Question about Pegasus Project (spoiler)

[Endeav]

How exactly did they establish a wormhole connection from the blackhole in pegasus with the stargate next to the supergate? I'm pretty sure it means that they just establisehd a wormhole connection from pegasus to milky way, using standard stargates, without using a ZPM or other power source. I'm not trying to flame the episode; I did watch it twice and there was no mention of a borrowing of Atlantis's ZPM to power the gate from pegasus to dial milky way.

[freyr's mother]

How exactly did they establish a wormhole connection from the blackhole in pegasus with the stargate next to the supergate? I'm pretty sure it means that they just establisehd a wormhole connection from pegasus to milky way, using standard stargates, without using a ZPM or other power source. I'm not trying to flame the episode; I did watch it twice and there was no mention of a borrowing of Atlantis's ZPM to power the gate from pegasus to dial milky way.

They dialed the coordinates of the planet that no longer exists and was destroyed in the formation of the microsingularity needed for the creation of the supergate. It was powered by the black hole. The black hole could keep the gate powered indefinately.

[Endeav]

If dialing out of a galaxy was as simple as putting a stargate beside a black hole, couldn't they do that in milky way to dial atlantis without using a ZPM?

[Major Tyler]

If dialing out of a galaxy was as simple as putting a stargate beside a black hole, couldn't they do that in milky way to dial atlantis without using a ZPM?

Nope. The energy from the Black Hole would maintain the Stargate connection indefinitely, and the gravitational forces would translate through the gate, causing relativistic time dilation and eventually destroy Atlantis. See the SG-1 episode "Matter of Time."

[the fifth man]

Nope. The energy from the Black Hole would maintain the Stargate connection indefinitely, and the gravitational forces would translate through the gate, causing relativistic time dilation and eventually destroy Atlantis. See the SG-1 episode "Matter of Time."

And that would definitely not be a good thing.

[Major Tyler]

And that would definitely not be a good thing.

Clearly.

[the fifth man]

Clearly.

Of course, the Wraith would probably have no problem with that though.

[chanvw]

Nope. The energy from the Black Hole would maintain the Stargate connection indefinitely, and the gravitational forces would translate through the gate, causing relativistic time dilation and eventually destroy Atlantis. See the SG-1 episode "Matter of Time."

However, as we saw, ships can approach (and therefore probably can go through) gates this close to the black hole, so why do they need the

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Intergalactic Bridge that they were talking about in Atlantis' Irresistable?

Surely this kind of "easy connection" is more practical. I understand that you'd still need to have the larger Daedelus/Oddysey to ferry the jumpers back and forth, but it'd still save a load of time compared to the 3 weeks that it currently takes... Just find two more black holes (one in each galaxy), and connect from the Milky Way, and voila!

[Avatar28]

Call me crazy but something tells me that tooling around close to a black hole isn't really the safest thing to be doing. They'll do it if the situation requires it but I don't think they would want to make it a regular habit. Plus I'm not sure a smaller ship like a jumper could handle the area as well as a larger ship could.

[Major Tyler]

Call me crazy but something tells me that tooling around close to a black hole isn't really the safest thing to be doing. They'll do it if the situation requires it but I don't think they would want to make it a regular habit. Plus I'm not sure a smaller ship like a jumper could handle the area as well as a larger ship could.

Quite right. The Odyssey never not as close to the black hole as the Stargate did (not by a long shot). Emerson himself said that they were in a dangerous enough position as it was staying at maximum transporter range. A puddlejumper would be torn apart by gravitational forces.

[Keffler]

I was wondering about this intergalactic bridge of stargates. What would be the adress of the stargates between the 2 galaxies? I thought you needed a planet in the area to dial the gate?

[startrekker]

According to Nerus in Off the Grid, the gate transmits its new position to the entire gate network as part of the automatic correlative update program. You just probably just need to stay in one relative area.

[Seastallion]

I was wondering about this intergalactic bridge of stargates. What would be the adress of the stargates between the 2 galaxies? I thought you needed a planet in the area to dial the gate?

No, you don't need a planet to have an address. The address is relative to the position of the gate within the galaxy, not the planet its on. By means of extended extrapolation, the same coordinate system used within the galaxy will work outside the galaxy as well. It is why the stargate network can dial outside the galaxy. The same method applies here as well. Neither planets nor stars themselves directly determine a stargates address. They move, and over many thousands to millions of years a stargates address changes anyways. There is something however that does NOT change. A virtual pan-galactic grid that uses the symbols on the gate as indicators when targeting other gates. That grid allows stargates to have the same address no matter where someone is dialing in from. Otherwise, every stargate would have a different address depending on every other gate you might dial in from. Meaning each gate would potentially have thousands of different addresses just to reach that one gate. It isn't feasible. All the gates must have a single standared, and the virtual pan-galactic grid provides that. Certainly addresses change over time, but not for many millenia at a time. The star positions change, but the grid itself doesn't. It also allows you target gates outside the galaxy.

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Hopefully, the illustration above might help.

[J. Stone]

This is in no way, shape or form a slam to the people on this board. Just thought I'd say that first. You guys are fantastic! You have put a ton of thought into this show. I have never even considered any of this. Well done. I'm in awe.