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Jprime
August 8th, 2004, 08:51 AM
Who would win in a fight: Robocop, or the Terminator?

T-800 only, cause T-1000 could just tear him to shreds, and TX's plasma cannon could wipe out Robocop in one shot.

Original Robocop only, Alex Murphy, no John Cable.

Weapons are: Terminator's shotgun, and Robocops built in hangin thingys.

LoneStar1836
August 8th, 2004, 09:56 AM
Terminator for sure just because he is cooler. :cool: Plus Robocop is still part human under all that metal. So excuse my bluntness but just cap him in the head and the Terminator wins.

Jprime
August 8th, 2004, 11:39 AM
Ever wonder why nobody ever thinks to shoot Robocop in the mouth below the visor? Sure headshots are rare, but if he's just standing there waiting for you to run out of ammo like he usually does, what the heck, just blow through his brainstem, if he still has one, paralyzing him, and probably killing him.

Robocop, for all his armour, is pretty easy to disable, that Bone Machine thing got him with ONE SHOT.

Hohenzollern
August 8th, 2004, 12:33 PM
I would have to go with the Terminator. just a more robust design.

We know Robocop had to ingest a "food" to keep his living parts going...but as the T800 had a living covering...how did he keep those cells/tissues fed I wonder?

In T2 did the T800 (Arnie) ingest some of that Subway take out in that blatantly promotional scene?

Metonic
August 8th, 2004, 09:22 PM
Terminator you mean Arnold? hmm tough choice. lets see, according to terminator they have actual skin and nerves and crap ontop of their metal skeleton, and Robocop is still part human, so I guess that would about equal it out in how they would react to pain but i guess termy wouldnt be as hurt. Anyway they both see like robots, they both get back up after their killed. and they both die frequantly. But I think because Robocop is afterall human with an armor suit, if the shot gun has enough power to penetrat the armor then hes dead, if it can not then terminator should atleast put a few dents in the amror that push back on the body like if he shot the knee the armor would just push his knee back and hed fal land termy could kill him then. Robocop however must aimt at the head because Terminators shut down when they have no head, they could have notheing but a head and live. So if he shot the head and then rip his head off just to make sure then throw hsi corpse in "liquid hot magma" to ensure hsi death but I guess it depends on where you have them fight, the terminator with liquid metal cwouldnt of been defeated if it werent for it metling(if its possible for liquid to melt.. maybes hes just sitting in there) So I guess it depends o nwhere it is.

Supreme Commander Thor
August 8th, 2004, 10:54 PM
I think the Terminator would win hands down.

ibwolf
August 9th, 2004, 06:48 AM
I would imagine the Terminator to be a much more durable design. I mean, just look at what it has taken to kill the thing in each of the three movies. Robocop on the other hand has the very real weakness of having an organic brain that is just as easy to destroy as yours or mine (if you can get past the armor). So my money is on the Terminator.

Jprime
August 9th, 2004, 07:03 AM
Well actually in T2 the Terminator tells John Connor that his nerves give him data that "could be referred to as pain". However he's either misusing the analogy (how could he know what pain feels like???) or he has a pain tolorence through the roof! He has: hand a lit cigar drilled into his chect, cut off his own damaged cornea, withstood hundreds of bullets, had his head ripped off, ripped the skin off his arm, his abs, been lit on fire, and has had his arm crushed in two movies, all without breaking a sweat.

Yes I know they're all different T-101s but thats just a hint at the sort of punishment the T-800 can withstand.

Jprime
August 9th, 2004, 07:05 AM
. Robocop however must aimt at the head because Terminators shut down when they have no head, they could have notheing but a head and live.

In all three movies, the skull of the Terminator has been proven to deflect bullets without even leaving a scratch. That hyperalloy is freaking tough!

Giantevilhead
August 9th, 2004, 07:55 PM
There's no way that Robocop could win. The Terminator is made of much more advanced material, something called hyperalloy, while Robocop's armor is made of titanium. The Terminator can take a heap load more damage than Robocop, his head gets rammed by a big rig in T1 and he was still fully functional while Robocop gets terribly stunned when he gets hit in the head. The Terminator has an advanced artificial intelligence while Robocop only has a human brain.

Giantevilhead
August 9th, 2004, 07:56 PM
Well actually in T2 the Terminator tells John Connor that his nerves give him data that "could be referred to as pain". However he's either misusing the analogy (how could he know what pain feels like???) or he has a pain tolorence through the roof! He has: hand a lit cigar drilled into his chect, cut off his own damaged cornea, withstood hundreds of bullets, had his head ripped off, ripped the skin off his arm, his abs, been lit on fire, and has had his arm crushed in two movies, all without breaking a sweat.

Yes I know they're all different T-101s but thats just a hint at the sort of punishment the T-800 can withstand.

The Terminator was not misusing the analogy. He's saying that he could feel the injuries and that the data could be interpreted as pain but he never says that he feels it the same way humans do.

MartoufMarty
August 9th, 2004, 08:12 PM
my god, do you even have to ask???

THE TERMINATOR of course!

Ancient 1
August 9th, 2004, 10:27 PM
Terminator wins, IMO, because Robocop is just a cyborg while the Terminator is...well whatever the oposite of a cyborg is. Besides, he is way cooler.

MartoufMarty
August 10th, 2004, 08:45 AM
my mom says that they're both evenly matched and that probably Robocop has a good chance of winning.

my sister says the Terminatrix would kick all their asses... to this, i agree :P

aschen
August 10th, 2004, 08:59 AM
I think rust would win. :D

But seriously, definetely the Govenator. :nod:

Jprime
August 10th, 2004, 09:19 AM
I thought the TX was the best of both 800 and 1000. She's got built in weapons and a metal skeleton, and an outer layer of liquid metal. However some elements of her remote control capabilities are obviously hollywoodized to the max.
Even with an acoustic coupler modem (when she accesses school records) it still takes wacks of time to get in, more if you need to crack firewalls, passowrds, wardial ect. Not to mention the interferance from the passing cars and such.

Assuming she could take control of the computers in the cars and trucks, the steering colomn, a purely mechanical device with no connection to the compy, still does the steering! She might be able to turn on the engine, but she couldnt even push the gas pedal!

Did her skin get thinner when she grew boobs?

Howcome she had long hair when she first came back in time and tied it up later ?

If only living things can go (t1) howcome she can? Shes made of metal, liquid or otherwhise? DId Skynet redesign its Temporal displacer? Why then did she have to come in naked (ok thats not a TOTALLY valid question).

Giantevilhead
August 10th, 2004, 01:11 PM
I thought the TX was the best of both 800 and 1000. She's got built in weapons and a metal skeleton, and an outer layer of liquid metal. However some elements of her remote control capabilities are obviously hollywoodized to the max.
Even with an acoustic coupler modem (when she accesses school records) it still takes wacks of time to get in, more if you need to crack firewalls, passowrds, wardial ect. Not to mention the interferance from the passing cars and such.

Of course she was hollywoodrized, so was the T-1000 and the only reason why the T-800 in T1 wasn't hollywoodrized was because of the low budget.


Assuming she could take control of the computers in the cars and trucks, the steering colomn, a purely mechanical device with no connection to the compy, still does the steering! She might be able to turn on the engine, but she couldnt even push the gas pedal!

She uses nanites.


Did her skin get thinner when she grew boobs?

Probably.


Howcome she had long hair when she first came back in time and tied it up later ?

The first person she killed had her hair tied up so she copied her hair style as well as her clothes.


If only living things can go (t1) howcome she can? Shes made of metal, liquid or otherwhise? DId Skynet redesign its Temporal displacer? Why then did she have to come in naked (ok thats not a TOTALLY valid question).

Reese said that the reason why only living things can go through had something to do with the electromagnetic field of living organisms so the T-1000 and the T-X probably can generate EM fields similar to that of living flesh.

Jprime
August 10th, 2004, 01:31 PM
See one thing many people overestimate is nanites. If hundreds of them worked for years on a single goal, they still would only be able to build things the size of a grain of sand.

It would take years for nanites from the tx to REACH the vehicles (assuming she never went over to them off camera), and thats not even accounting for the time it would take them to take control of the on board compy systems.

Giantevilhead
August 10th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Well, considering the fact that we've only barely scratched the surface of nanotechnology, there's really no way of knowing how fast they can reproduce. Plus they actually showed the T-X going over to some of the vehicles, drilling holes into them and injecting nanites into them.

Jprime
August 10th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Really? I only saw her going over to that one with her bluish finger probe thingy.

Giantevilhead
August 10th, 2004, 09:16 PM
That bluish finger probe is what she uses to inject the nanites into machines.

Jprime
August 11th, 2004, 06:51 AM
Yes I supposed as much. Still it didnt exactly drill holes and poke the nannies in, so they probably had to move around a little. I guess the pulsing blue light is pumping the nannies of of her body, or maybe its an internal resevoir (nursery?) of nanites specifically built for that process?

Giantevilhead
August 11th, 2004, 02:08 PM
Watch the movie again, you can clearly see the T-X using her finger probe to drill a hole in one of the police cars.