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    The "Hole-ier than thou" awards - Spoilers for all of SG-1 Season 10

    Welcome to the Gateworld "Hole-ier than thou" awards thread. The purpose of this thread is to create a list of (unexplained) plotholes in SG-1 Season 10 and to award the author who created the episode with most (unexplained) plotholes with the "Hole-ier than thou" award. The idea for this thread was founded in the Anti-S10 thread, credits goes to the people who thought this up.

    The rules:
    There will be no pro/anti fighting going on in here.
    Plotholes will not be placed in spoilertags and will be listed per episode.
    This post will serve as a list containing all found plotholes per episode and in spoiler tags to save space.
    If you don't agree with something being a plothole, please reply to the person giving the plothole and give valid reasons as to why it isn't a plothole. This means that the evidence against said plothole must've been given in aired episodes, so no speculations.
    Before submitting a plothole, please check whether or not this plothole has already been mentioned.

    Also read these two posts as they discuss the rules more detailed:
    http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost....9&postcount=20
    http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost....7&postcount=21

    Current Episode:
    1004 "INSIDERS":
    Spoiler:
    1) Why does Sam have access to a list which she doesn't need to have access to?
    2) And why is that, important, list accessable from every terminal inside the SG-C when that list should only be accessible form the controlroom?
    3) Why weren't the guards and invasion teams equiped with symbiot poison grenades?
    4) Why was Barrett's keycard capable of opening Ba'al's celldoor when he wasn't authorized to be near Ba'al?
    5) there is NO WAY IN HADES an alkash will crash in colorado and not be on the internet within half an hour. not with an air force base, air force academy, army base, local air port, international airport 70 miles away and a quarter million people living in the city (or so, not quite sure what colorado springs' population is)
    6) how about barrett even keeping his gun?? most military bases have you secure y our weapon, only thier guards get to stay armed
    7) no one was monitoring the data transfer? how come the lan lines weren't cut off from the main frame as soon as they lost control of the area
    8) I think the courts-martial should start with Landry, for stupidity in not locking down the mountain, and making Ba'al's passage more difficult. Also for not locking out Sam's access codes once she was comprimised and captured.
    9) the SF's for allowing an armed Barrett into seeing the prisoner (um what is Security for!!!!)
    10) If Landry had done his job right (in which Sam would think he did) then using her password shouldn't have worked and she could have used her computer skills to give a corrupted file to Ba'al and save the hostages!
    11) The locator beacons should have been removed as soon as they identified them. Basic security procedure.
    12) When did the symbiote poison not become immediately effective? Remember the tiny amount Daniel had to take out the summit meeting? (Addition by LaCroix: Line from Summit: JACOB: More than you know. There's enough material in that vial to kill every Tok'ra on this base twice over.)
    13) Why was an on probation civilian (Vala) leading a team of SFs?
    14) Why did Sam give in so easily to Ba'al, she's been through a lot worse and didn't give in then.
    15) What were all Ba'als doing on 1 single level, clearly this is a security hazard.
    16) Why wasn't Ba'al cuffed? Since it's normal to handcuff captured enemies, especially a Goa'uld, to prevent them from taking weapons etc..
    Last edited by Gregorius; 07 August 2006, 12:05 PM.
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    #2
    1004 "INSIDERS":
    - The locator beacons should have been removed as soon as they identified them. Basic security procedure.
    - When did the symbiote poison not become immediately effective? Remember the tiny amount Daniel had to take out the summit meeting?
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      #3
      1004 "Insiders"

      Why was an on probation civilian (Vala) leading a team of SFs?

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        #4
        1004 "Insiders"

        Does anyone remember this line from Summit.

        JACOB: More than you know. There's enough material in that vial to kill every Tok'ra on this base twice over.

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          #5
          1004 Insiders
          Jamming devices jam everything. Not just everything untill you get alot of it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Esquin
            1004 Insiders
            Jamming devices jam everything. Not just everything untill you get alot of it.
            According to the definition of jamming, jamming serves to limit the effectiveness of an opponent's communications and/or detection equipment. So this probably isn't a plothole, since the cummelative effect of the beacons could've been just enough to be effective and cause them to be beamed away. (Compare the jammers to a dam and the beacons to water, the moment the water gets too high/strong behind the dam, the dam either breaks and the water is free to run or the water starts flowing around the dam).
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              #7
              No clear chain of command on a top secret, first line of defense Air Force base.
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                #8
                Question, are we just doing Insiders now, or can we list other episodes?
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mandysg1
                  Question, are we just doing Insiders now, or can we list other episodes?
                  All episodes of Season 10 are allowed, hence the "Spoilers for all of S10". It wouldn't be much of an award with only one episode
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                    #10
                    FLESH AND BLOOD:

                    Why didn't Adria know Danny-boy was on board?
                    Why didn't Adria kill Vala when it was obvious (immediatly) she wouldn't convert?
                    Why was the ring platform not secured/deactivated/ EVEN GUARDED during battle?

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                      #11
                      1. She's not an ori. She's not fully grown. Her abilities were still developing.
                      2. Vala is her mother!
                      3. They did not know that they could beam, ring aboard. and have you ever seen a hatak with a guarded ring platform?

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                        #12
                        Let's also remember, this is meant to be fun (yes, i'm well aware of the irony of that word)

                        no mean spirits. No insults towards the writers/people.

                        Keep it fun and let's see which episode ends up with the most unaccountable and unfillable plot holes
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tobi
                          1. She's not an ori. She's not fully grown. Her abilities were still developing.
                          2. Vala is her mother!
                          3. They did not know that they could beam, ring aboard. and have you ever seen a hatak with a guarded ring platform?
                          1. She knew that Vala wasn't actually converted. Telepathy.
                          2. And humans are her race, doesn't seem to concerned about killing them. Also still hasn't ordered her to be captured instead of shot IIRC.
                          3. The Goa'uld thought they were Gods, the Ori know they're simply sapping life force.

                          EDIT: Also, didn't the Ori read the minds of Daniel and Vala when they were in Celestus? I think they'd of clued her in about the beaming thing.
                          Last edited by gatelover12; 07 August 2006, 09:28 AM.

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                            #14
                            By gatelover12:
                            Why didn't Adria know Danny-boy was on board?
                            Why didn't Adria kill Vala when it was obvious (immediatly) she wouldn't convert?
                            Why was the ring platform not secured/deactivated/ EVEN GUARDED during battle?
                            1) She was still growing, her powers and knowledge weren't completely sorted out, as we later see in the episode.

                            2) Vala is Adria's mother, she cares about her despite the fact that she is an unbeliever. Adria isn't psychotic, she wouldn't just kill her mother for something like that. (Watch Counterstrike)

                            3) Arrogance, maybe?No Real need. It's not like they really did any damage to the ship, so nothing bad happened except the loss of Vala.

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                              #15
                              Just a small note: The evidence against mentioned plotholes must be given in aired episodes and can't be speculation.
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