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    The Tok"ra taking power

    First lets talk about the Tok'ra, they're goa'uld and they too have snakes in their heads. They dont have any jaffa or let alone an army of any kind. So lets hope that the story writers change a few things about the tok'ra who are suppose to be earth's friends and allies. Now that most of the system lords are no longer around and supposedly dead. The galaxy is open for the tok'ra to claim as their own. They broke off from the rest of the goa'uld 2000 years ago. They've been in hiding all this time on their own secret planets, sending out spies to spy on the goa'uld empire, gathering goa'uld secrets. So what Im trying to say here is the tok'ra are goa'uld who apposed Ra and the system lords because they themselves wanted to rule the galaxy.
    They've been building their own fleet of hatak's, and the information of the super solider that anbuis created. Im sure the tok'ra got their hands on it through jacob carter, who was out of the loop with the high council. Who didnt want carter to find their real agenda. Claim power after the system lords are defeated.

    So lets hope that writers change the storyline of the tok'ra. They're goa'uld after all. They want to rule the galaxy themselves.
    Last edited by harlen; 18 February 2006, 11:45 AM.

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    A grand entrance for the tok'ra in season ten would be. Lets say that the ori's fleet is kicking the crap out of the free jaffa nation's fleet over some planet thats in jaffa control. Then all of sudden the tok'ra fleet arrives to destroy the ori fleet just in time before all the jaffa are destroyed. The tok'ra inform the jaffa that in their the service of a goa'uld named ______.. They ask the jaffa to serve them once more or face desruction of all current jaffa in the galaxy.

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      Some humans want to start war, does that mean we all want to?
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        #4
        The Tok'Ra are a dying race, they wouldn't manage it, even if they did want to. Besides, the Jaffa now hate both the Tok'Ra and the Goa'uld.
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          #5
          Maybe the Tok'Ra come back to hook up with Ba'al.
          Spoiler:
          Ba'al's cloning tech could be used to replenish the Tok'Ra ranks.

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            #6
            Originally posted by harlen
            A grand entrance for the tok'ra in season ten would be. Lets say that the ori's fleet is kicking the crap out of the free jaffa nation's fleet over some planet thats in jaffa control. Then all of sudden the tok'ra fleet arrives to destroy the ori fleet just in time before all the jaffa are destroyed. The tok'ra inform the jaffa that in their the service of a goa'uld named ______.. They ask the jaffa to serve them once more or face desruction of all current jaffa in the galaxy.
            Umm what? The Jaffa aren't in the service of any Go'uld anymore. This puppet master Go'uld should remain in your imagination. The Tok'ra also have had no infrastructure to develop a fleet and their technology may lag that of the Go'uld because they didn't start off with the genetic memories of the Go'uld. Lastly, they'd first need to focus on more pressing matters in quest for survival such as finding a supply of hosts. If the Ori don't threaten the Tok'ra directly, it's possible that they'd ignore the Ori because of more pressing concerns such as rebuilding the empire as stated in season 2. They simply may not care anymore what happens to humans as long as it's not their kind doing it to humans.

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              #7
              Originally posted by DetriusXii
              Umm what? The Jaffa aren't in the service of any Go'uld anymore. This puppet master Go'uld should remain in your imagination. The Tok'ra also have had no infrastructure to develop a fleet and their technology may lag that of the Go'uld because they didn't start off with the genetic memories of the Go'uld. Lastly, they'd first need to focus on more pressing matters in quest for survival such as finding a supply of hosts. If the Ori don't threaten the Tok'ra directly, it's possible that they'd ignore the Ori because of more pressing concerns such as rebuilding the empire as stated in season 2. They simply may not care anymore what happens to humans as long as it's not their kind doing it to humans.
              This is very likely. The Tok'ra have existed for so long as near fugitives that they might not have any interest in the idea of forming this large and massive empire that the Goa'uld made and could be content to remain quiet and behind the scences. Plus you would need a large pool of people to build something as an empire which the Tok'ra cannot. They have no queen and every loss they sustain is a bitter blow. They don't use the sarcophagus (there was the idea of creating a better one from the ancient device that telchak had but nothing was heard of this again) so their lives arnt as extended. The Goa'ulds domination of the galaxy has made many bitter of the Tok'ra so a reduced source of gaining hosts. The life of a tok'ra is a long and hard one and not sure where there future lies to be honest.


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                #8
                I think it is not possible for Tok'ra to take the power .

                the Tok'ra is kind, and they are different from the Goa'uld ,although they
                are the same race.

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                  #9
                  I don't get why the Tok'Ra would want to take over anything!? From where did you get this?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by baal.ex
                    I don't get why the Tok'Ra would want to take over anything!? From where did you get this?
                    The Tok'ra spent nearly two thousand years fighting the Gua'uld without any help. They knew that when the Gua'uld were defeated there would be a power vacume and for nearly two thousand years the Tok'ra were the only ones in a position to fill that vacume. A Tok'ra rulled galaxy probly would have been a good place to live, certainly better that under the Gua'uld, but suddenly, Earth and the Jaffa join the war and bring it to an end in just eight years. Whatever plans the Tok'ra had for the galaxy after the Gua'uld were defeated are useless. Earth and the Jaffa are now in far better position to fill the vacume left by the Gua'uld than the Tok'ra, leaving any plans the Tok'ra made for the post Gua'uld galaxy useless.

                    Though we've heard some of what the Tok'ra are now up to, helping us monitor Prior activity, it's possible some members of the Tok'ra were looking forward to being in power and may make a move to take it from the Jaffa and Earth. Though it'll probly be only a small number of Tok'ra, and the rest may well help put an end to whatever plans these few would make.

                    This would make for some good stories to tell in S10 or beyond.

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                      #11
                      Ok, so you made that up. I thought the writers want to do something like this.
                      I personally don't like the idea. Why should they do this? They have no need for might 'n stuff.

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                        #12
                        It does sound uncharacteristic of the Tok'ra, I mean they have demonstrated no desire to rule as the Goa'uld did. I personally see them remaining more isolationist and in a way they would want it as such. They had fought for so long I think perhaps they might deserve some rest.


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                          #13
                          I think turning the Tok'ra into bad guys would be a very bad idea.

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                            #14
                            I dont think any of you are getting the point Im trying to point out. The tok'ra are goa'uld, we all know that part. But what Im trying to say here is, goa'uld is a goa'uld. Maybe the tok'ra were a bunch underlords who were sick of serving Ra, and wanted change in the galaxy at the time. Since most of the system lords served under Ra. They apposed this group of underlords who wanted change. Since this bunch of underlords didnt have a huge army. They had no choice but to go into hiding.

                            Now that Ra and the system lords are no longer in power and control of the galaxy. The tok'ra are free to take the galaxy, 2000 years of preparing to overthrow the system lords. They must at least have a plan of some sort.

                            Yes I came up with this myself, it didnt come from the writers.

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                              #15
                              We have seen again and again theTokra refusal to take a host against its will. They even helped save the world that held their Queen prisoner. And that Queen died because she refused to use the Sarcophagus. Major Carter saw into the mind of Jolinar,and saw Good, not Evil. A lot of time was spent in previous seasons developing the Tokra as good. It would be a tragedy and a major plot hole for the current writers to throw all of that away. That being said, I wouldn't necessarily put it past TPTB to do something like that. Bad stuff like that has ruined other great Sci-Fi series in their final seasons. It would be a cheap and easy way to come up with a story or two. But it would not only ruin whatever season it was done in, but would retroactively ruin every previous season in which the Tokra played a part. I would definately lke to see more of the Tokra again, but definately not as part of a "they had a secret evil agenda all along" type of a plotline.

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