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harlen
March 7th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Hey stargate fans..Its been nine seasons we've been watching this great show. Theres always been parts which I've felt kinda sucked or other words impossible. A team of four have taken on an empire who ruled the galaxy for thousands of years and basically beat them hands down over and over. Not once did we see this supposed powerful ememy show off their power. The series has made the goa'uld a toothless ememy. The jaffa and goa'uld motherships are also joke. A member of sg1 can take on a mothership with no backup.

If the sgc is so powerful, how come the sgc dont even rule their entire planet. or better the galaxy. Or go the ori galaxy and wipe them out and ask the people in that galaxy to serve them.

Is the ori going to be another toothless ememy?? or are they going to at least injure a member of the sgc or the planet earth

deadman
March 7th, 2006, 02:30 PM
you really haven't been watching the show at all

Peoples_General
March 7th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Hey stargate fans..Its been nine seasons we've been watching this great show. Theres always been parts which I've felt kinda sucked or other words impossible. A team of four have taken on an empire who ruled the galaxy for thousands of years and basically beat them hands down over and over. Not once did we see this supposed powerful ememy show off their power. The series has made the goa'uld a toothless ememy. The jaffa and goa'uld motherships are also joke. A member of sg1 can take on a mothership with no backup.

If the sgc is so powerful, how come the sgc dont even rule their entire planet. or better the galaxy. Or go the ori galaxy and wipe them out and ask the people in that galaxy to serve them.

Ummm... NO! This is not what the SGC stands for. They're about protecting Earth and liberating others from:
parasitic snakes (Goa'uld)
metallic Legos (Replicators)
RoboSapiens (Asurans)
fire-gods (Ori)
and space-vampires (Wraith)

LORD MONK
March 7th, 2006, 02:34 PM
Hey stargate fans..Its been nine seasons we've been watching this great show. Theres always been parts which I've felt kinda sucked or other words impossible. A team of four have taken on an empire who ruled the galaxy for thousands of years and basically beat them hands down over and over. Not once did we see this supposed powerful ememy show off their power. The series has made the goa'uld a toothless ememy. The jaffa and goa'uld motherships are also joke. A member of sg1 can take on a mothership with no backup.

If the sgc is so powerful, how come the sgc dont even rule their entire planet. or better the galaxy. Or go the ori galaxy and wipe them out and ask the people in that galaxy to serve them.
We do rule the Planet. It's just a seperate division that does that. The SGC stands for Stargate Command, not Homeworld Command.

We have barely won for nine years. If the Ha'Taks are so useless then why can't our Ships blow them up. And if we are so high and mighty then why did we run from the LA. If we were in an Asgard ship they would have ran.
O'ya, and we didn't beat the Replicators and Qua'uld. The Qua'uld as wiped out by the Replicators and then a Gua'uld and a Tok'Ra and Asgard wiped out the Replicators with the help from good old Sam.

So to end this. the SGC isn't runing the Galaxy and we aren't almighty.

LORD MONK
March 7th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Is the ori going to be another toothless ememy?? or are they going to at least injure a member of the sgc or the planet earth
They already have done more damage to Earth then the Qua'uld.
Remember them releasing a plaque on Earth killing thousands. What more do you want?

They have also lost our first spaceship to the Ori.

Peoples_General
March 7th, 2006, 02:40 PM
Is the ori going to be another toothless ememy?? or are they going to at least injure a member of the sgc or the planet earth

Watch "Camelot" this coming Friday and see just how "toothless" the Ori are. :rolleyes:

We beat those toothless Ori sooo badly! It was like a wooden raft -vs- a US Navy Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier....

LORD MONK
March 7th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Watch "Camelot" this coming Friday and see just how "toothless" the Ori are. :rolleyes:

We beat those toothless Ori sooo badly! It was like a wooden raft -vs- a US Navy Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier....
I think he hasn't seen season 9 yet. He has only read spoilers or something.

Peoples_General
March 7th, 2006, 03:33 PM
I think he hasn't seen season 9 yet. He has only read spoilers or something.

If he has, he should've read the ones about how we always loose to the Ori everytime we meet them. And the only success we've had was killing Cancer-man Prior. Gerak killed the Prior-Plague, so that wasn't really Earth's victory.

harlen
March 7th, 2006, 08:10 PM
Ha ha ha ha....I've watched season nine and I have to say Im disappointed with the Ori..they're another toothless ememy. if theres hundreds of worlds out there, let them at least destroy a few of them, so we the viewers can see the real power of the ori. I hope their warriors arent a joke like the jaffa.

HirogenGater
March 7th, 2006, 09:56 PM
It would be funny to see the SGC become like the Empire, but that will never happen.

the fifth man
March 7th, 2006, 10:54 PM
They already have done more damage to Earth then the Qua'uld.
Remember them releasing a plaque on Earth killing thousands. What more do you want?

They have also lost our first spaceship to the Ori.

Agreed! The Ori are far from "toothless". They have already proved what a huge threat they are.

eri-chan
March 7th, 2006, 11:10 PM
agreed...

but we always know that sg1 will save the day.. in the long run. do you want to see them utterly destroyed before you say that any enemy earth faces is toothless?

what would make the enemies of earth more threatening to you?


remember janet was killed by any jaffa serving some goa'uld, martouf died because he became a zatarc (sp?), kowalski died after he became a goa'uld, gerrak(sp?) gets killed by the ori after becoming a prior, replicarter killed daniel, not to mention the time where all of sg1 died in the nox, where jack was killed time and time again by ba'al in abyss, need i go on?

PG15
March 7th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Ha ha ha ha....I've watched season nine and I have to say Im disappointed with the Ori..they're another toothless ememy. if theres hundreds of worlds out there, let them at least destroy a few of them, so we the viewers can see the real power of the ori. I hope their warriors arent a joke like the jaffa.

They destroyed a world in Beachhead, and it was all caused by one Prior.

They've also:

Leveled a planet (Babylon)
Almost killed off the Human Race (The Fourth Horseman)
Gave technology to the Rand, which resulted in the destruction of the Prometheus, and Tegulis as a whole (Ethon)
Killed off the Sodan (Arthur's Mantle)
Destroyed the Gamma Site (The Scourge)
Destablized the Free Jaffa Nation, almost resulting in civil war (The Fourth Horseman)

Oh, lookee, let's take a look at all the episodes that featured the Ori or their effects, with the bolded ones showing the episodes where they did damage:

Avalon Part 2
Origin
The Powers that Be
Beachhead
Babylon
The Fourth Horseman Part 1
The Fourth Horseman Part 2
Ethon
The Scourge
Arthur's Mantle
Crusade

Not bad, eh? And without steping foot in this galaxy (not including Priors).

Mattathias2.0
March 8th, 2006, 02:49 PM
They destroyed a world in Beachhead, and it was all caused by one Prior.

They've also:

Leveled a planet (Babylon)
Almost killed off the Human Race (The Fourth Horseman)
Gave technology to the Rand, which resulted in the destruction of the Prometheus, and Tegulis as a whole (Ethon)
Killed off the Sodan (Arthur's Mantle)
Destroyed the Gamma Site (The Scourge)
Destablized the Free Jaffa Nation, almost resulting in civil war (The Fourth Horseman)

Oh, lookee, let's take a look at all the episodes that featured the Ori or their effects, with the bolded ones showing the episodes where they did damage:

Avalon Part 2
Origin
The Powers that Be
Beachhead
Babylon
The Fourth Horseman Part 1
The Fourth Horseman Part 2
Ethon
The Scourge
Arthur's Mantle
Crusade

Not bad, eh? And without steping foot in this galaxy (not including Priors).

I'd also like to add that Vala stated in Crusade (like Daniel did during the first half of this season) that we knew the Priors were only the First Wave...

Next is the Followers.

The Final is the Ori themselves (Orlin mentioned something about that ;)).

As far as "toothless"... Far from it. I don't recall the Goa'uld ever doing this much damage in a single year...

Mattathias

Chutzpah
March 8th, 2006, 03:31 PM
And don't forget the good fortune of having various 'i win' Ancient weapons dotted around the place which, fortunatly we figure out how to use in a couple of hours.

harlen
March 8th, 2006, 05:53 PM
You guys make an excellent point, but until the ori come in ships or through the stargate and kill billions. They'll be a toothless ememy. Another joke like the jaffa.

All those episodes you mention, the ori were beaten easily by sg1. Which makes them toothless. No power in this galaxy..or any other galaxy.

PG15
March 8th, 2006, 06:47 PM
If it's ships you want, it's ships you'll get. Keep watching.

The only episodes where SG1 beat the Ori are Beachhead (which still resulted in a world being destroyed), TFH (which really doesn't count since Gerak, and not SG1 helped them)...isn't that it?

Ok look, you can make blanket arguments all you want. Give me some evidence to support what you're saying.

Peoples_General
March 9th, 2006, 01:00 AM
You guys make an excellent point, but until the ori come in ships or through the stargate and kill billions. They'll be a toothless ememy. Another joke like the jaffa.

All those episodes you mention, the ori were beaten easily by sg1. Which makes them toothless. No power in this galaxy..or any other galaxy.

Really.... if you have a TV, cable, and a couch... sit and watch the episode Camelot.

Ori were beaten easily? What are you smoking? In 'Ethon' there was absolutely no "beating the Ori". :rolleyes:

I think we have Troll here....

Scyld
March 9th, 2006, 04:03 AM
You guys make an excellent point, but until the ori come in ships or through the stargate and kill billions. They'll be a toothless ememy. Another joke like the jaffa.

All those episodes you mention, the ori were beaten easily by sg1. Which makes them toothless. No power in this galaxy..or any other galaxy.

RAAAAAAAAARGH! I LIVE UNDER BRIDGES! I EAT GOATS!

MarshAngel
March 9th, 2006, 05:46 AM
You guys make an excellent point, but until the ori come in ships or through the stargate and kill billions. They'll be a toothless ememy. Another joke like the jaffa.

Most planets aren't as heavily populated as Earth, so if the Priors wiped one of them out, and they have done this, only a few hundred/thousand would die. The mistake TPTB have made is not showing the carnage, just mentioning it. If they hear a planet has been infected by an Ori plague there's little point to go there anyway, they can't do anything but risk their own lives for no gain.


Earth doesn't have contact with ALL planets. it's safe to assume that at least one has accepted Origin and as a result are not dead, or they didn't and are dead and we just don't know about it.

the real question is what is the damage threshold needed to be convinced they are a threat? Thousands have already died. The priors don't blow things up... why would you when you can use the infastructure after you conquer? They don't really want to kill everyone, they want to convert. Only if they fail to do so will they start with the slaughter... and it seems that's coming soon enough.

zpm!!
March 9th, 2006, 06:59 AM
Hey stargate fans..Its been nine seasons we've been watching this great show. Theres always been parts which I've felt kinda sucked or other words impossible. A team of four have taken on an empire who ruled the galaxy for thousands of years and basically beat them hands down over and over. Not once did we see this supposed powerful ememy show off their power. The series has made the goa'uld a toothless ememy. The jaffa and goa'uld motherships are also joke. A member of sg1 can take on a mothership with no backup.

If the sgc is so powerful, how come the sgc dont even rule their entire planet. or better the galaxy. Or go the ori galaxy and wipe them out and ask the people in that galaxy to serve them.

Is the ori going to be another toothless ememy?? or are they going to at least injure a member of the sgc or the planet earth
i can tell that u have only watched 1 esp., the sci-fi lowdown.!!!!!!!!!!!

zpm!!
March 9th, 2006, 07:00 AM
Ummm... NO! This is not what the SGC stands for. They're about protecting Earth and liberating others from:
parasitic snakes (Goa'uld)
metallic Legos (Replicators)
RoboSapiens (Asurans)
fire-gods (Ori)
and space-vampires (Wraith)
u forgot the aschen!!

FallenAngelII
March 9th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Ha ha ha ha....I've watched season nine and I have to say Im disappointed with the Ori..they're another toothless ememy. if theres hundreds of worlds out there, let them at least destroy a few of them, so we the viewers can see the real power of the ori. I hope their warriors arent a joke like the jaffa.

Obviously you haven't been watching the same season 9 as we have. The Ori HAVE destroyed entire worlds in the Milky Way. We've even seen them do it (Beach Head)!

As for the destruction of the Gamma Site, that was the work of the (possible) Prior Bugs. Which wouldn't have made their way there had we not brought them there. So they weren't really directly responsible.

Cherriey
March 9th, 2006, 08:54 AM
metallic Legos (Replicators)

lol Well said! lol =0)

NakedJehutyV2
March 9th, 2006, 03:21 PM
nope it was the combined efforts of asgard, tokra, tollan, alterran knowledge, rebel jaffa and replicators that beat the goauld. to a lesser extent earth.

harlen
March 10th, 2006, 08:02 PM
Finally...we see little power from the ori in 9/20...now the sgc is in for a fight.

NakedJehutyV2
March 10th, 2006, 08:23 PM
not just SGC. the known universe

kruegersc4
March 10th, 2006, 09:46 PM
If you want terrible defeats with a brand new cast every episode, watch re runs of of the Twilight Zone. Almost every time SG1 has won, it's been just by a hair. Nobody wants to see a main cast member die suddenly, and that's why in almost every show you watch, the good guys always win in the end.

eri-chan
March 10th, 2006, 10:49 PM
If you want terrible defeats with a brand new cast every episode, watch re runs of of the Twilight Zone. Almost every time SG1 has won, it's been just by a hair. Nobody wants to see a main cast member die suddenly, and that's why in almost every show you watch, the good guys always win in the end.

amen

Peoples_General
March 11th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Finally...we see little power from the ori in 9/20...now the sgc is in for a fight.:rolleyes: