GateWorld Virtual Fleet

[immhotep]

ive edited it to include the first wave, the only fighter battle that ive done. i plan for this to be one of the largest battles i write, there will be about 7 Waves to this thing, so it will be released in installments of maybe 2 waves a piece over the next week or so.

[Buba uognarf]

Thats a good opening, very good...i've decided to write the big battle i had planned a while ago...

premis

After losing ground during the Superhive incident the alliance has been struggling to regain lost ground and the constant wraith offensive is slowly wearing us down. Troop moral is low and Alliance command has made a descision that has shocked the ranks it's all or nothing the largest battle of the war is set to take place, to have any hope of winning this war the wraith forces in the Kratus systems must been destroyed and them driven from our territory...

Victory would mean hope and force the wraith to fall back to their own space but defeat would mean the end of the war...

The largest battle in the history of the galaxy and the battle that will determain the future of pegasus is about to begin..

this a rough idea oof the forces involved...

Wraith

211 hives
298 predators
350 cruisers
130,000 darts

Alliance

I'm going to include the Hades battle fleet but is it ok if i use the Phoenix fleet immhotep...for just this occasion seeing as this is such an important battle i think that phoenix would be there i'm also going to need another battle fleet so if someone could come up with one that would be good if not i'll make another one...

edit:

this is more detail on the hades battle fleet in particular it's sub fleets...

Sub fleets

To patrol such a large area of space the Hades fleet has to be large and as well as it’s main fleet it has several autonomous sub fleets which function on their own but that are also part of the whole…

These fleets are as follows…

Sub fleet – 1

- 5 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-7 Henry arnolds cruiser
-12 unity destroyers
-A combined airwing of 100 F-302a's and F/B-307

Sub fleet – 2

- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-7 unity destroyer
-4 tegelus gunship
-3 deadalus class battlecarrier
-A combined airwing of 100 F-302a's and F/B-307

Sub fleet - 3

- 2 Serpent battlecruisers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-7 deadalus class battlecarrier
-7 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 70 F-302a's and F/B-307

[immhotep]

Yeah sure use my fleet by all means, but you need to set it after 2026 and give it enough time to recover any losses from other battles i write..put it at 2030 and then were all good.

FYI This is going to be HUGE isnt it, i just rechecked the forces holy crap were going to get a beating! i give you permission to use every ship we have and the valhalla, if we win i cant wait to read how!

[Buba uognarf]

Yeah sure use my fleet by all means, but you need to set it after 2026 and give it enough time to recover any losses from other battles i write..put it at 2030 and then were all good.

FYI This is going to be HUGE isnt it, i just rechecked the forces holy crap were going to get a beating! i give you permission to use every ship we have and the valhalla, if we win i cant wait to read how!

yeah this is going to be massive and fought accross an entire solar system with the alliance fighting for each world...this is going to be the turning point in the war...

can i set the battle in 2029? because i set the superhive incident in 2027 and if its in 2030 then it's quite a large gap though i'm moving the superhive to 2028...

[immhotep]

sure that fine, im only using my battlegroup for mine and yeah 2029 is fine.

[immhotep]

buba how are your battlegroup ideas coming along?

[Buba uognarf]

they're coming along fine...what would you like to know???

[Buba uognarf]

ok while i'm writing the battle i thought i'd so you more detail on the forces involved...

One small step for man…-Wraith vs Alliance battle
-24 august 2029

premise

After losing ground during the Superhive incident the alliance has been struggling to regain lost ground and the constant wraith offensive is slowly wearing us down. Troop moral is low and Alliance command has made a decision that has shocked the ranks it's all or nothing the largest battle of the war is set to take place, to have any hope of winning this war the wraith forces in the Kratus systems must been destroyed and them driven from our territory...

Victory would mean hope and force the wraith to fall back to their own space but defeat would mean the end of the war...

The largest battle in the history of the galaxy and the battle that will determine the future of Pegasus is about to begin…

Fleets involved

Wraith

211 hives
298 predators
350 cruisers
130,000 darts

Alliance

Fleet 1 :

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-12 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-8 Henry arnolds cruiser
-6 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-3 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-12 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 536 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-10 serpents
-6 deadali's
-4 Aegis class carriers
-12 Henry arnolds cruiser
-10 unity destroyer
-10 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-10 Alkesh bombers
-1000 F-302's
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 2:

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
-7 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-2 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 500 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 8 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-10 Henry arnolds cruiser
-14 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-6 deadalus class battlecarrier
-6 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 1000 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 3:

Titan + Hercules + Scimitar combined forces

- 15 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-20 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 deadalus class battlecarrier
-20 Alkesh bombers
-6 columbia class assault carrier
-A combined airwing of 1200 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Asgard: (On route at the beginning of the battle)

-11 Asgard oneills
-Valhalla


Wraith System – Kratus

Planets + Defenses

Kratus IV:

Large baron planet, no life but supports a huge mining operation and 3 shipyards…

Defenses
- Wraith orbital mining station
- 44 wraith orbital defense canons
- 3 standard wraith shipyards


Kratus III:

Medium sized planet with approximately 5 million wraith, heavily defended with planetary defense canons and orbital defense canons it also has a wraith super station in orbit…

Defenses
- Wraith Super station with 5 additional ship yards
- 56 wraith orbital defense canons
- 38 planetary defense canons


Kratus II:

Medium sized planet with approximately 200 thousand wraith, lightly defended with light planetary defenses…

Defenses
- 2 ship yards
- 13 wraith orbital defense canons
- 17 planetary defense canons

Kratus I:

Large sized planet with approximately 3 billion wraith, most heavily defended world outside the home system

Defenses
- 2 Super stations and 13 additional shipyards
- 76 wraith orbital defense canons
- 98 planetary defense canons

[immhotep]

WOW this is going to blow us away!

[freyr's mother]

Why doesn't everyone give cooky and the gang a chance to complete the CG for one battle before you guys load them up with some superbattles.

[immhotep]

Because cooky isnt doing the models anymore and we decided to press ahead because otherwise the thread would die..

[WTFOwned]

Wait - what's the deal with this? The first post didn't explain much.
Can we still join?
What modelling program is being used, because I can just export the model of my ship rather easily rather than having it be remade just for this.

If I can still join this gigantic CG battle, I'd go with my Draco, mainly because I put four months of work into designing the ship and coming up with ways that - even in the real world - it could exist today.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/gruntmaps/draco_overview.jpg
I'm working on updating the specs sheet, so you'll have to wait on that...
In the mean time you can look at my wallpaper:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/gruntmaps/wallpaper.jpg

[immhotep]

yeah you can still join, my first few posts in the thread are the ones that explain alot, in fact just search for Immhotep because ive made quite a few recap posts ...thatll get you up to speed.
ps im away for the weekend

[Daryl Froggy]

yeah you can still join, my first few posts in the thread are the ones that explain alot, in fact just search for Immhotep because ive made quite a few recap posts ...thatll get you up to speed.
ps im away for the weekend
Does that mean I can suggest another of my ships for the fleet?

[immhotep]

Id prefer that we didnt, we just started getting coherent battle's with similar ships and their capabilities together, and to add new ships now would kind of undo that..
That being said we arew still open for people with modelling skill to help out, and you have some top modeling skills WTFOwened..

Im hoping to get the 2nd wave of the battle done today so look forward to that later.

[immhotep]

Engagment - Second wave
The sqadrens of fighters had emerged victorius against the first engagment of wraith and human force in this grand and pivitol battle. Next in the to the fray was a full on bomber and fighter conflict agaisnt the cruiser concentration between the two main wraith fleets.
13 squadrens of bombers(nearly 200), armed with gate buster's and our latest tactical nukes were the first wave; in addition to nearly 500 F-302's and F-302a's were trailing behind the bombers who would cause maximum damage using conventional weapons and then the fighters would hopefully only have to mop up. Agaisnt a large and well positioned wraith fleet of cruisers this was a tough tactical challenge but alone and unable to fight the hives due to sheer numbers the fleet of fighter/bombers took thier chances.

The wraith were aware of the much smaller, albeit more numerous fleet approaching, they armed all primary weapons and raised thier shields. The bombers all launched their first wave. 400 mark X naquadria enhanced warheads slammed in to the 160 strong cruiser armarda.
The result was confusing, some of wraith shields collapsed under the confined space, with so many explosions in such a confined area the collateral damage did much devastation. however, many ships still remained, pockets of cruisers had been taken out and where the nuke had work they worked so well that it was unclear how many were actualy destroyed because no evidence was left.
it is estimated 89 cruisers were destroed by the first wave, but our bomber fleet was caught in many of the blasts; the cruisers that had survived posed a large challenge, isolated yet still strong. All the remaining bombers came in for a second wave. which was joined by the fight wing that had been trailing, our entire fleet of fighters, the largest in the galaxy smashed in hit and run tactical strikes against cruiser after cruiser. The fight for air space was totally over, we had won a massive victory agaisnt the wraith suport craft, besting a large dart fleet and the entire supporting cruiser fleet in a stuning display of Earth air fighters capabilities. However now was the time to let the big guns play. The fighters could do no more and retreated to the orbit of a nearby moon, awaiting reinforcements. With only large Hive fleets left there was simply nothing the smaller craft could od but sit and wait.

Ok so this is the newest part of the battle, hope you enjoy :)
Immhotep

[WTFOwned]

Id prefer that we didnt, we just started getting coherent battle's with similar ships and their capabilities together, and to add new ships now would kind of undo that..
That being said we arew still open for people with modelling skill to help out, and you have some top modeling skills WTFOwened..

Im hoping to get the 2nd wave of the battle done today so look forward to that later.
I'd be happy to help out, just let me know what's needed!


EDIT:
Do you by any chance need an Ori battle cruiser? Just made one for the heck of it using some simple poly modeling.

[immhotep]

We have a list of all the ships in the fleet + spec on page 36 i believe or around that area, these could be modeled if you have the time/energy to do so.

[cooky]

good work on the story immhotep.

[NoDot]

Is it too late to add another (minor but powerful) antagonist?

The Triumverent
The Triumverent is an ancient human organization, the origin of which is only speculatory. They have access to advanced knowledge of the intricacies of Ancient and Wraith technology, with a large portion of their technology seeming to stem from both. The organization prides itself on security and backup plans, often going several levels. They primarily operate from four known platforms, namely the Main Stations, enourmous guarded ships powered by singularities which often can be seen ramming into opposing ships during a battle; Black Hole Stations, which orbit black holes (duh!) and are protected by other artificial satelites orbiting the black hole to provide shielding and weapons; underground (mostly) bases found on planets whose population is loyal to the Triumverent, or a planet which cannot support a population for whatever reason; and free-space shipyards, which usually are found on boundries where a Stargate cannot dial or would have extreme difficulty dialing.

Atlantis discovered the Triumverent when the dialed one of their Black Hole Stations (henceforth BHS). They were given an Asuran greeting (warm and friendly, but "Please leave soon."). After they discovered they had come from Atlantis, a Great Carrier (large carrier-type warship which carry a larger variety of ships/weapons) was dispatched to Atlantis to seize the city. Weir and AT-1 managed to destroy the ship and transport down, though making an enemy of the Triumverent.

After Atlantis and the Asgard began their war with the Araith, and after the Wraith ballooned their numbers, rendering the Triumverent's efforts over the past 10,000 years in lowering those numbers pointless. (Then again, ask them what they thought of those efforts, and they never thought much of them, either.) For now, the Triumverent have stood back, watching Atlantis and the Asgard fight the Wraith and the Reavers, waiting for one to finish the other off...

The Triumverent and accompanying material is the intellectual property of NoDot. Do not use without permission.

[Buba uognarf]

great battle immhotep, i'll hopefully post the first part of my battle today...

the battle for the outer colonies...

Intresting enemy NoDot, i had also thought of adding in a human foe similar to yours but you've doen it very well i'd like to see some ship specs...

i think we've got enough foes now though so i think no more otherwise it's going to get abit hetic...

[NoDot]

Intresting enemy NoDot, i had also thought of adding in a human foe similar to yours but you've doen it very well i'd like to see some ship specs...I'll be happy to post them later, after I type them up. ;)


i think we've got enough foes now though so i think no more otherwise it's going to get abit hetic...Hectic isn't bad! It'll just mean we can have more interesting battles.

In any case, what do the rest of you think?

[Buba uognarf]

Hectic isn't bad! It'll just mean we can have more interesting battles.

In any case, what do the rest of you think?

I meant keep ur enemy just don't make any more

[Buba uognarf]

sorry for the double post but in the prelude to posting of my battle i thought i'd post the specs for the wraith stations....

Wraith stations

wraith construction facility

Wraith construction facility

Dimensions:

Height: 8.4km

3x 5km contruction bays each capable of building a hive a month

Material:
Wraith inorganic and organic superstructure with wraith bio armour etc... melded on

Power:
3 wraith hive generators

Engines:
6x Massive wraith thrusters to propel station into orbit or to adjust position

Defensive weaponry:
64x point defense disintegration canons

Offensive weaponry:
40x hiveship canons(placed for full fire coverage)


Defense:
1x heavy 2nd generation wraith shield generator
75m thick wraith bio armour multi layered and ablative to defend against drones and nukes(Armours design makes it almost impervious to serious damage)
-Internal shields to protect station from taking critical damage and protect against internal explosions


Fighters:
4000x darts

Other:
Standard wraith equipment


Designed to quickly build wraith hiveships and other vessels this station is capable of docking with a much larger wraith structure to add offensive and defensive power...


Wraith Superstation


Wraith superstation



Dimensions:

Height: 16.5km

11x 5km contruction bays each capable of building a hive a month

Material:
Wraith inorganic and organic superstructure with wraith bio armour etc... melded on

Power:
5 wraith hive generators

Engines:
12x Massive wraith thrusters to propel station into orbit or to adjust position

Defensive weaponry:
140x point defense disintegration canons

Offensive weaponry:
96x hiveship canons(placed for full fire coverage)


Defense:
3x heavy 2nd generation wraith shield generator(3 needed to cover the whole structure)
130m thick wraith bio armour multi layered and ablative to defend against drones and nukes(Armours design makes it almost impervious to serious damage)
-Internal shields to protect station from taking critical damage and protect against internal explosions


Fighters:
8000x darts

Other:
Standard wraith equipment


The largest wraith structure positioned to defend key planets and build the vast armies of the wraith it can be joined with other smaller wraith stations to increase firepower and defense


Wraith oribital canon (design modified from tobi's original)

Wraith Orbital Defense Canon

Size:
Hight:75 Meters
Length: 120 Meters
Width: 60 Meters

Powersouce: Tied in a powergrind network, recieves power from nearby stations

Defese: 10 Meter thick organic armor(won't take much damage), shield matrix tied into the mining stations and/or superstation

Offense: 4x Modified version of the Hive Plasma Weapon. Has 2 Times the Power of a normal shot. Has to be charged, so it takes 5 seconds until it can fire again.

History: When the wraith decided to settel on planets and start mining all over the galaxy for the war with the Tau'ri, they needed a new weapon to protect their outposts and Planets. So it would be much harder to ambush a system and destroy the outpost. It was first testet on a not upgraded Hive without shield, the test went according to expectations, the Hive was destroyed with one shot.


Wraith Spider - Orbital Mining Station

Wraith Spider - Orbital Mining Station

Size:

Diameter: 6.7km
Height: 1km


Power source:
-5 Hive Generators.

Defense:
-75 Meter thick organic bio armor
-Wraith defense shield incredably strong (advanced energy transfer links allow the mining station to generate shields around each of the individual defense canons)

Offense:
-25 wraith hive canons placed for full fire coverage

Support:
- 2000 darts
- 4 cruisers

Other technology:
- Transmitter dish able to transfer shield power to 12 individual defense canons (if the mining station is destroyed they will be defenseless.
- Bio matter conversion beam (used to mine planets dematerializes planet matter into useable substances)

History:

This station resembles a large spider and is lightly armed, it’s mining beam can process all known materials. It forms a direct link with orbital canons allowing them to benefit from it’s immense shield power the orbit canons are virtually indestructible as long as the orbital mining station is operational

Wraith planetary canon

Wraith planetary canon
Size:

Length: 67m (barrel)



Power source:
-Tied directly into wraith power grid

Defense:
-Wraith defense shield able to repel as much as 800 megatons of force a second anything over will collapse the shield

Offense:
- A single gun with a 360 degree arch of fire able to fire into high orbit it has 3 settings detailed below.

Crew:
-10 wraith but can be completely autimated.

History + gun details:

To defend the home system the high queen ordered the comission of a network of canons able to repel any assualt, because of the huge power requirements to operate such a system only the home system is defended in this way...

Gun settings:
1) Burst mode - rapidly fires pulses at variable degrees of power ranging between 3 shots a second with 75% of a hive blast to 1 shot every 3 seconds with 400% of the output. Best for use against large fleets of small manueverable ships.

2)Beam mode - using data from lantean satelites the entire energy stored in the capaciters is focused and fired through beam emitters it can fire for 10 seconds before charging for another 30. This function is perfect for breaking through shields it take out an upgraded hive in 3 shots and can cut a cruiser in half with 1.

3)Blast mode - Empties the entire capacitor into the enemy ship in a single shot with nearly 200 gigatons of force though in doing this the beam emitters are usually burned out and the gun is forced out of action.

Hive canon force – 3 gigatons

thoughts???

[Buba uognarf]

Sorry for the tripple post but it wouldn't fit in another post and couldn't be bothered to wait...

One small step for man…-Wraith vs Alliance battle -24 august 2029

premise
After losing ground during the Superhive incident the alliance has been struggling to regain lost ground and the constant wraith offensive is slowly wearing us down. Troop moral is low and Alliance command has made a decision that has shocked the ranks it's all or nothing the largest battle of the war is set to take place, to have any hope of winning this war the wraith forces in the Kratus systems must been destroyed and them driven from our territory...

Victory would mean hope and force the wraith to fall back to their own space but defeat would mean the end of the war...

The largest battle in the history of the galaxy and the battle that will determine the future of Pegasus is about to begin…

Fleets involved

Wraith

211 hives
298 predators
350 cruisers
200,000 darts

Alliance

Fleet 1 :

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-12 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-8 Henry arnolds cruiser
-6 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-3 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-12 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 536 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-10 serpents
-6 deadali's
-4 Aegis class carriers
-12 Henry arnolds cruiser
-10 unity destroyer
-10 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-10 Alkesh bombers
-1000 F-302's
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 2:

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
-7 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-2 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 500 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 8 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-10 Henry arnolds cruiser
-14 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-6 deadalus class battlecarrier
-6 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 1000 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 3:

Titan + Hercules + Scimitar combined forces

- 15 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-20 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 deadalus class battlecarrier
-20 Alkesh bombers
-6 columbia class assault carrier
-A combined airwing of 1200 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Asgard: (On route at the beginning of the battle)

-11 Asgard oneills
-Valhalla


Wraith System – Kratus

Planets + Defenses

Kratus IV:

Large baron planet, no life but supports a huge mining operation and 3 shipyards…

Defenses
- Wraith orbital mining station
- 44 wraith orbital defense canons
- 3 standard wraith shipyards



Kratus III:

Small moon orbiting Kratus 4 with approximately 200 thousand wraith, lightly defended with light planetary defenses…

Defenses
- 2 ship yards
- 13 wraith orbital defense canons
- 17 planetary defense canons


Kratus II:

Medium sized planet with approximately 5 million wraith, heavily defended with planetary defense canons and orbital defense canons it also has a wraith super station in orbit…

Defenses
- Wraith Super station with 5 additional ship yards
- 56 wraith orbital defense canons
- 38 planetary defense canons



Kratus I:

Large sized planet with approximately 3 billion wraith, most heavily defended world outside the home system

Defenses
- 2 Super stations and 13 additional shipyards
- 76 wraith orbital defense canons
- 98 planetary defense canons



The Battle

The alliance fleet drew closer and closer to their target, each captain knew the stakes and that this battle could very well be their last. As the captain of the Cerberus looked out across the bridge and at his crew he knew that they wouldn’t fail him they’d been in dozens of battles together and this would not be the last…

The fleet was broken into 3 smaller battle groups for a three pronged attack on the system with each group targeting a specific planet in their numbers the wraith were unbeatable but if they were separated the alliance may have a chance…

The captains also knew that the Wraith had noticed the fleet build ups and had amassed a third of their fleet to meet them, an Asgard contingent was on it’s way but the fleet could not wait the wraith fleet assembled could decimate dozens of systems they had to strike before the fleet could move out…

Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus II…

The fleets dropped out of hyperspace above their designated targets but were immediately hit with a hail of gun fire from the orbital defenses several ships succumbed instantly to the fire and were destroyed…

The Phoenix battle fleet targeted Kratus II and opened fire on the orbital defense stations but the fire was easily repelled but their nigh impenetrable shields, the captain of the Leviathon noticed that the orbital defenses were tied into the Superstation and ordered all ships to target the station but with the wraith defense fleet baring down on them getting close enough to the station was more than difficult…

The only chance they had was launch all fighters and bombers and hope that the pilot's skills would be enough to break through the Wraith lines, the fighters flew towards the Superstation but thousands of darts swarmed fourth from the Superstation and the planets surface ripping the alliance fighter squadrons to shreds. The captain of the Leviathon knew that the odds were against them and in daring move signaled part of the fleet to move in flanked by the Oneills and several destroyers the Leviathon pounded into the wraith lines and cut a sway through their fleet. The orbital canons switched their focus to the larger tauri ships, half the attacking fleet was annihilated almost instantly but the remaining fleet managed to enter range and blast a hole in the incoming dart screen giving the brave pilots of the alliance time to break through and fire their payload…

All at once 100’s of the most powerful tauri nukes were launched most of them heading towards the planet, the planetary defense canons fired in burst mode spraying the area with energy bolts destroying most of the incoming nukes but not enough, several multi-gigaton nukes struck the planet wiping out millions of wraith and destroying much of the wraith infastructure…

Nearly a dozen nukes struck the Superstation causing catastrophic damage but the station was built to be resilient and survived the attack with many systems undamaged the orbital canons remained operational and the Superstation’s weapons hammed the incoming Alliance fleet. The Leviathon and 2 Oneills were the only ships now within range of the Superstation the rest of the fleet was fighting a losing battle against the orbital canons, all seemed lost until one of the Oneills discovered a weakness in the armor above the station stabilizers which were keeping the station in orbit, the Leviathon reacted immediately opening fire on the weak spot the Oneills were soon to follow. The Superstation continued to fire and one of the Oneills succumbed to the barrage but it was too late the stabilizers exploded from the pressure causing the station to lose power and come hurtling towards the planet, the remaining defense canons concentrated their fire in vain trying to stop the Stations descent but the station was too resilient and it struck the planet. The exploding generators destroyed the remaining infrastructure and without the Superstation supplying power the orbital canons powered down…

The remaining wraith defense fell back to Kratus I and the phoenix battle fleet began preparation for the final assault…


Surviving ships Alliance…

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-8 Serpent battlecruisers
-1 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-2 unity destroyer
-4 tegelus gunship
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-2 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 211 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-6 serpents
-3 deadali's
-3 Aegis class carriers
-9 Henry arnolds cruiser
-5 unity destroyer
-7 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-300 F-302's
- 1 Oneills

what do you think??? this only the first part there will be 2 more...

[NoDot]

Does anyone here have a copy of the specs for all the Earth (standardized), Asgard, Wraith, and Reaver ships? (Did immhotep ever release the standardized specs for the Earth ships?)

[edit] While I'm here, remember that the Triumverent's origin is only speculatory? Here's the full version:

The true history of the Triumverent is an unknown to most of the races and civilizations to whom they are allied. However, they are one of the oldest, yet most secretive races native to the Pegasus galaxy. Born soon after the Ancients came to Pegasus, the Triumverent hid their true knowledge and power from the Ancients, though the Ancients frequently demonstrated their own power. The Triumverent, however, demonstrated only the ability to conquer and populate a few nearby worlds.

After the Ancient/Wraith war started, the Triumverent went into overdirve with their planetary evacuations, trying to quickly evacuate their populations to their secondary locations. The Wraith, who investigated the near-deserted worlds, were slowly drawn into a land battle and quickly dispatched. The warriers, however, were killed in the planetary bombardments following. This is the only assisstance the Triumverent offered the Ancients during the war.

After the Ancients evacuated and the Wraith began hybernating, the Triumverent consolidated their forces and began rebuilding and making plans to attack the Wraith. Over the following 10,000 years, the Triumverent had periods of war with the Wraith, guerilla tactics being the primary warfare form. During these wars, and between them, the Triumverent located multiple Ancient bases left over form the war, and studied them and their databases. They were also successful in obtaining multiple Wraith Hive Ships, Crusiers, and Darts.

Those wars, however, proved disasterous for their population, even after automitizing and the invention of the Vrell. Atlantis, when they destroyed the Great Carrier, killed off over 100 people, a large blow to their population.of a mere 50,000 (approx.) before.

Their status with allies/enemies is currently as follows:
- Asurans
--- Peace
- Wraith
--- Hostile
- Reavers
--- Hostile
- Krom (see elsewhere)
--- Hostile
- Atlantis
--- Cease-Fire
- Asgard
--- Zero Aggression

[ray245]

ok...I suggest we movie this topic to another section...hopefully an art section to be included rather than jamming all this design or art related topic in science and tech.

One thing I find lacking in this topic is there is no further movement into actually creating models and spent most of the time talking about battles. It would be better if we move this into the fanfic sections. Another thing I find lacking is...rather than depending on others to actually created the models with specs, won't it be better for you guys to actually draw out some design.

We are starting to go off-topic with all the talks about battles and yet not much artwork is done. Moreover, we should start with something small, just a scene of a battle will do. We do not need to go into so much details about the entire battle unless we've gotten models. By the way, Blender is a free modelling software and is able to be downloaded on its website.

Hopefully some of you would actually try and do something yourself instead of waiting for a person to help. This way, the fleet will never come to. When art designs is ready, it can lighten the load from the modellers or animators.

A better way to describe a battle can be done using storyboard, and sketching some major scenes in the battle.

Question: Is there anyone else that could draw?

oh, and the website to download blender could be found here http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Home.2.0.html

P.S. We Really need an art section on this forum to draw in people who can show off their sketch, models or spirites. This way, it will make things easier to find people helping in this project. And I really hope you guys can listen...

[Buba uognarf]

Does anyone here have a copy of the specs for all the Earth (standardized), Asgard, Wraith, and Reaver ships? (Did immhotep ever release the standardized specs for the Earth ships?)

[edit] While I'm here, remember that the Triumverent's origin is only speculatory? Here's the full version:


I have both the Wraith and Reaper ships...

Wraith Superhive - Dreadnaught(don't use this in battles it's rarely seen)
Wraith Superhive - Tauri classification 'dreadnaught'

Specs:

Dimensions:
Length 10.4km
Width: 4.5km
Height: 1.1km

Material:
Wraith inorganic and organic superstructure with wraith bio armour etc... melded on

Power:
7 wraith hive generators(extra generators exponentially increase weapon strength and shield power)

Engines:
wraith improved hyperdrive(slightly faster)
6 massive wraith sublight engines
100's of maneuvering thrusters

Defensive weaponry:
-Non

Offensive weaponry:
62x hiveship canons(placed for full fire coverage) can pump as much firepower as 5 hives from the forward array by focusing all 20 of it's canons.
1x wraith shield dampening weapon

Defense:
1x heavy 2nd generation wraith shield generator
200m thick wraith bio armour multi layered and ablative to defend against drones and nukes(Armours design makes it almost impervious to serious damage)
-Internal shields to protect ship from taking critical damage


Fighters:
6000x darts

Other:
Standard wraith equipment

After fight the tauri for nearly 2 decades the wraith decided to invest in a single super ship one that would be able to bring down the allied walls of the Asgard and the tauri. Until now the wraith had always had the advantage but with the coming of the Asgard the wraith once again found themselves facing a foe as advanced maybe even more advanced then they...so the wraith built this the most powerful ship they had ever built with enough firepower to bring the tauri and Asgard to their knees...

This ship is one of a kind created to be the wraith high queen’s personal flagship only two have ever been built the prototype which was destroyed in Atlantis’s orbit and the flagship seen in the final waning months of the war…
Plans for this ship were kept secret, for anyone in control of this ship could challenge the queen herself…

Shield dampening Weapon:

This Weapon was designed to help bring down the shields of Atlantis this weapon takes tremendous amounts of power and the barrel is 500m long it is point and shot only and specifically designed to take down the shield on Atlantis.

When fired at a target it creates a heavy power drain amplified by the strain on the shield meaning that the time it would take to bring down the shields is decreased to 8 hours this weapon is experimental and the ships shields would be inactive during this time...


Wraith Upgraded hive
Wraith Upgraded Hive ship

~Type: Large hyperspace warship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 4.3 km

~width: 2.5km

~height: 600 meters

~Decks: 150

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 3000 (maximum capacity 5000)

~Power plant: Hiveship power generator

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive(enhanced)

6 heavy wraith thrusters

60 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

30 x wraith hive energy canons


~Defenses:
wraith 1st generation shields
Armor: 100 meter bio regenerative armour

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment

Following the rebirth of the wraith race all ships were upgraded. All ship systems have been enhanced and the introduction of shields mean that these hives can take far more punishments and with their enhanced weapons batteries the fleets of the tauri beware.


Wraith Predator culling ship/ heavy cruiser
Wraith predator culling ship(or heavy cruiser)

~Type: Large hyperspace culling warship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 2.3 km

~width: 900meters

~height: 300 meters

~Decks: 100

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 2000 (maximum capacity 4000)

~Power plant: Hiveship power generator

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive

4 heavy wraith thrusters

40 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

20 x wraith hive energy canons

1 x wraith planetary stunner capable of stunning 15km squared and able to penetrate 20m of trinium, titanium armour planting


~Defenses:
wraith 1st generation shields
Armor: 50 meter bio regenerative armour

~Other technology:

30 x small scale culling beams
1 x super culling beam able to cull an area of 10km squared and able to dematerialize solid inorganic objects(can be changed to completely disintegrate targets)

Developed to cull the large populations of the MW it's now seeing use in the war with the tauri. This ship was designed to negate the need for darts.
All the victims that are culled are instantly rematerialized into cocoons for feeding. With it's 20 hive canons it can pump out an impressive amount of firepower almost as much as a hive able to fire with 8 canons at once from any given point.

Given the new order the ship doubles as a heavy cruiser supporting the hives
And laying waste to cities with it’s disintegration beam.


Wraith Upgraded cruiser
Wraith Upgraded cruiser

~Type: hyperspace warship and escort

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 1.4 km

~width: 400km

~height: 150 meters

~Decks: 50

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 1000 (maximum capacity 2000)

~Power plant: Small scale hive power generator(pumps out 20% of the power)

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive(enhanced)

4 heavy wraith thrusters

20 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

10 x wraith hive energy canons


~Defenses:
wraith 1st generation shields
Armor: 25 meter bio regenerative armour

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment

The cruisers now serve as escorts for the larger ships in the wraith fleet normally in large numbers they usually double as canon fodder with their weaker shields but in large numbers they are dangerous.



The Reaper Ships and history

Reaper history
The Reapers – Wraith/Tauri alliance war


The Reapers are a sub species of wraith created by wraith experiments to counter act the effects of the retro virus…

The drug was designed to in effect strengthen the Iratus part of the wraith genome therefore making it resilient to the suppressing effects of the retro virus it worked but not in the way the wraith had hoped…

It caused mutations in all test subjects causing the Iratus DNA to become more prominent, the wraith exposed became violent, cannibalistic and had heightened strength. The tests were conducted in the dark space a series of systems on the edge of Pegasus chosen for the sensor nullifying effects of the anomalies in the area the test subjects broke containment and released the drug into the atmosphere mutating millions the ‘Reapers’ hijacked the ships in orbit and decimated the dark space feeding on the wraith populations, by the time the wraith fleet reacted to the threat the Reapers had dozens of ships under there command the fleets engaged in the typhon sector the battle was bloody and brutal but at the end of it the Wraith forces couldn’t defeat the Reapers although they dealt enough damage to slow their advance, the wraith fleet retreated and abandoned all planets and systems within a jump of the dark space…

The Reapers are the scourge of all life in the Pegasus galaxy they hunt both human and wraith alike in their massive Reaper hiveships even there wraith dare not enter the dark space. There has only ever been one major conflict with the Reapers but that seems set to change reports show they now have a huge fleet at their disposal they’re becoming increasingly bold as they strike further and deeper into wraith and tauri territory…


Reaper heavy hive
Wraith Reaper hiveship – heavy hive

~Type: hyperspace battleship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 6.57 km

~width: 3.68km

~height: 800 meters

~Decks: 200

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 5000(max 7000)

~Power plant
2 hive generators

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive

6 heavy wraith thrusters

80 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

45x wraith hive energy canons
2 x Reaper canons (unstable high yield energy canon)

~Defenses:

Dispersion field deflects over 90% of enemy energy weapon fire and desperses damage from nukes e.t.c...
Armor: 125 meter bio regenerative armour

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment


Reaper V-type battleship
Reaper V-type battle ship

~Type: hyperspace battleship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 3.3 km

~width: 1.8km

~height: 200 meters

~Decks: 60

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 3000(max 5000)

~Power plant
1 hive generators

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive

5 heavy wraith thrusters

60 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

25x wraith hive energy canons (20 in the forward arch)
1 x Reaper canon (unstable high yield energy canon)




~Defenses:

Dispersion field deflects over 90% of enemy energy weapon fire and desperses damage from nukes e.t.c...
Armor: 20 meter bio regenerative armor

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment


Reaper destroyer
Reaper Destroyer

~Type: Small hyperspace warship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 463m

~width: 280m

~height: 150 meters

~Decks: 40

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 700(max 900)

~Power plant
4 small wraith generators

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive

3 heavy wraith thrusters

40 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

2x wraith hive energy canons (2 in the forward arch)
1 x Forward Reaper canon (unstable high yield energy canon)




~Defenses:

Dispersion field deflects over 90% of enemy energy weapon fire and desperses damage from nukes e.t.c...
Armor: 5 meter bio regenerative armor

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment

[NoDot]

Gracias, señor(a). Éste está muy bueno, because those were the ones I needed for the first battle.

In any case, I said I'd post the Triumverent's ships. Here they are:

Missile/Fighter/BomberTriumverent Drone
Dimensions:
- Length: 50 cm
- Width: 25 cm
- Height: 25 cm
Armour:
- 3 cm Thick Organic Arour
- Metalic Alloy Skeleton
- Anti-Shield Generator
Notes:
- Can detonate for 2.3 Kilotons of nuclear force
- Anti-Shield disrupts normal shield designs: unit can pass through normal shields

Triumverent Fighter
Dimensions:
- Length: 18m
- Height: 4m
- Width: 5m
Armour:
- 4 cm Organic Armour
- 2 cm Metalic Alloy
Weapon:
- 1 Pulse Weapon
Notes:
- Remote Controlled by Launching Craft

Triumverent Bomber
Dimensions:
- Length: 30m
- Width: 20m
- Height: 10m
Defenses:
- 4 cm Organic Armour
- 2 cm Metalic Alloy
- Cloak/Shield Emmission System
Weapons
- 4 Batteries of Multiple Pulse Weapons
Notes:
- Smallest manned unit in Triumverent use

CarriersDrone Carrier
Dimensions:
- Length: 200m
- Width: 75m
- Height: 70m
Defenses:
- 1.0m Organic Armour
- 0.5m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 6 Triumverent Drone Silos
--- 500 Drones per Silo
- 40 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons

Fighter Carrier
Dimensions:
- Length: 450m
- Width: 150m
- Height: 100m
Defenses:
- 1.5m Organic Armour
- 1.0m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 4 Fighter Bays
--- 250 Fighters per Bay
- 120 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons

Bomber Carrier
Dimensions:
- Length: 750m
- Width: 330m
- Height: 170m
Defenses:
- 2.5m Organic Armour
- 1.7m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 4 Bomber Bays
--- 80 Bombers per Bay
- 240 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons

Great Carrier
Dimensions:
- Length: 900m
- Width: 450m
- Height: 350m
Defenses:
- 3.0m Organic Armour
- 1.5m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 8 Drone Silos
--- 400 Drones per Silo
- 6 Fighter Bays
--- 200 Fighters per Bay
- 4 Bomber Bays
--- 100 Bombers per Bay
- 300 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons

WarshipsTriumverent Guboat
Dimensions:
- Length: 200m
- Width: 75m
- Height: 70m
Defenses:
- 1.0m Organic Armour
- 0.5m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 48 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons
- 16 Level C Pulse Weapons

Triumverent Cruiser
Dimensions:
- Length: 440m
- Width: 140m
- Height: 90m
Defenses:
- 1.3m Organic Armour
- 0.9m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 144 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons
- 48 Level C Pulse Weapons
- 12 Level B Pulse Weapons

Triumverent Frigate
Dimensions:
- Length: 460m
- Width: 160m
- Height: 110m
Defenses:
- 1.7m Organic Armour
- 1.1m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 144 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons
- 48 Level C Pulse Weapons
- 12 Level B Pulse Weapons

Triumverent Battleship
Dimensions:
- Length: 750m
- Width: 330m
- Height: 170m
Defenses:
- 2.5m Organic Armour
- 1.7m Metalic Alloy
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 216 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons
- 72 Level C Pulse Weapons
- 40 Level B Pulse Weapons
- 20 Level A Pulse Weapons

Misc. Ships/StationsTriumverent Main Station
Dimensions:
- (Spheric)
- Diameter:
---10km excluding Protrusions
---12km including Protrusions
Defenses:
- 20m Organic Armour
- 10m Matalic Alloy
- Shield Generators
Weapons:
- 1000 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons
- 500 Level C Pulse Weapons
- 250 Level B Pulse Weapons
- 100 Level A Pulse Weapons
- Ramming
Notes:
- Only 3 Main Stations are known to exist
- There are 20 Protrusions to the surface of the sphere for the propulsion systems and the shield generators.

Triumverent Black Hole Station
Dimensions:
- Varying
Defenses:
- Varying Number of Large Shield Generators
Weapons:
- Varies on Size
- 18 Laser Weapons
Notes:
- There is one Black Hole Station in the Milky Way, found at the site of the original Ori Supergate's Black Hole

Triumverent Free-Space Shipyard Unit
Dimensions:
- Power Sphere:
--- Diameter: 5km
- Spikes:
--- (Cylindric)
--- Length: 5km
--- Diameter: 0.5km
Defenses:
- Shield Generators
Weapons:
- 400 Anti-Fighter/Bomber Pulse Weapons
- 200 Level C Pulse Weapons
- 100 Level B Pulse Weapons
- 50 Level A Pulse Weapons
Notes:
- There are four spikes protruding form the Power Sphere.
- Multiple Spikes may join together to form larger structures.

And this is going to be their first battle:Overview

For a year the sides of the Wraith-Reaver-Tau'ri/Asgard war have been unable to gain new territory for long periods of time. The sides have become entrenched, and no one seems to be able to break the current stalemate. To end this, the Reavers intend to take an asteroid field near what is considered to be Triumverent-controlled territory. They intend to take this location and make a construction yard to speed production.

However, the Wraith have noticed this, and intend to meet the Reavers there to stop them, and perhaps to take the spot for themselves. But that won't matter much, as the Tau'ri/Asgard intend to attack both of them after the battle.

And this field isn't what is seems. It's well within the actual Triumverent-controlled space, and it's currently being used to gather one of three secret attack forces which intended to strike all three of the other sides at once, forcing them out of their current stalemate. And now two attack fleets are comming their way, totaling larger than what they were originally going to fight.

One way or another, the stalemate's over. The question is, who'll be on top?

[Buba uognarf]

nice designs...ok if you're doing a battle could you please put a date so i can put it in the timeline it should be between 2027-2033,

as for the Reapers i'll tell abit about them, in ur battle they need to have HIGHLY destructive weapons! their Reaper beams cause huge damage and have shield piercing properties as well as disrupting power on hit vessels,

their weakness is that damage bleeds through their dispersion field and with the exception of the Reaper hive they have relatively weak hulls...

Reaper hives are very powerful, more powerful then any tauri vessel apart from the battle ship e.g the Leviathon class, they can also take down hive ships with ease...

V-type battleships are almost as strong as hive-ships

and the destroyers appear in huge numbers and cause lots of damage but they're destroyed very easily...

[cooky]

A four way battle, ouch. I would not want to be a part of that conflict.

I look forward to reading more about it.

Keep an eye out, I'll be relasing a new Grand Alliance era ship desing in the OSDT in the next day or two.

[NoDot]

Actually, cooky, the Earth/Asgard Alliance won't be directly taking part of this conflict.

Battle of the Asteroid Field
July 2032

OverviewFor a year the sides of the Wraith-Reaver-Tau'ri/Asgard war have been unable to gain new territory for long periods of time. The sides have become entrenched, and no one seems to be able to break the current stalemate. To end this, the Reavers intend to take an asteroid field near what is considered to be Triumverent-controlled territory. They intend to take this location and make a construction yard to speed production.

However, the Wraith have noticed this, and intend to meet the Reavers there to stop them, and perhaps to take the spot for themselves. But that won't matter much, as the Tau'ri/Asgard intend to attack both of them after the battle.

And this field isn't what is seems. It's well within the actual Triumverent-controlled space, and it's currently being used to gather one of three secret attack forces which intended to strike all three of the other sides at once, forcing them out of their current stalemate. And now two attack fleets are comming their way, totaling larger than what they were originally going to fight.

One way or another, the stalemate's over. The question is, who'll be on top?

ForcesWraith (180)
- 30 Upgraded Hives
- 50 Predators
- 100 Upgraded Cruisers
Reapers (44)
- 4 Heavy Hives
- 10 V-Type Battleships
- 30 Reaper Destroyers
Triumverent (52)
- 5 Drone Carriers
- 5 Fighter Carriers
- 5 Bomber Carriers
- 2 Great Carriers
- 10 Gunships
- 10 Frigates
- 10 Cruisers
- 5 Battleships

Act I: ArrivalEven before the battle, the asteriod field was abuzz with activity. The Triumverent forces scrambled their bombers with cloaks and hide in large craters on asteroids.

The Wraith ships arrived first, and they immediately took up positions inside the asteroid field. They knew their numbers would be their only advantage here.

The Reaver forces arrived and glided silently into the field, scanning any orbits for patterns that would make a good spot for a base.

The Wraith forces then emerged from hiding, surrounding the Reaver ships easily, and opened fire.

Act II: The Battle BeginsThe Wraith ships opened fire on the unsuspecting Reaver forces. Ten Destroyers, Two V-Types, and a Reaper Hive were destroyed in the wave of fire. Then Reaper dispersion Fields came online and started to deflect the enemy's attacks.

The two battling forces formed a simple Sphere of Battle (a Line of Battle, only a sphere). Any Wraith ship which dipped too far from the sphere was quickly dispatched from the emense firepower of the Reaver ships "below." The Reavers, however, sacrificed a number of Destroyers in sacrificial stabs at the Wraith's sphere. A Heavy Hive and two V-Types also tried to muscle their way through the Wraith's sphere, and were only destroyed by a lucky shot by a Wraith ship at the Heavy Hive's engines, causing it to smash into an asteroid. Several other asteroids were accidentally destroyed in the battle, destroying multiple Triumverent ships which were hiding.

Total ships destroyed:
- 20 Upgraded Hives, 40 Predators, and 70 Upgraded Cruisers;
- two Heavy Hives, six V-Types, and 20 Destroyers (none left);
- and 60 Bombers, four Bomber Carriers, two Frigates, three Cruisers, and a Battleship.

Act III: EmergenceRemaining Forces:
- Wraith (40)
--- 10 Upgraded Hives
--- 10 Predators
--- 30 Upgraded Cruisers
- Reaver (3)
--- 1 Heavy Hive
--- 2 V-Types
- Triumverent (42)
--- 5 Drone Carriers
--- 5 Fighter Carriers
--- 1 Bomber Carriers
--- 2 Great Carriers
--- 10 Gunships
--- 8 Frigates
--- 7Cruisers
--- 4 Battleships

The remaining Reaver forces knew they wouldn't last long at the hands of the Wraith ships they had yet to destroy. Firepower could only get you so far, and they didn't have enough to carry them through.

It was that moment, almost the climax of the Wraith's victory, when the Triumverent forces emerged form hiding. Their ships quickly formed a third sphere around the Wraith forces, trapping their enemies. The Reaver forces decided to take that moment to try to run. They pulled close together, and tried to ram their way through the enemy formations, succeeding in killing four Hives, 10 Predators, and 20 Cruisers in the confusion. They almost succeeded in making it out, but the combined firepower of both the Wraith forces they passed and the Triumverent forced they were approaching were too much. The Reavers came expecting no resistance, and found more than they could handle.

With the last of the Reaver ships destroyed, the Wraith found themselves in a similar position as the enemy they had just fought. Outnumbered and outgunned, the Wraith forces were helpless. Upgraded Cruisers were quickly destroyed at the hands of the Triumverent's powerful Drones, while the Upgraded Hives contended with the Warships firing at them. The Wraith forces had no time for any strategies or formations. The only thing they could do was die.

Remaining Forces:
- Wraith
--- Destroyed
- Reavers
--- Destroyed
- Triumverent (11)
--- 2 Drone Carriers
--- 1 Fighter Carriers
--- 1 Great Carriers
--- 4 Frigates
--- 2 Cruisers
--- 1 Battleships

AftermathMilitarily, the battle was a complete victory for the Triumverent, and boded very well for the Earth/Asgard Alliance. Tau'ri/Asgard forces took advantage of the situation and overran most of the Reaver and Wraith lines. The stalemate was over!

In Triumverent secrecy, the battle was a complete disaster. No one would believe that the Triumverent forces, which numbered at about half the estimated standing space armada, were there in hiding for no reason. The match only caused people to completely re-estimate the Triumverent's likely standing armada, landing still far off, but uncomfortably close to the actual count.

[Buba uognarf]

it's very good NoDot but there's one thing i disagree with...

losing that many ships wouldn't be such a big deal for the Wraith and Reapers they have like 3000 ships overall accross the galaxy, thats the only thing though the aftermath other than that it's excellent...

[NoDot]

I must be a busy little bee compared to you people. Here's the Triumverent's second battle.

Battle of P2X-559
Sept. 2028

PreludeThe Battle of P2X-559 between the Wraith and the Triumverent arose through the hope, on the part of the Wraith, that the Triumverent could be swayed quickly into entering the Wraith-Reaver-Tau'ri/Asgard War. The war had raged for only a year, yet the Wraith forces had lost a reasonable portion of their forces between their two enemies, primarily the Reavers. The Wraith, as a result, were feeling a bit desperate, hoping the Triumverent could be persudaded into entering the war.

To this end, they planned an assault against a Triumverent-controlled bare planet of small strategic value, and thus minimally protected. They gathered forces form what they believed to be spots where they were most unnecessry.

The planet, however, was one of the Triumverent's closest-kept secrets. The planet itself was almost completely hollowed out, making room for the internal tunnels that housed the civilian infrastructure. The planet, once a small goldmine of resources, was at the time a large goldmind of high-tech research. Any Triumverent scientist who was hoping to become famous was heading there. To help facilitate the image, the planet was lightly defended, though a larger force was hidden inside the nearby gas cloud, hidden from sensors.

Now, the Triumverent's key planet for Scientific Research and Develoment is under attack. Will they lose the planet, or will they be able to defend it?
I'll finish typing it up and post the rest of it soon, hopefully.

[immhotep]

Looking forward to that battle Nodot, in fact the Triumverent's are adding an extra dimension to things. I personally think the Gw fleet has become one of the best unending fanfics there is, its really sweet; an alternative to the many character based fanfiction's out there, one of races and fighting and a tribute to everyone in the section i believe.
I actually am unsure where this belongs now, its grown so well and just evolved in to a whole new universe that it could be fanfic, roleplaying or science and tech...
I would love it if the Gw could get a folder within the GW RPG section, even though its not connected it probley belongs there because it is a role playing game that is just different from usual, especially with the battle groups element emerging.

Sorry i havent been around this weekend i had to go away for a break, but i missed some good 'gaming' (should i use these terms or not :ford:), once i get back in to the swing of things i'll post wave 3 of the "ambitions & failures part 1". But the krattus campaign and the researcher's colony siege look set to trump it in thier next installment :)

Looking forward to what comes next;
immhotep

P.S. do we need all the standardised spec for all the earth/reaper/wraith/Triumverent's and asgard fleets in one place? because that could strech GW bandwidth :D

[NoDot]

Thank you, immhotep! I was wondering where you'd run off to. Weren't you going to standardize the specs for the Earth ships?

In any case:
Battle of P2X-559
Sept. 2028

PreludeThe Battle of P2X-559 between the Wraith and the Triumverent arose through the hope, on the part of the Wraith, that the Triumverent could be swayed quickly into entering the Wraith-Reaver-Tau'ri/Asgard War. The war had raged for only a year, yet the Wraith forces had lost a reasonable portion of their forces between their two enemies, primarily the Reavers. The Wraith, as a result, were feeling a bit desperate, hoping the Triumverent could be persudaded into entering the war.

To this end, they planned an assault against a Triumverent-controlled bare planet of small strategic value, and thus minimally protected. They gathered forces form what they believed to be spots where they were most unnecessry.

The planet, however, was one of the Triumverent's closest-kept secrets. The planet itself was almost completely hollowed out, making room for the internal tunnels that housed the civilian infrastructure. The planet, once a small goldmine of resources, was at the time a large goldmind of high-tech research. Any Triumverent scientist who was hoping to become famous was heading there. To help facilitate the image, the planet was lightly defended, though a larger force was hidden inside the nearby gas cloud, hidden from sensors.

Now, the Triumverent's key planet for Scientific Research and Develoment is under attack. Will they lose the planet, or will they be able to defend it?

ForcesWraith (80)
- 10 Upgraded Hives
- 20 Predators
- 50 Upgraded Cruisers
Triumverent Local Defense (8)
- 1 Drone Carrier
- 2 Fighter Carriers
- 3 Gunboats
- 1 Frigate
- 1 Cruiser
Triumverent Hidden Defense (15)
- 2 Drone Carriers
- 3 Fighter Carriers
- 1 Bomber Carrier
- 5 Gunboats
- 2 Frigates
- 3 Cruisers

Act I: ArrivalAs soon as the Wraith ships were detected to be on their way, the planet seemed to come to life immediately. Scientists quickly packed their things, hoping they could escape and avoid the battle. But there was no way to leave. The sudden arrival of large numbers of population ships could tip an enemy off to what they were actually doing there.

The Wraith forces dropped out of hyperspace right on time, but then did the unexpected. They quickly divided up into five groups composed of two Hives, four Predators, and ten Cruisers each. They approached the planet in a spear formation.

Act II: LosesThe Wraith forces approached in a dulled-spear formation, Hives at the rear of each of the five battle groups. The Triumverent forces had established themselves into a simple wall. With their small sizes, however, they were easily dwarfed by the multi-kilometer juggernaughts comming their way.

And with their size, the Wraith ships quickly used the dulled-spear formations to surround the Triumverent forces, but not before the tiny, manuverable Drone Carrier had managed to plow through an entire group and half-destroy two others before it was destroyed. The Fighter Carriers also managed to sucessfully annoy the two other groups while the Gunboats, Cruiser, and Frigate caused heavy damage.

Total ships destroyed:
- 4 Upgraded Hives, 12 Predators, and 20 Upgraded Cruisers;
- and 1 Drone Carrier, 2 Fighter Carriers, 3 Gunboats, 1 Firgate, and 1 Cruiser (all Triumverent Local Defense Force ships).

Act III: GainsRemaining Forces:
- Wraith (44)
--- 6 Upgraded Hives
--- 8 Predators
--- 30 Upgraded Cruisers
- Triumverent Hidden Defense (15)
--- 2 Drone Carriers
--- 3 Fighter Carriers
--- 1 Bomber Carrier
--- 5 Gunboats
--- 2 Frigates
--- 3 Cruisers

With an entire group destroyed and two more half-destroyed by the Drone Carrier and the remaining two having sustained heavy shield damage by the remaining forces, the Wraith turned their attention to the planet itself, planning likely on making the planet into a shipyard. What they didn't notice was the 320 cloaked Bombers emerging from the nearby gas cloud and taking up positions near their hulls.

The hidden Triumverent Defnese Force then decided to emerge from the gas cloud, surprising the Wraith forces. The Bombers took that oppertunity to fire massive barrages at the Wraith ships's hulls, disabling weapons, shields, engines, and hyperdrives. They then made bee lines for their carrier while the warships made quick work of the disabled Wraith ships.

Remaining Forces:
- Wraith
--- Destroyed
- Triumverent Local Defense
--- Destroyed
- Triumverent Hidden Defense (15)
--- 2 Drone Carriers
--- 3 Fighter Carriers
--- 1 Bomber Carrier
--- 5 Gunboats
--- 2 Frigates
--- 3 Cruisers

AftermathThe Triumverent is occasionally known for multiple levels of secrecy, but a secret defense force for a bare planet? Not likely. The Battle of P2X-559 only proved that the planet had strategic significance to the Triumverent, enough to station a hidden defense force within the nearby gas cloud.

For the Wraith, they soon learned what value those ships they sent had in their previous spot: stopping piratic assaults by the enemy! As a result, the first ships to pass through the area were soon ambushed by the Tau'ri/Asgard and destroyed quickly. The destroyed ships were quickly replaced, but the piratical assault left the construction yards without resources for quite a while, grinding all production to a halt.

[immhotep]

I liked it, it was simple but elegent, it wasnt a massive battle but i was hoping for a few small scale battles that didnt involve us too much. Have this dynamic where we have 5 races that are all at different levels is really cool, the Triumverent and the asgard seem pretty level, the reapers and tauri are pretty similar and then theres the wraith who have only got numbers to keep them alive right now; even with unlimited food, a technolgoical Renaissance and a new way of live they are still underdogs...i like it alot..

Nodot, i was going to standardise the fleet yes, but i got really busy and didnt get around too it, however if there is a real need to have all the ship in one spot with all the technology standard then i will start on it. is there such a need?
Personally i dont think we actually need the spec's too much at this point, we know 90% the capabilities of the ships and what they should be used for, specifics in the actual battles just slows the reading. i was interested in the specs, always have been but the role playing has become the coolest part of this thread...

[cooky]

Nice work NoDot. Only thing you might change is the planet designation. All the planets in Pegasus have a designation begining with M. The P designation is for Milky Way planets.

[Buba uognarf]

nice battle NoDot...

i don't see how the wraith are the underdogs???? currently in atlantis a hive ship is easily a match for a deadalus, and while our new ships even it out the upgraded hives are still a match for any tauri ship (apart from the strongest ones) we rely on versatility...

the wraith numbers makes the war an uphill struggle, they beat the ancients u think they're gonna be the underdogs fighting us???

sorry but i just don't like it when the wraith are underestimated...

anyway if ur lucky part 2 of my battle will be ready in a few hours

[immhotep]

just adds to the fun, percieving someone as weak is a weakness in itself...look at the goauld's viw on us for a perfect example..
No the wraith are not underdogs to start off with, right now and up to the year of say 2030 the wraith have very good position in the galaxy. But as the reapers and triumveret move in, with similar based but superior weapons and tactics they are begining to lose ground. Add to this the 3 decade long war with us and they are eventually going to grind down to the point where they lose..just like the ancients lost.

[Buba uognarf]

just adds to the fun, percieving someone as weak is a weakness in itself...look at the goauld's viw on us for a perfect example..
No the wraith are not underdogs to start off with, right now and up to the year of say 2030 the wraith have very good position in the galaxy. But as the reapers and triumveret move in, with similar based but superior weapons and tactics they are begining to lose ground. Add to this the 3 decade long war with us and they are eventually going to grind down to the point where they lose..just like the ancients lost.

i completely agree, the Reapers effectivly break the wraiths power in the galaxy...the Triumverent are powerful but they don'r realy have the numbers to take on the wraith in all out war so it's good to see a different approach to fighting the wraith...

this is my battle...part 1 an 2...in two posts

One small step for man…-Wraith vs Alliance battle -24 august 2029

premise
After losing ground during the Superhive incident the alliance has been struggling to regain lost ground and the constant wraith offensive is slowly wearing us down. Troop moral is low and Alliance command has made a decision that has shocked the ranks it's all or nothing the largest battle of the war is set to take place, to have any hope of winning this war the wraith forces in the Kratus systems must been destroyed and them driven from our territory...

Victory would mean hope and force the wraith to fall back to their own space but defeat would mean the end of the war...

The largest battle in the history of the galaxy and the battle that will determine the future of Pegasus is about to begin…

Fleets involved

Wraith

211 hives
298 predators
350 cruisers
200,000 darts

Alliance

Fleet 1 :

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-12 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-8 Henry arnolds cruiser
-6 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-3 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-12 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 536 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-10 serpents
-6 deadali's
-4 Aegis class carriers
-12 Henry arnolds cruiser
-10 unity destroyer
-10 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-10 Alkesh bombers
-1000 F-302's
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 2:

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
-7 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-2 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 500 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 8 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-10 Henry arnolds cruiser
-14 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-6 deadalus class battlecarrier
-6 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 1000 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 3:

Titan + Hercules + Scimitar combined forces

- 15 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-20 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 deadalus class battlecarrier
-20 Alkesh bombers
-6 columbia class assault carrier
-A combined airwing of 1200 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Asgard: (On route at the beginning of the battle)

-11 Asgard oneills
-Valhalla


Wraith System – Kratus

Planets + Defenses

Kratus IV:

Large baron planet, no life but supports a huge mining operation and 3 shipyards…

Defenses
- Wraith orbital mining station
- 44 wraith orbital defense canons
- 3 standard wraith shipyards



Kratus III:

Small moon orbiting Kratus 4 with approximately 200 thousand wraith, lightly defended with light planetary defenses…

Defenses
- 2 ship yards
- 13 wraith orbital defense canons
- 17 planetary defense canons


Kratus II:

Medium sized planet with approximately 5 million wraith, heavily defended with planetary defense canons and orbital defense canons it also has a wraith super station in orbit…

Defenses
- Wraith Super station with 5 additional ship yards
- 56 wraith orbital defense canons
- 38 planetary defense canons



Kratus I:

Large sized planet with approximately 3 billion wraith, most heavily defended world outside the home system

Defenses
- 2 Super stations and 13 additional shipyards
- 76 wraith orbital defense canons
- 98 planetary defense canons



The Battle

The alliance fleet drew closer and closer to their target, each captain knew the stakes and that this battle could very well be their last. As the captain of the Cerberus looked out across the bridge and at his crew he knew that they wouldn’t fail him they’d been in dozens of battles together and this would not be the last…

The fleet was broken into 3 smaller battle groups for a three pronged attack on the system with each group targeting a specific planet in their numbers the wraith were unbeatable but if they were separated the alliance may have a chance…

The captains also knew that the Wraith had noticed the fleet build ups and had amassed a third of their fleet to meet them, an Asgard contingent was on it’s way but the fleet could not wait the wraith fleet assembled could decimate dozens of systems they had to strike before the fleet could move out…

Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus II…

The fleets dropped out of hyperspace above their designated targets but were immediately hit with a hail of gun fire from the orbital defenses several ships succumbed instantly to the fire and were destroyed…

The Phoenix battle fleet targeted Kratus II and opened fire on the orbital defense stations but the fire was easily repelled but their nigh impenetrable shields, the captain of the Leviathon noticed that the orbital defenses were tied into the Superstation and ordered all ships to target the station but with the wraith defense fleet baring down on them getting close enough to the station was more than difficult…

The only chance they had was launch all fighters and bombers and hope that the pilot's skills would be enough to break through the Wraith lines, the fighters flew towards the Superstation but thousands of darts swarmed fourth from the Superstation and the planets surface ripping the alliance fighter squadrons to shreds. The captain of the Leviathon knew that the odds were against them and in daring move signaled part of the fleet to move in flanked by the Oneills and several destroyers the Leviathon pounded into the wraith lines and cut a sway through their fleet. The orbital canons switched their focus to the larger tauri ships, half the attacking fleet was annihilated almost instantly but the remaining fleet managed to enter range and blast a hole in the incoming dart screen giving the brave pilots of the alliance time to break through and fire their payload…

All at once 100’s of the most powerful tauri nukes were launched most of them heading towards the planet, the planetary defense canons fired in burst mode spraying the area with energy bolts destroying most of the incoming nukes but not enough, several multi-gigaton nukes struck the planet wiping out millions of wraith and destroying much of the wraith infastructure…

Nearly a dozen nukes struck the Superstation causing catastrophic damage but the station was built to be resilient and survived the attack with many systems undamaged the orbital canons remained operational and the Superstation’s weapons hammed the incoming Alliance fleet. The Leviathon and 2 Oneills were the only ships now within range of the Superstation the rest of the fleet was fighting a losing battle against the orbital canons, all seemed lost until one of the Oneills discovered a weakness in the armor above the station stabilizers which were keeping the station in orbit, the Leviathon reacted immediately opening fire on the weak spot the Oneills were soon to follow. The Superstation continued to fire and one of the Oneills succumbed to the barrage but it was too late the stabilizers exploded from the pressure causing the station to lose power and come hurtling towards the planet, the remaining defense canons concentrated their fire in vain trying to stop the Stations descent but the station was too resilient and it struck the planet. The exploding generators destroyed the remaining infrastructure and without the Superstation supplying power the orbital canons powered down…

The remaining wraith defense fell back to Kratus I and the phoenix battle fleet began preparation for the final assault…


Surviving ships Alliance…

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-8 Serpent battlecruisers
-1 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-2 unity destroyer
-4 tegelus gunship
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-2 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 211 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-6 serpents
-3 deadali's
-3 Aegis class carriers
-9 Henry arnolds cruiser
-5 unity destroyer
-7 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-300 F-302's
- 1 Oneills

[Buba uognarf]

part 2...3 is coming soon...

Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus IV-III…
Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus IV-III…The Cerberus dropped out of hyperspace leading the Hades battle fleet and immediately began evasive maneuvers to dodge the hail of gunfire, together with 3 gunship wings and the Oneills they moved to intercept the wraith fleet defending Kratus IV and III, the enemy fleet was small only 20 hives and 31 predators but it had the orbital defenses for fire support and the alliance was talking heavy casualties…

The smaller alliance ships ran circles around the wraith fleet but were unable to damage the orbital defenses. The power was being transferred from the mining station which was lightly defended, the captain of the Cerberus ordered the bulk of the fleet forward. Under the immense firepower of the Hades battle fleet the wraith forces were forced to retreat back to the main planet. The fleet stormed through the orbital defenses and blew the mining station to hell though several alliance ships were destroyed and crippled during the battle. The orbital defenses were quickly dispatched without their shields and the Hades battle fleet prepared to lay waste to Kratus IV but wraith reinforcements had already arrived and taken positions in orbital, with an iron determination the Cerberus’s captain ordered the final push…

The wraith reinforcements had arrived putting a wall of 50 hives between the Hades fleet and their goal. The fleet commanders knew that a head on confrontation with those hives and the orbital defense would result in heavy casualties, there was also another problem the orbital defenses were tied into a grid with all three of the ship yards and the mining station meaning disabling them would be near impossible…

Together the fleet commanders decided on a plan, it would rely on the legendary air wings of the Hades battle fleet. While the main fleet distracted the wraith forces the fighters would attack the wraith shipyards and fighters head on while half the bombers concentrated their fire on a mining station, when the station is destroyed the remaining bombers will detonate their payloads in between the orbital canons wiping them all out in 3 seconds it takes for the power link to establish with another shipyard…

The fleet moved out its target the wraith fleet. The wraith held their position and opened fire on the Hades battle fleet which took heavy damage. As the fleet entered range the captains gave the order to fire and launched a counter attack with tore into the wraith lines. The fleet continued to push forward despite taking horrendous damage from both the wraith fleet and the orbital canons, with a mighty crash the Hades fleet collided with the wraith Armanda the smaller tauri vessels out maneuvering the hives and their escorts. The wraith fleet took the bait and moved out of position to confront the tauri fleet head on, this is what the alliance had been waiting for the captain of the Cerberus gave the order…”launch the dagger” and the doors of hell opened and the fighters of the Hades battle fleet began the attack. The fighters and bombers flew into the heart of the battle dodging the fire they raced towards the target, but they had been detected and 9000 darts moved to intercept. The fighter group broke up into smaller squadrons with half the fighter wing engaging the stations and the other half providing cover fire for the bombers…

The battle against the wraith fleet was fierce although they had distracted the fleet long enough for the fighters to get through they were still within arms reach of the orbital canons and taking a beating victory hinged on the fighters…

The fighters fought an intense battle against the darts but the bombers were nearly in range, the bombers were ready for the final push but 3000 darts stood in their way and with only 200 fighters available for support it looked as though it was over. The fighters prepared for a suicidal attack when out of nowhere the Cerberus appeared and fired a volley from its energy canon decimating the dart squadrons allowing the alliance fighters to gain the upper hand and blast their way through. With the path clear the bombers fired their payloads annihilating the mining station, the rest of fighters needed no invitation and fired their nukes before evacuating the area. The nukes detonated simultaneously wiping out all the defense canons though many fighters were also lost in the blast…

The rest of the fleet pressed their advantage and drove the wraith back destroying their shipyards…

They didn’t have time to celebrate however as the Titan, Hercules and Scimitar forces had been devastated by the wraith and were in great need of assistance…


Surviving ships alliance

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 1 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-3 Henry arnolds cruiser
-13 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-A combined airwing of 234 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 6 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-7 Henry arnolds cruiser
-11 unity destroyer
-5 tegelus gunship
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-4 deadalus class battlecarrier
-A combined airwing of 278 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 2 Oneills

wat does everybody think???

[immhotep]

I really like the battle, the fighter/ bomber attack is realyl cool. Btw what are the bombers? which ship? Henry arnolds, unity's or tegelus's?

[cooky]

I think he means the f/b-307. f/b stands for fighter/bomber.

Great job on the battle.

[Buba uognarf]

I think he means the f/b-307. f/b stands for fighter/bomber.

Great job on the battle.

yeah thats what i meant, thanks for the kind words...

the next part will be the battle against the bulk of the wraith forces where we get a butt kicking but when the asgard arrive we manage to push them back to kratus one for the final chapter...

[immhotep]

cool that sounds like its going to be an awesome fight, this is a huge battle, i mean epic. There are about 300 of our ships fighting + fighters which number about 1500..thats huge! so far the pheonix group and the hades group have had a battle each, theyve each taken a planet and taken out a fleet of hives each. So when they link up and combine forces, im geussing that will be the final chapter right?

[Buba uognarf]

cool that sounds like its going to be an awesome fight, this is a huge battle, i mean epic. There are about 300 of our ships fighting + fighters which number about 1500..thats huge! so far the pheonix group and the hades group have had a battle each, theyve each taken a planet and taken out a fleet of hives each. So when they link up and combine forces, im geussing that will be the final chapter right?

well they've taken out about 70-80 hives together + escorts so the wraith still have an almost overwhelmingly large fleet, the phoenix and hades fleets have destroyed 3 of the wraith outposts but the third fleet meanwhile has been decimated...

in the third part the hades and phoneix fleets unite and take on the wraith armarda (later with the asgards help) and after an intense battle the Cerberus and Leviathon lead the remaining forces against kratus I the mostly heavily defended planet outside the wraith home system for the final part

[NoDot]

I'm not sure if you guys are gonna want this one, because I might be blowing your plans out of the water...

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[immhotep]

Erm i like the battle but i think its really sudden, and well actually quite cool. i can see that the Earth forces decide they can now clean up on the wraith and reavers, given the damage being dealt by thier other enemy. But they fear the triumverent because of their ability to whip up a massive fleet from Nowhere. The human and Asgard have barely 1000 capital shipsanywhere ( minus fighters) so they are well outnumbered. But they are still a major player, this could be the next phase in the history of the galaxy, the reawaking of another enemy of the ancients maybe. This is actually really cool.

[WTFOwned]

May add I add another ship to the fleet?

It's called the UNSC Asis
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/gruntmaps/Asis.png
Armaments include 10 railguns (still need to add them) and multiple missile pods for various uses (cough*nukes*cough)
It can carry one Draco (already in the fleet, now it has a place to dock), multiple fighters of various kinds, and is still rather small.


EDIT:
You know what? Give me my own 'fleet' so to speak, like a second Earth-based fleet.
I can build all the ships I need. The name'll be UNSC, which is United Nations Space Corps.

EDIT:
Oh yeah, and how far are we with actually getting a CG version of one of these battles together?
In my opinion, we should have a massive CG battle with all sorts of visual effects (don't ask me to help with the rendering, my PC sucks). It can include everyone from every side in an all out battle. In fact, I'll read through this and write it out as I think it should be, but if you want to add to it the only thing I want to write it is the UNSC's part in the battle.

[immhotep]

Im sorry WTFownded but the fleet is something that has kinda moved on from the ship design and placement stage. The ships in the fleet are already the best that are on GW past and present so adding new ships doesnt seem very smart, also the fleet is based in the PG, not earth so the UN wouldnt really have a fleet.
Also your ship isnt exactly a thurough design, elaborate on it way more if you want to be in the fleet, most of the designs are large and detailed with backstories to the political arrival, uses, strategy that works well, and have been anaylised in that level by most of us. "10 rail guns, some fighters and nukes" thats what i see there and to be frank, i could do that in 2.5 seconds...no offence.

As to the CG models, the plan is to get them done but we just dont have the people who can do it, so while CG battles would be great there noone around to do them..

[Buba uognarf]

immhotep when are you planning on posting the third wave of your battle?

[immhotep]

hmm i geuss i could do it now, im pretty bored, give me an hour and ill have something :)

[Buba uognarf]

alright...cool

[ZakeD]

I love reading the battles in this thread. :jack:

[immhotep]

This is going to be a finale of the battle, it going to be longer than usual too and the results, well right now im winging it so well see :D Enjoy


Ambitions and failures - third wave
"This is it boys, the big show is about to start, man all rail guns, arm missile batteries, full speed ahead"
The commander of the Leviathon's voice echoes through the halls of every ship in the pheonix battlegroup, this was the largest battle that had been fought by them and they knew the odds were against them.

~~~~ 3hours earlier ~~~~

Prelude
The opposition was painfully aware of just how muc they could kick our asses at this moment, the wraith were positioned perfectly to present us with a tough tactical situation, if we fought them we would have to choose between the city or the Asgard and the population of the city. Both were vital strategic markers.


Forces
Human:
-The Leviathon battleship
-15 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-8 Henry arnolds cruiser
-6 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-5 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-12 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 180 F-302a's
-6 oniel's
-The valhalla

Wraith:
56 hives (the old kind, unshielded)
1 superhive


The update:
The Pheonix battlegroup was near the edge of the system when it arrived from hyperspace, awaiting them was a fleet of 56 hive ships split between two important features in the Pegasus galaxy. New london and Valhalla, both of these cities were important and defending them become a daily routine but this was different. with both of them under siege our forces were both outnumbered and divided.
"Major, contact the valhalla, we need to know whats going on, now." ordered Command Richardson
"yes sir"
- Freya appears holographically moments later-
"Freya, hello, our sensors indicate that the city has no life signs, i fear we aretoo late?"
"Commander the city of new london was evacuated many hours ago and it population placed in status within our beaming array's, they are safe there, our ship is full of the Asgard population, we have no room to accomodate humans as well."
"Can you take them to earth?"
"We cannot, our beaming technology is not designed to facilitate the long term storage of human population, while it can be used to store them tempererroly they would not survive the long jounrney to Earth with the numbers currently stored in our memories banks"
"I see, Can the Valhalla's shield defend against a hive fleet of this size?"
"Yes, the shields of our capital, as you are aware are stronger than those of atlantis and can survive many hours of continuous attack by a fleet of this size. However our weapon systems are not able to defeat all of the hives, we need your ships to defend the city of New london and defeat the hives stationed in orbit as soon as possible. Our ship was never designed to be a fortress but it can be considered a stronghold and we can defend it well in our current possition. It is the fate of the humans stored within our city that concerns us, you must ensure the protection and survival of the city of new London so that the population may return home quickly. The Asgard have a fleet of warships on it way, 15 oniels will be here soon to defend the capital but new london will fall in a short space of time indeed, you must hurry. Good luck."



Opperation Castle Gaurd - Planning
The city of New london currently is powered by 9 Large scale Naquadah reactor plants, the first of their kind, able to provide enough power for a city the size of LA or Newyork for hundreds of years. The city doesnt currently have a shield because atlantis has the only known the city sized shields and the technology is way beyond retrofitting.
The Pheonix's squadren however want to change that, because of freya they know that all they have to do is wait until the asgard's warship's arrive, which are more than capable of dealing with the hive ships, the Oniels can take on 5 hive ships each and valhalla is essentially the most powerfull ship in the known universe after atlantis, even if the Asgard refuse to accept it. The plan is to use the leviathon's shield generators in conjunction with the cities power grid and the ships own Asgard generator to create a shield that covers the entire city. doing so will protect everything inside but it will mean that the main battleship of the human defence will be out of the field of play. leaving the serpents and deadalus classes to defend the planet with support fire from the surface from the weapons of the Levaithon if possible.


Opperation Castle Gaurd - Implementation
The leviathon ordered the aegis class carriers to H.jump to the moon where all the other fighters had gathered, once there they would refuel the fighters and move into position for an offensive against any smaller craft the wraith launch against the city.
The wraith were just sitting there, no shots had been fired and no one knew why. The pheonix group implemented phase two of its plans
The Leviathon single handed moved in and attacked directly with its energy weapons a large group of hive ships, it destroyed three hives and suffered no damage . The wraith attacked the levaithon by moving 12 of the hives away from the planet. It quickly retreated and drew the wriath, at this point the rest of the pheonix battlegroup jumped in to the arena right inside the lines of the hives which had been chasing the Leviathon. The serpent's and deadalus's use thier missiles and rail guns against the wraith in an extreamely effective close quarters battle, the wraith fleet suffered massive damge from the missile and 9 out of the 12 hives were destroyed or disabled, the others retreated. The battle group was in good shape, the one deadalus had been lost and several of the serpents were down to 40% shields but considering that 9 hives had been destroyed it was a good victory.
The use of an ambush and close quarters battle hadnt been fully explored but it seemed to work well. However the remaining wriath fleet of 12 hives above the city had called for aid and now hives were moving from the valhalla fleet over to the new london. The 12 hives quickly became 20 again, and then 30. The situation plummeted agaisnt us.
We hadnt expected the wraith to move thier forces, a battle with the Asgard was imminent and they were besieging, yet not attacking a city wide open for attack. The battle was confusing everyone at this point.
The wraith forces, now 22 hive moved in to attack the city finally, the chose thier standard circular attack formation. We had to act quickly, very quickly.
"sir we are detecting build up in the wraith hives"
"sir the valhalla has just opened a hyperspace window"
"what?! where!"
"sir the valhalla has reappeared on the other side of the wraith armarda surrounding new london, its taking position above the city"
"Freya must have decided it was better to defend two cities with the same shield, get me fleetwide"
"sir you are go for fleetwide"
" Commanders of the pheonix Squadren, our plans have changed, your new mission is to defend valhalla at all costs, The hive fleets are going to come hard and fast..be ready. This is it boys, the big show is about to start, man all rail guns, arm missile batteries, full speed ahead"

The Wraith had moved evry hive in the system in to a wall and circle formation (like |O ) ... to stop the destruction of the city the wall had to be breached, a wall considing of 32 hive ships. The pheonix group opened fire, over 300 missiles ploughed in to the unshielded wall of hive ships. Out of the 300 missiles only 64 missiles had hit thier targts, which would be considered a success if the 64 missiles had destroyed the hive wall.
Few hives had emptied their dart bay, but those that had were met with our own fleet of fighters, clearing the path for the missiles just before launch by jumping from hyperspace right i to the middle of the wall of hives and sandwitchnig the darts between our battleships railguns and their own missiles.
19 hives were destroyed of damaged but the wall was still stopping us preventing the assault on the city of Valhalla/new london by the halo of wraith hives above.
The Remaining forces of the wraith numbered 43, plus the superhive Which had not yet shown its presense within the battle surprisingly. That was all about to change...


Ok im stopping now. Kinda of a cliffhanger, but ill post another part later on promise :) man that was a rush, i enjoyed it! We still have a big battle to get through:D

[Buba uognarf]

cool battle, i'm going to post the third part of my battle in about 2 days i haven't time to work on it yet...

looking forward to the next part

[NoDot]

this could be the next phase in the history of the galaxy, the reawaking of another enemy of the ancients maybe.If this is the case, shall I just whip out the Krom?

[immhotep]

Krom?, im sure im missing a reference :)

[immhotep]

People i think we could have a partial answer to our modeling lack. googlesketch, its really easy to use and can produce some good result, even i can work it a bit. i just need to play around alot more but its the easiest modeller ive come accross by far. Maybe if theres someone whos good at it they could do our models, because they seem easier and quicker to make for some reason.

[Buba uognarf]

If this is the case, shall I just whip out the Krom?

erm...i think we should stay away from creating enemies for the sake of it, i think we should develop the enemies we already have. Feel free to post your new enemy but i don't know whether we should include them in the current war...

they could be the next enemy after the wraith are defeated...NoDot could you post the numbers for the entire Triumverent fleet please so i know how powerful they stacked up against everyone else...


ok i just read thebattle, but i have a few problems it doesn't fit in with the already established history, i thought the Triumverent were meant to be minor players not dealing crippling blows here there and everywhere...

the wraith only lose control with the massive Reaper invasion in 2033 when wraith and tauri join forces and defeat the Reapers, i don't like the fact that whats been established already has been completely disraguarded so a new enemy can run around and destroy everyone, now saying all this i know this a group effort and everyone is entittled to join in and have fun but i'm unhappy with the Triumverent playing such a huge role...

they should not turn the tide of war! this is the tauri war and it is the tauri who should defeat the wraith. Also the Reapers are pretty much unstoppable almost every engagement with them ends in defeat they're meant to nearly overrun the galaxy not be tossed aside by a race who controls a handful of worlds...

last problem the fleets are ridiculusly big, the battle i'm writing is a third of both fleets you should stay away from writing battles bigger than mine because otherwise it contradict established history, my battle was the turning point before the Triumverent were created...

you need to shrink the fleets alot like divid them by 10 or something maybe more...

i really sorry i'm not trying to be mean or controlling but i've worked quite hard on establishing the history and i'm not happy about seeing it all scrapped...
i'm not prepared to give up the history i was asked to help establish which has been worked on over several months in exchange for something you've come up with in a couple of weeks...

i'm really sorry but i had to say it, i have no problem with you writing battles and adding to the exsisting history but it has to fit in...

sorry if i've upset you i'm not trying to ruin it for you...

[immhotep]

I think Buba has the right to say those things, he has come up with alot of the historical events surrounding the wraith war, and while the triumverent are a very interesting enemy i think that they are too powerfull and actually a little confusing.
We have worked on this for months, putting together a coherent plot. The wraith are a massive problem and the reapers are the wraith and then some. Which gave an extra layer to the war.
Adding the Asgard as a military ally gave us the required boost to our forces so we could deal with such overwhealming numbers and a change in the wraith's society that made them able to come at us like never before.
The war with the wraith isnt over by a long shot, and the tauri are not really in a position to fight a war on three fronts. We can deal with the wraith, just, and eventually win, but adding this extra enemy that uses ancient and wraith technology makes things too complicated for us and i think if we want to realistic battles emerage from this thread then the triumverent should be put aside. For the moment.

This is just my idea on how the Triumverent could emerge later. Correct me if im wrong but they are human with both wraith and ancient tech at thier disposal. How about the genii or some other advanced human race in this galaxy take advantage of the fallout of the wraith/tauri war to construct a new hybrid fleet. claiming thatwe are invaders rather than liborators now that we have moved such a fleet of ships in to the galaxy. This fleet is built around 2040, after the wraith are pretty much elliminated and the tauri then have to fight for their new colonies against this army that want to see us leave.

^^ that would make the triumverent an enemy we could include but be distant enough to not affect the current timeline and upset people.^^

[Buba uognarf]

Thats a good idea immhotep, the virtual fleet doesn't and shouldn't end with the wraith and the triumverent could be the answer...

once the wraith war is dealt with it would be very interesting to use an entirelly different enemy and it would offer us a greta deal of freedom...

i was originally hesitant about adding more enemies because of the way it would affect the war historicly, but i wasn't too bothered about them being a minor adversitory but i'm very unhappy about them causing such an impact...

immhotep's idea is a good idea and a good compramise...

[immhotep]

Hi im really excited about this google sketch thing, it really easy to use and im basicly hooked! I would like to show you 4hours of my work, this is at the moment a very primitive first model of the leviathon. And well take a look.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8162/leviathon1it1.th.png (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=leviathon1it1.png)

[Buba uognarf]

i said it in the other thread but it looks realy good hopefully i'll be able to get the hand of it soon...

[immhotep]

Im really happy with how quickly ive learned im an impatient person by nature which is why modeling always annoyed me, it took age, this thing is great through.
Because the people in here are more aware of the leviathon; do you like the look of it? and any preference on how it would look, i have a blank canvas now so you can tailor it and ill try and sort it out. the textures are crap mind you and i havent figured out getting more.

[Buba uognarf]

Im really happy with how quickly ive learned im an impatient person by nature which is why modeling always annoyed me, it took age, this thing is great through.
Because the people in here are more aware of the leviathon; do you like the look of it? and any preference on how it would look, i have a blank canvas now so you can tailor it and ill try and sort it out. the textures are crap mind you and i havent figured out getting more.

i think it looks realy good as it is, very futistic, you can tell it's tauri but you can also see the asgard influence...one suggestion don't add too much to it cause it would ruin it...

[immhotep]

Updates so far have only been an overhaul of the powersource. Which was the hexagon thing at the front. i studieds the prictures of the beliskner ( my ships design inspiration) and saw alot of bluey colours. The power source looks really cool now but is at the front of the ship in it own little platform thing now.
The design is basicly meant to look like aTauri/Asgard hybrid and thats what the leviathon is. The Asgard core gives us a unique punch with this ship and ultimately thats reflected in that with the core, the more asgard looking our ships have become. The ventral hyperdrive fins are distinctly Asgard, on the plus note while the not only look cool they give alot of manueverability. I will be refining the the fins alot.

[immhotep]

In the tags are three new images of the WIP model of the Leviathon, hope you like it

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/931/leviathonrearwq9.png
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3315/leviathonpowerkd0.png
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6064/leviathonfrontus1.png

[NoDot]

I'm in a very bad mood right now. I'll post my comments later.

[tobi]

For a first attemp it looks just great.. But is it just me or does it have a look like a comic book thing.

[immhotep]

i think thats just the program, i dont have much control over it im affraid. thanks foe comment's though. Nodot hope you cheer up :)

[NoDot]

Hm... I like the post-war Wraith storyline. The Krom actually work a little better there, but as to the use of Wraith tech directly, the Triumverent have had 9,000 years to R.E. Wraith tech. That, and they consider it their duty as survivors of their time to record and preserve Ancient knowledge.

And Buba, you wanted the ship count?
Active and Manned:
- 60 Drone Carriers
- 200 Fighter Carriers
- 130 Bomber Carriers
- 10 Great Carriers
- 400 Gunboats
- 230 Frigates
- 230 Cruisers
- 100 Battleships
- 3 Main Bases
- 4 Black Hole Stations (1 in MW)
- 50 Free-Space Shipyards
Hidden and Unmanned:
- 1,200 Drone Carriers
- 21,000 Fighter Carriers
- 16,600 Bomber Carriers
- 100 Great Carriers
- 60,000 Gunboats
- 10,000 Frigates
- 10,000 Cruisers
- 10,400 Battleships

[immhotep]

Woah ok the inactive an unmanned ship count is like !!!!! waay too much, shave 2/3's of each of the figures and it would be more comfortable. I do like thier premise as survivors of the ancients time and therefore historically rooted in the galaxy much longer than any of the surviving races, besides the wraith obviously.

[Buba uognarf]

sorry about what i said earlier NoDot i know you alot of effort in, as for your ship figues they're alittle on the huge side, we do need to beat them...lol....seeing as we're writing out fleets i'll post the full wraith fleet at there peak before the Reapers...

Wraith

712 hives
967 predators
2054 cruisers
millions of darts

Reapers when the war started outside the brackets inside the brackets are at there peak...

354 Reaper hives (611)
563 V-type battle ships (784)
1235 Destroyers(3874)


ok thats roughly the fleets

[NoDot]

OK, I shaved some off the Triumverent's hidden fleet, and I'll go write down the history and stats for the Krom.

[NoDot]

Sorry for the double post.

The Krom: HistoryThe Krom were once a small, but famous, faction of the Wraith. In the Wraith-Ancient War, the Krom were both feared and revered by the other Wraith, and just feared by the Ancients. The Krom held a tight monopoly on knowledge of technology and science. The Krom are mostly known through their "agents," the Keepers, to the other factions. Beyond them, the Krom remained a mysterious force only a few would ever be able to glimpse.

After the war with the Ancients, the Krom brought back most of their Keepers, leaving only enough to maintain their fleets. As to the rest, they returned to the Krom's territory on the outskirts of the galaxy where no Stargates had been placed, where they stayed, growing small amounts of G.E. food to sustain themselves without a human population. Here, they developed a strong sense of tactics and strategy both on ground and in space, making sure they maintained their superiority over the other, more plebeian Wraith.

In this environment of tactics, strategy, and knowledge, the Krom went from simply the ship and weapon maintainers to one of the most experienced and powerful military and scientific powers in the Pegasus Galaxy, the aristocracy of the Wraith.

And so they remained so, until 4,000 BCE when they met the Triumverent, beginnning a small, but long war in both space and on the surfaces which lasts yet today.

With Earth's arrival in Pegasus hailed a new era, and the Krom decided to try and stay back and watch. But with the imminent defeat of both the Wraith and the Reavers, the Krom have decided to take action.

[immhotep]

I think they coudl be cool, we dont know that much about wriath society and history, i think this could be a plausable and interesting new branch of the wriath developing here. Well done. you cna write battles, you have permission lol but set in the 2040's say 5 years after the wraith & reaver extinction so we have time to recover from whatever grand last battle is going to be devised and be able to cope with a new enemy.

[rosstaylor]

check ot my vulcan fighter class for a good fighter, page 82 in oringinal starship desgin

[immhotep]

Last Prequal: (read first)
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5782796&postcount=1306


Opperation Castle Gaurd - Implementation part 2

Current condition:
Our forces were becoming weakened considerable. Out last offencive, while as success because it destoyed 19 hives was not as successfull as predicted. Ordinants amounst the ships of the fleet was wearing thin, we had rail guns at full opperating status but all our missiles were depleted. We had a combined nuke count of 13 between our entire fleet. However we were, for the most part an intact fleet.
The fleet that was protecting the Valhalla was left in the open surrounded by hives, and has retreated awaiting assistance that will not arrive for a few hours.
Second attack:
After we have used both a full on attack and ambush techniques in this skirmish it wasnt clear what to do, the wraith were raining down bolts of energy in thier thousands against the valhalla, 32 hives at 4 shots minute is very intense, even for the asgards most powerfull shields. We needed to find a way to get the remaining nukes in to an effective striking range even with our beams disabled. some fighter squadrens already patroling the city, using thier missiles and smaller rail guns to prevent the dart fleets aggrevating the situation but we had a contingent in reserve near the moon. to prevent relieving valhalla and new london of their aireal support the reserve units were loaded with the 13 remaining nukes In a flash of light all our remaining bombers and fighters at the moon base and from abaord the aegis hyperspace jumped from the moon in to the centre of the 'halo of destruction' above valhalla and commenced a circular bombing run around the halo. the reserve contingent consisted of about 60 F302 fighters and 30 F/B-307, with the bulk of the fighters protecting the city from darts. the 90 or so ships dropped thier payloads effectively and each of the 13 nukes was not intercepted due to the dart bays of most of the halo being preoccupied with our main fighter wing, 32 ships had been reduces to 19, with a further 4 ships disabled by collatrol damage and friendly fire.
15 hives remained and our ships had expended all nuclear ordinants, only 1 ships remained able to fight hives effectively, the Leviathon. all other ships had only rail gun fire to assist whilst the leviathon at least had energy cannons.

At this stage the forces are like this:
Human:
-The Leviathon battleship (shields at 60%)
-11 Serpent battlecruisers (shield at 50%)
-2 Aegis class carriers (100%)
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser (80%)
-4 unity destroyer (100%)
-4 tegelus gunship (50%)
-3 deadalus class battlecarrier (40%)
-4 columbia class assault carrier (90%)
-12 Alkesh bombers (100%)
-A combined airwing of 120 F-302a's (60%)
-6 oniel's (+ 15 enroute) (80%,100%)
-The valhalla (shields at 68%)

Wraith:
30 hives (90%)
1 superhive (100%)


Retaliation
Up until this point most of our ships had been reletively safe, for the amount of damage inflicted, 26 hives destroyed, our forces had coem away very well. But there is a reason for this, the wraith knew the Asgard would bring thier armies to face the wraith with this position's importance, the reason no attack had been launched early was to lure the Asgard for an all out attack. The time was now, the Wraith changed thier stance, their ships regrouped and formed a wall the halo was disbanded and in its place the superhive was brought in. Impressive to say the least but we had our own reinforcements to come, within minutes of the superhive moving in to position the Asgard reinforcements arrived, the 6 oniel that were present linked up to their comrades and there in one place was the single largest concentration of asgard military power anywhere. 21 Oneils plus the city ship valhalla all in one place. This battle was going to be huge, and our part in it seem to dwindle.

the Superhive launched its mainweapon, its shield pummler, designed to besiege atlantis it work just as effectivly on valhalla. The oniels say this and opened fire on the wall of hives in front of the superhive, at the same time Leviathon ordered all other ships to fire thier rail guns at the the hive wall in assist. The leviathon opened up its energy cannons its white blobs raining down on the wraith just as much as the Asgard's purple bolts. The hive wall agaisnt the shower of energy from the 22 allied ships with energy weapons had very little chance, the 30 hives opened fire and their weapons were hitting the shields of the oneils and doing moderate damage(2-3% per minute, per ship) but in all reality the Asgard ships were shielded too well for any of the hives to make any serious impression. The superhive then opened fire. Its larger energy cannons hit 3 of the oniels at once and took each of thier shields down 8%, now it got interesting.

The hive wall was essentially destroyed, 6 hive ships remained after 8 minutes of throwing energy at each other. The leviathon and the pheonix squadren were asked to mop up. They did so, 6 hives was not a problem compared to the superhive in thier view. The columbia, deadalus, leviathon and serpent vessels enganged the hives in CQB and after sustaining moderate damage won thier skirmish, they retreated and pulled all ships back to behind the oniels after.
During the hive mop up opperation the superhive and oniels had been testing the water. The superhive was an unknown ship to the asgard at this point, they fired a first wave, 3-4 bolts from 3 ships, and discovered the shielding and then had to adapt. Meanwhile Valhalla had its shields down to 40% after only 25Minutes under siege.

As we know the superhive is the high queens flagships and this battle will quite possible be the only official Asgard/Wraith battle in the war that has both rulers present. Freya on valhalla and the high queen on the superhive.
The valhalla would fall within the hour this battle needed to be over, soon. The oniels broke in to three groups of 7 ships each, two groups used their advanced hyperdrives and tactical knowledge to outflank the superhive and hit them from the back, where thier shields were weakened from the shield draining device. This bombing run hit the superhive hard and the weapon became unstable for a few moments. The Asgard's two flanking sqaudrens had imbobilsed the ship with thier impressive weapons array.
It did not last long, within 5minutes the superhive began an offensive and hit the onielswith everything they had. 6 oniels were destroyed in a few minutes skirmish. It seemed like niether could get a propper grip on the battle.
The wraith and asgard tossed energy bolts between each other until freya on valhalla ordered the fleet to all focus on on spot, directly above the power source for the ship, a discovered weak spot. With her shields at 26% the valhalla might not survive if the superhives main weapon isnt shut down. The oniels react instantly and over 50 bolts of energy from the oneils hits the target, punched a hole through the shields and some bolts hit the powersource directly.
The superhive's weapon deactivates instantly and the shields fluctuate. There is a pause, and during the pause valhalla reacts. Its energy cannons, all 30 of them fire upwards from the surface, blasting the superhive with a massive display of firepower, the oniels follow suit and now almost 100 blasts a minute were hitting the fluctuating yet still operational shields of the superhive. They flucuate once more and power down. The Asgard continue firing, the hull is much stronger than usual hives but the rain of 100 bolts per minute is having an effect, the ship starts exploding from within. The hull breaks apart and the superhive explodes in a massive bang that spreads through the fleet and surrounding space.

Evaluation speaches

"This battle was one of both political importance and psychological warfare. The wraith underestimated our forces, the underestimated our tactical abilities and the underestimated our allies. The Asgard are truely brothers of the tauri for today they showed why our allience is still strong, in times of need we stick together, in time of prosperity we move as equals. The wraith have been struck a mortal would, the loos of thier highest ranking military leader, thier strongest fleet and thier power powerfull ship to date. Now is the time to strike back and reclaim recent losses and gain new ground. New London, our second city in this galaxy could have been lost and our efforts for 20 years to build her crushed in 1 day but the wraith failed and now it is time to show them what failure mean and to move our ambitions to the next level." - Admiral richardson of the Pheonix Squadren speaking to the intergalactic warfare commitee, homeworld security via holo link.

"This battle has been key victory to the success of the Asgard in this galaxy; and secured the continued respect of the Asgard in the eyes of the wraith, such respect has been the key to asgard dominance of the species. News of our victory must reach every inhabitant of Pegasus, many worlds view us as gaurdians of Pegasus and as such we must ensure their faith is shown to be in the right place. This battle will be viewed as the greatest allied defence parnership in our allience's history." - Freya of the Asgard to the Asgard high council.

What do you think? :)
immhotep

[Buba uognarf]

It's very good...one question was the high queen killed in the battle?

[immhotep]

We believe so. Another queen can take her place right? otherwise she didnt and escaped.

[Buba uognarf]

We believe so. Another queen can take her place right? otherwise she didnt and escaped.

i dunno, i originally had her being destroyed by the Reapers, but i don't mind it if you want more than 1 queen

[immhotep]

Well it makes sense that there would be queens in waiting just in case she died.

[Buba uognarf]

yeah, i know i imagine lots of power struggles within the wraith

[immhotep]

I think that the superhive is needed for this purpose, the wraith know that with valhalla thre they dont stand a chance and so the superhive is basicly the wraiths city ship destroyer. The high queen is captain of the superhive so had to fight therefore went down with the ship
The whole Asgard/Wraith end was cool for me because its the only major asgard/wraith battle that is fought. We did our part but without the oniels we would have lost. I think that why we survive so well, because we can fight well, we just need that extra bit of support to finish off in the major battles, like here, we took out 26 hives + all the cruisers which is impressive but needed the big guns to bring down the superhive, which is just real life, you can only do so much.

[Buba uognarf]

I think that the superhive is needed for this purpose, the wraith know that with valhalla thre they dont stand a chance and so the superhive is basicly the wraiths city ship destroyer. The high queen is captain of the superhive so had to fight therefore went down with the ship
The whole Asgard/Wraith end was cool for me because its the only major asgard/wraith battle that is fought. We did our part but without the oniels we would have lost. I think that why we survive so well, because we can fight well, we just need that extra bit of support to finish off in the major battles, like here, we took out 26 hives + all the cruisers which is impressive but needed the big guns to bring down the superhive, which is just real life, you can only do so much.

i liked the battle i thought the wraith asgard face off was cool, i was only asking if the queen was killed...

[Buba uognarf]

this thread has been dead for a while so i thought while i was trying to write my battle i would pitch another idea i have for a battle and see what everyone thought...

2035 - End Game, no rest for the wicked

Prelude
Victory...was finally within the alliance's grasp after a desperate war for nearly 30 years the wraith were finally ready for the final curtain. The Reaper invasion had broken their power and devastated their infastructure while the alliance though suffered heavy casulties had much of it's infastructure intact and were pressing their advantage...

though the Reapers were gone the wraith had been dealt a blow they could never recover from, in the wake of the final battle the tauri high council had decided that they could not wait for the wraith to rebuild and broke the treaty launching multiple attacks on wraith worlds...

the loss of the wraith heirachy had left the wraith empire in chaos and this sudden attack plunged the wraith nation into civil war the wraith looked to be on the brink of defeat but in reality they had one last trick up their sleeve...


On a distand world a wraith general ammassed a huge fleet, from the last remaining Superhive (mass produced during the Reaper crisis). The target EARTH. The wraith had aquired a piece of technology from an ancient race (preferably Triumverent or krom but i could use ancients) capable of transporting an entire wraith fleet to earth in a matter of hours the wraith would have their revenge the rivers of earth would run red with the blood of the tauri for ever challenging the wraith...

the defenses of earth were not equiped to deal with such a large attack but the Hades and Phoenix fleets have detected the power build up and have to entered the gateway to earth...

Wraith fleet

1 superhive
195 hives
233 predators
456 cruisers
5 Wraith 'Supercanons' rough stats are 3 km in length immensly powerful shield dispruter weapon....


what do you think?

[immhotep]

So this is it? The showdown, i dont think there should be that many hives id say 125, the super hive is ok, bu no super canons, the fleet already is enough.

Do not forget that around Earth there is a sizable fleet, about the same as the hades and pheonix fleets combined. But we also have greater support from allies such as the Asgard and Jaffa; basicly you can use hataks and the Asgard too.

[Davidtourniquet]

Who got the taugarith vessels Buba since the wraith would be able to use the hyperdrive designs from those.

[Buba uognarf]

So this is it? The showdown, i dont think there should be that many hives id say 125, the super hive is ok, bu no super canons, the fleet already is enough.

Do not forget that around Earth there is a sizable fleet, about the same as the hades and pheonix fleets combined. But we also have greater support from allies such as the Asgard and Jaffa; basicly you can use hataks and the Asgard too.

Basically the whole point of the battle is a suprise attack earth is taken completely unawares and most of the fleet is elsewhere, i'd think most of the fleet would be focused in pegasus anyway to deal with the wraith....(bringing the Ori into this makes this very complicated at the moment i would think they would be defeated long before this point by merlins weapon)...

why should the fleet surrounding earth be so big? most of it would be in pegasus the rest scattered accross colonies in the MW, it's a stretch enough to think the tauri have 1000+ ships in pegasus i doubt they'd have anywhere near that many in MW, my view on this historically is that most of the fleets in MW were sent to pegasus to help mop up the wraith seeing as a sizeable portion of the fleet was lost in battle against the Reapers thats how we explain the lack of ships in earths defense, also with no immediate threat to earth the fleet was allowed to be moved...

no warning so asgard intervention is non exsistant the jaffa would also be unable to render help...

as for the wraith fleet i'll put the hive count down to 140 (a compramise) but i'd like the super canons to stay, i just had a picture in my head of huge blue pillars of light descending from the sky leveling cities, i'm not going to damage earth too badly only a few cities will be destroyed...


Who got the taugarith vessels Buba since the wraith would be able to use the hyperdrive designs from those.

erm...you designed them so it's up to you, but i would think most of them would be destroyed with the rest shared between wraith and alliance forces (basically whoever was quick enough to capture the ships when the treaty was broken) but i don't think any more should be built seeing as we wouldn't have wraith assistance and i think their organic technology is beyond us

[immhotep]

Earth is a capitol city of the MW in every sense; largest population, historical importance, military, culutral and tecnplogical supperiority, politically independant and influcental. In every way earth is the most important planet in the known universe right now and in the future.
Simply put, if you attack earth expect to fight adn fight hard. If you bring a fleet to our planet, then we will do everything inhumanly possible to stop you.
If the wraith invade they should be met with a large fleet because earth will, for all of time be portected as well as it can be. The pegasus fleet was built mainly in pegasus with the Asgard, not shipped from earth so earth will be producing ships on its own too.

[NoDot]

tThe wraith had aquired a piece of technology from an ancient race (preferably Triumverent or krom but i could use ancients) capable of transporting an entire wraith fleet to earth in a matter of hoursBetter idea: a piece of tech that allows the Wraith to temporarily (for a day or two) hide in another dimension (think Sodan cloaks). The Triumverent, having been rexperimenting with this technology for the past couple decades, informs a planet known to be loyal to the T/A-A about the Hives on their way to Earth (or not).

[immhotep]

Hey after seeing the return we now have a mid galaxy space centre. Is it ok if i evolve the space station and make it all hyped up and cool, like it will be after 20 years of renovation and improvements, then like have a battle or something there?

[Buba uognarf]

Hey after seeing the return we now have a mid galaxy space centre. Is it ok if i evolve the space station and make it all hyped up and cool, like it will be after 20 years of renovation and improvements, then like have a battle or something there?

yeah go for it sounds good, have you finished valhalla? and sorry my battles taken so long i'll make time for it this week...

i'm also gonna start putting the history together, so if people could repost their battles and anything historical they've written (or give me a link to the page) i can start to put it together...

[immhotep]

i found a story i made that was histroical:
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5594549&postcount=875

too be honest ive made far to many posts in this thread, in fact ive only posted in a handful of other threads other than this one and my 4000th post was in this thread right at the begining (page 4 i believe) so ive made close to 500 posts in this thread alone :) im proud!

[Buba uognarf]

i found a story i made that was histroical:
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5594549&postcount=875

too be honest ive made far to many posts in this thread, in fact ive only posted in a handful of other threads other than this one and my 4000th post was in this thread right at the begining (page 4 i believe) so ive made close to 500 posts in this thread alone :) im proud!

wow, thats alot, no worries i'll search through it, when i write up battles i do them in word so i have easy access in future

[immhotep]

ok great looking forward to whatever you have coming, i keep having to revive this thread from page 2/3 :D but it shall not die, this thread is too important. i really would like to get this and the OSDT stickied.

[Buba uognarf]

ok great looking forward to whatever you have coming, i keep having to revive this thread from page 2/3 :D but it shall not die, this thread is too important. i really would like to get this and the OSDT stickied.

yeah that would be good, have you asked to get it stickied??...and the third part of my massive battle is soon to come...you working on anything?

[NoDot]

OK, I've been lazy, but here they are, finally:

Krom Fighter
Dimensions:
- Length: 20m
- Width: 15m
- Height: 12m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
Weapons
- 2 Pulse Beams

Krom Anti-Fighter
Dimensions:
- Length: 50m
- Width: 30m
- Height: 24m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
- Small-Scale Shield System
Weapons
- 6 Turrented Dual Pulse Beams

Krom Gunship
Dimensions:
- Length: 150m
- Width: 70m
- Height: 65m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
- Shield Generator
Weapons
- 16 Pulse Cannons, Size C

Krom Frigate
Dimensions:
- Length: 300m
- Width: 100m
- Height: 90m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
- Shield Generator
Weapons
- 36 Pulse Cannons, Size C

Krom Cruiser
Dimensions:
- Length: 350m
- Width: 120m
- Height: 100m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
- Shield Generator
Weapons
- 60 Pulse Cannons, Size C
- 36 Pulse Cannons, Size B

Krom Annihilator
Dimensions:
- Length: 350m
- Width: 120m
- Height: 100m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
- Shield Generator
Weapons
- 1 VBMW (Very Big Main Weapon)
Notes:
- The Annihilator is designed to look on the outside like a Cruiser, but its Main Weapon is able to destroy ship completely.
- Annihilators are rarely found, except in rare circumstances.

Krom Battleship
Dimensions:
- Length: 600m
- Width: 280m
- Height: 250m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
- Shield Generator
Weapons
- 70 Pulse Cannons, Size B
- 50 Pulse Cannons, Size A

Krom Carrier
Dimensions:
- Length: 700m
- Width: 350m
- Height: 290m
Defenses:
- Organic Armour
- Shield Generator
Weapons:
- 60 Pulse Cannons, Size C
Carrying Capacity:
- 100 Fighters
- 50 Anti-Fighters

Also, since I'm being thorough...

Prelude to the Krom

The Wraith and the Reavers were long considered to have been decimated to the point of an annoyance by the Tau'ri/Asgard Alliance, but that was the least of their worries: The galaxy had been split. The arrival of the Asgard and the birth of the Tau'ri/Asgard Alliance had brought new order to the galaxy, and order unknown since the time of the Ancients.

But peace does not always breed logic. In many smaller villages, shrines were raised in the honor of the Asgard and the Tau'ri, believing in most cases that they were devine beings who had come to vanquish the old evil. Others feared the Alliance, believing, or rather fearing, that they would instill a worse order than the Wraith had.

And on the fringes of the galaxy, an old power was stirring. Massive war machines were errected, honors were put on the line, and fortunes were about to be made and lost. The Krom were preparing for all-out war.

The Triumverent knew. The Krom had been simply too quite for too long to be playing innocently. They knew what was about to happen, and they let it. As long as their enemies fought amongst themselves, they were safe, and they could prepare.

Also, what's the defense force around New London about June 2041?

[immhotep]

I like the ships they are really quite cool, short and sweet.
New london defence force..Hmm, Pheonix fleet + fleet of 8 deadalus class's ( and other ships if you want) and the largest off homeworld fighter wing ( 1500 fighters) + 8 Oniels + valhalla if you want to use.

you can be liberal with the forces by 2041 we will have recovered somewhat from the last big battle to take place there

[NoDot]

Battle of New London
June 2041

PreludeThe galaxy was still having trouble adjusting to the peace they had just been handed on a plate, but the Krom were not going to wait for them to adjust, and they planned to emerge with a bang.

And Kortel knew he was getting the short end of the stick on this one. He was the best stratician and tactician in his family and the next in line to head the family. He knew he was being sent on what was effectively a suicide mission, and if he turned it down, he (and his decendants) would be laughed at, same with retreating. If he failed, he would just be a martyr for his father, but if he won... if he won, he would be hailed as the greatest commander in the history of the Krom. If he won, he would be able to take the family throne form his father then and there, and perhaps even force the electorate to put him in charge of the war. He, and his decents, would be famous, forever! But they had no chance.

They had no chance because New London was their target, one of the most heavily defended planets in the T/A-A domain. And if, by some miracle, they managed to win, they'd have to hold it long enough for re-inforcements to arrive, and there was no was Kortel's father would send forces at any reasonable speed. Even if he won, he would have to defend the planet with the remanents of his small attack force, and the Phoenix Battle Group was already enroute. (The Valhalla is at Atlantis for the moment.)

For Kortel, victory was ascent to power, defeat was martyrdom to a cause he hated, and retreat was discrace. For the T/A-A, defeat was not an option.

ForcesKrom Forces, Kortel (186)
- 100 Krom Gunships
- 35 Krom Frigates
- 40 Krom Cruisers
- 4 Krom Carriers
- 3 Krom Battleships
- 4 Krom Annihilators
New London Defense Force (16)
- 8 Daedalus-class Battlecarriers
- 8 O'Nielll-class Asgard Ships
- 1500 F-302 Fighters
Phoenix Battle Group, Enroute (53)
- 1 Leviathon Battleship
- 12 Serpent-class Battlecruisers
- 2 Aegis-class Carriers
- 8 Henry Arnold-class Cruisers
- 6 Unity-class Destroyers
- 6 Tegelus-class Gunships
- 3 Deadalus-class Battlecarrier
- 4 Columbia-class Assault Carrier
- 12 Alkesh Bombers
- 180 F-302A Fighters (Combined Airwing)

Act I: FormationThe pitiful Krom force emerged form hyperspace and entered their formations, seven groups of with a Carrier or Battleship, seven Frigates, and four Cruisers each; and four groups of four Cruisers and an Annihilator each, with the Gunships arranged in a wall for protection.

The defense forces, however, had time to prepare for the arrival of the opposition. All the fighters on the planet had been scrambled to orbit for the fight, and they had started to stream towards the invaders.

On board his ship, Kortel was shocked at how low the defenses were left, but he knew the the Phoenix Battle Group would arrive soon, or they wouldn't have left the defenses so low.

Act II: BattleThe 304s moved into position to intercept the four "Cruiser" groups headed their way, but the Annihilators concentrated their fire on one of the ships. The first three shots were stopped by the shield, but the fourth pierced the remanents easily and continuued on towards its target. The accompanying Cruisers concentrated their fire on another 304 in the target bunch. Two 304s were downed quickly.

The other seven Krom groups were forced to endure the massive number of fighters the planet had launched. The carriers launched their Fighers and Anti-Fighters to counter the annoying threats. Each of the three groups cntered on a Battleship focused their power on an individual O'Niell each, while the enemy ships concentrated their fire on the eleimination of a single group.

All efforts were in vain, however, as the Phoenix Battle Group had just arrived in the system on the opposite side of the Krom forces.

Act III: PhoenixThe Phoenix Battle Group emerged with missles flying out of their tubes at top speed. Krom Fighters, Anti-Fighters, and Gunships dropped like flies while the Frigates, Cruisers, Battleships, and Carriers took medium to light damage to their shields. All fighters in the Battle Group were then launched on clean-up duty against the remaining Fighters and Anti-Fighters.

Meanshile, the Annihilators seemed to see a bigger threat in the Leviathon then the 304s trying to kill them, so they tried to turn around to fight. The nearby Henry Arnolds and Serpents noticed their movement and fired off a missle volley towards the ships. The Leviathon's weaponry was able to finish off the comming ships, but not before they were able to get off a shot each, weakening the Leviaton's shield dramatically. The remaining Cruisers which were accompanying their Annihilators were quickly dispatched.

The Carrier-centered groups were quickly dispatched after the Phoenix's initial volley after emerging from hyperspace, but Kortel kept the Battleships and their groups under tight control, making them far more deadly. The combined might of the remaining New London defense force and the entire remainder of the Leviaton Battle Group was needed to wear down their shields, and they didn't go easily.

Kortel's ship was the last to go, and his final command to the ship was an override and thrust, ramming the ship into the Leviathon's shield. The shield was drained, but the Battleship Kortel was on was destroyed; the Leviathon was left untouched, save the internal damage from the shield's failure.

AftermathThe Krom's enterance into the known galaxy was a sucessful scare, but Kortel's fate was not among the great victories the Krom achieved on that day. New London was held from attack, but other places were not so fortunate.

The Tau'ri/Asgard Alliance was forced to try and size up this new enemy who had invaded them. They were forced yet again to prepare for war.

The Triumverent just sat back and laughed: another war was about to begin!

[immhotep]

I really like them, its really cool, you have anoter level to it with the kortel character. The krom seem like a great enemy, it was clear they were going to lose, and they knew that, which i thought was really smart. They are not a super enemy like the Ori or asurians which i think is also cool. one thing about Sg is that everything gets followed by a greater enemy, these guys are just an advanced race, that kept out of trouble and now is taking advantage after the war with the wraith/reapers. Very cool Nodot :) looking forward to seeing more.

[Buba uognarf]

wow...i haven't been on for 2 days and quite alots happened, nice enemy Nodot they have alot of potential and the first bits about them and the battle look really good...

one suggestion would be that you decide how you want the war to play like a rough plan because that will make it easier in the future...

seeing your battle has finally given me the inspiration to finish my battle, it's taken a while due to school but i finally going to get it done...

it'll be finished later...

[Buba uognarf]

sorry for the double post but here is the battle thus far, what i've written today is more of a build up to the actual battle which is currently a work in progress as always tell me what you think...

[Buba uognarf]

this is whats happened already...

Part 1 + prelude
One small step for man…-Wraith vs Alliance battle
-24 august 2029

premise

After losing ground during the Superhive incident the alliance has been struggling to regain lost ground and the constant wraith offensive is slowly wearing us down. Troop moral is low and Alliance command has made a decision that has shocked the ranks it's all or nothing the largest battle of the war is set to take place, to have any hope of winning this war the wraith forces in the Kratus systems must been destroyed and them driven from our territory...

Victory would mean hope and force the wraith to fall back to their own space but defeat would mean the end of the war...

The largest battle in the history of the galaxy and the battle that will determine the future of Pegasus is about to begin…

Fleets involved

Wraith

211 hives
298 predators
350 cruisers
200,000 darts

(43 hives
17 predators
20 cruisers) on their way to the system





Alliance

Fleet 1 :

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-12 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-8 Henry arnolds cruiser
-6 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-3 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-12 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 536 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-10 serpents
-6 deadali's
-4 Aegis class carriers
-12 Henry arnolds cruiser
-10 unity destroyer
-10 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-10 Alkesh bombers
-1000 F-302's
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 2:

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
-7 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-2 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 500 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 8 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-10 Henry arnolds cruiser
-14 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-6 deadalus class battlecarrier
-6 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 1000 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 3:

Titan + Hercules + Scimitar combined forces

- 15 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-20 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 deadalus class battlecarrier
-20 Alkesh bombers
-6 columbia class assault carrier
-A combined airwing of 1200 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Asgard: (On route at the beginning of the battle)

-11 Asgard oneills
-Valhalla


Wraith System – Kratus

Planets + Defenses

Kratus IV:

Large baron planet, no life but supports a huge mining operation and 3 shipyards…

Defenses
- Wraith orbital mining station
- 44 wraith orbital defense canons
- 3 standard wraith shipyards



Kratus III:

Small moon orbiting Kratus 4 with approximately 200 thousand wraith, lightly defended with light planetary defenses…

Defenses
- 2 ship yards
- 13 wraith orbital defense canons
- 17 planetary defense canons


Kratus II:

Medium sized planet with approximately 5 million wraith, heavily defended with planetary defense canons and orbital defense canons it also has a wraith super station in orbit…

Defenses
- Wraith Super station with 5 additional ship yards
- 56 wraith orbital defense canons
- 38 planetary defense canons



Kratus I:

Large sized planet with approximately 3 billion wraith, most heavily defended world outside the home system

Defenses
- 2 Super stations and 13 additional shipyards
- 76 wraith orbital defense canons
- 98 planetary defense canons



The Battle

The alliance fleet drew closer and closer to their target, each captain knew the stakes and that this battle could very well be their last. As the captain of the Cerberus looked out across the bridge and at his crew he knew that they wouldn’t fail him they’d been in dozens of battles together and this would not be the last…

The fleet was broken into 3 smaller battle groups for a three pronged attack on the system with each group targeting a specific planet in their numbers the wraith were unbeatable but if they were separated the alliance may have a chance…

The captains also knew that the Wraith also noticed the fleet build ups and had amassed a third of their fleet to meet them, an Asgard contingent was on it’s way but the fleet could not wait the wraith fleet assembled could decimate dozens of systems they had to strike before the fleet could move out…

Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus II…

The fleets dropped out of hyperspace above their designated targets but were immediately hit with a hail of gun fire from the orbital defenses several ships succumbed instantly to the fire and were destroyed…

The Phoenix battle fleet targeted Kratus II and opened fire on the orbital defense stations but the fire was easily repelled but their nigh impenetrable shields, the captain of the Leviathon noticed that the orbital defenses were tied into the Superstation and ordered all ships to target the station but with the wraith defense fleet baring down on them getting close enough to the station was more than difficult…

The only chance they had was launch all fighters and bombers and hope that the pilots skills would be enough to break through the Wraith lines, the fighters flew towards the Superstation but thousands of darts swarmed fourth from the Superstation and the planets surface ripping the alliance fighter squadrons to shreds. The captain of the Leviathon knew that the odds were against them and in daring move signaled part of the fleet to move in flanked by the Oneills and several destroyers the Leviathon pounded into the wraith lines and cut a sway through their fleet. The orbital canons switched their focus to the larger tauri ships, half the attacking fleet was annihilated almost instantly but the remaining fleet managed to enter range and blast a hole in the incoming dart screen giving the brave pilots of the alliance time to break through and fire their payload…

All at once 100’s of the most powerful tauri nukes were launched most of them heading towards the planet, the planetary defense canons fired in burst mode spraying the area with energy bolts destroying most of the incoming nukes but not enough, several multi-gigaton nukes struck the planet wiping out millions of wraith destroying much of the wraith infastructure…

Nearly a dozen nukes struck the Superstation causing catastrophic damage but the station was built to be resilient and survived the attack with many systems operational the orbital canons remained operational and the Superstation’s weapons hammed the incoming Alliance fleet. The Leviathon and 2 Oneills were the only ships now within range of the Superstation the rest of the fleet was fighting a losing battle against the orbital canons, all seemed lost until one of the Oneills discovered a weakness in the armor above the station stabilizers which were keeping the station in orbit the Leviathon reacted immediately opening fire on the weak spot the Oneills were soon to follow the Superstation continued to fire and one of the Oneills succumbed to the barrage but it was too late the stabilizers exploded from the pressure causing the station to lose power and come hurtling towards the planet, the remaining defense canons concentrated their fire in vain trying to stop the Stations descent but the station was too resilient and it hit the planet. The exploding generators destroyed the remaining infrastructure and without the Superstation supplying power the orbital canons powered down…

The remaining wraith defense fell back to Kratus I and the phoenix battle fleet began preparation for the final assault…


Surviving ships Alliance…

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-8 Serpent battlecruisers
-1 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-2 unity destroyer
-4 tegelus gunship
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-2 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 211 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-6 serpents
-3 deadali's
-3 Aegis class carriers
-9 Henry arnolds cruiser
-5 unity destroyer
-7 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-300 F-302's
- 1 Oneills

[Buba uognarf]

sorry for the Quadrupple post but here is the rest...

part 2

Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus IV-III…

The Cerberus dropped out of hyperspace leading the Hades battle fleet and immediately began evasive maneuvers to dodge the hail of gunfire, together with 3 gunship wings and the Oneills they moved to intercept the wraith fleet defending Kratus IV and III, the enemy fleet was small only 20 hives and 31 predators but it had the orbital defenses for fire support and the alliance was talking heavy casualties…

The smaller alliance ships ran circles around the wraith fleet but were unable to damage the orbital defenses. The power was being transferred from the mining station which was lightly defended, the captain of the Cerberus ordered the bulk of the fleet forward. Under the immense firepower of the Hades battle fleet the wraith forces were forced to retreat back to the main planet. The fleet stormed through the orbital defenses and blew the mining station to hell though several alliance ships were destroyed and crippled during the battle. The orbital defenses were quickly dispatched without their shields and the Hades battle fleet prepared to lay waste to Kratus IV but wraith reinforcements had already arrived and taken positions in orbital, with an iron determination the Cerberus’s captain ordered the final push…

The wraith reinforcements had arrived putting a wall of 50 hives between the Hades fleet and their goal. The fleet commanders knew that a head on confrontation with those hives and the orbital defense would result in heavy casualties, there was also another problem the orbital defenses were tied into a grid with all three of the ship yards and the mining station meaning disabling them would be near impossible…

Together the fleet commanders decided on a plan, it would rely on the legendary air wings of the Hades battle fleet. While the main fleet distracted the wraith forces the fighters would attack the wraith shipyards and fighters head on while half the bombers concentrated their fire on a mining station, when the station is destroyed the remaining bombers will detonate their payloads in between the orbital canons wiping them all out in 3 seconds it takes for the power link to establish with another shipyard…

The fleet moved out its target the wraith fleet. The wraith held their position and opened fire on the Hades battle fleet which took heavy damage. As the fleet entered range the captains gave the order to fire and launched a counter attack with tore into the wraith lines. The fleet continued to push forward despite taking horrendous damage from both the wraith fleet and the orbital canons, with a mighty crash the Hades fleet collided with the wraith Armanda the smaller tauri vessels out maneuvering the hives and their escorts. The wraith fleet took the bait and moved out of position to confront the tauri fleet head on, this is what the alliance had been waiting for the captain of the Cerberus gave the order…”launch the dagger” and the doors of hell opened and the fighters of the Hades battle fleet began the attack. The fighters and bombers flew into the heart of the battle dodging the fire they raced towards the target, but they had been detected and 9000 darts moved to intercept. The fighter group broke up into smaller squadrons with half the fighter wing engaging the stations and the other half providing cover fire for the bombers…

The battle against the wraith fleet was fierce although they had distracted the fleet long enough for the fighters to get through they were still within arms reach of the orbital canons and taking a beating victory hinged on the fighters…

The fighters fought an intense battle against the darts but the bombers were nearly in range, the bombers were ready for the final push but 3000 darts stood in their way and with only 200 fighters available for support it looked as though it was over. The fighters prepared for a suicidal attack when out of nowhere the Cerberus appeared and fired a volley from its energy canon decimating the dart squadrons allowing the alliance fighters to gain the upper hand and blast their way through. With the path clear the bombers fired their payloads annihilating the mining station, the rest of fighters needed no invitation and fired their nukes before evacuating the area. The nukes detonated simultaneously wiping out all the defense canons though many fighters were also lost in the blast…

The rest of the fleet pressed their advantage and drove the wraith back destroying their shipyards…

They didn’t have time to celebrate however as the Titan, Hercules and Scimitar forces had been devastated by the wraith and were in great need of assistance…


Surviving ships alliance

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 1 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-3 Henry arnolds cruiser
-13 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-A combined airwing of 234 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 6 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-7 Henry arnolds cruiser
-11 unity destroyer
-5 tegelus gunship
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-4 deadalus class battlecarrier
-A combined airwing of 278 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 2 Oneills




this is part 3 - enjoy and give feedback

Battle for the inner systems- Asteroid Field


The Phoenix and Hades fleets reached the asteroid field too late the only contacts were wreckage mainly from alliance ships the wraith had decimated the Titan, Hercules and Scimitar battle fleets, but all was not lost the fleet detected small isolated pockets of fighting the fleet captains ordered the fleet to break up and offer support to the remnants of the fleets but the bulk of the wraith armada was already on it’s way…

“Mayday mayday, calling all alliance ships we’re in desperate need of assistance…shields failing…hull breaches on 7 decks….we……(signal cuts out)” from the Pegasus command ship of the joint Scimitar, titan and Hercules fleets…

“Move to intercept!” captain of the Cerberus…

“…What happened?” Pegasus captain.
“That last shot took out our communications.” Helmsmen.
“Damn it! Divert all emergency power and life support to shields and engines, take us up those hives A-holes full thrust!”

The ship rocked as it set a direct course for 2 hives ship baring down on it’s position. The ship buckled under the strain as it took fire from the 2 hive ships.

“…shields down to 4%! The next 2 shots will finish us!” Helmsmen.
“Maintain course, Ramming speed prepare to activate the self destruct!” ordered the captain.

The hives prepared to fire when out of no where 4 missiles flew over the Pegasus and slammed into one of the hives causing massive damage, the Cerberus had arrived and positioned itself between the hives and the Pegasus. A volley from the Cerberus energy canons destroyed the first hive while half a dozen alliance ships finished off the second. Similar skirmishes took place across the asteroid belt but with the overwhelming numbers of alliance ships the wraith forces retreated to regroup with the remaining fleet.

Several smaller alliance ships escaped the massacre by hiding in the asteroid field the minerals in the asteroids themselves hid them from wraith sensors but most of the carriers and battle cruisers had been destroyed in the battle and the majority of the fleet had sustained damage…

And with the bulk of the wraith fleet approaching due to arrive in less then 30min (consisting of well over 100 hives) things looked grim indeed, the fleet made what little repairs they could and prepared for the endgame…

[immhotep]

So this is going to be huge. i might write a new battle, where we attack the wraityh home world in an all out attack with our remaining ships, knowing that most of them had been dispatched to aid in this battle, a hit and run attck might just do it :D
Kratus I is gonig to have the Asgard ( they were enroute, i assume they arrive soon), the hades and pheonix battlegroups and basicly all of the ships we have left in the galaxy. this is going to be incredible i hope i wont have to wait too long :D

[Buba uognarf]

So this is going to be huge. i might write a new battle, where we attack the wraityh home world in an all out attack with our remaining ships, knowing that most of them had been dispatched to aid in this battle, a hit and run attck might just do it :D
Kratus I is gonig to have the Asgard ( they were enroute, i assume they arrive soon), the hades and pheonix battlegroups and basicly all of the ships we have left in the galaxy. this is going to be incredible i hope i wont have to wait too long :D

yeah it's going to be massive, and your idea is good a kind of 2 pronged attack to deal as much damage as possible to the wraith...

this battle occupies a third of the wraith fleet so it makes sense that the home system will be less heavily defended although the orbital defenses will be huge!

the bulk of the asgard fleet in pegasus will arrive to save the day and will consist of 11 oneills and maybe valhalla they'll smash into a flank taking it by suprise giving our fleets time to counter attack although it will be costly victory...

you won't have to wait to long, i'm going to get back into it now...but i don't think it will be ready for a couple of days...

[NoDot]

Well, I'm writing something that should change the landscape against the Krom a tad: The Battle of M28-447, something that should become a landmark in the struggle versus the Krom.

PreludeIn the two months since the Krom made their entrance into the greater galaxy, the Tau'ri/Asgard Alliance (T/A-A) and the remanents of the Wraith and Reaver forces have been, more often than not, struck back again and again. The Krom have heavily "industrialized" several planets that they captured in their first attacks, and made a number of them epicenters for their expansions.

One particular planet, M28-447, located in a particularly pecarilous position, is under the dominion of the Vor'bal family and is currently the center of their personal war machine. The planet is under heavy guard and is the control center of the conquest of the nearby areas, and they're recently been building up a large fleet.

In the hopes of bashing back the Krom and their relentless advance, the T/A-A has decided to launch an attack against M28-447. To this end, they have not only assembled the Phoenix Battle Group, but also assembled the main segment of the Hades Battle Group. Finally, they requested the assisstance of the Triumverent.

The Triumverent found themselves in an odd posititon. M28-447 was previously a planet while was outside of the Triumverent's territory. However, the system's drift pattern placed it, for a brief period of time, inside the Triumverent's "Territory Bubble." For a very brief while, the Triumverent would be able to get to the system in a single hyperspacial jump! Not only that, but the Triumverent was not composed of fools; having a large Krom base of opperations so close to Triumverent territory was not a wise thing. The Triumverent accepted the T/A-A's offer for a joint attack against the planet, but with a condition: the T/A-A will not make a base on that planet. To ensure this, the Triumverent is sending a special, cloaked force to watch over the battle and make sure the T/A-A does not attempt to turn on them.

For Earth, victory would mean the turning of the tide, or so they hoped. For the Triumverent, is was protection. For the Vor'bal family, defeat would be the end of them, but they didn't plan on losing, they planned on striking!

[immhotep]

This is going to be interesting, i like the Krom, and triumverent and T/A-A new war. They seem more intelligent, the wraith wars were alot of large battles, but i think think war is going to be about strategy. This should be an interesting battle, are we going to turn?? i dont think we should chance it personally..

[cooky]

I've been trying to work up a battle for this thread for a couple weeks and just hit on an idea.

It is going to be a absolutelly brutal fight (imagine being outnumbered something like 10-1), and I hope works well as kind of a prequal for the wraith war. It'll take place prior to the start of the full-scale wraith/T/A-A war and will actually explain the reason for the Asgard coming to Pegasus as well as give a hint on the origin of one of the other enemies.

I'll probably need a week or so to work out the details, then I'll post it.

[immhotep]

Sure cooky, i do have that battle though, ill just find it..its ok if you want to do another prequal. This was the first one i wrote:
Orilla fury: chapter one

The Tauri have been a potent force in the Pegasus galaxy for twenty years, arriving in 2004 the Atlantis expedition experienced its first battle with the wraith not long after establishing themselves as the best hope for galactic freedom in the eyes of the Pegasus galaxy.
For twenty years many battles have been fought, sieges braved, planets won and lost, allies gained and crushed. Now in 2024, the day has come. The Tauri, humans from earth, armed with some of the most advanced technological cocktails to date are to go where no force has gone for over ten thousand years. In to all out war with the wraith.
The last major battle fought by earth was one which we lost, badly:

13 Years ago, in 2011 the wraith besieged a world which we and the Asgard had intended to become a new colony, it was once home to the Ancients and was intended to become a new research base for the Asgardian biological scientists. They were to research reverse cloning techniques, while we’re trying to perfect a biological weapon to eliminate the wraith. Knowing the Asgard, they would likely help perfect both technologies, thus the wraith made a pre-emptive strike. We sent our entire fleet, 7 Deadalus class ships, an aurora and 4 O’Neil’s to prevent the invasion, we totally underestimated the determined wraith, the fleet we opposed was large, 57 hive ships and over one hundred cruisers, this was one of the largest fleets the wraith had mustered since the alteran war. Even now we were a threat.
But there was no hope, the planet was wiped to the bedrock of all traces of human activity, and the Asgard base that had been present was left a pile of rubble. Fortunately the loss of life wasn’t too great, 7 out of 85 Asgard’s on the base were killed along with 36 out of 160 humans, while all other’s beamed to ships.
The fleet was not so lucky, 2 oniels and 1 deadali were the only survivors. This was nothing short of an embarrassing and crushing defeat.

This defeat only did one thing, it made the Asgard eager to help us in this war, up until this point the Asgard were content to aid us in dire situations, or to provide technological or political support in order to keep the wraith in check. Now, after that battle, the wraith had a new enemy, and we had the full military support of the most advanced ally we have ever known.
Six months after the defeat, Atlantis itself was besieged by a wraith force, 9 hive ships jumped out of hyperspace, the shields were raised and beacons sent out for aid. The oniels and the deadali were holding the line, until an entire fleet of state of the art Asgard warships emerged, they had come. The remaining wraith were destroyed, a new war had begun, a message sent.
The Atlantis base was transformed from an Ancient citadel in to a new Asgard/Tauri battle command centre; the fleet that had arrived used Asgard technology to build four space-docks. The Asgard ordered specifications and plans for a new Tauri fleet to be designed, which they would help build.
The Asgard did not have the full resources to fight the entire wraith fleet, as well as aid the many other races, including the Tauri, as well as to partake in their own endeavours. So the Asgard would provide technical, tactical and political assistance in the design and building of a new fleet that would in turn be able to destroy the wraith. In exchange for the space docks and this new alliance, the Atlantis database and permission to use the city as a tactical retreat and remote capital was given. Basically, the Asgard wanted us to design a fleet for them to help build in exchange for the ability to study and eventually design their own versions of Atlantis, which they could then use as mobile command centres throughout the galaxies that the Asgard as present within.





Orilla Fury: chapter two

After the Asgard arrived (2011) and finally committed themselves to the defeat of the wraith threat the Wraith became increasingly paranoid. Actions during the wraith civil war, several years ago had stirred up tensions and political struggles within the wraith which had been dormant since the time of the ancients. Now for the first time in ten thousand years the wraiths were scared; The Asgard had completely crushed the wraith in their first engagement and the Tauri had become a nuisance that couldn’t be tolerated.
In the seven years(2004 - 2011) prior the Tauri had destroyed much of the Wraith fleet, either directly or through intervention in wraith politics. The fear that once dominated this galaxy in to submission had evaporated. The Wraith was losing, and everyone knew it.
The end of the wraith civil war came (2014) and ironically was one of the primary causes of the wraith’s continued survival, and it was a battle of survival at this point. The wraith successfully ambushed and captured a Deadalus class ship on its Journey from Atlantis to earth. This capture was not thwarted, in fact it was a complete disaster for the AE, the SGC and the Asgard for this vessel tragically contained valuable data and specimens recently found in the Pegasus galaxy by the Asgard pertaining to their pre-clone genetic make up. It also contained enough information for the Wraith to extrapolate how the Asgard reproduce, cloning; the wraith developed a human cloning program within months of the capture; thousands of humans were genetically engineered as food for the wraith. Within two years (2016) culling of the Galaxy had declined and the wraith population was growing and thriving on this new source of food. The civil war ended. And from the ashes a new more powerful, more potent wraith threat emerged.
No longer concerned with the search for ever greater numbers of food to cull the wraith were able to grow and develop their society, their technology advanced significantly over the next few years. Wraith weapons, tactics, defences and engines all received a complete overhaul. The main development was the invention of wraith shields on hive and cruiser ships, these shields were not overly powerful, limited by the lacking energy produced by wraith generators however it did show that the wraith were evolving, learning and using their new found freedom given by cloning humans for unlimited food; and they were using it well.
The freedom was also shown by a marked increase in the military forces of the wraith, with the creation of a new breed of hive ships, with faster hyperdrives, shields, food production facilities on board the wraith queens in many cases chose not to upgrade their hives but to simply build new ones, the wraith hive ship count increased, not only were the old ones passed down to lower ranking Wraiths but a new generation of advanced ships were also in use.
In 10 years, the wraith fleet declined to less than 30 ships in the galaxy and then were reborn like a phoenix in to a new civilization where over 500 hive ships roamed the galaxy, more than a match for the current fleet of ships the Tauri/Asgard alliance currently had in service within Pegasus. (2019)

The reality of the wrath war became apparent, they needed to adapt just like the wraith had, and everyone knew it. The Asgard stepped up to the plate, in the most daring move to date they mobilised a fleet of ships, 20 Oniels and five Daniel Jackson’s moved in to the galaxy, they took up station around Lantia (2020). The Space docks they had positioned many years earlier had been producing ships of various sizes and class’s for several years. A fleet was growing around Lantia (20 ships per year, 5 per ship dock) but the ships were not yet a match for the wraith fleet, they were a potent force but they were not ready to see combat in battles that were uncertain in this time of upheaval. In 2021 the Asgard made a move that was uncharacteristic of them, they attacked a wraith fleet, 6 oniels were sent and they destroyed 13 hive ships, the battle was short and a clear sign that the Asgard were in this galaxy to stay, the Asgard sent a message to the wraith stating any further military action against their race would be considered an act of war and would be met with swift retribution. The Wraith sent a single hive ship to Lantia, they saw what the Asgard had in orbit, the fleet of oniels and the Space docks and knew what was coming.
The Asgard were building a fleet to destroy them, they now saw the wraith for the threat they were, the wraith defeated the ancients and if given the time they could easily do the same to the Asgard. They aided the Tauri, helped them build the new “Pegasus defence fleet”, although the Asgard would not give them weapons even now they did upgrade all hyperdrives and shields on the current ships and build a new fleet command centre in the Lantian System which was almost as grand as Atlantis. It was designed to be the newest Asgard stronghold, perhaps the last.
This defence centre was still under construction when the wraith's latest plan came in to existence, they made a daring attack on the Asgard, in 2022 a wraith fleet, nearly 60 hives attacked the Asgard, only the Asgard though, the 20 oniels battled the Wraith and won with ease (14 O’Neil’s survived but only 11 hives did).
Many saw the wraith's attack as a pointless exercise, perhaps only as cheap retaliation for the Asgard’s message the Asgard are superior in every way to the Wraith, this proved that. One success was the delay of the Asgard defence centre; its unshielded hull was destroyed by the explosions of three hives weapons fire.
Now in 2022 after the attack on the Asgard, the Fleet was almost ready, with its flagship; the Leviathan ready to launch from construction the fleet is ready to wage full war on the Wraith and their new armada. Let it begin.

[Davidtourniquet]

Nice one Immhotep, hmmmm new asgard ship classes. Time to make some more me thinks.
Just notice your centurion model, nice one.

[immhotep]

Its not actually mine, its a work in progress join project between myself and Aurora-gate.

[NoDot]

You guys are going to hate me for this, but here's the first two acts of the battle:

The Greater Enemy
Battle for M28-447
Sept. 2041

PreludeIn the two months since the Krom made their entrance into the greater galaxy, the Tau'ri/Asgard Alliance (T/A-A) and the remanents of the Wraith and Reaver forces have been, more often than not, struck back again and again. The Krom have heavily "industrialized" several planets that they captured in their first attacks, and made a number of them epicenters for their expansions.

One particular planet, M28-447, located in a particularly pecarilous position, is under the dominion of the Vor'bal family and is currently the center of their personal war machine. The planet is under heavy guard and is the control center of the conquest of the nearby areas, and they're recently been building up a large fleet.

In the hopes of bashing back the Krom and their relentless advance, the T/A-A has decided to launch an attack against M28-447. To this end, they have not only assembled the Phoenix Battle Group, but also assembled the main segment of the Hades Battle Group. Finally, they requested the assisstance of the Triumverent.

The Triumverent found themselves in an odd posititon. M28-447 was previously a planet while was outside of the Triumverent's territory. However, the system's drift pattern placed it, for a brief period of time, inside the Triumverent's "Territory Bubble." For a very brief while, the Triumverent would be able to get to the system in a single hyperspacial jump! Not only that, but the Triumverent was not composed of fools; having a large Krom base of opperations so close to Triumverent territory was not a wise thing. The Triumverent accepted the T/A-A's offer for a joint attack against the planet, but with a condition: the T/A-A will not make a base on that planet. To ensure this, the Triumverent is sending a special, cloaked force to watch over the battle and make sure the T/A-A does not attempt to turn on them.

For Earth, victory would mean the turning of the tide, or so they hoped. For the Triumverent, is was protection. For the Vor'bal family, defeat would be the end of them, but they didn't plan on losing, they planned on striking!

ForcesTau'ri/Asgard Alliance
- Phoenix Battle Group
--- 1 Leviathon Battleship
--- 12 Serpent-class Battlecruisers
--- 2 Aegis-class Carriers
--- 8 Henry Arnold-class Cruisers
--- 6 Unity-class Destroyers
--- 6 Tegelus-class Gunships
--- 3 Deadalus-class Battlecarrier
--- 4 Columbia-class Assault Carrier
--- 12 Alkesh Bombers
--- 180 F-302A Fighters (Combined Airwing)
- Hades Battle Group
--- The Cerberus battleship
--- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
--- 7 Aegis class carriers
--- 5 Henry arnolds cruiser
--- 24 unity destroyer
--- 8 tegelus gunship
--- 2 deadalus class battlecarrier
--- 4 Alkesh bombers
--- A combined airwing of 500 F-302a's and F/B-307
Triumverent Forces
- Combat Group
--- 10 Drone Carriers
--- 15 Fighter Carriers
--- 20 Gunboats
--- 10 Frigates
--- 10 Cruisers
--- 7 Battleships
- Hidden Group
--- 5 Drone Carriers
--- 4 Fighter Carriers
--- 3 Bomber Carriers
--- 10 Gunboats
--- 7 Frigates
--- 7 Cruisers
--- 5 Battleships
Krom Forces
- 200 Krom Gunships
- 150 Krom Frigates
- 150 Krom Cruisers
- 50 Krom Carriers
- 75 Krom Battleships
- 50 Krom Annihilators
- Unknown Variable

Act I: ArrivalThe three groups of ships sent the planet into minor disarray with their arrival, especially the Krom, whose Drone Carriers sped into battle launching all their drones in a powerful surprise attack which knocked out most of the ships in higher orbit. With their drones spent, the Drone Carriers fled to the back of the lines to recover from damage and heal from the hyperspacial radiation.

The Earth ships, seising the opportunity, oppened weapon batteries on the ship approaching to counter the threat. The Leviathon and the Cerberous led the spearhead.

The Triumverent forces, on the other hand, focused on another part of the planet, focusing their spearhead on what they believed to be a stratiegic location - above the Krom's shipyards. The Triumverent ships punched through the enemy forces in orbit and openned fire on the helpless ships on the surface. Even those who managed to raise their shields were sitting ducks for the Triumverent ships to shoot at.

Meanwhile, the Triumverent forces which were cloaked manuvered into position to observe the battle and its aftereffects.

And below the surface of the planet, Krom engineers worked with newfound speed.

Act II: BattleAbove the atmosphere, the Earth ships were proving to be a powerful force against the Krom ships. holding their own above the surface against the outnumbering defenders. Although unable to gain more ground over the planet, they didn't give back an inch to the defenders.

The Triumverent forces weren't fairing much better. They had been surrounded, although that doesn't mean much in a Triumverent-versus-Krom ship battle, but were able to take down several ships with each of their own before it was destroyed, preventing the Krom from using their full force against the T/A-A ships.

As this occurred, the cloaked Triumverent forces above the atmosphere monitered the communications between the Earth ships and the Krom on the ground. Very soon, they noticed something was afoot below the surface.

And below the surface, the engineers had put the final pieces into place.

I'll let you people have your own interpretations of these for now. :)

[Buba uognarf]

Really good people, i'll be working on my battle today...

[immhotep]

I like the battle NoDot, its really quite cool. Im going to be releasing a batte at some point in the near future, i dont know when but ill do one. I have to do essays and my Personal statefirst for UCAS first and then ill be posting things k.

Cant wait for the 3-? act of Nodots and buba's battle :)

[Buba uognarf]

I like the battle NoDot, its really quite cool. Im going to be releasing a batte at some point in the near future, i dont know when but ill do one. I have to do essays and my Personal statefirst for UCAS first and then ill be posting things k.

Cant wait for the 3-? act of Nodots and buba's battle :)

thanks, btw immhotep do you have an idea of what your battles going to be about?

[immhotep]

not really, might just be a quick skirmish or it might be a pure asgard/wraith battle.

[Buba uognarf]

cool, NoDot i was wondering if you'd like me to model any of the new enemy ships? i'm not the best modeler but i'd like to help and i'd like to work on something, if you don't want me to don't feel obliged to say yes:)

[immhotep]

If you planning to model things, try and probduce a battle scene when your done, you can get my leviathon off the warehouse and the serpent class is on there too.
Im going to work on my battle, ive gained inspiration :D

[Buba uognarf]

If you planning to model things, try and probduce a battle scene when your done, you can get my leviathon off the warehouse and the serpent class is on there too.

oh k, i need to know what they look like first...it's a shame no one is able to model wraith ships though..

would you be able to post a link for the serpent class i can't find it:S

i have several battles brewing in my head also:D...

[immhotep]

This battles a bit of fun, and is a basic Asgard/Wraith relationship summery.

Prelude: (2026)

The Asgard race has been part in the wars with the goauld, the replicators, the ori and now the wraith as an ally of the Earth humans. The Asgard have built us a fleet of ships and equiped them with the most advanced technolgoy avalable, they have even leant their dwiinling population as engineers on many of our ships.
As such the Asgard are the closest and most valuble ally of Earth, and the wraith know this. The wraith and the Asgard are two races that are at opposite ends of the spectrum; one a dying race of a few thousand, relying on powerfull automated warships to rule and enforce thier laws. The other a multi billion strong growing civilzation who use massive fleets to enslave any who oppose them.

The wraith and the Asgard also have another thing in common, each has some deep connection to the Tauri, the asgard believe we are their successors in the role of galactic peacekeepers. The wraith believe we seek to avenge the destruction of our anscestors, the Lantians , and will stop at nothing to see the wraith exterminated.

The triangle that ha developed between these three races is about to climax, the Asgard have successfull set up a new city in the Pegasus galaxy, Not valhalla but the first full city in another galaxy for Eons, this is the first time in millenia the Asgard popualtion has expanded. It is a turning point for thier race, after finding a catalouge of the minds of 20,000 stored asgard consciousness, who were imprisioned by the replicators for study and research purposes they have suddenly had an influx of population; knowing the failures of the clone bodys they inhabit the Asgard have chose that instead of revive them in new bodies they will instead create the largest living computer in history, a virtual word where the stored minds can live and thrive away from the presures of the outside world, conduct research and develop new ideas on behalf of the asgard race. (Ideas which can be transmitted to the outside world and implemented)

In this city they have found a means to create the ultimate research facility. The Wraith however have recently found intel pertaining to this base, and wish to either infiltrate or destroy this base at all costs.


Act 1: arrival + forces

Wraith:
48 upgraded hives
98 cruisers
5000 darts

Asgard:
24 Oniels
40 Valkyrie
6 Hammond

The wraith fleet arived earlier than expected and opened with a furious volley of fire in to the Asgard armarda that had been gathered, its did nothing to the oniels or hammond class's but took out a couple of the Valkyrie class vessels. The asgard's defense of the Colony was impressive, 30% of the entire asgard fleet had come, this was the largest fleet of Asgard vessels ever mustered in one place.


Act 2:

The 37 Valkyries class ships were ordered to attack enmasse the wraith cruiser fleet in tow, they used thier advanced hyperdrives to jump directly in to the centre, and with shields at maximum they used their weapons array to create a circle or wraith debris all around.
The Valkyrie class were a good match, although outnumbers two to one they were fighting well, and after an impressive battle the cruiser fleet was defeated by the asgard newest ship class.
the battle wasnt a success thoguh, only 9 Valkyries remained and therefore it was left to the Hammond and Oniel class vessels to take on almost 50 hives alone.


Act 3:

The Asgard fleet was more than a match for the Wraith fleet, they had once again underestimated what defences the Asgard would put in place to defend thier small number of bases. The Asgard had 30 Advanced warships and the wraith had sent just 50 upgraded hives.
Asgard shield technology matched that of the ancient and Asgard weapons are able to take down wriath shields in 1 hit. This battle was going to be easy.
The Asgard opened fire, the hail of a combined fleet output of 216 asgard energy bolts per minute the wraith fleet were literally torn to shreds. The Wraith fired back during the reload times and launched a fleet of dart at balistic speeds which hit the shields of the asgard like water agaisnt rock. The shields of the asgard ships were at 60% after 6minutes of fire from 50 wraith vessels.
The wraith however had been given their chance and blew it, after 6 minutes only 14 wraith hives remained, with 0 cruisers and 0 darts. The Asgard sent a message, ordering the Surrender of the Wraith fleet present or face extermination.
The Wraith chose to try and run, 3 ships got a away but the oniels quickly dispatched the other 11 craft during their escape.


Aftermath:

This simply demonstrated how underestimated the Asgard are in the war with the Wraith, their oniel and hammon class ships can defeat a wraith fleet on almost any scale, if the resources and numbers are with them. Upgraded wirath hives and cruisers are no problem, and therefore the wraith now know that if the Asgard are present then any battle, even with thier new found technological evolvution will be a difficult one.


Theres some good old fashioned Asgard ass whooping :D

[Buba uognarf]

It's good but i think the asgard are a tad overpowered, i doubt a single shot could take down a wraith shield it would take far more than that unless their weapons are dozens more powerful than that of the wraith (which in my opinion is ridiculas seeing as wraith energy weapons are incredably powerful)...

we shouldn't overpower the asgard or underpower the wraith, i also think that after 12 minutes of fire the asgard shields would either be down or completely depleted probably the latter, in the siege a few hives and several cruisers attempting to board (so not going all out) were able to deplete the deadalus's shields to less than 20% in about 1min, a single crippled hive at 50% power could do it in about 3 'No Mans Land'...

sorry about that but like you are very fond of the asgard as i am of the wraith and i don't think we should should belittle them i agree that the wraith would have been beaten but i don't think that the asgard are that far ahead of the wraith to be able to take them down in a few hits...

one last thing, why does no one use my predator class wraith ship?:(

[immhotep]

Yeah ok ill edit that, i will put it at 5 minutes of fire instead of 12.
The wraith fleet was 48, and the Oniel fleet was 24, the Asgard are totally capable of taking out 2 hives per Oniel, class. Add to this that the hammond class's are about as advanced as the Oniel and you have evidence that the Wraith would have been beaten either way.
Also wraith shields are very weak, they are about as strong as the goauld ( older kind not anubis) and the Asgard were able to take those down very easily. Given that everyone seems to think the Asgard uses Ion cannons which are related in some way to the tollan Ion cannon just adapted and more powerful i belive that it would only take 1/2 shots to take a hives shields down, and then 6-8 more to take the entire ship out.
If you add the Oniels individual power to their combined outpost as a fleet, (216 shots per minute, and thats only at a minimal rate of 1 shot per minute, and we have seen them fire at 4/5 per minute) then you have massive amount of very powerfull weapons being aimed at a very undershielded wraith concentration.

combine this with the Oniels/ Asgard very advanced shields and you would get a similer result.

Also i will try and use the preditor soon.

PS this isnt my finest piece of work but im ill so forgive me!

[Buba uognarf]

Yeah ok ill edit that, i will put it at 5 minutes of fire instead of 12.
The wraith fleet was 48, and the Oniel fleet was 24, the Asgard are totally capable of taking out 2 hives per Oniel, class. Add to this that the hammond class's are about as advanced as the Oniel and you have evidence that the Wraith would have been beaten either way.
Also wraith shields are very weak, they are about as strong as the goauld ( older kind not anubis) and the Asgard were able to take those down very easily. Given that everyone seems to think the Asgard uses Ion cannons which are related in some way to the tollan Ion cannon just adapted and more powerful i belive that it would only take 1/2 shots to take a hives shields down, and then 6-8 more to take the entire ship out.
If you add the Oniels individual power to their combined outpost as a fleet, (216 shots per minute, and thats only at a minimal rate of 1 shot per minute, and we have seen them fire at 4/5 per minute) then you have massive amount of very powerfull weapons being aimed at a very undershielded wraith concentration.

combine this with the Oniels/ Asgard very advanced shields and you would get a similer result.

Also i will try and use the preditor soon.

PS this isnt my finest piece of work but im ill so forgive me!

i'm not trying to have a go i'm just voicing my opinions, and i don't think it's bad i just disagree with some of it...

i agree the wraith would have been defeated, i don't think wraith shields would be so weak as to be taken down in a couple of shots they are afterall shoddy reverse engineared asgard shields i'd put them above goa'uld shields (plus the wraith are more advanced than the goa'uld anyway the only reason they have no shields on their ships is because they're useless against drones + lantian weapons)...

if it were me i'd put up the rate of fire on the asgard weapons and increase wraith shield power to compensate...

sorry about this i don't want to argue and you're ill so this will be my last point on the matter, wraith hives probably have more raw firepower than almost any other ship we've seen...due to not only individual weapons strength which probably isn't that much weaker than asgard weapons and their insane rate of fire....

anyways sorry bout that...hope you get better soon:)

[immhotep]

i dont mind you having a go :) it makes things fun :D
The asgard weapons are incredible power adn their shields are too; the Asgard have very powerfull weapons and the wraith have powerfull fast weapons. So the wraith have the high rate of fire but to compensate the Asgard have seriously powerfull shields to take a battering in the interrim between them hitting back with thier weapons and blasting the wraith. now if your saying that the Asgard have higher rates of fire, lets say 3 per minute, that 648 bolts of energy per minute, firing at 48 hives; that 13 bolts per ship, per minute of Asgard weaponry. for 6 minutes that nearly 80 bolts. Even with shields of anubis hatak grade 80 energy bolts from the Asgard would turn a wraith hive in to stardust.

The wraith returning fire with say 180 shots per minute of hatak strength per hive. Against Asgard shields at 1005 combined with the power output of 4 Ion generators (which about 20% of the ZPM each) while the Asgard would have casulties ( 13 Oniels were destroyed) the Asgard would still win, because thier shield technolgoy i just so powerfull.

[Buba uognarf]

i meant to say not having a go:D...i can see where you're coming from, but i reckon wraith weapons are several times that of the goa'uld...

anyways it's the outcome that matters...

to put this to rest maybe we should come up with some figues for weaponary and shields e.g how many shots it can take so we don't disagree as much?

[immhotep]

Ok:

From Upgraded Hive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 8600
Valhalla = 8000
Hammond = 2800
Oniel = 2600
Leviathon Battleship = 1480
Valkyrie = 1200
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 680
Aegis-class Carriers = 720
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240
Unity-class Destroyers = 180
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 680
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 600
Alkesh bomber = 80

*the upgraded hive 180 shots per minute (6 per cannon)

From deadalus class Main rail gun* fire it take this many shots to Take down these wraith ships:

Superhive = 12000
upgraded hive = 4000
preditor = 3200
Hive = 2400
upgraded cruiser = 1200
Cruiser = 800
Transport ship = 18
Dart = 1

*80 shots per minute per gun

From Oniel class Asgard weapons* it takes this many energy bolts to take out wraith vessels:

Superhive = 400
upgraded hive = 60
preditor = 50
Hive = 40
upgraded cruiser = 8
Cruiser = 6
Transport ship = 1
Dart = 0.2

*18 bolts per minute

This is like just a quick thing i typed up, accurate in any way?

[NoDot]

OK, here's all of it. Expect the specs for the ship after the next battle.

The Greater Enemy
Battle for M28-447
Sept. 2041

PreludeIn the two months since the Krom made their entrance into the greater galaxy, the Tau'ri/Asgard Alliance (T/A-A) and the remanents of the Wraith and Reaver forces have been, more often than not, struck back again and again. The Krom have heavily "industrialized" several planets that they captured in their first attacks, and made a number of them epicenters for their expansions.

One particular planet, M28-447, located in a particularly pecarilous position, is under the dominion of the Vor'bal family and is currently the center of their personal war machine. The planet is under heavy guard and is the control center of the conquest of the nearby areas, and they're recently been building up a large fleet.

In the hopes of bashing back the Krom and their relentless advance, the T/A-A has decided to launch an attack against M28-447. To this end, they have not only assembled the Phoenix Battle Group, but also assembled the main segment of the Hades Battle Group. Finally, they requested the assisstance of the Triumverent.

The Triumverent found themselves in an odd posititon. M28-447 was previously a planet while was outside of the Triumverent's territory. However, the system's drift pattern placed it, for a brief period of time, inside the Triumverent's "Territory Bubble." For a very brief while, the Triumverent would be able to get to the system in a single hyperspacial jump! Not only that, but the Triumverent was not composed of fools; having a large Krom base of opperations so close to Triumverent territory was not a wise thing. The Triumverent accepted the T/A-A's offer for a joint attack against the planet, but with a condition: the T/A-A will not make a base on that planet. To ensure this, the Triumverent is sending a special, cloaked force to watch over the battle and make sure the T/A-A does not attempt to turn on them.

For Earth, victory would mean the turning of the tide, or so they hoped. For the Triumverent, is was protection. For the Vor'bal family, defeat would be the end of them, but they didn't plan on losing, they planned on striking!

ForcesTau'ri/Asgard Alliance
- Phoenix Battle Group
--- 1 Leviathon Battleship
--- 12 Serpent-class Battlecruisers
--- 2 Aegis-class Carriers
--- 8 Henry Arnold-class Cruisers
--- 6 Unity-class Destroyers
--- 6 Tegelus-class Gunships
--- 3 Deadalus-class Battlecarrier
--- 4 Columbia-class Assault Carrier
--- 12 Alkesh Bombers
--- 180 F-302A Fighters (Combined Airwing)
- Hades Battle Group
--- The Cerberus battleship
--- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
--- 7 Aegis class carriers
--- 5 Henry arnolds cruiser
--- 24 unity destroyer
--- 8 tegelus gunship
--- 2 deadalus class battlecarrier
--- 4 Alkesh bombers
--- A combined airwing of 500 F-302a's and F/B-307
Triumverent Forces
- Combat Group
--- 10 Drone Carriers
--- 15 Fighter Carriers
--- 20 Gunboats
--- 10 Frigates
--- 10 Cruisers
--- 7 Battleships
- Hidden Group
--- 5 Drone Carriers
--- 4 Fighter Carriers
--- 3 Bomber Carriers
--- 10 Gunboats
--- 7 Frigates
--- 7 Cruisers
--- 5 Battleships
Krom Forces
- 200 Krom Gunships
- 150 Krom Frigates
- 150 Krom Cruisers
- 50 Krom Carriers
- 75 Krom Battleships
- 50 Krom Annihilators
- Unknown Variable

Act I: ArrivalThe three groups of ships sent the planet into minor disarray with their arrival, especially the Krom, whose Drone Carriers sped into battle launching all their drones in a powerful surprise attack which knocked out most of the ships in higher orbit. With their drones spent, the Drone Carriers fled to the back of the lines to recover from damage and heal from the hyperspacial radiation.

The Earth ships, seising the opportunity, oppened weapon batteries on the ship approaching to counter the threat. The Leviathon and the Cerberous led the spearhead.

The Triumverent forces, on the other hand, focused on another part of the planet, focusing their spearhead on what they believed to be a stratiegic location - above the Krom's shipyards. The Triumverent ships punched through the enemy forces in orbit and openned fire on the helpless ships on the surface. Even those who managed to raise their shields were sitting ducks for the Triumverent ships to shoot at.

Meanwhile, the Triumverent forces which were cloaked manuvered into position to observe the battle and its aftereffects.

And below the surface of the planet, Krom engineers worked with newfound speed.

Act II: BattleAbove the atmosphere, the Earth ships were proving to be a powerful force against the Krom ships. holding their own above the surface against the outnumbering defenders. Although unable to gain more ground over the planet, they didn't give back an inch to the defenders.

The Triumverent forces weren't fairing much better. They had been surrounded, although that doesn't mean much in a Triumverent-versus-Krom ship battle, but were able to take down several ships with each of their own before it was destroyed, preventing the Krom from using their full force against the T/A-A ships.

As this occurred, the cloaked Triumverent forces above the atmosphere monitered the communications between the Earth ships and the Krom on the ground. Very soon, they noticed something was afoot below the surface.

And below the surface, the engineers had put the final pieces into place.

Act III: Plot TwistThe cloaked forces watched the defeat in absolute horror. The small (smaller than a Krom Battleship) ship design floated to the surface with easy from its underwater hanger and took to the skies, making a bee-line for the Triumverent ships.

The powerful ship openned its cannons on the unsuspecting Triumverent ships, destroying the remaining forces. The ships that had been encircling the Triumverent forces broke up and headed towards the T/A-A ships.

The cloaked Triumverent forces took the opportunity to surprise the Krom. They emerged from their cloakes and struck the Krom forces from behind their own lines which were encircling the T/A-A. They sent a message to the T/A-A ships to scram while they held off the Krom forces. With the unknown Krom ship approaching, the T/A-A forces did as suggested and retreated. The Triumverent held off the Krom long enough for them to enter hyperspace, and then chose to flee and cloak themselves.

AftermathThe battle had been close, and it favored the unexpected alliance, but the new Krom ship, which would later be called the Krom "ZPE Ship" for its power source, proved to be the deciding factor and tipped the balance towards the Krom forces.

For the T/A-A, the battle proved to be a minor disaster. They failed to rid the planet of the Krom, and they were forced to retreat. For the Triumverent, the issue was far worse. They had not only lost a number of forces, but also knew that a power Krom ship was in close proximity to their own territory.

For the Vor'bal family, their private weapon proved to be a massive sucess, and they planned on exploiting it!

[Buba uognarf]

Ok:

From Upgraded Hive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 8600
Valhalla = 8000
Hammond = 2800
Oniel = 2600
Leviathon Battleship = 1480
Valkyrie = 1200
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 680
Aegis-class Carriers = 720
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240
Unity-class Destroyers = 180
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 680
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 600
Alkesh bomber = 80

*the upgraded hive 180 shots per minute (6 per cannon)

From deadalus class Main rail gun* fire it take this many shots to Take down these wraith ships:

Superhive = 12000
upgraded hive = 4000
preditor = 3200
Hive = 2400
upgraded cruiser = 1200
Cruiser = 800
Transport ship = 18
Dart = 1

*80 shots per minute per gun

From Oniel class Asgard weapons* it takes this many energy bolts to take out wraith vessels:

Superhive = 400
upgraded hive = 60
preditor = 50
Hive = 40
upgraded cruiser = 8
Cruiser = 6
Transport ship = 1
Dart = 0.2

*18 bolts per minute

This is like just a quick thing i typed up, accurate in any way?

I'll do what i think it would be then we can try and meet a compramise does that sound alright?


From Upgraded Hive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 150,000 (75,000)
Valhalla = 100,000 (50,000)
Hammond = 2800 (1180)
Oniel = 2600 (1000)
Leviathon Battleship = 1480 (720)
Valkyrie = 1200 (600)
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 680 (340)
Aegis-class Carriers = 720 (360)
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240 (120)
Unity-class Destroyers = 180 (90)
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160 (80)
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 680 (240)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 600 (200)
Alkesh bomber = 1 (1)

*the upgraded hive 300 shots per minute ( 5 per sec) this figue is taken form episodes like misbegotten and Siege *lowest power setting*

*highest setting* (seen in the hive when the hives destroyed each other in a couple of dozen shots) 180 shots a minute, the number in brackets indicates the highest power setting...

From SuperHive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 15,000 (7500) (3 hours)
Valhalla = 12,000 (6000) (2 hours)
Hammond = 2800 (1180) (20 second)
Oniel = 2600 (1000) (15 seconds)
Leviathon Battleship = 1480 (720) (10 seconds)
Valkyrie = 1200 (600) (8 seconds)
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 680 (340) (4 seconds)
Aegis-class Carriers = 720 (360) (5 seconds)
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240 (120) (2 seconds)
Unity-class Destroyers = 180 (90) (1 second)
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160 (80) (1 second)
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 680 (240) (4 seconds)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 600 (200) (3 seconds)
Alkesh bomber = 1 (1) (-)

*the Super hive 1500 shots per minute ( 25 per sec) it has 5 times the firepower of a hive *lowest power setting*

*highest setting* (seen in the hive when the hives destroyed each other in a couple of dozen shots) 900 shots a minute, the number in brackets indicates the highest power setting...

*the second bracket indicates the time the shield dampening weapon takes to bring down shields + ships*


From deadalus class *Main rail guns* fire it take this many shots to Take down these wraith ships: (i've put these figues as veyr high because i can't see wraith ships being taken down by rail guns unless in weak spots like dart bays)

Superhive = 300,000
upgraded hive = 44,000
preditor = 32,000
Hive = 30,000
upgraded cruiser = 8000
Cruiser = 6000
Transport ship = 1800
Dart = 1


From our most powerful standard nukes it takes this many shots to Take down these wraith ships:

Superhive = 600 (this is because the armor was designed to defend against nukes and other powerful weapons)
upgraded hive = 20
preditor = 15
Hive = 6
upgraded cruiser = 7
Cruiser = 3
Transport ship = 3
Dart = 1

*80 shots per minute*
From *Leviathon weapons* it takes this many energy bolts to take out wraith vessels:

Superhive = 900 (high because it's supposed to be nigh unstoppable)
upgraded hive = 90
preditor = 70
Hive = 40
upgraded cruiser = 15
Cruiser = 7
Transport ship = 3
Dart = 1


*80 shots per minute*
From Oniel class *Asgard weapons* it takes this many energy bolts to take out wraith vessels:

Superhive = 600 (high because it's supposed to be nigh unstoppable)
upgraded hive = 60
preditor = 50
Hive = 30
upgraded cruiser = 8
Cruiser = 5
Transport ship = 1/2
Dart = 1


these are my figues i think we should discuss this till we're both happy with it other people are welcome to voice their opinions aswell...

[immhotep]

According to your figures our most powerfull warship, the leviathon, could only handle 5 minutes 1/1 with a upgraded hive, if we are fighting more than 1 hive and in some battles the levaithon has gone up agaisnt the combined fire of nearly 60 hives; we couldnt win a war with those stats.
If the leviathon couldnt keep up with weapons fire then every other ship would be made void.

I dont know how to comprimise, 5 shots per second just is too much for our fleet to have survived this long in the war. either our shields have to be stronger or wraith weapons weaker. The figures have to go down in some way..

[Buba uognarf]

According to your figures our most powerfull warship, the leviathon, could only handle 5 minutes 1/1 with a upgraded hive, if we are fighting more than 1 hive and in some battles the levaithon has gone up agaisnt the combined fire of nearly 60 hives; we couldnt win a war with those stats.
If the leviathon couldnt keep up with weapons fire then every other ship would be made void.

I dont know how to comprimise, 5 shots per second just is too much for our fleet to have survived this long in the war. either our shields have to be stronger or wraith weapons weaker. The figures have to go down in some way..


the thing is i took those figues directly from the show i've seen hives fire that fast...and you need to remember that according to my figues an upgraded hive would be destroy in about a minute by our most powerful ship

alright is there anything you else you want to change??? i don't mind putting up the numbers for some ships or down:)...tell me what exactly you think should change an i will change the figures or you could change them yourself and i can voice my opinions...

nice battle NoDot, do you want me to try any modeling for you?

[immhotep]

Just put them all up a little bit; and make the wraith shots a bit less powerful i geuss; the smaller ships are fine, because they are not meant to fight hives but the deadalus, leviathon, serpent and columbia classes need more resiliance ( add about 400 to each as a rough estimate)

[Buba uognarf]

From Upgraded Hive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 150,000 (75,000)
Valhalla = 100,000 (50,000)
Hammond = 2800 (1180)
Oniel = 2600 (1000)
Leviathon Battleship = 1600 (1000)
Valkyrie = 1200 (600)
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 880 (540)
Aegis-class Carriers = 820 (560)
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240 (120)
Unity-class Destroyers = 180 (90)
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160 (80)
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 1000 (440)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 950 (500)
Alkesh bomber = 1 (1)

*the upgraded hive 300 shots per minute ( 5 per sec) this figue is taken form episodes like misbegotten and Siege *lowest power setting*

*highest setting* (seen in the hive when the hives destroyed each other in a couple of dozen shots) 180 shots a minute, the number in brackets indicates the highest power setting...

From SuperHive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 15,000 (7500) (3 hours)
Valhalla = 12,000 (6000) (2 hours)
Hammond = 2800 (1180) (20 second)
Oniel = 2600 (1000) (15 seconds)
Leviathon Battleship = 1480 (720) (10 seconds)
Valkyrie = 1200 (600) (8 seconds)
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 680 (340) (4 seconds)
Aegis-class Carriers = 720 (360) (5 seconds)
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240 (120) (2 seconds)
Unity-class Destroyers = 180 (90) (1 second)
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160 (80) (1 second)
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 680 (240) (4 seconds)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 600 (200) (3 seconds)
Alkesh bomber = 1 (1) (-)

*the Super hive 1500 shots per minute ( 25 per sec) it has 5 times the firepower of a hive *lowest power setting*

*highest setting* (seen in the hive when the hives destroyed each other in a couple of dozen shots) 900 shots a minute, the number in brackets indicates the highest power setting...

*the second bracket indicates the time the shield dampening weapon takes to bring down shields + ships*


that better?

[immhotep]

That is better yes.

[Buba uognarf]

That is better yes.

ok i'll put it all together and it can be offical?



From Upgraded Hive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 150,000 (75,000)
Valhalla = 100,000 (50,000)
Hammond = 2800 (1180)
Oniel = 2600 (1000)
Leviathon Battleship = 1600 (1000)
Valkyrie = 1200 (600)
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 880 (540)
Aegis-class Carriers = 820 (560)
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240 (120)
Unity-class Destroyers = 180 (90)
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160 (80)
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 1000 (440)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 950 (500)
Alkesh bomber = 1 (1)

Reaper hive ship = 200 (100)
V-type battle ship = 60 (30)
Destroyer = 10 (4)

*the upgraded hive 300 shots per minute ( 5 per sec) this figue is taken form episodes like misbegotten and Siege *lowest power setting*

*highest setting* (seen in the hive when the hives destroyed each other in a couple of dozen shots) 180 shots a minute (3 per sec), the number in brackets indicates the highest power setting...

From SuperHive ship* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's:

Atlanis = 15,000 (7500) (3 hours)
Valhalla = 12,000 (6000) (2 hours)
Hammond = 2800 (1180) (20 second)
Oniel = 2600 (1000) (15 seconds)
Leviathon Battleship = 1480 (720) (10 seconds)
Valkyrie = 1200 (600) (8 seconds)
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 680 (340) (4 seconds)
Aegis-class Carriers = 720 (360) (5 seconds)
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240 (120) (2 seconds)
Unity-class Destroyers = 180 (90) (1 second)
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160 (80) (1 second)
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 680 (240) (4 seconds)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 600 (200) (3 seconds)
Alkesh bomber = 1 (1) (-)

Reaper hive ship = 200 (100)
V-type battle ship = 60 (30)
Destroyer = 10 (4)

*the Super hive 1500 shots per minute per ship it can targe 4 ships seperately( 25 per sec) it has 5 times the firepower of a hive *lowest power setting*

*highest setting* (seen in the hive when the hives destroyed each other in a couple of dozen shots) 900 shots a minute per ship, the number in brackets indicates the highest power setting...

*the second bracket indicates the time the shield dampening weapon takes to bring down shields + ships*

*if surrounded the superhive can target 4 seperate ships and fire with all 1500 shots on each of them


From deadalus class *Main rail guns* fire it take this many shots to Take down these wraith ships with concentrated fire on a specific area: (i've put these figues as very high because i can't see wraith ships being taken down by rail guns unless in weak spots like dart bays)

Superhive = 1,000,000
upgraded hive = 44,000
preditor = 32,000
Hive = 30,000
upgraded cruiser = 8000
Cruiser = 6000
Transport ship = 1800
Dart = 1

Reaper hive ship = 100,000
V-type battle ship = 50,000
Destroyer = 5000

Wraith Superstation = 700,000
Wraith spider/ mining station = 150,000
Wraith construction facility = 90,000
Wraith oribital defense station = (500) cannot be destroyed until shields connection is down
Each main rail gun/coil gun can fire about 1000 shots a minute...

From our most powerful standard nukes it takes this many shots to Take down these wraith ships:

Superhive = 800 (this is because the armor was designed to defend against nukes and other powerful weapons)
upgraded hive = 20
preditor = 15
Hive = 6
upgraded cruiser = 7
Cruiser = 3
Transport ship = 3
Dart = 1

Wraith Superstation = 500
Wraith spider/ mining station = 90
Wraith construction facility = 70
Wraith oribital defense station = (1) cannot be destroyed until shields connection is down

Reaper hive ship = 30
V-type battle ship = 20
Destroyer = 3

*70 shots per minute*
From *Leviathon weapons* it takes this many energy bolts to take out wraith vessels:

Superhive = 900 (high because it's supposed to be nigh unstoppable)
upgraded hive = 90
preditor = 70
Hive = 40
upgraded cruiser = 15
Cruiser = 7
Transport ship = 3
Dart = 1

Wraith Superstation = 600
Wraith spider/ mining station = 180
Wraith construction facility = 110
Wraith oribital defense station = (1/2) cannot be destroyed until shields connection is down

Reaper hive ship = 125
V-type battle ship = 30
Destroyer = 15


*80 shots per minute*
From Oniel class *Asgard weapons* it takes this many energy bolts to take out wraith vessels:

Superhive = 720 (high because it's supposed to be nigh unstoppable)
upgraded hive = 70
preditor = 60
Hive = 30
upgraded cruiser = 8
Cruiser = 5
Transport ship = 1/2
Dart = 1

Wraith Superstation = 550
Wraith spider/ mining station = 150
Wraith construction facility = 90
Wraith oribital defense station = (1/2) cannot be destroyed until shields connection is down

Reaper hive ship = 90
V-type battle ship = 20
Destroyer = 10

From *Reaper Hive ship in service 2030-onwards* weapons fire it takes these number shots to take down shields and hull for the below class's of alliance and wraith ships:

Atlanis = 150,000 (75,000) (5000)
Valhalla = 100,000 (50,000) (3500)
Hammond = 2800 (1180) (60)
Oniel = 2600 (1000) (55)
Leviathon Battleship = 1600 (1000) (45)
Valkyrie = 1200 (600) (35)
Serpent-class Battlecruisers = 880 (540) (30)
Aegis-class Carriers = 820 (560) (25)
Henry Arnold-class Cruisers = 240 (120) (8)
Unity-class Destroyers = 180 (90) (6)
Tegelus-class Gunships = 160 (80) (6)
Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 950 (440) (27)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 1050 (500) (28)
Alkesh bomber = 1 (1) (1)

Superhive = 6000 (3200) (150)
upgraded hive = 190 (110)(20)
preditor = 160 (75)(15)
Hive = 120 (45)(12)
upgraded cruiser = 60 (50)(4/5)
Cruiser = 40 (7)(3/4)
Transport ship = 6/7 (2/3)(2/3)
Dart = 1 (1) (1)

Wraith Superstation = 3000 (1500)
Wraith spider/ mining station = 1500(750)
Wraith construction facility = 600(300)
Wraith oribital defense station = (1/2) cannot be destroyed until shields connection is down

*the Reaper hive hive 450 shots per minute ( 7-8 per sec) this figue is taken form episodes like *lowest power setting*

*highest setting* 270 shots a minute (4-5 per sec), the number in brackets indicates the highest power setting...

*Reaper beams* 30 shots a minute number in second brackets shows how many hits each of the ships can take before being destroyed (though by that time due to the nature of the weapon most systems would be disabled)...

it can fire every 2 seconds and when it fires it fires for a 1 second burst, so a 1 second gap between blasts...

[ZakeD]

Deadalus-class Battlecarrier = 1000 (440)
Columbia-class Assault Carrier = 950 (500)

I usually just lurk around this thread and read all the cool battles..but shouldn't the Columbias shields be more powerful than the Daedalus'?

[Buba uognarf]

I usually just lurk around this thread and read all the cool battles..but shouldn't the Columbias shields be more powerful than the Daedalus'?

I kept to immhoteps ratios mostly:)...but if you think it should be the other way round then i'll change it...anything else you disagree with?

edit: i've added the Reaper ships to the stats and i'll be redoing their designs soon, tell me what you think and bear in mind the Reapers are supposed to be very powerful...

[immhotep]

Looks good, I understand why we write big battles now, if we didnt then we couldnt fight long enough to win...We need large numbers, and special tactics to diffuse the effects of so much firepower. but its usefull to have the figures.

[ZakeD]

Isnt there a page on here with stats for all the ships used in the gw fleet?

[immhotep]

There should be; i remember the last ones around page 40, it was a while back, the whole list + specs is abotu 6 full psots long, i want to post the full specs + any recent modifications + images/models + other stuff somewhere but i dont know where.
A full comprehensive guide to the fleet, but it will take a while to prepare and i have other concerns like coarsework atm.

[ZakeD]

Ahh, okay. I just had a cool thought. With all the battles you guys do..it would be kinda cool if you made this into a game..kinda..maybe. o_o

[Buba uognarf]

thats an intresting idea ZakeD but i wouldn't know how to do it:s...but there are members on this forum that could we'd have to talk to them...

as for the ships in the fleet i have all the enemy specs on my computer if you're interested or need them...

[immhotep]

Im hoping to do just that ZakeD, im in the process of tracking down as many awesome modellers and programmers as i can to see if they would be interested.

[Buba uognarf]

Im hoping to do just that ZakeD, im in the process of tracking down as many awesome modellers and programmers as i can to see if they would be interested.

Battara may be able to do it, he's been doing his own games for a while now they use sprites...it could be quite easily adapted to our war i think...

[ZakeD]

Battara may be able to do it, he's been doing his own games for a while now they use sprites...it could be quite easily adapted to our war i think...

Not that kinda game..I meant like..a simple game that could be played in a forum..or something. I have friends that could make the kind of game you're talking about. I also has some experience making them.

[immhotep]

Give me a bit of time, and ill try and sort something out, everyone whos invovled with the thread can be involved on some level im sure, im going to talk to battera, but i dont know him so..

[Buba uognarf]

Give me a bit of time, and ill try and sort something out, everyone whos invovled with the thread can be involved on some level im sure, im going to talk to battera, but i dont know him so..

he may not have time seeing as he has his own projects on, i'd be happy to help with the story and stat lines for some of the ships...


Not that kinda game..I meant like..a simple game that could be played in a forum..or something. I have friends that could make the kind of game you're talking about. I also has some experience making them.

could you elaborate please:)?

[ZakeD]

he may not have time seeing as he has his own projects on, i'd be happy to help with the story and stat lines for some of the ships...



could you elaborate please:)?

On what? The simple game thinger..? I dunno. I figured it'd be cool if someone came up with a text based game we could play in the forum..or something. o_0

As for the video games..if anyone has the patience, there is a cool program called elysium diamond which lets you make games that can have many players playing at the same time. I made a small game on it once. It's really easy. It would just require sprite making.

[Buba uognarf]

On what? The simple game thinger..? I dunno. I figured it'd be cool if someone came up with a text based game we could play in the forum..or something. o_0

As for the video games..if anyone has the patience, there is a cool program called elysium diamond which lets you make games that can have many players playing at the same time. I made a small game on it once. It's really easy. It would just require sprite making.

oh right, sorry for being an idiot but, how would this text game be played?

and battera and the people on the ship sprites thread would have many of the ships needed and the skills to create more...

[immhotep]

Is anyone a regular poster on the sprites thread, because im not, i feel ok asking for favours here and on OSDT but over there ive never posted (cant explain why)

[Buba uognarf]

i've posted a few times, but i'm not a regular poster....if you tell me what you want me to ask i don't mind asking:D

[NoDot]

If it's sprites or just 2D, then something like Flash or similar could do just fine for playing out battles.

[edit] And Buba, thanks but unless you're really good at organic armour, I'd suggest you work on something easier.

[immhotep]

2D is not much better than RPG in all honesty, in fact its just harder and less detailed...3D is where i want to aim.

I have PM'd freya mother and asked for help, and i think we will get some, but ill check back in the morning to see what everyones ideas/thoughts are on taking the fleet to the next level and how.

[Buba uognarf]

hi guys these are the Reaper ship revisions i'll be adding depth to them and their tech shortly...

Reaper hive ship

Wraith Reaper hiveship – heavy hive

~Type: hyperspace battleship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 6.57 km

~width: 3.68km

~height: 800 meters

~Decks: 200

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 5000(max 7000)

~Power plant
2 hive generators

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive

6 heavy wraith thrusters

80 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

45x wraith hive energy canons
5 x Reaper canons (unstable high yield energy canon)

~Defenses:

Dispersion field deflects over 99% of enemy energy weapon fire and desperses damage from nukes e.t.c...
Armor: 125 meter bio regenerative armour

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment



Reaper V-type battle ship

Reaper V-type battle ship

~Type: hyperspace battleship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 3.3 km

~width: 1.8km

~height: 200 meters

~Decks: 60

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 3000(max 5000)

~Power plant
1 hive generators

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive

5 heavy wraith thrusters

60 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

25x wraith hive energy canons (20 in the forward arch)
3 x Reaper canon (unstable high yield energy)




~Defenses:

Dispersion field deflects over 99% of enemy energy weapon fire and desperses damage from nukes e.t.c...
Armor: 20 meter bio regenerative armor

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment



Reaper destroyer


Reaper Destroyer

~Type: Small hyperspace warship

~Technology Base: wraith

~Length: 193m

~width: 232m

~height: 78 meters

~Decks: 20

~Construction: Wraith inorganic and organic base with organic bio armour etc melded on

~Crew: 400(max 700)

~Power plant
4 small wraith generators

~Propulsion:
wraith hyper drive

3 heavy wraith thrusters

40 maneuvering thrusters

~Weapons:

2x wraith hive energy canons (2 in the forward arch)
1 x Forward Reaper canon (unstable high yield energy canon)




~Defenses:

Dispersion field deflects over 99% of enemy energy weapon fire and desperses damage from nukes e.t.c...
Armor: 5 meter bio regenerative armor

~Other technology:

Standard wraith equipment

what do you think?

do you think the Reapers need a supership?

[Buba uognarf]

hi guys i know it's been a long time coming but here it is the final part of my battle...

This is a recap of whats happened thus far...

One small step for man…-Wraith vs Alliance battle -24 august 2028

premise

After losing ground during the Superhive incident the alliance has been struggling to regain lost ground and the constant wraith offensive is slowly wearing us down. Troop moral is low and Alliance command has made a decision that has shocked the ranks it's all or nothing the largest battle of the war is set to take place, to have any hope of winning this war the wraith forces in the Kratus systems must been destroyed and them driven from our territory...

Victory would mean hope and force the wraith to fall back to their own space but defeat would mean the end of the war...

The largest battle in the history of the galaxy and the battle that will determine the future of Pegasus is about to begin…

Fleets involved

Wraith

211 hives
298 predators
350 cruisers
200,000 darts and bombers

(43 hives
17 predators
20 cruisers) on their way to the system





Alliance

Fleet 1 :

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-12 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-8 Henry arnolds cruiser
-6 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-3 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-12 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 536 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-10 serpents
-6 deadali's
-4 Aegis class carriers
-12 Henry arnolds cruiser
-10 unity destroyer
-10 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-10 Alkesh bombers
-1000 F-302's
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 2:

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
-7 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-2 deadalus class battlecarrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 500 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 8 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-10 Henry arnolds cruiser
-14 unity destroyer
-8 tegelus gunship
-4 columbia class assault carrier
-6 deadalus class battlecarrier
-6 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 1000 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Fleet 3:

Titan + Hercules + Scimitar combined forces

- 15 Serpent battlecruisers
-8 Aegis class carriers
-20 Henry arnolds cruiser
-24 unity destroyer
-8 deadalus class battlecarrier
-20 Alkesh bombers
-6 columbia class assault carrier
-A combined airwing of 1200 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 3 Oneills

Asgard: (On route at the beginning of the battle)

-11 Asgard oneills
-4 Hammonds
-6 Valkeries
- Valhalla

Wraith System – Kratus

Planets + Defenses

Kratus IV:

Large baron planet, no life but supports a huge mining operation and 3 shipyards…

Defenses
- Wraith orbital mining station
- 44 wraith orbital defense canons
- 3 standard wraith shipyards



Kratus III:

Small moon orbiting Kratus 4 with approximately 200 thousand wraith, lightly defended with light planetary defenses…

Defenses
- 2 ship yards
- 13 wraith orbital defense canons
- 17 planetary defense canons


Kratus II:

Medium sized planet with approximately 5 million wraith, heavily defended with planetary defense canons and orbital defense canons it also has a wraith super station in orbit…

Defenses
- Wraith Super station with 5 additional ship yards
- 56 wraith orbital defense canons
- 38 planetary defense canons



Kratus I:

Large sized planet with approximately 3 billion wraith, most heavily defended world outside the home system

Defenses
- 2 Super stations and 13 additional shipyards
- 76 wraith orbital defense canons
- 98 planetary defense canons



The Battle

The alliance fleet drew closer and closer to their target, each captain knew the stakes and that this battle could very well be their last. As the captain of the Cerberus looked out across the bridge and at his crew he knew that they wouldn’t fail him they’d been in dozens of battles together and this would not be the last…

The fleet was broken into 3 smaller battle groups for a three pronged attack on the system with each group targeting a specific planet in their numbers the wraith were unbeatable but if they were separated the alliance may have a chance…

The captains also knew that the Wraith also noticed the fleet build ups and had amassed a third of their fleet to meet them, an Asgard contingent was on it’s way but the fleet could not wait the wraith fleet assembled could decimate dozens of systems they had to strike before the fleet could move out…

Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus II…

The fleets dropped out of hyperspace above their designated targets but were immediately hit with a hail of gun fire from the orbital defenses several ships succumbed instantly to the fire and were destroyed…

The Phoenix battle fleet targeted Kratus II and opened fire on the orbital defense stations but the fire was easily repelled but their nigh impenetrable shields, the captain of the Leviathon noticed that the orbital defenses were tied into the Superstation and ordered all ships to target the station but with the wraith defense fleet baring down on them getting close enough to the station was more than difficult…

The only chance they had was launch all fighters and bombers and hope that the pilots skills would be enough to break through the Wraith lines, the fighters flew towards the Superstation but thousands of darts swarmed fourth from the Superstation and the planets surface ripping the alliance fighter squadrons to shreds. The captain of the Leviathon knew that the odds were against them and in daring move signaled part of the fleet to move in flanked by the Oneills and several destroyers the Leviathon pounded into the wraith lines and cut a sway through their fleet. The orbital canons switched their focus to the larger tauri ships, half the attacking fleet was annihilated almost instantly but the remaining fleet managed to enter range and blast a hole in the incoming dart screen giving the brave pilots of the alliance time to break through and fire their payload…

All at once 100’s of the most powerful tauri nukes were launched most of them heading towards the planet, the planetary defense canons fired in burst mode spraying the area with energy bolts destroying most of the incoming nukes but not enough, several multi-gigaton nukes struck the planet wiping out millions of wraith destroying much of the wraith infastructure…

Nearly a dozen nukes struck the Superstation causing catastrophic damage but the station was built to be resilient and survived the attack with many systems operational the orbital canons remained operational and the Superstation’s weapons hammed the incoming Alliance fleet. The Leviathon and 2 Oneills were the only ships now within range of the Superstation the rest of the fleet was fighting a losing battle against the orbital canons, all seemed lost until one of the Oneills discovered a weakness in the armor above the station stabilizers which were keeping the station in orbit the Leviathon reacted immediately opening fire on the weak spot the Oneills were soon to follow the Superstation continued to fire and one of the Oneills succumbed to the barrage but it was too late the stabilizers exploded from the pressure causing the station to lose power and come hurtling towards the planet, the remaining defense canons concentrated their fire in vain trying to stop the Stations descent but the station was too resilient and it hit the planet. The exploding generators destroyed the remaining infrastructure and without the Superstation supplying power the orbital canons powered down…

The remaining wraith defense fell back to Kratus I and the phoenix battle fleet began preparation for the final assault…


Surviving ships Alliance…

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-8 Serpent battlecruisers
-1 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-2 unity destroyer
-4 tegelus gunship
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-2 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 211 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-6 serpents
-3 deadali's
-3 Aegis class carriers
-9 Henry arnolds cruiser
-5 unity destroyer
-7 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-300 F-302's
- 1 Oneills

[Buba uognarf]

Battle for the outer colonies – Kratus IV-III…

The Cerberus dropped out of hyperspace leading the Hades battle fleet and immediately began evasive maneuvers to dodge the hail of gunfire, together with 3 gunship wings and the Oneills they moved to intercept the wraith fleet defending Kratus IV and III, the enemy fleet was small only 20 hives and 31 predators but it had the orbital defenses for fire support and the alliance was talking heavy casualties…

The smaller alliance ships ran circles around the wraith fleet but were unable to damage the orbital defenses. The power was being transferred from the mining station which was lightly defended, the captain of the Cerberus ordered the bulk of the fleet forward. Under the immense firepower of the Hades battle fleet the wraith forces were forced to retreat back to the main planet. The fleet stormed through the orbital defenses and blew the mining station to hell though several alliance ships were destroyed and crippled during the battle. The orbital defenses were quickly dispatched without their shields and the Hades battle fleet prepared to lay waste to Kratus IV but wraith reinforcements had already arrived and taken positions in orbital, with an iron determination the Cerberus’s captain ordered the final push…

The wraith reinforcements had arrived putting a wall of 50 hives between the Hades fleet and their goal. The fleet commanders knew that a head on confrontation with those hives and the orbital defense would result in heavy casualties, there was also another problem the orbital defenses were tied into a grid with all three of the ship yards and the mining station meaning disabling them would be near impossible…

Together the fleet commanders decided on a plan, it would rely on the legendary air wings of the Hades battle fleet. While the main fleet distracted the wraith forces the fighters would attack the wraith shipyards and fighters head on while half the bombers concentrated their fire on a mining station, when the station is destroyed the remaining bombers will detonate their payloads in between the orbital canons wiping them all out in 3 seconds it takes for the power link to establish with another shipyard…

The fleet moved out its target the wraith fleet. The wraith held their position and opened fire on the Hades battle fleet which took heavy damage. As the fleet entered range the captains gave the order to fire and launched a counter attack with tore into the wraith lines. The fleet continued to push forward despite taking horrendous damage from both the wraith fleet and the orbital canons, with a mighty crash the Hades fleet collided with the wraith Armanda the smaller tauri vessels out maneuvering the hives and their escorts. The wraith fleet took the bait and moved out of position to confront the tauri fleet head on, this is what the alliance had been waiting for the captain of the Cerberus gave the order…”launch the dagger” and the doors of hell opened and the fighters of the Hades battle fleet began the attack. The fighters and bombers flew into the heart of the battle dodging the fire they raced towards the target, but they had been detected and 9000 darts moved to intercept. The fighter group broke up into smaller squadrons with half the fighter wing engaging the stations and the other half providing cover fire for the bombers…

The battle against the wraith fleet was fierce although they had distracted the fleet long enough for the fighters to get through they were still within arms reach of the orbital canons and taking a beating victory hinged on the fighters…

The fighters fought an intense battle against the darts but the bombers were nearly in range, the bombers were ready for the final push but 3000 darts stood in their way and with only 200 fighters available for support it looked as though it was over. The fighters prepared for a suicidal attack when out of nowhere the Cerberus appeared and fired a volley from its energy canon decimating the dart squadrons allowing the alliance fighters to gain the upper hand and blast their way through. With the path clear the bombers fired their payloads annihilating the mining station, the rest of fighters needed no invitation and fired their nukes before evacuating the area. The nukes detonated simultaneously wiping out all the defense canons though many fighters were also lost in the blast…

The rest of the fleet pressed their advantage and drove the wraith back destroying their shipyards…

They didn’t have time to celebrate however as the Titan, Hercules and Scimitar forces had been devastated by the wraith and were in great need of assistance…


Surviving ships alliance

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 1 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-3 Henry arnolds cruiser
-13 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-A combined airwing of 234 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 6 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-7 Henry arnolds cruiser
-11 unity destroyer
-5 tegelus gunship
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-4 deadalus class battlecarrier
-A combined airwing of 278 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 2 Oneills


Battle for the inner systems- Asteroid Field


The Phoenix and Hades fleets reached the asteroid field too late the only contacts were wreckage mainly from alliance ships the wraith had decimated the Titan, Hercules and Scimitar battle fleets, but all was not lost the fleet detected small isolated pockets of fighting the fleet captains ordered the fleet to break up and offer support to the remnants of the fleets but the bulk of the wraith armada was already on it’s way…

“Mayday mayday, calling all alliance ships we’re in desperate need of assistance…shields failing…hull breaches on 7 decks….we……(signal cuts out)” from the Pegasus command ship of the joint Scimitar, titan and Hercules fleets…

“Move to intercept!” captain of the Cerberus…

“…What happened?” Pegasus captain.
“That last shot took out our communications.” Helmsmen.
“Damn it! Divert all emergency power and life support to shields and engines, take us up those hives A-holes full thrust!”

The ship rocked as it set a direct course for 2 hives ship baring down on it’s position. The ship buckled under the strain as it took fire from the 2 hive ships.

“…shields down to 4%! The next couple of shots will finish us!” Helmsmen.
“Maintain course, Ramming speed prepare to activate the self destruct!” ordered the captain.

The hives prepared to fire when out of no where 4 missiles flew over the Pegasus and slammed into one of the hives causing massive damage, the Cerberus had arrived and positioned itself between the hives and the Pegasus. A volley from the Cerberus energy canons destroyed the first hive while half a dozen alliance ships finished off the second. Similar skirmishes took place across the asteroid belt but with the overwhelming numbers of alliance ships the wraith forces retreated to regroup with the remaining fleet.

Several smaller alliance ships escaped the massacre by hiding in the asteroid field the minerals in the asteroids themselves hid them from wraith sensors but most of the carriers and battle cruisers had been destroyed in the battle and the majority of the fleet had sustained damage…

And with the bulk of the wraith fleet approaching due to arrive in less then 30min (consisting of well over 150 hives) things looked grim indeed, the fleet made what little repairs they could and prepared for the endgame…

[Buba uognarf]

this it the final part...

Final battle


Allied forces

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-8 Serpent battlecruisers
-1 Aegis class carriers
-5 Henry arnolds cruiser
-2 unity destroyer
-4 tegelus gunship
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-2 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 211 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-6 serpents
-3 deadali's
-3 Aegis class carriers
-9 Henry arnolds cruiser
-5 unity destroyer
-7 tegelus gunship
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-4 Alkesh bombers
-300 F-302's
- 1 Oneills

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
- 1 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-3 Henry arnolds cruiser
-13 unity destroyer
-6 tegelus gunship
-A combined airwing of 234 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 6 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Aegis class carriers
-7 Henry arnolds cruiser
-11 unity destroyer
-5 tegelus gunship
-3 columbia class assault carrier
-4 deadalus class battlecarrier
-A combined airwing of 278 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 2 Oneills

Titan + Hercules + Scimitar combined forces

- 2 Serpent battlecruisers
-6 Henry arnolds cruiser
-4 unity destroyer
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-16 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 400 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 2 Oneills

Asgard: (On route arrival time 30min)

-11 Asgard oneills
-4 Hammonds
-6 Valkeries
- Valhalla

Wraith

156 hives
187 predators
230 cruisers
154,000 darts and wraith bombers


The Wraith forces were coming. Over one hundred and fifty hives were set to arrive within 5 minutes and without the Asgard the alliance looked doomed without reinforcements they had no chance to stand against such a fleet. But if the alliance could hold their ground for just 30 minutes the Asgard would arrive and we would have the boost we needed to counter attack and take the system though even with the Asgard it would be an uphill struggle.

To combat the wraith armada the main fleet was split into 3 smaller groups one on each flank and one holding the centre, moments before the battle the commander of the Leviathon gave a speak to the fleet,

“For 10,000 years the Pegasus galaxy has lived in fear, millions killed with no one to avenge them but no more! The wraith have stood too long today we bring them to their knee’s or die trying!”

A cheer resounded throughout the alliance fleet, then it began…

The wraith opened fire on the fleet destroying several ships in the first volley (many of the ships were still critically damaged from the earlier battles) from the word go the alliance was on the defensive and the wraith were closing in…

The wraith were using their classic strategy, close to point blank range and fire. At close range with the support from all their guns the wraith were nearly unbeatable but the alliance had one advantage maneuverability…

The smaller more agile alliance ships were able to run circles around the larger wraith vessels but nearly all ordnance was being intercepted we couldn’t hit them…

Around and inbetween the main battle the largest fighter battle in the history of the galaxy was taking place thousands of fighters collided in a desperate struggle but the alliance fighters were outnumbered 100 – 1 and even the dagger of the alliance the legendary fighter wing of the Hades battle fleet was being completely out matched…

The wraith bombers were tearing the carrier groups to shreds their disintegration bombs vaporizing chunks of the unshielded hulls, alkesh struggled to keep up with the clearly superior wraith vessels…

The battle was not going well the centre and left flank were holding but the right flank were being grinded into the ground attempting to render assistance the Leviathon moved to support the right flank but it was caught off guard in the rear by two wraith cruisers. The cruisers focused their fire on one of the dorsal hyperdrive fins, the Leviathon returned fire but it’s aft weapons were insufficient to stop them and it couldn’t shake them and if that wasn’t enough a wraith hive ship was moving to intercept the Leviathon, it opened fire with all it’s broadside canons…

The Leviathon pulled up out maneuvering the cruisers which were pummeled by hive fire the Leviathon resurfaced behind the cruisers and blasted them to kingdom come with it’s forward array sending the cruiser wreckage directly into the hive ship causing massive damage, two Oneills swooped in to finish off the hive…

The few Asgard ships we had were split, two working in concert to render assistance across the battle field and the other three spread out across the three battle groups. The two Oneills were wreaking havoc but the wraith would let none stand before them and twelve hives were dispatched to dispose of the Asgard the Asgard fought bravely but they were quickly overcome…

The Cerberus shields were down to 60% and several decks had been breached by internal explosions caused by the severe strain of the wraith bombardment. The Hades carrier groups were in trouble, three hive ships were pounding several Aegis carriers the Cerberus was forced to act without back up if the carriers were destroyed there would be no where for the brave pilots to return to. Together with a deadalus class the Cerberus swooped in guns blazing firing over three dozen energy shots onto the roof of one of the hive ships before going side on with the hive ship. The Cerberus exchanged fire with the hive for several seconds before firing a nuke spam straight in it’s face blowing it to hell, then together with the deadalus class it fought the wraith hives back away from the carriers…

Despite the heroics of the alliance fleet there was no escaping the fact that they were completely outmatched ships were beginning to drop like flies, the lines of the right flank were nearly broken in one desperate final attack the Leviathon called half forces of the right flank together and attacked the wraith concentrations at first the wraith were caught off guard by the suddenness and aggressive nature of the attack and several hives were destroyed but they quickly regained control. All around them the Leviathon’s support were being destroyed and it’s own shield were dropping fast it looked over but then out of no where the Asgard arrived!!!

The Asgard dropped out of hyperspace directly over head the wraith forces on the right flank and they came in guns firing the wraith forces in that battle group were torn to shreds, though several Asgard vessels were lost the right flank was quickly overcome and the alliance forces flanked the wraith battle groups the wraith were on the defensive…

The wraith desperately tried to stop the advance of the alliance but they were being out maneuvered at every turn and their firepower advantage had been severely dimished, the wraith were being forced back but the alliance had to fight for every inch and massive casualties were being inflicted on the alliance fleet but when Valhalla arrived the wraith knew it was over with Valhalla in the fight not even the defenses at Kratus would be able to stop the alliance from conquering the system….

But uncharacteristically instead of retreating the wraith fought to the last man, falling back to planets atmosphere the wraith made their stand, though dozens more ships were lost in taking the planet the alliance was victorious…


Survivors


Allied forces

The Phoenix group + Allies/sub fleets

The Leviathon battleship
-3 Serpent battlecruisers
-1 Aegis class carriers
-2 Henry arnolds cruiser
-2 unity destroyer
-2 tegelus gunship
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-2 columbia class assault carrier
-2 Alkesh bombers
-A combined airwing of 65 F-302a's and F/B307 and F302's]

-2 serpents
-2 deadali's
-1 Aegis class carriers
-4 Henry arnolds cruiser
-3 unity destroyer
-5 tegelus gunship
-31 F-302's
- 1 Oneills

The Hades group + allies/sub fleets

-The Cerberus battleship
-3 Aegis class carriers
-1 Henry arnolds cruiser
-6 unity destroyer
-4 tegelus gunship
-A combined airwing of 87 F-302a's and F/B-307

- 3 Serpent battlecruisers
-2 Aegis class carriers
-2 Henry arnolds cruiser
-4 unity destroyer
-3 tegelus gunship
-1 columbia class assault carrier
-1 deadalus class battlecarrier
-A combined airwing of 45 F-302a's and F/B-307
- 1 Oneills

Titan + Hercules + Scimitar combined forces

-3 Henry arnolds cruiser
-2 unity destroyer
-A combined airwing of 33 F-302a's and F/B-307

Asgard: (On route arrival time 30min)

-6 Asgard oneills
-2 Hammonds
- Valhalla

Wraith

- None all wraith ships either fought to their destruction or kamikazed the alliance…


Aftermath

This battle marked a turning point the war with the wraith, after losing the Kratus system the wraith were forced to withdraw to their own space and abandon over a dozen star systems a crippling blow though within a year they had nearly completely recovered fleet wise…

The alliance had won a great victory but a costly one, one which would long be remembered as the most costly battle in the history of the alliance (save the final battle against the Reapers which cost hundred of ships)…

The alliance had the boost they need and the proof that the war had only just begun…

as always i'd like feedback:D....

i'd also like to tell you guys the plans i have for my next battle...

The next things i am planning to write are a series of battles and historical writings detailing the rise of the Reapers...

this is roughly what i'll cover;

-who exactly are they?
-why they came to be
-what the roots of their technology are
-why/how they become so powerful

what do you think of my idea?

i'm not going to do the wraith attack on earth yet because it kind of adds closure to the story when there's still so much to tell...

[immhotep]

Buba that was incredible!
I loved it, i could see every thing in detail and it was so well written.
You porttrayed everything that the allience is about, fantastic battle.
The asgard coming in at the end was classic allience strategy, we know we can handle the wraith small scale but in big battles the asgard have to be there to do the final blows. The leviathons and cerberus ships were well used and the whole cruiser/hive dodge tactic was really cool.

Awesome! and yes dont do the earth story yet, there is so much more to tell :D
You get green!

[Buba uognarf]

Buba that was incredible!
I loved it, i could see every thing in detail and it was so well written.
You porttrayed everything that the allience is about, fantastic battle.
The asgard coming in at the end was classic allience strategy, we know we can handle the wraith small scale but in big battles the asgard have to be there to do the final blows. The leviathons and cerberus ships were well used and the whole cruiser/hive dodge tactic was really cool.

Awesome! and yes dont do the earth story yet, there is so much more to tell :D
You get green!

thanks!!! i really appreciate your kind words thank you:D

i'll be getting to work on the Reapers soon i'd give a little information about the battle now...

the year is 2029 - The Dark Space

The dark space is a wraith strong hold consisting of nearly 3 dozen star systems, surrounded by spacial anomalys it's a perfect area to set up a base...

for the entire war the wraith have been conducting all their research there but now the alliance has got wind of new wraith technology which could change the face of the war and the Pegasus galaxy...

the hades battle fleet is going where no alliance ship has every gone before into the heart of the darkspace...


that story will show where Reaper technology comes from...

what do you think?

[Buba uognarf]

has anyone got any battles planned?

[immhotep]

Hey guys im going to be writing a battle about the defence of the mid way gate station soon; however i would like someone to do me a favour if they are able:
Could someone make a banner or sig or logo or something for the Gwfleet, that we could all like have in our sigs, i know some poeple have a mini banner and i have a text link, but i would like a cooler image. Something with the asgard and huimans and wraith in, A hive ship with an oniel and F302 or something, anything.. thanks :)

[immhotep]

Buba, i have an idea for a battle, me vs you :D

You play the wraith, ill play the T/A-A; Its can be the first role play in the thread. You pick any planet or place to attack (like new london, earth, mid way station etc) and i will defend it. You can describe one attack, then ill do a counter attack and so forth. At the end of each post we note down the casulties on each side.

Start off with a big battle if you like, like your earth attack in the few weeks; we could include the midway station battle too. The wraiths final campaign, giving up on the PG the seek out earth and final retribution; planing on taking the midway station and sending a fleet of darts all accross the MW as a first strike before challengin earth. You attack with the wraith, ill defend with the Asgard and Earth forces.

Sound any gd?

[Buba uognarf]

Hey guys im going to be writing a battle about the defence of the mid way gate station soon; however i would like someone to do me a favour if they are able:
Could someone make a banner or sig or logo or something for the Gwfleet, that we could all like have in our sigs, i know some poeple have a mini banner and i have a text link, but i would like a cooler image. Something with the asgard and huimans and wraith in, A hive ship with an oniel and F302 or something, anything.. thanks :)

thats a really good idea!!! i wouldn't be able to do it, but anyone who can gets green:D

i think a couple of hives some earth ships and an Oneil would look good...

[Buba uognarf]

Buba, i have an idea for a battle, me vs you :D

You play the wraith, ill play the T/A-A; Its can be the first role play in the thread. You pick any planet or place to attack (like new london, earth, mid way station etc) and i will defend it. You can describe one attack, then ill do a counter attack and so forth. At the end of each post we note down the casulties on each side.

Start off with a big battle if you like, like your earth attack in the few weeks; we could include the midway station battle too. The wraiths final campaign, giving up on the PG the seek out earth and final retribution; planing on taking the midway station and sending a fleet of darts all accross the MW as a first strike before challengin earth. You attack with the wraith, ill defend with the Asgard and Earth forces.

Sound any gd?


ok sounds GREAT:D...should be fun...

first we'd need to work out some rules together then maybe a pilot test with a smaller battle...

after we could write it up as actual part of the war/story...

you're on a roll tonight one great idea after another:D

[Buba uognarf]

i have an idea on how to play...

we divid the battle into minute long segments...we work out the number of shots to be fired and the targets...

once the ships points are gone it's destroyed, we trade points targeting one ship after another until one side is destroyed or surrends/retreats...

look good?

[immhotep]

Yeah that sounds cool so it could be like this:


buba:
6 wraith hives fired 200 shots from forward cannons upon the engaging vessels, the 6 henry arnolds and 5 serpent class ships got hits with a full force of the blow. Behind the Leviathon was moving in to cover the small vessels.

Immhotep:
After sustaining wraith fire our allience support vessels needed assistant, thier systems were critical, the leviathon and an oniel moved in to defend, expanding thier shields around the smaller vessels and opening fire upon the wriath. The Leviathon 360 shots from its forward cannons. simerly the Oniel fired 640 bolts of plasma at the wraith. 6 nukes from each of the henry arnolds and 600 heavy rail/coil gun rounds fired from the serpents.


buba:
The wraith suffered moderate damage, 3 out of the 6 hives were damaged and while able to fire were motionless and running out of time. The other three hives had combat and support functions but lacked shields or hyperdrive capablilty. 2 returned fire while sraffing the Oniel and opened fire, concentrating 800 shots on the leviathon.

Does that looks correct in any way?

[Buba uognarf]

that looks alright but i think we should use the stat sheet to work out damage etc...

for example;

battle minute 1)
Buba,

6 hives focus their gun batteries on 6 serphants firing roughly 300 shots on each...

serphants shields decrease by roughly 30% (they have about 1000 hit points)

Now comes the tricky part do we do it simultaneusly (which would be difficult because we need to work out the exact time it would take to destroy each vessel and adjust fire accordingly)....or do we simply do it turns 1 minute at a time...

what do you think???

i'm also want to make the superhive stronger...i'll do this by adding weapons, aswell as the 85 standard canons, i plan to add 30 or so heavy second generation wraith canons which would fire more slowly but have a much greater yield...what do you think???

one more thing...i'm planning on creating a Reaper fighter, once i've got the specs ot before if you like i'm going to need to someone to try modeling it...it won't be that hard as it's smaller than other ships and i beleive people in this forum can do it...

[immhotep]

I like it should be old school turn based stretegy, where you do a minute, then i do a minute (other other certain time); each ship defending ship having shield points and hull points; and each attacking ship having attack points/bonus and a recharge time.

The wraith guns, i watched siege three earlier btw to check up and they actually fire in bursts of about 60 shots and then stop and another hive fires in their place; it looks like a constant stream of fire but the hives do stop and regulate between all the ships in the fleet.

example:

Buba force:
2 Hives (each vessel; Ap=900/per minute - 60sec. recharge time
8 cruisers (each vessel; Ap=200/per minute - 60sec. recharge time)


Immhotep force:
4 serpents (each vessel; Sp=1000/Hp=400)
6 deadalus(each vessel; Sp=680/Hp=300)
2 columbia(each vessel; Sp=800/Hp=350)

Translation in battle, the immhotep fleet would win this round because they have a collective shield strength of more the 3400 which is the combined attack power of the buba fleet. ( 9680 in fact)
Immhoteps fleet would have 1 minute to counter attack before the wraith could fire again. Now if Immhote can beat the wraith fleet in less than two rounds he will win because the wraith will only be able to beat the combined shield strength in 3 rounds.

am i making any sense?

[Buba uognarf]

I like it should be old school turn based stretegy, where you do a minute, then i do a minute (other other certain time); each ship defending ship having shield points and hull points; and each attacking ship having attack points/bonus and a recharge time.

The wraith guns, i watched siege three earlier btw to check up and they actually fire in bursts of about 60 shots and then stop and another hive fires in their place; it looks like a constant stream of fire but the hives do stop and regulate between all the ships in the fleet.

example:

Buba force:
2 Hives (each vessel; Ap=900/per minute - 60sec. recharge time
8 cruisers (each vessel; Ap=200/per minute - 60sec. recharge time)


Immhotep force:
4 serpents (each vessel; Sp=1000/Hp=400)
6 deadalus(each vessel; Sp=680/Hp=300)
2 columbia(each vessel; Sp=800/Hp=350)

Translation in battle, the immhotep fleet would win this round because they have a collective shield strength of more the 3400 which is the combined attack power of the buba fleet. ( 9680 in fact)
Immhoteps fleet would have 1 minute to counter attack before the wraith could fire again. Now if Immhote can beat the wraith fleet in less than two rounds he will win because the wraith will only be able to beat the combined shield strength in 3 rounds.

am i making any sense?

Yeah i'm fine with that structure, but i don't recall the wraith having recharge rates...if it's all the same to you i'd like to ignore recharge rates and just work from a shots per minute basis, these wraith ships have been upgraded so they'd be more efficent anyway...the stats we came up with on the last page include hull strength and and shield strength and i doubt that a tauri ship could withstand 400 blasts when we've seen hive ships which are a dozen times larger be destroyed in about 20ish...

so what you think is similar to my idea's....we work in minutes, attacker goes first unless supprised by defender, fires shots works out damage then defender counter attacks and so on...

what about my idea's for the superhive and a Reaper fighter?

[immhotep]

Yeah thats fine, i was trying to give a reason for the minute mby minute layout in the battle, if there is recharge time that gives my window to attack. Lets do a mock up 2night, not too big but something bigger than what we used as an example.
The superhive doesnt need to be stronger, uts already so powerfull it can literally only be beaten by only the strongest allience fleet in extreame numbers.

[Buba uognarf]

Yeah thats fine, i was trying to give a reason for the minute mby minute layout in the battle, if there is recharge time that gives my window to attack. Lets do a mock up 2night, not too big but something bigger than what we used as an example.
The superhive doesnt need to be stronger, uts already so powerfull it can literally only be beaten by only the strongest allience fleet in extreame numbers.


ok, we'll have a mock up later...i don't know if i'm making this into too big a thing or whether you wanted it to be a one off but i have idea that we could turn this into an entire campaign!

we could draw up a list of planets/systems under our control and fleet numbers and fight out a few months in the war...we could allocate ships to certain areas, designate attack targets and build ships accordingly...

what do you think?


:(...i really want to add some bigger guns to the Superhive lol....

[immhotep]

Yeah definitly i think a campaign would be awesome; we could have it start with the Wraith attacking our systems then some strategic counter attacks and then a major battle for the midway station. If you win the midway staion battle then you get to attack earth, if i win, i get to attack the wraith homesystem :cool:

This should be fun :D

[Buba uognarf]

Yeah definitly i think a campaign would be awesome; we could have it start with the Wraith attacking our systems then some strategic counter attacks and then a major battle for the midway station. If you win the midway staion battle then you get to attack earth, if i win, i get to attack the wraith homesystem :cool:

This should be fun :D

yeah ok, but the wraith attack on earth is a last ditch attack from the wraith to cripple the tauri for ever meddling in the affairs after the wraith are beaten so i won't be doing that battle till the Reaper story is finished...

on the topic of the Reapers i thought i write down rough fleet figues for the final battle (i won't be writing it for months though)

Reapers

512 reaper hives
780 V-type battleships
2300 destroyers
400,000 scourge fighters

Wraith

5 superhives
356 hives
876 predators
1400 cruisers
450,000 darts
50,000 bombers

T/A-A

basically our entire fleet

it's going to be HUGE...


ok back on topic i think the first thing we need to do is work out fleet figues, are we going to have the entire wraith and tauri fleets at our disposal or are we going to be only using a fraction?

edit: i just added the superhives to the fleet:D

[immhotep]

Im going to have all the ships in Pegasus at my disposal, my "character" is the human fleet admiral in Pegasus, basicly the most important human in that galaxy :D; but in battles i will use either battlegroups or sector/system fleets, with reinforcements from other star systems if need be. So i wil coordinate the ships in the battle, casulties etc and how they are positioned and who they attack. I will write that out as an overview of the battle minute by minute.
So if its a big battle i can call in entire fleets of ships, but if its just territorial tooing and froing then i will just use existing ships, or calling in a sector fleet like the Pheonix squadren for backup.
The wraith fleet should be done accordingly, with say small fleets of maybe 2/3 hives and a group of cruisers when i attack. But when you attack several system fleets can combine and attack enmasse ( say 10/12 hives and two dozen cruisers) making it a larger deal requiring a larger defence force to be mustered..
I hope this works lol :D

[Buba uognarf]

Im going to have all the ships in Pegasus at my disposal, my "character" is the human fleet admiral in Pegasus, basicly the most important human in that galaxy :D; but in battles i will use either battlegroups or sector/system fleets, with reinforcements from other star systems if need be. So i wil coordinate the ships in the battle, casulties etc and how they are positioned and who they attack. I will write that out as an overview of the battle minute by minute.
So if its a big battle i can call in entire fleets of ships, but if its just territorial tooing and froing then i will just use existing ships, or calling in a sector fleet like the Pheonix squadren for backup.
The wraith fleet should be done accordingly, with say small fleets of maybe 2/3 hives and a group of cruisers when i attack. But when you attack several system fleets can combine and attack enmasse ( say 10/12 hives and two dozen cruisers) making it a larger deal requiring a larger defence force to be mustered..
I hope this works lol :D


so if you have the entire tauri fleet, then i must have the entire wraith fleet:D...this should be great, if it's done propelly and i'm sure we can be good sports...

we should complile a list of planets, making some up and also choose a date for this to be set in, i think we should also have a more accurate fleet numbers for the alliance so if you could do that then i can do that for the wraith fleet (about 600 hives)

i'll also work out system defenses and shipyards...

we also need to set up a maneuving phase of sorts when we want to create larger fleets they're not going to immediately appear...

sound ok?

[immhotep]

Campaign dates: 2024-2026; this is before most of the major battles, at a time when its all to gain and everything to lose, this is before all the chess pieces have been put in place. You can still attack earth as a last retaliation, there are several phass to the war.


The entire PG allied fleet:


Fighters:
F-302 = 2690
Puddle jumper = 76
F-302A /Raven = 1860

F/B-307 = 1358
Destroyers:

DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer = 386


Gunship:

DSG-312 Tegalus-class = 286
Goauld alkesh class bomber = 59


Battlecruisers
BC-305 Serpant Class =112


Cruiser:
CIX-308 Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser = 168


Carrier:
SCVN-365 Aegis class = 27


Battlecarrier:
EAC-502-columbia class assault carrier = 73

BC-304 Deadalus class battlecarrier = 114


Battleships:
PBS-501 Levaithon class = 2

Asgard:

Oneil class= 38
Hammond class = 26

Valkyrie class = 80
Tyr class= 9

Valhalla class= 1


Ancient:Aurora class warship = 3

Atlantis class cityship = 1

Goauld:
Hatak class = 7 hatak




Im not going to post my stretegum's, thats cheating ;) you have to adapt to them when we engange in battle :D

If need be i will split these force in to groups and systems etc. If this was made a game it would be awesome!

Btw to the lurkers, join in :) we dont bite...

[Buba uognarf]

Campaign dates: 2024-2026; this is before most of the major battles, at a time when its all to gain and everything to lose, this is before all the chess pieces have been put in place. You can still attack earth as a last retaliation, there are several phass to the war.


The entire PG allied fleet:


Fighters:
F-302 = 2690
Puddle jumper = 76
F-302A /Raven = 1860

F/B-307 = 1358
Destroyers:

DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer = 386


Gunship:

DSG-312 Tegalus-class = 286
Goauld alkesh class bomber = 59


Battlecruisers
BC-305 Serpant Class =112


Cruiser:
CIX-308 Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser = 168


Carrier:
SCVN-365 Aegis class = 27


Battlecarrier:
EAC-502-columbia class assault carrier = 73

BC-304 Deadalus class battlecarrier = 114


Battleships:
PBS-501 Levaithon class = 2

Asgard:

Oneil class= 38
Hammond class = 26

Valkyrie class = 80
Tyr class= 9

Valhalla class= 1


Ancient:Aurora class warship = 3

Atlantis class cityship = 1

Goauld:
Hatak class = 7 hatak




Im not going to post my stretegum's, thats cheating ;) you have to adapt to them when we engange in battle :D

If need be i will split these force in to groups and systems etc. If this was made a game it would be awesome!

Btw to the lurkers, join in :) we dont bite...

wow looks good, we can do other phases later:D...

ok wraith fleet...i won't include stations i'll put those with the planets...

Fighters/bombers

2,000,000 darts
2000 bombers

Cruisers
1874 upgraded cruisers
213 old cruisers

Predators/Heavy cruisers
987 Predators

Hives
545 upgraded hives(at the start of the campaign)
112 old hives

Superhives

1 build in 2027
6 more between 2028-2035

about a 100 hives are built a month, 200 predators and 300 cruisers accross pegasus...

i too won't reveal my strategies:D...

it would make an awesome game...ok now all we need to do is work up a sizeable list of planets and we can begin the campaign:D

[immhotep]

I have only got 8 major centres of popualtion; Atlantis,New london, Valhalla, AthosII, Borealis and New Oxford, New manhatten and New Tokyo. Im not good with names, so could you maybe help :o

[Buba uognarf]

I have only got 8 major centres of popualtion; Atlantis,New london, Valhalla, AthosII, Borealis and New Oxford, New manhatten and New Tokyo. Im not good with names, so could you maybe help :o

i'd be happy to help but i'm not to good at names either:o ...i suggest using worlds we've already seen in the show as their allied planets could be turned into strongholds e.g.genii, hoffans...

i'm going to bed but post your list if you can and i'll try and add stuff etc...tommorow

[Aroura-Gate]

You could add the centurion it would give you a stratigic advantage its time to bring her out immhotep

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=1f01f85db2d9569c49216e117b41f23b

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/BigBang452X/centurion1.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/BigBang452X/centurion.jpg

[ZakeD]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/Howard69/gwfleet2.jpg

How's this for a banner..? Nothing fancy really..but It looks alright.

[Buba uognarf]

Whats the centurion Aroura?

and the banner looks good Zake, but would you be able to do one with more ships maybe another deadalus coming up from the bottom corner?

and do you think we should make a seperate thread for this? because it would make it much easier to keep up...

we could have all the technical stuff like planets, fleet sizes weapon damage on the first page so it would be easy to access and we could also edit the fleets more easily once each battle is decided and planet lists...

otherwise we're going to have to keep looking through pages and pages to look stuff up and it's going to be harder to keep track...

[immhotep]

Another thread :O that insane!!! Its up to you, im perfectly able to scroll up and remember things but if you require another thread to do this then thats totally fine.
I was actually going to ask the mods i ship's could get a folder in Science and tech, because theres alot of threads on ships and ship design and the Gw fleet's got the potential to expand but is only on this one thread, but what a great thread it is :D

Sure if you want, do it.
Btw the Centurian is an asgard/human defence station, it may be the ship docks that are producing our fleet, might be something else.

[Buba uognarf]

Another thread :O that insane!!! Its up to you, im perfectly able to scroll up and remember things but if you require another thread to do this then thats totally fine.
I was actually going to ask the mods i ship's could get a folder in Science and tech, because theres alot of threads on ships and ship design and the Gw fleet's got the potential to expand but is only on this one thread, but what a great thread it is :D

Sure if you want, do it.
Btw the Centurian is an asgard/human defence station, it may be the ship docks that are producing our fleet, might be something else.

the only reason i said it is because if we have all the revelevent information on one page (page 1)...it's easier because we can go back and edit more easily and it's easier to see how the campaign is shaping up and other people maybe not involved can keep up aswell...

but i'll leave it up to...the virtual fleet is your idea afterall:D...

you decide

[immhotep]

Hmm I just did this:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/754/sgh3.png
a map of territories, in general term for the Pegasus galaxy at this time, its crap but i was thinking that as we play we can (if you save a copy) mark off and shade in bits we win/lose etc.

Its pretty even at this point, we both have large areas to defend and fight over. i might produce a fleet guide soon, i have half term coming up so got some time then, i will pull together everything so far in the thread, and produce another guide like i did for the OSDT but totally for the fleet. Stuff like pictures and specs for all the ships, all the maps and political/histroical stuff. Maybe a timeline of the entire war, from 2004 through to 2044. An also details on how to play this game.

I will host this document in a new thread or i will create a new page on my stargate space and post it all there...sound ok?

[Buba uognarf]

Hmm I just did this:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/754/sgh3.png
a map of territories, in general term for the Pegasus galaxy at this time, its crap but i was thinking that as we play we can (if you save a copy) mark off and shade in bits we win/lose etc.

Its pretty even at this point, we both have large areas to defend and fight over. i might produce a fleet guide soon, i have half term coming up so got some time then, i will pull together everything so far in the thread, and produce another guide like i did for the OSDT but totally for the fleet. Stuff like pictures and specs for all the ships, all the maps and political/histroical stuff. Maybe a timeline of the entire war, from 2004 through to 2044. An also details on how to play this game.

I will host this document in a new thread or i will create a new page on my stargate space and post it all there...sound ok?

yeah sounds great, and the galaxy map looks good aswell, i was planning on doing something like that myself but my paint doesn't work...do you need help on your guide? i have all the stuff on the wraith on my PC so i could compile all of it...
i'll have the time to help because i to have half term coming up too...and i'm sure i won't be going out every day:D

[immhotep]

Yeah thatd be cool, it you can get all the wraith stuff together, ill get all the allience stuff together and ill send it to you or you can send it to me, i really wanted to standardise all the ships. And this seems like a gd reason...

[Buba uognarf]

ok, when do you want it?

if you don't mind i'd like to outline the Reaper conflict myself...

are we going to have a mock battle to see how it works?

[immhotep]

Whenever you want, the reaper conflict is yours, ill deal wit the early part of the war, up until we start play.

Sure lets do it, mock battle starts. You can attack first..

[Buba uognarf]

Whenever you want, the reaper conflict is yours, ill deal wit the early part of the war, up until we start play.

Sure lets do it, mock battle starts. You can attack first..

ok, lets see i'll use

4 hives
5 predators
7 cruisers
2000 darts (500 in each hive)

start small:)...i was thinking that we should try and add more strategy to the battles like wraith vessels get firepower bonus's at close range but nukes are harder to intercept...what do you think?

i'd like to work out some finer rules to make it more varried if that's ok with you i have a few in mind?

[immhotep]

Yeah thats fine, detailed rules are cool; my planetary defence fleet for MJ1- 806, which is the 4th offworld research facility build in the galaxy, providing some of our finest discoverys to date, defended by:

DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer = 18
DSG-312 Tegalus-class = 8
Goauld alkesh class bomber = 11
BC-305 Serpant Class =8
CIX-308 Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser = 20
SCVN-365 Aegis class = 1
EAC-502-columbia class assault carrier = 2
BC-304 Deadalus class battlecarrier = 4
F-302= 272 (64 on each of the columbias, 16 of the deadlui's and 80 on the Aegis)
Valkyrie class = 1

Total fleet: 315


PS: take a look at this :D http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7459/gateworldfleetsigiy1.jpg

[Buba uognarf]

Yeah thats fine, detailed rules are cool; my planetary defence fleet for MJ1- 806, which is the 4th offworld research facility build in the galaxy, providing some of our finest discoverys to date, defended by:

DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer = 18
DSG-312 Tegalus-class = 8
Goauld alkesh class bomber = 11
BC-305 Serpant Class =8
CIX-308 Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser = 20
SCVN-365 Aegis class = 1
EAC-502-columbia class assault carrier = 2
BC-304 Deadalus class battlecarrier = 4
F-302= 272 (64 on each of the columbias, 16 of the deadlui's and 80 on the Aegis)
Valkyrie class = 1

Total fleet: 315


PS: take a look at this :D http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7459/gateworldfleetsigiy1.jpg

ok should i make my fleet bigger then?


these are some of the rules i was thinking of...

Ranges - this is proximity of the opposing vessels this is broken up into;
Long range
Medium Range (standard)
Close range (point blank)

range as different benifets for each race, for example at medium range hives can fire and accuratly hit alliance ships with 300 shots but when they close to close or point blank this increases to 400...
at long range they have 200 shots...

this isn't exclusive to wraith, at close ranges dart screens become less effective and more nuke get through...

ok in a round 1min, any ship can close the gap or increase the gap between ships but only by one and they won't be able to reap the benifets to next round...

example;

round 1)

3 hive ships drop out of hyperspace at long range, there are 2 deadalus class there to meet them...

all three ships move to intercept the deadalus and fire whilst doing so...

they fire 200 shots each

alliance round 1)

the hives have moved into medium range, the deadalus return fire...

wraith round 2)

the wraith hold position at medium range and fire 300 shots each at the deadalus...

etc...do you understand what i mean?


Dart screens - the effectiveness of dart screens is limited by range...

long range - 90% of missiles are intercepted

medium range - 75% of missiles are intercepted

close range - 25% of missiles are intercepted

when deploying dart screens they must allocate how many darts are screening the fleet...

if the number of darts goes below 100 the figues change...

long range - 90% of missiles are intercepted

medium range - 75% of missiles are intercepted

close range - 10% of missiles are intercepted


ok what do you think?

and that banner is really good! who made it? the only thing is it's missing a hive ship but if you can't put one in don't worry it looks great already:D

[immhotep]

I made it, and thanks :D
Those rules seem fairly reasonable to me, do you have any others? does flanking or special formations have any bonus's? (conditions on when you can/cannot use formations)

add a few more cruisers but my fleet is mainly comprised of fighters and gunships, i have serpents and deadalus's for my main attack, oh and a valkyrie for the hives; its actually pretty fair.

[Buba uognarf]

I made it, and thanks :D
Those rules seem fairly reasonable to me, do you have any others? does flanking or special formations have any bonus's? (conditions on when you can/cannot use formations)

add a few more cruisers but my fleet is mainly comprised of fighters and gunships, i have serpents and deadalus's for my main attack, oh and a valkyrie for the hives; its actually pretty fair.

i don't have any more rules in mind, if you want rules for formations then i think it would best if you do them seeing as i'm quite tired and can't realy think at the moment and i would imagine it would be more complicated:)...
but go for it if you have something in mind...

ok my fleet...

4 hives
5 predators
16 cruisers
2000 darts (500 in each hive)

and well done the banners really good...

i'm ready to begin when you are...

[immhotep]

Im ready, we have to be alert, well play for like 5 minutes ok; stay on this thread and ill reply fast; im also tired. You have to attack first. :)

[Buba uognarf]

Im ready, we have to be alert, well play for like 5 minutes ok; stay on this thread and ill reply fast; im also tired. You have to attack first. :)

ok let it begin...

wraith round 1)

wraith fleet drops out of hyperspace at medium range and holds position. All darts are launched and form a screen around their parent hives...

wraith attack;

12 cruisers fire 100 shots each at the valkyrie taking away all it's hit points destroying it...sorry:(

4 cruisers each fire 100 shots at a Serphant class taking away 400 of it's 880 hit points

3 predators fire 200 shots each the Serphant destroying it...

3 hives fire 300 shots each at another serphant destroying it...

the remaining hive and 2 predators fire their shots at another serphant firing 700 shots collectively causing critical damage to another serphant...


end of round one...sorry it took awhile i had to take care of something i'll be quicker from now on...

[immhotep]

Round 1 (minute 1)

The Allied fleet drops out of hyperspace near the second planet of the system, sensors indicate the presense of a mid size wraith fleet. The fleet is divided in two two attack groups. All the serpents, unity and Henry H. Arnold ships masrshal together.
The rest of the fleet group together aroudn the central force of Deadalus class ships.
The Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser's open fire with their missiles against two of the hives, they fire 4 missiles each, 80 in total out of the combined 360 anti capitol missiles they have.

Casulties:
1 Hive
2 cruiser in resulting explosion



is that ok? im taking so long, this involved maths!

[Buba uognarf]

lol...you're getting serious:D...prepare to have your ass whooper!

wraith round 2)

3 hives
5 predators
14 cruisers

remaining...

2 cruisers finish off the damaged serphant

6 cruisers fire on one serphant

6 cruisers fire on another serphant

2 predators finish off one serphant

2 predators finish off another serphant

3 hives destroy another serphant

remaining predator destroys a telagus


casulties so far...

6 serphants destroyed
1 valkyrie destroyed
1 telagus destroyed

[freyr's mother]

*snort* Wow! I have no idea what's going on right now! :D But don't bother to fill me in, i'm a lost cause.

[immhotep]

You really dont like the serpents do you!

Round 3)

Remaining:
DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer = 18
DSG-312 Tegalus-class = 7
Goauld alkesh class bomber = 11
BC-305 Serpant Class =0
CIX-308 Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser = 20
SCVN-365 Aegis class = 1
EAC-502-columbia class assault carrier = 2
BC-304 Deadalus class battlecarrier = 4
F-302= 272 (64 on each of the columbias, 16 of the deadlui's and 80 on the Aegis)
Valkyrie class = 0

counter attack;
The whole fleet, consisting of the deadalus, columbia, unity, henry arnold, and tegalus class ships rally and lead a full offensive. Firing a combined armament of 400 nukes out of the 1222 remaining ordinants ( ive worked this out from the specs) at the dart screen aroudn the three remainging hives. 300 of the missiles are intercepted, 100 are not, and inpact the hives, two are hit with sizeable numbers of smaller Anti fighter weapons but there are several anti ship nukes in the fray. These hit and kill two hives.

that really is the amount of missiles in a fleet that size, ive done the maths!

[Buba uognarf]

no i don't like serpents:D...and you're blowing up my hives!

wraith round 3)

remaining

1 hive
5 predators
14 cruisers

1 hives and 7 cruisers destroy a deadalus

7 cruisers and 2 predators destroy a deadalus

3 predators destroy 1 telagus each

casulties

2 deadalus
3 telagus

your move:D

[immhotep]

Sorry, sinse and repeat :D

Round 3;

remaining:
Remaining:
DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer = 18
DSG-312 Tegalus-class = 4
Goauld alkesh class bomber = 11
BC-305 Serpant Class =0
CIX-308 Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser = 20
SCVN-365 Aegis class = 1
EAC-502-columbia class assault carrier = 2
BC-304 Deadalus class battlecarrier = 2
F-302= 272 (64 on each of the columbias, 16 of the deadlui's and 80 on the Aegis)
Valkyrie class = 0

All 302's are lauched, and sent along with the remaining tegalus's, alkesh and 12 Unitys to attack the remaining cruisers. They fire 1 strafing run and expend half thier ordinates. 7 of the cruisers are destroyed.
The columbia's and deadalus's closeing, they fire 200 missiles and a large volley of heavy rail gun fire. The remainging hive and 1 preditor are taken down after only 130 of the missiles are intercepted.

Enemy kills:
1 hive
1 preditor
7 cruisers


Im sorry i have to go to bed :( ill post my counter attack

[Buba uognarf]

hmmm....i'm beaten, a smart general would retreat, but i'm an idiot:D...

if i die i'm taking you with me! or atleast some of you...

remaining force...

4 predators
7 cruisers
200ish hundred darts

ok i think it's time to invent a new rule ramming! now if you allow me to ram you...

2 cruisers ram and destry 2 deadalus...

2 cruisers ram and destroy your battlecarriers

3 cruisers take out a telagus each...

1 predator rams the aigis carrier destroying it...

each predator takes out a ship of your choice:o

the darts destroy your alkesh and go splat on the shields of your other ships..

if you don't...

the darts go on a killing spree swarming the alkesh and destroying them they also destroy a few fighters...

the whole fleet focuses it's firepower on a few ships and take out a deadalus and a couple of arnolds cruisers...

your move:(

[NoDot]

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/754/sgh3.pngYou forgot to have three small circles randomly placed to represent Triumverent territory (i.e. go there and die horribly) and the smaller circle on the edge of one of the Triumverent circles to represent Krom territory (i.e. you don't know what's there, so don't go there)

[immhotep]

Round 5;

Henry arnold class cruisers, arm and lock missiles, they're payloads fire, 80 missiles launch and fire upon the remaining preditor and cruisers fleet. They have no dart remaining to screen them and are destroyed.

casulties
3 preditors
4cruisers

I won :D

Oh Nodot the map is set in 2024, at the begining of the allience war with the wraith, it does not include reaper, trumverent or krom territory because they are later additions to the war.

[Buba uognarf]

Round 5;

Henry arnold class cruisers, arm and lock missiles, they're payloads fire, 80 missiles launch and fire upon the remaining preditor and cruisers fleet. They have no dart remaining to screen them and are destroyed.

casulties
3 preditors
4cruisers

I won :D

Oh Nodot the map is set in 2024, at the begining of the allience war with the wraith, it does not include reaper, trumverent or krom territory because they are later additions to the war.

yeah you had a much larger fleet:D...but well done, i've thought of a rule for ramming if your interested...

why don't we try that battle again but this time i have a superhive:D, then we can see how balanced it is with the other ships...

[immhotep]

Sure , cept the supehive isnt created til 2027, a year after our campaign ends.
its true i had a much largers fleet, but my secret weapon is the henry arnold, its got loads of missiles, that fleet of 20 had 360 between them! thats like 60 hives! i was very impressed. But they are weak.

Anyways my turn :D

Allience ambush on Cirrus V

The allience dropped out of hyperspace on the 11 of november 2024. Cirrus V was one of the many designated Recharge points the Wraith used on their trips around the Pegasus galaxy. This one was targetted because it was unnervingly close to one of our key Trillium mines. ( trillium is an anceint varient of trinium found in the Pegasus galaxy, a substitude mineral used to build all ancient vessels, one of our major discoverys in fact and also a mineral sought by the wraith)
A mid size fleet was assumbed of( this is what i use when doing my 'maths' btw):



DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer = 12
Number of missiles =4 each (48)
main Rail guns= 3 (3000spm)
DSG-312 Tegalus-class = 8
Number of missiles = 2 each (16)
main Rail guns= 6 (6000spm)
Goauld alkesh class bomber = 4
Number of missiles = 0
CIX-308 Henry H. Arnold Class cruiser = 14
Number of missiles = 18 each (252)
main Rail guns= 3 (3000spm)
SCVN-365 Aegis class = 2
Number of missiles = 0
main Rail guns= 12 (120000spm)
EAC-502-columbia class assault carrier = 3
Number of missiles = 18 each (54)
main Rail guns= 6 (6000spm)
BC-304 Deadalus class battlecarrier = 1
Number of missiles = 16 each (16)
main Rail guns= 4 (4000spm)
F-302= 368 (64 on each of the columbias, 16 of the deadlui's and 80 on the Aegis)
Number of missiles = 4 each (1472)
Valkyrie class = 3
Number of missiles = 0

total capitol ships: 47
total fighters: (368)
total missiles: 386 (1472)
total rail guns: 34 (34000shots.per.minute)


The fleet drops out of hyperspace, the system has a large asteroid belt. Our fleet hides within and lays several choke points, knowing the wraith will have to cross the belt in order to land, rest or cull the highly populated planet.

All of the fighters are set to patrol duty and the smaller are spread throughout, the main capitol ships are stationed by the edge of the field.

The Stage is set. The pieces laid. The Wraith will come.

ok you have to fight now, this ones going to be interesting because its in an asteroid field :D

PS this may or may not be as good as i thought!! Others can join in btw, you can pick a side and fight ( join me :D!)

[Buba uognarf]

ok, i just want to see how the superhive matchs up in the grand scheme of things:D...

we should make up rules for asteroid fields etc..

ok i'm afraid my fleet is going to be far larger this time:)...

wraith

12 hives
15 predators
23 cruisers

6000 darts (500) in each hive

ok when you're ready...

[Aroura-Gate]

Immhotep dont forget about the Dagger fighter class that was designed to CUT through hives

[freyr's mother]

Immhotep dont forget about the Dagger fighter class that was designed to CUT through hives

He just signed off to go watch The 4400 finale, SG1 and SGA openers.

[immhotep]

Ssorry buba, ill have to take a raincheck on the asteroid battle, i have to go to a wedding 2moro and im leaving in a couple of hours. As to the fleet in general, ive asked the mods if the ship/ ship design community can have its own folder, where this will be able to expand in to. With space for the GWFRPG to grow, as well as the GWF visual animation to have its own thread. Myself and FM really do want to try and make this fleet modelled and animated in to a game.
Im going to be doing the fleet state of play document soon, i already made one which has all the images we currently have of each of the ships in the thread so if you want that then contact me or FM because we have copies.

If you are the creator of a ship in the fleet can you post links to any model files you have, or model said ship. Im trying to get all the models, images and spec together for al lthe fleet in one place so i can organise and standardise them. So it would really help. Thanks

[ray245]

Just a thought...can you guys please state where the models are from? Some of the models may be original and copywrited. At the least type out the link or say it's done by whom.

[freyr's mother]

Just a thought...can you guys please state where the models are from? Some of the models may be original and copywrited. At the least type out the link or say it's done by whom.

Its from several people on the forum who are talented. People like cooky and ZakeD. I'm sure I've left some out, but we're trying to get all the winning categories from way back when to be modeled in either Cinema 4D or the other one (i cant remember its name). No models are copyrighted, but the credit does go to the people who made them.

[Davidtourniquet]

I was gonna write a battle, just after the reaper war (while we are celebrating the defeat) where the wraith betray us and attack with our backs turned. But buba's kinda silenced that with us betraying them and the final showdown at earth. So best not break with canon. Any ideas for a battle I could do?

[Buba uognarf]

I was gonna write a battle, just after the reaper war (while we are celebrating the defeat) where the wraith betray us and attack with our backs turned. But buba's kinda silenced that with us betraying them and the final showdown at earth. So best not break with canon. Any ideas for a battle I could do?

sorry:S...you can do any battle you like, if you want to do after the Reapers then you could do us attacking the wraith if you wanted which is what happens after the Reapers are defeated (though not good:o )...

[Davidtourniquet]

For a start, you started the reaper direction, it should be upto you to finish.
Plus your idea including the final fight with the wraith sounds better than what I had planned.

Heres what I had in mind: The last trace of the reapers is destroyed.
The Tauri/Asgard/wraith alliance celebrates.
Fleet info is as follows

Wraith
195 hives
233 predators
456 cruisers
2000 darts
1 superhive

Tauri
Taugarith II
Leviathon
20 Serpent Battlecruisers
10 Aegis Carriers
5 Henry Arnold Cruisers
12 Unity Destroyers
8 Daedulus Battlecarriers

Asgard
Taugarith III
20 Oneills
5 Hammonds

Wraith open fire on the shieldless Leviathon, both Taugariths and as many ships as they can attack.
"Sir the wraith are opening fire on us"
"raise shields, return fire"

Remaining fleet:
5 Serpents
2 Aegis
1 Henry Arnold
5 Unity
4 Daedulus
2 Hammond
7 Oneills.

Wraith:
180 hives
210 Predators
400 Cruisers
1500 Darts
1 Superhive

"Contact Atlantis, inform them of the situation"
" Lieutenant, set a course for Atlantis, we've done all we can"
" Aye sir"
*Remaining Tauri/Asgard fleet leaves the area*

*Back at Atlantis*
" We were able to intercept one of their ship to ship messages before we left the area"
" Where they heading?"
" EARTH! and thanks to the hyperdrive modifications we gave them over the years, they will arrive in 3 days"

Maybe more of a bridge between the final reaper battle and Buba's wraith attack on Earth or does that sound too much like the end of series 2 of Atlantis.

[Buba uognarf]

For a start, you started the reaper direction, it should be upto you to finish.
Plus your idea including the final fight with the wraith sounds better than what I had planned.

Thanks i appreciate that, basically i'll tell you what i have planned for the next few months battle wise there will be bits of information along the way aswell but these are the battles;

- 2029 November - attack on wraith research facility, shows the roots of Reaper tech...called
Dark Omen
- 2031 july - The emergence of the Reapers, a wraith super soldier project gone wrong designed to resist the retro virus after a rouge faction of the alliance used the retro virus to devaste several wraith worlds this battle will show their conquest of the dark space and the battle against the wraith which halted the war and their advance to 2033...called
Genesis
- 2034 January - this battle is the greatest military defeat the wraith have every had where over 100 hives were tossed aside by the Reapers who then destroyed the home system of the wraith...called
Darkness Rising
- 2035 march - this is the final battle against the Reapers the largest battle possible in the history of the universe! over 500 reapers hives are involved!...called
Casulties of War or Sacrifices (not sure about the names if you can think of a better one please tell me!!!!)
- 2035 April - This it the last major engagement between the wraith and the alliance, the wraith are beaten they're divided and their power is broken but they're not finished yet...the sea's of earth will boil and the ground will run red with the blood of the tauri. Using a piece of advanced unknown technology the wraith make a daring last attack on earth in an attempt to deal a cripplying blow to the alliance and get revenge for ever daring to stand against the wraith...called
Grapes of Wrath

these are the battle i have planned what do you think?...what did you have planned? and i mean it do whatever you want just be careful that it doesn't conflict with whats already been written...

[Davidtourniquet]

I've added my idea to my last post.
But basically we conflict on 2 things (who betrays who and how fast the wraith get to Earth)

[Buba uognarf]

I've added my idea to my last post.
But basically we conflict on 2 things (who betrays who and how fast the wraith get to Earth)

my idea in more detail was the wraith using some unknown tech trivumnum(sp) to jump to earth in 30min with most of their fleet remnants the phoenix and hades battle fleets enter the portal after them and fighter a desperate battle in earths orbit where millions die...

[Davidtourniquet]

Mine was that the lantian fleet arrived back at atlantis resupplied and followed the wraith, but were about 3 hours behind. Leaving the Earth fleet to fight off as much of the wraith as possible, till the lantian fleet arrived at Earth and an absolute mega battle occurs, where although we defeat the wraith, a lot of Earth's major cities are badly damaged and there are a lot of casualties, civilian and Military.

[Buba uognarf]

Mine was that the lantian fleet arrived back at atlantis resupplied and followed the wraith, but were about 3 hours behind. Leaving the Earth fleet to fight off as much of the wraith as possible, till the lantian fleet arrived at Earth and an absolute mega battle occurs, where although we defeat the wraith, a lot of Earth's major cities are badly damaged and there are a lot of casualties, civilian and Military.

similar to mine then, but earth is taken completely by surprise in mine...i like the idea of a more sudden attack rather than waiting 3 days or 3 weeks to get there...

[Davidtourniquet]

I personally think 30 minutes is too fast, for that great a distance.

[Buba uognarf]

I personally think 30 minutes is too fast, for that great a distance.

thats the beauty of it, it's not their technology it allows to make a one way trip which would be otherwise impossible with an hour no time to prepare it makes it all the more desperate...

even if the wraith hyperdrives are faster they still need to make pit stops to recover from radition which is where they can be intercepted...

[Davidtourniquet]

Ah yes forgot about the radition problem. Another thing to lessen the amount of ships around Earth, maybe some of the fleet is attacking the Ori and pushing them back.

[Cameron Mitchel]

For a start, you started the reaper direction, it should be upto you to finish.
Plus your idea including the final fight with the wraith sounds better than what I had planned.

Heres what I had in mind: The last trace of the reapers is destroyed.
The Tauri/Asgard/wraith alliance celebrates.
Fleet info is as follows

Wraith
195 hives
233 predators
456 cruisers
2000 darts
1 superhive

Tauri
Taugarith II
Leviathon
20 Serpent Battlecruisers
10 Aegis Carriers
5 Henry Arnold Cruisers
12 Unity Destroyers
8 Daedulus Battlecarriers

Asgard
Taugarith III
20 Oneills
5 Hammonds

Wraith open fire on the shieldless Leviathon, both Taugariths and as many ships as they can attack.
"Sir the wraith are opening fire on us"
"raise shields, return fire"

Remaining fleet:
5 Serpents
2 Aegis
1 Henry Arnold
5 Unity
4 Daedulus
2 Hammond
7 Oneills.

Wraith:
180 hives
210 Predators
400 Cruisers
1500 Darts
1 Superhive

"Contact Atlantis, inform them of the situation"
" Lieutenant, set a course for Atlantis, we've done all we can"
" Aye sir"
*Remaining Tauri/Asgard fleet leaves the area*

*Back at Atlantis*
" We were able to intercept one of their ship to ship messages before we left the area"
" Where they heading?"
" EARTH! and thanks to the hyperdrive modifications we gave them over the years, they will arrive in 3 days"

Maybe more of a bridge between the final reaper battle and Buba's wraith attack on Earth or does that sound too much like the end of series 2 of Atlantis.
I finally saw why the henry Arnold was named the Henry Arnold. I can't believe I didnt pick up on the fact that he was the only USAF official to become a General of the Air Force (5-star General). Interesting stories you guys have here.

[Buba uognarf]

Ah yes forgot about the radition problem. Another thing to lessen the amount of ships around Earth, maybe some of the fleet is attacking the Ori and pushing them back.

ok not that i'm doing this on purupose but we're keeping the ori out of this, it would be impossible for earth to fight a war on 2 fronts like this...

the earth forces are weaker because most of them were sent to pegasus to help mop up the wraith...

[cooky]

I finally saw why the henry Arnold was named the Henry Arnold. I can't believe I didnt pick up on the fact that he was the only USAF official to become a General of the Air Force (5-star General). Interesting stories you guys have here.

I didn't mention that part about Arnold's rank when I introduced the ship (when I decided to use USAF generals for naming the 308's, I did a search on wikipedia for Air Force Generals, Arnold was the clear choice for the first ship in the class). I'd thought about doing so, but couldn't work it into the story line, so I just left it out. I've got a few details for most of my ships that I haven't shared cause they would have broken up the story I wanted to tell of the ship's history.

The biggest one for the Arnold class was that Henry H. "Hap" Arnold was an Army Air Corp Commander in WW2 who was instrumental in the formation of the US Air Force after the war, and subsequently became the first, and still only General of the Air Force, which is why he was honored with having the first 308 named after him. If memory serves, I did mention that all ships in the class are named for Air Force Generals, and that the class is nicknamed "The General's Ships"

[immhotep]

Hey guys im back!
David and buba, love your work, looking forward to the end of the wraith - attacking earth storyline

- 2029 November - attack on wraith research facility, shows the roots of Reaper tech...called
Dark Omen
- 2031 july - The emergence of the Reapers, a wraith super soldier project gone wrong designed to resist the retro virus after a rouge faction of the alliance used the retro virus to devaste several wraith worlds this battle will show their conquest of the dark space and the battle against the wraith which halted the war and their advance to 2033...called
Genesis
- 2034 January - this battle is the greatest military defeat the wraith have every had where over 100 hives were tossed aside by the Reapers who then destroyed the home system of the wraith...called
Darkness Rising
- 2035 march - this is the final battle against the Reapers the largest battle possible in the history of the universe! over 500 reapers hives are involved!...called
Casulties of War or Sacrifices (not sure about the names if you can think of a better one please tell me!!!!)
- 2035 April - This it the last major engagement between the wraith and the alliance, the wraith are beaten they're divided and their power is broken but they're not finished yet...the sea's of earth will boil and the ground will run red with the blood of the tauri. Using a piece of advanced unknown technology the wraith make a daring last attack on earth in an attempt to deal a cripplying blow to the alliance and get revenge for ever daring to stand against the wraith...called
Grapes of Wrath


Wow, they look awesome buba, cant wait.


ts from several people on the forum who are talented. People like cooky and ZakeD. I'm sure I've left some out, but we're trying to get all the winning categories from way back when to be modeled in either Cinema 4D or the other one (i cant remember its name). No models are copyrighted, but the credit does go to the people who made them.
and designed them ;) Whats the news with the modelling FM? cinema 4D...cool

Tauri
Taugarith II
Leviathon
20 Serpent Battlecruisers
10 Aegis Carriers
5 Henry Arnold Cruisers
12 Unity Destroyers
8 Daedulus Battlecarriers

Asgard
Taugarith III
20 Oneills
5 Hammonds

Wraith open fire on the shieldless Leviathon, both Taugariths and as many ships as they can attack.
"Sir the wraith are opening fire on us"
"raise shields, return fire"

when did we get a taugarith? and why did you blow up my ship! its like the one ship thats least likely to have powered down shields...ill let it go :D

Anyways great to be back.
Immhotep

[Buba uognarf]

hi immhotep, we're still undecided about the wraith attack on earth because the bit david wrote doesn't fit in with what i've already written and i wanted the leviathon to be in the final battle with the Cerberus...but we'll sort it out when i've done all the other battles...

and thanks hopefully they'll all work out:)

as for our campaign i'd like to write up our list of planets today if you can??

because that way attacking and defending will be more interesting as you can pick targets of strategic importance for example...wraith mining and constructuon facilities...and our battle will have more far reaching consequences...

what do you think?

[Davidtourniquet]

Well it proves how unprovoked the wraith attack was. I destroyed the 3 most powerful ships so it would leave us at a disadvantage.
Well we can have a 2nd leviathon at Earth, (we can build more than one of each ship). Maybe a joint idea, the wraith attack us (my idea) then leave for Earth in the 30 minute portal (Buba's idea), with a message sent to atlantis just before the surviving fleet follow the wraith into the portal.
We then have at Earth, the Leviathon, Cerberus and around another 20 ships plus a few oneills and hammonds plus the orbital defence platforms around Earth (but still far outnumbered).

[Buba uognarf]

Well it proves how unprovoked the wraith attack was. I destroyed the 3 most powerful ships so it would leave us at a disadvantage.
Well we can have a 2nd leviathon at Earth, (we can build more than one of each ship). Maybe a joint idea, the wraith attack us (my idea) then leave for Earth in the 30 minute portal (Buba's idea), with a message sent to atlantis just before the surviving fleet follow the wraith into the portal.
We then have at Earth, the Leviathon, Cerberus and around another 20 ships plus a few oneills and hammonds plus the orbital defence platforms around Earth (but still far outnumbered).

i just think it's more fitting if the wraith are already defeated when they attack earth, and it was us that broke the treaty showing the differnce between us and the ancients...it's kind of one last act of defiance...

and the battles going to be massive not just 20 alliance ships they wouldn't have a chance and earth wouldn't be that lightly defended...and i don't want the leviathon to be destroyed either:)...it doesn't make sense for the wraith to alert us to their plans anyway

[Davidtourniquet]

How big was the fleet before they all left to destroy the wraith then if a substantial amount went to pegasus and theres more than 20 ships surrounding Earth? Those 20 ships i suggested doesn't including the fleet arriving from pegasus behind the wraith and the asgard fleet already there.

[Buba uognarf]

immhotep says the fleet should be like 100 strong, i'd probably make it about 80 seeing as part it is sent to pegasus then we have about 100 ships coming from pegasus through the portal afterwards, Haded + phoenix...

[Davidtourniquet]

So you saying a total of 180 ships plus orbital defences vs a huge wraith fleet.

[Buba uognarf]

So you saying a total of 180 ships plus orbital defences vs a huge wraith fleet.

basically, though most of the defense fleet will be wiped out very quickly...

[Davidtourniquet]

I need you or immhotep to do attack points for the orbit defence platform I made. If it's possible and you want to use it in the battle.

[immhotep]

I think that having Earth defended heavily, then attacked by the wraith as a n actof defience is the best option, it just cooler IMO. I think if Earth is attacked and wins on its own (im trying to leave the asgard out of this atm) then it would prove to everyone that were just as tough as the ancients and can fight on our own two feet. Kinda like the end of the journey in that we needed everyone at the begining, then the asgard only, now were standing on our own. The fact we can protect ourselfs against the wriath in a massive all out attack, win and destroy the wraith in the same say would be incredible. I cant wait to do it.

About the planets buba, i really cnat do it 2night, i have to go to a party; but if david is online then maybe he could jot down some? thats if you want to pick a side ;) ...

[Buba uognarf]

I think that having Earth defended heavily, then attacked by the wraith as a n actof defience is the best option, it just cooler IMO. I think if Earth is attacked and wins on its own (im trying to leave the asgard out of this atm) then it would prove to everyone that were just as tough as the ancients and can fight on our own two feet. Kinda like the end of the journey in that we needed everyone at the begining, then the asgard only, now were standing on our own. The fact we can protect ourselfs against the wriath in a massive all out attack, win and destroy the wraith in the same say would be incredible. I cant wait to do it.

About the planets buba, i really cnat do it 2night, i have to go to a party; but if david is online then maybe he could jot down some? thats if you want to pick a side ;) ...

ok, i'll write of my planets anyway and you can say what you think

[immhotep]

ok thanks, sorry i will do it, im planning to spend 2moro with a hangover writing alot for the fleet, including the promised super guide :) So itll probley appear in the course of that being written.

PS us having the same sig really dosnt work! ;)

[Buba uognarf]

ok thanks, sorry i will do it, im planning to spend 2moro with a hangover writing alot for the fleet, including the promised super guide :) So itll probley appear in the course of that being written.

PS us having the same sig really dosnt work! ;)

lol...i'll post the wraith stuff tonight or tommorow as well then,

i thought the gateworld fleet banner was supposed to be for every member in the fleet:S...if you want me to change it i will

[immhotep]

no its ok, it just i looked through and i saw the banner and missed about 12 of your posts mistaking them for mine!

the fleet banner is for everyone :)

[Buba uognarf]

no its ok, it just i looked through and i saw the banner and missed about 12 of your posts mistaking them for mine!

the fleet banner is for everyone :)

oh right, lol, i see how it could be confusing...i someone could make a similar one then that would solve our problems:confused:

[immhotep]

i might go back to my genesis one soon, so dont worry, i change sigs quite often :) on the plus note there might be some new people come on the thread. My sigs are everywhere, 5000 posts really has milage:D

[Buba uognarf]

i might go back to my genesis one soon, so dont worry, i change sigs quite often :) on the plus note there might be some new people come on the thread. My sigs are everywhere, 5000 posts really has milage:D

lol, it deffinately does, what are you going to include in your guide to the virtual fleet?

[immhotep]

All of the ships specs, standardised with images and models that i can find. (might even make ones for those that have none)
A summery of what the fleet is/whos doing it etc.
A timeline of sorts or a summery of some of the main features of the fleet and its backstory ( the whole asgard/tauri allience stuff)
That will be a long document already, the designs date up about 16pages in the one i have already...im going to write the history of the tegalus myself because there isnt one and i cant wait for someone to do it. Yeah basicly everything thats relevent i geuss. I dont know how ill post it, because it will be huge, ill find a way.

[Davidtourniquet]

Between 7pm and 10pm (BST) I won't be online. If all 3 of us wanna take part in this, maybe one pick the wraith fleet, another the Defense Fleet and the other the pegasus fleet.

Stats for the Orbital defence platform:
10 in orbit, travelling at 500kps
Weaponry: 5million kW particle cannon
Shielding: 1 asgard shield.
Shields hold for the same time as a daedulus class battlecarrier
weapon damage equivilent to Asgard Oneill weapon strength.
Recharge time: 30 seconds

Hope this is ok, plus I noticed no-one has done. Battle points for the antartic weapon. However saying that the stats for atlantis are there, so besides the shield strength the weapons info will be the same.

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All of the ships specs, standardised with images and models that i can find. (might even make ones for those that have none)
A summery of what the fleet is/whos doing it etc.
A timeline of sorts or a summery of some of the main features of the fleet and its backstory ( the whole asgard/tauri allience stuff)
That will be a long document already, the designs date up about 16pages in the one i have already...im going to write the history of the tegalus myself because there isnt one and i cant wait for someone to do it. Yeah basicly everything thats relevent i geuss. I dont know how ill post it, because it will be huge, ill find a way.

shall i post the wraith and Reaper histories then? and will you be wanting the wraith fleet stats and the Reapers? will you need any battles?


Between 7pm and 10pm (BST) I won't be online. If all 3 of us wanna take part in this, maybe one pick the wraith fleet, another the Defense Fleet and the other the pegasus fleet.

i'm always the wraith:D...

you orbital canon, when you say Oneill weapon strength do you mean it has the same firepower as an Oneill or one of their weapons?