What can the fans do to help SAVE SG-1?

[Reality Distortion Field]

Who are the advertisers? I watch both shows "live", but when commercials start, I mute the TV and go online to chat. So I have no idea what's advertised.
Here are the advertisers for SciFi Inside and 200.

SciFi Inside: Big Lots, Olive Garden, Staples, Kia, Quiznoz, Ask.com Sprint, Capital One, Cingular, Advance Auto Parts, Allstate, Colonial Pen Insurance, Universal: Idlewild movie

200: Planters, Pfizer, KFC, Kia, Kraft, Big Lots, Master Card, Olive Garden, Visa, Loctite PowerGrab, FedEx, IHOP, Burger King, Cingular, Dannon, Farmers Insurance, Access Diabetic Supplies, Warner Brothers: The Wicker Man movie, Universal: Accepted movie & Surface DVD, Lionsgate: Crank movie

Here's the contact info I found. Some are email addresses, snail mail, and online comment submision forms. I couldn't find contact info for some of the companies, if anyone has info for them post it or let me know and I'll update my post.

Big Lots: <http://www.biglots.com/contactus.asp>
Pfizer: <http://www.pfizer.com/pfizer/contact/mn_contact.jsp>
Olive Garden: <http://www.olivegarden.com/company/contact_us/>
Staples: <http://www.staples.com/sbd/content/help/contact/other_quest.html?storeId=10001&cm_ven=Glamour&cm_ite=emailus>
Kia: <http://ksupport.kiausa.com/ConsumerAffairs/PortalJSP/Portal.jsp?t=8%3A8%3A41+23%2F2006+>
Advance Auto Parts: <http://www.advanceautoparts.com/english/contact/contact.asp>
Allstate: <https://messaging.allstate.com/Corp/Corp_ProcessEmail.asp>
Universal: <http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_form.cgi?email_id=9>
Planters: <http://www.planters.com/contactus/contact.aspx?m=/contactus/cu_form2&age=2&coppa=False&prod=True&sub=234>
Kraft: <http://www.kraftfoods.com/main.aspx?m=contact_us/cu_form1>
Loctite: <http://www.loctiteproducts.com/contact/>

FedEx Customer Relations
3875 Airways, Module H3 Department 4634
Memphis, TN 38116

IHOP Corp.
450 N. Brand Blvd.
Glendale, CA 91203

Dannon Consumer Response Center
P.O. Box 90296
Allentown, PA 18109-0296
<http://www.dannon.com/dn/dnstore/cgi-bin/FeedbackForm.htm>

Farmers.com
4680 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90010
<http://www.farmers.com/FarmComm/servlet/farmersController?COMMAND=CMD_SHOW_CONTACT_US_INPUTS_PAGE>

Access Diabetic Supply
2101 NW 33rd St, Suite 2000
Pompano Beach, FL, 33069
questions@freeglucosemeter.com

KFC
P.O. Box 725489
Atlanta GA 31139
<http://www.kfc.com/contact.htm>

Quiznos: <http://www.quiznos.com/contact.asp>
Quiznos Corporate Office
1475 Lawrence Street, Suite 400
Denver, Colorado 80202

Ask.com Headquarters
555 12th Street, Suite 500
Oakland, CA 94607
tel: (510) 985-7400
fax: (510) 985-7412

Sprint
Corporate Headquarters
2001 Edmund Halley Drive
Reston, VA 2019

Colonial Penn: <https://www.colonialpenn.com/Web/Common/ContactUsEmail.aspx>
Colonial Penn Life Insurance Company
399 Market Street
Philadelphia, PA 19181

[Casanova]

Here is a little trivia for ya.
The television show, Bonanza was on air for 15 seasons. Yes, it was a western, but it lasted longer in seasons. And many of the original stars left and new actors were brought in. Just like SG-1, has seen in season 9 to season 10. Richard Dean Anderson, Don S. Davis, and Teryl Fraiser left the show and new actors were brought in.

I concur. just look at the Simpsons. It's starting year/season 18 next month. They haven't introduced any new regular characters since season 12. FOX wants them to continue indefinitely, having renewed their contract till season 20, and planning to renew it even further when the new season starts (Matt Groening wants to do 40 seasons). One of the best qualities of enduring entertainment is adaptability. Sg-1 needs to adapt a bit more for all the fans, perhaps the Stargate Command idea isn't all that bad. I think it'd be great to have the show with a declassified Stargate program, with an international command (like Atlantis) and put Daniel in charge. I'd love to see what the stargate program would be like if the whole world got fully involved. perhaps we'd build up a big starfleet. maybe the people of earth would, learning of a dangerous foe bent on their total destruction, be more likely to stand united. we already know SG is not our reality (or is it?:) ). perhaps a Tau'ri nation would be plausible?

If anyone can understand my rambling and have any good (non-pessimistic) ideas, I'm sure we'd all love to hear.

hooroo!!
casa

[Shep]

Thank you Shep for coming to my defense and helping to make my point. And thank you to everyone else that is willing to see my point.

I am by no means saying give up the fight I just think we'll be better off if we wait for the producers to make their announcement to see where things are going and then get behind that.

I would personally rather see the show go out while still great and not fade away because it went on too long. But if it does get picked up by another network I will still watch it because I love the show.

My pleasure. You've got the gist of it. Keep at it. Even if you have to do it by PM work to convince people one at a time. Get them to then go out and convince others one at a time.

Expand the fan base. Tell the advertisers they are reaching their consumers. Work to give the producers proof of the viability of the franchise. Stargate is poised to be the Star Trek of the 21st century. Help them make that happen because you, the fans, are the only ones with the power to do that. Help them be able to take risks, to tell the bigger story, to expand the universe that they've created into another cultural phenomenon. They're where they are today because of you, the fans. Take them the rest of the way.


Somebody put this girl in charge. Seriously.

[Shep]

Here are the advertisers for SciFi Inside and 200.

SciFi Inside: Big Lots, Olive Garden, Staples, Kia, Quiznoz, Ask.com Sprint, Capital One, Cingular, Advance Auto Parts, Allstate, Colonial Pen Insurance, Universal: Idlewild movie

200: Planters, Pfizer, KFC, Kia, Kraft, Big Lots, Master Card, Olive Garden, Visa, Loctite PowerGrab, FedEx, IHOP, Burger King, Cingular, Dannon, Farmers Insurance, Access Diabetic Supplies, Warner Brothers: The Wicker Man movie, Universal: Accepted movie & Surface DVD, Lionsgate: Crank movie

GOOD WORK! now go find all of their emails and snail mails and update your post.

:::high fives you:::

[memnarch]

without SG1 and SGA, there is NO reason to watch SciFi channel.

Exactly! Battlestar Galactica is a derivative, over hyped, pathetic excuse for sci fi! If Sci Fi thinks they'll carry their network with it, they're sorely mistaken.

[Elles]

GOOD WORK! now go find all of their emails and snail mails and update your post.

:::high fives you:::
I'm looking up the contact information for advertisers of 200 right now, shouldn't take too long.

[Elles]

Hm... Not as easy or fast as I expected... I'm about halfway done but I thout I'd post what I have now because the sooner, the better. Someone might want to proofread what I have so far. It's been so hard finding contact information it must be just because I missed something...
Contact info-
Planters (could only find phone number for weekdays)-
1-877-MRPEANUT (877-3265)

Pfizer-
Corporate Mailing Address
235 East 42nd Street
NY, NY 10017

KFC-
Numbers-
U.S. - 1-800-225-5532
Canada - 1-866-664-5696
Address:
P.O. Box 725489
Atlanta GA 31139

Kraft-
http://www.kraftfoods.com/main.aspx?m=contact_us/cu_form1
Couldn’t find anything else but it’s good for directly sending them comments.

Big Lots-
http://www.biglots.com/contactus.asp
Also couldn’t find anything better…

Master Card-
Couldn’t find much of squat.

Olive Garden-
http://www.olivegarden.com/company/contact_us/
Same as Kraft + Big Lots…

Staples-
1-800-3STAPLE
http://www.staples.com/sbd/content/help/contact/other_quest.html?storeId=10001&cm_ven=Glamour&cm_ite=emailus

Kia-
1.800.333.4542

Quiznos-
Quiznos Corporate Office
1475 Lawrence Street, Suite 400
Denver, Colorado 80202

Ask.com-
Didn’t find much of squat either…

Sprint-
Corporate Headquarters 2001 Edmund Halley Drive
Reston, VA 20191
703-433-4000

Capital One-
Didn’t find much of squat either…

Cingular-
This number’s for International service questions… but it’s the one that applied best.
1-800-335-4685

Advance Auto Parts-
http://www.advanceautoparts.com/english/contact/contact.asp

Allstate-
https://messaging.allstate.com/Corp/Corp_ProcessEmail.asp

Colonial Penn Insurance-
1-877-877-8052
Colonial Penn Life Insurance Company
399 Market Street
Philadelphia, PA 19181

[senorgate]

As a fan, what can I do to help save SG1? I hate to just sit and wait for Scifi to cancel the series.

[PG15]

Ok, so what exactly do we tell these people?

Shep has already pointed out that saying that you will boycott their stuff won't work so (stupid as it sounds) what else is there?

[Elles]

Ok, so what exactly do we tell these people?

Shep has already pointed out that saying that you will boycott their stuff won't work so (stupid as it sounds) what else is there?
Something along the lines of... "I saw your advertisement while watching Stargate: SG-1 and it motivated me to buy your product(s). Thanks for supporting my show." Here's the rest of what little contact info I could find... Didn't find anything on Universal or Warner...
Contact info-
Visa-
AskVisaUSA@visa.com

Loctite Power Grab-
(800) 321-0253
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/contact/

FedEx-
I honestly have no idea which one we should contact…
http://www.fedex.com/us/customersupport/

IHOP-
818-240-6055

450 N. Brand Blvd.
Glendale, CA 91203-1903

Burger King-
5505 Lagoon Drive
Miami, Florida 33126
305-378-7200

Dannon-
1-877-DANNONUS (1-877-326-6668
Dannon Consumer Response Center
P.O. Box 90296
Allentown, PA 18109-0296

Farmers Insurance-
http://www.farmers.com/FarmComm/servlet/farmersController?COMMAND=CMD_SHOW_CONTACT_US_INPUTS_PAGE
(208)-239-8400
4680, Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90010

Access Diabetic Supply-
http://www.diabeticsupply.com/contact.asp

I'm going to go turn in now...

[Shep]

Ok, so what exactly do we tell these people?

Shep has already pointed out that saying that you will boycott their stuff won't work so (stupid as it sounds) what else is there?

What's not to get? As I've said already, tell them you saw their ads on Stargate. Tell them you use/own their product if you do. Tell them that you support Stargate as a franchise in whatever form that is [that includes SGA, btw] and you hope that they will too.

When KFC sponsored Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars it was because we innundated them in love. We did a project where everyone ate there for however long, and then all sent their receipts in to KFC as proof. One of our artists even did a themed drawing of The Colonel, along with all the principle characters and creators of the show, made it a poster, and sent it in as a gift. We put a link up on our site to their company webpage as a supporter of Farscape. They reciprocated in kind, and did a whole page dedicated to us. And then they sponsored the miniseries.

You can't bully people into that, but you can buy them into it. They exist to reach you as a potential customer. Prove to them every single week that they have succeeded.

[PG15]

I guess that would only work if you live in the US then? I mean, I wouldn't have seen their ads otherwise.

[Shep]

I guess that would only work if you live in the US then? I mean, I wouldn't have seen their ads otherwise.

It doesn't matter where you live if you've seen their ads. The point is that you've seen their ads. It's not any more complicated than that. If you watch in Canada, then it's Canadian ads. If you watch in Finland, then it's Finnish ads. Who cares. Some of the ads are going to transnational. They sell Bud Light in Canada, don't they? Bud's been running a hilarious ad with the aboriginal guy willing to do anything to get the beer. Tell them you love their ad...if you've seen it and do, of course.


Elles,

good job on that info collection, but you should probably label that cut so folks know what's under it.

[PG15]

Right, I'll try that next time I watch SG1 over here.

[Shep]

Right, I'll try that next time I watch SG1 over here.

Awesome. Maybe you can start collecting the ad info for the Canuck fans, even? Got any of the eps from 9 or 10 on tape? Pull the info off those. Hell, pull the info off older seasons if you still have them on tape. Maybe there are advertisers that don't any more, because they thought they weren't reaching their audience. If you buy their products, remind them that they used to advertise on Stargate, a show you love and franchise you support, and that you are one of their customers. Tell two friends. And so on.

[PG15]

No tapes, but SG1 airs at least once a day over here, so I'll have plenty of time to get those ads recorded.

Then I'll try to post them on here.

[Queen_Bee]

hey guys dont know if anyone has mentioned this

if anyone has got youtube accounts, go here and put it in your favourites
hopefully this will speak out a little
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eLooaLVAIk
Bee

[Mousie]

There are umpteen threads about this already in the general stargate discussion forum - have a look in there if you want to discuss this subject. :cameron:

[plaw15]

where can we send those tissue boxes? I could look but there is so many threads all based on the same thing it would take to long.

[DeadSurvivor]

I'd Write To Those In Charge Of Sci-Fi Programming And MGM. As Far As Writing Or Mailing The Advertisers, I Think It's Going A Bit Far. If I Were A Sponsor And Was Flooded With Save SG-1 Mail, Most Of Which Will Be Nasty In Haste, I'd Rethink Sponsoring The Franchise ... I'd Be Afraid, An SG Show Requires Teal'C To Skin An Animal To Keep From Freezing To Death. SG Viewers Will Get Offended And Complain To Animal Activists. Let's Be Proactive But Not Take It Too Far.

The Slowing Down Or Rebranding Of A Franchise Is Not Our Job, It's Theirs. They Will Need Ad Revenue From Commercials. If We Scare Off The Advertisers, We'll Be Watching ReRuns For The Next 10 Years.

[jeb]

It's gateworld, people have connections around here. What about we wait for producers to give us a clear stance on what their aim is -and with whom- before we start spamming advertisers ?

(besides of the obvious watching the show live/ordering Season 9).

[Shep]

It's gateworld, people have connections around here. What about we wait for producers to give us a clear stance on what their aim is -and with whom- before we start spamming advertisers ?

(besides of the obvious watching the show live/ordering Season 9).


Sending polite postcards to advertisers telling them that you've seen their ads, use or own their products and hope they continue to support the show that you've seen their ads on is not spam. It's telling them that they are, in fact, reaching their target audience.

[IcyNeko]

New Video is UP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeyl-oasHJ8

If link doesn't work yet, it's cuz Youtube's taking their sweet time processing it. Be patient and it'll load. :)

[ZakeD]

Awesome video. :jack_new_anime07:

[iLemon]

I doubt anything is going to change their minds so why continue sending letters to a lost cause? Wouldn't it be better if you sent a letter to a network that could pick up SG1? Give them some encouragement?

Just a thought.

[michey]

Another way to help the show, Everyone who can, pre-order season 9, it's due for release in October.
But pre-ordering will show MGM how keen and large the fanbase is.

Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HEZEY6/sr=8-13/qid=1156417296/ref=sr_1_13/002-4434257-3276023?ie=UTF8)
Only the U.S. can pre-order at the moment unfortunatly

[michey]

sending letters to sci fi could help, but i would suggest most people put their efforts into sending letters to mgm, other netwroks, advertisors from the show, comnan o'brian, magazines etc

[ubiquitous1]

What are they going to replace it with? Wrestling?


Not a good move on the part of Sci-fi

[Edmond Woychowsky]

That's exactly the wrong idea/approach. If anyone followed the Farscape effort, it was the building of the relationships WITH the advertisers that, in part, helped get the mini-series made and many of those same advertisers bought commercial spots.

It's the advertisers that actually pay for a show. Now IF the ratings go back up and one has a relationship with the advertisers, let the advertisers be your spokesperson to extend a show. They carry a lot more weight/influence to a network/studio than any fan effort/protest. It's all about money and reaching certain age demographics. The SG demographics are well known and there's no guarentee a new or replacement programming will do better in the same time slot. If the advertisers are happy with a show, the network/studio is happy to produce/air more episodes.

If anybody remembers, when SG moved to the SFC, the producers wrote each season as if it was going to be the last and was ready to move the franchise to feature films. Fans knew the series would end sooner or later and was happy to get whatever seasons they could, but it was the "bad" timing of the announcement that brings a bitter taste to SG fans. The SFC could have waited until Oct/Nov like they usually do to make the announcement for renewal/cancellation. As it is, it seems the SFC didn't give SG the proper kudos/respect it deserves for being it's flagship series for the past 4-5 years. Just look at some of the older threads before the announcement when SG fans themselves noted and expressed fear over the possible cancellation of SG1. As early as the Comic-Con, the SFC was asking people/fans to watch SG1 live. So the SFC knew back then the series may have been on it's last legs and good ratings would be the only way to save the show and avoid NBC's edict that older, "mature" shows be axed to save money in favor of new programming with their lower costs.

There are many threads blasting the SFC for their decision, BUT is there anybody left with the same feelings towards Showtime when they cancelled SG1 5 years ago?
The wonderful thing about the Web is that it offers one some degree of anonymity. Unless somebody uses his or her real name, as do I, one can only guess as to the identity of another. For example, with a pseudonym of Sci-Fi I could guess that you are either a fan of science fiction or an employee of the Sci Fi Channel. Which is it? From the contents of your position I’m going to assume the later.

One thing to remember the Streisand Effect, the more you try to suppress something the more widespread it becomes.

[Neorapsta]

Your best bet is to boycott Scifi channel programs rather than advertisers. If their ratings drop enough post SG1 they may reconsider as all their funding will dry up.

[Edmond Woychowsky]

Contacting the advertisers beforehand with a proclamation as to why they’re going to be boycotted would cause them to contact Sci Fi. It is kind of hard for the evil genius that made this decision to escape with one group of villagers at the front door, the fans, and a second group at the back door, the advertisers. The best part is that we don’t even need pitchforks or torches; we can let our money do the talking instead.

[janus ancient]

P.S. PLEASE SPREAD THIS AROUND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO IS TRYING TO SAVE STARGATE SG-1. SEND IT TO EVERY SITE. YOU HAVE MY PREMISSION TO RE POST THIS ON ANY THREAD YOU LIKE. THANK YOU.

Conan O Brien CAMPAIGN TO SAVE STARGATE SG-1

This is a plan to help save Stargate SG-1 from being cancelled in the hope that the network will realize the mistake it is making. Even if we can just get the attention of another network then our job will be done. The reason it is called the Conan O Brien campaign is because the Sci-Fi network gets thousands and thousands of letters a day about saving shows and other fan mail alike. Most of the time they will not be read and tossed away. This is why we are taking a strange and different approach. The media is the most powerful form of advertising that exists today and we shall tap into this powerful media to help save the show that means so much to us.

The reason Conan O Brian was chosen is because I have connections within his show and his history with making things happen in a strange way. Conan actually has much more influence then many people know. People love him and he has taken many little skits and made things happen from them. He has even influenced the re-election of the prime mister of Finland. He has also been known to introduce crazy campaigns, while starting out as a skit, which usually become a cult following down the road.

Also, he has done two Stargate specials, which increased awareness about the show. Below will be the plans to help save the show we all love so much. I ask that if you love the show and want to try to save it, then help me and the ancients to save SG-1 since they have saved us so many times. Thank you. Below will be the steps and instructions included the letter, mailing information, and etc. Please follow all instructions to the letter and do not edit, change or add anything else to the letter.


STEPS ONE: Please copy and paste this letter into your word program. Then fill in your information in areas with (). Once this is done then please print this letter out and mail it to the address below. Also make sure the envelope you mail it in reads the same as the mailing address. Do not change any part of the letter except for the parts where your information goes. There is a marketing reason for this.


To: Late Night with Conan O'Brien-Save Stargate SG-1
NBC 30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York City, NY 10112

From: (Put your name and mailing information here)

Dear Conan O Brien,

WE NEED YOUR HELP TO SAVE STARGATE SG-1 FROM BEING CANCELLED MR. O' Brien
Sorry for all the capital letters, but we needed to grab your
attention. As you can see from the above statement we need your help in
attempting to save a show that is loved by us and Pierre Bernard,
Stargate SG-1, which has just been announced for cancellation after a record
breaking 10 seasons and 200 Episodes, setting a world record. The
viewers are there, but the Nielsen ratings don't tell the whole story as
you know, though that is why they claim they are ending the show, after
it had just started a new story line with new added cast members. This
show helped to make the SCI-FI Channel a major player and they have
admitted it. We have all been fans of your show since the beginning and
know that you have gained great influence over time, such as getting a
prime minister re-elected in addition to other impressive feats. Your
skits have become cult classics to many of the younger generation 27 and
under. We also know you have presented two Stargate specials with Pierre
Bernard, which helped the show generate lots of buzz.

We just need your help in creating the Conan O Brien to Save SG-1
Campaign. We know how much you like to talk about nerds and this is your big
chance. If you could just in your crazy Conan way find someway to help
out by doing a skit on this or mentioning it on air for a second then
you could help millions of fans. As you read this, you will soon be
receiving thousands of letters from many countries all saying the same
thing as this letter. We are doing this because we know the power of the
media and the influence you do have. We will not presume to tell you how
to do your job, but if there is anything you can do to raise the
awareness of Stargate SG-1, then you will have done your part in the official
Conan O Brien to Save SG-1 campaign. You are our only hope for one more
season, Mr. O' Brien. We need the power of your red hair to save us.
PLEASE HELP TO SAVE STARGATE SG-1 CAMPAIGN. If you have any questions
you may reach the leaders of this campaign at joshbhou2002@yahoo.com or falconenator@yahoo.com.

Thank you

Sincerely,

(place your name here)




STEP TWO-SENDING A LETTER TO PIERRE BERNARD-This letter is to be sent two days after the first letter you sent along with the e-mail. This is to be addressed to Pierre Bernard. Please use the same letter above for this step, but change the mailing address and envelope information to:

Pierre Bernard c/o Late Night with Conan O'Brien
Save Stargate SG-1 Campaign
NBC 30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York City, NY 10112

STEP THREE:
Please repeat this process every two days. That is all there is to it. We have to just wait and see what happens. My inside man will keep me informed of the situation and call me if anything happens. I will keep all of you updated as well. Thank you for your help and know you are doing something to save the show.

Am reposting because it looks like the main thread was moved or got lost. Thank you all for your help.

You may also visit www.alteranancients.com which is the base for this campaign. Thank you.

[teknikal]

this is a cool idea.i remembered the sketches they did ( we actually go to see them before the provider over here in ireland changed the channel).i am linking this and posting it on bebo...there are so many fans there.

[Jordan]

I Have made a petition to help keep Stargate SG-1 on the air!! Please sign it and tell everyone about it so we can get as many signatures as possible.!!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stargatesg1/index.html

SAVE SG-1!!!!:jack:

[zantri]

hiya

do u kno there is already a petition? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Stargate/index.html

[Jordan]

Ya i just made it last night and i never knew there was another one till after i made it....and i didnt want it to go to waste.

[zantri]

nm

its the thought that counts :)
seems to be doing quite well tho (14,400)!

[teknikal]

ive posted around bebo..hopefully. i wont get in trouble for harrassing people!!
went to yourtaxdollarsatwork but..there is a lil fight goin on so..

[Sci-Fi]

The wonderful thing about the Web is that it offers one some degree of anonymity. Unless somebody uses his or her real name, as do I, one can only guess as to the identity of another. For example, with a pseudonym of Sci-Fi I could guess that you are either a fan of science fiction or an employee of the Sci Fi Channel. Which is it? From the contents of your position I’m going to assume the later.

One thing to remember the Streisand Effect, the more you try to suppress something the more widespread it becomes.

Sci-Fi has been a nickname for me for over 40 years because of my enjoyment and support of the genre. Yes...I'm that old and I don't work for any network, advertiser, or ratings corp.

Angry fandoms have a tendency to express their anger at anything and everyone and hope something sticks. Any effort has to be focused, organized, and more importantly, positive and professional in their campaign. Also, one never knows if the same network will be the one that airs the "saved" show or a mini-series/movie....see Farscape, Roswell, etc.

That being said, IF you really feel my advise/position/observations is negative and doesn't work/make sense, then by all means do what you feel is the right thing and find out the hard way like many other failed efforts have. You have the right to make that decision on your own.

[IcyNeko]

Contacting the advertisers beforehand with a proclamation as to why they’re going to be boycotted would cause them to contact Sci Fi. It is kind of hard for the evil genius that made this decision to escape with one group of villagers at the front door, the fans, and a second group at the back door, the advertisers. The best part is that we don’t even need pitchforks or torches; we can let our money do the talking instead.

Erm... no. You're just going to harrass the advertisers who don't care about SG-1 and will ignore your phone calls/emails.

[Jordan]

nm

its the thought that counts :)
seems to be doing quite well tho (14,400)!


Well congrats! Maybe mine will have as much sucsess:jack:

[Lillgreen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eLooaLVAIk
Bee


that is an awsome vid clip as is the version 2 of the save sg1 clip.

[zantri]

I agree!!!

there have been alot of really great clips lately

[IcyNeko]

Heh. Thanks ;)

For me, this is a two-purpose thing.. I get to promote Stargate (always a plus), as well as hone in my skills on movie-editting. Though... these were both kind of a rush job thing, but still... glad you guys liked it. :D

[teknikal]

Heh. Thanks ;)

For me, this is a two-purpose thing.. I get to promote Stargate (always a plus), as well as hone in my skills on movie-editting. Though... these were both kind of a rush job thing, but still... glad you guys liked it. :D

brilliant..brilliant video..music...just perfect for it

this from tvguide.com
http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000044

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/default.htm?rmDate=08232006&cmsGuid={1D34F028-6983-4C7B-BD8B-B4C97EEC13FA}

all im saying..never under estimate the power of stargate fans

[Kaylandra_]

Ok.. first off, I am so disgusted w/ the SCI FI network, I can't say it in here. If these blattering idiots would get thier collective heads outa thier butts, and take a world wide look at the HUGE fanbase this show has, ... but that would be wishful thinking!

So what do we diehard SG1 fans do?? The same thing diehard FARSCAPE fans did!! (Ironic that Ben and Claudia have to go through this again). Do everything we have to and get somebody to take up our cause!

There are sure to be many many petition sites.. SIGN THEM ALL!!

If any group of fans can get this show home to stay in Canada, its us!!

[Shep]

Originally Posted by Edmond Woychowsky
Contacting the advertisers beforehand with a proclamation as to why they’re going to be boycotted would cause them to contact Sci Fi. It is kind of hard for the evil genius that made this decision to escape with one group of villagers at the front door, the fans, and a second group at the back door, the advertisers. The best part is that we don’t even need pitchforks or torches; we can let our money do the talking instead.



Erm... no. You're just going to harrass the advertisers who don't care about SG-1 and will ignore your phone calls/emails.

yes and no. they care about a show that they spent ad money on, in that they cared enough to think it could reach their target audience in the first place. but yes, boycotting advertisers IS A BAD IDEA. again, you aren't going to get a positive result from a negative action.

seriously, folks, get that into your head. the advertisers are your allies.

[Jordan]

Ok.. first off, I am so disgusted w/ the SCI FI network, I can't say it in here. If these blattering idiots would get thier collective heads outa thier butts, and take a world wide look at the HUGE fanbase this show has, ... but that would be wishful thinking!

So what do we diehard SG1 fans do?? The same thing diehard FARSCAPE fans did!! (Ironic that Ben and Claudia have to go through this again). Do everything we have to and get somebody to take up our cause!

There are sure to be many many petition sites.. SIGN THEM ALL!!

If any group of fans can get this show home to stay in Canada, its us!!

That is a great Idea!!

[mckaysgirl]

yes and no. they care about a show that they spent ad money on, in that they cared enough to think it could reach their target audience in the first place. but yes, boycotting advertisers IS A BAD IDEA. again, you aren't going to get a positive result from a negative action.

seriously, folks, get that into your head. the advertisers are your allies.

Exactly working with the people who support our show(s) will make more of an impact than boycotting.

[iheartvala]

an information site has been put up at http://www.savesg-1.com/ with links to the petition, and other campaign ideas, as well as a forum for discussion. please check it out if you are looking for how you can help!

[the fifth man]

Well, I emailed and wrote Sci-Fi Channel, letting them know what a bonehead decision I think they made regarding SG-1. I also plan on writing to MGM, letting them know just how much I'd like SG-1 to continue, in any way, shape, or form (new series name, mini-series, etc.) I've also signed several online petitions. I think that's about all we can really do.

[Fatewarns]

Well, I emailed and wrote Sci-Fi Channel, letting them know what a bonehead decision I think they made regarding SG-1. I also plan on writing to MGM, letting them know just how much I'd like SG-1 to continue, in any way, shape, or form (new series name, mini-series, etc.) I've also signed several online petitions. I think that's about all we can really do.

your a perfect example for what a gatehead should do. hope your letter to sci-fi is polite

who to send letters to, first three most important I think

Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,

New York, NY, 10112 Charles Cohen, Executive Vice President

MGM Television Entertainment,
10250 Constellation Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA, 90067

Stargate SG-1 Productions
Bridge Studios
2400 Boundary Rd, Burnaby, BC
Canada, V5M 3Z3

[Minder]

So far I have sent off an empty Tissue box to SciFi labeled "SEND MORE SG-1"
I have written to the Conan Obrien campagin, and I have written and emailed my local station "SPACE" here in canada to try to get them involved.

I plan to continue doing this every week until we win.

My buddy made up another picture that you can all get made into postcards if you wish to send them to Sci Fi
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/MinderSW/Misc/card.jpg

Please spread it around!

[ZakeD]

Thought people would like to know that the petition has reached 15000 signatures. :jack:

[Minder]

Well, I emailed and wrote Sci-Fi Channel, letting them know what a bonehead decision I think they made regarding SG-1. I also plan on writing to MGM, letting them know just how much I'd like SG-1 to continue, in any way, shape, or form (new series name, mini-series, etc.) I've also signed several online petitions. I think that's about all we can really do.


That is a great start, but it is not all that we can do.

Join the Tissue Box campagin, and keep sending letters every week. They need to be flooded with letters and emails, and phone calls.

[janus ancient]

yes and no. they care about a show that they spent ad money on, in that they cared enough to think it could reach their target audience in the first place. but yes, boycotting advertisers IS A BAD IDEA. again, you aren't going to get a positive result from a negative action.

seriously, folks, get that into your head. the advertisers are your allies.


I agree with Shep 100% the last thing you want to do is boycott. As shep and i have said earlier writing letters to the advertisers is a great way to show support and to also watch stargate sg-1 and atlantis live. The ad people are the ones in the end who you need to support. ALong with mailing positive stuff, the advertsiters and the media you can bring a show back to life.

Also, i want to say THANK YOU to everyone showing support for the campaign i am getting mailboxes full of reposnses talking about how they sent out three letters and are spreading it all over the place. Many people have signed on and helped in there own way and BIG THANK YOU GOES OUT TO ALL OF THEM!!! So from the Ancients Guild and me. Thank you

[mckaysgirl]

an information site has been put up at http://www.savesg-1.com/ with links to the petition, and other campaign ideas, as well as a forum for discussion. please check it out if you are looking for how you can help!

Thanks.

[the fifth man]

your a perfect example for what a gatehead should do. hope your letter to sci-fi is polite



Yeah, it's polite. I let them know how I feel, no doubt about that. But I think it wasn't overboard. I made sure to keep some self-control.:)

[Cru]

I've sent out a few letters to local papers here in Vancouver as well as some of the tv corporations.

This one I got from the Space Channel in Toronto lol:

Hello,

Thank you for your e-mail. The positive feedback regarding Stargate SG-1 is greatly appreciated and will be forwarded to the appropriate parties. Unfortunately at this time we have no further news in regards to the cancellation of the hit program. The show is currently purchased by SPACE from MGM Television and we are not involved in production. SPACE does not have the means to produce this show.

Cheers,

SPACE Communications

It's a damn shame we don't have multi-billion dollar budgets for our tv stations in Canada lol.

[Jackie]

I want to make up a save SG-1 bumper sticker for my car on my computer. Any suggestions on how it should be worded.

What I have come up with:

Save SG-1

Save the Gates

SG-1 deserves to be aired

Gaters wanted--save Stargate

Any more suggestions?

[Jordan]

Ya i was thinking, why cant Space do what SCI-FI did? Like take over from where SCI-FI left off??

[Kaylandra_]

I am also in Toronto, trying to bridge the gap between Spacecast and this site. Has anyone here at Gateworld heard this?

"Stern added that under terms of its contract, the network’s decision to cancel the series prohibits MGM from making any new episodes of the show to air on U.S. television"

Sounds just like something SI FI would pull.. if we can't have it, nobody else can either!!

[FoolishPleasure]

Sounds just like something SI FI would pull.. if we can't have it, nobody else can either!!
Why would they still want it if they can't make money off it? Jerks.

They just want to yank MGM around and get license fees lowered and such. . .THEN Skiffy will play "hero" and say they changed their minds.

[adl123]

Don't do it. Bumper stickers are dumb and it will make you look like a geek.

[Falcon Horus]

Don't do it. Bumper stickers are dumb and it will make you look like a geek.

No! Bumper stickers are cool. All they need is a good slogan...

[Cru]

Ya i was thinking, why cant Space do what SCI-FI did? Like take over from where SCI-FI left off??

"SPACE does not have the means to produce this show."

I don't think they have money :(

[janus ancient]

UPDATE:

My contact has informed me that the network has changed the e-mail address. So the one that was listed is no longer valid. I have edited the post so you may just copy and paste the letter and steps from http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=33691&page=65 this thread. It has been updated and i have removed the e-mail step and e-mail address. I will work on getting a new one from my connection. Thanks

Janus Ancient

[Jackie]

No! Bumper stickers are cool. All they need is a good slogan...


My husband already put bullet hole stickers on the back of the van (my car)...can't get much geeker than that! How about one that will match the bullet holes?

[mckaysgirl]

For those who have seen it and have a myspace account. http://www.myspace.com/save_stargate_sg1

[WTFOwned]

My "Save SG-1" Todo List:
1. Send "Send more SG-1" Kleenex box to SciFi
2. Send "Send more SG-1" Kleenex box NBC Universal
3. Remix "We're not gonna take it" (Twisted Sister) to include Stargate SG-1 theme song allong with other SG-1 reference. Send MP3 to SciFi feedback email addresses.
4. *mod snip*
5. Purchase all season of SG-1 directly from MGM (or mb on eBay)
6. Help support the creation of a new cable network payed for by SG-1 fans and paid advertisements that will only show Stargate.

[PG15]

Alright Canadian fans, here are some of the advertisers for SG1 on the Space Channel:

Moores Tux rentals: http://www.mooresformalwear.com/mooresformalwear/en/index_flash.jsp

Head & Shoulders Shampoo: http://www.headandshoulders.com/canadian_english/Index_flash.asp

Visa: http://www.visa.ca/en/

Venus Vibrant (razors): http://www.gillettevenus.com/us/

Molson Canadian Beer: http://www.molson.com/ <- should try to get them to sponsor I think. ;)

Covergirl: http://www.covergirl.ca/

There should be contact info on the websites, hopefully. More to come!!

[Space Monkey52]

Have you guys read this bull yet?

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6365387.html?display=Breaking+News

[jackattack]

Yeah no offense but boycotting the advertisers who keep the show alive seems a wee bit stupid. Man in other cool news I got a friend who has only seen half of SG1's pilot to write a letter that if I must say so myself, sounded very sincere ( now please people don't falem me or hurt my reputation I'm a good person). One question: Is there anyone with experience in campagins like this who can honestly tell us the success of our campaign so far and how much of an effect we're having with the people at the networks? Just wondering.:tealcanime49:

[jackattack]

Hey guys I have just one question: Does anyone here have the experience with these sort of campagins to say how much impact we've been making on the networks, and how fast of a pace we're working at? :tealcanime49: I think that would be a question that some of us here ( at least me :jack_new_anime04: ) would like answered.

[gameguy23]

hope this isnt the end but i think theres reasons why this happened. one is that people dont really like the ori mostly because theyre not the enemies u can just fight with like the goauld and u dont really see them. I actually really like the battle with the ori but anyways i think the second reason is because lots of people record it now so no one is watching the commercials and they cant support it anymore.
Still though hope this isnt the end.

[Minder]

Yoy dont need to boycot the advertizers, however dropping them a few thousand friendly notes reminding them how valuable SG-1 is to their advertizing campagins, couldnt hurt :)

[102Midnight]

There was an episode listed today on the main page for Atlantis. "Vengence" It had a blurb towards the end saying that there would be something in it that would be on most Stargate fans wish list. I'm curious. I think (and hope) that what will happen with SG1 is that you will see some of the characters move over to Atlantis. It's not dead. Too much money invested in merchandising and so forth. It is sad that the SG1 that we have all come to love won't be in the same guise, but it will continue. I'm not gonna say better, because that won't happen for me anyway, I favor the old school episodes anyway. Chin up. It'll work it's way through.

[Elles]

My friend from school and I were thinking about writing to our local newspapers to get the word out about the cancellation and what fans can do. Is this a good idea and any advice from people on here?

[plaw15]

I think the save sg1 is simple and would be fine.

[jonasgurl1]

My friend from school and I were thinking about writing to our local newspapers to get the word out about the cancellation and what fans can do. Is this a good idea and any advice from people on here?

I would go to the school newspaper first, but that's just me. Otherwise that sounds like a pretty good idea!:)

[Maxum]

I think I will do as Cooper suggested, since he's in a position to know, and that is to keep watching SG-1 while it's on Sci-Fi. Keep the ratings up and show any other potential markets that SG-1 has a large fanbase.

For those who choose to boycott the show, the network, or the advertisers, you are just shooting yourselves in the foot. The ratings went up to 1.9 last week, and we need to keep them high to prove a point to other potential channels who may consider picking up SG-1 and also showing Sci-Fi what they gave up.

Frankly, I'd be happy with just one more season (11th Season) where they can wrap up all the storylines properly. It's the abruptness of the ending that's really bothering me, especially now that the writing and the direction of the show has improved tremendously since Season 8.

[Wordsmit2]

RE: Six month hiatus - don't Sci-Fi realise this will hurt their ratings? Are they that stupid?

Remember this is the channel that cut their title sequences *during* the voting period while Atlantis's theme was up for an Emmy award. This is the corporate entity that put two of its most popular shows in competition with each other in the dead zone of Friday nights at 9pm: Monk on USA, Stargate SG-1 on Sci-Fi.

Who knows what logic lurks in the minds of the entertainment industry?

[Wordsmit2]

Thank you for the addresses, Sprinkles. It does not bode well that it took this thread until post #75 before someone tracked down some useful avenues of expression.

I had already sent a polite email to The Sci-Fi Channel. I had already drafted the other letters, so they're ready to go. I'm writing to The Sci-Fi Channel to explain that *current* episodes of Stargate SG-1 are the only reason I regularly tune into the channel, and thus the only way I reliably receive their advertising, and to MGM to tell them how much I enjoy *new* one-hour episodes of Stargate SG-1.

That's my opinion, and I ain't afraid to support it.

[ahdvd]

Have you guys read this bull yet?

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6365387.html?display=Breaking+News

Um, there is one line in there that REALLY concerns me:


Stern added that under terms of its contract, the network’s decision to cancel the series prohibits MGM from making any new episodes of the show to air on U.S. television.

Doesnt that mean that Sci-Fi not only canceled SG-1 but out of spite ensured it could not get any further episodes made?!

[Wordsmit2]

I think I will do as Cooper suggested, since he's in a position to know, and that is to keep watching SG-1 while it's on Sci-Fi. Keep the ratings up and show any other potential markets that SG-1 has a large fanbase.

It's a good idea for many reasons. I plan to tune into both showings of every single one of SG-1's season 10 episodes from now until The Sci-Fi Channel stops showing them. I am also turning the TV off or turning the channel precisely when the episode is over, but of course it would be unfair to ask Atlantis fans to do that. The point is to make it clear that I'm tuning in to see *SG-1*, not "the franchise".

If nothing else, late next summer when The Sci-Fi Channel stops showing season 10 and loops back to earlier episodes the ratings plunge could hit them where it hurts. Of course, that would require a lot of people to be doing the same thing...

[Space Monkey52]

Um, there is one line in there that REALLY concerns me:



Doesnt that mean that Sci-Fi not only canceled SG-1 but out of spite ensured it could not get any further episodes made?!

That's what caught my attention too. This could be very bad...

[Sci-Fi]

Um, there is one line in there that REALLY concerns me:



Doesnt that mean that Sci-Fi not only canceled SG-1 but out of spite ensured it could not get any further episodes made?!

No. It appears a lot of programming have that language in their contracts. Firefly had a similar stipulation, the show couldn't be shopped to another network for "x" amount of years or any movies made for the same time period. And Firefly was a FOX production...so it was all inhouse. Go figure. Ironically it was Universal that bartered for the Firefly franchise...so they own it now, not FOX.

From the reports by others, that SG1 contract stipulation appears to be for only U.S. airings.

Lot of worldwide fans and networks that love SG1 and have good ratings. Maybe ask SkyOne and a few other overseas networks to get together and underwrite/pay for the licensing fees so SG1 can continue. The broadcast standards are different, so it might be interesting to see what stories they come up with without worrying about meeting U.S. censorship rules. MGM will make out if somebody can pay the licensing fees because they still can have DVD sales and after the "wait period" is up...MGM can syndicate those SG1 seasons in the U.S. and make more money.

[PG15]

Here's a few more Canadian sponsors (all for SPACE SG1 airings):

Crest: http://www.crest.com/

Swiffer: http://www.homemadesimple.com/sites/en_CA/swiffer/caenglish/index.shtml

Febreze: http://www.homemadesimple.com/en_CA/febreze/home.do

Herbal Essences: http://www.herbalessences.com/ca_en/

Listerine: http://www.listerine.com/default.aspx

Reactine: http://www.reactine.ca/

Tag: http://www.consideryourselfwarned.com/

They're all pretty big companies, so, who knows? Also, remember to NOT ANTAGONIZE THEM. Instead, say something like, "I'll buy your products because you advertised during SG1" or something.

[SMEAGOL2]

If anyone is looking for help in seeing what more we as fans can do should contact the people over at savefarscape. I think its now watchfarscape.com. I know they did media buys and other stuff. They seem to know what they are doing. They got a nice mini-series out of it all. Just a thought.

I wrote my letters to all the powers that be. Signed the petition. I just dont know what else to do other then talk it up to family and friends and on web chats.

[elf61]

I heard about this on Space this evening, and this is the first time I've actually done anything like this to save a show. Stargate is one of the best Sci-fi/fantasy shows going, and I sincerely hope it stays around for at least a couple more seasons.

[Mycenia]

No. It appears a lot of programming have that language in their contracts. Firefly had a similar stipulation, the show couldn't be shopped to another network for "x" amount of years or any movies made for the same time period. And Firefly was a FOX production...so it was all inhouse. Go figure. Ironically it was Universal that bartered for the Firefly franchise...so they own it now, not FOX.

From the reports by others, that SG1 contract stipulation appears to be for only U.S. airings.

Lot of worldwide fans and networks that love SG1 and have good ratings. Maybe ask SkyOne and a few other overseas networks to get together and underwrite/pay for the licensing fees so SG1 can continue. The broadcast standards are different, so it might be interesting to see what stories they come up with without worrying about meeting U.S. censorship rules. MGM will make out if somebody can pay the licensing fees because they still can have DVD sales and after the "wait period" is up...MGM can syndicate those SG1 seasons in the U.S. and make more money.

While the stipulation may exist in the contract, I'm sure it's a common fallout procedure. Sci-Fi may have the right to prohibit MGM from seeking other venues, but that doesn't mean they will act on it. The WB had a similar contract with BTVS, but it still moved to UPN. They may have to beg, steal and borrow, but I imagine MGM will find a way. They seem dead on the idea of keeping the show afloat in some fashion.

[Davesg-43]

I have started an online petition for the renewal of Stargate, pleae sign and tell others

Link

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Stargate/index.html
call MGM and say srew u

[ZakeD]

call MGM and say srew u

That's not gonna help a bit. And I think you mean SciFi.

[ahdvd]

No. It appears a lot of programming have that language in their contracts. Firefly had a similar stipulation, the show couldn't be shopped to another network for "x" amount of years or any movies made for the same time period. And Firefly was a FOX production...so it was all inhouse. Go figure. Ironically it was Universal that bartered for the Firefly franchise...so they own it now, not FOX.

From the reports by others, that SG1 contract stipulation appears to be for only U.S. airings.

Lot of worldwide fans and networks that love SG1 and have good ratings. Maybe ask SkyOne and a few other overseas networks to get together and underwrite/pay for the licensing fees so SG1 can continue. The broadcast standards are different, so it might be interesting to see what stories they come up with without worrying about meeting U.S. censorship rules. MGM will make out if somebody can pay the licensing fees because they still can have DVD sales and after the "wait period" is up...MGM can syndicate those SG1 seasons in the U.S. and make more money.

You're sorta right about Firefly - Fox still owns the rights to it being a TV show, they sold the rights for a movie franchise to Universal, Universal could make as many firefly movies but they dont have the rights to take it to a series, sadly. Contacting Sky might not be a bad idea, as i know that they paid some pretty heavy change towards the production of battlestar galactica for seaosn 1 atleast, not surfe if they are still paying for the production of it though, and they might be interested in getting a season of stargate that only they could show over american audiences.

Remember a program called Due South from before SG-1 even started? it was cancelled after 2 seasons being made for an american network (i forget which one), but it got 2 additional (if slightly fewer eps per) seasons from funding from all over the world, and i believe SG-1 is even more popular worldwide than Due South was at the time, especially in places like Germany where you have the Pro Sieben network aswell.

[Mycenia]

I saw a few mentions of music vids. Just thought this would make a fitting statement song:

Breaking Benjamin - Until the End

So clever, whatever, I'm done with these endeavors
Alone I'll walk the winding way (here I stay)
It's over, no longer, I feel it growing stronger
I live to die another day, until I fade away

Why give up? Why give in?
It's not enough, it never is
So I will go on until the end
We've become, desolate
It's not enough, it never is
But I will go on until the end

Surround me, it's easy, to fall apart completely
I feel you creeping up again (here I am)
It's over, no longer, I feel it going colder
I knew this day would come to end, so let this life begin

Why give up? Why give in?
It's not enough, it never is
So I will go on until the end
We've become, desolate
It's not enough, it never is
But I will go until the end

I've lost my way
I've lost my way
But I will go on until the end

Living is, hard enough, without you f***ing up

Why give up? Why give in?
It's not enough, it never is
So I will go on until the end
We've become, desolate
It's not enough, it never is
But I will go on until the end

I've lost my way
I've lost my way
But I will go on until the end

The final fight, I win
The final fight, I win
The final fight, I win

But I will go on until the end

[broken-heart]

I was wondering, who started the tissue box idea? So creative!

Sorry if it's been asked before.

[michey]

You're sorta right about Firefly - Fox still owns the rights to it being a TV show, they sold the rights for a movie franchise to Universal, Universal could make as many firefly movies but they dont have the rights to take it to a series, sadly.

Fox actually owns Universal, since it brought it out after Universal went backrupt with the disaester of Waterworld.

Sci Fi may be able to prohibit mgm from airing on another US network, but I am sure MGM could buy Sci Fi out of this deal if Sci Fi really doesn't want anymore SG-1

From reading the artticle, it sounds as though this whole thing is just a neogiation ploy from Sci-Fi, to get MGM to pay a higher percentage of the production costs for SG-1.

[Lillgreen]

it sounds as though this whole thing is just a neogiation ploy from Sci-Fi, to get MGM to pay a higher percentage of the production costs for SG-1.

well if it is i hope mgm pay, even though i have all the dvd box sets i will go out and buy them for family as christmas presents.
boost up their profits to be spent on sg1 hopefully.

[FoolishPleasure]

Everyone - please read Darren's Blog if you want to know WHAT you can do:

http://www.gateworld.net/blogs/darren/index.shtml

The biggest Gateworld websites are working together on this site to get fans working together:

http://www.savestargatesg1.com/

[tyro]

now theres a thought, i just bought season 10, maybe a couple a more sales would indicate how much we all enjoy the series

[michey]

now theres a thought, i just bought season 10, maybe a couple a more sales would indicate how much we all enjoy the series

You brought Season 10? How did you manage that?

[Ancient 61]

From reading the artticle, it sounds as though this whole thing is just a neogiation ploy from Sci-Fi, to get MGM to pay a higher percentage of the production costs for SG-1.

Or they may be testing the waters to see how the fans react

Joanne :jack: :sam: :jack: :sam:

[michey]

US residents can pre-order season 9 now

www.amazon.com

[Mycenia]

You bought Season 10? How did you manage that?

I don't think it is. Season 9 has been out in non-US countries for a little while and it was just placed on Amazon for distribution this week (I already pre-ordered three).

Following a similar train of thought. If you are going to go out and buy the DVDs, buy them from a reputable dealer, online market or store. eBay and other second hand stores aren't going to help in the least. Besides, I've found Amazon to be the cheapest, even when comparing to some second-hand sets. At this moment Season 9 is #22 in DVD sales on Amazon.com. We can do better people. Push it up...

[Space Monkey52]

Sci Fi may be able to prohibit mgm from airing on another US network, but I am sure MGM could buy Sci Fi out of this deal if Sci Fi really doesn't want anymore SG-1

From reading the article, it sounds as though this whole thing is just a neogiation ploy from Sci-Fi, to get MGM to pay a higher percentage of the production costs for SG-1.

I just pray they get this settled. I've heard that they may be doing a few two hour movies but that would be it and I'd really rather just have the series go on. I hope MGM buys SG-1 back. It would make things so much easier.



Or they may be testing the waters to see how the fans react

Joanne :jack: :sam: :jack: :sam:

That's like whacking a beehive with a baseball bat just to see if anything is inside. Bad idea. Then again, if they put the show back on I have no issues with them.

[Freekzilla]

No. It appears a lot of programming have that language in their contracts. Firefly had a similar stipulation, the show couldn't be shopped to another network for "x" amount of years or any movies made for the same time period. And Firefly was a FOX production...so it was all inhouse. Go figure. Ironically it was Universal that bartered for the Firefly franchise...so they own it now, not FOX.

From the reports by others, that SG1 contract stipulation appears to be for only U.S. airings.

Lot of worldwide fans and networks that love SG1 and have good ratings. Maybe ask SkyOne and a few other overseas networks to get together and underwrite/pay for the licensing fees so SG1 can continue. The broadcast standards are different, so it might be interesting to see what stories they come up with without worrying about meeting U.S. censorship rules. MGM will make out if somebody can pay the licensing fees because they still can have DVD sales and after the "wait period" is up...MGM can syndicate those SG1 seasons in the U.S. and make more money.


Is it just me, or is SciFi looking more and more like the bad guy here? They don't want the show anymore, but won't let anyone else have it either, hmmmmm. Also, as I have said before, and that report from Multichannel news only confirms that SciFi was upset because MGM retained the rights to: syndicate on weekends, and made money off of DVD sales that SciFi never saw a part of, and they wanted to be charged less for airing the show.
So, they canceled the show to hurt MGM, and used the contract clause so that they couldn't shop it around, atleast for a time period.
That Stern guy basically says it plain as day, "If MGM came to us for less,” Sci Fi would be interested in more Stargate SG-1 fare, whether in the form of episodes, movies or miniseries. He would not disclose the network’s license fee to MGM.

What they are doing is, holding the show as a hostage and MGM/the fans/and other interested networks get screwed unless MGM pays them money (charges less actually). And that's exactly what they are being, terrorists holding a hostage for money. I know it's a business and all, but the way SciFi has handled this whole thing has REALLY left a bad taste in my mouth. I know I won't watch anything on their network ever again, except SG shows of course.

[michey]

Is it just me, or is SciFi looking more and more like the bad guy here? They don't want the show anymore, but won't let anyone else have it either, hmmmmm. Also, as I have said before, and that report from Multichannel news only confirms that SciFi was upset because MGM retained the rights to: syndicate on weekends, and made money off of DVD sales that SciFi never saw a part of, and they wanted to be charged less for airing the show.
So, they canceled the show to hurt MGM, and used the contract clause so that they couldn't shop it around, atleast for a time period.
That Stern guy basically says it plain as day, "If MGM came to us for less,” Sci Fi would be interested in more Stargate SG-1 fare, whether in the form of episodes, movies or miniseries. He would not disclose the network’s license fee to MGM.

What they are doing is, holding the show as a hostage and MGM/the fans/and other interested networks get screwed unless MGM pays them money (charges less actually). And that's exactly what they are being, terrorists holding a hostage for money. I know it's a business and all, but the way SciFi has handled this whole thing has REALLY left a bad taste in my mouth. I know I won't watch anything on their network ever again, except SG shows of course.

Completely agree, Sci Fi have really given MGM three options

1. Charge them less for letting them share it.
2. Buy them out completely for a large price
3. Lose SG-1

[Brock]

Is it just me, or is SciFi looking more and more like the bad guy here? They don't want the show anymore, but won't let anyone else have it either, hmmmmm. Also, as I have said before, and that report from Multichannel news only confirms that SciFi was upset because MGM retained the rights to: syndicate on weekends, and made money off of DVD sales that SciFi never saw a part of, and they wanted to be charged less for airing the show.
So, they canceled the show to hurt MGM, and used the contract clause so that they couldn't shop it around, atleast for a time period.
That Stern guy basically says it plain as day, "If MGM came to us for less,” Sci Fi would be interested in more Stargate SG-1 fare, whether in the form of episodes, movies or miniseries. He would not disclose the network’s license fee to MGM.

What they are doing is, holding the show as a hostage and MGM/the fans/and other interested networks get screwed unless MGM pays them money (charges less actually). And that's exactly what they are being, terrorists holding a hostage for money. I know it's a business and all, but the way SciFi has handled this whole thing has REALLY left a bad taste in my mouth. I know I won't watch anything on their network ever again, except SG shows of course.

SG-1 and Atlantis are the only shows I've ever watched on Sci-Fi.

[Brock]

How are people sending their tissue boxes? Are they just slapping some postage on the actual box or are they packing it inside another box and sending it that way?

[michey]

wrapping in brown package paper

[Brock]

wrapping in brown package paper

Cool, I've actually got a tissue box at home thats almost empty, I may actually send it. :cameron:

[janus ancient]

Update on the campaign

Currently we have submitted over 1,000 letters total to the show. We have bases set up at spacechannel, gateworld, here, alteranancients.com and many other forums. My connection said that conan is away working on hosting on the emmy's untill monday. He did check and saw that we had lots of letters in the mail sections, lots. So, lets all wish good things and see what happens

[zantri]

is that just snail mail or emails as well?

[Space Monkey52]

Update on the campaign

Currently we have submitted over 1,000 letters total to the show. We have bases set up at spacechannel, gateworld, here, alteranancients.com and many other forums. My connection said that conan is away working on hosting on the emmy's untill monday. He did check and saw that we had lots of letters in the mail sections, lots. So, lets all wish good things and see what happens

Have them tell Conan to do it for Brookline high! He actually went to my old high school, even got an achievement award from them and showed up to accept it.

I was really thinking a lot of this had actually been the doing of NBC and that Sci-Fi was mainly innocent, but after reading that article that idea went completely out the window. I can't believe Sci-Fi is doing this, especially after letting shows like ECW be aired on it. Did anyone hear they are also going to broadcast RAW on Sci-Fi too? I think they are only going to do it once, but even then that's one time too many

[michey]

Have them tell Conan to do it for Brookline high! He actually went to my old high school, even got an achievement award from them and showed up to accept it.

I was really thinking a lot of this had actually been the doing of NBC and that Sci-Fi was mainly innocent, but after reading that article that idea went completely out the window. I can't believe Sci-Fi is doing this, especially after letting shows like ECW be aired on it. Did anyone hear they are also going to broadcast RAW on Sci-Fi too? I think they are only going to do it once, but even then that's one time too many

I heard that NBC put pressure on SciFi to end SG1 too. If it did come from the top, it is likely it is about the money

[Space Monkey52]

Don't Universal and MGM compete?

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Methinks that over here in england SG1 will continue on SkyOne

if it doesnt..... TPTB can always do what everyone else does and put all the episodes on YouTube :D LOL

[Minder]

How are people sending their tissue boxes? Are they just slapping some postage on the actual box or are they packing it inside another box and sending it that way?


I slapped the postage right on the box, wrote "SEND MORE SG-1" on the side, covered it in clear tape and sent it off.

I will be sending more ... and more ... and more!

[michey]

Methinks that over here in england SG1 will continue on SkyOne

if it doesnt..... TPTB can always do what everyone else does and put all the episodes on YouTube :D LOL

Sci Fi pays a third of the production costs to MGM, skyone then just buys it in to air, It wont continue anywhere unless MGM and scifi sort out an agreement or MGM gets a new network

[FoolishPleasure]

How are people sending their tissue boxes? Are they just slapping some postage on the actual box or are they packing it inside another box and sending it that way?
I'm sending a couple out this weekend. Write directly on the empty tissue box to "Send more Stargate SG1". Stick a BIG label on one side with the address, and don't forget postage. (not sure what that is yet) ;)

[Space Monkey52]

Somebody already asked Space about this and they responded that they didn't have the money to continue production of the show on their own so I don't SkyOne would be any different.

[Space Monkey52]

I'm sending a couple out this weekend. Write directly on the empty tissue box to "Send more Stargate SG1". Stick a BIG label on one side with the address, and don't forget postage. (not sure what that is yet) ;)

How do you keep the box from getting crushed during shipping? Wouldn't it be a good idea to fill it with something so it mostly keeps it shape?

[michey]

Somebody already asked Space about this and they responded that they didn't have the money to continue production of the show on their own so I don't SkyOne would be any different.

The whole SKY network, is actually owned by Fox, Fox also airs SG1 on their channels in other countries, so FOX may be a possibility

[Space Monkey52]

Forget tissue boxes...... Death Threats to the employees of Sci Fi..... :D

No! Bad idea. You can get in deep trouble for that, especially if they take it seriously.

[Space Monkey52]

The whole SKY network, is actually owned by Fox, Fox also airs SG1 on their channels in other countries, so FOX may be a possibility

True. But then there's still the issue of the US wouldn't get it.

[Gabophis]

i think thats marketing twist all that about ending SG cause they were awaiting it-you can see it in 200th so i think its a marketing twist on us fans which dont look it live on scifi what do you thind about this theory?

[michey]

True. But then there's still the issue of the US wouldn't get it.

Again it would mean that SciFi would have to be paid enough to wave their rights to the show

[FoolishPleasure]

How do you keep the box from getting crushed during shipping? Wouldn't it be a good idea to fill it with something so it mostly keeps it shape?
Its okay if it gets banged up or crushed. If you pay the postage, the post office HAS to deliver it. All we want to do is drown their mail room. :)

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Its okay if it gets banged up or crushed. If you pay the postage, the post office HAS to deliver it. All we want to do is drown their mail room. :)
Then fill the tissue boxes with water, that will drown them soon enough :P

Problem is here in england that 90% of tissue boxes will be lost and sent to some scottish bloke in manchester lol

[Freekzilla]

Someone posted a link that says the SciFi channel is going to change their name to SurgeTV on 11/1/06. And that part of the name change is a change to more general programs. The article also said that they are dumping all the old reruns and the "nerd" programs in favor of a more "extreme" program set, and maybe even Rated R material after midnight. Sounds to me that dumping SG-1 was just part of this change. They are even supposed to air WWE Raw or something in addition to 3 nights of ECW wrestling. Talk about going down the toilet. Whose bright idea is this?

[latvik]

I thought much of the same, cancel the show to get people to watch it Live so the ratings go up and then reneg on the cancellation.

Make the adverho's happy.

Rarely are contracts already negotiated for ALL actors for an upcoming season thats going to be cancelled. Nor do the EP's usually instantly rebut the claim saying SG-1 will go on.

[michey]

Someone posted a link that says the SciFi channel is going to change their name to SurgeTV on 11/1/06. And that part of the name change is a change to more general programs. The article also said that they are dumping all the old reruns and the "nerd" programs in favor of a more "extreme" program set, and maybe even Rated R material after midnight. Sounds to me that dumping SG-1 was just part of this change. They are even supposed to air WWE Raw or something in addition to 3 nights of ECW wrestling. Talk about going down the toilet. Whose bright idea is this?

I heard about this, aparently its not true, just a weird article someone posted with no standing

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Someone posted a link that says the SciFi channel is going to change their name to SurgeTV on 11/1/06. And that part of the name change is a change to more general programs. The article also said that they are dumping all the old reruns and the "nerd" programs in favor of a more "extreme" program set, and maybe even Rated R material after midnight. Sounds to me that dumping SG-1 was just part of this change. They are even supposed to air WWE Raw or something in addition to 3 nights of ECW wrestling. Talk about going down the toilet. Whose bright idea is this?

That is just asking for hatemail on a galactic size.

"Astronomical Hate Mail!"

[Space Monkey52]

Someone posted a link that says the SciFi channel is going to change their name to SurgeTV on 11/1/06. And that part of the name change is a change to more general programs. The article also said that they are dumping all the old reruns and the "nerd" programs in favor of a more "extreme" program set, and maybe even Rated R material after midnight. Sounds to me that dumping SG-1 was just part of this change. They are even supposed to air WWE Raw or something in addition to 3 nights of ECW wrestling. Talk about going down the toilet. Whose bright idea is this?

It was a prank someone pulled. They took the press release down and even somebody did a news story on it.

[Space Monkey52]

I thought much of the same, cancel the show to get people to watch it Live so the ratings go up and then reneg on the cancellation.

Make the adverho's happy.

Rarely are contracts already negotiated for ALL actors for an upcoming season thats going to be cancelled. Nor do the EP's usually instantly rebut the claim saying SG-1 will go on.

I don't think the actors knew the show was going to get canceled. They were only told last friday. Also the EP's said Stargate would go on "in one form or another" meaning that the series may not go on. I just hope this is a negotiation ploy that Sci-Fi is using against MGM, because in that case at least there's some hope.

[Gabophis]

agree

[Freekzilla]

It was a prank someone pulled. They took the press release down and even somebody did a news story on it.

I just noticed that too when I tried to search for info about this change.

OK, yes it is a hoax, and an over exaggerated one at that, or is it? The scary thing is, based on people's reactions to what they thought was real, not many of us have much faith in the SciFi channel, and that something as bone headed as this isn't that much of a stretch. And that's what's REALLY scary. The SciFi channel has been changing it's personality a lot lately, ECW and such. The problem is, it would explain a lot about what and why things were happeing at SciFi. I think that's why so many people believed it at first, myself included. If I were SGA and BSC, I'd get the hell out of Dodge and FAST!!! Obviously, the hostility against the SciFi channel has gotten REALLY bad. I truthfully wonder if they understand how bad it is.

[Space Monkey52]

The bigger question is do they care

[diane100851]

I'm calling for the ban on the Scifi network next season if SG-1 is cancelled!!
Does anyone have an opinion on this oe how I would go about getting this started?

[Freekzilla]

The bigger question is do they care

Honestly, I don't think they do. I think what they'd say is, "this is just business." And that is the rally cry of someone that is a heartless prick. I compare that type of attitude to a pharmaceutical company withholding medications for diseases for the sake of profit margins. And it's like the oil companies....ah heck, I won't even go there. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

My "other" complaints, businesses and corp execs have no sense of morality or public responsibility. To them, it's ALL about how much they can screw the common man. And that sort of thing is clearly evident in how SciFi channel has acted lately.

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Erm.....i disagree

-1 vote

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

Wow, the two beginners are arguing.

[Space Monkey52]

They did have an article at the back of the recent Sci-Fi magazine about "save my show" campeigns and that they are useless and are mostly ignored by networks.

[genome]

-giggle-

[freyr's mother]

Obviously they have forgotten about the ratings for atlantis would be dependent on how many Nielsen viewers are watching. A ban would not be a good idea.

[Freekzilla]

They did have an article at the back of the recent Sci-Fi magazine about "save my show" campeigns and that they are useless and are mostly ignored by networks.

Maybe they knew this would happen then. Depending on when that article was printed, it would only count as evidence that SciFi fully intended to cancel SG-1 from the start. Which would in turn it would be a clear sign that SciFi is a dishonest and disreputable network and should be avoided at all costs.

[takagari]

someone esplain what a nielson viewer is pleasE? ive seen it everywhere without explanation.

If atlantis was offered on mroe then one station yes boycott. but outside that you need to watch atlantis or they cancel it too.

[Freekzilla]

Obviously they have forgotten about the ratings for atlantis would be dependent on how many Nielsen viewers are watching. A ban would not be a good idea.

Honestly, I don't think it would be a bad idea if Atlantis moved to a new network too. SciFi has become a joke of a network. And they have a bad habit of making bone-headed decisions, not to mention to making their audience thoroughly alienated. (pun intended) [ I said that politely on purpose.]

[diane100851]

We could ban everything except Atlantis until they cancel it too. The ratings are similar to SG-1's.

[becauseitissoclear]

I belivie the the tissue box idea may do something if enough are sent it may become more a more interesting story to the larger news organizations. More pubilcity would be a good thing. I am sending two today. here is another petition link too

http://www.petitiononline.com/bbacksg1/

[Space Monkey52]

Maybe they knew this would happen then. Depending on when that article was printed, it would only count as evidence that SciFi fully intended to cancel SG-1 from the start. Which would in turn it would be a clear sign that SciFi is a dishonest and disreputable network and should be avoided at all costs.
I'm not sure when they sent it. I just got it yesterday but that was because someone at my house actually checked the mail bin we have so it may have been there for a while and just gotten buried by the newer mail. I don't know.

[Minder]

How do you keep the box from getting crushed during shipping? Wouldn't it be a good idea to fill it with something so it mostly keeps it shape?

If you like, you can ball up the tissues (So they look like they are used) and stuff them back in the box.

That should turn a head or 2 :)

[Space Monkey52]

Send tissues with something on them! Snot or whatever you are into putting on tissues!

Uh..... That's disgusting.

[Minder]

Send tissues with something on them! Snot or whatever you are into putting on tissues!

DONT do that. It would not help our cause!

[stargate-x304]

We must work together to save stargate this can not be the last season.

[rarocks24]

Except the roadmap of Atlantis is probably a bit better than the roadmap of SG1, at least that which was presented to SciFi. We may end up getting a third spinoff as a result. The only problem about not having an 11th season is that more than likely, the show's going to end with deus ex machina, something most scifi shows tend to end with FWIW.

And there has been talk of another spinoff. They probably had to pick between Atlantis and SG1 (the SciFi execs).

[Space Monkey52]

Right now, especially today, I think a very important thing for fans to do is TUNE IN LIVE for tonights episode of SG-1. Boycotting Sci-Fi won't help the show. Maybe if the ratings get higher they might change their minds. It could happen.

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Except the roadmap of Atlantis is probably a bit better than the roadmap of SG1, at least that which was presented to SciFi. We may end up getting a third spinoff as a result. The only problem about not having an 11th season is that more than likely, the show's going to end with deus ex machina, something most scifi shows tend to end with FWIW.

And there has been talk of another spinoff. They probably had to pick between Atlantis and SG1 (the SciFi execs).

Stargate Alpha Site? Or one of the offworld bases maybe.

[michey]

Right now, especially today, I think a very important thing for fans to do is TUNE IN LIVE for tonights episode of SG-1. Boycotting Sci-Fi won't help the show. Maybe if the ratings get higher they might change their minds. It could happen.

If you can, tune in live for BOTH showings early and late

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

America needs a President who likes Stargate!!!!

not to mention one who can string a sentence together with some meaning or actual fact, or prefferably sanity...

[Inty]

http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=33691

This thread exist for a rew days already so i don't think that we need anotherone although it is important enough :cameron:

[Space Monkey52]

If you can, tune in live for BOTH showings early and late

Hell, I'd love to but I gotta get up early tomorrow morning to drive to the Cape with my family. I've been told the house we rented has cable, but if they don't get Sci-Fi things may get ugly.

How does the ratingsw thing work anyway? Does the TV actually have to be on or can you just leave the cable box on that channel?

[stargate-x304]

we must send every thing we can if every one sends just one letter a week or even just an e-mail they can not ignore us. we can't send anything vulgar or obscene, and just lash out at sicfi we need to send reasonable well thought out arguments but we will have to be consistent and send at least one a week that is not that hard it will take about two minutes. if any one has any good ideas pleas post and share that way we can have a season eleven

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Hell, I'd love to but I gotta get up early tomorrow morning to drive to the Cape with my family. I've been told the house we rented has cable, but if they don't get Sci-Fi things may get ugly.

How does the ratingsw thing work anyway? Does the TV actually have to be on or can you just leave the cable box on that channel?

Cable box left on channel, its not like they will know if your TV is turned off lol

[Minder]

Hell, I'd love to but I gotta get up early tomorrow morning to drive to the Cape with my family. I've been told the house we rented has cable, but if they don't get Sci-Fi things may get ugly.

How does the ratingsw thing work anyway? Does the TV actually have to be on or can you just leave the cable box on that channel?

Im prety sure the cabel box on the chanel is good, but im not sure.

Leave the TV on just in case :)

[smushybird]

If you can, tune in live for BOTH showings early and late


Yes, even if you can't stay up that late or you want to go out for dinner, keep your TV on and set to Sci Fi throughout all the showings of Stargate. That's what I'm doing, since I have to get up early Saturday.

[SoylentGreen]

the ban wouldn't really work, they wouldn't know if you are watching or not.

i only watch scifi for sg-1 and i was really into watching the reruns of sg-1 and the x-files but i own most of the sg-1 seasons and i saw most of the x-files run...now only for doctor who and twilight zone marathons.

i wonder what i will be thinking about the future events coming up when i look them after they had happend hmm.

[IcyNeko]

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[rarocks24]

Stargate Alpha Site? Or one of the offworld bases maybe.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's going to be shipbased. :)

[takagari]

another show would be great but honestly if they leave for another planet to follow the ancients. and cant find them but then find another even worse enemy. ima jsut be pissed.

maybe they can start a spin off where they try to track down the furlings??

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

On sky we can set Auto View so the box auto changes to the channel specified at the specified time. Even if the program is 7 days away.

[Space Monkey52]

I may have to settle with just the cable box. If I try to leave the TV on, I know somebody is gonna turn it off when I'm not looking. It happens a lot at my house.

[IcyNeko]

PSH.... what they need.. is CSI:Ida

[Freekzilla]

Hell, I'd love to but I gotta get up early tomorrow morning to drive to the Cape with my family. I've been told the house we rented has cable, but if they don't get Sci-Fi things may get ugly.

How does the ratings thing work anyway? Does the TV actually have to be on or can you just leave the cable box on that channel?

I think just the cable box on would work. I know that they can track what you are watching with digital cable, I don't think they can on analogue systems. Just make sure the box is on and at that channel.

Wanna hear something funny and cool. My mother who is dying of cancer, signed the SAVE SG-1 petition. Now how cool is that. It's pretty bad when a 60 year old woman with a terminal disease is P.O.'ed at a network for cancelling a TV show. SciFi channel should hang their heads in shame.

[smushybird]

How about a spin-off with five characters and we'll call them Daniel, Cameron, T'ealc, Sam Carter, and Vala? Let's see....who could we get to play 'em...

:D

Poo on Sci Fi. Poo!

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

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Calm down, Ice, he's new.

First of all, mate, welcome to Gateworld. There are loads of threads currently on Gateworld on this topic - feel free to post at any of them about the cancellation.
At this point a mod turns up to close this thread.

[Freekzilla]

I may have to settle with just the cable box. If I try to leave the TV on, I know somebody is gonna turn it off when I'm not looking. It happens a lot at my house.

Oh gee, someone turns off an unused TV and saves on the electric bill. OH mercy, such horrible people!!! :p :p :p :p :p :p Just kidding. I take it you mean someone as in your kids? Or the better half?

[stargate-x304]

so, I thought that was what this site was about posting opinions, maybe I should have posted on another thread if it is really a big deal I will be more careful. but who really cares the important thing is that we work to save stargate.

[IcyNeko]

Because the mods have to merge each fracking thread you and everyone else who thinks they NEED to start a new "save stargate" thread.

Hey, I wanna save Stargate SG-1 too.

But I'm not abotu to start a new thread everytime I think about it. It's not appropriate here. It's not appropriate ANYWHERE (in case anyone gets any bright ideas abotu spamming scifi forums.. don't. That's immature)

[Helo]

Im considering finding the cheapest tissue boxes out there, and buying like 50 bucks worth, and sending them. Online petitions help, but only if we have ALOT OF SIGNATURES. Personally I think sending lots letters and tissue boxes will help things. If everyone on gateworld sends 1 letter thats 21,000 letters. Thats alot of people. Spread the word, other websites whatever. And if anyone lives near their offices, and you have the times. Go in and schedule an appointment, be assertive. If they refuse to see you, the get the local media involved. So basically, MAKE IT A BIG DEAL. show that there are people who watch the show and want to see it come back.

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

so, I thought that was what this site was about posting opinions, maybe I should have posted on another thread if it is really a big deal I will be more careful. but who really cares the important thing is that we work to save stargate.
It is about posting opinions, not the same thread over and over again. Now I understand that people are upset and concerned about Stargate's future and it is true that we must stick together to save it. That's why I created the C.O.T.W.O.S.F. post there if you hate SciFi for making their choice to cancel.

[the fifth man]

I don't think the actors knew the show was going to get canceled. They were only told last friday. Also the EP's said Stargate would go on "in one form or another" meaning that the series may not go on. I just hope this is a negotiation ploy that Sci-Fi is using against MGM, because in that case at least there's some hope.

Even if the series doesn't go into an 11th season, I think our chances of at least getting a mini-series of a few tv movies out of this are fairly good. MGM and TPTB haven't given up, and will fight for more SG-1. I'll take what I can get.

[IcyNeko]

Im considering finding the cheapest tissue boxes out there, and buying like 50 bucks worth,

Protip: Costco's / Sam's Club

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

They're ruthless, and will do anything just to get people to watch their network - EXTERMINATE SCI FI, EXTERMINAAAAAAAAAAAATE!!! {Mod Insert - this is a Dr Who reference not a call to do any bodily harm since THAT would be against Forum rules}

[Farscapefan]

I don't think the actors knew the show was going to get canceled. They were only told last friday. Also the EP's said Stargate would go on "in one form or another" meaning that the series may not go on. I just hope this is a negotiation ploy that Sci-Fi is using against MGM, because in that case at least there's some hope.

The actors definitely didn't know the show was going to get cancelled. At SciFi.com Stargate website there were 10 clips - Outtakes not included in the SciFi Special Inside 200th episode. Among them was very short clip of Claudia Black talking potential season 11 - she was very positive about it and very positive about the audience. Now majority of these clips, including this one are not available anymore :(

[Space Monkey52]

:D
I take it you mean someone as in your kids? Or the better half?

ROTFL!

I'm only 19. I'm still living with my parents since I'm taking a year off before I go off to college down at Florida Institute of Technology (my major is astrophysics and space sciences:D), so no kids or better half yet. It would probably be one of my parents, most likely my mom since she tends to turn the TV off if nobody is in front of it.

[michey]

leave a big note on the tv saying not to turn it off, lol
cant blame them when they pay the bills though, lol

[wolverine_nl]

Giving me the creeps, all of this. I just want SG-1 in one form or another, coninuing on the current storylines

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

I'VE GOT IT!!!!!

Let's send SciFi Corperation into The Void, the dead space - some people call it hell!!!

[ahdvd]

If they cant get to another network or cant negotiate for another full season, they should try and get a 10 episode half-seasn from sci-fi, as you know that's how they will air the first half of atlantis next season, and it would be better having 10 episodes to finish the story properly of the Ori invasion and end things than a rushed 2 part mini-series, like what we got with farscape.

[diane100851]

How about a spin-off with five characters and we'll call them Daniel, Cameron, T'ealc, Sam Carter, and Vala? Let's see....who could we get to play 'em...

:D

Poo on Sci Fi. Poo!
Great idea!!!!

[IcyNeko]

... uhh.... wow, ahdvd. Welcome to the news.

We're getting the rest of season 10. Not half of season 10.

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

... uhh.... wow, ahdvd. Welcome to the news.

We're getting the rest of season 10. Not half of season 10.

I think he thinks we are in S9 currently....

[Space Monkey52]

I didn't understand that post either...

[Minder]

I think he thinks we are in S9 currently....


Only the USA is in Season 10, the rest of the world is still in or has just finished Season 9.

Not everyone understands the contract arangements with Sci Fi

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Only the USA is in Season 10, the rest of the world is still in or has just finished Season 9.

Not everyone understands the contract arangements with Sci Fi

I doubt even Sci Fi understands the correct arrangements of Sci Fi :D lol

[Space Monkey52]

Even if the series doesn't go into an 11th season, I think our chances of at least getting a mini-series of a few tv movies out of this are fairly good. MGM and TPTB haven't given up, and will fight for more SG-1. I'll take what I can get.

I heard they were thinking of doing that, but I'd really rather just have the series back if it was at all possible.

[takinspace]

you can see it in 200th

How about the fact that the entire 200 ep was based around the fact that the gate spontaneously stopped working for the first time in its history?

And the main off-screen protagonist is the network/studio/thing?

And when the gate is working again, the movie is back on, and they head off to a party?

Geez, is that a telegraphed series swan song or what?

All I'm saying is that the creators of the show have always been good about telegraphing punches and inserting subtext, usually in an offbeat, humorous way. Wouldn't put it past 'em to do 200 the way they did if someone put a bug in their ear that this was coming.

Don't forget that 200 had a happy ending... :)

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

public funded SG1 and post the episodes on you tube lol

how ****** up would that be lool

[Lida]

Nothing we did worked for Farscape, except for a lame two part mini-series. Stargate is dead in the water, thanks to the low ratings or perhaps the actors, etc, were just tired of ten years. Either way, WE can do nothing and I wish the actors, writers, etc, much success in the future. As for me watching Sciffy......since they started with wrestling, I am no longer a viewer.

[dinobot]

You'd think they would of given the ratings a chance after 200...

so is this what's it about? ratings??!!

what about loyalty?

[michey]

so is this what's it about? ratings??!!

what about loyalty?

unfortunately, scifi make the money back they spent on production through advertisers and advertisers give more money the more exposure they get.

[Lightsinger]

Of course it's about ratings. Sad but true.

But SG1 has had an incredible run, and it might be good for the crew to move on to bigger and better things. I just feel sorry for Claudia Black and Ben Browder...they must be beginning to think they are jinxes by now...:teyla:

[TheUnknown]

How about the fact that the entire 200 ep was based around the fact that the gate spontaneously stopped working for the first time in its history?

I thought the SGC purposefully did that to set up for Mitchell's party?

[Space Monkey52]

I thought the SGC purposefully did that to set up for Mitchell's party?
I seriously thought that Martin had something to do with it in the beginning. That would have been funny.

[ParadoxRealities]

The actors definitely didn't know the show was going to get cancelled. At SciFi.com Stargate website there were 10 clips - Outtakes not included in the SciFi Special Inside 200th episode. Among them was very short clip of Claudia Black talking potential season 11 - she was very positive about it and very positive about the audience. Now majority of these clips, including this one are not available anymore :(i don't know about CB, but i think TPTB have, if not known exactly, very strongly suspected it would be. sure, they've been positive at times, they have to be, but i think they've been preparing. MS, AT, CJ saw it coming too, i suspect.

^^JMO

[ParadoxRealities]

The actors definitely didn't know the show was going to get cancelled. At SciFi.com Stargate website there were 10 clips - Outtakes not included in the SciFi Special Inside 200th episode. Among them was very short clip of Claudia Black talking potential season 11 - she was very positive about it and very positive about the audience. Now majority of these clips, including this one are not available anymore :(i don't know about CB, but i think TPTB have, if not known exactly, very strongly suspected it would be. sure, they've been positive at times, they have to be, but i think they've been preparing. MS, AT, CJ saw it coming too, i suspect.

^^JMO

[PG15]

Nothing we did worked for Farscape, except for a lame two part mini-series. Stargate is dead in the water, thanks to the low ratings or perhaps the actors, etc, were just tired of ten years. Either way, WE can do nothing and I wish the actors, writers, etc, much success in the future. As for me watching Sciffy......since they started with wrestling, I am no longer a viewer.

We get it, you think it's hopeless.

Repeating it ad nauseum is definately not gonna cheer us up.

[Shep]

How does the ratingsw thing work anyway? Does the TV actually have to be on or can you just leave the cable box on that channel?

You have to be a Nielsen household, and there are only somewhere between 5000 and 6500 in the entire country, out of 111 million viewing households. If you aren't a Nielsen household, then it doesn't matter.

I tried to find an article link for you about TiVo, because they are now counting "live" viewings, and there was a kerfluffle over "live plus 7 [days]" ratings and who would accept the use of those or not, but I can't find one. I can't remember how much sway TiVo ratings have, thus wishing I could find that article, and maybe that's why Coop said to watch it live because Skiffy could be looking at TiVo ratings, too. dunno. If I find the article I was thinking of, I'll post it.

And just a thought, but it would be a lot easier and infinitely more helpful to the board members if the mods made a new forum for this. People can't easily find information, see what's been discussed or not, pitch out and work on new ideas and projects, if they have to continue to filter through onelongneverendingthreadthatjustkeepsgettingthreadsmergedintoit.

You guys might think about asking them for that, if, you know, you're at all serious about doing this.

[Space Monkey52]

You have to be a Nielsen household, and there are only somewhere between 5000 and 6500 in the entire country, out of 111 million viewing households. If you aren't a Nielsen household, then it doesn't matter.
And what idiot came up with this system? They are probably only looking at houses with men between 19-35 or something like that, even though a chunk of the fans are women.

[Shep]

And what idiot came up with this system? They are probably only looking at houses with men between 19-35 or something like that, even though a chunck of the fans are women.

I wish I knew. I can't fathom how anyone can argue that polling somewhere between 5000 and 6500 households, out of a households population of 111 million, with a 65 percent non response rate, in any way constitutes an accurate representation of viewing habits. And you can argue all the statistics nonsense you want in defense. It's still utter hogwash.

People want to know how many viewers are watching what? Get the TiVo "live plus 7" ratings. At least one can make a successful argument for more accuracy, given how many TiVo households there are by comparison. Ultimately, what would give the most accurate, I think, is cable box data. There should be an "opt in" choice for homeowners to allow their cable boxes to send their viewing data.

Otoh, Nielsen's demo segments are very well represented, and they constantly fuss with that to try and include a representation of everyone out there. This year is the first that they're moving to, and they may already have, include college students in their data collection.

[WTFOwned]

IF they want to find out what people watch and what they think of it, all the cable providers with digital cable should present the viewer with a poll after every show asking what how they would rate it, and regardless of the answer, record the fact that they did watch the show.

[Shep]

IF they want to find out what people watch and what they think of it, all the cable providers with digital cable should present the viewer with a poll after every show asking what how they would rate it, and regardless of the answer, record the fact that they did watch the show.

the problem with that kind of methodology is that it would require active participation. simply allowing an "opt in" to send data would then bypass one of Nielsen's current problems which is their obscenely high non-response rate. your idea would definately be a good one for a "what they think" post-watching data collection, but the actual viewing data shouldn't rely on a system of viewer participation, ie answering a poll, to get the data. it should just be automatically sent based on what the box is displaying.

[gameguy23]

Everyones gotta start watchin it live to get those ratings up.

[ECN]

I'm calling for the ban on the Scifi network next season if SG-1 is cancelled!!
Does anyone have an opinion on this oe how I would go about getting this started?

What is this thing called "the ban"?

Also, what is this "Scifi network"? I know of no scifi network.

I know of a "SciFi Channel".

If someone wanted to "ban" a cable/satellite channel, what would this mean?

It's not permitted to post on fan message boards?

It must be spoken of in hushed whispers?

It may not be sold except by permit, if at all?

What would it mean to "ban" SciFi Channel?

Also, what would happen to the shows currently running on it...

Like STARGATE: ATLANTIS? :S




.

[ECN]

since its on sky one over here will it continue

No.

SciFi is the primary carrier and no doubt provides most of the production money.

Without the primary carrier, it's either find another carrier and money source, or close up shop.

If Sky provided MGM with the money, that might be different...

[Dave6309]

I have started an online petition for the renewal of Stargate, pleae sign and tell others

Link

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Stargate/index.html
Guess what! There will be no SCIFI Channel next year. Nov 1 the name changes to Surge tv and they seem to like fake wresling. Though Stargate Atlantis will run and Battle Star Galatica will run( I suggest that we fans watch these shows) I think that mosr of us will find ourselves orphans on this new channel.

[rich44]

the problem with that kind of methodology is that it would require active participation. simply allowing an "opt in" to send data would then bypass one of Nielsen's current problems which is their obscenely high non-response rate. your idea would definately be a good one for a "what they think" post-watching data collection, but the actual viewing data shouldn't rely on a system of viewer participation, ie answering a poll, to get the data. it should just be automatically sent based on what the box is displaying.


In the UK our digital platforms (both Sky and NTL - Cable) both have a system for recording what you watch.

NTL digital STBs have a talkback system where they can tell what channels you are watching and when.

Sky installs are often subsidised by a media company so you only pay like £10 for a dish, box and install instead of full price in return the box has to be plugged into your phone line and it sends back the viewing info.

None of this is probably admissable as it is with the Nielsen system but the info is definitely collected, it's a shame there's no such system in the US

[ahdvd]

... uhh.... wow, ahdvd. Welcome to the news.

We're getting the rest of season 10. Not half of season 10.
I think he thinks we are in S9 currently....

No, i meant that if they cant get moved to another network for a season 11, and from the sounds of it, they havent been given notice enough to finish the story, then they should try and get a half-season for season 11, instead of 20 episodes for season 11, they should try to get 10 episodes, i would prefer that to a farscape type mini-series which will DEFINATELY feel rushed.

[Mycenia]

Guess what! There will be no SCIFI Channel next year. Nov 1 the name changes to Surge tv and they seem to like fake wresling. Though Stargate Atlantis will run and Battle Star Galatica will run( I suggest that we fans watch these shows) I think that mosr of us will find ourselves orphans on this new channel.
I think we've already established that that was a hoax. Sci-Fi will remain Sci-Fi and nothing else.

[Space Monkey52]

I think we've already established that that was a hoax. Sci-Fi will remain Sci-Fi and nothing else.
Why do people keep thinking that press release was real?

[ahdvd]

Why do people keep thinking that press release was real?
Because knowing sci-fi as they do, it's not entirely unbelievable that sci-fi [would] do it. Says a lot about sci-fi really.

[WTFOwned]

Ok, so I've designed a rather simple T-Shirt that includes the names of a few websites and a rather nice stargate on it.
Here it is:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/gruntmaps/savethegateshirt.jpg



I do plan on buying a few, possibly more if people are willing to send me a few bucks. I also might sell them on eBay. I DO NOT KNOW WHEN I WILL BE GETTING THESE SO DO NOT EXPECT TO GET ONE ANY TIME SOON OR YOU MAY BE DISAPPOINTED.

If you have any ideas of what I could add, let me know.

[Chutzpah]

Does the money go towards efforts for saving Stargate?

[WTFOwned]

All the money that doesn't go towards the shirt itself (what? you think I'm gonna buy 2 million tshirts out of my own wallet?) will go towards saving SG-1 in whatever way I find most suitable (or I might just send it all to GateWorld and let them deal with it)
also, just made this from the front of the design:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/gruntmaps/savethegate.png


EDIT:
I've only checked out one place so far, but the white on black is going to be around $40. This is because they must be "screen printed", however, we can go with black on white and get them digitally printed for much less.

EDIT:
If I get 100 screen-printed white ones, they would be 7.20 each from this place.
That's the best deal I've seen so far, and if I get more than 100 people that want them, the price per will just go down.


EDIT AGAIN:
WTF? GAH! You could have told me you merged this >_<
I'm gonna go see how much for 1000 of them, not that I think I'll get that many people wanting them...


--- FINAL EDIT ---
The final design for the T-Shirt is as follows:
The shirt will be a white, cotton short-sleeved T-shirt with the words "SAVE SG-1" on the front allong with an active Stargate and the following on the back:
savestargatesg1.com
gateworld.net
laundr.us
savestargatesg-1.com

Save the Gate
This is final and if I get 1000 through the help of people on eBay (you will most likely pre order them on ebay, because I have to buy them from the money I get) they will cost an amazing $5.14. I will most likely round the cost to nearest quarter and the change will be collected as donations. I am not guaranteeing I will make these so make sure you post here AND email me if you want one.
EMAIL: admiralbacon@gmail.com
I would have a pic but photobucket isn't working >_<

[Maxum]

20 minutes and counting until SG-1 airs on Sci-Fi.

PLEASE TUNE IN. DON'T BOYCOTT!!! Also, take note of the commercials and send out a quick e-mail to the advertisers. Trust me, THEY will notice, even if Sci-Fi doesn't.

[WTFOwned]

I'm DVRing for future reference to the advertisers and just because since I got my DVR I've recorded everything :daniel:


EDIT:
StG Shirt Update:
Here's the final t-shirt design:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/gruntmaps/stgts.jpg
And of course, for those of you who want to see if you can get it cheeper:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/gruntmaps/stgt-fw.jpg

[Space Monkey52]

So my dad runs a consultant company and I asked him about how the demonic rating system works, and apparently they have to ask you if you want to be one of the homes they use and you have to agree or else they don't use you. So apparently nobody else counts which really sucks for everybody else.

[WTFOwned]

Just had this idea:


Why don't we, as a community of viewers, take clips of each episode of SG-1 (or key episodes, we don't need all 201) and make a commemorative video to some piece of music that sounds appropriate, something slow that could invoke tears... Then we send it to NBC in some extremely special way - a way that they will listen to and, of course, watch.
(something big, like a widescreen TV and a dvd player attached to a generator in a box being shipped with care right to their front door)

We can include all the greatest scenes from the show, like when Daniel ascended, any part when someone is crying, the part in the one episode where SG-1 has the gauntlet things and the Carter and O'neill are trapped in the mothership, stuff like that.
Piece it together with appropriate music and we gotta ourselves a tear-jerker.

All for?

[janus ancient]

Your dad is correct to a extent, but watching the show when it airs does register for ratings. Just a different form. My house used to be a neilson ratings house and we asked them about this before we did the program. The neilsen ratings are used to determine demographics while watching a show live determines the amount of viewers. THis does change for some networks, but most of the time this is the formula used. This is what we were told by the neilsen ratings company.

The Conan O Brien Campaign to save Stargate Sg-1
www.alteranancients.com

Can also be found on under this thread.

[broken-heart]

I'll ask again since no one answered...that I know of.

Does anyone know who started the tissue box campaign?

[nocleversnforme]

Fox actually owns Universal, since it brought it out after Universal went backrupt with the disaester of Waterworld.

Okay, I'm still reading this thread from the beginning, but this caught my eye.

I hope you're being sarcastic, my man. Universal Pictures and Twentieth Century Fox are two separate entities, rivals might I add. Universal Pictures is part of NBC Universal, Inc. (also the parent of Sci Fi Channel), and Twentieth Century Fox is part of News Corporation.

To make sure we're on the same page: Universal Pictures owns the rights to produce Firefly movies and Twentieth Century has the rights to the Firefly television series. Twentieth Century has made it clear that they do not intend to continue the series, while Universal has not said anything about making a sequel to Serenity, the feature film based on the Firefly series.

Now, onto page 69...

[nocleversnforme]

Wow. I just read all 75 pages of this thread.

That's a lot to digest.

[broken-heart]

Wow. I just read all 75 pages of this thread.

That's a lot to digest.

Wow, you can be bothered!?

[He-who-must-not-be-cloned]

Wow. I just read all 75 pages of this thread.

That's a lot to digest.

If I tried to digest all that I would have indigestion.....

[sarc]

How can this be? I knew SG-1 was gradually deteriorating, but I never thought this would happen?!?

[OberonSky]

I just finished watching "Counterstrike", followed by "Common Ground" and the only thing I can say is, BRILLIANT!

Tonight's shows are a reminder to what makes science fiction in general and Stargate in particular the best of all genres and shows! Drama, action, humor, teamwork it's all in there and more.

Of course I cannot pass this chance to say to the Sci-Fi Channel: shame on you for breaking up the best pair of shows on TV. SG-1 and SGA both need to be together, two hours of intelligent and engaging entertainment. Fridays will never be the same with one of them missing.

This is why I believe we need something else to fill in the gap that will be left by SG-1's departure at the end of its current season. MGM, you must find a way to keep both stories going, Earth and Atlantis! Make a new series, rename the current one, whatever you do, do not go gentle into that good night!

[OberonSky]

How can this be? I knew SG-1 was gradually deteriorating, but I never thought this would happen?!?

Every season had its ups and downs, and every season of SG-1 had some bad episodes. Season 9 seems to be controversial since people either like it or hate it, with passion might I add. But, what I feel is that the majority of people liked tonight's show "Counterstrike" and I believe Sg-1 can maintain such quality and go on for another season after season 10 to finish the Ori story properly.

There is always the option to do what TPTB wanted to do after season 8 which is rename the show and start with a season 1 with lower production costs than the current 10-year old one.

In any case, after several days posting reading and arguing, I think the best thing fans can do is to write to MGM let them know you support the show and want it to continue as a series is possible or maybe mini-series etc (honestly I prefer a series to have those great 2 hours of TV on fridays go on for more years to come =P) If MGM knows that this show has a solid fan base who will subscribe to whatever channel it moves to or will buy the DVDs etc they will fight harder to keep it on.

[sarc]

I second that!!!

[silence]

After watching these two epizodes and wondering if next might be even better, i really cant understand Sci-Fi's logic... yes, S) of Sg-1 seemed like they lost course, but S10 is getting better and better, followed by really good season of SGA.

That Wraith should fed on Sci-Fi executives, not those Genii, i think people would build him monument if he did ;)

[sarc]

That Wraith should fed on Sci-Fi executives, not those Genii, i think people would build him monument if he did ;)

Heck, I'd build him a shrine in my room.

[WTFOwned]

How can this be? I knew SG-1 was gradually deteriorating, but I never thought this would happen?!?
How? Someone was doing crack over at NBC

How can you stop it?
Do SOMETHING, whether it be tissue boxes, T-shirts (buy mine! proceeds go to MGM to help them make SG-1 cheaper!), or letters.

Boycotting will not help, and they won't listen to a petition unless we have millions of signatures.

[Maxum]

I read an article on another that states that MGM can't air any new episodes of SG-1 on U.S. television due to the contract it signed with the Sci Fi channel. The article also states that Sci Fi would be interested in SG-1 if MGM lowered its licensing fees.

I mean, it is VERY early in the season to have cancelled the flagship show of your network. I do know that the Sci Fi channel does not reap any of the monetary rewards that SG-1 produces (merchandise, DVD, etc.) since they don't own the property. Basically, they air the show, but MGM reaps all the financial rewards, which would explain why Sci Fi doesn't promote SG-1, but they promote the heck out of BSG - a show it DOES own.

All of this may just be hardball negotiations. I'm just wondering if SG-1 will be coming back after next year - IF MGM agrees to lower its costs. Mark Stern (programming at Sci Fi Channel) advised that he would be interested in more SG-1 fare if MGM agreed to less.

[Cyborg509]

Hehe stop watching all Scifi shows besides SG-1 and Atlantis that might give them a hint.

[scirev]

laundr.us is down. Anyone know what happened to it?

I sent in my tissue box yesterday, I sent a Kleenex Travellers box (the SG people are travellers after all!), with a polite letter I wrote myself to SciFi addressed to Mr Mark Stern.

[starellen1]

The fans kept Star Trek on when TPTB wanted it cancelled. We can do the same for SG-1, so everyone needs to start writing those letters. The kleenex box is a good idea also, that should get their attention.

[teknikal]

I heard about this, aparently its not true, just a weird article someone posted with no standing

why!! why would someone do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

got a few shocked responses from bebo..told them to sign the petition and stuff.and to tell their friends.. its not alot..but its helping..
im gonna buy some more boxes and start sending them..i sent them full..unopened.just so they dont get THAT crushed in the mail.

[misstweedledee]

I slapped the postage right on the box, wrote "SEND MORE SG-1" on the side, covered it in clear tape and sent it off.

I will be sending more ... and more ... and more!


Hey *waves*

First and for most i am totally outraged an i am willing to do what ever it takes to SAVE SG1, so could someone please post the adress where i can send the 10,000,000 tissue boxes i plan on sending :D

misstweedledee
xXx

[Sgcfreak55]

You'd think they would of given the ratings a chance after 200...




I know!!!! I'm soooo mad. THERE BETTER BE A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!! : :weiranime22:

[Mabase]

SG-1 needs to go on atleast for another season to wrap up the Ori story then tie up the loose ends in the SG-1 universe. The SG-1 universe and the Atlantis universes depend on eachother, it would be weird to have one and not both.

So I think run SG-1 to season 11 and then end it, maybe spin off another seires based on the same universe.