expect alot more, and someone supposedly close to bernard stated on another forum that this was just the start of it"

Lets keep pounding away everyone. the war has just began.

[pattirose]

Everyone i have found the link for the NEW skit Conan O brien did for stargate a night ago at http://www.nbc.com/Late_Night_with_Conan_O'Brien/index.shtml and go to the video section and playu save stargate sg-1 near the end. from 9/12/2006 he got john lovits to call SCi_fi NEtwork it was a entire skit for sg-1. Thanks to everyone for the hard work.

GO CONAN

Thanks for posting that, I enjoyed seeing it. It would be great if they really did put in a call to Sci-fi! I think this is only the beginning. I'm gonna go see if I can email the show and thank them.

[janus ancient]

Yes Please write the show and let them know you appriacate what they are doing for us. You can search for the conan o brien cmapaign to get addresses. Keep the fightr alive