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    Originally posted by ses110
    Yes just what we need another Man Friend for Sam.Even if Sam does not get involved with him that's less time for Sam to be with Jack.I lost track but I think this is man number 1,422 that Jack must fight of before he gets to Sam.Let's bring back Joe Orlin Narim Martouf and McKay while were at it.
    LOL! I know you're very serious here and you are absolutely RIGHT!! It's beginning to get ridiculous (sp?)! One guy after another and low and behold--they've ALL dated Sam--what are PTB trying to portray her as, her own escort service? I'm starting to wonder! As for all her others--hopefully they're all still dead! And McKay is being shipped off to another galaxy! All that's left is Felger and hopefully his lab assistant is keeping him busy!

    Originally posted by ses110
    Spoilers for Season 7 "Heroes" and "Chimera"
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    I may be wrong on this but if TPTB think after Janet dying and almost losing Jack again that Sam would just go back to Pete they just do not know the Sam character.If Friends dying and Jack almost dying does not get Sam and Jack together I wonder what event does get them together.I'am glad that Jack has been so supportive of Sam but how much does Jack have to take before Sam gets a clue.Everyone's Patience has a limit and I cannot believe Jack's has not lost his.Jack must remember the old saying nice guys finnish last.
    Again--I'm with you! Poor Jack! When is enough going to be enough and he finally loses it! With all they've been through, you have to wonder what it will ACTUALLY take. It's getting a bit out of hand. PTB are raising the stakes so high that they are setting themselves up for "Deus Ex Machina"--and there is very little that irritates me more than that type of ending! It's like "Ooooh, how deep can we dig this hole we're in before something magically changes everything?" and endings like that are just not as satisfying!
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      That's an awesome fanfic! It was one of the first I read and got me hooked on fanfic. Which, in retrospect, might not have been such a good thing. I sometimes lose track of what happened on the show and what I read and wanted to happen on the show. :-)
      I still miss Jack and Sam

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        Originally posted by mjj1993
        That's an awesome fanfic! It was one of the first I read and got me hooked on fanfic. Which, in retrospect, might not have been such a good thing. I sometimes lose track of what happened on the show and what I read and wanted to happen on the show. :-)
        LOL--me too! It's so easy sometimes to ascribe fanfic experiences to the characters! I love that fanfic! Of those that I've read, it's in my top two! I just thought it was a clever plot!
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          Originally posted by Token
          Healthy, normal relationships may not be interesting (however I would like to know what one looks like), but they aren't written as the front story. As in "Hart to Hart", "MacMillian & Wife", and don't forget the "Thin Man" movies, the mystery was the focus and the love was just there. Maybe that only works for mystries and not SciFi.
          Exactly! I loved the Thin Man movies. They were together, they loved each other, it was apparent but it was not the primary focus of the show--the mystery was the focus. Why can't SciFi figure that out?


          Also I can't remember who wrote the post but someone mentioned that the regs are deliberately vague and somewhat elastic--well, if this is so then technically they wouldn't be breaking the regs, would they? It doesn't explicity state "air force officers under no circumstancts may become romantically involved" does it? I just think this whole reg thing and we'd lose respect for them line is an easy way for TPTB to string us along and pacify the antishippers at the same time.

          Maybe I'm shallow and selfish but I NEED to see Sam & Jack together. It's gone way beyond want, I NEED IT! And I'm just going to imitate my two-year old and lie prostrate on the floor kicking my legs and crying if I don't get it! (and soon, did I mention soon?)

          <sorry for the long rant--but I'm really feeling pessimistic right now>
          I still miss Jack and Sam

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            Originally posted by mjj1993
            Oh, I don't know after all this time "knock her down and jump her bones gateroom sex" wouldn't be so bad, would it?
            well when I said the first time I was trying to be a bit funny...but hey if TPTB want to take the idea and run with it
            far be from me to stop them
            Life is short, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And live out loud with no regrets..

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              What's the other one? Mine is Sally Reeves' Something Worth Hiding.
              I still miss Jack and Sam

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                LOL! Hey, I'm with you!
                I still miss Jack and Sam

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                  Originally posted by Token
                  As in "Hart to Hart", "MacMillian & Wife", and don't forget the "Thin Man" movies, the mystery was the focus and the love was just there. Maybe that only works for mystries and not SciFi.
                  I think it could be done, though, just that way. We don't need to see Sam and Jack in bed to know they're together, and all it would mean to the regular science-fiction storyline is that they might openly show a bit more caring when one or the other is in trouble, and they might go to the same tent/house (off world or on) at night than different ones. Do they really think that it needs to be *all* about Samandjack for there to be a resolved relationship?
                  - Mary
                  SG1 needs it's Fifth Man - Why should we settle for less? Bring back Jonas Quinn!
                  Jack O'Neill would die for any member of his team. But there's only one he'd live for: Samantha Carter.

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                    Marimba how could I forget Felger.I guess it's easy to forget with So many Man Friends.I'am sorry but one Hathor is plenty.I guess Hathor never really Died.I never though there was a problem with the Sam character but I guess I was wrong.I'am all for a character growing and changing a bit but This is not what I had in mind.While I was watching Chimera I kept asking myself who is this character in regards to Sam.The Early Season 8 spoilers are also making me ask myself what show is this.I never though I'd say this but Season 8 is the first Season I do not mind waiting for.After Lost City I though that would be impossible.

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                      I just wanted to let you all know I really appreciate the optimisim and humor running through the thread today. I was really depressed yesterday about ship and where it is going in the show. I received my Stargate books I had ordered in the mail and, even though they were written a couple of years ago, the attitude of the actors about the Sam and Jack relationship was really disheartening. I won't go into details here since I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any positive comments from the actors that showed they supported the progression of ship in the show.

                      I really needed to log on to the thread yesterday for moral support, but my stupid computer wouldn't let me. I'm going to watch some of Marimba and Caty's videos to cheer me up for now.
                      Tasha
                      JSDT's Sam and Jack Support Site


                      Thank you, Nikkirose!

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                        Originally posted by marimba26
                        That is a good question Sally. I like your scenario and to use it as a jumping off point to answer your question--IMO it would have to be something pretty drastic. Like them getting tortured/killed (and revived) in front of each other. I think it would take something VERY awful--considering what they've already been through. I read a fanfic like this called "A New Life" by Brenna. I think they were sold into slavery. It's really good but I think illustrates the point. Here's the link for those interested.

                        http://mywebpages.comcast.net/tkeefer6/index.html
                        Marimba, thank you for posting that link. I just finished reading A New Life. I had no idea that it was more of a novella as opposed to the shorter fanfics I’ve stumbled across, but WOW. I started reading at about 6:30 this evening and couldn’t stop! 2 hours later, I’m stunned at what an incredibly professional job she did. It was a detailed, descriptive, well paced, exciting, nicely plotted, (running out of adjectives) piece of fiction. And fantastic SF(ship factor) too!! I always determine how good a book (or short story) is by how well I can “see” the action and dialogue in my mind’s eye. Well, THIS SHOULD BE AN SG1 EPISODE!! I truly saw all of the scenes, and reacted as one would if they were visually experiencing it. I lost count of the number of times I said, “wow, oh wow”

                        TPTB could do a LOT worse than to hire this author.

                        Diana

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                          Originally posted by JSDT
                          I received my Stargate books I had ordered in the mail and, even though they were written a couple of years ago, the attitude of the actors about the Sam and Jack relationship was really disheartening.
                          Okay, I have to ask: What books? and What did they say?
                          ~BCM =)

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                            Originally posted by marimba26
                            LOL! I know you're very serious here and you are absolutely RIGHT!! It's beginning to get ridiculous (sp?)! One guy after another and low and behold--they've ALL dated Sam--what are PTB trying to portray her as, her own escort service? I'm starting to wonder! As for all her others--hopefully they're all still dead! And McKay is being shipped off to another galaxy! All that's left is Felger and hopefully his lab assistant is keeping him busy!
                            And don't forget that lieutenant...was his name Simmons? Another conquest to add to Sam's List of Love Slaves.
                            Tasha
                            JSDT's Sam and Jack Support Site


                            Thank you, Nikkirose!

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                              Originally posted by JSDT
                              I just wanted to let you all know I really appreciate the optimisim and humor running through the thread today. I was really depressed yesterday about ship and where it is going in the show. I received my Stargate books I had ordered in the mail and, even though they were written a couple of years ago, the attitude of the actors about the Sam and Jack relationship was really disheartening. I won't go into details here since I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any positive comments from the actors that showed they supported the progression of ship in the show.

                              I really needed to log on to the thread yesterday for moral support, but my stupid computer wouldn't let me. I'm going to watch some of Marimba and Caty's videos to cheer me up for now.
                              I agree; I also had been feeling pessimistic about our fav twosome lately. Fanfic, music vids and my dvd collection have cheered me up significantly.
                              Grab some of Nana's cookies, take a slug from a (preferably) fermented beverage of your choice, and check out the RDA drool thread. If THAT doesn't get you smiling, you might need prescription meds
                              Diana

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                                Originally posted by bcmilco
                                Okay, I have to ask: What books? and What did they say?
                                Okay, BCM, you just want to depress me again, don't you? Well, I'll tell you and then you give your usual logical reasoning and make me feel better okay?

                                The books are the illustrated companions by Thomasina Gibson.

                                Under the ep guide for "Divide and Conquer" they basically said they wanted to address the issue and put it to rest. They also said Amanda and Rick wanted to end it to because they were tired of trying work around that arc.

                                "2010":

                                Amanda Tapping says she thinks it's great that Carter moved on with someone other than Jack. During the cabin scene, Jack was supposed to leave her standing there, but she convinced people to let her do it since she had moved on and needed to leave again.

                                These are the main ones and I know it's silly to let this upset me, but I didn't realize the actors felt this way.

                                I didn't want to quote the book directly, because I wasn't sure if I could get into trouble. If I have done something wrong, I'm sorry...just let me know and I'll edit this.
                                Tasha
                                JSDT's Sam and Jack Support Site


                                Thank you, Nikkirose!

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