Lost City, Part 2 (722)

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<FONT SIZE=4 COLOR="#0066BF"><B>LOST CITY, PART 2</B></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 722</FONT>
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Anubis begins a systematic assault on Earth, and the planet's only hope of salvation depends on whether SG-1 can find the Ancients' mythical Lost City. (Part 2 of 2)

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[jenniferhailey]

Oh wow I loved the ending to this ep.

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The look on Sam's face when she touches the ice and sees Jack frozen, awww! :D Angst-o-rama!

[aAnubiSs]

Far from being the best episode ever :)

[Bacardi]

Far from being the best episode ever :)

i agree but it was a nice way to end the season

[Anubis]

Well they managed to defeat Anubis (*sigh*) for time time being. Apparently he returns for a episode in season eight as far as spoilers go! Great effects of the Ancients and hopefully we'll see more Ancient weapons and resources in season eight and Atlantis

[xathras]

Oh wow I loved the ending to this ep.
can't think how this would spoil anyone, but just in case... [spoiler space followed by snarky response to end of LC pt2]
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For me, the ending did not work AT ALL. Yes, it was supposed to be an angst fest, but I was LMAO, because all I could think was "Hey, they've solved the Jack-lite problem... just get a lifelike wax replica, encase in lucite, put it on a dolly and roll throught scenes as needed." Jack appears whenever they want him and RDA doesn't even have to show up.

I'm pretty sure that's not what they were going for. Aside from that, I definitely rank LC 1&2 among the better eps of the season.

[Bacardi]

can't think how this would spoil anyone, but just in case... [spoiler space followed by snarky response to end of LC pt2]
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For me, the ending did not work AT ALL. Yes, it was supposed to be an angst fest, but I was LMAO, because all I could think was "Hey, they've solved the Jack-lite problem... just get a lifelike wax replica, encase in lucite, put it on a dolly and roll throught scenes as needed." Jack appears whenever they want him and RDA doesn't even have to show up.

I'm pretty sure that's not what they were going for. Aside from that, I definitely rank LC 1&2 among the better eps of the season.

you just gave me the BEST idea..!!

an SG-1 exibit in Madam Toussauds (sp?) in London :D waxwork models of the team hehe

[xathras]

I was also thinking that should fetch quite a lot at a props auction.

[Anubis]

I think the chair that O'Neill sat in would raise a few eyebrows

[omnian]

To be honest this seemed very rushed to me. I mean, they go to the fire planet, get the power source, come back, go to the outpost and save the Earth. All in 41 minutes. Had it been spread out over the two episodes I think this would have worked really well.

[Anubis]

I think it would have worked a lot better over the two episodes. I think part one could have ended with them getting the power source

[SGSlugger]

The first episode kinda seemed like a waste to me. I mean, Jack sat filling in a crossword puzzle for the first five minutes in his truck! I thought that we would see more of the battle taking place over head. It ended too soon IMHO.

I agree though, that it was one of the better episodes.

[Crazedwraith]

My feelings form this ep can be sumed up in one quote:

"So the lost city..is still lost?" -Jack 701 "Fallen"

You have big cool episode entitled "The Lost City" And the lost city isn't in it?!?!?

I also think an ending wouldn't have been to much to ask for not this just idea that'll "we'll just freeze Jack and then fade to Black"

BTW SGSlugger: if you want to talk about Pt1 well there is a Part 1 thread you know? (Watches my reputation thingie sink even lower)

[SGSlugger]

BTW SGSlugger: if you want to talk about Pt1 well there is a Part 1 thread you know? (Watches my reputation thingie sink even lower)

Arg! I can't take more than one away! :p Just kiddin'. :D

Yeah I know, I'm just too lazy to go and post in it. And since it was beginning to go onto it fit better over two eps, I thought why not.

[bcmilco]

To be honest this seemed very rushed to me. I mean, they go to the fire planet, get the power source, come back, go to the outpost and save the Earth. All in 41 minutes. Had it been spread out over the two episodes I think this would have worked really well.

I agree the whole 2 parter seemed rushed to me. But if you consider that they originally intended it to be a movie (approx 120 minutes) they had to trim it down to make it fit into the 88 that they have with 2 episodes. So while I wish it hadn't been so rushed I can sort of understand why it was. I'm hoping there are some "missing" scenes on the DVD since they are going to be making the 2 episodes one on the DVD. (You know just like they did with CotG) I can hope anyway ;)

[KorbenDirewolf]

erm.. "Children of the Gods" orignially aired as a single episode.

There were some good parts and bad parts in this episode, but mostly it was good.. Except the ending.. Well it wasn't really an ending. It seems like they ran out of time and said okay, this is the end. See ya later. Not even a to be continued.

[bcmilco]

erm.. "Children of the Gods" orignially aired as a single episode.

Good point, the first time I was CotG was on Scifi and it was done in two parts.

However that doesn't change the fact that the playtime for CotG, on my DVD, is almost 97 minutes which is 8-9 minutes over the standard 88-89 minutes for 2 episodes. And that's the kind of thing I'm hoping they'll do with The Lost City since they are going to be making it one episode on the DVD.


There were some good parts and bad parts in this episode, but mostly it was good.. Except the ending.. Well it wasn't really an ending. It seems like they ran out of time and said okay, this is the end. See ya later. Not even a to be continued.

I always took that as come back and watch next week too! :p Of course once you've watched a few times then you're more likely to come back next week too. ;)

[SGSlugger]

I would think that a three-parter would have been better. The time of those three eps would equal (give or take) the rough time of a movie version. I'd like to get a copy of the movie script to see where they differ.

[Anubis]

My guess is that they don't differ much. They beat Anubis and then find the Lost City in Antartica and it flies away!

[Anthro Girl]

However that doesn't change the fact that the playtime for CotG, on my DVD, is almost 97 minutes which is 8-9 minutes over the standard 88-89 minutes for 2 episodes. And that's the kind of thing I'm hoping they'll do with The Lost City since they are going to be making it one episode on the DVD.

They are? Where did you hear that? CotG is a "special" episode in that it is the pilot. All the other two-parters on all the (R1) DVDs are intact as individual episodes, not run together as a single episode.

[Madeleine]

There's nothing official to suggest that there's any likelihood of LC having missing scenes replaced for the DVD. The cut scenes from Fallen and Space Race (that SciFi's website showed) never turned up on the DVDs.

Still, that doesn't stop a lot of people from *hoping* that LC is the first to break the pattern. I'd love it if there were extra scenes on the LC DVD.

[Anubis]

Generally, when a show comes out on DVD for example Stargate releases about two or even three episodes on one DVD which they like to call volumes. In nearly all cases, the deleted scenes never really appear on these DVD's. Normally they appear on the boxset. It has been the same with Angel, Buffy and 24. For some reason they like to do it all on a bonus DVD [probably to get more attention to that set]

[bcmilco]

They are? Where did you hear that? CotG is a "special" episode in that it is the pilot. All the other two-parters on all the (R1) DVDs are intact as individual episodes, not run together as a single episode.

I heard it on this thread: Region 2 Season 7 DVD info

Relevant quote:


Stargate SG-1 Volume 37 - 28th June 2004

(episodes: "Lost City" - both parts apparently combined into one
feature-length episode).
Special features:
- Preview of Stargate Atlantis
- SG-1 Directors Series: Lost City with Martin Wood
- Journey inside Lost City - The storyboard progress
- Bra`tac vs Ronan: Designing the fight
- Stargate Magic: Inside the lab
- "Lost City" commentary by director Martin Wood
- Easter Egg: Richard Dean Anderson - My life as a mime
- Season 7 Stills Gallery

[Anthro Girl]

I have all six boxsets of Stargate SG-1 (R1) and although I haven't made it through every second of special features in S6, I don't remember seeing any deleted scenes other than the ones posted on SciFi. Is this stuff only on R2?

[Anubis]

I didn't say there was, I said the normally is. I have all six boxsets but no special edition DVDs. There should be though

[Anthro Girl]

I can see how TLC can run together as one episode quite seamlessly. The original broadcast of Fallen/Homecoming on SciFi was a two-hour broadcast with the credits for both shows at the beginning.

I would prefer to have the episodes intact as broadcast rather than special "director's cuts" with additional scenes inserted. Not that I don't want the extra scenes, but as a special feature.

[bcmilco]

I would prefer to have the episodes intact as broadcast rather than special "director's cuts" with additional scenes inserted. Not that I don't want the extra scenes, but as a special feature.

If they do have "missing" scenes I'd rather they were in the episode because that's how the director intended for the show to be seen.

That's the same reason I like widescreen vs. letterbox. The director filmed the show in widescreen that's what his/her vision of the movie/episode was and that's what I'd like to see it: the director's vision, what s/he intended for me to see. (It's the artist/musician in me ;))

Part of the reason I'm hoping they have "missing" scenes is beacuse this was supposed to be a movie and this is the first time since CotG that they've combine two episodes.

[SGSlugger]

[QUOTE=bcmilcoThat's the same reason I like widescreen vs. letterbox. The director filmed the show in widescreen that's what his/her vision of the movie/episode was and that's what I'd like to see it: the director's vision, what s/he intended for me to see. (It's the artist/musician in me ;))
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Not to mention that you see more of what's going on with widescreen.

[CkiCki]

One of my favorite parts of this ep can be said in two words: KINSEY FIRED. I'm liking this new president, he's got some class. =)

[Anubis]

I agree. Hayes is execellent as the prez

[AgentX]

Indeed. Hayes rocks, I loved the smackdown of Kinsey. Long, LONG overdue.

[Anubis]

Although Kinsey is gone from there, I think we'll miss his evilness! :D

[Elwe Singollo]

Well, maybe Kinsey is with the NID now, just maybe... :rolleyes:

[Anubis]

I think Kinsey will go back to his friends at the NID or maybe they'll kill him (again) because he's not in the White House

[omnian]

I reckon they'll kill him once they find out that Woolsey (?) has that disc with all those names on it and maybe takes action with it.

[CkiCki]

I dunno. It seems to me that for being such a slimeball, death is too good for Kinsey.

[Anubis]

I think the President will go after him for what he has done. But then again the public will want to know why he's gone or they'll probably just say he wanted to resign or retire!

[sarge]

Should be pretty easy to make him 'disapear'... just knock him off and then tell every one he was touring one of the sites that happened to be 'hit by meteors' aka Anubis, the body was consumed in the blast....so sad...we'll miss him... etc., etc.

[Anubis]

lol Yeah, a good way to exit him and send him to another planet

[AgentX]

Can't we let Jack just accidentally shoot him? I'm sure Jack wouldn't mind the opportunity. It's not like it would be anyone's fault - it would be an accident.

[Anubis]

lol Remembering back to Smoke and Mirrors. Ahhh, the memories! ;)

[AgentX]

lol Remembering back to Smoke and Mirrors. Ahhh, the memories! ;)

One of the few Kinsey episodes I enjoy :)

I recently rewatched TLC in preperation for Season 8, it's still a great episode and in my Top 5 episodes in the entire run.

[Selmak]

One of my favorite finale episodes.

[Anubis]

Of course AgentX. This episode was great. Byebye Kinsey (for now)

[Selmak]

Glowy jellyfish save the day...

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Jellyfish may be a theme in ancient technology... an ancient probe in Rising also looks like a jellyfish... from what I have seen from previs for Rising the puddle jumper's missiles look like the glowy jellyfish in Lost City.

[Selmak]

Those control things on the chairs are very cool.

[Anubis]

The little jelly sort of pad things controlled by the plam of your hand. Grabbing technology!

[SeaBee]

I thought that this was a fantastic ep.

I would have liked to see more of the battle, though.

[Replicarter]

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One word, 'best episode ever', this was ultimately the number one Stargate episode, iv watched it more than 10 times and I never get bored, great effects, great story, and i loved that scene where Anubis appears in the oval office and the president ask later, "to much?" Though i agree with SeaBee, a bigger battle would have been even better.

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[greytop]

One of my favorite parts of this ep can be said in two words: KINSEY FIRED.
Mine, too. I also like the banter between him and Dr. Weir. Instead of thinking that he, Kinsey, got her the job, she made her own decisions notcaring whether Kinsey like it or not.

[Anubis]

Hayes's humour was certainly a good humour for the episode and I think for a change, it actually needed it.

[David85]

Instead of thinking that he, Kinsey, got her the job, she made her own decisions notcaring whether Kinsey like it or not.


It's too bad that Weir doesn't do that in Atlantis.

[Anubis]

It's too bad that Weir doesn't do that in Atlantis.



Doesn't she? I've only seen the first introduction episodes as the rest, I simply can't be bothered to download them. Weir really did 'throw out' Kinsey as you might put it and he certainly didn't like it. The telephone call with Hayes was so funny when Weir thought the President was shouting at her. Poor girl.

[Baal_Lord]

One part i loved in thsi episode was when daniel was talkign to jack about the crossowrd, and cater looks, and it says godly body or something, and jack wrote Uma Therman! lol :D

[Lord Zedd]

WHen Kinsey was shot by a fake O'Neill that was a good episode :)

[Lord Zedd]

yes i have it on dvd TCOTG is 1 episode and the lost city is 2 episodes but on dvd they appear as 1

[lionel_pendergast_rocks]

this episode is now my favorite episode of all time, thanmks to that scene near the end of the battle over the ice. when the f-302's just rip right through the gould fighter fleet, .... well, it was pretty cool.

[SnakeHead]

this episode is now my favorite episode of all time, thanmks to that scene near the end of the battle over the ice. when the f-302's just rip right through the gould fighter fleet, .... well, it was pretty cool.

Yea the F-302 battle was awesome. I had no idea the F-302 had gone into mass production. I suppose if you had the ability to manufacture that sort of fighter you just wouldn't bother making conventional aircraft like f16s etc anymore. Also you would move your manufacturing from water based warships to X-303 styled vessels instead, especially since they lost a few.

Referring to the part where the Prometheus was hovering over and protecting SC1's TEL'TAK ship. The Prometheus shields were run down to zero and Anubis's mother ship came into range and began to hammer them. Was the Prometheus under constant fire as it headed into orbit on a collision course with Anubis's mother ship?

[DownFallAngel]

It was, but not all the shots hit them. Also, the shields regenerate, thats why they could take so many hits. But it was taking longer and longer for them to do that, because of the lack of power.

[Erik Pasternak]

WHen Kinsey was shot by a fake O'Neill that was a good episode :)That episode was called "Smoke and Mirrors." It has its own thread here (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=261).

[DownFallAngel]

One part i loved in thsi episode was when daniel was talkign to jack about the crossowrd, and cater looks, and it says godly body or something, and jack wrote Uma Therman! lol :D

Carter reads the clue as "celestial body".

[Erik Pasternak]

Carter reads the clue as "celestial body".
You think she was describing herself?

[DownFallAngel]

Both her and Uma Therman are celestial bodies IMO.

[Daniel's_twin]

This episode was absolutely great! This mini-series in season 7 thro 8 (Inauguration, Lost City 1;2, New Order 1;2) Is their best work ever. It can not get much better than this. If only they would bring back Apophis one more time... I know, not gonna happen. He's finally been killed off once and for all.

But anyway, this one had some of their best funny moments. From Uma Thurman's heavenly body to the President telling Kinsey to shut up. *yes, I laughed at that*. This has also had one of their greatest fights ever. Scratch that: it has had the greatest fight they've had yet. They're gonna have to work hard to beat that final fight.

My favorite episode, I loved this. :cool:

[caes4]

The Lost City was the best episode of any TV show I have ever seen in my LIFE!!!!
IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!


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I found it really funny when the president says: "go to Defcon 1 and alert the governments of russia, china, great britain, france, and CANADA"


hahahahaha Canada.............hahaha that was really funny..........like we are going to help save the world with our 2 defunct submarines and broken down helicopters.

[Daniel's_twin]

Maybe he thought anything could help? I dunno. :cool:

[david2708]

The ancient weapon seemed nothing more than glowing, yellow jellyfish, which kinda looked stupid. The SFX guys must look in horror when they watch it back in the commentary.
Alot of wasted stuff in the two parter. it needed more arch stuff from Anubis. Swanning around the decks of his mothership threatening destruction upon everyone. The President playing it for laughs undermined the supposed seriousness of it all.
The final SFX was good overall, though it sometimes looks a bit cartoony.

[Anubis]

The ancient weapon seemed nothing more than glowing, yellow jellyfish, which kinda looked stupid. The SFX guys must look in horror when they watch it back in the commentary.
Alot of wasted stuff in the two parter. it needed more arch stuff from Anubis. Swanning around the decks of his mothership threatening destruction upon everyone. The President playing it for laughs undermined the supposed seriousness of it all.
The final SFX was good overall, though it sometimes looks a bit cartoony.



I think the weapon was cool, wheatheror not it was meant to look like jellyfish. :)

Perhaps Anubis could have made a bigger threat, yes, but if Earth didn't react when they did ... they'd be gonners. Anubis had already started moving his fleet onto Earth, so we would have eiether been slughtered or enslaved. ;)

President Hayes did good, but I doubt we'll see something like this in future episodes, example being his attitude. We certainly didn't see it in Inaugruation.

[Lord Zedd]

Perhaps Anubis could have made a bigger threat, yes, but if Earth didn't react when they did ... they'd be gonners.
yeah I like Anubis so I was kinda hoping that he played a bigger part in this but it liked the episode very well and it didn't bodered me at all when the Ancient drones looked a bit cartoony :D

[david2708]

yeah I like Anubis so I was kinda hoping that he played a bigger part in this but it liked the episode very well and it didn't bodered me at all when the Ancient drones looked a bit cartoony :D

But what possessed them to make them look like yellow jellyfish?! Freeze frame it and they're definately Jellyfish!!!

[Daniel's_twin]

Agreed, they do look like alien jellyfish (look in Atlantis' "Rising" and you can see one up close), but for all we know, the Ancients might have gotten the design idea from another planet they visited or something. And besides, I think the jelly-fish kinda went with the jelly-pad O'neill used to control the weapon. :cool:

[Lexx]

I liked that the Ancient weapons were the Glowing Jellyfish of Doom. TPTB could've easily gone with some cliche phaser/blaster/pulse cannon that would fire some beam at Anubis, but instead they went with something that was completely unexpected and original. Kudos to the SG-1 team :)

[Anubis]

Although the drone weapons do look like jellyfish, I don't think they're meant to look like them, it's just how it turned out.


Spoilers, Rising Pt 1 - Pt 2.
Especially in Atlantis when we see the single drone in close-up ... it certainly looks like a jellyfish. However when fired from the puddle-jumper, it looks nothing like one there.


I think it all may depend on the angle that you're viewing the drone from. Some ways it looks like a jellyfish, others it doesn't. ;)

[Daniel's_twin]

This is true. Thinking about it, it looks more like a squid deactivated. Lol. ( I know I missed the point of the above post, but I like having fun) :cool:

[Anubis]

This is true. Thinking about it, it looks more like a squid deactivated. Lol. ( I know I missed the point of the above post, but I like having fun) :cool:



True. I wonder what they really were meant to look like though? Perhaps they weren't intending to be like jellyfish, but just a sort of energy cell? Who knows ... but it is an interesting question. ;)

[Lord Zedd]

True. I wonder what they really were meant to look like though? Perhaps they weren't intending to be like jellyfish, but just a sort of energy cell? Who knows ... but it is an interesting question. ;)
Perhaps I think we'll never know for sure :D

[lionel_pendergast_rocks]

all i have to say about this ep is one word: awesome. i loved this show more than any other one. :D :D :D

[Anubis]

Perhaps I think we'll never know for sure :D


Probably not, but we can always bicker on about it. :P





all i have to say about this ep is one word: awesome. i loved this show more than any other one. :D :D :D


Too right. Quality scens, decent O'Neill and good storyline.

[david2708]

I wonder what they say on the directors commentary about the Ancient yellow squid killers(yes, I've renamed them). I think if they hadn't made them so yellowish, they wouldn't have come across as so cartoony. Perhaps just a bright white would have been better. I haven't seen Atlantis(not on in Australia as yet) so I don't know whether there is more about the Ancient yellow squid killers.

[Anubis]

I haven't got the DVDs yet, because they're not yet out in the UK. :(


Anyway, I have seen Atlantis...


Spoilers, Rising Pt 1 - Rising Pt 2
The jellyish are actually more white in Atlantis than in the S& finale of SG1, so you've got that. And when they're fired in Atlantis, they don't look like dellyfish. I think it's mainly because they were all fired at once, causing the overall effect to look like jellyfish. ;)

[Jane]

:D I loved this ep. :D

[Major Fischer]

So I finally got a DVD player, and this would be what I bought to test it. ;)

I missed almost all of season seven when it aired for various reasons, and I am sitting here listening to the commentaries having watched the episode full though.

A) Jessica Steen as Dr. Elizabeth Weir. So I've been a big supporter/fan of Dr. Weir as Torri Higginson and one of the handicaps I had in the Battle of the Weirs was the fact that I hadn't seen Steen's portrayal.

So now i have. I have to say right now that I still think that I prefer Higginson. Jessica Steen is a fine actress and I have enjoyed her in other roles, but to me this one didn't seem to fit. She lacks any sense of strength or self confidence. I can't convince myself that this woman is a heavily hitting diplomat.

Seperate from the actress issues I really question the wordrobe choices. Just wasn't digging the fridge skirt or the sweetshirt in the SGC. It just hightened my sense that the character in this portrayal would not have been credible in the Atlantis role.

B) The rest of the episode. It was very well paced, and I enjoyed the feeling as whole. I didn't find myself fast forwarding through anything. The ending seemed rushed, as in fact did the destruction of the carrier battle group.

C) The air force chief of staff managed his lines well. Better than a lot of "as himself" appearances from other figures.

[Anubis The Great]

i loved this ep the ending was the best and the war was great :)

[Oma Desala]

I finally got around to watching this episode last night. Wow what an ending. I was so happy I could cry. :) Poor poor Anubis! :)

[animoid]

I sort of missed the debate, so I'm just gona add my thoughts here. :)


She lacks any sense of strength or self confidence. I can't convince myself that this woman is a heavily hitting diplomat.

Seperate from the actress issues I really question the wordrobe choices.

Funny, I felt it went hand in hand. Jessica Steen's portray of Weir felt more like the woman is an ambitiuos journalist who doesn't quite know yet how to handle the "big" situations, she didn't feel like a seasoned diplomat. And the wardrobe only emphasized this for me.

[Sha're]

Okay this ep was just shown on T4, so thought I'd come and air my views.
An exciting episode - I think I enjoyed it alot more the first time though.
Hammond commanding the Prometheus, a real hero. The President - sorry just cant take to him at all, I think he's totally smarmy. SG1 saved the day again - nuff said. Excellent fight scenes though.

[couchpotatergater]

I really liked the Ancient Weapon: the little squid things, they were a great idea. I'm only up to here as waiting for S8 to come out on DVD (not long now!!!), but I hope we get to learn a bit more about what they were/how they work.
I loved the battle scenes over Antarctica - reminded me of a cooler version of Empire Strikes Back: I just think ships against snow look great & I would have loved to see it on a big screen.
There was a touch of ESB in Jack's *suspension* as well.
Despite some of the negatives I've heard about S8 (I've tried to stay off the S8 threads cos I can't resist spoilers!), this left me wanting more - I'm looking forward to S8.

[lordaraq]

anyone else notice at the very end when Sam, Daniel, and Teal'c are talking after Jack freezes himself, that the Atlantis theme starts playing in the back ground?

[Seshat]

But what possessed them to make them look like yellow jellyfish?! Freeze frame it and they're definately Jellyfish!!!
I love how so many posters have described the energy weapon as &quot;glowy jellyfish&quot;! To me, they always looked like Supercharged Pacmen ;), but my warped impression takes nothing away from the fact that this (parts 1 and 2 combined) remains my favorite episode ever. :D

[Qtyled]

This is my favourite episode of all time. (Well with part 1. I only saw it on DVD) Just full of great moments near the end.

[SmartFox]

erm.. "Children of the Gods" orignially aired as a single episode.

There were some good parts and bad parts in this episode, but mostly it was good.. Except the ending.. Well it wasn't really an ending. It seems like they ran out of time and said okay, this is the end. See ya later. Not even a to be continued.
Yea i felt that too. The battle scene was only in the last 5 mins even though that was cool. We only got to see about 30 secs of the f-302s taking it to the goa'uld fleet.

I just loved Jack's facial expressions though. He doesn't even need to say words to do good acting.

[SmartFox]

Whats wrong with Jelly Fish people. Maybe millions of years ago when the Ancients were at the height of their power there was a type of jelly fish that were really powerful beings that died out and so the Ancients made weapons that reflected that.

[NORCALJJ]

I LOVED this episode!!!

[tony]

I was just watching the lost city on my DVD season 7 box and just realized something. When Anubis and his 30 motherships enter earths orbit and start prepairing to take out Earth. why did he do it so oddly.. in the past 8 seasons we have seen how the Goa'uld take out planets that dont want to submit to there rule.. they just start with 1 city at a time and absolutly destroy the whole world.

Now in the lost city episode Anubis seems to take his time.. first he takes out a buncha battlecruisers in the ocean than he takes out the communications of the planet.. i mean why would that be any consern to him? its never Goa'uld's care for what the planet in question has they just send everything they got at once.

One might say he was carefull about what he did because he wasnt sure if Earth had the weapons of the Acients but that wouldnt make sense either because thats why Anubis sent 3 ships to scout Earth first and see if there was any danger for the other Motherships.

any thoughts on this?

[Teal'c]

Dramatic tension :P

He may also have been hoping to capture the Ancient weapons if he could. He did try once he found where they were. I guess he just didn't count on them being so powerful.

[grendelsbayne]

I was going to say how he couldn't be sure that they didn't have anything of their own to offer an organized resistance to him, but it just occurred to me:

In "Threads" they kept showing how ascended beings could see all kinds of things, so he should've been able to know exactly what we had... Weird...

[Beatrice Otter]

I was going to say how he couldn't be sure that they didn't have anything of their own to offer an organized resistance to him, but it just occurred to me:

In "Threads" they kept showing how ascended beings could see all kinds of things, so he should've been able to know exactly what we had... Weird...
Yes, but in Threads they also said explicitly that Anubis might know everything an Ascended being might know, but he can't act on it unless there is a way for him to have known it/figured it out as a normal Goa'uld. Which must be very frustrating. As to why he didn't just start frying cities, remember he didn't know if SG-1 had found the outpost yet; he was testing the waters, hoping not to get in too deep if they did get their hands on something. As it turned out, SG-1 got what they were looking for at the absolute worst time for him: after he'd committed fully to the attack and couldn't escape in time, but before he could crush the Tau'ri.

[the Fifth Race]

Did you get the 'Lost City" to play without all that garbled interference in the picture Tony?.

[Commander Aegir]

excellent episode nothing bad about it.

[JanusAncient]

I think that we do not yet know the reality of what an ascended being truly knows, because in "Reckoning" Anubis said to Ba'al, is that right, I don't know, but anyway he said that you have no way of knowing what is, and what is not necessary for the grand design. Perhaps the ancients and Anubis already knew that Sg-1 would defeat the his forces, with the ancient tech.

Think about it, as ascended beings, enlightened and everything, they probably contain the destiny of many worlds in their collective ascended consciousness, maybe Anubis was just playing the role that he was destined to play!

[Daniel's_twin]

Umm, I think Anubis was just trying to save face (it was in Threads after the Replicators had been defeated) and still appear almighty even before Baal, who probably doesn't really understand what an Ascended being is. Speculation, yes. But also keep in mind that if the Ascended beings could see into the future, Anubis wouldn't have been so surprised by SG-1 blowing him out of the sky in this one and then being attacked by Oma in Threads. The other Ancients looked surprised as well. :cool:

[gatebee]

Umm, I think Anubis was just trying to save face (it was in Threads after the Replicators had been defeated) and still appear almighty even before Baal, who probably doesn't really understand what an Ascended being is. Speculation, yes. But also keep in mind that if the Ascended beings could see into the future, Anubis wouldn't have been so surprised by SG-1 blowing him out of the sky in this one and then being attacked by Oma in Threads. The other Ancients looked surprised as well. :cool:
cool assessment....

[Daniel's_twin]

Thanx! :cool:

[Anubis345]

i love this EP the city is findly found or is it hahah

yeah i know but i think that the Ancient outpost is cool and the last scene with carter and o'neill is great and touching at the same time

[Stricken]

i love this EP the city is findly found or is it hahah

yeah i know but i think that the Ancient outpost is cool and the last scene with carter and o'neill is great and touching at the same time


The city isnt found as we know *wink wink*

Great conclusion to Season 7, this season has had some of the best Stargate Epsidoes!!!!!!!!!!!!, More of the same please in Season 8,

IMO this would have been great as a film !!!

[Futura]

I think that to finish season 7 off with the episode 'The Lost City' was a smart idea, I loved the episode. The action sences, they finished the ending with Jack frozen to carry it on to the next season.

To sum it all up, 'The Lost City' was the best episode of Stargate SG-1 that I have ever seen.

[the Fifth Race]

I agree with most of you on this thread, Lost City was a truly fantastic 2 part episode!. It definetly ranks up there with my favorites. I actually cheered when Jack unleased the Ancients glowing squids that defeated Anubis' ships. Gotta love the smile Bra'tac showed when he first saw the squids immerging from the Ancient outpost. :D

[shipper hannah]

this was one of my favourite episodes, a great end to the season

[Easter Lily]

A great season finale... one of the best...
It felt good to see the Tauri whip Anubis' behind (too easily perhaps... but I don't care) with a little help from Ancient tech. Don't care much for Anubis... he's as flat as the cloak he's wearing but watching him losing control of the situation almost brought tears to my eyes. :p
Ah... the chair... I'm in love with THAT chair... :D

[Daniel's_twin]

So am I. The next step in La-Z-Boy technology! :cool:

[QuiGonJohn]

Great episode. It was a little rushed, as others had mentioned. If they could have moved some of the SG-1 story, (flying to that planet and back, into part 1, that might have been a little better).

Too bad they didn't get Torri Higginson from the start to play Dr. Weir. Does anyone know why they changed actresses? It would be great if they would go back and re-shoot Weir's scenes with Torri, and put out a new DVD.

[MIGater]

I really hated the blonde as Dr. Weir instead of Torri

[MIGater]

Really loved this episode though one of my favorites.

[L-JADE]

Lost City 1 & 2 are one of the best episodes in SG-1. And they are a great finale when they didn't know at the time of production whether they get season 8 or not, IMHO they made it so good, it's kinda a let down to see Season 8 as a whole.

The blonde Weir and Torri-Weir is a weird thing... I wish they used Torri the first time around, changing the actress on Season 8 seems like a show of lousy decisions of choosing blonde Weir in Lost City.

[Emily]

yeah it's a great episode! One of the best in the season 7!

I think RDA played very well in this episode!!

[Hulabaloo]

Great Episode!

Umm i know people like to translate ancient so does anyone know what Jack said at the end?

[zats]

The aveo amacus I think means 'goodbye' and the dolmata thing might mean 'sleep'.

[ponders] Yeah, it's either that or the other way around.

[Hulabaloo]

Okay thanks!

[zats]

Welcome. :)

[Lida]

This has probably been brought up before and I missed it, but after watching The Lost City, Part II again, just now, I heard the Atlantis theme, once, when they were on the planet where they find the the ZPM and again, when Jack is in the Antarctic and he sits in the chair, releasing the drones. I can't believe I never recognized the melody before this.....it was written before SGA even premiered. Amazing.... :)

Well, need to run, WOO is on and I NEVER miss it! Toodles! ;)

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep, I missed the SGA theme the first time I saw "Lost City" myself. I caught it the first time I watched it on DVD, though.

[cafine_us]

Why was the scene between Sam and Jack in the cargo ship snipped for the marathon? It didn't seem like there was a time issue because I didn't notice anything else had been cut.

[TheCorpulent1]

Scene between Sam and Jack, you say? Where was it supposed to be? I can't seem to remember that one.

[cafine_us]

Yep, after Jack resigns because he's going Ancient, two lines are snipped.

CARTER: OK. ... Sir, at your house before Daniel and Teal'c showed up, what I was gonna say was ...

O'NEILL: I know. (They look at each other for a moment, then Jack slides the bank of crystals back into position.)

[TheCorpulent1]

Ah! I did actually notice that, now that I know where it was. I remembered watching that scene and wondering, "Wasn't there something more, where Jack and Sam ended up making googly eyes over each the crystal panel?" But I was alternating between watching the ep and posting here at the time, so I figured I just missed that part of the scene.

[AGateFan]

Yep, I missed the SGA theme the first time I saw "Lost City" myself. I caught it the first time I watched it on DVD, though.

When the SGA music started and they said "so where is the lost city" (or something like that) I yelled "in the pegasus galaxy!!!". The SGA music gave me chills.... (I really need to get a life, I suppose)

[Snork]

I just watched both parts of this episode one right after the other.

My brain couldn't handle all the awesome.

I agree that Season 8 is kind of a let-down after this, but whatever. It had its moments.

The greatest thing about Lost City is that it was supposed to be a movie so it's WRITTEN like a movie. Just very very well done. Although the first part doesn't get very far and might seem kind of wasteful, I loved the whole exposition of it, especially the scene at Jack's house, just where they're all hanging out together. Shanks is really funny in that scene as well.
The thing I'd say that gives this episode (I'm considering it to just be one two-hour) the real theatrical feel IS that long exposition, especially how it begins. TV writing normally has to get you interested fast so you don't change the channel, and then fit everything into either half an hour or an hour (in the case of SG-1). I just really really love this episode. Alot. Almost enough to say that this really should have been Stargate 2 and that there shouldn't be any season 8, 9 or 10, but I won't go that far.

[Daniel's_twin]

When the SGA music started and they said "so where is the lost city" (or something like that) I yelled "in the pegasus galaxy!!!". The SGA music gave me chills.... (I really need to get a life, I suppose)

If that's the case, I need to also. The first time I saw Lost City 2 and I heard the SGA music, I was like "Woah! that is some emotional music! Hope they play it again!" Well, I got my wish!:D :cool:

[jckfan55]

The aveo amacus I think means 'goodbye' and the dolmata thing might mean 'sleep'.

[ponders] Yeah, it's either that or the other way around.
I think it's "goodbye friend(s)"--from my high school Latin I think amicus is friend.

[Admiral Mappalazarou]

O'Niell! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[timdalton007]

I rewatched this episode last night and noticed soemthing for the first time. I (and many others apparently) rank this as the best SG-1 episode. And yet, the team does not go trough the Stargate!! Just seemed iroonic...

timdalton007

[Mattathias2.0]

I rewatched this episode last night and noticed soemthing for the first time. I (and many others apparently) rank this as the best SG-1 episode. And yet, the team does not go trough the Stargate!! Just seemed iroonic...

timdalton007

It is ironic...

Mattathias

[HirogenGater]

I love the battle over Antarctica. :)

[HirogenGater]

This has probably been brought up before and I missed it, but after watching The Lost City, Part II again, just now, I heard the Atlantis theme, once, when they were on the planet where they find the the ZPM and again, when Jack is in the Antarctic and he sits in the chair, releasing the drones. I can't believe I never recognized the melody before this.....it was written before SGA even premiered. Amazing.... :)

Well, need to run, WOO is on and I NEVER miss it! Toodles! ;)

Really? I need to rewatch this.

[scjon]

Yep, I missed the SGA theme the first time I saw "Lost City" myself. I caught it the first time I watched it on DVD, though.
I have watched Lost City loads of times on DVD and I still hadn't caught the use of the Atlantis music until I saw it mentioned here. D'oh!:o

[Vimy]

I wonder why they didn't used F-22's, F-15's and so on... over antarctica
These planes can't fly in space but they sure can beat the crap out of those death gliders. They should have used them, then we would have superior numbers :p
Just a thought

[timdalton007]

I wonder why they didn't used F-22's, F-15's and so on... over antarctica
These planes can't fly in space but they sure can beat the crap out of those death gliders. They should have used them, then we would have superior numbers :p
Just a thought

Probably because we didn't find out about the outpost in Antarctica until right before the battle. Remember that regular fighter planes take hours to get to Antarctica. McMerdo (I think that's how you spell it) is more of a research base then a military base and the nearest Air Force Base is several hours flying time from where the outpost is.

Hope that answer's your question.

timdalton007

[ftc_osiris]

Just Curious. . .

Did anyone else think that the beam weapon sound effect of the battleship in the Nimitz battlegroup being destroyed (heard on the phone by the president) sounded like the beam weapons from Mars Attacks and War of the Worlds. This has caught my attention every time I watch this episode. Maybe these are not the movies that the sound comes from. I just cannot seem to put my finger on where I have heard that exact sound effect before.

I know it is not the sound effect from the new WotWs squidies because I just checked (close but not quite). At the same time I cannot figure out what it is.

Help. I need a life. Actually I need to study for my income tax mid-term tommorow morning. This sucks, Friday night and I can't go out with my fiance because of an 8AM exam tommorow.

Let me know when you have a chance to listen to it.

[verbalkint]

I have sat back and watched the debate over the "failure" of earth ships design. The prometheous was about 1/10th the size of a gouald Ha'tak yet they were able to single handedly take on massive fire from a fleet of Al'keshs and Gliders. It was a part where one of the bridge members say the shields are failing so Hammond tells the guy to set a course for Anubis's mothership. The prometheous's shield takes direct hits from Anubis's mothership which is like 10 times the size of Ha'taks and then after all that the shield fails completely. Those posters that said the earth ships have been a success is right if you ask me. Our Earth ships are tiny compared to advanced races ships but we can take multiple hits even when we are outnumbered and keep on ticking. I think the fact that our ships are almost always outnumbered at least 3 to 1 in battles make it seem like out ships shields are weak but in fact they are great.

Another thing I noticed in the episode is that O'Neill used a naqueda generator to power that energy beam used to melt the ice so I would have hoped Sam would've took special note of that and found a way to use like 4 or 5 naqueda generators to power energy cannons on our Earth ships. That darn energy beam penetrated a mile of ice. That would be so cool to have weapons like that.

[jonno]

I have sat back and watched the debate over the "failure" of earth ships design. The prometheous was about 1/10th the size of a gouald Ha'tak yet they were able to single handedly take on massive fire from a fleet of Al'keshs and Gliders. It was a part where one of the bridge members say the shields are failing so Hammond tells the guy to set a course for Anubis's mothership. The prometheous's shield takes direct hits from Anubis's mothership which is like 10 times the size of Ha'taks and then after all that the shield fails completely. Those posters that said the earth ships have been a success is right if you ask me. Our Earth ships are tiny compared to advanced races ships but we can take multiple hits even when we are outnumbered and keep on ticking. I think the fact that our ships are almost always outnumbered at least 3 to 1 in battles make it seem like out ships shields are weak but in fact they are great.


Indeed - you can't doubt the strength of the shields ... mainly becase they're Asgard. People say the Prommie was a failure however because it's weapons are useless. So whilst it can take multiple hits, it can't actually do much damage to opposing ships.

[wolverine_nl]

I have sat back and watched the debate over the "failure" of earth ships design. The prometheous was about 1/10th the size of a gouald Ha'tak yet they were able to single handedly take on massive fire from a fleet of Al'keshs and Gliders. It was a part where one of the bridge members say the shields are failing so Hammond tells the guy to set a course for Anubis's mothership. The prometheous's shield takes direct hits from Anubis's mothership which is like 10 times the size of Ha'taks and then after all that the shield fails completely. Those posters that said the earth ships have been a success is right if you ask me. Our Earth ships are tiny compared to advanced races ships but we can take multiple hits even when we are outnumbered and keep on ticking. I think the fact that our ships are almost always outnumbered at least 3 to 1 in battles make it seem like out ships shields are weak but in fact they are great.

Another thing I noticed in the episode is that O'Neill used a naqueda generator to power that energy beam used to melt the ice so I would have hoped Sam would've took special note of that and found a way to use like 4 or 5 naqueda generators to power energy cannons on our Earth ships. That darn energy beam penetrated a mile of ice. That would be so cool to have weapons like that.

I also always wondered why Sam didn't take notes, and also that device Jack made when in The Fifth Race he went to the IDA galaxy, the device for extra power, that was kinda like a ZPM (maybe a bit less powerfull) but enough power to boost it up, why hasn't Sam examened that either!? :sheppard:

[Bragi]

Indeed - you can't doubt the strength of the shields ... mainly becase they're Asgard. People say the Prommie was a failure however because it's weapons are useless. So whilst it can take multiple hits, it can't actually do much damage to opposing ships.

And because...

Prometheus couldn't take a single shot from the Ori-designed satellite weapon the Rand Protectorate built in the season nine episode "Ethon." The end result was the destruction of Earth's first mothership.

[Anubis69]

Cos she gave it away to the alternate dimension! Plus, i wouldn't let people hear you say it's a ZPM... they get a bit testie. :D

[jackspal]

I also always wondered why Sam didn't take notes, and also that device Jack made when in The Fifth Race he went to the IDA galaxy, the device for extra power, that was kinda like a ZPM (maybe a bit less powerfull) but enough power to boost it up, why hasn't Sam examened that either!? :sheppard:
:sam: Who said she hasn't?:jack:

[verbalkint]

And because...

Prometheus couldn't take a single shot from the Ori-designed satellite weapon the Rand Protectorate built in the season nine episode "Ethon." The end result was the destruction of Earth's first mothership.
Well the Wraith couldn't take a single hit either. Heck there are alot of ships that couldn't take that hit so thats not exactly a strong point.

[Lord Shiva]

And because...

Prometheus couldn't take a single shot from the Ori-designed satellite weapon the Rand Protectorate built in the season nine episode "Ethon." The end result was the destruction of Earth's first mothership.

Hello?

I think you already explained it...

Ori-designed sateliite weapon. Knowing that it was probably "powered up" by a Prior. So the Earth ship is STILL powerful... I think even a Ha'Tak would have gone BOOM from a few hits of that satellite.

[harsiesis child]

of course it is one of the best episode for me, may be THE best... there is all that make stargate: little of humour, discovering, action, space battle...
a must! :)

[Dark Falcon]

I'll keep it short; This is the Best Stargate Episode of all time!!
Not only that, but the best aliens-attack-Earth scenario ever!!
The battle over Antarctica is just timeless!!

Long live STARGATE SG-1!!

[Reyclou]

Pardon me if this has been answered before, but did they ever name any of the naval ships in this ep? I could have sworn they named at least one of them...

[Gen_J_O'Neill]

I cant be certain, its been a while since ive seen the ep. but i think they named a ship in the Nimtz carrier group. i know it was one of the carrier groups.

And ill have to agree with Falcon_06, this was the BEST stargate ep. ever!!!

[TheGreatLordGeorge]

THIS EPISODE WAS KICK A$$

[Benjamin von Dragschtag]

what is this city? Is this city the atlantis?

[Uber]

what is this city? Is this city the atlantis?Yes and no.

Yes that's the city they were attempting to find...although they don't realize that Atlantis is the lost city they had been looking for since it was first mentioned (in Full Circle I believe) until this episode when Jack, filled with the knowledge of the Ancients, speaks its name.

The no part comes only from the fact that they don't find Atlantis in this episode although their actions in Lost City is the set up for it. That happens in the series premiere of Stargate: Atlantis.

[Albion]

I cant be certain, its been a while since ive seen the ep. but i think they named a ship in the Nimtz carrier group. i know it was one of the carrier groups.

Yes, they do. In the episode transcript at Gatenoise it's called the Spruance:


MAYNARD: Mr President, we’ve managed to contact the captain of the Spruance, a destroyer in the Nimitz battle group. (He puts the receiver down so that the captain’s voice comes over the speakerphone.)

CAPTAIN: I repeat, some sort of beam just came out of the sky. There wasn’t any warning, but the entire carrier just went up in one big fireball.

HAYES: Captain, can you see the enemy?

CAPTAIN: Holy! Another cruiser just blew up. Where the hell’s the fire coming from? All ahead, flank ... (The line goes to static. Maynard snatches up the phone and listens, then puts the phone down. He looks at his watch.)

That sounds a little odd though, so maybe it's been misheard by the transcriber. Or...it could be right. You'd probably have to take a look at that scene and decide for yourself.

Albion :)

[Thor's Chariot]

That was a great episode!! I cant wait for season 8 1st disc to come netflix on saturday. :) Wasn't earth part of the protected planets treaty that the azgard and ghould had? And where were the azgard? I remeber Thor saying earlier that he monitored all hyperspace activity around earth so shouldn't he have showed up to whip ass.

[PG15]

1. Anubis was so bad-a$$ that he didn't care about the treaty.

2. As for Thor...you'll find out later.

[mmu_man]

How come later the drones won't look as nice and as many... OTH he should have saved some, seems they weren't all needed.
Still great to watch again.

[Kyle]

I've been thinking of this for a short while, what did Anubis honestly think he could achieve from showing up as a hologram in Antartica, that they would just say "Oh dammit, oh well."?

[Anubistraveler]

He was probably just trying to by time or create fear. I believe me was trying to create a window for his troops to get to SG-1

[Unamed]

this is by far the best episode of stargate sg1 ever, period.

[Krisz]

On thinking about it, this is the episode I have watched more times than any other. This episode has everything that makes you sit back at the end and just say 'wow'!

[Stargate Atlantis]

It is a shame, that i have not seen this ep, actually i have not seen the whole season 7,
because MGM or SPHE did not launched this season on Volume DVDs in the Netherlands. :evil:

So now i am waiting, what FOX is doing with the new dvd box of season 7.

[teal'c2006]

The action sequences were great I really loved this episode is in my favorite episodes from the show....

[Gen_J_O'Neill]

Id have to agree with you there teal'c2006. This is my all time favorite ep. of stargate. It has everything you could want in an ep., great action, great team interraction, a crisis and a cliffhanger ending making you want more!

[Integrabyte]

I loved these episodes but I wonder why some things were not explained about the outpost in Antarctica.

1. Why was the ZPM depleted?
2. Against whom did the Ancients use that ZPM to power the drones?

[sparkygate]

I loved these episodes but I wonder why some things were not explained about the outpost in Antarctica.

1. Why was the ZPM depleted?
2. Against whom did the Ancients use that ZPM to power the drones?

Well technically they didnt run out of drones but it does pose the question how the ZPM ran out of power but my theory is that the shield was running over time when atlantis left the outpost in Antarctica after 10,000 years you would expect the ZPM run out power

[Integrabyte]

Well technically they didnt run out of drones but it does pose the question how the ZPM ran out of power but my theory is that the shield was running over time when atlantis left the outpost in Antarctica after 10,000 years you would expect the ZPM run out power


Okay, why would they leave the shield running if nobody was there?

Maybe you are right, to quarantine the area, where the plague was...who knows :P. I think things would be a lot easier if we could find some evidence that they encountered other problems on Earth apart from the plague.

After seeing all the episodes regarding the Lost City, i tend to think that they used the ZPM in order to give the star drive sufficient power to take off. One might say now that they had enough ZPMs and they did not need the outpost ZPM, but can we know for sure? Another idea could be that they were suffering badly from the plague and had no clue where they would go and what will happen, so they figured they should save the 3 ZPMs and drain the outpost one.

Just an idea, I don't even think this happened :P.

[Dark Falcon]

Okay, why would they leave the shield running if nobody was there?

Maybe you are right, to quarantine the area, where the plague was...who knows :P. I think things would be a lot easier if we could find some evidence that they encountered other problems on Earth apart from the plague.

After seeing all the episodes regarding the Lost City, i tend to think that they used the ZPM in order to give the star drive sufficient power to take off. One might say now that they had enough ZPMs and they did not need the outpost ZPM, but can we know for sure? Another idea could be that they were suffering badly from the plague and had no clue where they would go and what will happen, so they figured they should save the 3 ZPMs and drain the outpost one.

Just an idea, I don't even think this happened :P.

What sort of plague are you talking about? The Black Plague?

They probably left the shield running so that no else could get their hands on the outpost.

[Integrabyte]

What sort of plague are you talking about? The Black Plague?

They probably left the shield running so that no else could get their hands on the outpost.



Who would want the outpost?;)

[NATIK]

Earth might want it or atleast the Chair and any potential drones they have laying around in storage down there might be nice aswell. All of it could be beamed right out by a 304.

[garhkal]

Oh wow I loved the ending to this ep.

The look on Sam's face when she touches the ice and sees Jack frozen, awww! :D Angst-o-rama!

And the rest of the teams.... Was for me, a 'flip' of meridian when they were all watching danny die..


you just gave me the BEST idea..!!

an SG-1 exibit in Madam Toussauds (sp?) in London :D waxwork models of the team hehe

I am actually surprised they have not done that... I know i would go there..


One of my favorite parts of this ep can be said in two words: KINSEY FIRED. I'm liking this new president, he's got some class. =)

And some balls.... Especially after what he said in 'inauguration'..


Both her and Uma Therman are celestial bodies IMO.

Her, yes. Uma no... i cannot stand her...


And besides, I think the jelly-fish kinda went with the jelly-pad O'neill used to control the weapon. :cool:

ROTFLMAO...... That is a cool visualization.

[Two_L's]

Oh wow I loved the ending to this ep.

SPOILER:

The look on Sam's face when she touches the ice and sees Jack frozen, awww! :D Angst-o-rama!

The ending of this ep always makes me cry, even though I know SG-1 will find a way to save O'Neill. The look on Sam, Daniel and Teal'c's faces as they look at frozen Jack are so sad. :(


Id have to agree with you there teal'c2006. This is my all time favorite ep. of stargate. It has everything you could want in an ep., great action, great team interraction, a crisis and a cliffhanger ending making you want more!

I agree too. The Lost City was an awesome episode because it had a little bit of everything that makes Stargate so fantastic to watch. Loved it. :D

[garhkal]

While the scene with jack going into the chamber to be frozen was a tear jerker, to me the music is what made me cry...

[shippyangel]

Ohh, great episode! That was a hell of a season finale! Stargate writters/directors sure know what they're doing! (Though I almost broke my television when I read "the end") LMAO ;D

I did cry at end. When he said "aveo amacuse" or something like that... ;\
Sam touching the icy chamber was sad too... The bitter taste of saying goodbye to someone you love. Arrg, just to see them looking into each other eyes as if was the last time... ;\\

[ImNotLucy]

it was the end of the sg-1 as we had known it for years.

[5thraceusher]

I've notice something that i wanted point out. In the ep Lost City pt.2 we see that the outpost uses drones. Now with everything you've seen - stargate and atlantis, the anicents were using, to roughly put it "lasers", energy weapons to defend themselves. But, this is what i want to point out where the weapon system defending teh outpost is the drone system. The 'drone waepon system' gives the user, in the chair, precision and accuracy when comes to what shoots and destroys. Now lookin at the way the Ancients philosophy has change over the time, due on part of enlightment - being good and all that..., you'll notice the weapon doesn't just indiscriminately kill whatever is in its way. The nature of the weapon is very controlled. the 'drones' must have delevolped during or following 'Ascension'.

Well just wanted to put that out there...

[First]

One of the best eps ever. When those drones start firing, cutting through the unstoppable enemy fleet and save the day...that's just awesome!

[First]

the 'drones' must have delevolped during or following 'Ascension'.
Well just wanted to put that out there...

The drones are simply a "smart" weapon that can distinguish between friend or foe. It's just like something we would develop, like a video camera in a guided missile, only far superior.
A laser is just as discriminating, if there is someone controlling what is shoots at.
I don't think it's a philosophical thing, more about precision targeting of your enemies without damaging friends. I don't think you need to reach enlightenment to realise hurting friends is bad.

[5thraceusher]

Oh, now that i think about it, ur right First. Umm... thnx i do see it that way. Makes sense.

[Ark_Commando]

By far one of the best episodes. Anubis's fleet stood no chance against the Ancient Drones. I've got to admit he could scream

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

this is my favorite episode by far for SG-1 The Lost City was a very good episode. We had all of the elements-team moments, a little romance, a big space battle, and we had anubis get his butt handed to him by O'Neill via drones. My Rating 10/10!

[mrs.Jackson982]

grr.... I never actually got to see the lost city part 1 and 2 because the disc always messes up on that part...grr

[Jumper_One]

grr.... I never actually got to see the lost city part 1 and 2 because the disc always messes up on that part...grr

:eek::eek::eek: you HAVE to watch LC! it's the best season finale ever imo ;)

[Miss_Izzy]

grr.... I never actually got to see the lost city part 1 and 2 because the disc always messes up on that part...grr

That's what happened with my first set, much to my dismay. Luckily, I was able to exchange it for a new set without a problem.

[Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper]

This has probably been brought up before and I missed it, but after watching The Lost City, Part II again, just now, I heard the Atlantis theme, once, when they were on the planet where they find the the ZPM and again, when Jack is in the Antarctic and he sits in the chair, releasing the drones. I can't believe I never recognized the melody before this.....it was written before SGA even premiered. Amazing.... :)

I noticed it too and like someone else in this thread said, it gave me chills just hearing it. The Atlantis music can actually be heard in at least three places:

1. On Proclarush Taonas after O'Neil utters the words "Terra . . . Atlantis". (This scene is my favorite from the entire series.)

2. Aboard the Al'kesh just after O'Neil heals Bra'tac's wound.

3. At the Antarctic outpost just after Daniel tells them this is not the Lost City.

Too bad that anyone watching the series for the first time in the correct timeline order wouldn't notice the familiarity of the music in these scenes.

[Teddybrown]

I think the battle scene was absolutely awesome
Finally seen it from start to finish and the episode on a whole is ok
Some bits could have been a bit better but as i said... over all i think it was ok

[longhorn21]

Best Ep Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[L E E]

Hmmm... How can I comment on Lost City. It's not split into 2 parts in the DVD that I have. I'll just have to combine my comments for Part 1 and 2 then. So here it is. Warning for randomness.

Oh wow, oh wow, oh wow!!! That battle scene with the F-302s and Prometheus was amazing!!! I love love love it! Now this is sci-fi! It looked so cool when the F-302s are coming from one direction and the Alkesh and gliders from another then wham! Especially when the Prometheus is covering the shuttle. And another wow for the Prometheus shields. They are almost close to the main mothership and their shields are still holding up. That is some shields. Was it Asgard? The weapons are kinda weak though. I have to watch again to see if they hit anything.

The entire episode is amazing. But that battle scene, for me, makes up for all the other bad episodes in this season.

Jack has once again proven his leadership skill by taking on the ancient device. I know it's not good for him, but I kinda like Ancient Jack. The healing thing is a bit meh though.

I love that scene where SG1 and Hammond are having drinks. Daniel is sooo drunk but funny. :) How many has he had? Burns as goauld. :) Guinness as substitute for food. What an idea. :)

Ancient weapon are glowy jellyfish/squid? Uh-huh. Whatever works. For all we know, it may be Jack's imagination that formed the shape of the weapon.

If Anubis knew where to send his hologram in that ice cavern, why didn't he just transport himself?

Kinsey got fired! Yes! He is such a coward. Where does he think he's going? The Alpha site? Doesn't he need authorisation for going through the gate?

With all those alien ships orbiting the planet, would the meteor showers alibi really work?

[Sp!der]

wheres cameron mitchell in it?....
he's kinda missing :cameron:^^

[gatechick]

So O'Neill is the one who let his get sucked. Was he the only one who would be able to do it? If daniel had done it would it have been succesful on him. I ask because carter was near the wall when the headsucker came out of the wall. In the Fifth race, it came out when Jack crossed the circle. So is anyone able to access the repository or only those with ancient genes?

Oops sorry this was supposed to go in Lost City part 1

[nx01a]

I think it's the ATA gene. The Asgard had trouble getting info from one, and the Asgard said Jack was 'advanced'.

[leiasky]

This episode would have made a GREAT movie. It ahd all the elements. Action, effects, team building moments and relationship angst. Something like this is what I hope the third SG-1 movie will be.

Everyone argues that Jack shouldn't have been the one to have his head sucked again, but maybe he was the only one who could have done it because of the ATA gene?

Though Daniel uses one of those things in season 9 or 10 in Merlin's cave, though it doesn't work quite the same way.

[RononXSpecialist]

Yea, it was definity one of the most exciteing episodes of the SG-1 series. It was funny to xD When they looked at the crossword puzzle and

Sam said "For 14 down the question was Celestial Body and you wrote the answer Uma Therman?"

Jack : "Ahh yes.."

LoL :P hurray for JACK!

[leiasky]

Well, he couldn't very well admit that it was SAM, now, could he? Pesky frat regs and all . . .

It was genius that he started filling out the crossword in Ancient. Ahh , I love Lost City so much!

[gateship15]

i love when he filled out the cross word in Ancient i also lied when he started talking in ancient. i can't believe he actually put the library of knowledge back in his brain when it almost killed him the first time

[jelgate]

i love when he filled out the cross word in Ancient i also lied when he started talking in ancient. i can't believe he actually put the library of knowledge back in his brain when it almost killed him the first timeI think he understood the risks but its his life vs the galaxy.

[nx01a]

That's what heroes do.

[leiasky]

That's what heroes do.

And because of the classified nature of their job, very much unsung heroes at that.

[Anda]

I love this episode.My favorite parts are when Jack shoot with drones and the big battle in Antarctica.

[leiasky]

God yes. The battle over Antarctica has got to be the coolest and best done battles of the series. I hope that the next SG-1 movie has something like this. It gave the show a big budget theatrical feel. It was amazingly done.

[Automission]

You know what was ironic of this? After all the trouble they went to finding the lost city and its weapons, they never show Atlantis on SG1, or any of its "super" weapons.

[leiasky]

You know what was ironic of this? After all the trouble they went to finding the lost city and its weapons, they never show Atlantis on SG1, or any of its "super" weapons.

That's because it was in another galaxy. :)

And, really, SG-1 was supposed to end and Atlantis was supposed to take over. It just didn't happen that way so the two series ran concurrently with one another. We do see ancient tech through to the end of SG-1, though.

[Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper]

You know what was ironic of this? After all the trouble they went to finding the lost city and its weapons, they never show Atlantis on SG1, or any of its "super" weapons.

In the original story, when season 7 was going to be the final one for SG1, Atlantis, not the outpost, was going to be found buried under the ice in Antarctica. That was the reason for the whole continental drift thing shown in the Procralush Taonas scene. Atlantis was once situated in Antarctica when the continent was closer to the equator, then over millions of years gradually drifted southward to the south polar region until the city was buried in ice. SGA was originally to have been based on Earth. When they renewed SG1 for an eighth season they changed the storyline and had Atlantis blast off for Pegasus 5-10 million years ago, before the ice could bury it, leaving just the outpost. This was to avoid conflicts between the two series, the most obvious one which would have had two stargates based on Earth.

[leiasky]

That makes a heck of a lot of sense, actually. I'd have loved to see more ancient tech found on earth since it was the Ancient's homeworld for a long time. It makes sense that they'd leave more than just the outpost on the planet. . .

[Automission]

A good job Atlantis wasn't on earth. How the hell would they write out there were three gates on earth, and only one worked as the main gate? :p
Hell, I'm beginning to think earth is a stargate factory, no other planet has this many.

[leiasky]

A good job Atlantis wasn't on earth. How the hell would they write out there were three gates on earth, and only one worked as the main gate? :p
Hell, I'm beginning to think earth is a stargate factory, no other planet has this many.

Well, as explained in an SG-1 episode, the gate that had a DHD was considered by the gate itself to be the main one. So the gate controlled at the SGC wouldn't be considered the main gate.

And so the gate on Atlantis would be considered the main gate because it is connected to its original power source.

Earth must have been a center of power for the Ancients (and later the goa'uld) so when one gate went missing, it was replaced fairly quickly.

[Automission]

Well, as explained in an SG-1 episode, the gate that had a DHD was considered by the gate itself to be the main one. So the gate controlled at the SGC wouldn't be considered the main gate.

And so the gate on Atlantis would be considered the main gate because it is connected to its original power source.

Earth must have been a center of power for the Ancients (and later the goa'uld) so when one gate went missing, it was replaced fairly quickly.

Yeah exactly, the DHD gate is the main gate. Now, they worked around the problem of the Antarctic gate having a DHD, but Atlantis also has a DHD, so it'd no doubt have main priority.
So I would be interested to see how they wrote around it.

[Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper]

A good job Atlantis wasn't on earth. How the hell would they write out there were three gates on earth, and only one worked as the main gate? :p
Hell, I'm beginning to think earth is a stargate factory, no other planet has this many.


Well, as explained in an SG-1 episode, the gate that had a DHD was considered by the gate itself to be the main one. So the gate controlled at the SGC wouldn't be considered the main gate.

And so the gate on Atlantis would be considered the main gate because it is connected to its original power source.


Yeah exactly, the DHD gate is the main gate. Now, they worked around the problem of the Antarctic gate having a DHD, but Atlantis also has a DHD, so it'd no doubt have main priority.
So I would be interested to see how they wrote around it.

Let's see if I can clear up what I believe is a misunderstanding. The three gates I believe that are being referred to here are 1) The Egyptian gate, 2) The Antarctic gate, and 3) The Pegasus gate.

The Egyptian gate wasn't on Earth during the reign of the Ancients. It was brought to Earth by the Goa'uld several thousand years ago. By that time the Antarctic gate, unknown to the Goa'uld, has fallen into disuse.

The Pegasus Gate that we're all familiar with in SGA probably didn't exist on Earth. Likely it, and the entire Pegasus gate system was built after Atlantis arrived in Pegasus. This makes sense since this gate network had completely different symbols.

That leaves us with one gate, the Antarctic gate, which we know to be some 50 million years old. Although I can't say for certain this was the intention of TPTB, it is quite likely the Antarctic gate was the original gate in the Atlantis gate room during the Ancients' very lengthy time span on Earth as Atlantis was part of the MW gate system at that time. The gate was removed and left behind when the city blasted off for Pegasus.

In short, there was only one gate active on Earth at any one time.

Hopefully that makes the whole scenario a bit tidier.:)

[leiasky]

Yep. Makes sense to me:)

[suse]

This was a good ep. :D Loved Hammond being so decisive about giving SG-1 time - even at risk to his ship and crews lives. He deserved a medal.

suse

[Mongoletsi]

Just watched this on Sky1 now.

Question; how come it took so many drones to destroy Anubis' ship? They clearly waltzed through the (super advanced) sheilds. We've seen in SGA that only a few are needed to take out sizeable craft.

Oh well, it looked pretty :)

[leiasky]

It was believable that it took a lot of drones to take out Anubis (an ascended being with ancient technology). It's not believable that it only takes a few drones when Atlantis fires them.

It's just a matter of TPTB not paying attention to continuity.

[reddevil18]

It was believable that it took a lot of drones to take out Anubis (an ascended being with ancient technology). It's not believable that it only takes a few drones when Atlantis fires them.

It's just a matter of TPTB not paying attention to continuity.Not necessarily. It could just be that, being the first time he was using it, Jack just let it rip, firing as many as he could, since he didn't know how many it would take to destroy the ship. Maybe it could have worked with fewer drones. It's not really an inconsistency. Definitely nothing major.

[Anda]

This is one of my favorite episode!!!

[Hornet]

This has to be my favorite episode (both 21 and 22 actually) up to this point. I think its also one of the greatest season ending, with multiple issues going on. politics, the search for the ancient city, and Anubis deciding to destroy Earth.

The final battle scene was amazing too

Sure glad the Ancients decided to leave a superweapon behind on our planet.

I actually don't think any humans would be able to study anything about that godlike weapon

Even the Asgard are searching a needle in an infinite haystack trying to understand their knowledge :p

[Dinoman]

My favourite episode in Season 7, Heroes is next. This is the last time we see Hammond and SG1 work together to fight an alien, and Kinsey is out, finally!!

The golden fairies were amazing. At one point I thought they were the Furlings!

[cuero]

hello all: i just sow the lost city part 1{mod snip}

[Ulkesh47]

What's "d/l discussion"?

[jelgate]

What's "d/l discussion"?

Most likely illegal downloading. Its one of the more stricter rules of GW.

[Jimbob041106]

I love this episode.

[plague]

I found it funny how the Drones couldn't shoot a non-moving object (chair where Jack was sitting in) which was directly in front of them.

But I did love the episode. It was pretty good. A few plot holes but overall, it was good.

[Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper]

I found it funny how the Drones couldn't shoot a non-moving object (chair where Jack was sitting in) which was directly in front of them.

But I did love the episode. It was pretty good. A few plot holes but overall, it was good.

Jack was directing the drones from the chair. That would explain why he wasn't a target, and why the drones only went after enemy ships above the surface.

:)

[vzzzzzbx]

Great episode overall. The beginning of the end of SG-1 as we knew it, looking back maybe it would not have been so bad if the show had ended here, maybe with a couple of movies to tie up the loose ends. With seasons 8, 9 and 10 it was gradually downhill from here.

[Thunder Hawk]

Great episode overall. The beginning of the end of SG-1 as we knew it, looking back maybe it would not have been so bad if the show had ended here, maybe with a couple of movies to tie up the loose ends. With seasons 8, 9 and 10 it was gradually downhill from here.

same here lost city pretty much ends the story arc of the original team

[nmmb]

I just saw it and I saw part 1 and 2 as one episode and loved it!

The acting was really nice, Amanda Tapping is a really nice actress! But what I loved the most is the ending worthy of being in a movie theatre!

Best Series Finale yet!

[SaUr0n]

Good episode.Also it was the starting point of SGA.Big changes took place.Kinda sad because i liked the old way better.Still it was cool to see anubis going down.

[Rac80]

Enjoyed The lost city yet again.... it is one of the best special effects sg1 eps. Great great fun. :D

[Coaster]

Finally saw this one- parts 1 and 2 together. So much of the backstory for Atlantis makes more sense now. Brilliant episode; I was cheering when Jack was firing the drones.

And the President truly had me cackling when he was telling Kinsey to shut up. :P

[leiasky]

Yeah, I adore Henry Hayes. I hope they bring him back in the 3rd SG-1 movie.

[slurredspeech]

Yeah, I adore Henry Hayes. I hope they bring him back in the 3rd SG-1 movie.

Oooh, yes! For some reason, he's always struck me as a more laid-back version of Jack. The more easy-going yet equally snarky brother. Huh.

[es!]

Wow that was a heck of an episode! *still in shock*
The story! The special effects! The 'ship!
So looking forward to season 8! :D

[leiasky]

Everything pales in comparison to Lost City - even the shippy (Sam/Jack related!) episodes! :)

[jelgate]

Everything pales in comparison to Lost City - even the shippy (Sam/Jack related!) episodes! :)

I think that is a little extreme. Granted Lost City is one of the best if not very best episode in the franchise. But some episodes at least to me compare to Lost City. Like Heroes for example.

[leiasky]

I think that is a little extreme. Granted Lost City is one of the best if not very best episode in the franchise. But some episodes at least to me compare to Lost City. Like Heroes for example.

Everyone's got a different opinion:) Yours and mine rarely agree.

Heroes is a great episode, yes, and is probably second in my ranking, but for all around enjoyment, its Lost City for me.

[siles]

Everything pales in comparison to Lost City - even the shippy (Sam/Jack related!) episodes! :)


I think that is a little extreme. Granted Lost City is one of the best if not very best episode in the franchise. But some episodes at least to me compare to Lost City. Like Heroes for example.


Everyone's got a different opinion:) Yours and mine rarely agree.

Heroes is a great episode, yes, and is probably second in my ranking, but for all around enjoyment, its Lost City for me.

Lost City is the best part of the Stargate franchise the movies, Atlantis and SGu included!

[nx01a]

You're not wrong. ;):D

[es!]

I think that is a little extreme. Granted Lost City is one of the best if not very best episode in the franchise. But some episodes at least to me compare to Lost City. Like Heroes for example.

I have to agree here. Love both two-parters, but for different reasons.

[Jeff O'Connor]

My rewatch has brought me to the second half of the seventh season and I'm super-stoked to see 'Heroes' and 'Lost City' again over the next few of nights. Tonight we're aiming to watch 'Chimera', 'Death Knell', 'Heroes Part 1' and 'Heroes Part 2'. Tomorrow night, it's the four that follow, and Saturday it's both parts of 'New Order' and SGA's 'Rising'.

Can't wait. We're entering what I consider the high point of the entire franchise. Back-to-back-to-back two-parters, and 'Heroes' just a couple of episodes before that.

[mrscopterdoc]

I am glad they found a new Dr. Weir for SGA.

Daniel thinking Teal'c is so deep :lol:

Please, Kinsey, just die! :samanime15:

:jack: "Thursdays aren't good for us" :P

:daniel: "you just said durentis"
:jack: : "did not"
:daniel: "did too"
:D

:jack: "following you still not" ........"uma thurman" :D

Sam in charge yay!

Hammond on the Promethus woohoo!

Anubis went bye-bye.

[RSKC]

Even though I saw it years ago, I liked it very much, escessially with a drone appearing to head to anubis himself. That being said, I have one proublem, what he does with his fleet

He arrives with 40+ ships, enough to proubley scroch the earth a few times, and tightly clustores them. I know this is partly with me wanting the gate to become public and would have been a perfect way for the writers to do it, but even logically it does not make sence. The Goa'uld belive themselves to be gods, Anubis no excpetion. He destroyed a aircraft carrier and commonication services, so why not send a few ships over some of the big city's/most dences places on the Earth. Not only would this show them that, unlike Aphophis and others, he really serious along with make them more hesatent using the Ancient weapon. oh I know the drones would have destroyed the ships wherever they were, but Anubis could have got a few shots in before they were destroyed.

[Apophis 2000]

this is the best episode of the series
anubis screwed up, and the earth wins again.....

[maneth]

Yay, it was wonderful to finally see Anubis lose. O'Neill was cool this time with his Ancient knowledge.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

Finally saw this one- parts 1 and 2 together. So much of the backstory for Atlantis makes more sense now. Brilliant episode; I was cheering when Jack was firing the drones.

And the President truly had me cackling when he was telling Kinsey to shut up. :P

i was watching it last night as and when Hayes was like to Kinsey "Oh i have enough on you to have you shot" i started cracking up as well. Lost City for me is the best episode i saw.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

i also think why i like this episode was that it was originally suppose to be the first sg-1 movie after the series ended. if sg-1 ended after "Full Circle". and plus it totally sets up Atlantis's "Rising."

[GateGhost]

This episode makes me laugh so hard every time I watch this episode. I also like the big battle scene at the end of this episode. This is the first part of Atlantis' rising arc.

[Dave2]

When Samantha sees the fighting in the sky over Antarctica she says that the gliders were not goa'uld.
So does that mean that the fire activated them from the chair that O'Neill was sitting on?

And HOW were the supersoldiers under the ice in Antarctica killed with conventional weapons when we know they are impervious to such weapons?

[Jedi_Master_Bra'tac]

When Samantha sees the fighting in the sky over Antarctica she says that the gliders were not goa'uld.
So does that mean that the fire activated them from the chair that O'Neill was sitting on?

eh? These were separate events



And HOW were the supersoldiers under the ice in Antarctica killed with conventional weapons when we know they are impervious to such weapons?

They were killed with drones

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

When Samantha sees the fighting in the sky over Antarctica she says that the gliders were not goa'uld.
So does that mean that the fire activated them from the chair that O'Neill was sitting on?

You seem to be confusing things here. The gliders that appear are the human X-302 fleet launched from the Prometheus.


And HOW were the supersoldiers under the ice in Antarctica killed with conventional weapons when we know they are impervious to such weapons?

They're not. SG-1 have the new weapons we saw developed in 'Death Knell', and they are clearly shown turning them on before they start firing at the supersoldiers.

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

Wow - I had truly forgotten how good this feature length episode was. It's probably the most exciting the show has ever been up to this point, and pulls together story threads which have appeared since the start of the series into a fantastic adventure. I honestly can't find any real fault with it. It's funny, has incredible action, and a lot of drama.

Bra'tac is amazing - he just can't die! Kinsey is the most unpleasant he's ever been, which means that Ronny Cox did a perfect job. The original actress for Dr. Weir wasn't bad at all, but I'm surprised that Torri Higginson didn't play the role here given that pre-production on SG Atlantis must have been well underway by this point. I'll be listening out for more info on that in the commentaries.

I don't recall Dr. Weir's ability to speak 5 languages ever being brought up again, though. I guess it's not that important once she's in a different galaxy! After Jack only making scattered appearances over the last couple of seasons, it's nice to have him be around here in much larger role.

One of the things I liked most was the appearance of the Atlantis theme tune right at the end of the episode as O'Neill gets into the sleep chamber. I'd never noticed that before (probably because I haven't seen Lost City since it originally aired). It sent a little chill down me.

Seeing episodes like this, it makes me feel truly upset that Stargate no longer exists in any way, shape or form. This was probably the high point of the entire franchise.

RATING: 10 out of 10

[Ilana]

Just watched this again for maybe the 4th or 5th time. It's an incredible episode and I like how on the DVD's there's no interruption and flows as a whole. O'Neill really shines in this. I did like this Weir, I thought she had a lot of potential. It took me a long time to warm up to Torri Higginson.