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immhotep
July 9th, 2006, 12:52 PM
My neg votes for round 2 of cruiser elimination go to:
- Serenity class 2
- helios
Sam fisher
July 9th, 2006, 12:53 PM
I vote against the Serenity and the Henry H. Arnold.
Davidtourniquet
July 9th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Helios and Arnold are my negative votes
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 9th, 2006, 02:07 PM
I vote against the Henry and the Helios. (shrug) I just support my creations, that's all.
And guys... Why didn't you include my Longinuss-class destroyer for the destroyer voting?
Ah, well, it's okay. I'm glad you guys thought my ships were worthy of consideration.
Oh! And I'd like to submit my Ranger-class starship as the main support/cargo ship of the fleet. You can see it here:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/30797673/
Here are the specs:
Ranger-class Starship
Type: Medium long-range hyperspace capable support ship
Technology base: Earth/Asgard
Nations: United States Navy/Marine Corps, United States Air Force, Royal Navy/Air Force, Russian Space Service, Royal Canadian/Australian Air Force, Tok'ra, Free Jaffa Nation, Genii Confederacy.
Naval Classification: Multi-role Transport
Hull: Trinium, carbon composites, trinium/steel alloy.
Decks: Six plus main cargo deck.
Dimensions:
~Length: 160m
~Width: 80m
~Height: 48m
Displacement: 4,800 tons (empty, 1 gee)
~Maximum Takeoff Weight: 20,000 tons (standard version); 38,000 tons (amphibious assault version).
Crew: 15
~Maximum Personnel: 1,500
~Troops: 800
~Craft: 10 Tel'tacs (or 24 Puddlejumpers, or 16 F-302s, or 8 Dropships). Usual airwing is a mix: 4 Tel'tacs, 2 Dropships, 8 Puddlejumpers, and 8 F-302s.
~Vehicles: Up to 20 Humvees, 16 Bradley fighting vehicles, 12 APTs, 6 M1A1 Abrams tanks, and 10 utility trucks (variable mix).
Powerplant: Mk. III Naquadah Reactor
Engines:
~Three ion-based sublight drives
~Two hyperspace window generators
~Antigravity Wave Generators
Weapons:
(Standard Version)
4 x Mk. II 20mm Point Defense Railguns x 10,000 rounds each
(Amphbious Assault Version) Includes:
4 x M102 105mm Cannons x 100 rounds each
6 x 25mm GAU-12 Gatling guns x 3,000 rounds each
(Escort Carrier Version) Includes:
2 x MK-44 Guided Missile Round Packs (GMRP) for space-modified RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles (20 rounds each)
(Apis-subclass)
4 Class 3 Staff Cannons
6 Class 2 Staff Cannons
1 Energy Bomb Launcher
Defenses:
~Asgard shields
~Reactive Armor
~Sensor Decoy Launchers
~Cloak (optional)
Other Technology:
~Asgard Transporters
~Gou'ald Rings
~Advanced Subspace Communications Transceiver Array (Command ship version)
Technical and Historical Notes:
Big, boxy, heavily armored, powerful, and endlessly adaptable, the Ranger-class starship was built by the first dedicated starship construction firm on Earth, Star Works Inc. Though this company remains top secret, it has already made a substantial profit by providing Earth and her allies with a starship that simply refuses to become obselete.
Fulfilling a 2004 top secret request for a long-range support ship for Earth's future spacefleet, the fledgling corporation (previously employed creating spare engine parts for the Space Shuttle program) went through a crash course to devise the X-330. A large, unelegant craft, the Ranger nevertheless was easy to build, and with it's interchangable modules and simple construction, was easily altered to fit several different roles.
The standard Ranger can haul an entire Marine Expeditionary Unit, plus their equipment and vehicles, to any world within 5,000 lightyears in only a few days. It's tough, double-hulled construction makes it rugged enough to survive rough landings, asteroid collisions, and direct enemy weapons fire with little loss of performance. It's powerful, Mk. III naquada reactor lets it take punishment that even late-model Gou'ald motherships would have trouble surviving. And, it's variable-gravity cargo bays grant it a far greater cargo capacity than comparable Gou'ald vessels.
The Ranger can serve as a simple cargo vessel (able to carry thousands of tons of food, medicine, replacement parts, weapons and other supplies), an amphibious assault transport, an escort carrier, a fleet command ship, a hospital ship, a survey vessel, an evacuation transport-Even a tender vessel, when equipped with docking modules. It can keep up with a Daedalus-class starship in normal space and hyperspace travel, though takes much longer to achieve orbit and land. The Ranger's only true flaw is it's inability to carry large numbers of missiles or heavy energy weapons. However, this is not part of her role, and therefore is less a flaw than a mere limitation.
The Free Jaffa, originally wary of using Taur'i technology, have become one of the biggest users of the Ranger (which they call the Apis, the Gou'ald word for bull). Converted to carry Deathgliders, it can carry 24 of these fighters and gives the Free Jaffa far greater air support than standard motherships. The Tok'ra prefer it to Ha'tak-class motherships, and frequently upgrade their Rangers with Tok'ra-style interfaces and
corridors.
With it's armor, Asgard technology, and weapons removed, it has been pressed into service as a civilian cargo freighter for the Free Jaffa, and a few like this have also been sold to a few peoples in the Pegasus Galaxy.
Star Works hopes to come out with a next-generation version of the Ranger in the next few years. However, current Ranger demand and production is showing no signs of slowing down. The class itself is expected to remain in service for several decades to come, and the design... Who knows?
If you'd like, feel free to create your own variants of the Ranger as well
immhotep
July 9th, 2006, 02:17 PM
That ship is more like a battleship than a support craft...actually just reread, its brilliant! AJT, glad ure active again i was hoping you would get involved with this. Your homeowrld defence posts/views will come in handy later on.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 9th, 2006, 02:19 PM
That ship is more like a battleship than a support craft. AJT, glad ure active again i was hoping you would get involved with this. Your homeowrld defence posts/views will come in handy later on.
Buh? What do you mean, more like a battleship than a support craft? She's a very big transport that can be converted to fulfill many roles. However, "battleship" is not one of them.
THank you for the compliments though.
immhotep
July 9th, 2006, 02:25 PM
i read it wrong, i thought she had all the hatak cannons and the missiles in one, i misread the module bit.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 9th, 2006, 02:29 PM
i read it wrong, i thought she had all the hatak cannons and the missiles in one, i misread the module bit.
No worries. I'm still a bit miffed that you guys didn't vote on my Longinuss-class destroyer. Or the Vortex-class destroyer one of my friends created.
immhotep
July 9th, 2006, 02:37 PM
You should have been on here earlier, im sorry, there are only so many designs i can look at...and i did look through all of yours...there all good, how do i pick them all without calling it the AJT fleet.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 9th, 2006, 02:52 PM
You should have been on here earlier, im sorry, there are only so many designs i can look at...and i did look through all of yours...there all good, how do i pick them all without calling it the AJT fleet.
Dude, if my ships do the job best, then why not select them? (shrug) That's how our military works in real life. If a single company makes the best equipment, then you continue to buy from them. It's pretty simple.
Oh! And here's a science/reconaissance frigate ship class for the fleet as well:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/Argo.jpg
The Argo-class frigate is essentially an uprated Icarus-class survey and science vessel. Meant primarily as a patrol and survey vessel, it is well armed with one forward-firing 150mm coil gun, six defensive rail guns, and 40 VMLS tubes lining it's dorsal hull. She's about the same size as an Al'kesh, but much better armed. Combined with her Asgard shields, cloak, and beaming technology, and she's able to hold her own against anything up to a Wraith cruiser. As a frigate, she escorts larger vessels or weaker vessels quite effectively, and supports fleet actions. As a survey/patrol ship, she also performs very well. She has a crew of about 25, though can carry up to 200.
DaCk
July 9th, 2006, 04:59 PM
My negative votes go
1-serenity
2-Helios
Dinger
July 9th, 2006, 09:30 PM
you guys are thinking way to big in: expensive, material, and personnal. why not go smaller and more mass produced to keep more eyes and ears out in the galaxy
Achilles
Long Range Frigate Class
(X-305)
Type: Very Small long-range hyperspace capable patrol ship
Technology base: Earth/Asgard/Gou’ald/Serrakin
User/s: United States Navy and United States Air Force
Naval Classification: Light Frigate/Scout/Fighter
Dimensions:
~Length: 60m (196.85 feet)
~Width: 22m (72.18 feet)
~Height: 14m (45.93 feet)
*Floors: 3 decks
Displacement: 62 tons
Crew: 19 (minimum requirements 4, maximum capacity 34)
~Commander (Lt. Col.)
~XO/First Mate/Number One (Maj.)
~2 pilots/communications (Captains or 1st Lt.)
~2 weapons/sensors (Chief Warrant Officers or SFC)
~2 gunners (SGT or Senior Airmen)
~2 ammo chiefs (SSG or SGT)
~transporter chief (SGT)
~2 engineers (Civ.)
~archaeologist/linguist (Civ.)
~3 Marines (TL - Captain, Gunner & Sniper - Senior Airmen through SSG)
~Medical Doctor (Captain)
~Nurse (Lt. or Civ.)
Power plant: Mk. III Naquada Reactor
Engines:
~2 ion-based sub light drives
~1 hyperspace window generator
~Antigravity wave generator network
Weapons:
~2 forward energy weapons (human made versions of the large staff weapons)
~1 top dual barreled rail gun turret
~1 lower dual barreled rail gun turret
~1 missile tube (2 anti-capital ship naquadria-style missiles, also 6 sensor satellites)
Defenses:
~Asgard shields
~Cloaking Device
~Reactive armor plating
Other Technology:
~Asgard transporters
~Asgard sensors
~Gou'ald Rings
Technical Notes:
Mid Deck Forward
~Bridge
*Crew - 2 to 4
~Transporter Room
*Crew - 1 (only on duty for 8 hour shift but can be called upon to come and man post again at anytime)
Top Deck Forward
~Top Rail Gun Turret
*Crew - 2 (only man the turret during red alert, ammo in room beside turret)
Lower Deck Forward
~Lower Rail Gun Turret
*Crew - 2 (only man the turret during red alert, ammo in room beside turret)
Mid Deck Central
~Quarters
*Captains Cabin (8’x8’)
*XO’s Cabin (8’x8’)
*Marine Team Leader’s Room (8’x8’)
*8 two man crew rooms (design is bunk bed with two wall lockers 8’x8’)
*2 four man guest rooms (design is two bunk beds with 2 pull out footlockers under each double bunk 8’x8’)
~Brig
*3 one man cells (6’x4’)
~Medical room
*operating/check-up room (10’x12’)
*morgue (6’x8’)
*ICU room (4 beds, 10’x20’)
~Supply room (20’x10’)
All Decks Aft
~Engine/power supply room
Historical Notes:
With the price to build Deep Space Carrier class ships to great, but the need for ships stronger then fighters still around, Jonas Quinn came up with an idea for a smaller yet still effective ship.
Using the technology the Asgard has already given us for beam and hyper drive technology, the Serrakin ion propulsion sub light engine, and the tok’ra cloaking technology, the designers scaled down the crew, bulk, and carrier capabilities till ship design was 1/3 the size of the original x-303. Now with the cost to build these ships so low, 6 are now in production stage while one experimental craft is completed and being used to gather information on galactic events. These ships can also run as heavy fighter escort for capital ships in hyperspace. Currently the Achilles is in patrol between the many worlds under Earth protection and interest. Earth, Alpha site, Beta site, new Gamma site, Mining Operation planet, Pangar, Tagria, Orban, Langaria, Land of Light, Ardena(Stromo survivors and link people survivors), and several more planets. Since Jonas Quinn helped make the design for it he was aloud to take the designs back to his people who are currently constructing 3 of there own though they have limited resources for them and must trade with earth to get trinium and other materials. Also Langaria is not getting any weapon designs just the power, engines, sensors, and beaming technology.
Fleet:
Currently Earth has made three DSC class ships: Daedulus, Odyssey, and Korolev(may be destroyed), one BC class ship: Prometheus(destroyed), one LRF class ship: Achilles(going through shake down and experimental stage), and about 100 F-302 fighter/interceptors. Main Fleet gathering point is the Mountain Hangar area on the Alpha site, and one ancient city/ship with several puddle jumpers, 2 Tel‘Taks, 1 Al‘kesh, and a few death gliders including one old stargate traveling death glider, and one SS.
~Production:
Russia is almost complete with there F-303a2 BC class ship, USA has 2 DSC in production one near completion, a few dozen fighters in production in several nations now, and USA has 6 LRFs in production 2 near completion, and 11 SS’s in production
Steven_the_Atlantean
July 9th, 2006, 10:21 PM
My Neg vote for this round goes to,...................................
Serenity-class cruiser and Gladius
immhotep
July 10th, 2006, 02:44 AM
Ok, so im currently in a free at school, im really bored and by some miricle the blocking system at my school has failed :D
Therefore im taking the initative and exploiting my free time to bring your the next chapter of the Orilla fury opperation:
Orilla fury: Mark II
After the foothold project was attacked and destroyed the wriath turned it attendion to atlantis once more;
14 years ago ( prsent - 2025) the Wraith invaded atlantis, to our aid came the asgard, the most powerful warships were sent and the wraith ellimated, for now.
They had not come just to defeat the wraith, the asgard had bigger plans. Atlantis, in there mind was the perfect ship. It was what they had strived to build for millenia, Earth had atlantis, and they wanted the plans.
The Asgard Set up a protected ring of star systems in pegasus, these systems were used to provide the asgard and tauri with the resources to build and contruct one of the most ambitious joint fleet projects in history.
The system were protected by three oniel warships, each oniel could take on 10 or more hive ships, the wraith simply had no option but to comply to the non aggression demands of the asgard.
This ring was a pre-emptive move to secure asgard territory in the pegasus galaxy. In each of the systems ship docks to construct a new asgard fleet, with labgour taken from the planets below and from earth.
The new fleet would be born from two places, one is the ancients, atlantis, a new breed of asgard city ship, the oneils were not mobile command centres as atlantis is, and the asgard believed this design suited thier needs, they planned to build atlanti's as the new asgard flagship, but needed the ATA gene as well a a human crew to make it work proficently.
For the use of our man power adn the atlantis design that asgard would allow tauri fleet command to use their ship building facilities in pegasus, as well as excess resources in order to build a supplementary asgard fleet.
THis new fleet would be the next stage in the asgard/tauri allience, flag ships of alteran/human/asgard design, capital/secondary ships by the Tauri. All manned by both races.
The dawn of a new partnership to aid in the destruction of the wraith and the ultimate revenge of the destruction of the asgard base they had destroyed.
Feedback :) Immhotep
benjaminism
July 10th, 2006, 05:02 AM
Phoenix
Type: Mid-ranged Warship
Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
Length: 170m
Decks: 6
Deck Heights: 4m
Construction: Trinium reinforced with naquada.
Crew: 47
Powerplant: Four naquada reactors with recharge capability
Propulsion: Two hyperspace window generators
Three ion-based sublight drives
Anti-gravity wave generators
Weapons: 64x Mk IV Nuclear Missiles with naquada fuelled reactors
6x (4 bottom and 2 top which are retractable) Railguns positioned for full 180 by 360 degree targeting. Railgun ammo contains small amounts of Naqahdriah for better penetration and damage capability
4x (2 bottom and 2 top which are retractable) Energy Cannons positioned for full 180 by 360 degree targeting
Defenses: Asgard shields
Cloaking device
Other technology: Asgard transporter/sensor technology
Rings
Notes:
Originally designed to be defence ship working in a three ship group, the larger power plant capability allowed the ship better movement. This lead to the production of the ship as an attack craft working in unison with larger fleet vessels. Its offensive capabilities designed for 360 degree targeting allowed for defensive and protection tactics too leading to it being a two ship group working on a flanking manoeuvre allowing for a maximum damage and threat range while not reducing the defensive capability of the ship.
A new design is to make the ship smaller and more nimble without losing too much of the offensive and defensive capability.
immhotep
July 10th, 2006, 06:23 AM
ok im not getting this through, please dont post actual ship designs here
benjaminism
July 10th, 2006, 06:29 AM
ok im not getting this through, please dont post actual ship designs here
Sorry
immhotep
July 10th, 2006, 07:15 AM
Its not you, but i said that this is about the fleet, which while it does contain ship designs in order for people to vte; all of these designs are being brought from elsewhere, i like you ships it good, a little quirky but nothing too wrong with it...
So no ship design post here are likely to get in the fleet because were judging and voting on things that are already around, posting in this thread is just cluttering it up. The OSDT is the place to go :)
Cam_Mitchell
July 10th, 2006, 07:34 AM
The fighters look cool whoever drew them wow. Umm does anyone know what wepons the ori used because they would be good for our main ship. and i think we should have our hanger bays like BSG have then i really liek the look of them. 1 last think i think if possivle we should keep nukes on bord not two many but just one or 2.
--Gaz--
immhotep
July 10th, 2006, 07:59 AM
If anyone puts an ori cannon on our ships i want them shot! We will never have the understanding of thier weapons to be able to retrofit them, we have been allys with the asgard for 6years, been playing in goauld MS's for 10 years + movie and we havent even got hatak weapons...its just totally fanwank to put ori pawnage cannons on our ships. Staff cannons, super rail guns, plasma turrets/hatak cannons and ion cannons are the weapons that might be avalable. Maybe an asgard main weapon at some point but never ori cannons.
freyr's mother
July 11th, 2006, 04:21 AM
My Neg vote for this round goes to,...................................
Serenity-class cruiser and Gladius
Gladius is already out. Pick another
freyr's mother
July 11th, 2006, 04:27 AM
Sorry I was so late. The entire campus network crapped out for a while. The second round for cruiser neg voting is done.
The neg vote tally was as follows:
Serenity -7
Helios -5
H H Arnold -4
Serenity is out, commencing round 3
_____________________________________________________________
Things left are:
- Helios Class by Wraith Scientist
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7964/helios3is.png
Shaped like a hexagonal prism - simple to build and narrow profile head-on
Usually the magnetic cannon will disable enemy ships before they come into firing range, and extended missile bombardment is lethal. Also, the ships are resistant to fragmentation and can survive quite a bit of damage (ie. they don't act like they've been packed with dynamite like most sci-fi ships) or at least enough damage until the crew can get to the lifepods (on the underside).
Designed for maximum durability. Heavily armoured with isolated compartments to reduce risk of depressurisation. Asgard shields protect the vessel. It is structurally sound with honeycombed hull reinforcement. The bridge is burried deep inside the ship behind thick reinforced armour and hull, rather than vunerably exposed.
Missile pods down the sides. Each missile pod carries hundreds of missiles. The ship is capable of unleashing a rapid barrage of missiles when turned side-on to an enemy ship/battle group which can quickly rip all but the most heavily armoured/shielded ship to pieces. Missile pods reinforced and covered by heavy doors on the surface of the ship to prevent accidental detonation of missile payload.
Heavy magnetic cannon (linear coilgun/railgun hybrid) runs parallel to the fusion reactor. Slow rate of fire but fires devastating ferrous-tungsten projectiles capable of severely damaging enemy ships and overloading shields. Can fire in short, fast bursts of up to three rounds at reduced power. When firing the main cannon, the engines flare to compensate for the recoil.
No unnecessarily advanced equipment. Standard engines and hyperdrive. No asgard teleporters etc.
Able to be mass produced quickly at very low cost. Very flexible
- Henry H. Arnold Class by cooky
Henry H. Arnold Class Cruiser
__-308 cruiser
Length 149m
Width 90m
Hight 28m
FTL: 304 class hyperdrive/main generator.
Defenses: Modified 304 class defense shield.
Capital ship weapons: 18 vertical launch missle silos. 3 main rail guns (same as 304's main guns)
Point defense weapons: 10 anti-fighter rail guns. 2 RAM launcher systems each armed with 21 block 2 space capable missles.
Crew: 52
The 308 class cruiser was designed in '08-'09. Intended primarilly to serve as an anti-fighter gunship, the 308 class vessels were the first capital star ships to incorporate a modified AEGIS class weapons control system, specially designed for use in space warfare. This gives the 308 class cruiser a powerfull anti-fighter capability. The addition of 3 large calibure rail guns equivilant to a 304's main guns and 18 vert. launch missile silos give the 308 a potent anti-capital ship capability as well.
The first 308, named after Air Force General Henry H. Arnold was comission in January 2010. It first saw combat two months later when it engaged two wraith hive ships in the Pegasus Galaxy along with the Daedalus class ship Enceladus. Post battle analysis of the sensor records credited the Arnold with 1 wraith cruiser kill, 36 Dart kills, and 7 partial kills. It was deamed a tremendous success and the Air Force requested they go into full production immedeatly. Future ships in the class would be named for other Airforce Generals, giving the 308's the nickname "The General's Ships."
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../marsfleet.jpgBig
Everyone will get one neg vote this round. Begin
This was a very hard decision for me to make. But, my neg vote goes to the Henry H. Arnold.
freyr's mother
July 11th, 2006, 04:30 AM
If you want to submit a new design for a clas of vessel that has not been voted on yet and whose class has not been passed over by voting yet, PM me.
immhotep
July 11th, 2006, 06:01 AM
Im negging the helios
Sam fisher
July 11th, 2006, 07:13 AM
I vote against the Henry H. Arnold.
Davidtourniquet
July 11th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Vote against the helios
Nik'ver
July 11th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Negative vote for Helios
tobi
July 11th, 2006, 10:11 AM
Negative vote for helios
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 11th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Support Craft
~ Andrew Joshua Talon's EC-332 Albatross/"Flapper"
~Designation: EC-332
~Codename: Albatross/"Flapper"
~Type: Multi-role light transport (A-, B- and C- versions); ring relay platform (D-version); Aerospace Early Warning (AEW) craft (E-version); reconaissance/covert operations (F-version); gunship (H-version)
~Contractor: Northrop Grumman/Area 51
~Crew: One pilot, one co-pilot; capacity for ten passengers/six litters
~Dimensions:
o Length: 17.2 meters
o Wing span (unfolded): 20.3 meters
o Height: 5.8 meters
o Wing area: 45 meters^2
~Weights:
o Empty: 10,240 kilograms
o Maximum take-off weight: 42,200 kilograms
~Powerplant:
o One Mk. II naquada generator
o Two Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 afterburning turbofans
o Two Lockheed Martin Skunkworks RA-302 high-altitude aerospike engines
o Two Area 51 Anti-gravity wave generators
o Hyperspace window generator (F-version only: can be part of a mission package for other variants)
~Performance:
o Maximum speed below 80,000 feet: Mach 2.2
o Maximum high-altitude velocity: Mach 8+
o Combat radius within an atmosphere: 80,935 kilometers
o Maximum acceleration potential: 20+ gees
o Climb rate (sea level to low Earth orbit): 53 seconds
~Weapons:
o 6 x underwing external hardpoints for a variety of weapons
(AC-332-H Gabriel variant only):
o 1 x remote-turret mounted 20mm rail gun x 5,000 rounds
o 1 x 50 MW Free Electron Laser Turret
~Defenses:
o RADAR jamming system
o Sodan Cloaking Device
~Users: United States Air Force/Army/Navy/Marine Corps, Russian Space Service, Royal Navy/Air Force, Colonial Remnant, Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Australian Air Force, German Luftwaffe, Japanese Air Defense Force/Maritime Defense Force.
~Background:
Originally intended as the Tau'ri version of the Ancient Puddlejumper-type utility craft, the EC-332 Albatross (or "Flapper", as it is affectionately known) has become the premier support craft for most of Earth's space forces.
Built with technology and equipment from the F/A-22 and F-302 programs, the EC-332 can easily keep up with these strike fighters, and possesses the ability to fold her wings forward while in flight-Allowing the Albatross to fly through an active Stargate. Her weapons and cargo carriage capabilities are very impressive, able to keep a significant force re-supplied on the ground. And, her Sodan Cloaking technology makes her perfect for running resupply missions even when the local Stargate is occupied by enemy forces.
No ship in the Tau'ri Fleet is without at least two of these useful craft, possessing the manueverability of an AV-8B Harrier, the speed of an F-302, the versatility of a Puddlejumper, and the durability of a Tel'tac. The Free Jaffa Nation has recently bought a few examples for evaluation.
For the Virtual Fleet. In a future vote. Just adding it in.
Oh, and I negative vote both ships. Those aren't what cruisers are supposed to be from a naval standpoint.
Wraith Scientist
July 11th, 2006, 11:05 AM
If I can vote, I'll neg the Henry H. Arnold Class
DaCk
July 11th, 2006, 11:26 AM
I neg the helios
freyr's mother
July 11th, 2006, 12:26 PM
Support Craft
~ Andrew Joshua Talon's EC-332 Albatross/"Flapper"
~Designation: EC-332
~Codename: Albatross/"Flapper"
~Type: Multi-role light transport (A-, B- and C- versions); ring relay platform (D-version); Aerospace Early Warning (AEW) craft (E-version); reconaissance/covert operations (F-version); gunship (H-version)
~Contractor: Northrop Grumman/Area 51
~Crew: One pilot, one co-pilot; capacity for ten passengers/six litters
~Dimensions:
o Length: 17.2 meters
o Wing span (unfolded): 20.3 meters
o Height: 5.8 meters
o Wing area: 45 meters^2
~Weights:
o Empty: 10,240 kilograms
o Maximum take-off weight: 42,200 kilograms
~Powerplant:
o One Mk. II naquada generator
o Two Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 afterburning turbofans
o Two Lockheed Martin Skunkworks RA-302 high-altitude aerospike engines
o Two Area 51 Anti-gravity wave generators
o Hyperspace window generator (F-version only: can be part of a mission package for other variants)
~Performance:
o Maximum speed below 80,000 feet: Mach 2.2
o Maximum high-altitude velocity: Mach 8+
o Combat radius within an atmosphere: 80,935 kilometers
o Maximum acceleration potential: 20+ gees
o Climb rate (sea level to low Earth orbit): 53 seconds
~Weapons:
o 6 x underwing external hardpoints for a variety of weapons
(AC-332-H Gabriel variant only):
o 1 x remote-turret mounted 20mm rail gun x 5,000 rounds
o 1 x 50 MW Free Electron Laser Turret
~Defenses:
o RADAR jamming system
o Sodan Cloaking Device
~Users: United States Air Force/Army/Navy/Marine Corps, Russian Space Service, Royal Navy/Air Force, Colonial Remnant, Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Australian Air Force, German Luftwaffe, Japanese Air Defense Force/Maritime Defense Force.
~Background:
Originally intended as the Tau'ri version of the Ancient Puddlejumper-type utility craft, the EC-332 Albatross (or "Flapper", as it is affectionately known) has become the premier support craft for most of Earth's space forces.
Built with technology and equipment from the F/A-22 and F-302 programs, the EC-332 can easily keep up with these strike fighters, and possesses the ability to fold her wings forward while in flight-Allowing the Albatross to fly through an active Stargate. Her weapons and cargo carriage capabilities are very impressive, able to keep a significant force re-supplied on the ground. And, her Sodan Cloaking technology makes her perfect for running resupply missions even when the local Stargate is occupied by enemy forces.
No ship in the Tau'ri Fleet is without at least two of these useful craft, possessing the manueverability of an AV-8B Harrier, the speed of an F-302, the versatility of a Puddlejumper, and the durability of a Tel'tac. The Free Jaffa Nation has recently bought a few examples for evaluation.
For the Virtual Fleet. In a future vote. Just adding it in.
Oh, and I negative vote both ships. Those aren't what cruisers are supposed to be from a naval standpoint.
You can't add one ship into a category where it will be the only one and I asked you to PM me the design. Secondly, you're only allowed one vote for this round.
freyr's mother
July 11th, 2006, 12:44 PM
I am going to close the Round three Cruiser elimination poll in ten minutes.
freyr's mother
July 11th, 2006, 12:55 PM
Here are the total tallies for the neg voting in Round 3 of the Cruiser eliminations:
HHARNOLD -3
HELIOS -5
Helios is done. If it were up to me I'd keep both, but it wouldn't be fair to the people who voted. Good-bye Helios. *salutes*
Okay people, we're moving on to Battlecruiser eliminations, here are the choices:
Battlecruiser
BC-305 'Serpant' class by JRPR
BC-305 'Serpant' class
Type: Battle Cruser
Technology Base: Earth/Asgard/Goauld
Hull: Titanium/titanium Alloy with Carbon composites
Dimensions:
-Length: 150m
-Width: 80m
-Height: 40m
Crew: 50
Powerplant: Mk. IV Naquadah Generator
Engines:
advanced hyperspace window generator
Two advanced ion-based sublight drives
Next genaraton advanced Anti-gravity wave generators
Weapons:
-6 fixed forward firing heavy coil guns 1000 rounds each
-4 remote controled light coil guns 1000 rounds each
-24 tactical naquada enhanced nuclear warheads
-1 gate buster class space mine (as it could have helped by laying some near the event horizon of the super gate in camalot)
Defenses:
-Inert Naquadah Plating in certain areas
-Asgard designed shields
Other tech:
-Sensor masking counter measures (when the counter measures are activated the ship starts giving of false dummy ship signitures in different positions around the enemy ship making it harder to get a lock on the real ship)
-AFC (adaptable flight computer) This is a state of the art computer that is intagrated in to the sensor, comunicational and flight systems. It has tactical, evasive and aggresive manuevers programed in to the system. It is highly inteligent and is able to analyse enemy attack patterns and formulate an evasive pattern to counter it.
-Asgard sensor tech
-Asgard Beeming tech
-Gou'ald rings
A brief technical history:
-The BC 305 project codenamed 'Serpant' began in 2006 to attempt to counter the Ori threat. A group project between the British, French and American govornment to maximise productivity. After the korlev was destrodyed at the hands of the ori it was clear that a faster more manueverable ships were needed.
It has been made clear that the ori ships main weapon is a slow fireing directed weapon. The BC 305 manages this in several ways. First of all it has advanced anti grav wave genarators to alow it to perform more complex sharp manuevers. Also as the oir ships must be facing the target to shoot at it it 305 features advanced sublight drives to help out manuever and get behind the Ori ships.
The sensor masking countermeasures take advantage of the fact that an ori ship can only fire on one vessle at a time, the countermeasures make the probability of a direct hit to the ship much lower. Finaly the advanced flight computer, once activated it will continuously scan the ori vessle to detect a weapon power up, once it detacts that the weapon is about to be discarged it will alter direction and begin evasive flight to dodge the energy blast.
This ship was designed to be used in small swarms as a single 305 can only have limited effect on an ori ships shield. The international involvement alows greater amounts of these ships to be built in a shorter amount of time.
Rapture(I) class BS-306 Battlecruiser
Rapture(I) class BS-306 Battlecruiser
Dimensions:
Length: 800m
Width: 400m
Height: 150m
Volume: 48 million cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 175
Maximum Personal: 550
Material:
Reinforced Trinium-Titanium
Defensive Weaponry:
7x main defensive railguns (5 fore, 2 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
36x Mark VIII Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear Missiles (18 silos)
24x Mark IX (Gatebuster) Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear Missiles (12 silos)
4x Tauri/asgard made, Tollan designed Ion Cannons (3 fore, 1 aft)
Armour:
Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Shield:
1x Asgard Shield Generator
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Fighters:
Up to 12x F-302A Raven
Power:
12x Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Engines
1x Asgard hyperspace generator
5x Ion sublight engines (Capable of 85% LS, at max sublight speed, ship is 1.9 times heavier)
6x Fusion thrusters (Capable of speeds up to 100 km/s)
4x manoeuvring thrusters
Other Tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming tech
Rings
History of the Rapture Class
After 5 years of designing and testing with the Asgard, the first ship-based ion cannons are being used on the Rapture. Thanks in turn to the design the tollan gave us. This is the first collective development of a piece of weaponry between the Asgard and the Tauri.
The Rapture is the first ship to be built in space by the Tauri, because of it’s size, no where on Earth can build this ship. Hence this is the first official International starship.
On other things, the active camouflage made be upgraded to show the ship as an enemy’s ship. Testing will include the craft being show as a wraith hiveship.
The F-302A Raven’s designed by MilleniumLance are used in this ships running instead of the F-302s.
The crew is made up of an international team, led by Captain Christopher Doon from the Royal Air Force.
While only having a crew of 175, the ship has enough atmosphere for 550 people.
As usual with two ships everyone will get one neg vote. My neg vote goes to the:
Rapture (I) class BC-306
freyr's mother
July 11th, 2006, 12:57 PM
Here are the current standings:
Carrier NOT CURRENTLY POLLING
-DSC 308 longsword by JRPR
Battlecarrier NOT CURRENTLY POLLING
-DSBC-401 By Freyr’s Mother
Battleship NOT CURRENTLY POLLING
-The BS-101 (Battleship) by deadman(needs a little work, but it's got potential)
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship by deadman (needs some work)
Battlecruiser POLLING HAS BEGUN
-BC-305 'Serpant' class by JRPR
-Rapture(I) class BC-306 Battlecruiser by Davidtourniquet
Cruiser POLLING HAS CLOSED
-Serenity Class Cruiser by Andrew Joshua Talon
-Helios-class cruiser by Wraith Scientist
-Gladius Class Cruiser by Andrew Joshua Talon
-Henry H. Arnold Class Cruiser __-308 cruiser by cooky WINNER
Destroyer POLLING HAS CLOSED
-Andrew Joshua Talon's Abydos Class Destroyer
-Milleniumlance's DDX-306 /Unity-class Advanced Destroyer WINNER
Gunship RECIEVED A BYE
-DSG-312 Tegalus-class Gunship by Daryl Froggy
Fighters BOTH HAVE WON FIGHTER ROLES
- F-302A Raven by Milleniumlance
- F/B-307 by Cooky
immhotep
July 11th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Tough choice but the Rapture(I) class BS-306 has to get my neg. Partly because the Ion cannons make it too heavy and partly becuase the serpant is quite possible my favourate design on Gw or was, its so perfect to be our next 'alkesh' type craft that i cant no vote possitive for it. Plus if were doing this 3D JRPR is already modelling it.
tobi
July 11th, 2006, 01:03 PM
i neg the serpant
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 11th, 2006, 01:34 PM
You can't add one ship into a category where it will be the only one and I asked you to PM me the design. Secondly, you're only allowed one vote for this round.
Er, sorry about that. Okay, I vote neg to the Rapture. The Serpent looks much better.
cooky
July 11th, 2006, 03:09 PM
Oh, and I negative vote both ships. Those aren't what cruisers are supposed to be from a naval standpoint.
What specs would you give the Arnold to make it a cruiser? For comparison, the Ticonderoga guided missile cruiser, which is America's only active cuiser class. The Arnold has fewer onboard missiles, but more guns.
2 x 5 in (127 mm) 54 calibre Mark 45 dual purpose guns; 2 x 20 mm Phalanx CIWS Mark 15 guns; 2 x twin-arm Mark 26 missile launcher + 44 SM-2 Standard II missiles; CG-52 on replace these with 2 x 61-cell Mark 41 VLS each armed with a mix of ASROC, Tomahawk, SM-2 and ESSM.
Davidtourniquet
July 11th, 2006, 03:46 PM
I neg the serpent, well because the rapture's mine :D.
DaCk
July 11th, 2006, 05:17 PM
I like them both but my negative vote is cast towards the rapture. I like the Serpent. Its small and maneuvarable. Just the kind of ship we need that is small enough to be built fast and powerful enough to gang up on larger ships.
Milleniumlance
July 11th, 2006, 06:37 PM
WOW..I got the Fighter and Destroyer catergories..sweet
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 11th, 2006, 07:20 PM
What specs would you give the Arnold to make it a cruiser? For comparison, the Ticonderoga guided missile cruiser, which is America's only active cuiser class. The Arnold has fewer onboard missiles, but more guns.
2 x 5 in (127 mm) 54 calibre Mark 45 dual purpose guns; 2 x 20 mm Phalanx CIWS Mark 15 guns; 2 x twin-arm Mark 26 missile launcher + 44 SM-2 Standard II missiles; CG-52 on replace these with 2 x 61-cell Mark 41 VLS each armed with a mix of ASROC, Tomahawk, SM-2 and ESSM.
Based on the fact that a cruiser is supposed to have exceptional sensors and speed and act as a scout/sentry for a fleet. But meh.
NoDot
July 12th, 2006, 12:29 AM
We need a Frigate-class.
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5497805&postcount=973
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 12th, 2006, 01:58 AM
We need a Frigate-class.
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5497805&postcount=973
Yep, we do. Hey NoDot, do you have an image of the Nimrod? If not you could describe it for me and I'll try to draw it.
freyr's mother
July 12th, 2006, 03:59 AM
We need a Frigate-class.
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5497805&postcount=973
Then PM me two or more frigate designs.
NoDot
July 12th, 2006, 05:10 AM
Yep, we do. Hey NoDot, do you have an image of the Nimrod? If not you could describe it for me and I'll try to draw it.Take a Gate Ship, widen it up, and then scale it up to size. Then, tack two smaller Daedalus engines on the back. That's the approximate shape. Alternatively, there's the "Flying Brick" design. (It was supposed to be easily constructed form the basic shape of the Daedalus, requiring the frames to be changed very little.)
Then PM me two or more frigate designs.No need for PM, since I'm already replying.
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5497879&postcount=974
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=5493867&postcount=958 - Might be iffy...
freyr's mother
July 12th, 2006, 08:41 AM
The Battlecruiser poll will end in 4 hours.
aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2006, 09:05 AM
I'm seeing some massive holes in this system of yours. One BB is 150m, another 800m, DD:s being better armed than the BB:s and so on.
You should really sit down and modify all the ships if you're going to make anything worthwhile of this.
Because otherwise anyone would ask, if ship A has weapon X, then why doesn't ship B, which is 4 times the size have them?
immhotep
July 12th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Once FM get all the ships voted for then well take creative licence an standardise them, or make them fit in to the same sort of context with a progression etc.
We wont rewrite the designs but things such as base weapons or hyperdrive we will obviously make standard e.g. all asgard hyperdrives for example, all Ion engine sublights.
freyr's mother
July 12th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Battlecruiser poll is finished. The results were:
BC-305 Serpant -2
BC-306 Rapture(I) -3
Rapture is gone. Serpant is the winner.
Let's move on to Battleship polling.
The ships in the running are:
Battleship
-The BS-101 (Battleship) by deadman(needs a little work, but it's got potential)
(Battle Ship) BS-101
Dimensions
-length: 250 meters
-width: 150 metes
-decks: 20 (3 meters each)
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Hull
-Double Triquadium Alloy (Trinium + Titanium + inert Naquada)
-1/2' Carbon Fiber Plating (adds level of stealth)
Shields
-Upgraded Asgard Ion Shielding
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 Thrusters)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 Thrusters)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Offensive Weapons
-Twin Frontal 50 meter Coil Guns (10 Naquada enhanced nukes each)
-Reverse Engineered Ion Cannons (originally Anubis')
-20 Nuke Silos (2 rows of 10 lining ship's neck like Daedalus')
-Nuclear Missile Torpedo Bays
-Coil Guns
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship by deadman (needs some work)
BS-365 Telemakhos Class
Dimensions
-length 375 meters
-width 200 meters
-hieght 75 meters
Hull, Decks, and Crew
-double Triquadium Alloy Hull
-35 decks
-20 crew
-capacity 150
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 long engines)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 engines)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Shields
-Newer Asgard Class
Weapons
-2 Frontal 100 Meter Naquada Warhead Coil Guns (10 nukes each)
-4 Frontal 50 Meter Naquada-tipped Shell Coil Guns
-8 Dual High Caliber Coil Guns
-2 dozen anti-aircraft coil guns
-reversed engineered Ha'tak Plasma Cannon
-Nuke silos (located on back of ship
Backround
Project began in 2007 to better deal with ship to ship combat, the Telemakhos is the final product. This is our first ship to use Goa'uld style Plasma cannons which we reversed engineered from Free Jaffa Nation Ha'taks.
This ship is meant to compliment the 304s ship hangar with it's improved weapon systems.
As always with two ships everyone gets one neg vote.
My neg vote goes to :
BS-101
immhotep
July 12th, 2006, 01:48 PM
There both kinda fanwank, niether is big enough...either for class or for the weapons inside
I negative vote both of them.
Battleship design: if anyone has a better design, PM me because i dont think either of them fit in the future Tauri fleet. sorry deadman but its JMO.
freyr's mother
July 12th, 2006, 03:18 PM
There both kinda fanwank, niether is big enough...either for class or for the weapons inside
I negative vote both of them.
Battleship design: if anyone has a better design, PM me because i dont think either of them fit in the future Tauri fleet. sorry deadman but its JMO.
No, there is no double negative votes and they're not both fanwank. What part of it is fanwank in your opinion?
immhotep
July 12th, 2006, 03:29 PM
The size, the ship there is about the size of an alkesh, for the amount of frire power and technolgy the ship should be about 600m by 300m, thats why its fanwank, the weapons are fine just the size is a bit wrong.
ill vote out the BS-101 just because the other one is larger though...
freyr's mother
July 12th, 2006, 03:30 PM
The size, the ship there is about the size of an alkesh, for the amount of frire power and technolgy the ship should be about 600m by 300m, thats why its fanwank, the weapons are fine just the size is a bit wrong.
ill vote out the BS-101 just because the other one is larger though...
Thats what I did, I thought you were talking about the weapons armament and I was like, what?
DaCk
July 12th, 2006, 07:35 PM
There both kinda fanwank, niether is big enough...either for class or for the weapons inside
I negative vote both of them.
Battleship design: if anyone has a better design, PM me because i dont think either of them fit in the future Tauri fleet. sorry deadman but its JMO.
I agree i think both of them are total fanwank. The coilguns are bigger than the ship for cryin out loud!!!! I think we should hold off on the battleship voting until other designs are found or deadman revises his ships.
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 02:56 AM
Im going to create my own design in a few hours, post it in OSDT pk and tell me what you think because ill be making it custom made for this fleet.
Davidtourniquet
July 13th, 2006, 03:15 AM
I agree with DaCk, maybe do another class while we wait for some more battleships.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 04:19 AM
Can someone edit Deadman's ships then, so they're more reasonable?
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 04:34 AM
Here's a late battleship entry by Immhotep
Designation: PBS-501
Name: Leviathon
Place of construction: Lantia, Pegasus galaxy
Type: Battleship
size: L: 850m H180m W250M
Hull: trinium-titanium-steel alloy, reinforced with plasma-relfex' ceramic plates
Power:
1 x mark I ion reactor - an asgard gift for the shield interface technology.
5 x mark II naquadah Generators
72 mark I Naquadah Generators - 1 NR powers 4 rail guns
Engines:
*2 Asgard interGalactic hyperdrive, installed as two ventral fins, capable of atlantis to earth trip in 8 days. Due to improve power sources.
*12 Hebridan ion proppulsion engine
Shielding:
*1 X asgard bubble shield
*1 X asgard internal dampening field - This make explosions and impacts to the ship extreamly lessoned making it much more resiliant to the wraith bombardment tactics.
Weaponry:
*6 wraith ship to ship plasma cannon
*48 secondary missile launch silos, each having Brand new 8 mark X Naquadriah enhanced warheads with Ion propulsion technolgy, extreamyly fast, agile and deadly. ( a variation of the Gatebuster's)
*24 main rail gun, each powered by an individual Mark I maquadah reactor - for main ship to ship
*96 secondary rail guns ( along the neck of of the ship ) - for fighters and bombers
*96 tertiary rail guns on the underside of the ship - for fighter and ground troops
Other craft:
4 - F302 fighter craft
2 Lantian puddle jumpers
1 Goa'uld cargo ship
Secondary systems:
*all standard asgard and goauld technolgy: beams, scanners, computers, translators and the like.
*transporter closets
*internal anti prior sonic devices, implanted in to the ship, always on. This prevents prior from opperating on board our ships.
Sevice Histroy and Background:
The Leviathon class ship is the first earth ship to be designed entire from the work done in the Pegasus galaxy.
The energy cannons from the hive ships were studied from a hive ship that had recently been captured and studied by the atalntis expedition and they had retroengineed the main artillary cannon on the ship, thus giving earth its first energy weapon from the wraith.
These two technolgical improvements would end the current deadalus class production line. A new class of ships was commissioned, to be built in the Pegasus galaxy at the site of a new land base on Lantia, the Leviathon, the mythic gaurdian, was heralded as the protector and savior of the Pegasus galaxy from the wraith, and of earth from the ori. Armed with supperior sheilds to any that have came before it, faster than any of our craft have ever been and in command of the latest and most powerfull weaponry we have this ship has been used to strike back at the wraith for its first time and won, the forth siege of atlantis ended with this craft, the deadalus and the orion holding back a combined fleet of 14 hive ships, these three ships taking down 9 of them before an asgard oniel class came in and destroy the other 5 ships in orbit. commanders are confindent this ship will turn the tide in the war with the wraith and are putting all thier work with the deadalus in to the new Leviathon class ship.
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 04:49 AM
Thw size of the coil guns is meant to refer to their length, not diameter. Coil guns work differently than rail guns and length will effect the speed of the projectiles. So these ships could be built. But coil guns are far more complicated to build than rail guns, and guns of that length would be increadibly hard to maintain and repair.
Alot of people use coil guns instead of rail guns because in real life, rail guns can only fire one, sometimes two shots before the rail's are destroyed by the heat. Real life coil guns can survive multiple shots, but are far harder to design and build. In stargate, using Naquada to make the rail's could solve this problem.
Battleship's are heavily armed, heavily armored warships that were once the backbone of Earth's navies. The advent or airpower in WW2 suplanted the Battleships role, and no nation today has active battleships. America itself has only 4 remaining. 2 are in naval museums, the other 2 are on their way to that fate.
In space, carrier warfare has yet to be proven. And even if it is, the vastness of space and variety of enemy capital ships will lend a role for battlehips in the fleet. Right now, though, I don't think earth has the weapon's technology to build a battleship.
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 05:06 AM
THats why 90% of battleships designed will take weapons from another race, most likely tollan or asgard because we have seen how crap the hatak cannons are against the new generation of captial ships, even our own.
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 05:52 AM
THats why 90% of battleships designed will take weapons from another race, most likely tollan or asgard because we have seen how crap the hatak cannons are against the new generation of captial ships, even our own.
Which is a problem, in my opinion. We have the design specs for the Tollan Ion Cannons, and couldn't figure out how to replicate the technology. We would need help from a more advanced race to build them for our ships, and no other race trusts us as much as the Asgard do. The show has made it clear that they will not give us weapons technology, and I don't think even the Ori threat will change that.
We are on our own in building weapons technology. In time, we will be able to build advanced energy weapons, but not for probly several decades. In the mean time, the stargate program's secrecy will limit the number and type of ships we can build. I think the battleship class should be a design left for the future, when all this is public knowledge and Earth's full production capacity can turn out massive numbers of ships of all kinds.
NoDot
July 13th, 2006, 06:29 AM
Forget Energy Weapons! What we need a better Rail Guns! By better, I'm talking about launching 10kg projectiles between .25c and .5c, minimum.
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 06:38 AM
Which is a problem, in my opinion. We have the design specs for the Tollan Ion Cannons, and couldn't figure out how to replicate the technology. We would need help from a more advanced race to build them for our ships, and no other race trusts us as much as the Asgard do. The show has made it clear that they will not give us weapons technology, and I don't think even the Ori threat will change that.
We are on our own in building weapons technology. In time, we will be able to build advanced energy weapons, but not for probly several decades. In the mean time, the stargate program's secrecy will limit the number and type of ships we can build. I think the battleship class should be a design left for the future, when all this is public knowledge and Earth's full production capacity can turn out massive numbers of ships of all kinds.
Well this is why my design use scrapped wraith weapons, if we use wraith weapons on a ship built in pegasus then secrecy and permission becomes obsolete, the asgard dont need to give us permission to use them, we have them from our own salvaging and using them, powering them and the stuff isnt OTT or fanwank.
Davidtourniquet
July 13th, 2006, 08:24 AM
Forget Energy Weapons! What we need a better Rail Guns! By better, I'm talking about launching 10kg projectiles between .25c and .5c, minimum.
So non-relativistically you want the projectiles to have a Kinetic energy of between 28.1 billion Joules and 112.5 billion joules.
Adding relativity to it, the energy will be between: 2952 trillion joules and 13500 trillion joules of energy. I think thats a bit too much energy for a railgun or even a coilgun to fire out.
DaCk
July 13th, 2006, 08:36 AM
So non-relativistically you want the projectiles to have a Kinetic energy of between 28.1 billion Joules and 112.5 billion joules.
Adding relativity to it, the energy will be between: 2952 trillion joules and 13500 trillion joules of energy. I think thats a bit too much energy for a railgun or even a coilgun to fire out.
Unless a ZPM powers it...
I still think Deadmans Battleships need to be revised. I like yours immhotep. And since this is supposed to be like what 20-25 years from now. I would assume that we would be able to take some wraith cannons and we could probably build the tolan ion cannons with knowledge learned from the Atlantis Database
Davidtourniquet
July 13th, 2006, 09:29 AM
While it's possible a ZPM could power it, the ships in this fleet haven't had ZPM power.
Plus I have to apologise, my calculations for the classical KE are a factor of 1000000 out, used km instead of metres.
aAnubiSs
July 13th, 2006, 09:37 AM
Also don't forget that a railgun is only about 35% efficient, so the other 65% is waste heat ;)
A coilgun can be over 90% efficient
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Here's a late entry from Davidtourniquet.
Andromeda Class BS-310 Battleship
Dimensions:
Length: 820m
Width: 420m
Height: 175m
Volume: 60,270,000 cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 250
Max Personal: 700
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
15 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
9 railguns (6 fore, 3 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
40x Mark VIII Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (20 silos)
32x Mark IX Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
5x Tauri/Asgard Ship-based Ion cannons (3 fore, 2 aft)
Armour:
12m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Engines:
1x Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 83% LS)
7x Fusion thrusters (capable of speeds up to 90km/s)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming Tech
Rings
History of the Andromeda Class
Not much to say about this one. It’s obviously bigger than the Rapture class
Another space-built ship because of its size.
International crew, commanded by Colonel Jack Jefferson of the US airforce
Building time: 18 months, first one to be completed in 2008.
Cost: Set to be about $16 billion or at current rate £8.71 billion.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 09:46 AM
It looks like I'm going to have to restart the battleship poll because there were two more entries so here we go. We now have a sufficient quantity of ships to vote on. Please do not PM me any more ship designs to be entered into this class.
Battleship
-The BS-101 (Battleship) by deadman(needs a little work, but it's got potential)
(Battle Ship) BS-101
Dimensions
-length: 250 meters
-width: 150 metes
-decks: 20 (3 meters each)
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Hull
-Double Triquadium Alloy (Trinium + Titanium + inert Naquada)
-1/2' Carbon Fiber Plating (adds level of stealth)
Shields
-Upgraded Asgard Ion Shielding
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 Thrusters)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 Thrusters)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Offensive Weapons
-Twin Frontal 50 meter Coil Guns (10 Naquada enhanced nukes each)
-Reverse Engineered Ion Cannons (originally Anubis')
-20 Nuke Silos (2 rows of 10 lining ship's neck like Daedalus')
-Nuclear Missile Torpedo Bays
-Coil Guns
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship by deadman (needs some work)
BS-365 Telemakhos Class
Dimensions
-length 375 meters
-width 200 meters
-hieght 75 meters
Hull, Decks, and Crew
-double Triquadium Alloy Hull
-35 decks
-20 crew
-capacity 150
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 long engines)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 engines)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Shields
-Newer Asgard Class
Weapons
-2 Frontal 100 Meter Naquada Warhead Coil Guns (10 nukes each)
-4 Frontal 50 Meter Naquada-tipped Shell Coil Guns
-8 Dual High Caliber Coil Guns
-2 dozen anti-aircraft coil guns
-reversed engineered Ha'tak Plasma Cannon
-Nuke silos (located on back of ship
Backround
Project began in 2007 to better deal with ship to ship combat, the Telemakhos is the final product. This is our first ship to use Goa'uld style Plasma cannons which we reversed engineered from Free Jaffa Nation Ha'taks.
This ship is meant to compliment the 304s ship hangar with it's improved weapon systems.
-PBS-501
Designation: PBS-501
Name: Leviathon
Place of construction: Lantia, Pegasus galaxy
Type: Battleship
size: L: 850m H180m W250M
Hull: trinium-titanium-steel alloy, reinforced with plasma-relfex' ceramic plates
Power:
1 x mark I ion reactor - an asgard gift for the shield interface technology.
5 x mark II naquadah Generators
72 mark I Naquadah Generators - 1 NR powers 4 rail guns
Engines:
*2 Asgard interGalactic hyperdrive, installed as two ventral fins, capable of atlantis to earth trip in 8 days. Due to improve power sources.
*12 Hebridan ion proppulsion engine
Shielding:
*1 X asgard bubble shield
*1 X asgard internal dampening field - This make explosions and impacts to the ship extreamly lessoned making it much more resiliant to the wraith bombardment tactics.
Weaponry:
*6 wraith ship to ship plasma cannon
*48 secondary missile launch silos, each having Brand new 8 mark X Naquadriah enhanced warheads with Ion propulsion technolgy, extreamyly fast, agile and deadly. ( a variation of the Gatebuster's)
*24 main rail gun, each powered by an individual Mark I maquadah reactor - for main ship to ship
*96 secondary rail guns ( along the neck of of the ship ) - for fighters and bombers
*96 tertiary rail guns on the underside of the ship - for fighter and ground troops
Other craft:
4 - F302 fighter craft
2 Lantian puddle jumpers
1 Goa'uld cargo ship
Secondary systems:
*all standard asgard and goauld technolgy: beams, scanners, computers, translators and the like.
*transporter closets
*internal anti prior sonic devices, implanted in to the ship, always on. This prevents prior from opperating on board our ships.
Sevice Histroy and Background:
The Leviathon class ship is the first earth ship to be designed entire from the work done in the Pegasus galaxy.
The energy cannons from the hive ships were studied from a hive ship that had recently been captured and studied by the atalntis expedition and they had retroengineed the main artillary cannon on the ship, thus giving earth its first energy weapon from the wraith.
These two technolgical improvements would end the current deadalus class production line. A new class of ships was commissioned, to be built in the Pegasus galaxy at the site of a new land base on Lantia, the Leviathon, the mythic gaurdian, was heralded as the protector and savior of the Pegasus galaxy from the wraith, and of earth from the ori. Armed with supperior sheilds to any that have came before it, faster than any of our craft have ever been and in command of the latest and most powerfull weaponry we have this ship has been used to strike back at the wraith for its first time and won, the forth siege of atlantis ended with this craft, the deadalus and the orion holding back a combined fleet of 14 hive ships, these three ships taking down 9 of them before an asgard oniel class came in and destroy the other 5 ships in orbit. commanders are confindent this ship will turn the tide in the war with the wraith and are putting all thier work with the deadalus in to the new Leviathon class ship.
-BS-310 Battleship by Davidtourniquet
Andromeda Class BS-310 Battleship
Dimensions:
Length: 820m
Width: 420m
Height: 175m
Volume: 60,270,000 cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 250
Max Personal: 700
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
15 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
9 railguns (6 fore, 3 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
40x Mark VIII Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (20 silos)
32x Mark IX Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
5x Tauri/Asgard Ship-based Ion cannons (3 fore, 2 aft)
Armour:
12m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Engines:
1x Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 83% LS)
7x Fusion thrusters (capable of speeds up to 90km/s)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming Tech
Rings
History of the Andromeda Class
Not much to say about this one. It’s obviously bigger than the Rapture class
Another space-built ship because of its size.
International crew, commanded by Colonel Jack Jefferson of the US airforce
Building time: 18 months, first one to be completed in 2008.
Cost: Set to be about $16 billion or at current rate £8.71 billion.
Since we now have 4 ships to choose from, everyone will be allowed up to three neg votes.
My neg votes go to:
BS-301 -2
BS-365 Telemakhos -1
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 09:53 AM
IM only going to neg the BS-101 and BS- 365, both mine and DT's are good deisgns that i wouldnt mind in the fleet, if i HAVE to neg anothr one it would be DT's just because its rival is mine.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 09:54 AM
IM only going to neg the BS-101 and BS- 365, both mine and DT's are good deisgns that i wouldnt mind in the fleet, if i HAVE to neg anothr one it would be DT's just because its rival is mine.
You get three neg votes.
tobi
July 13th, 2006, 10:12 AM
My neg votes go to
BS-301 -2
BS-365 Telemakhos -1
The other two are both good. I would prefer immothep's. That's what i call a battleship.
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 10:51 AM
neg the 301 and 365.
I like the other two equally, though I think both could use some tweaking.
Well this is why my design use scrapped wraith weapons, if we use wraith weapons on a ship built in pegasus then secrecy and permission becomes obsolete, the asgard dont need to give us permission to use them, we have them from our own salvaging and using them, powering them and the stuff isnt OTT or fanwank.
I don't consider it fanwank, but using captured weapons systems would only yeild a couple of ship's worth of weapons, not an entire production run. Plus, installing technology we don't understand enough to build ourselves can lead to other problems, especially in repairing damaged components.
I'm not trying to nitpick, I just prefer sticking with established canon as much as possible, which is why my ship designs don't have any Asgard sensors like most people's designs do, because the Asgard haven't given us sensor tech in the shows.
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Yes they have...in avalon they tried to use asgard sensor to penetrate galstonberry toll after them
"recently being installed on the promethius along with beaming technology"
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 11:04 AM
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that. Bloody plot holes always getting in the way.
In Off the Grid, they mentioned that Oddysey didn't have asgard sensors. Wish they'd get their story strait.
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 11:20 AM
LOL
the oddesey was not complete then, thats why they had to use beaming tags for the gates.
Btw the image for my ship, and actually my choice of image for any battle ship we have is this one:
http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theathena6rf.jpg
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 11:51 AM
They use beaming tags throught the rest of the season.
That's a sweat design, but not very realistic, imo.
benjaminism
July 13th, 2006, 12:18 PM
LOL
the oddesey was not complete then, thats why they had to use beaming tags for the gates.
Btw the image for my ship, and actually my choice of image for any battle ship we have is this one:
http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theathena6rf.jpg
Pretty sweet ship
what programme you use for that???
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 12:52 PM
It is not mine, definitly not...its a pretty great ship but its from the OSDT and a kind of genericly free battleship model from...eek i should know this!!...someone!
mburrows..maybe!
Davidtourniquet
July 13th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Back on voting, neg for
BS101, BS365 and the PBS501
Of course because I don't want to neg vote my own.
But Immotep's one is a good'un, shame only one can get through.
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 01:15 PM
Well the battleship is generally the flagship too, because its the spearhead of war; so whoever does get this is going to have a great honour too. (im not even trying to hide how much id like it to be mine..lol)
Buba uognarf
July 13th, 2006, 01:22 PM
are new people allowed to jump in and vote???
Davidtourniquet
July 13th, 2006, 01:23 PM
This is the big one in a way. Flagship? damn should of called it enterprise :D
Basically with the 2 designs its either the choice of more railguns or more missiles thats how I see it.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 03:18 PM
are new people allowed to jump in and vote???
Of course. In fact it's encouraged.
m-16 a2
July 13th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Can someone tell me what this is about? If I can help, I wish to contribute.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 03:39 PM
Can someone tell me what this is about? If I can help, I wish to contribute.
We have posted non-fanwankish ship designs into their respective categories. We are currently voting on which ships should win which category. Then, for those specs that don't have a physical design yet, we get either, O'Neil or Cooky to make a design that will blow everyone's mind away. Then those designs, will be used in a mock up space battle.
We are currently voting on a Battleship Design. The choices are:
Battleships
-The BS-101 (Battleship) by deadman(needs a little work, but it's got potential)
(Battle Ship) BS-101
Dimensions
-length: 250 meters
-width: 150 metes
-decks: 20 (3 meters each)
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Hull
-Double Triquadium Alloy (Trinium + Titanium + inert Naquada)
-1/2' Carbon Fiber Plating (adds level of stealth)
Shields
-Upgraded Asgard Ion Shielding
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 Thrusters)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 Thrusters)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Offensive Weapons
-Twin Frontal 50 meter Coil Guns (10 Naquada enhanced nukes each)
-Reverse Engineered Ion Cannons (originally Anubis')
-20 Nuke Silos (2 rows of 10 lining ship's neck like Daedalus')
-Nuclear Missile Torpedo Bays
-Coil Guns
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship by deadman (needs some work)
BS-365 Telemakhos Class
Dimensions
-length 375 meters
-width 200 meters
-hieght 75 meters
Hull, Decks, and Crew
-double Triquadium Alloy Hull
-35 decks
-20 crew
-capacity 150
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 long engines)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 engines)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Shields
-Newer Asgard Class
Weapons
-2 Frontal 100 Meter Naquada Warhead Coil Guns (10 nukes each)
-4 Frontal 50 Meter Naquada-tipped Shell Coil Guns
-8 Dual High Caliber Coil Guns
-2 dozen anti-aircraft coil guns
-reversed engineered Ha'tak Plasma Cannon
-Nuke silos (located on back of ship
Backround
Project began in 2007 to better deal with ship to ship combat, the Telemakhos is the final product. This is our first ship to use Goa'uld style Plasma cannons which we reversed engineered from Free Jaffa Nation Ha'taks.
This ship is meant to compliment the 304s ship hangar with it's improved weapon systems.
-PBS-501
Designation: PBS-501
Name: Leviathon
Place of construction: Lantia, Pegasus galaxy
Type: Battleship
size: L: 850m H180m W250M
Hull: trinium-titanium-steel alloy, reinforced with plasma-relfex' ceramic plates
Power:
1 x mark I ion reactor - an asgard gift for the shield interface technology.
5 x mark II naquadah Generators
72 mark I Naquadah Generators - 1 NR powers 4 rail guns
Engines:
*2 Asgard interGalactic hyperdrive, installed as two ventral fins, capable of atlantis to earth trip in 8 days. Due to improve power sources.
*12 Hebridan ion proppulsion engine
Shielding:
*1 X asgard bubble shield
*1 X asgard internal dampening field - This make explosions and impacts to the ship extreamly lessoned making it much more resiliant to the wraith bombardment tactics.
Weaponry:
*6 wraith ship to ship plasma cannon
*48 secondary missile launch silos, each having Brand new 8 mark X Naquadriah enhanced warheads with Ion propulsion technolgy, extreamyly fast, agile and deadly. ( a variation of the Gatebuster's)
*24 main rail gun, each powered by an individual Mark I maquadah reactor - for main ship to ship
*96 secondary rail guns ( along the neck of of the ship ) - for fighters and bombers
*96 tertiary rail guns on the underside of the ship - for fighter and ground troops
Other craft:
4 - F302 fighter craft
2 Lantian puddle jumpers
1 Goa'uld cargo ship
Secondary systems:
*all standard asgard and goauld technolgy: beams, scanners, computers, translators and the like.
*transporter closets
*internal anti prior sonic devices, implanted in to the ship, always on. This prevents prior from opperating on board our ships.
Sevice Histroy and Background:
The Leviathon class ship is the first earth ship to be designed entire from the work done in the Pegasus galaxy.
The energy cannons from the hive ships were studied from a hive ship that had recently been captured and studied by the atalntis expedition and they had retroengineed the main artillary cannon on the ship, thus giving earth its first energy weapon from the wraith.
These two technolgical improvements would end the current deadalus class production line. A new class of ships was commissioned, to be built in the Pegasus galaxy at the site of a new land base on Lantia, the Leviathon, the mythic gaurdian, was heralded as the protector and savior of the Pegasus galaxy from the wraith, and of earth from the ori. Armed with supperior sheilds to any that have came before it, faster than any of our craft have ever been and in command of the latest and most powerfull weaponry we have this ship has been used to strike back at the wraith for its first time and won, the forth siege of atlantis ended with this craft, the deadalus and the orion holding back a combined fleet of 14 hive ships, these three ships taking down 9 of them before an asgard oniel class came in and destroy the other 5 ships in orbit. commanders are confindent this ship will turn the tide in the war with the wraith and are putting all thier work with the deadalus in to the new Leviathon class ship.
-BS-310 Battleship by Davidtourniquet
Andromeda Class BS-310 Battleship
Dimensions:
Length: 820m
Width: 420m
Height: 175m
Volume: 60,270,000 cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 250
Max Personal: 700
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
15 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
9 railguns (6 fore, 3 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
40x Mark VIII Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (20 silos)
32x Mark IX Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
5x Tauri/Asgard Ship-based Ion cannons (3 fore, 2 aft)
Armour:
12m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Engines:
1x Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 83% LS)
7x Fusion thrusters (capable of speeds up to 90km/s)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming Tech
Rings
History of the Andromeda Class
Not much to say about this one. It’s obviously bigger than the Rapture class
Another space-built ship because of its size.
International crew, commanded by Colonel Jack Jefferson of the US airforce
Building time: 18 months, first one to be completed in 2008.
Cost: Set to be about $16 billion or at current rate £8.71 billion.
Everyone gets 3 NEGATIVE votes for the first round to distribute amongst the four ships in this category as they please.
m-16 a2
July 13th, 2006, 03:51 PM
The BS-101
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship
-PBS-501
I choose these mainly because I find the last one more realistic and it doesn't use Coil Guns which are(from my knowledge) significantly less powerful than railguns.
I also have a question, for the next round of ships, who is able to post their own designs?
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 04:08 PM
You can post any design you want over in the Origional Ship Design Thread. Those that aren't completelly nuts and are a ship class we haven't voted on yet will be included in the apropriate round.
m-16 a2
July 13th, 2006, 04:14 PM
I have what I consider to be a...well... a consirable frigate. Has that catagory all ready been voted on? If not, someone tell me when to post it. It's designed for Earth.
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Go here (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=25173&page=50) and post it whenever you're ready. It'll get added to the voting when we do the frigates.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 06:15 PM
I have what I consider to be a...well... a consirable frigate. Has that catagory all ready been voted on? If not, someone tell me when to post it. It's designed for Earth.
We skipped over that design.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 06:17 PM
I also have a question, for the next round of ships, who is able to post their own designs?
Anyone is. PM me the specs for a review and I will decide whether it goes on the poll. (Try to make it reasonable)
We need Battlecarriers and Carriers.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 13th, 2006, 06:37 PM
Is it too late to add in my Challenger-class battleship? Check out the original starship thread, you can't miss it. If it is, I'd like to submit it to the Battecruiser voting block, if you please.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Is it too late to add in my Challenger-class battleship? Check out the original starship thread, you can't miss it. If it is, I'd like to submit it to the Battecruiser voting block, if you please.
*tired sigh*
The battlecruiser poll is closed.
Aroura-Gate
July 13th, 2006, 06:39 PM
And My Grace DSSC
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 06:43 PM
And My Grace DSSC
PM me the design and specs please.
cooky
July 13th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Is it too late to add in my Challenger-class battleship? Check out the original starship thread, you can't miss it. If it is, I'd like to submit it to the Battecruiser voting block, if you please.
As a battleship or battlecruiser? They're two different classes.
*tired sigh*
Heh, people are going to keep designing even for the classes we've already done. I've already got an idea brewing in my head for a new fighter.
freyr's mother
July 13th, 2006, 06:46 PM
Heh, people are going to keep designing even for the classes we've already done. I've already got an idea brewing in my head for a new fighter.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :(
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 13th, 2006, 07:10 PM
The Challenger is a battleship, okay? There. Please add it in.
DaCk
July 13th, 2006, 07:17 PM
It looks like I'm going to have to restart the battleship poll because there were two more entries so here we go. We now have a sufficient quantity of ships to vote on. Please do not PM me any more ship designs to be entered into this class.
Battleship
-The BS-101 (Battleship) by deadman(needs a little work, but it's got potential)
(Battle Ship) BS-101
Dimensions
-length: 250 meters
-width: 150 metes
-decks: 20 (3 meters each)
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Hull
-Double Triquadium Alloy (Trinium + Titanium + inert Naquada)
-1/2' Carbon Fiber Plating (adds level of stealth)
Shields
-Upgraded Asgard Ion Shielding
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 Thrusters)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 Thrusters)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Offensive Weapons
-Twin Frontal 50 meter Coil Guns (10 Naquada enhanced nukes each)
-Reverse Engineered Ion Cannons (originally Anubis')
-20 Nuke Silos (2 rows of 10 lining ship's neck like Daedalus')
-Nuclear Missile Torpedo Bays
-Coil Guns
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship by deadman (needs some work)
BS-365 Telemakhos Class
Dimensions
-length 375 meters
-width 200 meters
-hieght 75 meters
Hull, Decks, and Crew
-double Triquadium Alloy Hull
-35 decks
-20 crew
-capacity 150
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 long engines)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 engines)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Shields
-Newer Asgard Class
Weapons
-2 Frontal 100 Meter Naquada Warhead Coil Guns (10 nukes each)
-4 Frontal 50 Meter Naquada-tipped Shell Coil Guns
-8 Dual High Caliber Coil Guns
-2 dozen anti-aircraft coil guns
-reversed engineered Ha'tak Plasma Cannon
-Nuke silos (located on back of ship
Backround
Project began in 2007 to better deal with ship to ship combat, the Telemakhos is the final product. This is our first ship to use Goa'uld style Plasma cannons which we reversed engineered from Free Jaffa Nation Ha'taks.
This ship is meant to compliment the 304s ship hangar with it's improved weapon systems.
-PBS-501
Designation: PBS-501
Name: Leviathon
Place of construction: Lantia, Pegasus galaxy
Type: Battleship
size: L: 850m H180m W250M
Hull: trinium-titanium-steel alloy, reinforced with plasma-relfex' ceramic plates
Power:
1 x mark I ion reactor - an asgard gift for the shield interface technology.
5 x mark II naquadah Generators
72 mark I Naquadah Generators - 1 NR powers 4 rail guns
Engines:
*2 Asgard interGalactic hyperdrive, installed as two ventral fins, capable of atlantis to earth trip in 8 days. Due to improve power sources.
*12 Hebridan ion proppulsion engine
Shielding:
*1 X asgard bubble shield
*1 X asgard internal dampening field - This make explosions and impacts to the ship extreamly lessoned making it much more resiliant to the wraith bombardment tactics.
Weaponry:
*6 wraith ship to ship plasma cannon
*48 secondary missile launch silos, each having Brand new 8 mark X Naquadriah enhanced warheads with Ion propulsion technolgy, extreamyly fast, agile and deadly. ( a variation of the Gatebuster's)
*24 main rail gun, each powered by an individual Mark I maquadah reactor - for main ship to ship
*96 secondary rail guns ( along the neck of of the ship ) - for fighters and bombers
*96 tertiary rail guns on the underside of the ship - for fighter and ground troops
Other craft:
4 - F302 fighter craft
2 Lantian puddle jumpers
1 Goa'uld cargo ship
Secondary systems:
*all standard asgard and goauld technolgy: beams, scanners, computers, translators and the like.
*transporter closets
*internal anti prior sonic devices, implanted in to the ship, always on. This prevents prior from opperating on board our ships.
Sevice Histroy and Background:
The Leviathon class ship is the first earth ship to be designed entire from the work done in the Pegasus galaxy.
The energy cannons from the hive ships were studied from a hive ship that had recently been captured and studied by the atalntis expedition and they had retroengineed the main artillary cannon on the ship, thus giving earth its first energy weapon from the wraith.
These two technolgical improvements would end the current deadalus class production line. A new class of ships was commissioned, to be built in the Pegasus galaxy at the site of a new land base on Lantia, the Leviathon, the mythic gaurdian, was heralded as the protector and savior of the Pegasus galaxy from the wraith, and of earth from the ori. Armed with supperior sheilds to any that have came before it, faster than any of our craft have ever been and in command of the latest and most powerfull weaponry we have this ship has been used to strike back at the wraith for its first time and won, the forth siege of atlantis ended with this craft, the deadalus and the orion holding back a combined fleet of 14 hive ships, these three ships taking down 9 of them before an asgard oniel class came in and destroy the other 5 ships in orbit. commanders are confindent this ship will turn the tide in the war with the wraith and are putting all thier work with the deadalus in to the new Leviathon class ship.
-BS-310 Battleship by Davidtourniquet
Andromeda Class BS-310 Battleship
Dimensions:
Length: 820m
Width: 420m
Height: 175m
Volume: 60,270,000 cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 250
Max Personal: 700
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
15 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
9 railguns (6 fore, 3 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
40x Mark VIII Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (20 silos)
32x Mark IX Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
5x Tauri/Asgard Ship-based Ion cannons (3 fore, 2 aft)
Armour:
12m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Engines:
1x Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 83% LS)
7x Fusion thrusters (capable of speeds up to 90km/s)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming Tech
Rings
History of the Andromeda Class
Not much to say about this one. It’s obviously bigger than the Rapture class
Another space-built ship because of its size.
International crew, commanded by Colonel Jack Jefferson of the US airforce
Building time: 18 months, first one to be completed in 2008.
Cost: Set to be about $16 billion or at current rate £8.71 billion.
Since we now have 4 ships to choose from, everyone will be allowed up to three neg votes.
My neg votes go to:
BS-301 -2
BS-365 Telemakhos -1
Which one FM? There isnt a BS-301. Do you mean the 101 or 310 or 501??
I neg the
1----BS-101
2----BS-365
immhotep
July 13th, 2006, 10:35 PM
As a battleship or battlecruiser? They're two different classes.
Heh, people are going to keep designing even for the classes we've already done. I've already got an idea brewing in my head for a new fighter.
The point isnt to stop people designing ships its to consolidate all the best ships SO FAR in to one coherent thing, that other ships that are yet to be designed can then look at to take inspiration from. 50+pages of designs narrowed to 20 or so ships is quite usefull IMO:)
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 04:17 AM
Which one FM? There isnt a BS-301. Do you mean the 101 or 310 or 501??
I neg the
1----BS-101
2----BS-365
Sorry, I meant the 101.
With all thanks due to AJT, we must restart the polling! :mad:
Battleship
-The BS-101 (Battleship) by deadman(needs a little work, but it's got potential)
(Battle Ship) BS-101
Dimensions
-length: 250 meters
-width: 150 metes
-decks: 20 (3 meters each)
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Hull
-Double Triquadium Alloy (Trinium + Titanium + inert Naquada)
-1/2' Carbon Fiber Plating (adds level of stealth)
Shields
-Upgraded Asgard Ion Shielding
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 Thrusters)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 Thrusters)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Offensive Weapons
-Twin Frontal 50 meter Coil Guns (10 Naquada enhanced nukes each)
-Reverse Engineered Ion Cannons (originally Anubis')
-20 Nuke Silos (2 rows of 10 lining ship's neck like Daedalus')
-Nuclear Missile Torpedo Bays
-Coil Guns
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship by deadman (needs some work)
BS-365 Telemakhos Class
Dimensions
-length 375 meters
-width 200 meters
-hieght 75 meters
Hull, Decks, and Crew
-double Triquadium Alloy Hull
-35 decks
-20 crew
-capacity 150
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 long engines)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 engines)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Shields
-Newer Asgard Class
Weapons
-2 Frontal 100 Meter Naquada Warhead Coil Guns (10 nukes each)
-4 Frontal 50 Meter Naquada-tipped Shell Coil Guns
-8 Dual High Caliber Coil Guns
-2 dozen anti-aircraft coil guns
-reversed engineered Ha'tak Plasma Cannon
-Nuke silos (located on back of ship
Backround
Project began in 2007 to better deal with ship to ship combat, the Telemakhos is the final product. This is our first ship to use Goa'uld style Plasma cannons which we reversed engineered from Free Jaffa Nation Ha'taks.
This ship is meant to compliment the 304s ship hangar with it's improved weapon systems.
-PBS-501
Designation: PBS-501
Name: Leviathon
Place of construction: Lantia, Pegasus galaxy
Type: Battleship
size: L: 850m H180m W250M
Hull: trinium-titanium-steel alloy, reinforced with plasma-relfex' ceramic plates
Power:
1 x mark I ion reactor - an asgard gift for the shield interface technology.
5 x mark II naquadah Generators
72 mark I Naquadah Generators - 1 NR powers 4 rail guns
Engines:
*2 Asgard interGalactic hyperdrive, installed as two ventral fins, capable of atlantis to earth trip in 8 days. Due to improve power sources.
*12 Hebridan ion proppulsion engine
Shielding:
*1 X asgard bubble shield
*1 X asgard internal dampening field - This make explosions and impacts to the ship extreamly lessoned making it much more resiliant to the wraith bombardment tactics.
Weaponry:
*6 wraith ship to ship plasma cannon
*48 secondary missile launch silos, each having Brand new 8 mark X Naquadriah enhanced warheads with Ion propulsion technolgy, extreamyly fast, agile and deadly. ( a variation of the Gatebuster's)
*24 main rail gun, each powered by an individual Mark I maquadah reactor - for main ship to ship
*96 secondary rail guns ( along the neck of of the ship ) - for fighters and bombers
*96 tertiary rail guns on the underside of the ship - for fighter and ground troops
Other craft:
4 - F302 fighter craft
2 Lantian puddle jumpers
1 Goa'uld cargo ship
Secondary systems:
*all standard asgard and goauld technolgy: beams, scanners, computers, translators and the like.
*transporter closets
*internal anti prior sonic devices, implanted in to the ship, always on. This prevents prior from opperating on board our ships.
Sevice Histroy and Background:
The Leviathon class ship is the first earth ship to be designed entire from the work done in the Pegasus galaxy.
The energy cannons from the hive ships were studied from a hive ship that had recently been captured and studied by the atalntis expedition and they had retroengineed the main artillary cannon on the ship, thus giving earth its first energy weapon from the wraith.
These two technolgical improvements would end the current deadalus class production line. A new class of ships was commissioned, to be built in the Pegasus galaxy at the site of a new land base on Lantia, the Leviathon, the mythic gaurdian, was heralded as the protector and savior of the Pegasus galaxy from the wraith, and of earth from the ori. Armed with supperior sheilds to any that have came before it, faster than any of our craft have ever been and in command of the latest and most powerfull weaponry we have this ship has been used to strike back at the wraith for its first time and won, the forth siege of atlantis ended with this craft, the deadalus and the orion holding back a combined fleet of 14 hive ships, these three ships taking down 9 of them before an asgard oniel class came in and destroy the other 5 ships in orbit. commanders are confindent this ship will turn the tide in the war with the wraith and are putting all thier work with the deadalus in to the new Leviathon class ship.
-BS-310 Battleship by Davidtourniquet
Andromeda Class BS-310 Battleship
Dimensions:
Length: 820m
Width: 420m
Height: 175m
Volume: 60,270,000 cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 250
Max Personal: 700
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
15 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
9 railguns (6 fore, 3 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
40x Mark VIII Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (20 silos)
32x Mark IX Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
5x Tauri/Asgard Ship-based Ion cannons (3 fore, 2 aft)
Armour:
12m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Engines:
1x Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 83% LS)
7x Fusion thrusters (capable of speeds up to 90km/s)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming Tech
Rings
History of the Andromeda Class
Not much to say about this one. It’s obviously bigger than the Rapture class
Another space-built ship because of its size.
International crew, commanded by Colonel Jack Jefferson of the US airforce
Building time: 18 months, first one to be completed in 2008.
Cost: Set to be about $16 billion or at current rate £8.71 billion.
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 04:38 AM
~Challenger-class Battleship~
~Challenger-class Battleship~
~Designation: SBB-401
~Users: United States Navy, United States Air Force, Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, Russian Space Service, German Space Defense Force.
~Builder: Northrop Grumman/Newport News/Soyuz Fleet Systems/Thames Ship Builders
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
~Naval Classification: Battleship
~Dimensions:
-Length: 490 meters (1,078 feet)
-Width: 117 meters (257.4 feet)
-Height: 82 meters (180.4 feet)
-Decks: 16
~Displacement: 97,980 tons (Earth normal gravity)
~Capacity:
-Officers: 28
-Enlisted: 342
-Troops: 900
-Maximum: 2,200
~Powerplant: One Mk. IV Naquada generator
~Propulsion:
-Two Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-3 sublight ion drives
-Four Asgard/Area 51 hyperspace window generators
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator network
~Performance:
-Maximum Acceleration: 82.3 PSL
-Maximum Hyperspace Velocity: 14,998 lightyears/hour
-Maximum Hyperspace Endurance: 2.3 weeks/top speed
-Hyperspace Generator Recharge Rate: 2.5 minutes between jumps
~Ship Systems:
-Computer: Asgard Crystalline-based quantum processors; AEGIS Networking System
-Life Support: Lockheed Martin FPA-98 oxygen/CO2 filtration system
-Sensors: AN/SPY-3 Phased RADAR array; Asgard Sensor Arrays
-Navigation: Stargate Network Common Coordinate Alignment Datalink
-Communications: Northrop Grumman SST-32 Subspace Transceiver Array
~Armament:
-Eight 16" (352mm) coil guns x 500 rounds each
-Two Mk. 43 vertical Missle Launch Systems x 60 cells each (120 total)
-Sixteen 1.2" (20mm) retractable rail gun turrets x 3,000 rounds each
-Six modular ventral bays for a variety of weapons/purposes
~Defenses:
-Asgard Shields
-Inert naquada armor (engine room, bridge, weapons magazines, reactor compartment)
-Reactive armor plating
~Support Craft:
-Up to 2 Puddlejumpers/Tel'tacs in modular vental bays, or 4 F-302s, or various other smallcraft depending on mission requirements.
Technical and Historical Notes:
After Anubis's assault on Earth in the summer of 2004, the United States approached the United Kingdom, Russia, Germany, France, Canada, Australia, Japan, and China for assistance in a new joint-defensive program. Certain groups in Congress (among them a group that had been lobbying for the restoration of the American Iowa-class battleships currently in mothballs) had proposed a new starship construction program to run alongside the 303, and later 304 programs. This new starship would be jointly built, funded, and crewed by all the nations involved, and was later seen as a first step towards forming the International Committee to oversee the Stargate program.
Unfortunately, of the eight nations, only Russia, the United Kingom, and Germany agreed to participate. The other nations decided to input more funding into the Antarctica Outpost and Atlantis Expedition, and were still skeptical about the need to invest in starships with the Ancient superweapon at the South Pole. Thus, in the winter of 2004, a crash-course program to build a heavy combat starship commenced.
Utilizing technologies developed for other programs, such as the Abydos-class destroyer, the first Challenger-class battleship began construction at the Newport News yards. With funding cuts looming, the battleship program narrowly avoided being cancelled through intense private funding. Even so, the Challenger-class starship was scaled down significantly from the 2,000 meter plus dreadnaught originally designed. Her hull was also based on existing naval vessels to save money. An inadvertant advantage of this method was making the battleship able to float in water.
A covering of trinium-based armor was scaled down to reactive armor instead, and inert naquada armor reinforcing critical areas of the battleship's hull. Utilizing multi-purpose modular bays gave the battleship significant flexibility, which helped keep it from being cancelled. Trimming the hull to make it's sihoulette smaller also made it less massive, allowing it to keep up with the smaller Prometheus-class starships in simulations despite only having slightly larger engines. The ship's main guns, 16 inch coilguns, were soundly tested and demonstrated the ability to engage and destroy Gou'ald starships on their own terms. Help from the Asgard kept the vessel under budget in most areas.
Unfortunately, shakedown trials of the Challenger in the spring of 2005 demonstrated that while the vessel had been built soundly in the amazingly short amount of time it had, the Mk. II naquada reactors powering it were simply too weak to allow the ship to live up to it's full potential. With the new Daedalus-class starships in full production, the Challenger was about to be deemed a failure and scrapped.
However, the breakthrough of a joint Russian-German-US naquada generator program bore fruit, in the form of the Mk. IV naquada reactor. The Mk. III, under development by the ABydos-class destroyer program, was not yet finished, so the Mk. IV system was quickly deployed aboard the ailing Challenger. It's inclusion transformed the battleship from a lumbering hulk to a fast, powerful warship. Unfortunately, the Challenger was still months away from being complete and combat-ready, and was thus regulated to the orbit of Mars, the Abydos assisting in it's shakedown even while the destroyer underwent her own.
The Challenger's main weapons, her eight 16" coilguns, harken back to the era of big-gun battleships on Earth. The design of her turrets are actually based upon those developed for the Iowa-class battleships currently mothballed by the US Navy. However, unlike those ancient weapons, these guns can hurl 300 kilogram (660 pound) shells at ranges of over 100,000 kilometers (60,213 miles). Fired at speeds of 2,000,000 meters/sec (0.02 PSL), this works out to over 6.0 petawatts, or nearly 2 megatons of force per shot. The coilguns also have a very fast rate of fire, nearly 18 rounds a minute (or 1 round/3 seconds), giving the Challenger a minimum destructive capability of 16 megatons every 3 seconds. Naquada-enhanced shells increase this firepower to over 1,000 megatons/3 seconds, allowing the Challenger to pound Gou'ald shields apart. Her Asgard-designed shields let her slug it out with enemy vessels and destroy them before sustaining serious damage. Her advanced engines and inertial drive make her far faster and maneuverable than enemy starships, giving her a crucial edge in combat.
With the threat of the Ori, the Challenger was quickly finished and deployed to the second Ori supergate. Though untested, the battleship survived the engagement and was able to inflict moderate damage upon one Ori battleship before being forced to disengage. With this accomplishment, the Challenger-class starship program is swiftly receiving more funding and support. Two sister ships, Gagarin and Victorious, are under construction in Russia and the United Kingdom respectively. They will more than likely be rushed to completion and deployed with the strides the Ori are already making in our galaxy.
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Since we now have 5 ships to choose from, everyone will be allowed up to three neg votes. I MEAN IT THIS TIME, NO MORE BATTLESHIP DESIGNS!
My neg votes go to:
BS-101 -2
BS-365 Telemakhos -1
Davidtourniquet
July 14th, 2006, 04:50 AM
BS101, BS365 and the challenger are my neg votes.
benjaminism
July 14th, 2006, 04:59 AM
My neg votes are:
BS-101 -1
BS-365 Telemakhos -2
Buba uognarf
July 14th, 2006, 07:22 AM
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My neg votes are:
BS-101 -2
BS-365 Telemakhos -1
has anyone thought of the advances the wraith will have made it in that time? i know right now we're dealing with tauri ships but it might be intresting once we're finished to try and do something similar to the wraith(obviously to a lesser extent) because after 20 yeards of fighting us i think they would learnt a few things...
Sam fisher
July 14th, 2006, 07:39 AM
I vote againist the BS-101, the BS-365 and the BS-310.
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 08:34 AM
The first round of the battleship poll will end in 5 hours.
If you have any battlecarrier or Carrier designs, please PM me them now.
Buba uognarf
July 14th, 2006, 08:39 AM
stupid question but how do i pm you???...and what ship classes have you u yet to vote on?
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 08:42 AM
stupid question but how do i pm you???...and what ship classes have you u yet to vote on?
Click on my username on one of my posts and then you get a drop down menu. Pick the one that says send a private message to Freyr's mother.
The only ship classes left are those of Battlecarrier, and Carrier.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 14th, 2006, 08:46 AM
I vote againist the BS-101, the BS-365 and the BS-310.
Buba uognarf
July 14th, 2006, 08:51 AM
k thanks
tobi
July 14th, 2006, 09:08 AM
my neg votes go to the BS101, BS365 and the challenger
Sam fisher
July 14th, 2006, 09:10 AM
I vote againist the BS-101, the BS-365 and the BS-310.
Nik'ver
July 14th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Neg votes BS 101&365
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 09:23 AM
Neg votes BS 101&365
You have a third, would you like to use it?
Buba uognarf
July 14th, 2006, 09:29 AM
what carriers and battle carriers are there??? i can't find them:(
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 09:31 AM
what carriers and battle carriers are there??? i can't find them:(
Carrier
DSC 308 longsword By JRPR
DSC 308 longsword
Type: Deep space carrier
Technology Base: Earth/Asgard/Goauld
Hull: Titanium/trinium Alloy with Carbon composites
Dimensions:
-Length: 470m
-Width: 200m
-Height: 80m
Crew: 200
Powerplant: 4 Mk. IV Naquadah Generator
Engines:
advanced hyperspace window generator
Four advanced ion-based sublight drives
Anti-gravity wave generators
Support craft:
-60 F-302A's
-40 F-307s (see page 14 of this tread for my f-307 design and specs)
Weapons:
-10 double barreled heavy coil guns 1000 rounds each
-44 remote controled light coil guns 1000 rounds each
-40 naquada enhanced nuclear warheads
Defenses:
-Inert Naquadah Plating in certain areas
-Advanced Asgard designed shields
Other tech:
-AFC (adaptable flight computer)
-Asgard sensor tech
-Asgard Beeming tech
-Gou'ald rings
The first of this line of ships rolled off the production line in 2010 when it was decided that there was a need for a ship with a greater fighter capacity that the 304. As the F-307s have verticle takeoff and landing there is a second hanger doar located on top of the hanger bay for the 307s. All of the hanger openings have bulkhead doars but also when in a battle situation a teporary shield is activated over the opening alowing craft to take off whilst people opperate insid the hanger. As there will be multiple craft being lanched and landing on the ship there is a comand point on top of each hanger to monitor the craft alot like an air trafic control center. The longsword was not designed to go in to battle on its own and would only go in to a danger zone acompanied by a battle ship meaning that it has limited offensive capabilities and the main coil guns are only to desencorage a ship from attacking, however the ship does have good defensive capabilities with many point defence coil guns. it was decided that more power should be put in to defence as there is no point in having a fighter carrier when there is no carrier left fo the fighters to go back to.
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Battlecarrier
-DSBC-401 By Freyr’s Mother
Price: $ 6 Billion
Hull: Naquadah, Carbon, Trinium, Neutronium alloy
Size: 2x Size of DSC-304
Sub-light Propulsion: 10 Sub-light engines (Standard DSC sub-light system)
Power: Standard Asgard Power source, 48 Mark III Naquadah Generators provide secondary power
Hyperdrive: Asgard Hyperdrive
Shields: Top of the line Asgard shields (The one's they have on the O'Neill class ships)
Fighter compliment: 64 F-302's, 2 Puddlejumpers (fully loaded with drones)
The fighter bays will be two times as wide and two times as long. There are 16 F-302's on the top deck and 16 F-302's on the lower deck. Both hangars are utilized. The fighter elevator can lift up to four F-302's from the lower deck to the top deck at once. Since the DSBC-401 is 2x as wide, 2 F-302's will be able to take off at the same time from one hangar.
In the event that a conflict must end quickly, all F-302's will make hyperspace jumps to a position determined by the ship commander. If the puddlejumpers on board have been deployed (or if there are any at all) the ship can quickly pick them up or the jumpers can cloak and be retrieved later.
Offensive/defensive weapons: 10 Main Railguns, 20 anti-fighter railguns, 128 Mark VIII's, 10 Mark IX Gatebusters.
The Mark IX Gatebusters are not only used for vaporizing stargates, but for any other purpose that the commander of the ship deems necessary. The ten Mark XI silos are located right in front of the bridge.
There is a new upgrade on the Mark VIII's that made them shorter so we can accomodate more missiles. There will be a second layer of missiles under the first one. Once the ship has fired all the missiles in it's first layer, it will begin with the second. Since the DSBC-401 is 2x the size of the DSBC-304, it will accomodate two more rows of missile silos (two more of the things I circled in red)
Other goodies: Asgard Long-range sensors, Asgard Long-range communications unit, Multiple Asgard Beaming sensors on the ships hull, multiple internal asgard beaming sensors, Self-destruct, fighter bay shields.
The self-destruct command can only be given by the commander. When this command is given, all fighters and jumpers will be launched and will fly as far away from the impending explosion as possible. The self destruct will overload the asgard generator, all of the naquadah generators, and detonate all remaining nukes at once.
Background: The asgard were nice enough to give us the chemical formula for the alloy that the hull is comprised of, along with enough Neutronium to complete the first ship in the series. They then provided us with locations of known Neutronium deposits so we may mine the stuff ourselves.
When our commanders realized that the current DSC-304's were not cutting it, in terms of shielding, firepower, and fighter support, they drew up the plans for the DSBC-401. It was designed with the purpose of heavy fire support and assult on enemy strongholds, and defense against enemy attacks on off world bases.
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 09:36 AM
BS-101, the BS-365 and the SBB-401. NEAGATIVE
PBS-501 + BS-301. POSITIVE
THIS IS MY FINAL VOTE FOR THIS CLASS BECAUSE ITS GETTING TEDIOUS! EVEN IF I STARTED THE RESTART!
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 09:38 AM
BS-101, the BS-365 and the SBB-401. NEAGATIVE
PBS-501 + BS-301. POSITIVE
THIS IS MY FINAL VOTE FOR THIS CLASS BECAUSE ITS GETTING TEDIOUS! EVEN IF I STARTED THE RESTART!
You meant 101 instead of 301 or did you mean 310? I made the same mistake.
I'm disregarding the positive votes.
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 10:31 AM
The ones im negging are all those that are not mine or DT's...make sense, so the deadman ones and the challenger (even though its cool design)
cooky
July 14th, 2006, 10:38 AM
101, 501, 310
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 11:18 AM
SBB-401. NEAGATIVE
I do not believe this is in the polling. Do you have specs for it?
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 11:20 AM
its the challenger...
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 11:21 AM
its the challenger...
Oh okay. Thanks.
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 12:05 PM
I'm closing the Round one poll for battleships early.
The standings are:
BS-101 -9
BS-365 Telemakhos -8
PBS-501 -1
BS-310 -3
Challenger -4
BS-101 is eliminated.
Commencing round 2 of the battleship elimination poll.
The ships still in the running are:
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship by deadman (needs some work)
BS-365 Telemakhos Class
Dimensions
-length 375 meters
-width 200 meters
-hieght 75 meters
Hull, Decks, and Crew
-double Triquadium Alloy Hull
-35 decks
-20 crew
-capacity 150
Power
-First Generation Tauri Ion Reactor
Propulsion
-Asgard Hyperdrive Window Generator (2 long engines)
-Ion Sublight Drive (4 engines)
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator
Shields
-Newer Asgard Class
Weapons
-2 Frontal 100 Meter Naquada Warhead Coil Guns (10 nukes each)
-4 Frontal 50 Meter Naquada-tipped Shell Coil Guns
-8 Dual High Caliber Coil Guns
-2 dozen anti-aircraft coil guns
-reversed engineered Ha'tak Plasma Cannon
-Nuke silos (located on back of ship
Backround
Project began in 2007 to better deal with ship to ship combat, the Telemakhos is the final product. This is our first ship to use Goa'uld style Plasma cannons which we reversed engineered from Free Jaffa Nation Ha'taks.
This ship is meant to compliment the 304s ship hangar with it's improved weapon systems.
-PBS-501
Designation: PBS-501
Name: Leviathon
Place of construction: Lantia, Pegasus galaxy
Type: Battleship
size: L: 850m H180m W250M
Hull: trinium-titanium-steel alloy, reinforced with plasma-relfex' ceramic plates
Power:
1 x mark I ion reactor - an asgard gift for the shield interface technology.
5 x mark II naquadah Generators
72 mark I Naquadah Generators - 1 NR powers 4 rail guns
Engines:
*2 Asgard interGalactic hyperdrive, installed as two ventral fins, capable of atlantis to earth trip in 8 days. Due to improve power sources.
*12 Hebridan ion proppulsion engine
Shielding:
*1 X asgard bubble shield
*1 X asgard internal dampening field - This make explosions and impacts to the ship extreamly lessoned making it much more resiliant to the wraith bombardment tactics.
Weaponry:
*6 wraith ship to ship plasma cannon
*48 secondary missile launch silos, each having Brand new 8 mark X Naquadriah enhanced warheads with Ion propulsion technolgy, extreamyly fast, agile and deadly. ( a variation of the Gatebuster's)
*24 main rail gun, each powered by an individual Mark I maquadah reactor - for main ship to ship
*96 secondary rail guns ( along the neck of of the ship ) - for fighters and bombers
*96 tertiary rail guns on the underside of the ship - for fighter and ground troops
Other craft:
4 - F302 fighter craft
2 Lantian puddle jumpers
1 Goa'uld cargo ship
Secondary systems:
*all standard asgard and goauld technolgy: beams, scanners, computers, translators and the like.
*transporter closets
*internal anti prior sonic devices, implanted in to the ship, always on. This prevents prior from opperating on board our ships.
Sevice Histroy and Background:
The Leviathon class ship is the first earth ship to be designed entire from the work done in the Pegasus galaxy.
The energy cannons from the hive ships were studied from a hive ship that had recently been captured and studied by the atalntis expedition and they had retroengineed the main artillary cannon on the ship, thus giving earth its first energy weapon from the wraith.
These two technolgical improvements would end the current deadalus class production line. A new class of ships was commissioned, to be built in the Pegasus galaxy at the site of a new land base on Lantia, the Leviathon, the mythic gaurdian, was heralded as the protector and savior of the Pegasus galaxy from the wraith, and of earth from the ori. Armed with supperior sheilds to any that have came before it, faster than any of our craft have ever been and in command of the latest and most powerfull weaponry we have this ship has been used to strike back at the wraith for its first time and won, the forth siege of atlantis ended with this craft, the deadalus and the orion holding back a combined fleet of 14 hive ships, these three ships taking down 9 of them before an asgard oniel class came in and destroy the other 5 ships in orbit. commanders are confindent this ship will turn the tide in the war with the wraith and are putting all thier work with the deadalus in to the new Leviathon class ship.
-BS-310 Battleship by Davidtourniquet
Andromeda Class BS-310 Battleship
Dimensions:
Length: 820m
Width: 420m
Height: 175m
Volume: 60,270,000 cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 250
Max Personal: 700
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
15 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
9 railguns (6 fore, 3 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
40x Mark VIII Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (20 silos)
32x Mark IX Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
5x Tauri/Asgard Ship-based Ion cannons (3 fore, 2 aft)
Armour:
12m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Engines:
1x Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 83% LS)
7x Fusion thrusters (capable of speeds up to 90km/s)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming Tech
Rings
History of the Andromeda Class
Not much to say about this one. It’s obviously bigger than the Rapture class
Another space-built ship because of its size.
International crew, commanded by Colonel Jack Jefferson of the US airforce
Building time: 18 months, first one to be completed in 2008.
Cost: Set to be about $16 billion or at current rate £8.71 billion.
freyr's mother
July 14th, 2006, 12:05 PM
~Challenger-class Battleship~
~Challenger-class Battleship~
~Designation: SBB-401
~Users: United States Navy, United States Air Force, Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, Russian Space Service, German Space Defense Force.
~Builder: Northrop Grumman/Newport News/Soyuz Fleet Systems/Thames Ship Builders
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
~Naval Classification: Battleship
~Dimensions:
-Length: 490 meters (1,078 feet)
-Width: 117 meters (257.4 feet)
-Height: 82 meters (180.4 feet)
-Decks: 16
~Displacement: 97,980 tons (Earth normal gravity)
~Capacity:
-Officers: 28
-Enlisted: 342
-Troops: 900
-Maximum: 2,200
~Powerplant: One Mk. IV Naquada generator
~Propulsion:
-Two Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-3 sublight ion drives
-Four Asgard/Area 51 hyperspace window generators
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator network
~Performance:
-Maximum Acceleration: 82.3 PSL
-Maximum Hyperspace Velocity: 14,998 lightyears/hour
-Maximum Hyperspace Endurance: 2.3 weeks/top speed
-Hyperspace Generator Recharge Rate: 2.5 minutes between jumps
~Ship Systems:
-Computer: Asgard Crystalline-based quantum processors; AEGIS Networking System
-Life Support: Lockheed Martin FPA-98 oxygen/CO2 filtration system
-Sensors: AN/SPY-3 Phased RADAR array; Asgard Sensor Arrays
-Navigation: Stargate Network Common Coordinate Alignment Datalink
-Communications: Northrop Grumman SST-32 Subspace Transceiver Array
~Armament:
-Eight 16" (352mm) coil guns x 500 rounds each
-Two Mk. 43 vertical Missle Launch Systems x 60 cells each (120 total)
-Sixteen 1.2" (20mm) retractable rail gun turrets x 3,000 rounds each
-Six modular ventral bays for a variety of weapons/purposes
~Defenses:
-Asgard Shields
-Inert naquada armor (engine room, bridge, weapons magazines, reactor compartment)
-Reactive armor plating
~Support Craft:
-Up to 2 Puddlejumpers/Tel'tacs in modular vental bays, or 4 F-302s, or various other smallcraft depending on mission requirements.
Technical and Historical Notes:
After Anubis's assault on Earth in the summer of 2004, the United States approached the United Kingdom, Russia, Germany, France, Canada, Australia, Japan, and China for assistance in a new joint-defensive program. Certain groups in Congress (among them a group that had been lobbying for the restoration of the American Iowa-class battleships currently in mothballs) had proposed a new starship construction program to run alongside the 303, and later 304 programs. This new starship would be jointly built, funded, and crewed by all the nations involved, and was later seen as a first step towards forming the International Committee to oversee the Stargate program.
Unfortunately, of the eight nations, only Russia, the United Kingom, and Germany agreed to participate. The other nations decided to input more funding into the Antarctica Outpost and Atlantis Expedition, and were still skeptical about the need to invest in starships with the Ancient superweapon at the South Pole. Thus, in the winter of 2004, a crash-course program to build a heavy combat starship commenced.
Utilizing technologies developed for other programs, such as the Abydos-class destroyer, the first Challenger-class battleship began construction at the Newport News yards. With funding cuts looming, the battleship program narrowly avoided being cancelled through intense private funding. Even so, the Challenger-class starship was scaled down significantly from the 2,000 meter plus dreadnaught originally designed. Her hull was also based on existing naval vessels to save money. An inadvertant advantage of this method was making the battleship able to float in water.
A covering of trinium-based armor was scaled down to reactive armor instead, and inert naquada armor reinforcing critical areas of the battleship's hull. Utilizing multi-purpose modular bays gave the battleship significant flexibility, which helped keep it from being cancelled. Trimming the hull to make it's sihoulette smaller also made it less massive, allowing it to keep up with the smaller Prometheus-class starships in simulations despite only having slightly larger engines. The ship's main guns, 16 inch coilguns, were soundly tested and demonstrated the ability to engage and destroy Gou'ald starships on their own terms. Help from the Asgard kept the vessel under budget in most areas.
Unfortunately, shakedown trials of the Challenger in the spring of 2005 demonstrated that while the vessel had been built soundly in the amazingly short amount of time it had, the Mk. II naquada reactors powering it were simply too weak to allow the ship to live up to it's full potential. With the new Daedalus-class starships in full production, the Challenger was about to be deemed a failure and scrapped.
However, the breakthrough of a joint Russian-German-US naquada generator program bore fruit, in the form of the Mk. IV naquada reactor. The Mk. III, under development by the ABydos-class destroyer program, was not yet finished, so the Mk. IV system was quickly deployed aboard the ailing Challenger. It's inclusion transformed the battleship from a lumbering hulk to a fast, powerful warship. Unfortunately, the Challenger was still months away from being complete and combat-ready, and was thus regulated to the orbit of Mars, the Abydos assisting in it's shakedown even while the destroyer underwent her own.
The Challenger's main weapons, her eight 16" coilguns, harken back to the era of big-gun battleships on Earth. The design of her turrets are actually based upon those developed for the Iowa-class battleships currently mothballed by the US Navy. However, unlike those ancient weapons, these guns can hurl 300 kilogram (660 pound) shells at ranges of over 100,000 kilometers (60,213 miles). Fired at speeds of 2,000,000 meters/sec (0.02 PSL), this works out to over 6.0 petawatts, or nearly 2 megatons of force per shot. The coilguns also have a very fast rate of fire, nearly 18 rounds a minute (or 1 round/3 seconds), giving the Challenger a minimum destructive capability of 16 megatons every 3 seconds. Naquada-enhanced shells increase this firepower to over 1,000 megatons/3 seconds, allowing the Challenger to pound Gou'ald shields apart. Her Asgard-designed shields let her slug it out with enemy vessels and destroy them before sustaining serious damage. Her advanced engines and inertial drive make her far faster and maneuverable than enemy starships, giving her a crucial edge in combat.
With the threat of the Ori, the Challenger was quickly finished and deployed to the second Ori supergate. Though untested, the battleship survived the engagement and was able to inflict moderate damage upon one Ori battleship before being forced to disengage. With this accomplishment, the Challenger-class starship program is swiftly receiving more funding and support. Two sister ships, Gagarin and Victorious, are under construction in Russia and the United Kingdom respectively. They will more than likely be rushed to completion and deployed with the strides the Ori are already making in our galaxy.
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As usual everyone gets three neg votes to distribute amongst the remaining ships as they like.
My neg votes go to:
BS-365 Telemakhos -3
Davidtourniquet
July 14th, 2006, 12:26 PM
Neg twice the Challenger and once the BS365
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 12:32 PM
one for all cet mine i geuss...
Sam fisher
July 14th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I vote againist the BS-365, the PBS-501 and the BS-310.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 14th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Neg on the BS-365, PBS-501, and the BS-310. (shrug)
cooky
July 14th, 2006, 12:40 PM
365, 501, 310
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 12:47 PM
:( Challenger seem to be winning it then...oh well :)
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 14th, 2006, 12:57 PM
:( Challenger seem to be winning it then...oh well :)
What's wrong with the Challenger winning? She's a good ship, I promise you.
Davidtourniquet
July 14th, 2006, 01:03 PM
I think people voting should explain the reasons behind their choice of votes. Just may help the designers, design better ships in the future.
Heres mine:
Reason for double neg on Challenger: one mark IV to power all that, bit small I feel.
Reason for neg on BS365: bit small and not a fan of coilguns.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 14th, 2006, 01:08 PM
I think people voting should explain the reasons behind their choice of votes. Just may help the designers, design better ships in the future.
Heres mine:
Reason for double neg on Challenger: one mark IV to power all that, bit small I feel.
Reason for neg on BS365: bit small and not a fan of coilguns.
It's not small dude. A Mk. IV reactor can power the Ancient Chair all by itself. It's about 30 times more powerful than a Mk. II reactor.
Davidtourniquet
July 14th, 2006, 01:25 PM
I just felt considering the equipment on the ship one mark IV wouldn't power it all
Buba uognarf
July 14th, 2006, 01:34 PM
two for the PBS-501 and one for the BS-310
m-16 a2
July 14th, 2006, 01:45 PM
-BS-365 Telemakhos Class Battleship
-PBS-501
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 14th, 2006, 02:26 PM
I just felt considering the equipment on the ship one mark IV wouldn't power it all
Allright, I'm going to do some revisions to the ship's specs anyway. I'll make it two Mk. IV reactors for the virtual fleet version. Here's a new pic, BTW, of the Challenger:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/challenger2.jpg
Hope you guys like it.
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 02:37 PM
I shall do a picture of the Leviathon if i must, but im a crap artist...i it looks like the on i showed you but with weapons and...stuff, im a crap artist.
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 02:38 PM
two for the PBS-501 and one for the BS-310
why twice?? forthe PBS-501?
Davidtourniquet
July 14th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I was think about a back power source as well so yeah 2 would be ok.
I like mine, although the design is similiar to the rapture class vessel i designed with one big difference.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/Davidtourniquet/stargate%20ships/Andromedaclassx-310.jpg
cooky
July 14th, 2006, 02:45 PM
AJT, do you have a top or front view for the Challenger? If you do, I'd like a chance to moddle it in 3d.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 14th, 2006, 03:08 PM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/challenger_3.jpg
Here you go, Cooky. She's built simply, but packs a punch.
Aroura-Gate
July 14th, 2006, 03:10 PM
You could Stick A big Coil Gun Down the center of the ship that would pack a huge punch
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 03:15 PM
no offence but looks a bit like an armed pencil
Aroura-Gate
July 14th, 2006, 03:16 PM
Look at it this way its harder to hit when shooting at it from the front or back
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Yeah but a battleship...thats meant to be big, tough and buff...im not beign all masculine here but a flagship/battle ship should be more imposing IMO...
Aroura-Gate
July 14th, 2006, 03:26 PM
Ok how about we give it a docking system that can connect to the same type of ship alowining it to lunch huge volleys of weapons
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 03:32 PM
ooo i like it, like a formation type thing...very nice...
cooky
July 14th, 2006, 03:40 PM
'cept it would kill any maneuverability the ship would have solo. No docking system could handel the strains of combat for long.
Aroura-Gate
July 14th, 2006, 03:54 PM
True But There are trade offs maneuverability for firepower and protection
cooky
July 14th, 2006, 03:56 PM
In the words of Han Solo, "I hate slugging matches"
immhotep
July 14th, 2006, 04:02 PM
Yeah but a battle ships primary role is to sit there an take a beating and dish out firepower like no tommorow. so that every other ship can dance aroudn doing its own thing with the knowledge that this one ship will be there to cover thier asses...if i was a a fleet of alkesh i would not like to see anubis fly in to battle in a death glider...no YOU want him to come in a big supership and kikc butt.
DaCk
July 14th, 2006, 06:10 PM
I neg the 365 x2 and the 310
I agree with immhotep. I think the Battleship should have some spiffy badass design to it. Somethin that makes everyone go WOW! NOW THATS A BATTLESHIP!!!
Sam fisher
July 14th, 2006, 08:02 PM
no offence but looks a bit like an armed pencil
Well, the pen is mightier then the sword. Hee hee hee.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 14th, 2006, 08:19 PM
Guys, it's supposed to be built quickly and simply. The design reflects this. While she's not flashy or "spiffy" looking, she still kicks ass. Her design is simple but solid. However, if you guys want me to kick it up a bit, I'll do so.
immhotep
July 15th, 2006, 02:05 AM
Then its not a battleships, its actually the definition of a destroyer...A battle ship get in to a battle, sits there and takes as much damage as possible on behalf of the rest of your fleet. If one ship is going to survive a conflict you would bet ZPM's that it would be your battleship. If it does not fill the role of sitting there and kicking ass then its not a battleship. A battleship is not you cheap option either, you pin all your hopes on 1 or 2 of these megaliths of war because you know that you will only ever need one or two of these things to keep yourself alive.
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 05:49 AM
Round 2 of Battleship elimination is done. The poll tally is as follows:
BS-365 -8
BS-310 -6
PBS-501 -6
Challenger -3
BS-365 is out. Let us begin round 3. Everyone will only get two neg votes this time.
The surviving ships are:
-BS-310 Battleship by Davidtourniquet
Andromeda Class BS-310 Battleship
Dimensions:
Length: 820m
Width: 420m
Height: 175m
Volume: 60,270,000 cubic metres
Crew Compliment: 250
Max Personal: 700
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
15 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
9 railguns (6 fore, 3 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
40x Mark VIII Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (20 silos)
32x Mark IX Naquadah enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
5x Tauri/Asgard Ship-based Ion cannons (3 fore, 2 aft)
Armour:
12m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Engines:
1x Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 83% LS)
7x Fusion thrusters (capable of speeds up to 90km/s)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other tech:
ECM
ECCM
Asgard Sensors
Asgard Beaming Tech
Rings
History of the Andromeda Class
Not much to say about this one. It’s obviously bigger than the Rapture class
Another space-built ship because of its size.
International crew, commanded by Colonel Jack Jefferson of the US airforce
Building time: 18 months, first one to be completed in 2008.
Cost: Set to be about $16 billion or at current rate £8.71 billion.
~Challenger-class Battleship~
~Challenger-class Battleship~
~Designation: SBB-401
~Users: United States Navy, United States Air Force, Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, Russian Space Service, German Space Defense Force.
~Builder: Northrop Grumman/Newport News/Soyuz Fleet Systems/Thames Ship Builders
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
~Naval Classification: Battleship
~Dimensions:
-Length: 490 meters (1,078 feet)
-Width: 117 meters (257.4 feet)
-Height: 82 meters (180.4 feet)
-Decks: 16
~Displacement: 97,980 tons (Earth normal gravity)
~Capacity:
-Officers: 28
-Enlisted: 342
-Troops: 900
-Maximum: 2,200
~Powerplant: One Mk. IV Naquada generator
~Propulsion:
-Two Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-3 sublight ion drives
-Four Asgard/Area 51 hyperspace window generators
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator network
~Performance:
-Maximum Acceleration: 82.3 PSL
-Maximum Hyperspace Velocity: 14,998 lightyears/hour
-Maximum Hyperspace Endurance: 2.3 weeks/top speed
-Hyperspace Generator Recharge Rate: 2.5 minutes between jumps
~Ship Systems:
-Computer: Asgard Crystalline-based quantum processors; AEGIS Networking System
-Life Support: Lockheed Martin FPA-98 oxygen/CO2 filtration system
-Sensors: AN/SPY-3 Phased RADAR array; Asgard Sensor Arrays
-Navigation: Stargate Network Common Coordinate Alignment Datalink
-Communications: Northrop Grumman SST-32 Subspace Transceiver Array
~Armament:
-Eight 16" (352mm) coil guns x 500 rounds each
-Two Mk. 43 vertical Missle Launch Systems x 60 cells each (120 total)
-Sixteen 1.2" (20mm) retractable rail gun turrets x 3,000 rounds each
-Six modular ventral bays for a variety of weapons/purposes
~Defenses:
-Asgard Shields
-Inert naquada armor (engine room, bridge, weapons magazines, reactor compartment)
-Reactive armor plating
~Support Craft:
-Up to 2 Puddlejumpers/Tel'tacs in modular vental bays, or 4 F-302s, or various other smallcraft depending on mission requirements.
Technical and Historical Notes:
After Anubis's assault on Earth in the summer of 2004, the United States approached the United Kingdom, Russia, Germany, France, Canada, Australia, Japan, and China for assistance in a new joint-defensive program. Certain groups in Congress (among them a group that had been lobbying for the restoration of the American Iowa-class battleships currently in mothballs) had proposed a new starship construction program to run alongside the 303, and later 304 programs. This new starship would be jointly built, funded, and crewed by all the nations involved, and was later seen as a first step towards forming the International Committee to oversee the Stargate program.
Unfortunately, of the eight nations, only Russia, the United Kingom, and Germany agreed to participate. The other nations decided to input more funding into the Antarctica Outpost and Atlantis Expedition, and were still skeptical about the need to invest in starships with the Ancient superweapon at the South Pole. Thus, in the winter of 2004, a crash-course program to build a heavy combat starship commenced.
Utilizing technologies developed for other programs, such as the Abydos-class destroyer, the first Challenger-class battleship began construction at the Newport News yards. With funding cuts looming, the battleship program narrowly avoided being cancelled through intense private funding. Even so, the Challenger-class starship was scaled down significantly from the 2,000 meter plus dreadnaught originally designed. Her hull was also based on existing naval vessels to save money. An inadvertant advantage of this method was making the battleship able to float in water.
A covering of trinium-based armor was scaled down to reactive armor instead, and inert naquada armor reinforcing critical areas of the battleship's hull. Utilizing multi-purpose modular bays gave the battleship significant flexibility, which helped keep it from being cancelled. Trimming the hull to make it's sihoulette smaller also made it less massive, allowing it to keep up with the smaller Prometheus-class starships in simulations despite only having slightly larger engines. The ship's main guns, 16 inch coilguns, were soundly tested and demonstrated the ability to engage and destroy Gou'ald starships on their own terms. Help from the Asgard kept the vessel under budget in most areas.
Unfortunately, shakedown trials of the Challenger in the spring of 2005 demonstrated that while the vessel had been built soundly in the amazingly short amount of time it had, the Mk. II naquada reactors powering it were simply too weak to allow the ship to live up to it's full potential. With the new Daedalus-class starships in full production, the Challenger was about to be deemed a failure and scrapped.
However, the breakthrough of a joint Russian-German-US naquada generator program bore fruit, in the form of the Mk. IV naquada reactor. The Mk. III, under development by the ABydos-class destroyer program, was not yet finished, so the Mk. IV system was quickly deployed aboard the ailing Challenger. It's inclusion transformed the battleship from a lumbering hulk to a fast, powerful warship. Unfortunately, the Challenger was still months away from being complete and combat-ready, and was thus regulated to the orbit of Mars, the Abydos assisting in it's shakedown even while the destroyer underwent her own.
The Challenger's main weapons, her eight 16" coilguns, harken back to the era of big-gun battleships on Earth. The design of her turrets are actually based upon those developed for the Iowa-class battleships currently mothballed by the US Navy. However, unlike those ancient weapons, these guns can hurl 300 kilogram (660 pound) shells at ranges of over 100,000 kilometers (60,213 miles). Fired at speeds of 2,000,000 meters/sec (0.02 PSL), this works out to over 6.0 petawatts, or nearly 2 megatons of force per shot. The coilguns also have a very fast rate of fire, nearly 18 rounds a minute (or 1 round/3 seconds), giving the Challenger a minimum destructive capability of 16 megatons every 3 seconds. Naquada-enhanced shells increase this firepower to over 1,000 megatons/3 seconds, allowing the Challenger to pound Gou'ald shields apart. Her Asgard-designed shields let her slug it out with enemy vessels and destroy them before sustaining serious damage. Her advanced engines and inertial drive make her far faster and maneuverable than enemy starships, giving her a crucial edge in combat.
With the threat of the Ori, the Challenger was quickly finished and deployed to the second Ori supergate. Though untested, the battleship survived the engagement and was able to inflict moderate damage upon one Ori battleship before being forced to disengage. With this accomplishment, the Challenger-class starship program is swiftly receiving more funding and support. Two sister ships, Gagarin and Victorious, are under construction in Russia and the United Kingdom respectively. They will more than likely be rushed to completion and deployed with the strides the Ori are already making in our galaxy.
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freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 05:50 AM
-PBS-501
Designation: PBS-501
Name: Leviathon
Place of construction: Lantia, Pegasus galaxy
Type: Battleship
size: L: 850m H180m W250M
Hull: trinium-titanium-steel alloy, reinforced with plasma-relfex' ceramic plates
Power:
1 x mark I ion reactor - an asgard gift for the shield interface technology.
5 x mark II naquadah Generators
72 mark I Naquadah Generators - 1 NR powers 4 rail guns
Engines:
*2 Asgard interGalactic hyperdrive, installed as two ventral fins, capable of atlantis to earth trip in 8 days. Due to improve power sources.
*12 Hebridan ion proppulsion engine
Shielding:
*1 X asgard bubble shield
*1 X asgard internal dampening field - This make explosions and impacts to the ship extreamly lessoned making it much more resiliant to the wraith bombardment tactics.
Weaponry:
*6 wraith ship to ship plasma cannon
*120 secondary missile launch silos, each having Brand new 8 mark X Naquadriah enhanced warheads with Ion propulsion technolgy, extreamyly fast, agile and deadly. ( a variation of the Gatebuster's)
*24 main rail gun, each powered by an individual Mark I maquadah reactor - for main ship to ship
*96 secondary rail guns ( along the neck of of the ship ) - for fighters and bombers
Other craft:
4 - F302 fighter craft
2 Lantian puddle jumpers
1 Goa'uld cargo ship
Secondary systems:
*all standard asgard and goauld technolgy: beams, scanners, computers, translators and the like.
*transporter closets
*internal anti prior sonic devices, implanted in to the ship, always on. This prevents prior from opperating on board our ships.
Sevice Histroy and Background:
The Leviathon class ship is the first earth ship to be designed entire from the work done in the Pegasus galaxy.
The energy cannons from the hive ships were studied from a hive ship that had recently been captured and studied by the atalntis expedition and they had retroengineed the main artillary cannon on the ship, thus giving earth its first energy weapon from the wraith.
These two technolgical improvements would end the current deadalus class production line. A new class of ships was commissioned, to be built in the Pegasus galaxy at the site of a new land base on Lantia, the Leviathon, the mythic gaurdian, was heralded as the protector and savior of the Pegasus galaxy from the wraith, and of earth from the ori. Armed with supperior sheilds to any that have came before it, faster than any of our craft have ever been and in command of the latest and most powerfull weaponry we have this ship has been used to strike back at the wraith for its first time and won, the forth siege of atlantis ended with this craft, the deadalus and the orion holding back a combined fleet of 14 hive ships, these three ships taking down 9 of them before an asgard oniel class came in and destroy the other 5 ships in orbit. commanders are confindent this ship will turn the tide in the war with the wraith and are putting all thier work with the deadalus in to the new Leviathon class ship.
My neg votes go to:
Challenger -2
Davidtourniquet
July 15th, 2006, 06:09 AM
Challenger -2
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 15th, 2006, 06:34 AM
Then its not a battleships, its actually the definition of a destroyer...A battle ship get in to a battle, sits there and takes as much damage as possible on behalf of the rest of your fleet. If one ship is going to survive a conflict you would bet ZPM's that it would be your battleship. If it does not fill the role of sitting there and kicking ass then its not a battleship. A battleship is not you cheap option either, you pin all your hopes on 1 or 2 of these megaliths of war because you know that you will only ever need one or two of these things to keep yourself alive.
Uh, no. Battleships are supposed to close with and engage enemy ships and destroy them, using their superior manueverability, speed, protection, and firepower. Our Iowa-class battleships were the fastest battleships ever built. They were intended to keep up with carriers and protect them from enemy vessels that got too close. They were also supposed to keep a constant barrage of fire on enemy targets, hitting them fast and hard and making sure they didn't get a shot in edgewise.
Challenger is a battleship reduced to it's basics: Speed, firepower, and protection. From the start she was designed to launch her missiles under the cover of her rail and coil guns, blowing apart fighter and escort ship formations in order to get ordnance on the capital ships and destroy them. Originally intended to go up against the Gou'ald, she is in fact the perfect weapon against the Wraith, having big guns that can blow their unshielded hulls apart, before finishing the ships off with a missile strike. If she'd been deployed to the Pegasus Galaxy instead of the Daedalus, things would have turned out a whole lot different for us. Without needing to rely on beaming nukes onto the Wraith hive ships to destroy them, we could continue to mount an offensive campaign against them and, as Sheppard would say, "Kick their asses for a change."
Against the Ori, she's as effective as any of our other ships-More effective in a number of cases, actually. THe extra power available to her shields lets her hold out nearly twice as long under their sustained fire as a DSC-304 can, giving her captain more options and more chances to deal some damage of their own. Her profile makes her a very difficult target to hit. And her speed and manueverability is better than a 304's, which is crucial in combat against an enemy you can't slug it out with and beat.
She doesn't have uber fancy technology or other crap like that because she's supposed to be built in a hurry. She has effective technology, up to date and readily available. A super battleship that's only half-way done is just a big target for an enemy. The less time you need to build it, the better, and my Challenger class vessel can be built in much less time, for much less money than it's competitors. In the real world, the Challenger would be the clear victor for this contest.
My neg votes go to the BS-310. No offense Davidtourniquet, but I think my ship is simply a better choice for the situation at hand.
m-16 a2
July 15th, 2006, 06:52 AM
I vote Challenger-class Battleship. Also someone said my frigate was too big and would actually be a destroyer, but I would like to point out that the sizes of the ships don't determine if it's a destroyer. That term is used for a multi purpose craft that was origionally designed to destroy submarines. The size might determine wether it's a battleship or frigate, but destoyers can be any size.
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 07:32 AM
I vote Challenger-class Battleship. Also someone said my frigate was too big and would actually be a destroyer, but I would like to point out that the sizes of the ships don't determine if it's a destroyer. That term is used for a multi purpose craft that was origionally designed to destroy submarines. The size might determine wether it's a battleship or frigate, but destoyers can be any size.
Read the voting instructions. Everyone gets two negative votes they can cast.
m-16 a2
July 15th, 2006, 07:52 AM
Okay, both go to the Challenger-class Battleship.
immhotep
July 15th, 2006, 08:12 AM
Neg:
Bs-310
Challenger
aAnubiSs
July 15th, 2006, 08:14 AM
Votes:
310
501
Funny how people seem to neg the most realistic BB of them all. Boo to you all.
Seastallion
July 15th, 2006, 09:02 AM
New Fighter Concept
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9706/fighter3gq.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fighter3gq.jpg)
Details to come soon.... what you think of this for a new fighter 302 hybrid replacment?
It looks like a great Heavy fighter..! Well done. I'd place it a few decades in the future yet, though. :)
I neg 310. ;)
cooky
July 15th, 2006, 09:20 AM
310, 501
immhotep
July 15th, 2006, 10:43 AM
BTW FM can you edit my leviathon design if it gets through, not loads just take of the tertiary railguns...just leave the main ones, secondary fighter ones, missiles and the wriath guns.
thanks
Buba uognarf
July 15th, 2006, 11:22 AM
Bs-310 -2
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 11:25 AM
It looks like a great Heavy fighter..! Well done. I'd place it a few decades in the future yet, though. :)
I neg 310. ;)
You can neg up to 2 ships at a time.
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 11:42 AM
I will close the poll in 1 hour and 20 minutes. Everyone who has not voted and would like to should vote now.
m-16 a2
July 15th, 2006, 01:51 PM
All designs are good. Just wanted the people's ships that loses to know that, because they're all great.
immhotep
July 15th, 2006, 02:44 PM
im going to do this because FM isnt on she can officiate it later i geuss:
challenger: 9
BS-310: 8 or 9 ( 9 if seastallion is using both his votes for the BS-310, which seems likely)
PBS- 501: 2
I dont know the verdict but if seastallion is using both his votes then both ships are out and the need for another round isnt there...in which case the Leviathon would be the finalist.
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 03:11 PM
im going to do this because FM isnt on she can officiate it later i geuss:
Hey, I'm a guy!
immhotep
July 15th, 2006, 03:19 PM
Sorry its the whole mother thing... i auto assume female!! (eek)
but still. officiate, i do think seastallion meant two votes, otherwise he would have put two ships...and the polling thre is pretty conclusive.
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Sorry its the whole mother thing... i auto assume female!! (eek)
Don't worry, you weren't the first and probably won't be the last. Some guy called me missy even though he knew damn well I am male. I even told him and he's like "I'm still going to call you missy." And then I'm like WTF m8?
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 03:32 PM
Okay people, you're going to have to help me out. Are these the only designs that we have for the Battlecarrier and Carrier classes. I know there were 2 people that were in the middle of editing their ships, but werer there any more designs accepted into the competition that I am forgetting?
Carriers
DSC-308 Longsword
DSC 308 longsword
Type: Deep space carrier
Technology Base: Earth/Asgard/Goauld
Hull: Titanium/trinium Alloy with Carbon composites
Dimensions:
-Length: 470m
-Width: 200m
-Height: 80m
Crew: 200
Powerplant: 4 Mk. IV Naquadah Generator
Engines:
advanced hyperspace window generator
Four advanced ion-based sublight drives
Anti-gravity wave generators
Support craft:
-48 F-302s
-24 F-307s (see page 14 of this tread for my f-307 design and specs)
Weapons:
-10 double barreled heavy coil guns 1000 rounds each
-44 remote controled light coil guns 1000 rounds each
-40 naquada enhanced nuclear warheads
Defenses:
-Inert Naquadah Plating in certain areas
-Advanced Asgard designed shields
Other tech:
-AFC (adaptable flight computer)
-Asgard sensor tech
-Asgard Beeming tech
-Gou'ald rings
The first of this line of ships rolled off the production line in 2010 when it was decided that there was a need for a ship with a greater fighter capacity that the 304. As the F-307s have verticle takeoff and landing there is a second hanger doar located on top of the hanger bay for the 307s. All of the hanger openings have bulkhead doars but also when in a battle situation a teporary shield is activated over the opening alowing craft to take off whilst people opperate insid the hanger. As there will be multiple craft being lanched and landing on the ship there is a comand point on top of each hanger to monitor the craft alot like an air trafic control center. The longsword was not designed to go in to battle on its own and would only go in to a danger zone acompanied by a battle ship meaning that it has limited offensive capabilities and the main coil guns are only to desencorage a ship from attacking, however the ship does have good defensive capabilities with many point defence coil guns. it was decided that more power should be put in to defence as there is no point in having a fighter carrier when there is no carrier left fo the fighters to go back to.
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DSC-375
‘The Constellation’
Designation: DSC-375
Type: Deep Space Carrier / Command vessel
Hull: Titanium / Trinium alloy
Crew: 5000 including flight crews and pilots (also capable of holding thousands of troops in converted hangers for ground assaults)
Constructed by: Tau’ri / Asgard
Dimensions:
Length: 800m
Width: 310m
Hieght: 150m
Power:
2 custom made Neutrino generators supplied by the Asgard.
Propulsion:
Asgard hyperdrive
2 main Ion engines
6 (3 on each side of the main engines) directional Ion engines
Anti-gravity wave generators
Weapons: Defensive
Rail guns – 46 double barreled 20mm anti-fighter
Coil guns – 10 double barreled 5m anti-ship
Shielding:
Asgard shield
Asgard hanger shields
Asgard internal dampening field
Trinium armor plating on crucial areas of the vessel
Support craft:
1 fighter bay holding 20 fighters.
3 fighter bays holding 30 fighters each.
16 hangers capable of holding a single drop ship in each one.
12 side hangers capable of holding 1 small bomber or cargo ship in each.
8 smaller hangers holding various support craft such as puddle jumpers
Other:
Asgard sensors
Asgard transporters
Asgard holographic technology as part of the communication system
Rings
Inter-galactic communication systems
Battlecarrier
-DSBC-401 By Freyr’s Mother
DSBC-401
Price: $ 10 Billion
Hull: Naquadah, Carbon, Trinium, Neutronium alloy
Size: 2x Size of DSC-304 in every way
Sub-light Propulsion: 10 Sub-light engines (Standard DSC sub-light system)
Power: Standard Asgard Power source, 48 Mark III Naquadah Generators provide secondary power
Hyperdrive: Asgard Hyperdrive
Shields: Top of the line Asgard shields (The one's they have on the O'Neill class ships)
Fighter compliment: 64 F-302's, 2 Puddlejumpers (fully loaded with drones)
Crew compliment: 3,500
There are 500 marines on board.
The fighter bays will be two times as wide, two times as long, and two times as tall. There are 16 F-302's on the top deck and 16 F-302's on the lower deck. Both hangars are utilized. The fighter elevator can lift up to four F-302's from the lower deck to the top deck at once. Since the DSBC-401 is 2x as wide, 2 F-302's will be able to take off at the same time from one hangar.
In the event that a conflict must end quickly, all F-302's will make hyperspace jumps to a position determined by the ship commander. If the puddlejumpers on board have been deployed (or if there are any at all) the ship can quickly pick them up or the jumpers can cloak and be retrieved later.
Offensive/defensive weapons: 14 Main Railguns, 24 anti-fighter railguns, 150 Mark VIII's, 10 Mark IX Gatebusters, 4 Wraith ship to ship plasma cannons reverse engineered from the captured hive.
The Mark IX Gatebusters are not only used for vaporizing stargates, but for any other purpose that the commander of the ship deems necessary. The ten Mark XI silos are located right in front of the bridge.
There is a new upgrade on the Mark VIII's that made them shorter so we can accomodate more missiles. There will be a second layer of missiles under the first one. Once the ship has fired all the missiles in it's first layer, it will begin with the second. Since the DSBC-401 is 2x the size of the DSBC-304, it will accomodate two more rows of missile silos (two more of the things I circled in red)
Other goodies: Asgard Long-range sensors, Asgard Long-range communications unit, Multiple Asgard Beaming sensors on the ships hull, multiple internal asgard beaming sensors, Self-destruct, fighter bay shields.
The self-destruct command can only be given by the commander. When this command is given, all fighters and jumpers will be launched and will fly as far away from the impending explosion as possible. The self destruct will overload the asgard generator, all of the naquadah generators, and detonate all remaining nukes at once.
Background: The asgard were nice enough to give us the chemical formula for the alloy that the hull is comprised of, along with enough Neutronium to complete the first ship in the series. They then provided us with locations of known Neutronium deposits so we may mine the stuff ourselves.
When our commanders realized that the current DSC-304's were not cutting it, in terms of shielding, firepower, and fighter support, they drew up the plans for the DSBC-401. It was designed with the purpose of heavy fire support and assult on enemy strongholds, and defense against enemy attacks on off world bases.
DSBC - 311 by Buba uognarf
DSBC - 311
Class name: Cobra
Type: Deep space battle carrier
Technology Base: Earth/Asgard
Hull: Titanium/trinium Alloy
Dimensions:
-Length: 630m
-Width: 230m
-Height: 85m
Crew: 250-350
Powerplant: 7 Mk. V Naquadah Generators
Engines:
-asgard hyper drive
-Four large tauri design ion drives
-Anti-gravity wave generators
-12 emergency thrusters
Support craft:
hanger 1 - 20 F-302A's / F/B-307's
hanger 2 - 20 F-302A's / F/B-307's
Weapons:
- 44 rail guns placed for full fire coverage
- 2 forward 20m barrel coil guns
- 14 smaller 10m anti ship coil guns
- 90 naquada enhanced nuclear warheads forward weapons array has 6 silos capable of launching 12 missiles almost similtanuosly
- 1 rear missile silo
- 1 starboard missile silo
- 1 port missile silo
Defenses:
- 6m thick reacitve armour plating
- Asgard designed shields
- Asgard structual integrety field
Other tech:
-Asgard sensor tech
-Asgard heavy beaming room(16 triangulated beamers capable of processing 100 lifeform patterns)
-Gou'ald rings
-asgard beaming tech
The tauri decided in 2009 that a ship capable of landing anti culling force must be designed for the war effort against the wraith thus the cobra was built to carry the troops and fighters into battle against the wraith. It has a large fighter complement to deal with darts and is itself heavily armed although still no match for an upgraded hiveship.
It also has the largest beaming facilities of any ship on record with a specialised beaming room capable of transporting 100 troops to the ground thanks to it's 16 triangulated beamers capable of setting seperate cordinates.
DSBC-312 Prestige Class Battlecarrier by Davidtourniquet
DSBC-312 Prestige Class Battlecarrier
Dimensions:
Length: 625m
Width: 245m
Height: 115m
Volume: 17.6 million cubic metres
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
8 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
6 railguns (4 fore, 2 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
32x Mark VIII Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
22x Mark IX Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear missiles (11 silos)
3x Wraith Plasma Cannons (2 fore, 1 aft)
Shields:
1x Asgard Shield Generator
Armour:
8.5m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Fighters:
30 F-302As (by MillenniumLance) (hangars 1 and 2)
Hangar 3 has the option of having, more F-302As, Wraith Darts or Jumpers.
Engines:
Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 86% LS)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other Tech:
Asgard Beaming Tech
Asgard Sensors
ECM
ECCM
Rings
History of the Prestige Class
4 years after the launch of the Daedulus class Carrier, a new Carrier was required.
The result between mainly the Americans and the British was the prestige class.
With the capturing of the Wraith hive ship in “no mans land”. The first thing to do was to try and incorporate the plasma weapons into our ships offensive weaponry.
The other main upgrade to the daedulus, is the 3rd hangar which sits on top of the ship (like the Prometheus’s bridge, just this time a hangar). At this time, it is undecided whether to fill this with Darts,F-302As or Jumpers or a mixture of the 3.
WE ARE NOT VOTING YET, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON DESIGNS.
Aroura-Gate
July 15th, 2006, 03:34 PM
No I am Almost done give me like an hour and Ill have it
immhotep
July 15th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Im geussing the battleships class was won by the Leviathon then?
Also nikver has a good design thing that i helped do earlier....ill refine it a bit though, its not actually a carrier per se it like a mobile ground fortress thing, it has ground combat vehicles and lands and its like a base that is designed to go on to a planet rather than fight in space...it was quite cool. (post 2moro)
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 03:41 PM
Im geussing the battleships class was won by the Leviathon then?
Yup.
Also nikver has a good design thing that i helped do earlier....ill refine it a bit though, its not actually a carrier per se it like a mobile ground fortress thing, it has ground combat vehicles and lands and its like a base that is designed to go on to a planet rather than fight in space...it was quite cool. (post 2moro)
He PM'ed me something but it needed more work so I sent it back for him to edit. I'm still waiting on it. It is the Eos Class Carrier. Is that what you were talking about?
freyr's mother
July 15th, 2006, 03:47 PM
Here's a design I found sitting in my PM inbox:
DSBC - 311 by Buba uognarf
DSBC - 311
Class name: Cobra
Type: Deep space battle carrier
Technology Base: Earth/Asgard
Hull: Titanium/trinium Alloy
Dimensions:
-Length: 630m
-Width: 230m
-Height: 85m
Crew: 250-350
Powerplant: 7 Mk. V Naquadah Generators
Engines:
-asgard hyper drive
-Four large tauri design ion drives
-Anti-gravity wave generators
-12 emergency thrusters
Support craft:
hanger 1 - 20 F-302A's / F/B-307's
hanger 2 - 20 F-302A's / F/B-307's
Weapons:
- 44 rail guns placed for full fire coverage
- 2 forward 20m barrel coil guns
- 14 smaller 10m anti ship coil guns
- 90 naquada enhanced nuclear warheads forward weapons array has 6 silos capable of launching 12 missiles almost similtanuosly
- 1 rear missile silo
- 1 starboard missile silo
- 1 port missile silo
Defenses:
- 6m thick reacitve armour plating
- Asgard designed shields
- Asgard structual integrety field
Other tech:
-Asgard sensor tech
-Asgard heavy beaming room(16 triangulated beamers capable of processing 100 lifeform patterns)
-Gou'ald rings
-asgard beaming tech
The tauri decided in 2009 that a ship capable of landing anti culling force must be designed for the war effort against the wraith thus the cobra was built to carry the troops and fighters into battle against the wraith. It has a large fighter complement to deal with darts and is itself heavily armed although still no match for an upgraded hiveship.
It also has the largest beaming facilities of any ship on record with a specialised beaming room capable of transporting 100 troops to the ground thanks to it's 16 triangulated beamers capable of setting seperate cordinates.
m-16 a2
July 15th, 2006, 05:13 PM
A lot of people here seem smart. Can anyone tell me how to put a paint picture onto a post?
cooky
July 15th, 2006, 05:19 PM
I've got a carrier in the works, but it is a few days, maybe a week till it'll be ready. I'm doing work on my truck this weekend, so 3d-ing is currently on hold.
DaCk
July 15th, 2006, 05:30 PM
You know ive always wondered why everyone always says in their ship designs "Goauld Rings" Everyone should know if theyve watched Stargate that the Rings were made by the Ancients.
The Leviathon won? Ook... Its a good ship. FM your a guy?!? Whats with the whole mother thing?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 03:03 AM
W00T! for the Leviathon
FM, there is a really good carrier in the OSDT by AJT. I like it alot, i was going to do my own but i think this one is better than i could do. the Aegis class.
I have an idea for a mobile command base type thing, its like the alpha site but can move.
Davidtourniquet
July 16th, 2006, 03:07 AM
You know ive always wondered why everyone always says in their ship designs "Goauld Rings" Everyone should know if theyve watched Stargate that the Rings were made by the Ancients.
The Leviathon won? Ook... Its a good ship. FM your a guy?!? Whats with the whole mother thing?
I just put rings.
Congrats on the Leviathon, I just wanna know what was wrong with mine. To me it seemed perfect.
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 03:49 AM
Nothing was wrong with it really, it was a good ship. But I couldnt vote for myself, Your IMO was more 'battleship' than the challenger. But no hard feelings, You get nominated cos your considered to have a very good, even best design after all.
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 05:19 AM
I nominate these three ships for the battle carrier class voting:
Aegis-class starship
prestige class BC-312
DSBC - 311
All can be found on page 52 of the OSDT.
freyr's mother
July 16th, 2006, 06:22 AM
I nominate these three ships for the battle carrier class voting:
Aegis-class starship
prestige class BC-312
DSBC - 311
All can be found on page 52 of the OSDT.
Can you provide links to them please. It's hard being swamped with PM's of Carrier and BC designs.
Speaking of which, here's a late entry by Gen_J_O'Neill :
DSC-375
‘The Constellation’
Designation: DSC-375
Type: Deep Space Carrier / Command vessel
Hull: Titanium / Trinium alloy
Crew: 5000 including flight crews and pilots (also capable of holding thousands of troops in converted hangers for ground assaults)
Constructed by: Tau’ri / Asgard
Dimensions:
Length: 800m
Width: 310m
Hieght: 150m
Power:
2 custom made Neutrino generators supplied by the Asgard.
Propulsion:
Asgard hyperdrive
2 main Ion engines
6 (3 on each side of the main engines) directional Ion engines
Anti-gravity wave generators
Weapons: Defensive
Rail guns – 46 double barreled 20mm anti-fighter
Coil guns – 10 double barreled 5m anti-ship
Shielding:
Asgard shield
Asgard hanger shields
Asgard internal dampening field
Trinium armor plating on crucial areas of the vessel
Support craft:
1 fighter bay holding 20 fighters.
3 fighter bays holding 30 fighters each.
16 hangers capable of holding a single drop ship in each one.
12 side hangers capable of holding 1 small bomber or cargo ship in each.
8 smaller hangers holding various support craft such as puddle jumpers
Other:
Asgard sensors
Asgard transporters
Asgard holographic technology as part of the communication system
Rings
Inter-galaxy communication systems
FM your a guy?!?
Yes.
Whats with the whole mother thing?
If you remember from Fail Safe, where Jack get's pissed off at Freyr for not intervening in getting rid of the asteroid, he makes a reference to Freyr's Mother. I loved the whole thing that went on there so I became Freyr's mother.
Buba uognarf
July 16th, 2006, 10:13 AM
are we also going to be voting on what technology becomes standardised for the fleet?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 10:28 AM
Probley not, Basicly after weve got all the deisgns for the class's then ill look at them all together, read their backstories, see which ones match up, then ill write up a cool backstory that is a coherent patchwork of all of them. Then ill post that, you can tell me what you think and well disect that to see if it works Ok. The designs will get slightly standardised too, eg same type of engine's etc...if we all vote on that part of the process too then it will take ages. Better if one person does it and then everyone else review it and the modification can be made.
Buba uognarf
July 16th, 2006, 10:43 AM
alright we don't wanna be here for months....then we have a virtual war....have you thought maybe adding some wraith upgrades into the backstory?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Yes that will be a key thing about the backstories, the fleet, for the moment is going to be a fleet designed and built to defeat the wraith. The asurians and the ori are secondary in this context, simply because we dont know enough to design a fleet around them anyway the wraith howevere are an enemy we can just about handle if we get our ass in gear, which is what this fleet is all about.
Buba uognarf
July 16th, 2006, 12:00 PM
are you gonna do all the backstories yourself?
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 12:03 PM
You should know that I made it so that all my ships have a linked backstory... But since none of them won, it's kind of irrelevent, so nevermind. I just hope my Aegis gets in.
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 12:06 PM
I probley will do the backstories because ive already started bits of them in this thread, with the ships voted for ill just be adding more to the other ones. i shouldnt take too long after we have the final class's decided. Once i get a draft done then ill post it, and then everyone can pick it appart. then we play :D
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 12:17 PM
Sweet. Hm... For this large a of fleet, we're going to need a few space stations and yards to maintain it. To make things easier on you FM, I could design them myself to take care of the ships that won, and we can then use them?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 12:27 PM
I have already put in the earlier backstory posts that the Asgard have placed 4 Ship manufacturing plants in orbit around atlantis for the use of the Tauri, as well as for thier own use becuase thier old ones were destroyed in the war with the replicators
Davidtourniquet
July 16th, 2006, 12:39 PM
What I wanna know is how is this funky space battle gonna work?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 12:47 PM
Well the modelling team will figure out the graphics, but i see the battles and the playing about as kind of a role-playing type thing. Ill give you a senarious, Eg you drop out of hyperspace to refuel, you have XYZ with you, your are face ABC. and people can just just have fun fighting virtually rather than waiting to see it graphicly (which might become avalbable at some point)...thats how i see it, if anyone else has other ideas for the space battleling post it.
Davidtourniquet
July 16th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Yeah have a second fleet. Say the runners up of the ships already voted for are in the B fleet.
cooky
July 16th, 2006, 01:09 PM
The space battles will probly end up being fan-fiction stories with pics made by those who can to portray 1 or 2 key moments in the story.
Producing a realistic battle sceen (one still picture) with even half a dozen ships, weapons fire and shields will take hours. Much as I'd love to do video sequences of these battles, the work load would be extreme. Think roughly 50-75 hours of work for each minute of video. Unfortunatelly we don't have enough people with 3d animation or video editing skills to pull that off.
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 01:25 PM
No if we can get one picture of the fleet as a whole or a few images then the rest of the ideas and fanfic will come from us. which im lookign forward to.
Davidtourniquet
July 16th, 2006, 01:30 PM
I had an Idea for a synopsis: Earth's first fleet converts to the Ori, but before the fleet gets all the fancy weapons and shields, Earths 2nd fleet enters the seen and tries to unconvert them. The Commander of the flagship spouts some origin stuff and starts attacking the other fleet. Good bad ugly?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 01:36 PM
Cept the fleets in pegasus...lets get the fleet done first, then well play :D...im itching too as well :)
Davidtourniquet
July 16th, 2006, 01:49 PM
^ They could still get converted :P
By the way what do you think about having a 2nd fleet of the voting runners up.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 01:53 PM
That's what we're already considering dude. How about this? The winning fleet is a refugee fleet from an alternate universe (like in "Threads") where the Ori have destroyed Earth. These ships come to this universe to help, where the runner-up ships are operational. What do you guys think about that?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 01:53 PM
Im not against it, Actually it could be a really cool thing, BUT we would have to move it to another forum, because the two fleets would have to be seperate and have different teams and allegences for every member so that no one knew what the other was planning, so we could actually fight...this stuff will all spin out of the origional fleet though, exactly what i was hoping :)
freyr's mother
July 16th, 2006, 03:39 PM
Davidtourniquet has given me a design:
DSBC-312 Prestige Class Battlecarrier
DSBC-312 Prestige Class Battlecarrier
Dimensions:
Length: 625m
Width: 245m
Height: 115m
Volume: 17.6 million cubic metres
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
8 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
6 railguns (4 fore, 2 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
32x Mark VIII Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
22x Mark IX Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear missiles (11 silos)
3x Wraith Plasma Cannons (2 fore, 1 aft)
Shields:
1x Asgard Shield Generator
Armour:
8.5m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Fighters:
30 F-302As (by MillenniumLance) (hangars 1 and 2)
Hangar 3 has the option of having, more F-302As, Wraith Darts or Jumpers.
Engines:
Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 86% LS)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other Tech:
Asgard Beaming Tech
Asgard Sensors
ECM
ECCM
Rings
History of the Prestige Class
4 years after the launch of the Daedulus class Carrier, a new Carrier was required.
The result between mainly the Americans and the British was the prestige class.
With the capturing of the Wraith hive ship in “no mans land”. The first thing to do was to try and incorporate the plasma weapons into our ships offensive weaponry.
The other main upgrade to the daedulus, is the 3rd hangar which sits on top of the ship (like the Prometheus’s bridge, just this time a hangar). At this time, it is undecided whether to fill this with Darts,F-302As or Jumpers or a mixture of the 3.
All I need is one carrier design and then we can begin voting.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Didn't you get my Aegis?
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 03:44 PM
Check out the OSDT, there are about 6 designs in the last page alone. All are pretty good. Start there for designs.
freyr's mother
July 16th, 2006, 03:49 PM
I didn't really see anything reasonable, all I saw was fanwank. AJT, I got your aegis but I don't quite know what happened to it in my mailbox, i probably deleted the mail. Could you re-send me everything you have on it?
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 03:50 PM
Certainly.
immhotep
July 16th, 2006, 03:55 PM
Ok then the Aegis and the prestige are the only designs...cept that one cookys working on..
freyr's mother
July 16th, 2006, 03:56 PM
Ok then the Aegis and the prestige are the only designs...cept that one cookys working on..
Only designs for what? And I am not waiting for cooky's forever.
freyr's mother
July 16th, 2006, 03:59 PM
~Aegis-class starship~
~Type: Large hyperspace-capable starship
~Designation: SCVN-365
~Users: United States Navy, United States Air Force.
~Builder: Northrop Grumman/Newport News
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
~Naval Classification: Carrier/Assault Ship
~Dimensions:
-Length: 450 meters (990 feet)
-Width: 127 meters (279.4 feet)
-Height: 72 meters (158.4 feet)
-Decks: 14
~Displacement: 86,230 tons (Earth normal gravity)
~Capacity:
-Officers: 39
-Enlisted: 491 (112 for ship operations, 379 for the airwing)
-Troops: 3,000
-Maximum: 4,500
~Powerplant: One Mk. IV Naquada generator
~Propulsion:
-Two Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-3 sublight ion drives
-Four Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-6 sublight ion drives
-Two Asgard/Area 51 hyperspace window generators
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator network
~Performance:
-Maximum Acceleration: 93.3 PSL
-Maximum Hyperspace Velocity: 17,998 lightyears/hour
-Maximum Hyperspace Endurance: 4.5 weeks/top speed
-Hyperspace Generator Recharge Rate: 17 seconds between jumps
~Ship Systems:
-Computer: Asgard Crystalline-based quantum processors;
AEGIS Networking System
-Life Support: Lockheed Martin FPA-93 oxygen/CO2
filtration system
-Sensors: Asgard Sensor Array
-Navigation: Stargate Network Common Coordinate Alignment
Datalink
-Communications: Northrop Grumman SST-42 Subspace
Transceiver Array
~Armament:
-Twelve x 20mm rail gun cannons x 10,000 rounds each
-80+ air/spacecraft
~Defenses:
-Asgard Shields
-Inert naquada armor belt (3.5 inches)
-Reactive armor plating (12.5 inches)
-Cloaking Device
~Units:
SCVN-365 USS Aegis
SCVN-366 USS Helios
SCVN-367 USS Thrace
SCVN-368 USS Icarus
SCVN-369 USS Hercules (destroyed)
SCVN-370 USS Argo
SCVN-371 USS Jason [under construction]
[u]Technical and Historical Notes:
The idea of a spaceborn carrier for F-302s had been considered
since the launch of the first prototype fighter. However, the
Deadalus-class starships offered a battleship, carrier,
and troop ship all rolled into one, and so was the craft of
choice. Alongside the 304-class vessels was the 306, a heavy
cargo carrying starship intended to ferry supplies back and
forth between the Pegasus and Milky Way galaxies. They were
built simply but soundly, with an emphasis on speed.
After the horrific battle at the Supergate with the Ori, Earth
had only the Oddessy for defense. With the need for a
much larger space fleet obvious, it was decided to complete five
C-306 class starships as fleet carriers, much as had been done
in World War Two with the Independence-class carriers.
Emergency work was carried out, and all of the new
Aegis-class carriers entered service four months later.
The Aegis-class carrier is much faster in both sublight
and hyperspace than any other Earth ship. This was
intentional-Her job is to get her attack fighters to a combat
zone as quickly as possible, then stay out of harm's way to
support her planes. Without needing to power large weapons
systems, the Aegis has much more powerful shields as
well, letting her absorb a great deal of punishment before
shield failure.
Her standard air wing is comprised of 36 F-302s, 16 EA-302s, 8
SC-309 Pegasus utility craft, and two Tel'tacs. She has room for
over 100 craft for ferrying purposes to allied bases, and can
accomodate Jaffa Deathgliders as easily as Earth fighters. Her
munitions and fuel supplies allow her to maintain continuous
combat operations for over three months, and in her secondary
role as a transport ship, can carry up to 24 months worth of
supplies to friendly ships and planets. As an assault carrier,
she can transport over 3,000 troops into hostile territory,
along with their vehicles and equipment. A more common tactic is
to carry half her standard air wing alongside 900 troops,
allowing her to support ground operations with air strikes.
Owing to their exceptional design and brave crews, only one
Aegis-class carrier has been lost to the Ori, the Hercules. The
Aegis herself suffered heavy damage while acting as a
decoy for the Ori Fleet in the battle to liberate Chulak. Two
more Aegis-class carriers are already under construction,
and the Russians, Chinese and British have all expressed
interest in producing their own versions.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/aegis_forward.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/aegis_side.jpg
Okay, that's it no more ships may be entered at this time b/c we are going to begin polling.
freyr's mother
July 16th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Carriers
DSC-308 Longsword
DSC 308 longsword
Type: Deep space carrier
Technology Base: Earth/Asgard/Goauld
Hull: Titanium/trinium Alloy with Carbon composites
Dimensions:
-Length: 470m
-Width: 200m
-Height: 80m
Crew: 200
Powerplant: 4 Mk. IV Naquadah Generator
Engines:
advanced hyperspace window generator
Four advanced ion-based sublight drives
Anti-gravity wave generators
Support craft:
-48 F-302s
-24 F-307s (see page 14 of this tread for my f-307 design and specs)
Weapons:
-10 double barreled heavy coil guns 1000 rounds each
-44 remote controled light coil guns 1000 rounds each
-40 naquada enhanced nuclear warheads
Defenses:
-Inert Naquadah Plating in certain areas
-Advanced Asgard designed shields
Other tech:
-AFC (adaptable flight computer)
-Asgard sensor tech
-Asgard Beeming tech
-Gou'ald rings
The first of this line of ships rolled off the production line in 2010 when it was decided that there was a need for a ship with a greater fighter capacity that the 304. As the F-307s have verticle takeoff and landing there is a second hanger doar located on top of the hanger bay for the 307s. All of the hanger openings have bulkhead doars but also when in a battle situation a teporary shield is activated over the opening alowing craft to take off whilst people opperate insid the hanger. As there will be multiple craft being lanched and landing on the ship there is a comand point on top of each hanger to monitor the craft alot like an air trafic control center. The longsword was not designed to go in to battle on its own and would only go in to a danger zone acompanied by a battle ship meaning that it has limited offensive capabilities and the main coil guns are only to desencorage a ship from attacking, however the ship does have good defensive capabilities with many point defence coil guns. it was decided that more power should be put in to defence as there is no point in having a fighter carrier when there is no carrier left fo the fighters to go back to.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/JRPR/carrier.jpg[/QUOTE]
DSC-375
‘The Constellation’
Designation: DSC-375
Type: Deep Space Carrier / Command vessel
Hull: Titanium / Trinium alloy
Crew: 5000 including flight crews and pilots (also capable of holding thousands of troops in converted hangers for ground assaults)
Constructed by: Tau’ri / Asgard
Dimensions:
Length: 800m
Width: 310m
Hieght: 150m
Power:
2 custom made Neutrino generators supplied by the Asgard.
Propulsion:
Asgard hyperdrive
2 main Ion engines
6 (3 on each side of the main engines) directional Ion engines
Anti-gravity wave generators
Weapons: Defensive
Rail guns – 46 double barreled 20mm anti-fighter
Coil guns – 10 double barreled 5m anti-ship
Shielding:
Asgard shield
Asgard hanger shields
Asgard internal dampening field
Trinium armor plating on crucial areas of the vessel
Support craft:
1 fighter bay holding 20 fighters.
3 fighter bays holding 30 fighters each.
16 hangers capable of holding a single drop ship in each one.
12 side hangers capable of holding 1 small bomber or cargo ship in each.
8 smaller hangers holding various support craft such as puddle jumpers
Other:
Asgard sensors
Asgard transporters
Asgard holographic technology as part of the communication system
Rings
Inter-galactic communication systems
SCVN-365 Aegis class
~Aegis-class starship~
~Type: Large hyperspace-capable starship
~Designation: SCVN-365
~Users: United States Navy, United States Air Force.
~Builder: Northrop Grumman/Newport News
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
~Naval Classification: Carrier/Assault Ship
~Dimensions:
-Length: 450 meters (990 feet)
-Width: 127 meters (279.4 feet)
-Height: 72 meters (158.4 feet)
-Decks: 14
~Displacement: 86,230 tons (Earth normal gravity)
~Capacity:
-Officers: 39
-Enlisted: 491 (112 for ship operations, 379 for the airwing)
-Troops: 3,000
-Maximum: 4,500
~Powerplant: One Mk. IV Naquada generator
~Propulsion:
-Two Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-3 sublight ion drives
-Four Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-6 sublight ion drives
-Two Asgard/Area 51 hyperspace window generators
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator network
~Performance:
-Maximum Acceleration: 93.3 PSL
-Maximum Hyperspace Velocity: 17,998 lightyears/hour
-Maximum Hyperspace Endurance: 4.5 weeks/top speed
-Hyperspace Generator Recharge Rate: 17 seconds between jumps
~Ship Systems:
-Computer: Asgard Crystalline-based quantum processors;
AEGIS Networking System
-Life Support: Lockheed Martin FPA-93 oxygen/CO2
filtration system
-Sensors: Asgard Sensor Array
-Navigation: Stargate Network Common Coordinate Alignment
Datalink
-Communications: Northrop Grumman SST-42 Subspace
Transceiver Array
~Armament:
-Twelve x 20mm rail gun cannons x 10,000 rounds each
-80+ air/spacecraft
~Defenses:
-Asgard Shields
-Inert naquada armor belt (3.5 inches)
-Reactive armor plating (12.5 inches)
-Cloaking Device
~Units:
SCVN-365 USS Aegis
SCVN-366 USS Helios
SCVN-367 USS Thrace
SCVN-368 USS Icarus
SCVN-369 USS Hercules (destroyed)
SCVN-370 USS Argo
SCVN-371 USS Jason [under construction]
[u]Technical and Historical Notes:
The idea of a spaceborn carrier for F-302s had been considered
since the launch of the first prototype fighter. However, the
Deadalus-class starships offered a battleship, carrier,
and troop ship all rolled into one, and so was the craft of
choice. Alongside the 304-class vessels was the 306, a heavy
cargo carrying starship intended to ferry supplies back and
forth between the Pegasus and Milky Way galaxies. They were
built simply but soundly, with an emphasis on speed.
After the horrific battle at the Supergate with the Ori, Earth
had only the Oddessy for defense. With the need for a
much larger space fleet obvious, it was decided to complete five
C-306 class starships as fleet carriers, much as had been done
in World War Two with the Independence-class carriers.
Emergency work was carried out, and all of the new
Aegis-class carriers entered service four months later.
The Aegis-class carrier is much faster in both sublight
and hyperspace than any other Earth ship. This was
intentional-Her job is to get her attack fighters to a combat
zone as quickly as possible, then stay out of harm's way to
support her planes. Without needing to power large weapons
systems, the Aegis has much more powerful shields as
well, letting her absorb a great deal of punishment before
shield failure.
Her standard air wing is comprised of 36 F-302s, 16 EA-302s, 8
SC-309 Pegasus utility craft, and two Tel'tacs. She has room for
over 100 craft for ferrying purposes to allied bases, and can
accomodate Jaffa Deathgliders as easily as Earth fighters. Her
munitions and fuel supplies allow her to maintain continuous
combat operations for over three months, and in her secondary
role as a transport ship, can carry up to 24 months worth of
supplies to friendly ships and planets. As an assault carrier,
she can transport over 3,000 troops into hostile territory,
along with their vehicles and equipment. A more common tactic is
to carry half her standard air wing alongside 900 troops,
allowing her to support ground operations with air strikes.
Owing to their exceptional design and brave crews, only one
Aegis-class carrier has been lost to the Ori, the Hercules. The
Aegis herself suffered heavy damage while acting as a
decoy for the Ori Fleet in the battle to liberate Chulak. Two
more Aegis-class carriers are already under construction,
and the Russians, Chinese and British have all expressed
interest in producing their own versions.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/aegis_forward.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/aegis_side.jpg
Battlecarrier
-DSBC-401 By Freyr’s Mother
DSBC-401
Price: $ 10 Billion
Hull: Naquadah, Carbon, Trinium, Neutronium alloy
Size: 2x Size of DSC-304 in every way
Sub-light Propulsion: 10 Sub-light engines (Standard DSC sub-light system)
Power: Standard Asgard Power source, 48 Mark III Naquadah Generators provide secondary power
Hyperdrive: Asgard Hyperdrive
Shields: Top of the line Asgard shields (The one's they have on the O'Neill class ships)
Fighter compliment: 64 F-302's, 2 Puddlejumpers (fully loaded with drones)
Crew compliment: 3,500
There are 500 marines on board.
The fighter bays will be two times as wide, two times as long, and two times as tall. There are 16 F-302's on the top deck and 16 F-302's on the lower deck. Both hangars are utilized. The fighter elevator can lift up to four F-302's from the lower deck to the top deck at once. Since the DSBC-401 is 2x as wide, 2 F-302's will be able to take off at the same time from one hangar.
In the event that a conflict must end quickly, all F-302's will make hyperspace jumps to a position determined by the ship commander. If the puddlejumpers on board have been deployed (or if there are any at all) the ship can quickly pick them up or the jumpers can cloak and be retrieved later.
Offensive/defensive weapons: 14 Main Railguns, 24 anti-fighter railguns, 150 Mark VIII's, 10 Mark IX Gatebusters, 4 Wraith ship to ship plasma cannons reverse engineered from the captured hive.
The Mark IX Gatebusters are not only used for vaporizing stargates, but for any other purpose that the commander of the ship deems necessary. The ten Mark XI silos are located right in front of the bridge.
There is a new upgrade on the Mark VIII's that made them shorter so we can accomodate more missiles. There will be a second layer of missiles under the first one. Once the ship has fired all the missiles in it's first layer, it will begin with the second. Since the DSBC-401 is 2x the size of the DSBC-304, it will accomodate two more rows of missile silos (two more of the things I circled in red)
Other goodies: Asgard Long-range sensors, Asgard Long-range communications unit, Multiple Asgard Beaming sensors on the ships hull, multiple internal asgard beaming sensors, Self-destruct, fighter bay shields.
The self-destruct command can only be given by the commander. When this command is given, all fighters and jumpers will be launched and will fly as far away from the impending explosion as possible. The self destruct will overload the asgard generator, all of the naquadah generators, and detonate all remaining nukes at once.
Background: The asgard were nice enough to give us the chemical formula for the alloy that the hull is comprised of, along with enough Neutronium to complete the first ship in the series. They then provided us with locations of known Neutronium deposits so we may mine the stuff ourselves.
When our commanders realized that the current DSC-304's were not cutting it, in terms of shielding, firepower, and fighter support, they drew up the plans for the DSBC-401. It was designed with the purpose of heavy fire support and assult on enemy strongholds, and defense against enemy attacks on off world bases.
freyr's mother
July 16th, 2006, 04:03 PM
DSBC - 311 by Buba uognarf
DSBC - 311
Class name: Cobra
Type: Deep space battle carrier
Technology Base: Earth/Asgard
Hull: Titanium/trinium Alloy
Dimensions:
-Length: 630m
-Width: 230m
-Height: 85m
Crew: 250-350
Powerplant: 7 Mk. V Naquadah Generators
Engines:
-asgard hyper drive
-Four large tauri design ion drives
-Anti-gravity wave generators
-12 emergency thrusters
Support craft:
hanger 1 - 20 F-302A's / F/B-307's
hanger 2 - 20 F-302A's / F/B-307's
Weapons:
- 44 rail guns placed for full fire coverage
- 2 forward 20m barrel coil guns
- 14 smaller 10m anti ship coil guns
- 90 naquada enhanced nuclear warheads forward weapons array has 6 silos capable of launching 12 missiles almost similtanuosly
- 1 rear missile silo
- 1 starboard missile silo
- 1 port missile silo
Defenses:
- 6m thick reacitve armour plating
- Asgard designed shields
- Asgard structual integrety field
Other tech:
-Asgard sensor tech
-Asgard heavy beaming room(16 triangulated beamers capable of processing 100 lifeform patterns)
-Gou'ald rings
-asgard beaming tech
The tauri decided in 2009 that a ship capable of landing anti culling force must be designed for the war effort against the wraith thus the cobra was built to carry the troops and fighters into battle against the wraith. It has a large fighter complement to deal with darts and is itself heavily armed although still no match for an upgraded hiveship.
It also has the largest beaming facilities of any ship on record with a specialised beaming room capable of transporting 100 troops to the ground thanks to it's 16 triangulated beamers capable of setting seperate cordinates.
DSBC-312 Prestige Class Battlecarrier by Davidtourniquet
DSBC-312 Prestige Class Battlecarrier
Dimensions:
Length: 625m
Width: 245m
Height: 115m
Volume: 17.6 million cubic metres
Material:
Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Power:
8 Mark IV Naquadah Generators
Defensive Weaponry:
6 railguns (4 fore, 2 aft)
Offensive Weaponry:
32x Mark VIII Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear missiles (16 silos)
22x Mark IX Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear missiles (11 silos)
3x Wraith Plasma Cannons (2 fore, 1 aft)
Shields:
1x Asgard Shield Generator
Armour:
8.5m Ionised Reinforced Trinium Titanium
Stealth:
Stealth Material
Fighters:
30 F-302As (by MillenniumLance) (hangars 1 and 2)
Hangar 3 has the option of having, more F-302As, Wraith Darts or Jumpers.
Engines:
Asgard Hyperspace generator
6x Ion sublight engines (capable of speeds up to 86% LS)
6x Manoeuvring Thrusters
Other Tech:
Asgard Beaming Tech
Asgard Sensors
ECM
ECCM
Rings
History of the Prestige Class
4 years after the launch of the Daedulus class Carrier, a new Carrier was required.
The result between mainly the Americans and the British was the prestige class.
Using anti-missile defences that were going to be used for the “Star Wars” missile defence system. These weapons were added to all ships after 2007.
With the capturing of the Wraith hive ship in “no mans land”. The first thing to do was to try and incorporate the plasma weapons into our ships offensive weaponry.
At current time, this has proven unsuccessful.
The other main upgrade to the daedulus, is the 3rd hangar which sits on top of the ship (like the Prometheus’s tower, just this time a hangar). At this time, it is undecided whether to fill this with Darts,F-302As or Jumpers or a mixture of the 3.
Okay everyone, two neg votes per person this round. We're only doing battlecarriers here. Go.
My two neg votes go to:
DSBC-311
DSBC-312
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 04:09 PM
I neg the DSBC-401 and the DSBC-312.
NoDot
July 16th, 2006, 04:11 PM
I neg the DSBC-401 and the DSBC-312.Ditto...
[edit] When do we get to the Frigates?
Aroura-Gate
July 16th, 2006, 04:13 PM
It your lose i tried to get it down to your specs but No you just wouldnt have it thats ok ill take my desgins elseware
Davidtourniquet
July 16th, 2006, 04:15 PM
Bc311 -2
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 04:16 PM
It your lose i tried to get it down to your specs but No you just wouldnt have it thats ok ill take my desgins elseware
What? Didn't you create the 311?
Milleniumlance
July 16th, 2006, 04:29 PM
I like the Prestige better.....++++positive for the prestige
Aroura-Gate
July 16th, 2006, 04:59 PM
~Aegis-class starship~
~Type: Large hyperspace-capable starship
~Designation: SCVN-365
~Users: United States Navy, United States Air Force.
~Builder: Northrop Grumman/Newport News
~Technology Base: Tau'ri/Asgard
~Naval Classification: Carrier/Assault Ship
~Dimensions:
-Length: 450 meters (990 feet)
-Width: 127 meters (279.4 feet)
-Height: 72 meters (158.4 feet)
-Decks: 14
~Displacement: 86,230 tons (Earth normal gravity)
~Capacity:
-Officers: 39
-Enlisted: 491 (112 for ship operations, 379 for the airwing)
-Troops: 3,000
-Maximum: 4,500
~Powerplant: One Mk. IV Naquada generator
~Propulsion:
-Two Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-3 sublight ion drives
-Four Jet Propulsion Laboratory IP-6 sublight ion drives
-Two Asgard/Area 51 hyperspace window generators
-Anti-Gravity Wave Generator network
~Performance:
-Maximum Acceleration: 93.3 PSL
-Maximum Hyperspace Velocity: 17,998 lightyears/hour
-Maximum Hyperspace Endurance: 4.5 weeks/top speed
-Hyperspace Generator Recharge Rate: 17 seconds between jumps
~Ship Systems:
-Computer: Asgard Crystalline-based quantum processors;
AEGIS Networking System
-Life Support: Lockheed Martin FPA-93 oxygen/CO2
filtration system
-Sensors: Asgard Sensor Array
-Navigation: Stargate Network Common Coordinate Alignment
Datalink
-Communications: Northrop Grumman SST-42 Subspace
Transceiver Array
~Armament:
-Twelve x 20mm rail gun cannons x 10,000 rounds each
-80+ air/spacecraft
~Defenses:
-Asgard Shields
-Inert naquada armor belt (3.5 inches)
-Reactive armor plating (12.5 inches)
-Cloaking Device
~Units:
SCVN-365 USS Aegis
SCVN-366 USS Helios
SCVN-367 USS Thrace
SCVN-368 USS Icarus
SCVN-369 USS Hercules (destroyed)
SCVN-370 USS Argo
SCVN-371 USS Jason [under construction]
[u]Technical and Historical Notes:
The idea of a spaceborn carrier for F-302s had been considered
since the launch of the first prototype fighter. However, the
Deadalus-class starships offered a battleship, carrier,
and troop ship all rolled into one, and so was the craft of
choice. Alongside the 304-class vessels was the 306, a heavy
cargo carrying starship intended to ferry supplies back and
forth between the Pegasus and Milky Way galaxies. They were
built simply but soundly, with an emphasis on speed.
After the horrific battle at the Supergate with the Ori, Earth
had only the Oddessy for defense. With the need for a
much larger space fleet obvious, it was decided to complete five
C-306 class starships as fleet carriers, much as had been done
in World War Two with the Independence-class carriers.
Emergency work was carried out, and all of the new
Aegis-class carriers entered service four months later.
The Aegis-class carrier is much faster in both sublight
and hyperspace than any other Earth ship. This was
intentional-Her job is to get her attack fighters to a combat
zone as quickly as possible, then stay out of harm's way to
support her planes. Without needing to power large weapons
systems, the Aegis has much more powerful shields as
well, letting her absorb a great deal of punishment before
shield failure.
Her standard air wing is comprised of 36 F-302s, 16 EA-302s, 8
SC-309 Pegasus utility craft, and two Tel'tacs. She has room for
over 100 craft for ferrying purposes to allied bases, and can
accomodate Jaffa Deathgliders as easily as Earth fighters. Her
munitions and fuel supplies allow her to maintain continuous
combat operations for over three months, and in her secondary
role as a transport ship, can carry up to 24 months worth of
supplies to friendly ships and planets. As an assault carrier,
she can transport over 3,000 troops into hostile territory,
along with their vehicles and equipment. A more common tactic is
to carry half her standard air wing alongside 900 troops,
allowing her to support ground operations with air strikes.
Owing to their exceptional design and brave crews, only one
Aegis-class carrier has been lost to the Ori, the Hercules. The
Aegis herself suffered heavy damage while acting as a
decoy for the Ori Fleet in the battle to liberate Chulak. Two
more Aegis-class carriers are already under construction,
and the Russians, Chinese and British have all expressed
interest in producing their own versions.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/aegis_forward.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/AJTalon/aegis_side.jpg
Okay, that's it no more ships may be entered at this time b/c we are going to begin polling.[/QUOTE]
Are You freking kiding me you pick that in stead of mine, mine is more belive able Than that Gaint thing
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 05:31 PM
Okay, that's it no more ships may be entered at this time b/c we are going to begin polling.
Are You freking kiding me you pick that in stead of mine, mine is more belive able Than that Gaint thing[/QUOTE]
Look, you lost. Get over it!
Aroura-Gate
July 16th, 2006, 05:33 PM
No he wouldnt even post mine
Aroura-Gate
July 16th, 2006, 05:34 PM
No Offense or any thing
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 05:35 PM
That sucks.
Aroura-Gate
July 16th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Here are the Specs I had And He hand told me to drop some of the weapons
Originally Posted by Aroura-Gate
Designation- Deep Space Supper Carrier
Role- Carrying a small fleet of F302s In to Battle for tactical strikes and swarming and occupying the enemy for the larger ships to get an advantage
Measurements
Length 5,000 ft
Width 1,500 ft
Height 721.6 ft
Decks 64
Armaments
84 vertical lunch tubes
24 large rail gun turrets
2 fighter bays 50 F302s
Hull
A new Trunim Titanium Active battle armor system
Polarizing the Hull Armor when an in coming Plasma bolt is detected: Fun Fact an experiment has proven this can be done in real life
Sub light
Larger versions of the Sub light drives on the Daedalus
Hyper Drive
Standard Asgard Hyper drive from an O’Neill class war ship
Shielding
Advanced Asgard shields from the O’Neill Class Warship
Power
Using 25 Mark IV naquadah Generators for the main weapons systems and 30 for the rest of the ship
55 total. Due to the new Asgard Hyper Drive and Shields, an adequate power source was needed so a small Asgard fusion core was added to power the systems.
that was the final
here was the origanal
Originally Posted by Aroura-Gate
Length 5,000 ft
Width 1,500 ft
Height 721.6 ft
Decks 64
Armaments
84 vertical lunch tubes
24 large rail gun turrets
64 small rail gun turrets
2 large lateral Coil Guns running the length of the ship
2 fighter bays 50 F302s
Hull
A new Trunim Titanium Active battle armor system
Polarizing the Hull Armor when an in coming Plasma bolt is detected: Fun Fact an experiment has proven this can be done in real life
Sub light
In response to the Ori's Incursion in to our galaxy the Asgard are now Equipping all current and future Earth ships with O’Neill class warships
Hyper Drive
Standard Asgard Hyper drive from an O’Neill class war ship
Shielding
Advanced Asgard shields from the O’Neill Class Warship
Power
Using 25 Mark IV naquadah Generators for the main weapons systems and 30 for the rest of the ship
55 total. Due to the new Asgard Drives and Shields, an adequate power source was needed so a small Asgard fusion core was added to power the systems.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 05:49 PM
... Fanwank! God dude, you went and made a fanwank! THat's why he didn't accept it! My god man, 55 reactors?! Are you stoned?!
DaCk
July 16th, 2006, 05:53 PM
I neg the 311 x2.
cooky
July 16th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Neg the 312.
FM, when do you plan to start the carrier voting?
Aroura-Gate
July 16th, 2006, 05:55 PM
I tryed not to god I had like 5 or 6 but i thought it was under powered
DaCk
July 16th, 2006, 05:56 PM
... Fanwank! God dude, you went and made a fanwank! THat's why he didn't accept it! My god man, 55 reactors?! Are you stoned?!
Yeah i agree. 55 naquada reactors is ridiculous. An Earth (asgard helped) fusion reactor or 2 could power the ship on its own. With maybe 10 of your naquada reactors placed around the ship for subsystems then that would make the powersystems more beleivable. But yeah it needs work.
Andrew Joshua Talon
July 16th, 2006, 05:58 PM
So vote! Let's go!
aAnubiSs
July 16th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Neg to DSBC-401 and the DSBC-312.
immhotep
July 17th, 2006, 02:23 AM
neg the DSBC-401 and the DSBC-311
freyr's mother
July 17th, 2006, 09:27 AM
I will close the Battlecarrier round 1 elimination poll in 3hrs and 40 min.
Buba uognarf
July 17th, 2006, 09:39 AM
I neg the DSBC-312 -2
rosstaylor
July 17th, 2006, 11:14 AM
The Raptor Class
Designed with the rising threat of lucian alliance, earth and the tokra creating a fast and stealthy ship to neutralise the threat of the lucian allaince. the purpose of this ship is to inesert SG teams onto goa uld motherships and alike.
They are the size of 3 tel taks in length.
Size:
Raptor size – 90m x 40m x 30m
Engines:
a reverse engineered sublight engines, including a stealth mode setting
a reversed engineered hyperdrive engine to be shrunk to fit the smaller ship
Power:
4 mark II Naquadah generators
Shields:
Asguard Shields
Weapons:
Primary weapons are two forward rail guns, two VLS nuke launcers for front and aft, and one VL launcher on each side of the raptor
Secondary systems:
Asgard transport beams deployment)
Asgard scanners
Asgard long range comm. system
Tel tak cloaking device
The main infiltration system of the raptor are 6 naquhada tipped clamps which attach onto the targeted ship and two drills cut through into the ship opneing up to allow Sfs into the ship.
This ship would be especially useful for targeting wraith hive ships, even ori ships where conventional weaponary has been shown a waste of money and resources. Many of these used on a single ship would allow stargate to take a targeted ship very quickly.
comments plz, my first design
freyr's mother
July 17th, 2006, 12:53 PM
The Raptor Class
Designed with the rising threat of lucian alliance, earth and the tokra creating a fast and stealthy ship to neutralise the threat of the lucian allaince. the purpose of this ship is to inesert SG teams onto goa uld motherships and alike.
They are the size of 3 tel taks in length.
Size:
Raptor size – 90m x 40m x 30m
Engines:
a reverse engineered sublight engines, including a stealth mode setting
a reversed engineered hyperdrive engine to be shrunk to fit the smaller ship
Power:
4 mark II Naquadah generators
Shields:
Asguard Shields
Weapons:
Primary weapons are two forward rail guns, two VLS nuke launcers for front and aft, and one VL launcher on each side of the raptor
Secondary systems:
Asgard transport beams deployment)
Asgard scanners
Asgard long range comm. system
Tel tak cloaking device
The main infiltration system of the raptor are 6 naquhada tipped clamps which attach onto the targeted ship and two drills cut through into the ship opneing up to allow Sfs into the ship.
This ship would be especially useful for targeting wraith hive ships, even ori ships where conventional weaponary has been shown a waste of money and resources. Many of these used on a single ship would allow stargate to take a targeted ship very quickly.
comments plz, my first design
This is not the thread for posting ship designs, go to the Original Starship Design Thread unless you want to vote on a ship here.
freyr's mother
July 17th, 2006, 01:06 PM
There are not enough voters to make a decision yet, so I am extending the length of this poll another day.
immhotep
July 18th, 2006, 01:28 AM
This is the first time in its history that the fleet thread has been off the first page: shocking :
Anyways, I like all the designs here...so it is hard to choose.
freyr's mother
July 18th, 2006, 04:56 AM
This is the first time in its history that the fleet thread has been off the first page
What do you mean?
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