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Mirel
February 28th, 2006, 08:19 AM
According to the spoilers, the Lantean's left Pegasus Galaxy, and back on Earth, they only found primitive societies.
My question is, what happened to the advanced Ancients left behind in the MW, when the others left to Pegasus?

Blitz
February 28th, 2006, 08:33 AM
They died....probably when they dakara boomed the galaxy to get rid of the plague...

Ancient: "Bye bye plague...damn it. Bye Bye life...ohhh I'm a glowing squid!!!"

The Signal
February 28th, 2006, 08:36 AM
I didnt think they used the Dakara weapon on the plague, when was this said? They repopulated life with the device AFTER the plague, but there is no evidence (IRC) to say they used it before, anyway, it says in the spoiler what happened, some seeded life, others meditated in order to reach ascension, those that seeded life died out, and because they seeded life we have the ancient gene.

Eoin
February 28th, 2006, 08:45 AM
I didnt think they used the Dakara weapon on the plague, when was this said? They repopulated life with the device AFTER the plague, but there is no evidence (IRC) to say they used it before, anyway, it says in the spoiler what happened, some seeded life, others meditated in order to reach ascension, those that seeded life died out, and because they seeded life we have the ancient gene.
I think it was said that they destroyed all life in the galaxy and then recreated it because of the plague :)

The Signal
February 28th, 2006, 08:47 AM
I think it was said that they destroyed all life in the galaxy and then recreated it because of the plague :)
An episode, Jim/Anubis in threads says that all life was wiped out by the plague, and the device respawned life, which is why it was ironic that it was about to be used to kill everything.

Kelt'ar
February 28th, 2006, 09:22 AM
An episode, Jim/Anubis in threads says that all life was wiped out by the plague, and the device respawned life, which is why it was ironic that it was about to be used to kill everything.

Well all the oaf had to do was reverse the process.

Prior_of_the_Ori
February 28th, 2006, 10:41 AM
They either died or ascended. Though I think the Ancient Gene came into the human race because of the Atlantean Ancients when they came back.

RobJones
February 28th, 2006, 11:30 AM
they went to a galaxy far far away to do battle with new enemies. they are now known as... THE JEDI!!! :jack_new_anime05:

newtrekker
February 28th, 2006, 11:44 AM
They either died or ascended. Though I think the Ancient Gene came into the human race because of the Atlantean Ancients when they came back.

Yeah, true. So they must have used the Dakara weapon while they were in Pegasus.

Cherriey
February 28th, 2006, 01:13 PM
So the Dakara weapon is well traveled? I'd like to see the tow line attatched to that baby! =0)

walterIsTheMan
February 28th, 2006, 01:15 PM
I don't think there really were any left here in the MW after the plague. I think all of the ones who were left went to Pegasus, or they returned home to their home galaxy. Remember, the MW is not the home galaxy of the Alterrans.

Cherriey
February 28th, 2006, 01:42 PM
There had to be a few at least. Otherwise we wouldn't have had that 'amazing find' in 'Frozen'.

Lonewolf
March 1st, 2006, 06:55 AM
I believe most were wiped out, resettled other places like Pegasus, and the rest ascended. I don’t think they ever said what happened to most of them I think its all of the above.

the fifth man
March 1st, 2006, 06:14 PM
What happened to them? No one knows for sure. But maybe we'll get lucky enough for TPTB to answer this for us next season.

Lexx
March 2nd, 2006, 09:28 PM
Most likely the ones that stayed behind in Milky Way either ascended or were killed by the plague.

I've been thinking though, what if Atlantis wasn't the only city-ship sent out? I'm just assuming here, but I've always entertained the thought that Atlantis left for Pegasus as a backup in case the plague did indeed wipe out the majority of the Alteran civilization in Milky Way. That way there'd be an outpost of the civilization where it continued to live and thrive. Then they could come back one day and start over again in Milky Way if all the rest had died there. Now, under that assumption, wouldn't it make sense to send out more than group? Maybe another group of uninfected Alterans left for another galaxy in the same way the Atlanteans did. I can see the next spin-off already: Stargate - Ancients in Andromeda!

NakedJehutyV2
March 3rd, 2006, 10:50 AM
either died or ascended

Aither
March 3rd, 2006, 11:30 AM
About the weapon on Dakara, I do not think the Ancients used it to kill. Another function of this "weapon" is creating life. And there is no reason to be compelled to kill before creating life.

And I believe the plague hit them before they left Earth to go to Pegasus (Ayiana was on Earth at the time when Atlantis left Earth).

Dannygirl
March 4th, 2006, 10:32 AM
From the looks of it, there was more of an answer to that in this season 10 epi. Seeding other ancient civilizations I think was one of the other explanations given. Exactly what does this mean?

Others went into seclusion, to meditate, no doubt to ascend.

While other stayed on Earth and advanced us. Though they might have advanced us, there's no reason to think they didn't ascend later on. After all, Merlin/Moros did.

We know Janus built another time machine, so what happened to him? He left the machine 300 years ago on that planet for the others to find which means he was around 300 years ago, so what did he do after that?

Also, Melia, seen in the hologram saying that they all returned to Earth and lived out the rest of their lives. Interesting that she used past tense for this when it hadn't even happened yet.

Yes, though they have a strick non-interference policy, it's quite obvious they've interfered at varing points.

metroid
March 4th, 2006, 10:35 AM
Ayana was infected with the plague afaik.
She infected the others but she could cure them (except for O'neill)

Makes me wonder why the ancients didn't just cure eachother rather than fleeing the galaxy and lots of them dying.

Prior_of_the_Ori
March 4th, 2006, 04:48 PM
Because they would reinfect people...she could not stop the plague which was in her system so she would reinfect them again I think,

ZPM_Plant
March 5th, 2006, 12:18 PM
How did Ayiana end up frozen in the arctic anyway?

Moreover, how did she last for 3 million years?

The ancients in "Aurora" couldn't last 10,000 years, let alone 3 million years, in high tech stasis tubes. Are you going to tell me good old ice is more effective than high tech stasis tubes?

I think the ancients in the MW were different in some significant way than those remaining in the Pegasus galaxy 10,000 years ago.

Prior_of_the_Ori
March 5th, 2006, 01:50 PM
Its entirely possible that the Ancient Atlanteans devolved and lost their long life spans which would explain why Ayiana survived in stasis when the other Atlanteans could not. Speculation.

deltsigpun
March 6th, 2006, 10:13 AM
Also, Melia, seen in the hologram saying that they all returned to Earth and lived out the rest of their lives. Interesting that she used past tense for this when it hadn't even happened yet.

Yes, though they have a strick non-interference policy, it's quite obvious they've interfered at varing points.[/QUOTE]

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Melia turns out to be a current ascended ancient, not a hologram, thus she knows what has happened to the acients that returned to earth

Dannygirl
March 8th, 2006, 08:14 PM
*Spoiler* ---Is she suppose to be the one Daniel and Vala enounter in the Pegasus Project in S. 10? That would be cool.---

As for the Ancients not curing each other, perhaps it has to do with physiology. For some reason, I remember something about Frasier or someone mentioning that our makeup is a lot less complex because we're so primitive, so perhaps it would be much easier to cure us than themselves.

As for her age compared to the Aurora Ancients, I had an issue with that as well. As Prior said, perhaps they did devolve, perhaps by mating with the humans they created. They could've paired themselves up with the less advanced humans which could account for the devolutition(?) of their kind. After all, 10 million years is a long time, and a ship full of people isn't enough to rebuild a society w/o some interbreeding. They would've needed new blood.