What can the fans do to help SAVE SG-1?

[Dromag67]

Oh jeez just imagine what the HBO writers would do to stargate... Daniels leg would be cut off and be made a permanent cripple who then starts being confrontational and rude to everyone, and Sam would get raped the next time they went through the gate...

And Walter becomes a Prior to take revenge on SG-1 for getting all the action.

[krystina]

Someone suggested this on another thread:
We all send in empty tissue boxes with "Send more" written on them.

I though that was brilliant! And thousands of boxes are likly to get more attention then a pieces of paper.

[-PITBULL-]

Someone suggested this on another thread:
We all send in empty tissue boxes with "Send more" written on them.

I though that was brilliant! And thousands of boxes are likly to get more attention then a pieces of paper.


You know that could be the SMARTEST thing out there to do ...

[-PITBULL-]

Yeah i think if SG-1 goes to some other network , so should SG-A .... It wouldnt be right to have these shows on 2 diffrent networks ...

[Dromag67]

They mine as well cancel SGA too.

I dont wan't their dirty little paws to ever be on Stargate again.


:jack_new_anime25:

[KindlyKeller]

As an American, you're definitely not wrong about occasional 2-3 week breaks during a show's run, Fallen. I don't know what these guys are on to be telling you you're a delusional idiot regarding that point.

To put it in caps like ECN: "I GREW UP here," and that's how it is.

[bandras]

There is no legal reason unless it is in a contract... cast member A signed to say they would not work on any other show.... Networks also don't like giving too much *any* publicity to other networks no matter the reason, I think The X-Files (Fox) wanted to do a cross-over with a CBS show *can't remember the name* Chris Carter said it was scuttled by CBS fairly early on because CBS didn't want to give it's competition a foot up.

That is what I was saying, that the 2 channels wouldn't want to give each other a foot up

[JanusAncient]

Personally, I just hope they get a good ending with the Ori storyline, another season would be nice, but if they can't do that, a miniseries, something to give the fans some closure.

[Mitchell82]

Same here. IMO, after this idiot move, Sci-Fi doesn't deserve quality shows like Farscape and SG-1. God, this pi**** me off!!
I just found out five minutes ago! Please say I'm dreaming! I ust say I am very upset but lets not all panic and do soething we will regret. Stargate has lasted 10 years. A great run, Rob hiself said that SG-1 is far from over. Truth is we all expected this. We must not stop watching. We have known that this info would come quick enough so the writers can do justice to the show and end it properly unlike Farscape. This show deserves our support and we cant punnish the cast and crew for something they had no control over. We must see our favorite show to the end and continue to support Atlantis my second favorite show. Please joing me in supporting Sg-1 to the end and continue to watch Atlantis. Do we really want to see both shows cancelled. I don't. So I will stick by both shows till hell freezez over. But after both shows are gone Bye Bye Sci-Fi!

[Mitchell82]

Personally, I just hope they get a good ending with the Ori storyline, another season would be nice, but if they can't do that, a miniseries, something to give the fans some closure.
I agree and I need as many supporters to say they will contin ue to watch both shows and not blae them for soething thatt is not their fault.

[TheUnknown]

Don'y know who you are, but thank GOD you set these idiots straight. Can't believe what I've been reading. I thought SF fans were supposed to be brighter than your average bear! 1.8 million viewers couldn't compete with the worst of the worst-the biggest failure in the history of the major nets pulls in 4-5 mil!!! Also, to whomever wrote, "if it does good on Showtime..." I also thought SF fans were EDUCATED..you mean, "if it does WELL on Showtime"...

The shows pulling in 4-5 million viewers are also on networks that many people watch. Many people don't get SciFi Channel.

[Mitchell82]

Season 5 for Farscape was okayed too and still it was cancelled. Nothing is written in stone. I figured it was hanging around to get the 200th status and then go out the door. Typical Sci Fi.

Sybil
Yeah and does anyone remeber a great show that was promised a 5th year and they almost never even finished the fourth, called Lois and Clark. Damn black tie****$**#*@**$**#*#$*$**#*(@***@*@*@*@*!

[TheUnknown]

I don't remember exactly why, but I think there are some legal crap that prevent you from having crossovers between two shows on separate networks. They had that problem with Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel when BtVS switched to UPN.

Or maybe that's just because UPN and WB just didn't like each other and it's possible to have crossovers anyway if they both agree (though I don't see why different networks would matter if both shows are owned by the same company (MGM)).

Buffy and Angel still had crossovers when they were on different networks.

[Mitchell82]

Following in IcyNeko's footsteps, I've made my own "campaign vid", it's on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eLooaLVAIk

I hope it'll serve some kind of purpose.
Great vid i cried! Please tell me no matter what you will stay with both shows till the end.

[andromeda_fate]

I agree. I don't think Sci-Fi ever intended on renewing SG-1 for an 11th season. The sole purpose of this entire season was to get SG-1 the title. It's as simple as that. The boys at Bridge wanted to rename the new series Stargate Command and start fresh, but Sci-fi wouldn't agree to it. So now they have their title and SG-1 gets the boot. Whatever. Hopefully MGM will give them a movie deal so SG-1 doesn't have to deal with Sci-Fi anymore. Now I have no reason for watching the channel at all.
Ditto!! You know I kind of expected it to be cancelled after season 10 but reading it in black and white came as a major shock! I feel like I'm going to cry. (If they had cancelled Atlantis as well I would have) They'd better do an SG-1 movie!

[KindlyKeller]

Don'y know who you are, but thank GOD you set these idiots straight. Can't believe what I've been reading. I thought SF fans were supposed to be brighter than your average bear! 1.8 million viewers couldn't compete with the worst of the worst-the biggest failure in the history of the major nets pulls in 4-5 mil!!! Also, to whomever wrote, "if it does good on Showtime..." I also thought SF fans were EDUCATED..you mean, "if it does WELL on Showtime"...

I thought SF fans could spell "don't."

[The Doctor]

Well, this has to be some sort of message. The news was broken less than 24 hours ago and the petition is already going on 5000 signatures and every thread here is going crazy! At the very least, MGM and the producers can see that we're willing to do anything to get more SG1.

[Mesenet]

I think the cancellation was a foregone conclusion...no coincidence this has come out so soon after 200...Sci Fi wanted it to get to 200 and not much further HMMM, or could it be a publicity ploy? In general Sci-fi does very little to promote itself. Now there is a slew of free press first with 200 and now the cancellation right on the high of the eposide with a rating of 1.9. The buzz will go on for weeks. IMO, it seems all too convenient.


But...there should be an SG1 movie! :indeed:
If the cancellation sticks, TPTB should take the time to TAKE A BREAK, then come back refreshed to regroup to build a strong movie base to make SG-1 into the new sci - fi movie franchaise for the next decade (ie. Star Wars, Star Trek, Star Trek:TNG, Star Wars).

[teknikal]

im in shock......i cannot believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sg1 isnt just a show...its..its an institution...it has brough loads of people to together!!
shame on sci-fi....they have just made THE stupidist decision ever!!!!

[Marcus117]

Listen, everyone... right now theres a push to get a site up, a head quarters if you will for every save stargate campaign... so that we DON'T have multiple petitions and ideas, with fan focus getting watered down between them all.

Please can everyone try to remain ordered, and calm, and not let anything get out of hand before we can organise ourselfs into a more EFFECTIVE army.

- Marcus

[michey]

Listen, everyone... right now theres a push to get a site up, a head quarters if you will for every save stargate campaign... so that we DON'T have multiple petitions and ideas, with fan focus getting watered down between them all.

Please can everyone try to remain ordered, and calm, and not let anything get out of hand before we can organise ourselfs into a more EFFECTIVE army.

- Marcus

I am nearly ready with a site but could use a hand form someone with good expertise, anyone who can help could they pm me?
I made the original petition and have that on there as well as the promo vid from IceNeko and address for writing etc

[The Ori]

Start a pettiton to get O'Neill back!!

[The Ori]

Hopefully another network will buy it!!

[Seastallion]

I really like the idea of sending thousands of tissue boxes to sci-fi that say "Send more" (like the pilot of SG-1). If sci-fi had piles of tissue boxes, that might make for a dramatic show for all the SG-1 fans. In this case, I think the more dramatic, the better..! :)

[Arative]

Here is a website put together by someone, I apologize I don't recall who made it, the link was in the thread on stargate cancelled in the news section.
Its a well made site with good info. Its a good starting place and staging place for fans.

http://www.savestargatesg-1.com/

[tyro]

maybe if the costs are so much, they should get back to simpler style of stories, keeping the expolsions of course, but anyway they do it, i really hope they do it, remeber the fans brought back Farscape, we can do it for SG1 too

[Jades]

rydra_wong on LJ has some excellent points about what fans can do: http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/11581.html?view=113981#t113981


Here is some of the stuff we learnt (will edit to add as I remember stuff and recover from the flashbacks); feel free to link, copy or circulate anything that sounds useful:

1) Nobody really gives a **** about internet petitions - too easy to rig, indicative of too little effort. E-mails aren't taken very seriously. Snail mail (preferably hand-written) is most likely to have an impact, and is taken even more seriously than faxes or phone calls.

(Although it's kind of fun to break Skiffy's fax machines and jam their switchboard. And if you want to sign the net petitions and send e-mails, feel free - but do so as well as writing letters, not instead.)

Write your own letters (instead of using a template) - something that looks spontaneous is more convincing that something that's obviously part of an organized campaign. Mention if you're part of a desirable demographic group.

http://www.stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=650 is listing relevant addresses and phone numbers.

2) Be polite. Be sane. Don't threaten, rant, froth at the mouth, or otherwise look crazy, and try to stop other people from doing so. Nutball obsessive fans can be ignored; concerned viewers are more likely to be seen as representative of something.

3) This is not just about Skiffy. The financial situation of the production and distribution companies make a huge, huge difference. MGM apparently does really well out of the Stargate franchise, and it's a cost-saver for them to be able to share production costs between SG-1 and SGA. So they have a motivation to look for another home for the show or a way to continue it in another form.

Think about writing to them as well to encourage them, and writing to other networks/channels to ask if they'd be interested in picking up the show.

4) If you want to put your money where your mouth is, look at the revenue streams. Stuff like DVD sales and sales on iTunes (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/08/istargatei_arrives_on_itunes.shtml) have a direct impact on the revenue streams and whether something is seen as viable or not.

5) Keep watching the show, keep watching the ratings. Anything you can do to boost ratings of the remaining episodes may have some impact, although don't get your hopes too high.

6) Consider the advertisers. Keep track of the companies that advertise during showings of SG-1, and get their addresses. Write to thank them for their support of the show, let them know of your disappointment at the cancellation, and say you hope they'll continue to support SG-1 if it moves elsewhere. It's a very big bonus if you can say you bought the product after seeing it advertised during SG-1.

This is a less direct tactic and a longer shot, but remember, it's the advertisers who provide Skiffy with their major source of income from the show, and there was some evidence during the "Save Farscape" campaign that many advertisers do take notice of letters like this.

7) Don't bash other fandoms, even when they look like the "competition", even when you're tempted, even when they're being smug on their bulletin boards. That pisses off and alienates all the people who may be involved in both fandoms, and makes you look crazy.

In particular, I'd suggest that you guys should look to stay very friendly with the people who are primarily SGA fans. Losing SG-1 is going to hurt the budgets for their show, and they're potentially the next in line for the axe. They're not your rivals - you have a common interest.

8) Send fan mail to the cast, crew, directors and writers (at least the ones you like) to say thank you and let them know you cared. It cheers them up.

9) Protect yourself against burnout. If you're seriously invested in a show, this **** hurts. Hurt leads to craziness, craziness leads to ripping into each other, and that leads to the (Fandom Wank) the Dark Side.

So take breaks. Write porn. Gafiate as needed. Enjoy your show. Take care of yourselves. Stay sane. Or, not any crazier than you were to begin with.

[SciFiGirl]

i'm devistated.. i'll be posting "save stargate" stuff on my website, along with links to these new sites.

[seasong]

So still hasn't ben offical confrimed. But rumor is StargateSG-1 has been bud nipped. So sad. If this is true it would be great if we could have closures on some of the isuse still out there. Like Daniel's Granpa, Sarah.Casandra etc.Woulsn't it be a hoot to see it thru their eyes after say x amount of years. Thanks gang .:S

[Konrad9]

As sad as I am about SG-1 getting cancelled, people shouldn't be signing the peitition over and over again.

[FallenAngelII]

Buffy and Angel still had crossovers when they were on different networks.

Very few and far inbetween and it was never Angel and Buffy crossing over anymore. Well, Buffy did "crossover" once during season 5 of Angel, but that wasn't even Sarah Michelle Gellar.

[Fatewarns]

send your non-threatening letters scifi channel


Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

[IcyNeko]

Okay kids. I uploaded the video to Youtube. Hopefully it's not violating their rules... it shouldn't, considering all teh music videos that are out there. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnMQ_izNvGw

[Nuttdriver]

Let them know they are making a mistake!

feedback@scifi.com

[ancientaction]

don't know if this is the right thread to post this. im at work, diging as quickly as i can. but if Sci-Fi wants to cxl, and cooper thinks it can continue on another network, the only one i know of that might accept it, would be UPN. they might not keep it very long, like they did with other adopted series, but it might be long enought to put a very good end to sg-1

[Qtyled]

Okay kids. I uploaded the video to Youtube. Hopefully it's not violating their rules... it shouldn't, considering all teh music videos that are out there. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnMQ_izNvGw

Nice vid man! Now everone rate it and comment it so it gets on the front page of YouTube! (hopefully)

[michey]

sci fi talks about cancellation and wants to move cast over to alantis

Stargate: SG-1," the longest-running science-fiction series in TV history, has finally reached the end of its journey, going out of production after the final episodes of its 10-year run are completed.
Ratings for the series' original runs had fallen off from 2.55 million total viewers (Jan. 21-March 25, 2005) to 1.95 million in the current cycle (July 14-Aug. 18) on the Sci Fi Channel. But the series was still racking up a solid 1.13 million adults 25-54 and 1.02 million adults 18-49 during the last eight weeks.

The cancellation "was not a ratings-driven decision," said Mark Stern, exec VP of original programming for the Sci Fi Channel. "We're actually going out on a high note," he said, as the net has given the production staff enough time to usher the series to a conclusion tying up all the loose ends.

Stern said Sci Fi plans to use some of the cast members of "SG-1" on the successful "Stargate: Atlantis" sequel, now in its third season and still going strong.

While it's transitioning off the air, "Stargate" is moving into Internet downloads for the first time.

MGM made a deal with Apple to start selling episodes of both "Stargate: SG-1" and "Stargate: Atlantis" on Monday. Studio put up several library episodes of each skein, and it will post new episodes for sale the day after they air on Sci Fi.

Deal for Internet downloads is the first MGM has made with its vast TV library.

"SG-1" had an unusual history, starting off as an original series on Showtime, where it ran for five years (1997-02). Simultaneously, Sci Fi Channel was playing the reruns of "SG-1" five times a week.

When Showtime canceled "SG-1" in 2002, Sci Fi decided to keep it in production. Throughout all of these years, producer-distributor MGM-TV was pocketing additional revenues by selling from "SG-1" in weekend off-net syndication.

As late as 2000-01, "SG-1" was averaging a solid 2.8 household rating in rerun syndication, with a 1.9 rating in adults 18-49. During the last year, its household rating in syndication has slipped to a 1.6, consistent with the overall decline in syndicated sci-fi action hours.

Sci Fi Channel is well stocked with original series. In addition to "Stargate: Atlantis," net schedules two successful original scripted series, "Battlestar Galactica" and "Eureka." A new scripted series, "The Dresden Files," produced by Nicolas Cage's company, kicks off in January.

[IcyNeko]

Boy, talk about a bunch of retards. Mixing in SG-1 personnel with SG:A is going to ruin character dynamics.

[Valtharus]

Okay kids. I uploaded the video to Youtube. Hopefully it's not violating their rules... it shouldn't, considering all teh music videos that are out there. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnMQ_izNvGw

FOR THE FURLINGS!!!

lol :D

~Valtharus

[IcyNeko]

According to another thread, Scifi wants to port SG-1 cast to SG:A. Talk about ruining character dynamics.

[IcyNeko]

I will say this...

I will support Scifi's decision of replacing Stargate SG-1 with Star Trek Enterprise...





... if all they air are Hoshi episodes. With just Hoshi. *wink wink*

[jenks]

The main thing fans can do is (if you have Sci Fi) watch the show live.

Even if it doesn't convince them to renew the show, it will help persuade other channels that SG-1 is worth having on their station.

[AnUbIs2004]

I will say this...

I will support Scifi's decision of replacing Stargate SG-1 with Star Trek Enterprise...





... if all they air are Hoshi episodes. With just Hoshi. *wink wink*

Well would this be a NC-17? Then I might just consider this........;)

[IcyNeko]

I like your style, brotha. :D
Edit: Just imagine the enter-the-enterprise sweepstakes. :O

[smushybird]

The cancellation "was not a ratings-driven decision," said Mark Stern, exec VP of original programming for the Sci Fi Channel.

Wow. His mother should wash his mouth out with soap after a lie like that.
He ought to be ashamed of himself.

[Valtharus]

Wow. His mother should wash his mouth out with soap after a lie like that.
He ought to be ashamed of himself.


was it a lie though, or is he confirming what people have been saying, they onylw wanted a show with 200 eps under their belt

~Valtharus

[miju]

Fluff and Ruffle BradVD says everyone watch Live!!!!!!!! Like I watch live!

http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5696561&postcount=148

[ZakeD]

6714 signatures on the petition. :jack: WHOO! By the time anyone reads this it'll probably be 7000.

[Stargate Orion]

1: am i Pissed off...HELL YES
2: will i let this show go quitley in to the Night.....**** NO

am i gona be mailing scifi and Mgm HELL YES

we need to raly to one another and show them that this is not right and we will not stand for it

btw


Quote:
Originally Posted by michey
The cancellation "was not a ratings-driven decision," said Mark Stern, exec VP of original programming for the Sci Fi Channel.

thats sum bulllllll **** this is the same reason they Cut startrek enterprise from the Air they wanted more Raiting's so they Cut it and put Americas next top modle on in its place.

well look what happend we Bloged we sent in Litters we wrote Emaills and there talking right now about makeing a new Trek move the point here is

WE CAN MAKE THEM DO WHAT WE WANT even if they doint know it

Orion

[Alaric3]

I think that all fans of SG1 should present a ban on ALL products and shows advertised on the Sci Fi Channel until such time as the Sci Fi Channel changes their mind about Stargate SG1.

I believe that this is the way to really tell a network how you feel. Ban the true source of their income.

It should be made public that Stargate fans will ban your products if you advertise them on Sci Fi Channel.

Spread the word. This can work.

For anyone who thinks of a product ban as harsh let me put it this way.

Commercial Television is paid by advertisement. They give us shows to make us watch the advertisements. If they do not give us what we want then we should not give them what they want.

Why would we? We owe them no allegiance unless they have done right by us.

It is not a threat it is acting upon a breach of unwritten contract.
Edit/Delete Message

[The Signal]

How many times do people need to be told? It means nothing if you don't have a sodding neilson box, if you don't have one, watch it whenever you want, it wont matter!.

[Morbo]

How many times do people need to be told? It means nothing if you don't have a sodding neilson box, if you don't have one, watch it whenever you want, it wont matter!.

indeed.
which is why shows went on for long long times in the 70s and 80s when people would use their VCR to record them, and ratings weren't determined by handing out crappy boxes to people who really watch bad shows anyway.

Seriously. Think about how many shows went like 5-10 seasons in the 70s, 80s, and ending in the 90s. Way before shows were given a 2 episode chance and if they weren't immediately popular, are cancelled.

[Jumper One]

I think that all fans of SG1 should present a ban on ALL products and shows advertised on the Sci Fi Channel until such time as the Sci Fi Channel changes their mind about Stargate SG1.

I believe that this is the way to really tell a network how you feel. Ban the true source of their income.

It should be made public that Stargate fans will ban your products if you advertise them on Sci Fi Channel.

Spread the word. This can work.

For anyone who thinks of a product ban as harsh let me put it this way.

Commercial Television is paid by advertisement. They give us shows to make us watch the advertisements. If they do not give us what we want then we should not give them what they want.

Why would we? We owe them no allegiance unless they have done right by us.

It is not a threat it is acting upon a breach of unwritten contract.
Edit/Delete Message
Please... whatver you do... DO NOT stop watching SG-1 and SGA on SciFi! It'll hurt the chances of continuing on on another network. Boycott any other show and prodcuts you want on SciFi, but not the Gates!

[Jumper One]

OK, so I have a question (I'm getting a little confused). If I have a TiVo and I don't have a Neilson box, is it alright that I TiVo the episodes?

[the fifth man]

I plan on boycotting Sci-Fi after SG-1 ends. After that, I'll only watch SGA and maybe BSG. Other than that, they'll have totally lost me as a fan, whether it counts for anything or not. I emailed them telling them that too.

[Morbo]

yes

[sg1_david]

We could always do what the Star Trek fans did... Flood the network with angry letters to the point where they're annoyed enough to make announcement saying "Stargate: SG-1 is renewed, please stop sending angry letters."
And what colour is the sky in your world? Star Trek didn't get 'renewed'.

[IcyNeko]

Dibs on Amanda Tapping.

Huh? Oh. Yeah, I guess she's not technically something they can auction off. Heh heh...

*sheepishly scurries away... to raise money to buy out AT's contract*
Dibs on Doc Frais... oh right, she's not there anymore.

...
...
.....

Dibs on... Cassandra? :D

[Emperor28]

Fellow Gateheads the show needs its ratings and because most of you record it on Tivo and watch it later, it doesn't help at all with the SCI-FI channel ratings of the show. If you all pitch in and just sit back and watch it live then everyone has contributed to making sure the Sci-Fi channels board of directors change their opinion on the "so-so cancellation".

[The Signal]

*head/desk* How many times do I have to say it, if you dont have a Neilson box, it doenst matter either way! And I doubt they will reconsider what must have been a very hard choice anyway, one that they say isnt based on ratings alone!

[michey]

petition is over 7000 now, i was thinking once it hits ten, not to send it to mgm yet or anything, but to stargate studios, to let them know what we are doing the petition and pther things, just to let them know the support they have from then fans.
what do you guys think?

[xxmynameismikexx]

they need to be getting more of these Neilson box thingys to all of america and i dunno how they do ratings in the u.k on sky+ or if they do but if its a box i want one! infact i want 5!

[Aroura-Gate]

If you want some thing done do it your self, Ive sent an email to scifi asking there reasons for cancling stargate sg1, it is my belif that if more people start to talk to Scifi asking why they are doing this we might get an answer or some thing but to cry and whine, do some thing about it take action... Now!

[sueKay]

You do realise they'll have had thousands of identical emails.

They'll record how many emails they've recieved and delete them...that's all.

[Aroura-Gate]

Thats fine well just keep sending them until we get an answer and then well keep sending them

[Lord Zedd]

Of course we realise that they had those emails but we have to do something ! What if in 3 months or so on GateWorld appears an article that says : Fans keeps SG1 alive. Season 11 confirmed ! or Fans saved SG1 from dying ! Stargate fans forces Scifi to keep SG1 alive ! Wouldn't that be great?

[sueKay]

I'll say this as politely as I can in my currently foul mood.

Welcome to GateWorld

USE.THE.SEARCH.ENGINE

how many threads do we have about this already?

[Lesleyp]

I'll say this as politely as I can in my currently foul mood.

Welcome to GateWorld

USE.THE.SEARCH.ENGINE
how many threads do we have about this already?

Apparently alot ;)
I haven't seen people this riled up since I started that downloading thread:S
Anyways folks. Here's a copy of the email I sent to CHum ltd. Please cut and paste and send the email with your name and contact info:

August 22, 2006

Executive Office:
299 Queen Street West
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M5V 2Z5
Tel: 416-591-5757
Fax: 416-591-8497
Email: info@chumlimited.com


Dear Sir/Madam:

As I’m sure you are now aware, the US Sci fi Channel has cancelled Stargate SG1 after it’s ground breaking 10th season.

This television series remains intensely popular. As you are also aware, SG1 is filmed and produced in Canada at the Bridge Studios in British Columbia.

What a wonderful gift it would be, if Chum Ltd. rewarded it’s customers (and the world) by contacting MGM and negotiating the rights that Sci Fi had, so that SG1 could have one last season (11) owned by our own SPACE. A season that would be even more wonderfully Canadian.

I truly hope that you consider this suggestion.

[Arative]

OK, so I have a question (I'm getting a little confused). If I have a TiVo and I don't have a Neilson box, is it alright that I TiVo the episodes?

If you opted in, Tivo does share information with Nielsen on what is recorded on their system. This is why you have Live ratings and Live + same day to account for the time shifting. When more people watch the recording that live on tivo's system, it means to advertisers that less people are watching their ad's. According to nielsen's website, they monitor Tivo subscribers and DirectTV users with DVR's but only if you agreed to opt in. So yes using Tivo to watch it at a later date does hurt stargate but only if you agreed to let Tivo share your information.

[michey]

Oh i realise that, I would delete if I knew how lol.
thanks for signing!!!!

[savestargate]

I have just joined the forum to help save stargate. I have read the forums for years, but now I must join to help save stargate. For all those who haven't joined the forum, please join to show your support for stargate.

[SpyDude]

I was just wondering how many people signed the farscape petition to get peacekeeper wars mini-series? We have 7500 signatures right now.

[srg]

Such a shame.:(

I've signed the petition.

[Stargater59]

bring back richard dean anderson

keep sg-1 and atlantis BOTH alive

YES! RDA leaving, that had to hurt SG-1 BADLY, i bet if he came back the shows ratings would go back up

BTW dibs on walter, lol!

[windshieldbug]

I traditionally read/post and on the Sony Forums. However....I like to read these forums. I've already put my name on that petition. I don't think it will do us much good though.....but hope is alive.

[nyxlily]

To those who say it only matters if you have a Nielsen box: While it is true, to an extend, that ratings are directedly derived from Nielsen familes, Tivo and DVRs and cable boxes also send in data regarding what its viewers are watching. If the viewers had opted in (which I have). So I don't know how MUCH of an impact that would make, but watching it LIVE via those devices would help.

Also, by mailing the channel and its sponsors, YOU can let them know DIRECTLY that you are not watching SCIFI for any shows other than the Stargates. Ratings might mean everything to them, but with enough people letting them know they are LOSING an audience, they would have to take that into account as well as the ratings.

So we aren't useless in this cause just because we don't have that Magic Box, we can still make an impact. We just have to do the campaigns to let them know about it.

Edited to add:

I'm sure its been repeated over and over and over.. but it does bear repeating. Online petitions might not hurt, but it has next to zero impact to the ptb's. Mailing a physical letter or postcard would be a much much better alternative.

[Stargater59]

I think i signed it twice....?

[michey]

dont worry me and a few helpers are going trough and deleting double posts and posts with obscenity, we want this to be taken seriously so we need to get rid of some posts that people have written

[ancientaction]

I know what we can do, if they cxl SG-1, we boycott scifi for everything, (other than atlantis of cource!!!)

[Lokii]

I signed.

I can't say I am surprised if this report is accurate. Seasons 9 and 10 are really different that previous seasons.

[Fatewarns]

send your letter or postcard here

Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

[Fatewarns]

send your letters or postcard here

Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

[GATEGOD]

7,767... so far and the show got cancelled =*(

[fantastyfreak]

I love Stargate NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Scif Channel's getting it. Those stupid.............................. idiots. I feel like throwing my tv out the window now. Mannnn! Who knows Scifi Channel's phone number b/c they are getting it!
Well anyways, *takes deep breath and counts to 10* I will be writing a hundred emails to Scifi Channel and boycotting their whole network and subsidaries except for stargate which I will make an effort to watch every airing of Stargate till they change their decision of cancelling SG1. My dad and me every week watch this show together and b/c of his hours that is the only time I bond with him every week. When he hears the news I will not be suprised if he gathers all the Stargate fans with torches to riot outside of their headquaters. Come on fans we can do it! We can stop Stargate from suffering the fate of Arrested Development another masterpiece which recieved the same fate

[J. Stone]

I have a question. Why only one petition? Just wondering. It seems to me that several would have more of an impact than one.

[Space Monkey52]

I actually got sick when I read about this this morning. Six hours later I'm still sick. This sucks. The actors are nice people, they don't deserve this. This is a steady job for them, leave it alone! And who cares about the ratings? They get them the wrong way anyhow. They look at the wrong target audience and they use too small of a base group.

I'm sure as hell sending in letters, I hope everybody else will too! And thank you to Fatewarns for putting up the addresses.

[michey]

I have a question. Why only one petition? Just wondering. It seems to me that several would have more of an impact than one.

lots of petitons would just have the same people posting in each one, the networks know this and therefore wouldn't really bother to look at more than one anyway

[TheUnknown]

Very few and far inbetween and it was never Angel and Buffy crossing over anymore. Well, Buffy did "crossover" once during season 5 of Angel, but that wasn't even Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Faith was in two episodes and Willow was in one of Angel Season 4, and Andrew was in a Season 5 episode (it was supposed to be Dawn, though). Also, Angel was in Buffy's series finale.

[fantastyfreak]

I found their phone numbers:
SciFi Channel viewer comment line: (212) 413-5000
SciFi Channel programming line: (212) 413-5821
SciFi Channel comments line: (212) 413-5577

[J. Stone]

lots of petitons would just have the same people posting in each one, the networks know this and therefore wouldn't really bother to look at more than one anyway

Good point. Thanks.

[mahram]

I tried to warn my fellow gateheads. I wanted fandom support in getting the idea of replacing the writers and producers. That ratings downfall wasnt due to the show concept or long in the tooth syndrome but the lack of stories that fans want and desire. That the writers have been ignoring fans. there are fans here who would watch stargate regardless of the quality or stories. They are the people who would even read fan fiction of stargate. If only you guys would have listen, there would have been a chance, those slight to give stargate one more chance. By replacing the producers and the writers. I kept saying the problem with the show was the lack of continuity with the first 5 seasons and stories never revisited. Look at the quality and theme of the show first 5 and compare them with the last 5. Nuff said. Its good for us b/c now we get movies. But I feel sorry for all the people in vancouver, who would be losing jobs. GATEHEADS, stop being fans who would just read and watch every pieace of stargate related stuff and demand quality. Hint hint, atlantis.

[Saneth]

Taken off the savesg1 forums. "One of the best ideas I have heard has been for viewers to send empty tissue boxes with the words 'send more' written on them (in reference to Children of the Gods) to MGM".

I think it would be amazing if we can get even a quarter of the people who signed the petition to send empty tissue boxes to MGM. It could make a difference and maybe they'll see how much we truly want to keep SG1 going.
So /sign this thread if you have sent them and please post this thread on as many forums as you can. We could even go as far as sending them to Sci-Fi and MGM. Addresses are as follow:

Charles Cohen, Executive Vice President
MGM Television Entertainment,
10250 Constellation Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA, 90067

Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

*Remember to /sign here if you have sent them and post on other forums!

[Saneth]

/sent

[The_Fifth]

Chile(concepción) to Canada(Vancouver)...
Sending !

[Linkinparkgundam]

*runs off the Costco to buy tons of tissues*

I am so going to sent them tons and tons of boxes..... I will evil about it too.....

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[OberonSky]

A long time lurker first time poster, someone said it best: losing SG-1 is like losing an old friend ..

I have been a fan of Stargate (Movie, SG-1, SGA, and currently can't wait till the MMO Stargate Worlds be released) .. a great show, wonderful characters, and sad to see it treated this way by the SciFi/NBC pencil pushers.

Quality SciFi shows are disappearing .. all we get now are wrestling, reality-shows, and American-Idol type shows .. great .. I wonder if the general IQ of the population is declining due to these shows or the other way around ..

As all fans should do, I signed the petition, sent emails, and decided to post on the GateWorld forums to show my dismay at the decision of canceling the show.

Some things I would like to say to whoever is reading this from the "exec" types of TV/Networks, if the decision to end this show was based on the ratings of the infamous 5,000 Nielsen families then you do not deserve your jobs.

Ratings were affected by the shift in time slot, the lack of BSG, the competition with "Monk" and "Psych" which happen to be running on USA Network (NBC owned .. same as SciFi - hmm do these people coordinate together or like to compete with themselves to the detriment of all their shows?)

Many said the summer would not be a good indicative, other talk of the rising cost of actor salaries etc for a show lasting as long as SG-1. Still, for SciFi to lose its most notable show that made it what it is today is a very bad decision.

The petition to save SG-1 is getting responses from all over the world, heck I have seen Arabs and Israelis type in the petition comments agreeing that SG-1 must be saved, pretty much the only thing they agree on right now.

IF SciFi has so little faith in SG-1 then I rather see the show along with SGA move to another network altogether, to me having been through the "ratings low so let us cancel the show" with Farscape and Enterprise and it is becoming very annoying. I subscribe to CABLE and pay money so I don't have to be a slave to this "ratings" frenzy that dictates the decisions of the "Networks CBS ABC NBC etc." why do they have to use the same methods in judging cable shows?

MGM, you own a great franchise, do not let the bean-counters who lack imagination drive SG-1 off the air. There are many things that you can do to keep the millions of fans in the US and all over the world happy, the ones who buy the DVDs, the ones who buy the games/merchandise.

1) Take the show to another network, many mentioned SpikeTV, or FX, etc. but I personally prefer SHOWTIME. Being premium cable, SHOWTIME does not depend on the Nielsen ratings that much if at all. The president of SHOWTIME as far as I remember mentioned that they would like to have SG-1back.

2) Continue the story with a different show, rearrange the cast, create a show called "Stargate Command" start with a lower cost season 1 for that instead of the higher cost season 11. Give that new show enough publicity, and make it available for downloading on iTunes etc. Also, remember the success of the upcoming Stargate MMO will also depend on having SG-1 type shows on TV.

3) Continue the show in movie format, like Star Trek did with the original series. These movies would do well all over the world as well as the US considering the number of fans.

Finally. many thanks to all the people who made SG-1 what it is today. Sad to see intelligent SciFi shows get canceled in favor of idiotic reality-TV type shows.

Best regards,
SG-1 Fan

[IcyNeko]

Hooboy, this is going to be a media circus by the time it's all over...

[ZakeD]

Wow. This petition is getting big pretty darn fast. 8000 sigs. Good job starting this thing.

[Saneth]

Oh for the love of... look, tragic as the news is, you are waisting your time, Sci-fi doesnt want it, it cant afford it because of the absolute fortune it costs per season of SG1, and no matter how many emails you write, petitions you start, or tissue boxes you send, they arent going to change their minds. As for MGM, why send it to them, THEY want it to carry on and will look for somewhere to broadcast the show from S11 onwards, but its unlikely they will achieve this as no one wants an old show.

But fine, send it off, sign the petitions, do whatever you think will help. You say I have given up, I say you are in denial and the victim of blind faith, nothing we do matters at this stage, its now up to TPTB and the various networks to decide.

You never know what you can accomplish until you try it. So maybe nothing will happen, and our efforts will go in vain. At least we can live knowing we put effort forth to make a difference for the better.

[michey]

it just shows how much the fans love the show and how it should be kept at all cost

[Scyld]

This is the "I Cancelled Sci Fi Channel" Thread. I'll go first.

I just cancelled the Sci Fi Channel. Post here when you do the same.

I'm afraid I am unwilling to cancel the Sci-Fi channel, as I still have the rest of season 10 of SG-1 to watch. Not to mention season 3 of Atlantis, season 3 of Battlestar Galactica, and (eventually) season 4 of Atlantis.

Those three shows are the only things I watch on that station, mind you. O_o

[ZakeD]

We still have a looong time to try and get them to reconsider. :jack:

[St@rbuck]

it worked for Veronica mars fans :) they got another season :)

Although part of me does think it should end now on a sorta high rather than dragging it on
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[DeathToOri]

www.savesg1.org

Please check out my website. We can do this !! SG-1 Cannot die!

:jack: :tealc: :sam: :daniel: :cameron: :vala: :hammond: :jonas:

[michey]

absolutely and a long time for MGM to find a new network

[Dr.J_girl]

Ahhh no not my sg1 i love them it will kill me

[siXbrownSnakes2]

Well, there was already a www.savestargatesg-1.com website made ><

[Saneth]

I'm really pushing the tissue box idea across multiple forums. Please add it to your websites and make this a world wide movement.

[MikeRasschaert]

The best way to let them know that you want to renew the show is to make sure every fan out there watches the show when it it comes on. Not watching is a bad move,even if it meant out of spite against sci-fi.
I'm not really sure if petitions really help out here. If the PTB at sci-fi decide to pull the plug, there would be a miracle needed to undue that decision.
Let's not forget why they are doing this. Every network knows the longer a show runs, the bigger the production costs get. It was one of the reasons why the WB cancelled Seventh Heaven (not that it was a great show). Than again, the WB is as smart when it comes to cancel shows that are quality and to keep the quantity shows.
It all comes down to the dollar.

[JackGyver]

This is exactly what Robert Cooper just said NOT to do. :rolleyes:

[miju]

There's already a fabulous and brilliant scientist there:mckay: hehe

that's my "mckay voice" and you have Zelenka, too and Beckett you don't need supersam.........

but you do need an archaeologist so send Jackson, otherwise every other type of personnel is covered there.:daniel:

[Saneth]

I do know, I have seen the wonders that the Browncoat community worked, but that doesnt happen very often. Im not saying dont do it, but at the same time stop harrasing the entire Gater community to do these sorts of things, it might make you feel like you did something, but at the same time you have to realise that there are so many who want to let the show go down with dignity, rather than become a laughing stock in Season 13 because it has gone on beyond its sell by date, some people just want to mourn the show and move on, remembering what it was with love.

Mourn away. I DONT want the show to end and i'm going to put my all forth to see that we can get up to season 13. I'm not harrasing anyone, if you dont want to do it then dont, and dont read my posts.

[Scyld]

I'll do it. Why? Because I've seen these things work in the past.

Farscape got its mini-series conclusion thanks to its fans.
Firefly got its movie thanks to its fans.

[ZakeD]

Whats with the whole donation thing? Kinda looks like you're trying to take advantage of sg-1 getting cancelled. I know I could be wrong..but still..

[jenks]

I'll do it. Why? Because I've seen these things work in the past.

Farscape got its mini-series conclusion thanks to its fans.
Firefly got its movie thanks to its fans.

Nope.

[jeb]

I do know, I have seen the wonders that the Browncoat community worked, but that doesnt happen very often. Im not saying dont do it, but at the same time stop harrasing the entire Gater community to do these sorts of things, it might make you feel like you did something, but at the same time you have to realise that there are so many who want to let the show go down with dignity, rather than become a laughing stock in Season 13 because it has gone on beyond its sell by date, some people just want to mourn the show and move on, remembering what it was with love.

Yeah, that's why 8000+ signed the petition in less than a day. A lot of people still enjoy the show, even if it's cheesy at times.

.

[DeathToOri]

No not at all, advertising and tissue boxes add up :)

[bandras]

People FCOL You won't achieve anything, by NOT watching SG-1 anymore!
Don't you see, that the RATINGS are the reason for the cancel!
So PLEASE everyone who has SCI-FI ( I don't have it since I live in Hungary ) WATCH IT!
You don't have to watch the other shows, but SG-1 (And SGA of course :D ) - That's the only way to convince an another channel to buy a S11
Correct me if I'm wrong

[Major Gambit]

someone even paid for a commercial to go on for Farscape. Hmmm....whos got money :D

[miju]

I'm afraid I am unwilling to cancel the Sci-Fi channel, as I still have the rest of season 10 of SG-1 to watch. Not to mention season 3 of Atlantis, season 3 of Battlestar Galactica, and (eventually) season 4 of Atlantis.

Those three shows are the only things I watch on that station, mind you. O_o

ditto:cool:

[AcidSquid]

Okay now as I rant your mouse may drift to the Reputation button.
Feel free.

Now, SG-1 has had a long life. Longer than a lot of cats. So when I say what I have to say, think about a cat. Okay now to start off, we all know that SG-1 had been not renewed after 10 seasons. I think that it was SG-1's time to die.
-The writing was getting pathetic
-The new cast had horrible chemistry.
-It was old.

The characters that we all know and love will be gone.
We do know that Atlantis will go on for it's 4th season. That is amazing.
And let's remember other shows- ones that were cancelled before their time.
Remember a little show called FireFly? Futurama?

So please stop with these " Kill the network/producers " threads
It's rude and out of character for the wonderful people that come to our little haven called GateWorld.

[The_Austin]

Personaly i think the cast chemistry is excellent.

I think the writing is back on track being as good as its ever been. With the writers bringing in a new complex enemy.

I don't see why the show being old is a good reason to cancell it, especially as long as its good

[jambi]

Personaly i think the cast chemistry is excellent.

I think the writing is back on track being as good as its ever been. With the writers bringing in a new complex enemy.

I don't see why the show being old is a good reason to cancell it, especially as long as its good

I love the cast chemistry, but think the show needs a new writing staff.

[SGAFan]

I'm afraid I am unwilling to cancel the Sci-Fi channel, as I still have the rest of season 10 of SG-1 to watch. Not to mention season 3 of Atlantis, season 3 of Battlestar Galactica, and (eventually) season 4 of Atlantis.

Those three shows are the only things I watch on that station, mind you. O_o

Same here (well, except BSG... never have liked it)

Doing something like this will only hurt the entire franchise, SG1 included. RC has indicated afuture for SG1 (be it movies, mini-series or whatever) Doing something like this will only hurt those chances and ultimately hurt the show you think you're standing up for.

[TheGreatLordGeorge]

The writers and production crew has done wonders in revitalizing the show. i think that since the cast shakeup, which hs only been about one year now has progressed and is developing a new chemistry...and i like it.

[jeb]

Im not speaking directly to you in that sence, I am speaking to the countless people starting threads like this one, "send mail" "send e-mails" "march to sci-fi's main building" "sign the petition" "send them this that and the other", that IS harrasment on the forums IMO

Well, yeah, it's what happens with internet forums when a huge annnoucement is made, an amazing episode or a tragic death happen. Topics pop up out of nowhere made by casuals that may not want to spent the whole day lurking at wether a topic was posted 2 days ago, and they are all entitled to their own opinions.

[-PITBULL-]

Okay now as I rant your mouse may drift to the Reputation button.
Feel free.

Now, SG-1 has had a long life. Longer than a lot of cats. So when I say what I have to say, think about a cat. Okay now to start off, we all know that SG-1 had been not renewed after 10 seasons. I think that it was SG-1's time to die.
-The writing was getting pathetic
-The new cast had horrible chemistry.
-It was old.

The characters that we all know and love will be gone.
We do know that Atlantis will go on for it's 4th season. That is amazing.
And let's remember other shows- ones that were cancelled before their time.
Remember a little show called FireFly? Futurama?

So please stop with these " Kill the network/producers " threads
It's rude and out of character for the wonderful people that come to our little haven called GateWorld.
Well that is your view on things , but i guess there is alot mroe people that think they showshould at least get to finish there Story ... Its more like a GOOD BOOK ... When rreading a good book you dont jsut stop half way throw it and say im well it was a good but , but i felt is was over with chapter one ... There is a bigger story to STARGATE SG-1 right now , and FANs of the show might not get a chance to finish it couse of some network that doesnt want to resign for a few more seasons ...

We might not get to see what happeness to the Ori , or even get to meet the real furlings now cous of this chocie of theres ...

As a fan for 10 years i dont feel that the show should have been kicked to the side like that , They could have told MGM hey we dont really want to pick up SG-1 for there 11th season , but we are going to so you could have time to finish off your Story Ark of the Ori ...

This way the Writters could have had a full season to really take the SHOW and build it up for a great ending , Maybe even get ready for a MINI Searies to really end the STARGATE SG-1 Show ... Making it the 11th season for getting alot of Questions finally Answered , and then taking out the Ori in a Final Mini Series to make the Fans STARGATE SG-1 Collection a great one ...

[Mr.Clark]

I'm really pushing the tissue box idea across multiple forums. Please add it to your websites and make this a world wide movement.
If I was in the States, I'd do it, but sending a tissue box from Britain could be expensive, even if it's empty :S

[Kalinda]

Yeah, agree with you.. I think the reason people are angry is because it was "cancelled" as oppose to simply "coming to a desired end"; cancelled shows often don't get the endings they deserve.

Well.. the way Angel's final season ended was appropriate, given where the writers took the season, even if it was sort of a cliffhanger.

I don't think the cast had bad chemistry; heck, I even like Mitchell and Vala. However, it was starting to feel like they'd reach the end of the ideas rope. While the Ori were a good idea on paper, the application of too much cliche wrecked them. And the whole "we have to find some awesome Ancient tech to save the day with" has already been done; it seems like that's the answer to every problem now.

At any rate; I dont think any amount of petitions or letters will change SciFi's mind; that stuff never works, except to maybe get a mini series or movie. Though if they make a movie, it better be something everyone can understand with a story connected to the series.

I think they should make a new series after Atlantis; they could keep this going for a while like Star Trek did, but every show has it's time (except maybe Doctor Who ;)). SG1 couldn't go on forever; we ought to be thankful it lasted so long to begin with and that, for the most part, it was quality television.

[Marcus117]

Your right, you could've been our Saviour.

[PG15]

I found their phone numbers:
SciFi Channel viewer comment line: (212) 413-5000
SciFi Channel programming line: (212) 413-5821
SciFi Channel comments line: (212) 413-5577

Nice! Although, the last one appears to be for USA Channel.

I foresee a lot of long-distance calls in my future. ;)

[Saneth]

If I was in the States, I'd do it, but sending a tissue box from Britain could be expensive, even if it's empty :S

Don't worry, I'll send enough for the both of us bud =).

[Cereal_Killer]

I'm going to have to go along with the "Finally" assessment of all that's going on. In my opinion, the show should have ended back in Season 7 (MAYBE Season 8). I do however, agree that for the most part, most of the episodes since have been pretty good ("200" having been spectacular). I do not think that any of the actors failed in any sort of way, I just think that it was time for the show to come to an end. Neither do I think that the writers failed in any way, 8-10 years writing the same show is pretty damn good. All in all, I will be sad to see SG-1 go (if it does end) but I think it's for the best. As others have said, lets not complain about the actors/writers, etc. or SCIFI, lets be happy that our favorite show had such a great run. Remember, there's still Atlantis (which I am really looking forward too) as well as the new series and the movies, so Stargate is by no means going away. Long live Stargate!

[o-0]

ill cancel sci fi when sg-1's done there

[-PITBULL-]

Yeah, agree with you.. I think the reason people are angry is because it was "cancelled" as oppose to simply "coming to a desired end"; cancelled shows often don't get the endings they deserve.

Well.. the way Angel's final season ended was appropriate, given where the writers took the season, even if it was sort of a cliffhanger.

I don't think the cast had bad chemistry; heck, I even like Mitchell and Vala. However, it was starting to feel like they'd reach the end of the ideas rope. While the Ori were a good idea on paper, the application of too much cliche wrecked them. And the whole "we have to find some awesome Ancient tech to save the day with" has already been done; it seems like that's the answer to every problem now.

At any rate; I dont think any amount of petitions or letters will change SciFi's mind; that stuff never works, except to maybe get a mini series or movie. Though if they make a movie, it better be something everyone can understand with a story connected to the series.

I think they should make a new series after Atlantis; they could keep this going for a while like Star Trek did, but every show has it's time (except maybe Doctor Who ;)). SG1 couldn't go on forever; we ought to be thankful it lasted so long to begin with and that, for the most part, it was quality television.


You know a MOVIE would be great , but the problem with a movie is that they would have to do it like Firefly , re tell the whole story from page one ... Witch unless you watched Firefly , the movie did make much sense ...

What would be better is if MGM gives the Writters of STARGATE a chance to go with 2 mroe seasons to finish STARGATE SG-1s Sotry Ark , From there MGM could give SG-1 a FINISH with a Mini Series that would finally get ride of the Ori for the time being ...

This way if MGM ever wanted to they could bring back SG-1 or even jsut start up a Mini Series based off of SG-1 once a year ... Makign 3 parter Minin Series ever so often to tell a new story about SG-1 and some new Alien race that is tring to invade earth and the Milk Way Galaxy ...

I dont want STARGATE SG-1 to end up like STAR TREK NG ... They had there run , and ever know and then they make a new movie ... Come on STARGATE SG-1 needs mroe of a finish for the show , it would also let the Characters have some kind of connection with there fans ...

[ancientaction]

don't cxl anything. as long as ANY stargate series is running, you need to watch it... LIVE, thats the only way to keep the rating up. and you know. if you work for the press, RATINGS ARE EVERYTHING. the press will sell there left nut for good ratings.


so don't cxl scifi, don't stop watching stargate just to hurt sci-fi, if you do, you'll hurt the rating, and then it won't be worth it to sci-fi, much less anyother network

[Space Monkey52]

MSOL just posted this:

"This just in from Michael's publicist:

Can you please post this on MSOL from Michael regarding the news of Stargate's cancellation:

"Unfortunately, all good things must come to an end. But I look at it as the closing of a chapter, not the whole story."

[IcyNeko]

Include my video :D

[sueKay]

cancelling a channel cos your in a bad mood is just baby-ish.

If I cancelled a channel everytime a show I liked ended, I'd be left with the news channels and the sports channels and nothing else.

[The_Fifth]

u must only see stargate sg1, and atlantis nothing else !!

[jeb]

Keep dreaming, Mr Shanks. You gotta have to do a few more seasons prior hitting the big screen.

[Beal'c]

ill cancel sci fi when sg-1's done there

Same with me. It's the only show I watch on that channel. Unfortunatly it's on when I'm at work so I can't watch it live. I can only tape it. :(

[Apophis87]

I will watch the rest of SG1 and SGA every chance I get. We have to make SG1 appealing to other networks, and the only way to do that is to keep the ratings up.

However, if/when another network picks up SG1, I will boycott everything on SciFi except Atlantis. I really hope that if MGM finds a new network for SG1, that they will bring SGA to it as well, thus leaving SciFi with no gates at all. Then, I will stop watching SciFi completely.

[lunarleviathan]

The fans can do nothing. It's dead, and it sucks, but Stargate will be reborn in some way shape or form.

[michey]

The fans can do nothing. It's dead, and it sucks, but Stargate will be reborn in some way shape or form.

dont forget it was the fans that brought farscape back for a mini series

[PG15]

I'll decide what I like to watch thank you very much, and I like Season 9 and Season 10.

[nunuu]

If I was in the States, I'd do it, but sending a tissue box from Britain could be expensive, even if it's empty :S
Well, there are other things that could be done! Someone's done some postcards for people to print out. ^_^

There are a lot of creative ways to express your fandom to the studios to show your support.

I'm seriously thinking joining in on the tissue box thing cuz it's sort of cute. ^^; (I live in Canada so the postage to send the thing isn't that horrid.)

[OberonSky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjE3ESa56Ig&mode=related&search=

This is very touching regardless of your opinion of the "song" that accompanies the video .. brings tears to my eyes watching this.

Also check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHmrIBI8o8g&mode=related&search=

Seasons 9/10/Ori were not all that bad if they were given the chance to unfold.

Sigh... how can such a great show be ended in this way .. Sure all good things come to an end and all that .. but a Season 11 to properly finish the Ori story, give closure to SG-1, and set up perhaps a spin off "Stargate Command" or something similar, make the Stargate known to all people on Earth and create a "Stargate Command" and begin a new show with lower cost .. keep some of the cast .. trim the budget a little .. start fresh ... BAH .. TV execs/bean-counters/pencil-pushers/Nielsen Ratings all can go to hell .....



PS. For the fans of Daniel and Vala: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/every_you/

[PG15]

Include my video :D

Mine too!! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eLooaLVAIk

[Indiana]

You guys ever heard of letting something go gracefully?

[the fifth man]

I'll decide what I like to watch thank you very much, and I like Season 9 and Season 10.

Same here. Thanks anyway, though. This decision was all about the money involved, not the lack of quality stories.

[jeb]

It makes perfect sense now !

[The Doctor]

Wow? What's it like up there, high above the rest of us common folk?

[IcyNeko]

Of course! Are we talking Grace? or Grace under pressure?

One involves a nebula-cloud-monster, the other involves a sinking Jumper with a semi-nude samantha carter.

... Wait...

why'd I ask?

[The_Fifth]

innecesary thread

[Bragi]

This is exactly what Robert Cooper just said NOT to do. :rolleyes:

Yeah.

The thing to do is watch SG-1, watch Atlantis, watch the re-runs. Show Sci-Fi, before it's too late, that they should reconsider. Or show other networks that the show can still turn a profit.

Write letters to Sci-Fi and their sponsors. Nice letters, well-written letters. No name-calling, no threats, no childish behavior or language. Don't point out that they're incompitent, incompitent people don't like to be reminded that they're imcompitent, for some reason, it pisses them off. Tell them you enjoy their network and you are very upset about the cancellation of SG-1, and pledge support to the advertiser's products. Basically, lie your ass off.

Cooper and everyone else have been saying since the beginning of the season that the thing to do to save SG-1 has been to watch it live. For whatever reason, people haven't, and now all of us, season 9/10 lovers and haters are flooding the boards pissed off. To anyone here who boycotted this season and are upset about the cancellation: you made your bed, and now we're all having to lie in it. And you don't want that. Because I snore. Very loudly. I also spoon anything near me. You want that? A naked, snoring, spooning Gater?

[Starxgate]

Show Sci-Fi, before it's too late

We got 6 months of work to do that plenty of time. I say no one watch the new BSG just download it

[avalonmist1]

I just emailed the SciFi Channel and told them I will no longer support or watch any other series on the SciFi Channel except Stargate SG1 & Stargate Atlantis.

I told them I watched and enjoyed "Eureka" but as of now I'm no longer going to watch the series.

And I told them that I did looked forward to watching Battlestar Galactica in October and loved the series but I now I will not support or watch the series on their channel. I said I can download BSG from Itunes and support the studio that way or I can patiently wait till BSG airs on Universal HD channel. Boy let me tell you BSG is phenomenal in high definition. The widescreen and the details and colors in high definition. It will be worth waiting in HD.

Lastly I told them they made a BIG BIG mistake and ended there nicely.

I'm sad and sniffling.

Linda :(

[shelma32]

Ive created a yahoo group dedicated solely to keeping the show on our screens:
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/save-sg1/

[Chutzpah]

You've posted this before, and I still disagree with you.

Changing the writers would be a step backwards. The ones we have now (are in my opinion) still churning out good, entertaining stories. Who knows what pathetic drivel knew ones would write up, because it's what they think the fans want.

[the fifth man]

You've posted this before, and I still disagree with you.

Changing the writers would be a step backwards. The ones we have now (are in my opinion) still churning out good, entertaining stories. Who knows what pathetic drivel knew ones would write up, because it's what they think the fans want.

I couldn't agree with you more.:)

Come on though, let's all try and stay civil people. There's no need to go overboard about this thread.

[Bragi]

We got 6 months of work to do that plenty of time. I say no one watch the new BSG just download it

Well, I'm having flashbacks to four years ago, when it was anounced Farscape was being given the axe. We Scapers did everything we could to get Sci-Fi to change their minds. It took more than a year before we demonstrated there was still a market for Farscape.

[PG15]

You guys ever heard of letting something go gracefully?

Now when it might not go at all.

[OberonSky]

One question to the veterans here, I have been trying to find a short clip of the scene were vala was burned alive then the Prior brought her back .. it was one hell of a scene .. does anyone have a link to that somewhere?

Thanks!

[mahram]

your right, it means low ratings = low financial reasoning to keep stargate sg1 active. This is what I meant by the lack of common sense from some gateheads. There are people here who are truely fanatics of stargate. Who would watch whatever and read whatever that is barely stargate related. And lack of quality, if the quality was great, dont you think the ratings would have been spectacular. Arent you angry. This is about real people's jobs. Do you know how many canadians will be laid off because of the cancellation of stargate sg1.


Same here. Thanks anyway, though. This decision was all about the money involved, not the lack of quality stories.

[mahram]

like I said the ratings and general public dont support your attitude. if they did, sg1 would still be on the air. Thankyou very much.


I'll decide what I like to watch thank you very much, and I like Season 9 and Season 10.

[the fifth man]

your right, it means low ratings = low financial reasoning to keep stargate sg1 active. This is what I meant by the lack of common sense from some gateheads. There are people here who are truely fanatics of stargate. Who would watch whatever and read whatever that is barely stargate related. And lack of quality, if the quality was great, dont you think the ratings would have been spectacular. Arent you angry. This is about real people's jobs. Do you know how many canadians will be laid off because of the cancellation of stargate sg1.

Actually, that's not what I meant. Not low financial reasoning to keep SG-1 on. Sci-Fi itself has admitted this wasn't about ratings. If it was, SGA would be gone too. It was about SG-1 being on for 10 seasons, and their refusal to let TPTB change the name (thus lowering costs) because they wanted to reach 200 eps for bragging rights. After 10 years on the air, people were making serious money. Too much in Sci-Fi's eyes.

[Maxum]

I think we need to continue to watch SG-1 religiously until the end of the series. Like Mr. Cooper explained, if the ratings go up, he can at least have ammunition to shop the show to another network.

So, if people want to know how to perhaps increase the possiblity of SG-1 continuing on another network, keeping the ratings up would be a good way to start.

The fact that the 200th episode garnered a 1.9 is a very good start. However, I do agree with some posters that stated that Sci Fi never had any intention of proceeding with SG-1 beyond the 10th season. Also, Atlantis is barely ahead of SG-1 in the ratings. It's hardly a boon.

It's funny. I've been watching SG-1 for ten years, and of course, it's always in the back of your mind that the show won't get picked up, but I'll admit, I was stunned about the cancellation. Mostly because I think SG-1 is very good right now. The cavalier attitudes of season 8 has disappeared, and they actually are nervous and afraid about the Ori. The dialogue is more dramatic, and I think the chemistry with the cast is very good. I'll always miss Rick, but SG-1 was just getting it's footing with the new additions.

All I can say is keep watching. Let's try to boost the ratings.

[mahram]

Like I wrote to the other posters. if I were wrong, how do you explain the bad ratings. If the writers and producers were giveing what fans and the general public wanted, quality scifi and continuity the ratings would have been spectacular. The ratings dont agree with you chutzpah. And you want to know why Im angry. The reason is that alot of good canadians are being laid off. And it was barely covered up secreat that sg1 was going tobe cancelled. Look at the ratings. but here on the board, we are stuck in our own world. And going rah rah, we love this stuff. Even those its substandard. You have fans leaving b/c stargate sg1 is off into another direction. and writers failing to listen to fans.


You've posted this before, and I still disagree with you.

Changing the writers would be a step backwards. The ones we have now (are in my opinion) still churning out good, entertaining stories. Who knows what pathetic drivel knew ones would write up, because it's what they think the fans want.

[shelma32]

I have created a yahoo group dedicated solely to keeping the show on air!!!

PLease all come and join:
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/save-sg1/

[Maxum]

Like I wrote to the other posters. if I were wrong, how do you explain the bad ratings. If the writers and producers were giveing what fans and the general public wanted, quality scifi and continuity the ratings would have been spectacular. The ratings dont agree with you chutzpah. And you want to know why Im angry. The reason is that alot of good canadians are being laid off. And it was barely covered up secreat that sg1 was going tobe cancelled. Look at the ratings. but here on the board, we are stuck in our own world. And going rah rah, we love this stuff. Even those its substandard. You have fans leaving b/c stargate sg1 is off into another direction. and writers failing to listen to fans.

Just because you don't like SG-1 doesn't mean the rest of the fans concur. Alot of fans might have left because RDA is no longer a part of it. It could because of the time change. Who knows. Frankly, I think the writing is better this year than it was in Season 8. SG-1 was joking about everything constantly. Everything was simple, nothing was difficult. There was no drama, just lots of quick jokes. I didn't believe that anyone they were fighting or up against was dangerous. I watched because I love the show, but it was like they were all phoning it in.

Things changed in Season 9, and most especially in Season 10. Frankly, I don't think Sci-Fi ever had any intention of giving SG-1 an 11th season.

[the fifth man]

Things changed in Season 9, and most especially in Season 10. Frankly, I don't think Sci-Fi ever had any intention of giving SG-1 an 11th season.

I don't doubt that at all. Sci-Fi had this planned IMO. I hope they end up seeing just how wrong they were.

[wanderingbynight]

Yeah i think if SG-1 goes to some other network , so should SG-A .... It wouldnt be right to have these shows on 2 diffrent networks ...
Yup. The last thing we need is the two shows competing against eachother and dividing fans.

[the fifth man]

Yup. The last thing we need is the two shows competing against eachother and dividing fans.

Give Sci-Fi time. They'll eventually boot SGA too. Then, it could join SG-1 on whatever intelligent network decides to pick them up.

[shelma32]

Yup. The last thing we need is the two shows competing against eachother and dividing fans.

They both should be on the same network, but will sci-fi be willing to sell the rights to *Atlantis*?

[Elles]

At the risk of sounding like someone who does not fully understand the inner workings of TV management... (say me...) If TPTB find another network for SG-1, couldn't they drag Atlantis along with them?

[PG15]

your right, it means low ratings = low financial reasoning to keep stargate sg1 active. This is what I meant by the lack of common sense from some gateheads. There are people here who are truely fanatics of stargate. Who would watch whatever and read whatever that is barely stargate related. And lack of quality, if the quality was great, dont you think the ratings would have been spectacular. Arent you angry. This is about real people's jobs. Do you know how many canadians will be laid off because of the cancellation of stargate sg1.

Wait a minute, you're suggesting that we fire all the producers and writers and bring in people who may or may not ruin the franchise (even further, in some people's eyes), and you're guilting us for having people fired?!

Smell that? It's the smell of a Vulcan raising his eyebrow.

EDIT: Wow! Almost 10000 signitures!!

[wanderingbynight]

Less than 1,000 short of 10,000 anyway :D

[Elles]

I've sent the following e-mail to all my friends in hopes they'll help. Thanks to all those here who've suggested ways I've mentioned in it to help. I realize I might get flamed by someone who thinks this idea's cheesy, lame, or I'm being contradictory of myself (which I am...) but I'm posting it anyway. I'm always open to constructive citicism of something I may want to take out or something I may want to add in...
Dear Friends/Fans/Caring People,

As you may know, Stargate: SG-1 has recently been cancelled by the Sci-Fi channel before it’s time. This was due to low ratings, but is also uncalled for. Ratings have bounced back recently with the airing of the episode “200” with a 1.9 house hold average, a 39% increase from last week. The show should be given a chance to finish and should be renewed. There is something you can do to help in the noble cause of saving a great TV show. I am sending this to all of my friends, even those not of the SG-1 fandom cult.

E-mail Sci-Fi-
The e-mail address for programming comments and suggestions is (admins're goin' to remove anyway...) Now, chances are, if the subject title and content contain vulgar stuffs or extremely insulting things, filters will keep your message from getting anywhere so keep it polite and nice.

Send Letters to Sci-Fi-
Show your support; let yourself be known as a fan. Send a letter to those who run Sci-Fi. You can sound angry, but it’d be best not to use vulgar language or insults.

Bonnie Hammer, President
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

Mark Stern, Executive VP Original Programming
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

David Howe, Executive VP and General Manager
NBC Universal | Sci Fi Channel,
30 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, NY, 10112

If you want to send letters of support to those who run the show (not responsible for the cancellation) send them here.

Stargate SG-1 Productions
Bridge Studios
2400 Boundary Rd, Burnaby, BC
Canada, V5M 3Z3

Sign the Online Petition-

You can find a petition to save SG-1 at this address, here. When last I checked, it already had 9,055 signatures, not sure how many of them will be considered valid. By the time you receive this it’s likely to have more. You DO NOT need to make a donation to sign the petition so just ignore the message you get afterwards, look above, it says “petition signed.”

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Stargate/index.html
Make a Phone Call-
You’ll be charged for long distance but the phone numbers you’ll need to reach NBC Universal if you choose to make a phone call are (212) 757-5294 and (212) 956-2395. It was one of the strategies used in the Save Daniel Jackson campaign back in season six.

That’s all for now. If you choose to participate in the saving of SG-1, especially if you’re not a fan, thank you so much. If not, than thank you anyway for taking the time to read this e-mail.
One more thing, if you participate you, I do not ask that much of you, but you may also pass on the ways you can help to other fans/family/friends… but, we all know how I feel about chain letters, this is not what I want this to become. I’m only adding this part in for my friends who have told me that they will “pass it on” upon receiving this e-mail.
When you lazily move over to the forward button, delete all the e-mail addresses from the previous message. Other people, including yours truly, will appreciate not having their e-mail fall into the wrong hands. This is NOT a chain letter, it is an e-mail pleading for help from the public to save a great TV show that has united so many of us across the world. If I wanted good turn out, I could easily say “your crush will kiss you if you do all these things.” Your crush will NOT kiss you if you do all these things, but you ought to feel good about yourself for being friendly to me and for taking a part in helping something great. So thank you, again.

[psk]

I have an idea for a project that will hopefully help the SG-1 community with regards to future seasons.. I'd like to speak more about it in detail, but before I do, I need to deal with some business formalities to help lend legitimacy to the project.

I've already invested a small, but sizable chunk of my own money and time into this and I'm currently in need of two volunteers..

I need a lawyer willing to put in a few hours of his / her time towards the cause (as it is for SG-1)

I need a licensed CPA willing to put in a few hours as well.

I will explain it in detail to the two volunteers and ultimately to the the SG-1 fanbase during the initial "go-live" blog.

It would be great if the two individuals were in the NYC area.

I would also like to apologize for the secrecy initially, but I'm only gonna have one big publicity shot at this and I'd like to have all my ducks in a row.

Thanks.

[Elles]

Hm... My girl scout troop leader is a Sci-Fi fan and a lawyer. I'll ask her if you don't find anyone else by the time I do...

[Karyyk]

The fact that ECW is getting better ratings than SG-1 is just sad. Looks like the way to appeal to the masses is to dumb-down your material. Everything is starting to look like Spike now (RIP TechTV...now G4 aka Spike2)...

[psk]

That would be great! Thanks :)

[Elles]

You're welcome, she's not as big on SG-1 as she is on Star Trek, but if I'm convincing enough she just might. :) And when I'm trying I can be very convincing...

[Dark Falcon]

Yep, I signed the petition. But before I donated,
I wasn't sure how much to donate so I exited and
decided to come back later, but I can't
go back! Grrr.

[PG15]

Alright guys, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DONATE.

[Elles]

You don't need to make the donation, above it it says "petition signed." They're being sneeky...

[miss_kaylee]

I loved the letter Elles. I signed the petition. My next step is to send email out to everyone I know to pass the word along and to sign the petition. Plus I am putting the word out on myspace bulletins and my front page.

[shelma32]

Ive got my yahoo group ive created dedicated to keeping the show on air.
Once I have lotsof members, I plan on sending the group address to multiple channel headquarters etc to show them how much it is loved.

The link to the group is in my siggie:)

[Elles]

I loved the letter Elles. I signed the petition. My next step is to send email out to everyone I know to pass the word along and to sign the petition. Plus I am putting the word out on myspace bulletins and my front page.
Thankees, and that reminds me, I need to go put that on my blog... *skidaddles off*

[Flibble]

I honestly can't believe that this is the end for Stargate. I have a '6th sense' for these things and it just doesn't feel like Stargate will be over after Season 10.

People power is the greatest power in the world, so lets keep Stargate going in some way! :)

[Caballo]

Forget Sci-Fi. I only watched it because of SG-1 anyway. Showtime should take it back but then alot of people couldnt watch anymore. Try something like CBS or ABC. Something must be done but atleast we know now that it is not MGM's fault the show is leaving Sci-Fi

[shiznaw]

Let's start a petition drive to have SCI-Fi retract the last two seasons, ask for a full blown apology from the SG-1's producers for the debacle, fire the Farscapers, and hire new writers with some common sense.

[shelma32]

Let's start a petition drive to have SCI-Fi retract the last two seasons, ask for a full blown apology from the SG-1's producers for the debacle, fire the Farscapers, and hire new writers with some common sense.

There is nothing wrong with ben browder or claudia black!!
ok... they're not Jack... but they are still both great characters!!!

[wolverine_nl]

i saw some1 in here asking for an emailadress to use to send mail to scifi. If you go to scifi.com go to feedback and there are all the emailadresses you need to tell your story, not going to post it here for several reason the admins would agree isn't the way ;)

Oh and i want both shows on another channel or on direct dvd or both,... still saddens me that scifi is proud of SG-1's achievement and ends it without thinking about US!! The FANS!!!!! Without us there would be no MS in SG-1 anymore, there would be maybe no show anymore, no Atlantis, so i hope they find another solution. S10 will be aired untill the end on scifi. At least we have that, so we can 1. do some promotion ourselves on the world wide web and make that rating go through the roof to show scifi what kind of a proud fansbase the show has, or we could boycot it altogether and maybe spoil it for ourselves in the process .. or not.... !!!!! I AM SAG/ANGRY/CONFUSED!:S :danielanime08:

[Caballo]

I actually enjoy the addition of the new characters. I havent watched Farscape all the much though. I think they both are great and Mitchell even has a little of Jack in him. Vala adds a new twist to the show. She really brings some great stuff to Stargate. In my opinion these last two season have really added to SG-1's reputation as one of the best sci-fi shows ever to be shown in America...and the World.

[wolverine_nl]

Let's start a petition drive to have SCI-Fi retract the last two seasons, ask for a full blown apology from the SG-1's producers for the debacle, fire the Farscapers, and hire new writers with some common sense.
Some of us like the new characters as well as the old ones, so please dont generalise your statement :daniel09: and some do like S9 and S10 for the new stories. It is still the best Scifi show around as well as Atlantis!

[shelma32]

I actually enjoy the addition of the new characters. I havent watched Farscape all the much though. I think they both are great and Mitchell even has a little of Jack in him. Vala adds a new twist to the show. She really brings some great stuff to Stargate. In my opinion these last two season have really added to SG-1's reputation as one of the best sci-fi shows ever to be shown in America...and the World.

They both bring great new aspects to the show and open up tons of new stories that can be told

[wolverine_nl]

They both bring great new aspects to the show and open up tons of new stories that can be told
true!

[X-Seti]

I don't know if this is going to come out right;

I'm one of those who have brought all the DVD's (SG-1/SGA), It's a very good collection and I was hoping the show would go on, past season 11...

Um.. Why!

I wasn't thinking of just myself here, these DVD's can be passed on to my son in time, as old shows here are not often shown (re-run) on TV that much, unless you have SKY TV/Cable.

I am somewhat in shock to see a show axed due to ratings, but being from the UK the rating system doesn't effect us, but something should.

We do have a scifi channel here also, but I know it's not the same company as the USA counterpart, but we can bombard them with emails as well.

Doesn't the rest of us count in the world, or is it only the USA viewers that lead the way to what we are allowed to watch. ?

Just because viewing has dropped in the US, this doesn't mean others around the would want the show to end, Scifi has a nack for taking over shows and killing them, think about Farscape, Enterprise?.

I can go on listing shows but i'm getting tired.

Ugghhh!

[fantastyfreak]

I believe Stargate should not be on a premium channel because some fans do not have much money b/c UH-Hum it is hard to get jobs where they live. It should be on a basic cable channel or online (I have DSL internet luckily) so fans who do not have much money can still watch it. If it were on Showtime, I could not watch it anymore. I believe it should be put up on a program which Toonami and Adult Swim have where you can watch the show at anytime online for FREE! That in my opinion would be a better alternative than Showtime b/c not every fan has Digital Cable.

[Elles]

Or Fox... unless Fox cancels it in which case I'll be mad because...
A. They cancelled it.
B. When I boycot them I won't be able to watch House, The Simpsons, Bones, 24, and so on...

[miss_kaylee]

I just talked to my friend and she signed the petition and she don't even watch the show. :)

[Shep]

Like I wrote to the other posters. if I were wrong, how do you explain the bad ratings. If the writers and producers were giveing what fans and the general public wanted, quality scifi and continuity the ratings would have been spectacular. The ratings dont agree with you chutzpah. And you want to know why Im angry. The reason is that alot of good canadians are being laid off. And it was barely covered up secreat that sg1 was going tobe cancelled. Look at the ratings. but here on the board, we are stuck in our own world. And going rah rah, we love this stuff. Even those its substandard. You have fans leaving b/c stargate sg1 is off into another direction. and writers failing to listen to fans.

Nielsen ratings work like this: there are somewhere between 5000 and 6500 Nielsen households. and within those households, Nielsen is getting a 65% non-response rate. those are the only houses that ratings come from. that's it. one or two of those folks go to dinner instead of watching a show and that show's ratings tank.

make sure you know what you're talking about before you start yellin' at folks.


The reason is that alot of good canadians are being laid off.

SG-1 shoots at Bridge Studios. so does SGA, which didn't get cancelled. it has been said repeatedly that much of the crew works on both productions. so again, maybe make sure you know what you're talking about before you start yellin'.

there's also whatever Rob Cooper referred to in his interview, about the franchise being not over and something coming that they can't announce yet. you don't think they'd then re-hire the same people that they've worked with for 10 years?

[X-Seti]

Quick Q; Would scifi take notice of the rating for the re-runs?.

If the ratings went up, would they reconsider maybe.

[ahdvd]

Very few and far inbetween and it was never Angel and Buffy crossing over anymore. Well, Buffy did "crossover" once during season 5 of Angel, but that wasn't even Sarah Michelle Gellar.

The only reason that characters could cross over after the shows were on different networks is because those characters had already appeared in episodes of both series before they changed networks - Willow could appear in season 4 of angel because she appeared on screen at the end of season 2, Spike could appear in season 5 because he had appeared in a single episode of season 1 - so they were already established.

With things as they are currently on the two stargate series, if SG-1 went to another network, any crossovers would by law allow any characters to appear who have appeared on either show - this means that currently Teal'c could NOT appear on Atlantis (unless he does so before the end of the current season, and likewise for Ronan, Tayla, or Beckett, they couldnt appear on SG-1 - they do not have 'appearances' in their sister show that they can essentially continue on from.

[Shep]

The fans can do nothing. It's dead, and it sucks, but Stargate will be reborn in some way shape or form.


you couldn't be more wrong. you are the end consumer. the ratings exist to set ad rates for the companies that are trying to reach you to buy their products. if the ratings drop, then those companies believe that their products are not reaching you, the consumer. so tell them otherwise.

circumvent the ratings system and start writing letters to those companies that advertise on Stargate. tell them you saw their ad on your show. if you buy their product, send them proof...a receipt, a upc code.

speak positively with your money.

[Elles]

When Star Trek (the origional series) was cancelled, the fans flooded the network with angry letters. They renewed the series for one more season. There is something we can do.

[Shep]

Quick Q; Would scifi take notice of the rating for the re-runs?.

If the ratings went up, would they reconsider maybe.

you mean on other channels? not in the way that you're asking.

a couple of things. the ratings on any given channel for Stargate in syndication set the ad prices for that channel specifically. the money circle is closed there, in that the ad revenue is going to the network that paid to run the Stargate in syndication. what *is* bringing Skiffy and/or MGM money is the syndication deal itself.

that said, the ratings in syndication, and stuff like dvd sales, all become hard, quantifiable indicators of the franchise's overall viability. it speaks a lot that Stargate is in syndication on more than one channel.

and if you put that in context with what Cooper said in his interview about something in the works, the franchise not being dead, and that an announcement was coming but not yet, then TPTB all recognize that the franchise is still financially viable. the cancellation of the series could simply be a mandatory step that has to be taken in order for the show to continue on in its new form.

so in a roundabout way, yes, ratings in syndication matter, but to the overall viability of the franchise, not to the network that is producing the show in first run.


When Star Trek (the origional series) was cancelled, the fans flooded the network with angry letters. They renewed the series for one more season. There is something we can do.

don't write angry letters. write forceful positive letters.

[Elles]

By angry I don't mean vulgar insults, I mean stressing you're unhappy 'bout it, while being polite.

[Shep]

By angry I don't mean vulgar insults, I mean stressing you're unhappy 'bout it, while being polite.

"polite" is totally the key. they won't listen, and it will reflect badly on your fandom, if the letters are angry rants.

[suzziq1]

Don't believe this - my fave progs buffy - gone, angel - gone. Now sg1 its too much, I am soooo annoyed



suzzzi

[Elles]

But if there are enough of them, they'll be annoyed enough... But, that's a lot of letters...

[PG15]

Don't forget to call them! Do anything to get your voices heard!

[ahdvd]

But if there are enough of them, they'll be annoyed enough... But, that's a lot of letters...

Letters can by stored without taking up a lot of space, the kleenex 'send more' box idea will have a much greater chance of success - imagine if you recieved a kleenex box for EVERY piece of junk mail that you recieved? You think there would be ANY room left in your house? I'de say that's pretty damned hard to ignore.

[Elles]

Letters can by stored without taking up a lot of space, the kleenex 'send more' box idea will have a much greater chance of success - imagine if you recieved a kleenex box for EVERY piece of junk mail that you recieved? You think there would be ANY room left in your house? I'de say that's pretty damned hard to ignore.
Hm... true...

[AlexanderII]

We must do as much as we can to keep the show either in Sci-Fi or any network that picks it up. But at least let this GREAT show end with the dignity it deserves!!!

[Maxum]

you couldn't be more wrong. you are the end consumer. the ratings exist to set ad rates for the companies that are trying to reach you to buy their products. if the ratings drop, then those companies believe that their products are not reaching you, the consumer. so tell them otherwise.

circumvent the ratings system and start writing letters to those companies that advertise on Stargate. tell them you saw their ad on your show. if you buy their product, send them proof...a receipt, a upc code.

speak positively with your money.

That's actually an excellent idea. If nothing else, it would make advertisers follow SG-1 to another network. If the fanbase - and the money - are going there.

Fans should watch the next episodes of SG-1. Make a note of the commercials that aired (one or two), and then when you're on your computer commenting about the SG-1 episode. Pop into the website of the one or two ads you noted: Honda, Verizon, etc. Just tell them that "I saw your commercial while watching my favorite show, and thank you for supporting it."

Advertisers want to know that you REMEMBER their commericals and ads, rather than fast-forwarding through them. If nothing else, if advertisers get hit with tons of e-mails from SG-1 fans, they will at least be aware of the size of SG-1s true audience, and we won't have to depend on Nielsen ratings to support it.

There are how many hits on the petition right now? Imagine that many hits on advertisers websites.

Just a thought.:o

[suzziq1]

sorry as much as I want to save SG1 - is there a site I can go to to sign a petition that doesn't cost me money???

The site I went to asked for money - is that fair?

Can someone explain please?

[Fatewarns]

send written letters or postcards

[Elles]

sorry as much as I want to save SG1 - is there a site I can go to to sign a petition that doesn't cost me money???
You don't have to donate.

[Space Monkey52]

sorry as much as I want to save SG1 - is there a site I can go to to sign a petition that doesn't cost me money???

The site I went to asked for money - is that fair?

Can someone explain please?

If you look at the top of the page, it says your sig was added. The dontation request is just something extra that i think you can safely ignore.

[suzziq1]

Yes I went back and checked my sig was added to petition - sorry - please forgive.

Didn't mean to sound so ..erm...mean...apologies

But SAVE SG!

[Jumper One]

Yes I went back and checked my sig was added to petition - sorry - please forgive.
Not a problem. :)

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

Name and Summarise your favourite Stargate Episode.

Full Circle
I absolutely adored this ep, it seemed magical how good it actually was. It was epic how they brought Daniel back and how he challenged the supreme and most feared System Lord.....again. Even though every Abydonian got shafted in the end, I was happy to see that they were allowed to ascend - after all they were the first race to be encountered by SG-1 when the SGC was first established.

And I loved Daniel's face when he learnt of Skaara's acsension, it was like 'Ow Bagger-Oma's here.' Brilliance.:)

[Elles]

Yes I went back and checked my sig was added to petition - sorry - please forgive.

Didn't mean to sound so ..erm...mean...apologies

But SAVE SG!
Indeed. :)

[Jordan]

I cant beleive they would do this to us!! I dont even like atlantis enough to watch that in replacment of stargate... i guess now ill have to get a life:mckay:

[Elles]

I cant beleive they would do this to us!! I dont even like atlantis enough to watch that in replacment of stargate... i guess now ill have to get a life:mckay:
No, create a dillusional world. Sure you'll wake up in a few weeks to find out from Dr. Fletcher that it was all a dream... But you'll have years of memories in the lost city of Atlantis.

[OberonSky]

You no doubt know that you owe SG-1 and the Stargate franchise your current success as a cable channel. The popularity of SG-1 and its fans have helped bring revenues to you which paved the way for BSG and SGA as well as Eureka etc.

Out of decency and appreciation to the fans and the SG-1 team you should allow SG-1 to continue to season 11. That way the Ori story can be wrapped up properly and the season 10 cliffhanger can be resolved.

Needless to say if done right, you would be gaining a lot from this. I see from the interview pre-episode 200 that RDA is willing to come back .. perhaps allowing a season 11 would be a good chance for him to rejoin the series and boost ratings as well. Use the Furlings (REAL ones) in season 11 too.

Think about it: Asgards(Thor) + Furlings + RDA + Ori + Ba'al + proper advertising = a great season 11 for everyone, fans and ratings/revenue as well.

Not to mention Season 11 can set up the grounds for a spin-off series .. something like "Stargate Command" where the gate is made public to the people of earth .. a new international stargate command established .. teams like sg1 etc go into gate explore and give us more adventure .. a new series like that can succeed especially that it will not cost as much as a season 12 SG-1 ...

Sci-Fi, like I said you OWE it to SG-1 and the fans to give this great show a proper ending.

If you still think that the "Nielsen Ratings" are 100% accurate then look at the petition which in 24 hours got 10,000 signatures. It will show you how large the SG-1 fanbase is.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Stargate/signatures.html

[Jordan]

SG-1 qwas my dellusional world:P

[Elles]

And now Atlantis is too.

[Jordan]

meh im not into atlantis...havnt even finished the first season

[Elles]

meh im not into atlantis...havnt even finished the first season
*passes DVDs*

[PG15]

320 sigs till 10000!! :D

[Shep]

That's actually an excellent idea. If nothing else, it would make advertisers follow SG-1 to another network. If the fanbase - and the money - are going there.

thanks. it worked for us.

for example, we sent so much love and proof of business to KFC that they were an official sponsor of the Farscape mini-series.


Fans should watch the next episodes of SG-1. Make a note of the commercials that aired (one or two), and then when you're on your computer commenting about the SG-1 episode. Pop into the website of the one or two ads you noted: Honda, Verizon, etc. Just tell them that "I saw your commercial while watching my favorite show, and thank you for supporting it."

make note of ALL OF THEM. have somebody keep a list and post it here. post the email and snail mail addresses at the top of the post.


Advertisers want to know that you REMEMBER their commericals and ads, rather than fast-forwarding through them.

advertisers want to know that you consume their product more.


If nothing else, if advertisers get hit with tons of e-mails from SG-1 fans, they will at least be aware of the size of SG-1s true audience, and we won't have to depend on Nielsen ratings to support it.

yes. this exactly. just be polite. don't under any circumstances spam them.

money speaks louder than online petitions. vote with your wallets. it's what they're after in the first place.

[AnUbIs2004]

Please... whatver you do... DO NOT stop watching SG-1 and SGA on SciFi! It'll hurt the chances of continuing on on another network. Boycott any other show and prodcuts you want on SciFi, but not the Gates!

This could also be a chance to really stick it to the SciFi channel. Think about how idiotic they would look if SG1 went up in the ratings, even higher than BSG. If that happened I am sure some heads would roll at SciFi.

Plus, when MGM goes to approach other networks, they will need to use the ratings as part of their presentation. Now if the ratings stay the same or even go up, this is a good arguement for MGM to make. They can essentially just blame SciFi's lack of interest in the show.

It is also possible that MGM may be willing to ask for a lower cost just for airing rights and recoup that in syndication, DVD sales, etc..Remember, just in the past few years has MGM realised they have a Trek/Bond like franchise ). A canceled show will NOT help promotion of things like video games for example.

Also consider, this show is shown in 120 counties, with a viewing of 22 million people worldwide. Worldwide, that is one hell of a loss to MGM, who have stated that Stargate helps immensely to promote MGM greatly. Much like Paramount has the Trek universe, MGM now has their own unique franchise with which to claim, and I am sure they do not want it to end this way.

[G8-watcher]

Make a note of the commercials that aired (one or two), and then when you're on your computer commenting about the SG-1 episode. Pop into the website of the one or two ads you noted: Honda, Verizon, etc. Just tell them that "I saw your commercial while watching my favorite show,
.:o

I completely agree! We need to flood everyone involved with this show in any form and then we can hopefully get a season 11 where it's at... then, they can change network, spin-off, jump to the future, do whatever but give "the Longest Consecutive Running Sci-Fi TV Show."(thx Guinness) a chance to establish itself with another season. If anyone has ADVERTISERS CONTACT INFO.. please send it to http://www.savestargate.com and http://www.savestargatesg-1.com/ :comeon:

[Freekzilla]

WOW! 9794 signatures on the petition. Even if you take out all the double posters, that's still a lot of people.

[Astrophysist]

To All loyal stargate fans:
I currently watch other scifi shows and have started a petition to boycott the network. If you agree with this please sign the petition at http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/SCIFI
Thank you

[paul2282]

SENT LETTERS TO SCIFI

The Following link as contact information to send letters to MGM, Scifi and the Production Studio.

http://www.savedanieljackson.com/archives/000744.shtml

We need to save our show...

[wanderingbynight]

Ive created a yahoo group dedicated solely to keeping the show on our screens:
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/save-sg1/
Maybe you should post a message or something on your site even if it's just to say hello. I know you just made it, but it looks kinda lonely if that makes any sense at all.:P (I joined btw)

[Colonel Sharp]

SAVE SG-1! Sign the petition! Tell all your stargate watching friends!

[Peoples_General]

Become writers for the show.

[Elles]

Hee... Letters are in the mail box with the flag up waiting to be taken to New York tomorrow. I also threatened to send letters every week should the show not be renewed. :D :D :D
Only down side is we're out of stamps so I had to use the "Happy Chinese New Year" ones. Bonnie got the rooster, Mark got the dragon, David got the dog.

[The Ori]

I hate Sci-Fi they re gay ********s, they Shuld get cancelled why are they showing wrestling when its a sci-fi network.

If they want to show wrestling instead of a real sci-fi show then go ahead I hope SG-1, Atlantis, BSG and Eureka get turned over to another network!!

[schweinsty]

9,992 posts! Now if only every one of those people would send just one letter to Bonnie Hammer.....

[ParticleGuy]

Hey guys. I know I haven't written here a lot, but I am seeing a trend and want to point out something.

Please keep in mind, I won't argue any points made on this post. You can agree or disagree, but I won't argue them.

I was all over the Star Trek boards when Enterprise was cancelled. I don't know if any of you heard about some guy from Arkansas who wanted to save Enterprise, but it was a little fiasco that made Star Trek fans everywhere mad.

Before I continue, it is important to point out that Enterprise was not like Stargate. It was poorly written and produced by two people who did not share Gene Rodenberry's views or vision about the future. The ratings were horrible, and the stories worse. However, I can definitely say some mistakes can be universal in dealing with corporations that cancel shows. Business is business, no matter the product.

When Enterprise was cancelled, a 'fan-led' organization called Trek United (a term that makes die hard trekkies cringe) was created by a man from Arkansas, Tim Brazeal. He led a campaign and had thousands of dollars send to his organization by fans around the country. This made MSNBC news, with a full interview coverage. However, the studio (Paramount) refused the money, and Brazeal was forced to return all of the money he acquired from the endeavor.

Brazeal, after having been refused in the monetary offer by the studio, tried to organize a "Flower Box Campaign" in which fans were urged everywhere to send fake flowers in boxes to Moonves, who cancelled the show.

Neither campaign was successful.

Now, with the differences being that Stargate was a very popular show, and that the channel cancelling the show instead of the studio, I understand that there are differences.

However, when dealing with corporations or channels, the Trek fans have discovered that sending boxes are a bad idea, as well as trying to raise money.

MGM is interested in the franchise, so there will probably be more SG in the future. However, it's important that the fans take note from other campaigns and understand that behaving wisely, now matter how angry they may be over a corporate decision, reflects positively upon any future decision made by said corporation.

Agree or Disagree, it needed to be said.

[PG15]

10,000 sigs!!

Yeah, internet petitions don't do much, but 10000 in ~30 hours? Pretty impressive if you ask me.

[Colonel Sharp]

10,000 POSTS!!!!! WOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[little_ryoko]

I hope that I am not breaking any big rules here but I wanted to repeat the message I posted in the Stargate Cancelled thread here. (if I am breaking a rule, will someone please PM me so I can delete this?)

If I might make another recommendation. It would also help if everyone who goes to a place or work or school with stargate fans tries to raise some awareness of what's going on. Think of it this way each letter is more publicity. I would also recommend wrting letters to your nearest major newspaper and trying to raise awareness with their TV critics or editors. Try some TV trade magazines and websites as well. If anyone running the campaigns is looking for ideas you may want to take a leaf from the Save Daniel Jackson campaign and look at taking out ads in papers and magazines. Don't ever be discouraged. People always have more power than they think. They just need to find resolve.