What if the Ori are not ascended but are some other form of being. The Ori are similar to the wraith in that they feed off of the life essence of their followers. It is possible that they are a level beyond ascension. It would be interesting if the Ori weren't really ascended like the ancients but something infinitely more evil.
The evidence that the Ori are not ascended (they are some other higher order being):
(1) Ori choose to exist (or choose to exist in the flames of enlightenment) in the same plane as there followers.
(2) The flames of enlightenment are accessible to the Ori followers. The Ancients are innacessible to preascended beings.
(3) The Ori existing within the flames of enlightenment are a different type of higher order being.
(4) Ori have a different manifestation color from the ascended Ancients.
(5) Ascension is living on another innaccesible plane of existence.
(6) There are different levels of ascension. Anubis was only half ascended.
(7) There are possibly more Ori than Ancients who are ascended.
(8) The ancients gained there power by having other beings ascended with them whereas the Ori keep power to themselves because they have enough numbers to not need to share it.
(9) Sharing Ascension with others lessons your power. In the Ori view never share power with others.
(10) The Ori never take human form like the ancients but instead posess the Doci or the Prior.
(11) Ori ascension is not the same as Ancient ascension because it has a different ideology.
(12) The Ori prior was able to convert Gerak without going to the actual flames of enlightenment. The ancients didn't interfere with Gerak's conversion.
(13) The black being that the Ancients in Atlantis were studying is similar to half ascended Anubis. The Ancients only had half the equation for escension.
(14) Ascension is not nessecary for infinite knowledge.
(15) Ori make Origin accessible to there followers by providing access to the flames of enlightenment.
(16) Ascension is a form or state of energy that lower level beings transition into higher level beings.
(17) The Ori may have a much different energy state than the ascended Ancients.
(18) There might be something beyond ascension.
(19) Beings or lifeforms exist as energy and it is this energy that allows them to ascend or allows the Ori to feed off of there followers.
(20) The Ori view enlightenment as a form of ascension. Enlightenment does not provide all of the powers of ascension only the ones that the Ori provide.
(21) Daniel Jackson tried to intervene against Anubis but Oma Disala could not. Maybe the Ancients didn't want Daniel Jackson caught in an endless war with Anubis.
(22) Ascended higher order beings have a code of war and battle that they must obey.
(23) Ascended beings can not just fight other ascended beings.
It is possible that the ancients were not the first to ascend in the galaxy. It's possible that this is the reason for the non intervention. Maybe the first ascended beings want non intervention and there are so few ancients that they can't intervene. Maybe the dark entity being was an pre ascended Ori that they were studying.
What really is the flames of enlightenment? It is a mystical place that contains an eternal fire that contains the essence of the Ori? Maybe the flames of enlightenment exist in a paralell dimension to reallity and when Daniel and Vala are taken there it is to an alternate dimension.
The evidence that the Ori are not ascended (they are some other higher order being):
(1) Ori choose to exist (or choose to exist in the flames of enlightenment) in the same plane as there followers.
(2) The flames of enlightenment are accessible to the Ori followers. The Ancients are innacessible to preascended beings.
(3) The Ori existing within the flames of enlightenment are a different type of higher order being.
(4) Ori have a different manifestation color from the ascended Ancients.
(5) Ascension is living on another innaccesible plane of existence.
(6) There are different levels of ascension. Anubis was only half ascended.
(7) There are possibly more Ori than Ancients who are ascended.
(8) The ancients gained there power by having other beings ascended with them whereas the Ori keep power to themselves because they have enough numbers to not need to share it.
(9) Sharing Ascension with others lessons your power. In the Ori view never share power with others.
(10) The Ori never take human form like the ancients but instead posess the Doci or the Prior.
(11) Ori ascension is not the same as Ancient ascension because it has a different ideology.
(12) The Ori prior was able to convert Gerak without going to the actual flames of enlightenment. The ancients didn't interfere with Gerak's conversion.
(13) The black being that the Ancients in Atlantis were studying is similar to half ascended Anubis. The Ancients only had half the equation for escension.
(14) Ascension is not nessecary for infinite knowledge.
(15) Ori make Origin accessible to there followers by providing access to the flames of enlightenment.
(16) Ascension is a form or state of energy that lower level beings transition into higher level beings.
(17) The Ori may have a much different energy state than the ascended Ancients.
(18) There might be something beyond ascension.
(19) Beings or lifeforms exist as energy and it is this energy that allows them to ascend or allows the Ori to feed off of there followers.
(20) The Ori view enlightenment as a form of ascension. Enlightenment does not provide all of the powers of ascension only the ones that the Ori provide.
(21) Daniel Jackson tried to intervene against Anubis but Oma Disala could not. Maybe the Ancients didn't want Daniel Jackson caught in an endless war with Anubis.
(22) Ascended higher order beings have a code of war and battle that they must obey.
(23) Ascended beings can not just fight other ascended beings.
It is possible that the ancients were not the first to ascend in the galaxy. It's possible that this is the reason for the non intervention. Maybe the first ascended beings want non intervention and there are so few ancients that they can't intervene. Maybe the dark entity being was an pre ascended Ori that they were studying.
What really is the flames of enlightenment? It is a mystical place that contains an eternal fire that contains the essence of the Ori? Maybe the flames of enlightenment exist in a paralell dimension to reallity and when Daniel and Vala are taken there it is to an alternate dimension.
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