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mahram
March 12th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Does anybody have a wierd feeling the writers are going todo a babylon 5 ending to the series. Where near the end they have to find the other old races, just like babylon 5, to face the evil ori *shadow*. And then near the end, they have a crappy ending where all of the old races nox ,furlings, asgard, ancients, and ori decide to ascend beyond our relm. Just like in babylon5 :D

nano
March 12th, 2006, 05:42 PM
Dont think the writers ARE THAT LAME ;)

mahram
March 12th, 2006, 05:44 PM
lol but you have to admit that would be a convient way but abeit lame. It satisfies the old viewers clamouring to end the ancient alliance theme, and ends the ori storyline. Its a rather simple ending.

Dont think the writers ARE THAT LAME ;)

AGateFan
March 12th, 2006, 05:51 PM
lol but you have to admit that would be a convient way but abeit lame. It satisfies the old viewers clamouring to end the ancient alliance theme, and ends the ori storyline. Its a rather simple ending.

Who is clamouring to end the ancient alliance theme? I dont think I have heard anyone asking for that. I have only heard people asking for more detail on the 4 race allience. Though I have heard people ask for the Ori to just go away permanently.

I dont think Stargate could go that rode. The Stargate Universe is far different from the B5 universe. What made the B5 universe great will mostly not fit in the Stargate Universe. Also B5 did not "end" with the end of the shadow war so when I first read your thread I thought you were talking about the billion years into the future thing or even the 20 years into the future last ep, neither of which the TPTB of Stargate would be capable of pulling off.

mahram
March 12th, 2006, 06:03 PM
I consider that the end of the babylon 5 storyline. But you need an ending for sg1 right not the stargate theme. Since atlantis would presumably still run after sg1 is cancelled. Its a diffrent universe but they could follow that roadmap. They have the sg1 people looking for the first ones, I mean ancient alliance, *harkoning back to the first few season*, and then big battle seasons, * harkoning to the midseasons*, and then a dramatic ending, where all the first ones * I mean older races* leave our plane of existence. Everybody wins. You have the ancient alliance, furlings, nox, asgard, and wrapping up the orii storyline. And maybe you could throw in rda.


Who is clamouring to end the ancient alliance theme? I dont think I have heard anyone asking for that. I have only heard people asking for more detail on the 4 race allience. Though I have heard people ask for the Ori to just go away permanently.

I dont think Stargate could go that rode. The Stargate Universe is far different from the B5 universe. What made the B5 universe great will mostly not fit in the Stargate Universe. Also B5 did not "end" with the end of the shadow war so when I first read your thread I thought you were talking about the billion years into the future thing or even the 20 years into the future last ep, neither of which the TPTB of Stargate would be capable of pulling off.

the fifth man
March 12th, 2006, 08:07 PM
I don't think SG-1 will copy the ending of Babylon 5. TPTB will come up with their own way to end this show. One day, hopefully years from now.:D

Darkstar
March 13th, 2006, 05:59 AM
the ending speculated will in my view end up being the forging of a new alliance that relates to the ancient alliance betwen the ancients, nox,asgard and furlings, all of which may be seen by the very end leaving the people of earth aware of the stargate program aliens and space travel.

after fiasco of exposing it to earth it will end with the glimmer of hope that would most likely be picked up for say i dunno a movie or another series set after it or in a future where it takes on a new approch not seen before

HirogenGater
March 13th, 2006, 04:52 PM
I don't see many parallels between the two. When the time comes I think the writers will come great way to end the show.

deadman
March 13th, 2006, 05:19 PM
It'll end the way the writers have been hinting at for years, we become the 5th Race, disclose the Stargate Program and become the most powerful race in the Milky Way Galaxy.

Tempest_Wales
March 14th, 2006, 09:50 AM
the ending speculated will in my view end up being the forging of a new alliance that relates to the ancient alliance betwen the ancients, nox,asgard and furlings, all of which may be seen by the very end leaving the people of earth aware of the stargate program aliens and space travel.

after fiasco of exposing it to earth it will end with the glimmer of hope that would most likely be picked up for say i dunno a movie or another series set after it or in a future where it takes on a new approch not seen before

Isnt that more like the end of Enterprise than anything? (Although that episode whas a huge disappointment).

I personally believe the only good way for SG1 to go out is with a movie.

tsn81
March 14th, 2006, 10:05 AM
I dont really see SG-1 or any Stargate series to end like B5 which was one long story with definite end. I'm more seeing it to go out like Star Trek with no end in sight as long as series stay interesting.

mahram
March 14th, 2006, 10:36 PM
well the end of startrek tng was a montage back to the beginning right. Where they revisited the past and the future. Kinda of like what b5 did. I think it would be nice to bring everything to a dramatic conclusion. Bring back rda, the ancient alliance storyline, and somehow finish off the ori. And then allow atlantis to travel along themselves. Sometimes bringing back some sg1 storylines and themes, but making atlantis their own finally.


I dont really see SG-1 or any Stargate series to end like B5 which was one long story with definite end. I'm more seeing it to go out like Star Trek with no end in sight as long as series stay interesting.

Hatcheter
March 15th, 2006, 03:36 AM
Are you talking about Stargate SG-1, or Stargate as a franchise? I for one fully expect SG-1 to end before Atlantis does. And TPTB have indicated that they hope for more in this franchise. So SG-1's ending can't be a be-all end-all of the franchise, and can't do anything that would upset the balance in Atlantis too much.

KRiZ
March 15th, 2006, 06:49 AM
Does anybody have a wierd feeling the writers are going todo a babylon 5 ending to the series. Where near the end they have to find the other old races, just like babylon 5, to face the evil ori *shadow*. And then near the end, they have a crappy ending where all of the old races nox ,furlings, asgard, ancients, and ori decide to ascend beyond our relm. Just like in babylon5 :D

Thats not how B5 ended...

Thats the middle of the 4th series, there is a B5 section to gateworld mebbe you should check it sometime...

B5 ends with the decommissioning of the station and the Death of Sheridan, Strachzynski is the one who throws the switch to turn the station off...

thats almost 40 episodes after the "ending" you gave...

mahram
March 15th, 2006, 06:25 PM
I dont consider the last season as the actual ending of b5. It seemed like a carry over, especially with the new captain, and going into a whole diffrent route with the psi war thing. The 4th season I would consider the actual end, which wrapped up everything from the movie, to old ones, and all that jazz.


Thats not how B5 ended...

Thats the middle of the 4th series, there is a B5 section to gateworld mebbe you should check it sometime...

B5 ends with the decommissioning of the station and the Death of Sheridan, Strachzynski is the one who throws the switch to turn the station off...

thats almost 40 episodes after the "ending" you gave...

mahram
March 15th, 2006, 06:27 PM
Im talking about sg1. I completely think 100% this is the last season. With the move of bsg, and the whole talk about budgets and cutting costs, I think this is the end. Especially since the ratings are high but not high enought. and i really think they want to make movies. come on RDA is getting up there, and I think the rest of group want to start families.



Are you talking about Stargate SG-1, or Stargate as a franchise? I for one fully expect SG-1 to end before Atlantis does. And TPTB have indicated that they hope for more in this franchise. So SG-1's ending can't be a be-all end-all of the franchise, and can't do anything that would upset the balance in Atlantis too much.

the fifth man
March 15th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Im talking about sg1. I completely think 100% this is the last season. With the move of bsg, and the whole talk about budgets and cutting costs, I think this is the end. Especially since the ratings are high but not high enought. and i really think they want to make movies. come on RDA is getting up there, and I think the rest of group want to start families.

You see, that's where I disagree. I don't think this coming season will be it for SG-1. This show is still profitable, and I don't see the Sci-Fi channel cutting it loose. SGA and BSG's ratings haven't been too solid as of late either. So I don't think that will be the issue. Personally, I think SG-1 still has a lot of good stories left to tell. Besides, I don't think Sci-Fi will have anything anywhere near as good to replace it with.

mahram
March 16th, 2006, 09:31 AM
Thats what I mean to. For relatively new shows, the costs are way cheaper then older shows. Not only do you have to pay the cast more, you have to pay the crew more. I think we will find out if this is the end, near the beginning of summer. Also I think its mostly not scifi channels fault, and your right ratings are good not great but good. But I think this has todo with more budget constraints at NBC, then scifi. Its just the ripple effects from nbc that is hurting scifi channel. Scifi and PTB at sg1 will probably start giving the heads up, and start making preparations to end the series. and dont you think it makes sense. You have michael shanks, already itching to star in shows like csi, more drama less scifi, you have amanda tapping having kids,and you have chris judge itching to star in other shows. And mostly you have NBC wanting to make movies. They could finally start focusing on atlantis and making it their prime stargate theme show.


You see, that's where I disagree. I don't think this coming season will be it for SG-1. This show is still profitable, and I don't see the Sci-Fi channel cutting it loose. SGA and BSG's ratings haven't been too solid as of late either. So I don't think that will be the issue. Personally, I think SG-1 still has a lot of good stories left to tell. Besides, I don't think Sci-Fi will have anything anywhere near as good to replace it with.

Astrofighter
March 16th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Well I hate to break it to you but the end of the 4th season ended with the end of the Earth civil war, which had nothing to do with the older races. The episode you speak of is 406, which is the end of the shadow war and where all the races come together. There were 16 more episodes left in season 4...you call that an ending? No....also your view on the ending of the series doesnt really matter because it wasnt really the end. Using your logic I could just say that the end of SG1 was at the end of season 8 and your entire argument is meaningless...Except for the thing about it not being over in the people that actually have a say in it.

The Alterans, the Nox, the Furlings and the Asgard have been wolven into SG1 canon since the 1st season. Each one has come out before and been a part in the ever evolving story line. Why is it such a stretch that they may come into play in the future?