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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 720</FONT>
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The newly-elected president is debriefed about the Stargate program, and Vice President Kinsey makes a new play for control of the program.
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bcmilco
May 1st, 2004, 11:07 PM
For a clips show I thought this episode was amazingly well done.
It had a great plot that drove the episode and the clips had a good reason for being shown.
It also helps to have an "all star" cast ;) And I love that they brought in that diskette from "Chain Reaction"
Nolamom
May 2nd, 2004, 01:15 AM
I loved William Devane and the President. I hope that TPTB write him into a few episodes for season 8 - he's a great character.
Nola
bcmilco
May 2nd, 2004, 01:16 AM
Oh, yes please, that would be so nice! :)
Bacardi
May 3rd, 2004, 08:22 AM
as far as clips shows go, this wasnt bad at all. set the scene nicely for LC
MagnoliaAnaglypta
May 5th, 2004, 08:21 AM
I thought this one was clever. I thought it was extremely well scripted, and extremely well cast, and I didn't miss the main cast at all.
Lugal
May 5th, 2004, 03:55 PM
Great episode, for a clip show. I thought it insteresting that he stared at the staue of Kennedy for a few moments because I tghink William Devine played Kennedy in at least one movie.
Question: Other than Divide and Conquer did we ever see the other president?
bcmilco
May 5th, 2004, 04:03 PM
The man in D&C was not the president, he was a stand in just in case there were any Zatarcs on the base.
The real president was waiting up on the surface. So we never actually saw the other president in any episodes.
KorbenDirewolf
May 7th, 2004, 03:43 AM
I don't think the former President existed as anything other than "The President". Henry Hayes seems to be doing a pretty good job adjusting.
Mr Prophet
May 8th, 2004, 06:16 AM
It's interesting that this episode once and for all establishes that Stargate is set in a world alternate to ours, since a President is being inaugurated in 2003/4.
Crazedwraith
May 9th, 2004, 01:59 AM
It's interesting that this episode once and for all establishes that Stargate is set in a world alternate to ours, since a President is being inaugurated in 2003/4.
Err. now about loads of eps since "Shadows and Mirrors" That establishedd there was election coming up?
Mr Prophet
May 9th, 2004, 02:07 AM
Err. now about loads of eps since "Shadows and Mirrors" That establishedd there was election coming up?
But 'coming up' could mean a lot of things; it's a long campaign trail.
stargate barbie
May 9th, 2004, 05:49 PM
i. love. the new president. i hope we get to see more of him.
best. clip show. EVER!
Teendragon
May 17th, 2004, 07:42 AM
wow i love this episode , my favorite clip is when Anubis said "times up" and then with his freaking huge ship , he destroyed all of those ghould motherships :D
Anubis
May 17th, 2004, 08:04 AM
The new President is great. Although it was a clip show, I still think it was a decent episode. I guess the big budget was for the Lost City and they had nothing left for episode 7.19 so they chose it to be a sort of review of the past seasons!
stargate barbie
May 17th, 2004, 03:39 PM
The new President is great. Although it was a clip show, I still think it was a decent episode. I guess the big budget was for the Lost City and they had nothing left for episode 7.19 so they chose it to be a sort of review of the past seasons!
yeah but that oval office set must have cost them. that was one amazing set, for a while there i thought maybe they had stolen the west wings set for a week. i was very impressed.
KorbenDirewolf
May 17th, 2004, 03:53 PM
I think I read somewhere that that set came from some movie or other.. Have to go try and remember where I saw it.
Manic
May 28th, 2004, 06:48 PM
One thing I found amusing was Kinsey's entire argument consisted of "these people barely saved the world over a dozen times, and I think it had nothing to do with skill." Also, his examples of Carter and O'Neill's feelings were some of the flimsiest (and most brief) examples I've seen.
Elwe Singollo
May 28th, 2004, 07:26 PM
I totally agree, if it someone else was 'barely saving the world', i think the world would have been over by now.
omnian
June 21st, 2004, 06:20 AM
I thought this was incredible. I was amazed that an episode that doesn't feature SG-1 could be so good! I love the new President :)
I also noticed that the Oval Office was the same one featured in X2, which coincidentally featured some Stargate actors! (Tanith for one....)
Crazedwraith
June 21st, 2004, 07:14 AM
I thought this was incredible. I was amazed that an episode that doesn't feature SG-1 could be so good! I love the new President :)
I also noticed that the Oval Office was the same one featured in X2, which coincidentally featured some Stargate actors! (Tanith for one....)
Tanith? As Stryker's right hand man? I've been wondering about thta for ages but couldn't see his name in the credits.
Mr Prophet
June 21st, 2004, 08:37 AM
Tanith? As Stryker's right hand man? I've been wondering about thta for ages but couldn't see his name in the credits.
I was thrown by the accent, but I suppose it makes sense that the Brit-doing-an-accent villain should have a Brit-doing-an-accent henchling.
Of course, Cox is Welsh so maybe Stryker's team are linked to the SGC...
Greesha
June 22nd, 2004, 04:55 AM
in general, imo, flashback eps suck. they're just a lame excuse for not writing a real story.
that said, this one was really good, for a flashback ep. it had a good plot and set up the story for "the lost city." i didn't like the fact that the president had a name & face, though; it thought it was better how they had done it all along with him just being "the president." but it was good how the clips were there for a reason other than the plot was too thin to stand without them.
Anubis
June 22nd, 2004, 10:15 AM
A good quality flashback episode because it was a good way to welcome the President and build up the lost city
Elwe Singollo
June 22nd, 2004, 10:20 AM
Grr... Woosley, i like his character, and the actor, i just didn't like how he was on Kinsey's side at the beginning (i'm assuming hes not at the end). All the reasons saying how "bad decisions", "wrong thing to go", i'm like, if it were some other people, sure they may have it done it the "correct" way, but might have died anyway because they went by the book, or something, but thats just my guess.
stargate barbie
June 23rd, 2004, 04:47 PM
in general, imo, flashback eps suck. they're just a lame excuse for not writing a real story.
that said, this one was really good, for a flashback ep. it had a good plot and set up the story for "the lost city." i didn't like the fact that the president had a name & face, though; it thought it was better how they had done it all along with him just being "the president." but it was good how the clips were there for a reason other than the plot was too thin to stand without them.
unfortunately clip shows are often a neccessary evil. some shows tend to abuse them, but stargate never really has. i've always found that stargates clip shows have a purpose and hence are generally quite enjoyable. they fill in an awful lot of exposition, while setting up for the mammoth episode that follows.
just as politics set up very nicely for the season one finale (and for the season to follow in a way), inauguration sets up brilliantly for the lost city, so much that i almost view inauguration, and lost city parts 1 & 2 as a three part episode.
Tok'Ra Hostess
July 8th, 2004, 07:41 AM
Maybe it was just my imagination, or the result of hanging around different forums/groups for too long, but, did anyone else get the sense that this ep was trying to send a message to the (so-named) anti-shippers in the online fandom?
I've read things written by disgruntled fans, things like, "what Sam and Jack are doing is against regulations." "They should be split up." "They are a danger to others in their unit, to the SGC, the planet, (heck, the whole galaxy)" etc. It has even been suggested that the show should be scraped because of its continued focus on ship.
Then you have Inauguration, and VP Kinsey. Nobody will deny that he plays a classic bad guy on the show. And where does Kinsey stand? He both wants the SGC scraped, and he accused Sam and Jack of having inappropriate feelings for each other.
Now, the new Prez doesn't see anything untoward about Sam and Jack having feelings for each other, and even by-the-numbers Woosley seems to have had his 'Ah hah' moment right after Kinsey brought up the whole feelings accusation.
I'm not saying I agree, or disagree with the whole Sam&Jack "issue" but I do wonder if the pro-ship PTB were using this ep to send a message....
greytop
July 8th, 2004, 08:45 AM
They could have feelings for each other just as long as it doesn't interfere with the missions they go on.
Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 08:02 AM
The best SG-1 clip show so far.
jeffa
July 14th, 2004, 08:51 AM
unfortunately clip shows are often a neccessary evil. some shows tend to abuse them, but stargate never really has. i've always found that stargates clip shows have a purpose and hence are generally quite enjoyable. they fill in an awful lot of exposition, while setting up for the mammoth episode that follows.
just as politics set up very nicely for the season one finale (and for the season to follow in a way), inauguration sets up brilliantly for the lost city, so much that i almost view inauguration, and lost city parts 1 & 2 as a three part episode.
Inauguration is true to what’s in part behind the success of SG-1. The producers never leave behind the growth for new viewers to jump in at anytime. I view the season 7 finale as a three-part episode.
Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:28 PM
I totally agree with that.
Genty
July 27th, 2004, 04:41 AM
Is that the end of Kinsey then??
Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 04:46 AM
*Spoilers, Lost City*
We see Kinsey again in Lost City and things happen..
Selmak
July 27th, 2004, 04:57 AM
wow... good spoiler "things happen"
Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 05:02 AM
lol Well, if s/he hasn't seen it then I won't spoil it. Nah, who's talking?
Spoilers, Lost City :
Kinsey returns in the office and goes to the SGC to go to the alpha site because of the attack on earth. Power is cut, he can't get away and he starts to panic. Then he moans at the Pres and gets fired! Mumahaaaaa!
Replicarter
August 15th, 2004, 08:43 AM
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I enjoyed this episode, I know it was a clip episode but i like the new president and enjoyed watching him find out about all this stuff that been happening that he never dreamed about.
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Anubis
August 15th, 2004, 08:47 AM
I enjoyed this episode, I know it was a clip episode but i like the new president and enjoyed watching him find out about all this stuff that been happening that he never dreamed about.
Hayes is a good man. I think he made some good decisions in Lost City and took the Stargate project in mind, very well indeed compared to what I though it would be like. At first, I though Hayes wouldn't be very serious at all but he is very serious and also seems to like a little joke at times, if events will allow it.
Replicarter
August 15th, 2004, 08:54 AM
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I agree, he’s very good at the job, would be very good at the real US president.
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Anubis
August 15th, 2004, 08:58 AM
I agree, he’s very good at the job, would be very good at the real US president.
I doubt he'd be a real US President, for a start he's an actor. Second, it's a tough job, well I'm guessing it is, not that I know from experience! :D
Replicarter
August 15th, 2004, 09:03 AM
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Yea I know he’s an actor, but quite frankly, I think anyone could do a better job than bush. Even you Anubis.
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SeaBee
August 22nd, 2004, 02:48 AM
Sorry, folks. This one did nothing for me. I don't, on the whole, like clip shows, and this one lost my attention quite quickly. I've tried watched it a couple of times, and find myself losing interest every time.
KorbenDirewolf
August 22nd, 2004, 04:14 PM
I doubt he'd be a real US President, for a start he's an actor. Second, it's a tough job, well I'm guessing it is, not that I know from experience! :D
Ronald Reagan was an actor.
SnakeHead
October 11th, 2004, 03:21 AM
It's, "The episode we had to have". Someone is bound to quote me on that one.
I also hate clip shows, but this one was bearable as it progressed the story and introduced a new character nicely. These last 4 episodes have really set the show up for an upheaval. Characters have been added and removed and the whole dynamics of the show can now be changed, i.e. new political environment, command structure, rules of engagement and anything operational like that can be revamped for the better or worst.
I personally have found these last 4 episodes a little slow and low impact but am forgivefull because I am assuming the team has been working hard on the final two eps which promise big effects, big story and new big technology. Cant wait for the airing of Lost City1/2 Wed/Thurs this week in Australia.
greytop
October 21st, 2004, 10:24 AM
Just finished watching it again.
People say they do not like clip shows but this one, IMHO and for the who series, they do it with a plot in mind. I was the best way to bring newcomers to the SG-1 and the new President up to speed with comings and going to the SGC.
Daniel's_twin
November 8th, 2004, 10:37 AM
I personally like clip shows. They started that trend with "Politics", continued it with "Out of Mind", stopped for a while, and started again I think with "Disclosure". I love these things. They allow you to see what's happened, as well as also usually giving a plot set-up. With this episode, this started their longest several-parter in their history I think. This led into Lost City pt 1 & 2 which led into New Order pt 1 & 2. Five parts! Definitely their longest. :cool:
Major Fischer
November 17th, 2004, 06:11 PM
I can almost forget that this is a clip show. It was a beautifully shot and scripted episode that makes a great prelude to Lost City. I really liked President Hayes and loved how I felt sympathy and even admiration for Woolsey by the end of it.
I hardly even noticed the clips, and they didn't seem to take up an inordinate amount of time and flowed nicely. Following TPTB's very deft use of a money saving tool in order to give us an amazing Episode to end out the season.
LMichelle
December 11th, 2004, 04:56 PM
That's strange. I thought I was watching Stargate and not The West Wing. :rolleyes: I hate clip shows, and while this was better than Disclosure (I know that's not saying much), I did find myself losing interest in this episode. I watch this show to see SG-1 go on missions, not politicians debate the validity of the program's continued existence. :rolleyes:
Erik Pasternak
December 12th, 2004, 04:24 PM
That's strange. I thought I was watching Stargate and not The West Wing. :rolleyes: I hate clip shows, and while this was better than Disclosure (I know that's not saying much), I did find myself losing interest in this episode. I watch this show to see SG-1 go on missions, not politicians debate the validity of the program's continued existence. :rolleyes:
This episode was only made because it was necessary to set up "Lost City." Judging it isn't fair, unless you judge "Lost City" at the same time.
PugGate
March 6th, 2005, 09:16 AM
As far as clip show go, this one was pretty good. I guess they needed an eoisode to lead up to the lost city.
Celsius
April 11th, 2005, 11:32 PM
I generally don't like clip shows at all, but this one surprised me. The clips seemed a lot shorter and more fluent with what was being discussed. I think it was interesting how the episode questioned just how stable SG-1 really are, and how they have got away with a lot that others would not have been able to. Good stuff, and a necessary episode even if it was boring in places.
ApophisOfTheStargateRealm
April 16th, 2005, 07:20 PM
i like the new president but i also had respect for kinsey...now i want to flush him and his puny brain down the drain. i hated wolsey aswell but now, i actualy like what he has done. i like how he always presents himself and tries to do his job.
good episode although i do miss the sg-1 team.......
Uber
April 16th, 2005, 10:14 PM
For a clips show I thought this episode was amazingly well done.
It had a great plot that drove the episode and the clips had a good reason for being shown.
It also helps to have an "all star" cast ;) And I love that they brought in that diskette from "Chain Reaction"
I also like how it set up Lost City...you could see the political wheels turning and what led up to Lost City and Hammond being relieved of command.
I like how Kinsey continued to prove what a power hungry idiot he truly is...and how he will NEVER get how serious the threat is. Okay, maybe after what happened to him in Season 8 he knows... :rolleyes:
I liked Woolsey's involvement...but then again, I'm a big Robert Picardo fan anyway. And I like them showing how disconcerted he was to learn that he was playing for the wrong team and his willingness to make things right and then of course the "Chain Reaction" connection.
I liked how they matter-of-factly discussed the inner workings of SG-1, Teal'c's brainwashing (Enemies), Daniel's hosting 12 alien entities (Lifeboat) and how they alluded to the interpersonal aspect of Sam and Jack - how smuggly Kinsey made sure the others could "read between the lines."
Which leads to the laying out of all the things that they've gone though individually over the last 7 years, from Sam hosting Jolinar and being taken over by who knows how may alien entities (and that was even BEFORE Lockdown), Jack retaining the knowledge of the Ancients (and that was even BEFORE Lost City 1 & 2) and all the other things they've endured.
President Hayes said it best when he pointed out how no one could on earth could even begin to understand what they've been through. I wish Hammond or someone from SG-1 could have been there to defend themselves to the new President though...
I'll admit that I agree with Woolsey to some extent...that perhaps it would be wise to move other people to the front lines, as there's only so much the human psyche can withstand. In real life, most people with high pressure jobs don't last long or are shifted around to relieve some of the burden, and SG-1's job is about as high pressure as it gets! I don't want to see them rotated out of the front position too quick, though...I'm looking forward to Sam having a real chance to be a kick butt team leader in Season 9.
line17
April 17th, 2005, 08:49 AM
That's strange. I thought I was watching Stargate and not The West Wing. :rolleyes: I watch this show to see SG-1 go on missions, not politicians debate the validity of the program's continued existence. :rolleyes:
Actually I like down to earth episodes. Prefur seeing things coming through the stargate to effect things on earth, rather than watching SG-1 go away on missions
Stricken
June 6th, 2005, 08:06 AM
Whoo clip show,
Makes you wonder what the seaosal finale would have been if lost city was a MOVIE
ApophisOfTheStargateRealm
June 22nd, 2005, 07:57 AM
this was not too focused on the SGC too much, i didnt like that but o well... for somthing completely based on other charectors, it was good...i liked the president :)
QuiGonJohn
June 24th, 2005, 05:02 AM
Not a big fan of clip shows, but once again Stargate does it pretty good. Many series clip shows are mostly all clips, they kept it down. I mostly liked the new Pres, but by the end was a little unsure of how he would proceed. Seemed he may not be inclined to leave it completely in the current SGC's hands, even though he's not fond of Kinsey.
Beatrice Otter
July 11th, 2005, 10:59 AM
This episode was only made because it was necessary to set up "Lost City." Judging it isn't fair, unless you judge "Lost City" at the same time.
I hadn't thought about it like that, but you're right. So much of the interactions in Lost City are set up in Inauguration--you don't get why Hayes and Kinsey are acting like that if you don't see Inauguration. And personally, I loved watching those two actors go at it, clips or no.
Commander Aegir
July 11th, 2005, 12:04 PM
Robert Picardo was excellent as the serious character instead of his funny light hearted character from Voyager which he also plays well as
one of the best clip shows of the entire show
zats
July 13th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Everything good or bad that I could say about this one, Nialla has on her Breadbox Edition of it. Here (http://www.stargate-sg1-solutions.com/episoderedux/breadbox/720bbe.shtml)'s
the link. Have fun. Cheers.
MIGater
July 31st, 2005, 08:51 AM
Hey what does the president mean anyways when he said "who's version of history Mr. Woosley."
Matt G
July 31st, 2005, 01:53 PM
Well they say "History's written by the winners". Hayes is just wondering who'll be writing the history books concerning the Stargate, supporters or him and SG1 or supporters of Kinsey?
L-JADE
July 31st, 2005, 05:51 PM
As a Clip-show goes, this is the best of all clip show in 8 season of SG-1.
IMHO it's a decent episode comparably to other episodes on any season. I like the interaction of Kinsey, Hayes & Woosley (and a bit of edgy-Hammond).
It shows that Hayes is not as 'soft' and indifferent as we would have thought of the previous President, makes him plausible for his action in Lost City.
And I really don't like Woosley in Heroes 2, but here he made a logical argument and respectable choice, and I kinda understand of why he'd done what he did in Heroes 2.
Kinsey is a weasel here as always, but Hammond shows some part of him that we seldom seen.
Qasim
August 2nd, 2005, 05:41 AM
It was a good episode I liked the fact that someone who is friends with Hammond is now in charge
I especially liked the flashback to disclosure:
THOR: Hello. I am Thor, Supreme Commander of the Asgard fleet.
KINSEY: Commander Thor, my name is ...
THOR: Senator Kinsey. O'Neill suggested I send you to a distant planet for your actions here but I am reasonably certain his statement was in jest.
KINSEY: I'm sure it was, Commander ...
THOR: (Putting his boney finger up) *Supreme* Commander. It is the opinion of the Asgard High Council that Stargate Command should be left in the very capable hands of General Hammond and his team. And while our continued friendship with Earth is not contingent on that, it is preferred.
I was overjoyed when Woolsey switched sides hopefully we will see a lot more of him
Chaka's_Mum
August 2nd, 2005, 10:55 PM
Kinsey's fab. He never gives up, does he?
He may be an evil old fart, but I always admire perseverance. :D
Qasim
August 3rd, 2005, 07:10 AM
He didnt seem to understand that its a good idea to show respect to the ASGARD SUPREME COMMANDER
Daniel's_twin
August 3rd, 2005, 09:16 AM
I don't think he has genuine respect for anyone except for No. 1. That's Kinsey. :cool:
zats
August 4th, 2005, 02:40 PM
Given what a mess he's made of himself (even the NID doesn't like him anymore, and that's about as low as you can go), I don't think he even respects himself. He just wants power.
Metarock Sam
September 22nd, 2005, 02:45 PM
I think I read somewhere that that set came from some movie or other.. Have to go try and remember where I saw it.
Looks very similar to the oval office set in X-Men 2.
dosed150
September 23rd, 2005, 08:47 AM
Looks very similar to the oval office set in X-Men 2.
it is exactly the same set as the one in xmen 2 and in both the secret service where shooting at a target that wasnt really there
Dark Falcon
July 24th, 2006, 05:55 PM
I actually liked this episode. It reminded me of the
movie Thirteen Days.
Tal'Mak_Josh
August 15th, 2006, 10:30 AM
Why, on the 'british SG1 mag and dvd collection' at least, why in the subtitles is maybourne called hacker and not maybourne?
Chaka's_Mum
August 16th, 2006, 04:04 AM
Given what a mess he's made of himself (even the NID doesn't like him anymore, and that's about as low as you can go), I don't think he even respects himself. He just wants power.
And wealth, I suspect. Lots and lots and lots of wealth. Just to see if money really can buy happiness.:cool:
Admiral Mappalazarou
August 25th, 2006, 05:24 AM
It was sort of a sequel to 'Disclosure' and I loved that one. Yeah so like always - Great Ep!!!:) :) :) :)
garhkal
March 6th, 2007, 09:15 PM
For a clips show I thought this episode was amazingly well done.
It had a great plot that drove the episode and the clips had a good reason for being shown.
It also helps to have an "all star" cast ;) And I love that they brought in that diskette from "Chain Reaction"
I loved the 'new' presidents face when he was being first briefed... "Your pulling one on me arn't you.."
BTW what chain reaction diskette??
President Hayes said it best when he pointed out how no one could on earth could even begin to understand what they've been through. I wish Hammond or someone from SG-1 could have been there to defend themselves to the new President though....
Yes he did.. and i loved him telling 'kinsey' lets give them the benefit of the doubt.
Mitchell82
March 23rd, 2007, 08:40 PM
I loved the 'new' presidents face when he was being first briefed... "Your pulling one on me arn't you.."
BTW what chain reaction diskette??
Yes he did.. and i loved him telling 'kinsey' lets give them the benefit of the doubt.
At the end of Chain Reaction Oneil stuffs a copy of the "incriminating" evidence on kinsey from his computer in his pocket, and thats the last we see of it till this ep. In this ep Woolsey goes to Hammond who gives him a copy and woolsey gives it to Hayes.
Chaka's_Mum
March 27th, 2007, 11:00 PM
At the end of Chain Reaction Oneil stuffs a copy of the "incriminating" evidence on kinsey from his computer in his pocket, and thats the last we see of it till this ep. In this ep Woolsey goes to Hammond who gives him a copy and woolsey gives it to Hayes.
I'd forgotten about that little time bomb myself until it rematerialised in this ep!
Interesting that it was powerful enough to get Kinsey to take the heat off Hammond and get him reinstated - but apparently not sufficient to deter him from his continuing efforts to get control of the Gate Programme.
Somehow, I doubt that he's forgotten they have it. I can only assume, then, that he has come to the assumption that they wouldn't dare risk exposing him (and his shady backers) in case they expose the entire Stargate Programme in the process. Now that would be messy.
Of course, Lord Henry of Hayes may well have the disk - but there isn't really a lot he can do about it. Well, not yet anyway...;)
Mitchell82
April 2nd, 2007, 08:01 PM
I'd forgotten about that little time bomb myself until it rematerialised in this ep!
Interesting that it was powerful enough to get Kinsey to take the heat off Hammond and get him reinstated - but apparently not sufficient to deter him from his continuing efforts to get control of the Gate Programme.
Somehow, I doubt that he's forgotten they have it. I can only assume, then, that he has come to the assumption that they wouldn't dare risk exposing him (and his shady backers) in case they expose the entire Stargate Programme in the process. Now that would be messy.
Of course, Lord Henry of Hayes may well have the disk - but there isn't really a lot he can do about it. Well, not yet anyway...;)
Kinsey is an arrogant SOB and wouldnt let that stop him and I love the banter between the Pres and Kinsey in Lost City.
Chaka's_Mum
April 3rd, 2007, 12:20 AM
Ooh, he is, isn't he? Not to mention a vile, backstabbing, power-hungry, social climbing, smarmy politico with not even the vaguest sense of personal integrity. Don'tcha just love him? :p
Mitchell82
April 3rd, 2007, 08:55 PM
Ooh, he is, isn't he? Not to mention a vile, backstabbing, power-hungry, social climbing, smarmy politico with not even the vaguest sense of personal integrity. Don'tcha just love him? :p
:indeed:
Two_L's
June 27th, 2007, 06:21 AM
One thing I found amusing was Kinsey's entire argument consisted of "these people barely saved the world over a dozen times, and I think it had nothing to do with skill." Also, his examples of Carter and O'Neill's feelings were some of the flimsiest (and most brief) examples I've seen.
I found Kinsey's argument that Carter and O'Neill had feelings for each other rather amusing and I got the impression that he only came up with that theory right then and there because he thought the president would be less than impressed about their 'inappropriate' feelings. Fortunately, he's argument was pretty bad. He barely convinced me and I'm a shipper. :p
Maybe it was just my imagination, or the result of hanging around different forums/groups for too long, but, did anyone else get the sense that this ep was trying to send a message to the (so-named) anti-shippers in the online fandom?
I'm not saying I agree, or disagree with the whole Sam&Jack "issue" but I do wonder if the pro-ship PTB were using this ep to send a message....
I also got the feeling that there was a subtle message being sent and that as Kinsey said, you just need to "read between the lines" to see their 'relationship' is there. ;)
I thought this was incredible. I was amazed that an episode that doesn't feature SG-1 could be so good! I love the new President :)
I've never liked clip shows, and when I realised this was one, I wasn't expecting much. However, I was very suprised that I really enjoyed this episode despite having two new faces mostly carrying the story. The new president is awesome and I'm glad to see Woolsey coming over to our side, albeit reluctantly. I didn't notice the clips too much and the plot was convincing and interesting. I have to agree with those who said it was the Best.Clip Show.Ever. :)
P-90_177
June 27th, 2007, 06:31 AM
sg-1 are always very good at clip shows. Look at politics. that had some of the best drama of season one and one of the best jack lines of all time in my opinion.
garhkal
June 28th, 2007, 05:12 AM
sg-1 are always very good at clip shows. Look at politics. that had some of the best drama of season one and one of the best jack lines of all time in my opinion.
Which was?
Chaka's_Mum
July 5th, 2007, 10:30 PM
One assumes it was either the one about the barbarians being at the gate...THAT one!!!
or the one about having a bake sale to run the Stargate Programme.
I personally like both of those, though the bake sale one is my favourite.
captain jake
July 6th, 2008, 04:57 AM
Not one of my favorite flashback episodes, however, it is interesting to watch how they keep thinking up different ways to make them.
MmmmMcKAy
July 20th, 2008, 03:44 PM
Geez, I hate clip shows. They're such a rip off. I basically just skipped through most of it.
SG1FanOregon
August 3rd, 2008, 07:33 PM
They couldn't have found a more perfect actor to be the President. The moment he showed his style of lighthearted humor & sarcasm I had a vision of a future scene with O'Neil & Pres. Hays together. OMG!! That would be a classic moment. I prayed for it til the series ended ::sigh::
Iawen
January 15th, 2009, 05:52 PM
I'm watching Inauguration right now, even though in general I'm not a fan of clips shows. (I agree with P-90 177 about Politics, though; it's my favorite of the clips shows.)
However, I do like to see the occasional glimpse of how the SGC is affected/affects the government and how different people see it differently. I hate Kinsey, but I love President Hays! I love that Kinsey completely underestimated him and that Hays was not only willing to give SGC personnel the benefit of the doubt but also could see what was really going on with the situation. I think that the writers accomplished what they wanted to in this episode and it was very well written!
I also like how this episode shows you that, underneath it all, Woolsey is actually a good man. This episode planted the seeds for me to like him.
suse
January 15th, 2009, 06:51 PM
I'm watching Inauguration right now, even though in general I'm not a fan of clips shows. (I agree with P-90 177 about Politics, though; it's my favorite of the clips shows.)
However, I do like to see the occasional glimpse of how the SGC is affected/affects the government and how different people see it differently. I hate Kinsey, but I love President Hays! I love that Kinsey completely underestimated him and that Hays was not only willing to give SGC personnel the benefit of the doubt but also could see what was really going on with the situation. I think that the writers accomplished what they wanted to in this episode and it was very well written!
I also like how this episode shows you that, underneath it all, Woolsey is actually a good man. This episode planted the seeds for me to like him.
/me lurves William Devane. He always does a great job. Yeah, I liked Woolsy too, at the end.
Alan Wake
January 21st, 2009, 03:53 PM
How funny for this episode to be shown today... but a good episode anyways. :)
Dinoman
June 15th, 2009, 11:11 PM
This may not be the best clip show but it does pave the way for the next episode (Lost City) for showing the underlying conflicts and history between Hayes and Kinsey.
es!
January 13th, 2010, 04:56 PM
I usually don't like bottom line episodes and episodes about politics. For an ep that combines both, Inauguration is a really decent one. I think I like this new president :)
mrscopterdoc
March 28th, 2010, 02:00 PM
It's a clip eppy what can you say? Will Kinsey just go away??? please!!!!!
suse
March 28th, 2010, 02:13 PM
I usually don't like bottom line episodes and episodes about politics. For an ep that combines both, Inauguration is a really decent one. I think I like this new president :)
I adore the William Devane. :D
FN-P90
March 28th, 2010, 02:14 PM
One of many good recap episodes. Also the actor who plays the president is great. I actually have seen the movie where he played John F. Kennedy, whom if you notice he looks right at the statue of Kennedy at the beginning.
maneth
November 1st, 2010, 11:01 AM
Great ep, even if I can't stand Kinsey. Political intrigue at its best.
chaapa-ai
November 5th, 2010, 03:14 PM
Ehh, clip show. I understand they do these periodically to catch up newer viewers but c'mon we're forced to watch them over and over again as fans to catch the wrapper story ;)
I like the casting for the Prez, and he offsets Kinsey well.
themyst
October 18th, 2011, 07:43 PM
I watched this one tonight. I really liked William Devane as the President, however, the whole show was done in the Oval Office with flashback clips. It really didn't hold my interest very well.
Lieutenant Sparrow
February 21st, 2012, 10:31 PM
Another recap ep. Good thing Stargate does them well. Kinsey is at his worst again.
The new president is pretty good. Wasn't sure about him at first because he didn't hate Kinsey.
Now we have Woolsey to hate.
Matt G
February 26th, 2012, 01:14 PM
Tuesday night and another ep of SG1 ...
1. Another clip show. Annoying but given what was to come you forgave them.
2. First impression of Hayes was pretty solid.
3. Woolsey starts to switch sides, interesting.
Allright for a clip show.
NowIWillDestroyAbydos
February 28th, 2012, 03:27 PM
A pretty good clipshow. I always think that SG-1 always did their clipshows well (unlike other shows). Each one (except the season 2 finale) had political importance (last year had disclosing the SGC to 4 other countries, this one disclosing the SGC to the new president).
I liked how the new president hoped everyone knew it was his first day. And the fact we actually saw a president of the US for once.
Tomorrow, the end of the season and the Lost City.
Krisz
February 28th, 2012, 06:42 PM
This one is a close second as my favourite clip show after 'Politics'.
Stargate uses clip shows really well, they drive the story onwards and are good refreshers whilst tacking the reminders onto a solid story line. This episode is a great example of that, showing us the new President and how he faces learning about the Stargate program.
William Devane is an actor I've liked watching in various things over the years, and he is just perfect as the President here. He brings a lovely down to Earth side to the man at the top, along with strength and fairness.
Kinsey the guy we all love to hate is back again with his continuing mission to discredit the SGC with Wolsey as his initially unwitting ally. I was glad to learn that Wolsey did have some integrity and acted on his belief in impartiality and fairness. Loved how he easily worked out how General Hammond would have some leverage against Kinsey. His asking for it and Hammond taking a chance on him was a satisfying moment, knowing Kinsey's days in politics would be numbered when the President acted on that information.
Jae'a
February 29th, 2012, 11:43 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/40637.html)
A clip show with a clip of another clip show, hmm... :P
jelgate
March 3rd, 2012, 02:29 PM
My rule about clip shows is if the story behind the clips is good. In this case it is. This episode is setting up for Lost City and it really works. While its no secret Kinsey is a snake in the grass this epiosde humanizes Woosley for me. In Heroes I thought of him as another NID scum. But this episode does a lot for Woosley in that he is a good person who stands for his beliefs. I may not agree with the guy's affliation but the way he stands up to the corruption of Kinsey speaks to the guy's ethics,. I also like Hayes. Why can't real politicians be that fair minded and unbiased when it comes to political situations.
garhkal
March 12th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Plus this clip show along with Disclosure also helped further the story.
Brother Freyr
April 13th, 2012, 07:28 PM
Like the new president. Love knowing that Kinsey's remaining days are numbered. Woolsey's redemption begins. SG-1 and (especially) Hammond's positions are in jeopary at the same time that the search for the Lost City should kick into high gear. Pretty good for a clip show.
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