What's up with YU? Spoilers S8 premiere

[Scarym1]

After watching the season 8 premiere, I got the distinct impression that there is more going with YU then it appears. His storyline can't be a straight forward as it seems. When the system lords are talking about Baal and YU says that Anubis is getting too powerful, everyone thinks he is senile. I think he may know something.

Would it be interesting if YU was faking it or maybe he first prime was doing something to YU so that he can get control of YU fleet or maybe even the two of them are working together to pull off this deception? Even tho Daniel said that you can't trust any of the System Lords, they do trust YU a little. I think everybody is underestimating YU because of his "condition". I am hoping that he will turn out to be not such a nice guy after all. I want to see him become the worst of the bunch. They would be concentrating so much on BAAL & ANUBIS that they don't see the real threat(YU) is right in front of them. It could be nasty.

What do you guys think?

[VirtualCLD]

Watch Lockdown this Friday night, maybe it will deal with what you are talking about.

[Anubis]

I'm sure the next episode being Lockdown will deal with your questions!

[Markey2]

I think the idea of Yu being Senile is a great idea. His character has such an interesting persona and it's interesting how his (Lou'tar/First Prime?) Covers it up. I wan't to see more of it, like his forces becoming unstable or something else really cool. I can't wait to see Lockdown

[aschen]

I'm pretty sure Anubis is dead...unless by some unfortunate means he found away to ascend...again... That's highly unlikely though, and I'm sure the ascended Ancients sure wouldn't put up with his evil ass again.

Therein lies why the Goa'uld are so pety- they're more self-centered and egotistical than humans are!

Ok then, back on topic. It's very well possible that either his Lou'tar is poisoning him in some matter. If Yu is really losing it, he should probably get a new host...and fast!

[VirtualCLD]

Supposedly, according to Jackson, Yu has lost the ability to take a new host. The symbri.... parasite itself is getting senile.

[Replicarter]

I's it possible that the chemicle that DJ pricked YU with in Summit had these long term effects? just a theory. :rolleyes:

[uknesvuinng]

I's it possible that the chemicle that DJ pricked YU with in Summit had these long term effects? just a theory. :rolleyes:
It's possible the chemical causes a bad reaction in Goa'uld. The only other Goa'uld we've seen "pricked" was Osiris, and he's been removed from Sarah now.

[Mio]

It's possible the chemical causes a bad reaction in Goa'uld. The only other Goa'uld we've seen "pricked" was Osiris, and he's been removed from Sarah now.
It could have caused Yu, since he was so old, to start to break down. Osiris was in stasis for a few thousand years, so he had the advantage of being a bit younger.

[aschen]

Supposedly, according to Jackson, Yu has lost the ability to take a new host. The symbri.... parasite itself is getting senile.Well it would have to be that the parasite would go senile...whether the host went senile or not would be irrelevant. I'm pretty sure Yu hasn't changed hosts since dynastic China...that's a very VERY long time ago.

I bet he knew Confucious! ;)

[Racer1441]

I think the idea of Yu being Senile is a great idea. His character has such an interesting persona and it's interesting how his (Lou'tar/First Prime?) Covers it up. I wan't to see more of it, like his forces becoming unstable or something else really cool. I can't wait to see Lockdown

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What if they combine that with the whole idea of YU's forces with the idea that was advanced in the season starter. What if YU finally dies because of old age and his forces, thanks to the first prime, dedicate themselves to the SGC. The idea was kind of raised when the SGC wanted to be a 'system lord'. Yu's first prime could make up some type of story about Yu's passing and that it's his will that they join with the SGC to destroy all the 'unworthy', IE, the other system lords.

[Janus]

If Yu is going insane, then why doesn't own of his sub-lords just kill him and take over ?

[aschen]

Because they think he's a god. lol.

[VirtualCLD]

Yeah, a senile god, but still a god... who's n@$%ing f#ts...

[Lugal]

Yu's first prime is basically running his empire now. If Yu dies he may convince most of Yu's Jaffa to join the Jaffa resistance.

[Anubis]

Yeah, his first prime is good for all the stuff he does. One of the best first primes I have seen!

[Elwe Singollo]

Yu's first prime is basically running his empire now. If Yu dies he may convince most of Yu's Jaffa to join the Jaffa resistance.Unless Oshu becomes his own little 'rebel jaffa' leader, and has Yu's army be his, that'll be interesting :rolleyes:

[Anubis]

Yeah, that would be cool. Oshu will be his own 'God'

[Elwe Singollo]

I wouldn't want Oshu to become all 'system lord' -ish, i would want him to have his own rebel empire, but not 'combined' with the other rebels, or allied to the System-Lords, i mean, since Oshu now has a hint that system lords aren't God's, i think he would be a good leader anyways, haha...

[Anubis]

I agree, would be great. His own empire! lol

[VixyOwl (~~Ani)]

Yes, he's a great first prime. That he knows the fallibility of Yu, yet still wishes to serve is his key motivation. So it'd be interesting if he decides to shift support to the Jaffa resistance. It's not likely he'd want to serve another Goa'uld...

And I'd be very surprised if Yu were more complex than we've seen--I think he's a batty old Goa'uld, who's amazingly lucky not to have been defeated yet.

But I *like* the idea of his senility covering something! I'd just be surprised if that's the way the show plays out.

[Anubis]

Oshu does great because he does his job as well as everything else!

[Elwe Singollo]

But we don't know if Oshu has skills in making big decisions, if they are bad or not, because it seems he sitll does everything that Lord Yu tells him to do, so yah, maybe the next time we see them, we'll actually see a little bit of that, or maybe not :(

[Anubis]

True, but from what we've seen he looks worthy!

[Elwe Singollo]

But does worthy automatically mean hes absolutely equipped for the role? Well if it does, than yay :D

[Markey2]

Spoilers About the Jaffa thinking Yu's still God,









I think If I remember correctly, in the Season 7 two parter when they're on Yu's ship either Oshu or O'neill says something to another Jaffa about Yu not being right and that Jaffa pronounces all the brain-washed pants about he's our God don't dissobey him yada yada.

I think using his Senility to cover something up is an amazing idea, and Oshu is one hell of a good First Prime, even taking control of Yu's fleet. Oh and one last thing, I think the idea of Daniel causing the problems with that drug he gave Yu is a fantabulous idea!

[Elwe Singollo]

That would be a good twist if the drug did something bad to him?! I would love it.

[Anubis]

lol The drug he had would be funny, he went all hyper or something! lol I could imagine it now

[MagnoliaAnaglypta]

Ok then, back on topic. It's very well possible that either his Lou'tar is poisoning him in some matter. If Yu is really losing it, he should probably get a new host...and fast!
I don't think that Oshu is poisoning him.... from Fallen/Homecoming I got the impression that he was an extremely honourable man who felt great loyalty towards Yu and was very distressed by what had happened to his master.

It's a very interesting situation though, Oshu is now effectively not Yu's first prime but his Regent. Yu has managed to avoid being beaten by both Anubis and by Ba'al. I wonder how much of this supposed tactical brilliance is actually down to Oshu?

[MagnoliaAnaglypta]

I's it possible that the chemicle that DJ pricked YU with in Summit had these long term effects? just a theory. :rolleyes:
It's a thought I've had too. It seems like something that should be investigated because it would be a very effective weapon - one wonders what effect it might have on the host?

[Anubis]

I do think that whilst going against some things he certainly does care for his God, not just as a God but as a friend

[Janus]

Why can't they just have a queen spawn a 'blanc slate' like in 'Cure' and then transfer Yu's mind into it ?

[Raider Red]

The more Yu the better...he's always ben one of my favorite System Lords.

[VirtualCLD]

How do you transfer Yu's mind to it? And what queen has been spawning the Goa'uld lately? Or was that already explained in Summit?

[Anubis]

Yu is great, my second fav system lord

[Giantevilhead]

Where did you people get the name Oshu from? Oshu is a Japanese name while Yu and his empire are based on Chinese culture.

[Jar'ac]

I think that YU has some history with Anubis, seems to realize that he is more powerful than the others realize and more cunning, he shall yet find a way to exact revenge. Watch out General O'Neil :S

[Janus]

How do you transfer Yu's mind to it? And what queen has been spawning the Goa'uld lately? Or was that already explained in Summit?

Any female Goa'uld can turn herself into a queen (I think), so getting a queen shouldn't be that hard.

They would have to transfer his mind through some kind of EM-field.

[Janus]

I think that YU has some history with Anubis, seems to realize that he is more powerful than the others realize and more cunning, he shall yet find a way to exact revenge. Watch out General O'Neil :S

Maybe they are family, brothers or something like that.

[Rusk]

It would be a funny twist if it was discovered the Tok'ra drug Daniel gave Yu was the cause of his senility. I doubt his First Prime would be very friendly toward Earth if they found out the truth.

[Anubis]

I agree. But who's to find out Yu was given this drug!

[Nolamom]

It would appear that Yu wasn't the only Goa'uld unhappy with the food...
http://publish.hometown.aol.com/nolamom/images/luke%20and%20amateratsu.gif

[Anubis]

That picture doesn't seem to work!

[Torley]

HAHA... Amapouty's going crazy!!! Guess we won't be seeing her as a judge on Iron Chef anytime soon either.

I'm a big fan of Yu too... YUGE fan of YU, as Donald Trump might say.

Oshu does seem honorable, but he has his own ways. Remember he said: "...and nothing my Master says can be trusted!" or something to that effect ;)

[Nolamom]

Anubis - it's working fine for me. If you still cannot see it, try this link...
Luke serving dinner (http://publish.hometown.aol.com/nolamom/images/luke%20and%20amateratsu.gif)

[Iki-Ryo]

After watching the season 8 premiere, I got the distinct impression that there is more going with YU then it appears. His storyline can't be a straight forward as it seems. When the system lords are talking about Baal and YU says that Anubis is getting too powerful, everyone thinks he is senile. I think he may know something.

Would it be interesting if YU was faking it or maybe he first prime was doing something to YU so that he can get control of YU fleet or maybe even the two of them are working together to pull off this deception? Even tho Daniel said that you can't trust any of the System Lords, they do trust YU a little. I think everybody is underestimating YU because of his "condition". I am hoping that he will turn out to be not such a nice guy after all. I want to see him become the worst of the bunch. They would be concentrating so much on BAAL & ANUBIS that they don't see the real threat(YU) is right in front of them. It could be nasty.

What do you guys think?


OK im not one for rampant speculation, i think its really useless, i like taking the facts we know from the show, Yu is the Least Evil System lord, even on earth his reign as emperor of China WAs prosperous and he was responsible for many progressive movments, His first Prime seems loyal and dedicated to his master for all the right reasons, yes he is a system lord but he's never really been evil, he hasnt abused his host or his ability to take new hosts. IM willing to bet the people in his empire live in similar prosperity as those in china did. He has been against Anubis for thousnads of years, and essentially been his greatest enemy. Now he is too old his symbiot to imbedded in his host to leave with out killing them both. He appears senile but obviously knows something others do not, seems to sense Anubis, anubis was and is regaining strength otherwise he would still be haunting the wreckage of his ship probably somewhat incoherant, im guessing having his sheild destroyed in that malestrom did weaken his essence. Yu knew this, i dont think it was basicaly him being a senile old ******* and forgetting Baal was the problem at the moment. Yu may be on deaths doorstep, but he may also be on the cusp of Ascension.

[Anubis]

Yeah, the link seems fine now! Thanks! lol