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    Ori Ship Builders

    How did the relatively unadvanced, (late 1600's early 1700's), society build the Ori ships?
    They had no heavy manufacturing capabilities, no real technical skills neccesary to build them or the related facilities, electricity, foundries and mills of all sorts to support the construction project let alone the manpower to build those 4 monstrous ships.
    It would be like us going to a third world village and asking them to build 4 Nimitz class aircraft carriers.

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    Priors showed them how to.
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      #3
      Well, if the ORI can do *anything* they want in their 'own' galaxy then why not just use their ascended powers to just 'make' the ships
      *poooooof* 1 brand-new toilet ship

      However, i'm totally unsure if the Ori can do that.

      In which case:

      Well, if the ORI can do *anything* they want in their 'own' galaxy then why not just use their ascended powers to just 'make' the ships
      *poooooof* 1 brand-new toilet ship

      Even if the priors showed them how...they have none of the tools to necessary to build such an advanced ship...or build any mode of transport that doesn't involve a horse
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        #4
        Originally posted by deadman
        Priors showed them how to.
        Did the Priors also show them how to build steel mills, power plants, machine shops, possibly nuclear facilities or high energy labs, or the other thousands of ancillary facilities needed to build these ships?

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          #5
          I am getting tired of hearing the Ori can do anything they want to in their own galaxy. They can not, and that is ignorant to think they can.
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            #6
            You are missing the point.
            Priors or not, you cannot teach a chimp to solve a calculus problem.

            Religious based societies like the Ori are NON TECHNOLOGICAL. They are spiritual and not material or milateristic. Spirituality and prosylatizing activity is diametrically positioned to military aggression. The whole SG-1 program season Ori theme is seriously flawed.

            The fact that the Orei are shown commanding the most advanced and militarily powerful ships in the universe is a total oxymoronic violation of artistic license.

            The show has lost its guiding compass. With the loss of the original team, this show has continued to slide into oblivian. Be merciful, and pull the plug instead of spinning off more disastrous stargate shows. This is starting to stink of the Rodenberry curse.

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              #7
              Originally posted by skytop
              You are missing the point.
              Priors or not, you cannot teach a chimp to solve a calculus problem.

              Religious based societies like the Ori are NON TECHNOLOGICAL. They are spiritual and not material or milateristic. Spirituality and prosylatizing activity is diametrically positioned to military aggression. The whole SG-1 program season Ori theme is seriously flawed.

              The fact that the Orei are shown commanding the most advanced and militarily powerful ships in the universe is a total oxymoronic violation of artistic license.

              The show has lost its guiding compass. With the loss of the original team, this show has continued to slide into oblivian. Be merciful, and pull the plug instead of spinning off more disastrous stargate shows. This is starting to stink of the Rodenberry curse.

              Just a bit OTT, doncha think? Not to mention guilty of a faulty analogy. This is not equivelent of a Chimp learning calculus. A chimp does not have a sophisticated enough brain to understand calculus. They lack the intellect. The people of the Ori galaxy are not lacking in intellect, they are merely lacking in education. If they are educated in what to do and how to do it, they absolutely can learn it. They only need to be taught. You can't teach a chimp, because they are physiologically incapable of learning these things. They only difference between a technological man and a non-technological man is education. That's it. Do you honestly think that if you could bring Archimedes forward in time to modern day that he couldn't be taught rocketry? He'd probably grasp it fairly quickly, might even improve a few designs here and there.

              Oh... and historically speaking, many and bloody wars have been started over "spiritual" reasons. Look it up.

              The Ori storyline is, IMHO, a very much more mature one than the Goua'uld.
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                #8
                Nearly as silly as the Sodan making those personal cloaks from the writings of the Ancients...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IMForeman
                  Just a bit OTT, doncha think? Not to mention guilty of a faulty analogy. This is not equivelent of a Chimp learning calculus. A chimp does not have a sophisticated enough brain to understand calculus. They lack the intellect. The people of the Ori galaxy are not lacking in intellect, they are merely lacking in education. If they are educated in what to do and how to do it, they absolutely can learn it. They only need to be taught.
                  I totally feel where you're coming from here. And I couldn't agree more. Those people would be capable, with a lot of assistance from the Priors. Something I'm sure they readily received. Besides, people need to calm down a bit. This show has had a lot of illogical things happen over the years. It is, afterall, Science Fiction.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by skytop
                    You are missing the point.
                    Priors or not, you cannot teach a chimp to solve a calculus problem.

                    Religious based societies like the Ori are NON TECHNOLOGICAL. They are spiritual and not material or milateristic. Spirituality and prosylatizing activity is diametrically positioned to military aggression. The whole SG-1 program season Ori theme is seriously flawed.

                    The fact that the Orei are shown commanding the most advanced and militarily powerful ships in the universe is a total oxymoronic violation of artistic license.

                    A lot of wars, even religious ones, initiate progress. For example, new weapons are invented and such. I see no reason why the same can't apply on the show. The Priors came out and taught the people how to build new weapons to fight the enemy.



                    Also, I don't see concrete evidence that they don't have any machinery. Remember, the people live in 16th century homes... But that doesn't necessarily mean that the O'ri don't have technological things in place for situations like this. The populous is more likelily being kept primitive on purpose to prevent any kind of enlightenment.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by skytop
                      Religious based societies like the Ori are NON TECHNOLOGICAL. They are spiritual and not material or milateristic. Spirituality and prosylatizing activity is diametrically positioned to military aggression. The whole SG-1 program season Ori theme is seriously flawed.

                      The fact that the Orei are shown commanding the most advanced and militarily powerful ships in the universe is a total oxymoronic violation of artistic license.
                      Strange, i wonder what all those crusades in the middle ages where about then....

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                        #12
                        Well, I agree with the coment about being OTT

                        But also

                        We've seen two, only two planets in a galaxy that Vala herself has stated has more...for all we know some of these planets are industrial planets....dont take anything for granted.
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                        One was an experiment made to cause destruction in any condition except water, the other was an aquatic expermiment to destroy the world...but in the end...Stitch and Nim: They made an amazing Hula team

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                          #13
                          Remember that their is a reason why we only see Ori ships near the end of the season, because they needed all that time to get primtive followers to help in the construction of ships. And seriously, what makes the Ori followers any different from the Jaffa? The Jaffa were on a similar level of belief and were used by the Goa'uld to help in the construction of their ships. So basically the Jaffa are also unrealistic then if you consider that line of thinking because they are a primitive level in development yet constructed something as powerful as Goa'uld ships as the direction of Goa'uld.


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                            #14
                            I think maybe working the people to death so the Ori could make the deadline or some sort of mass movement with the Priors transfering knowleg into peoples heads so it would be a piece of cake for the people to bulid.

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                              #15
                              In real life the romans and the egyptians built buildings which could pass modern safty standards with accreacy that was not seen again till modern times which still stand, in generall people from more primative times would have better enginering skills pluse the priors and monks probaly built the more advanced systems in celestic(spelling?)

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