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freyr's mother
February 12th, 2006, 03:54 PM
This is kind of related to the 2nd ZPM what should we do with it thread in the Science and Tech forum.

IMO If they get a ZPM in S10 i believe it should be strictly for the use of Earth and Stargate Command. It SHOULD NOT BE SHIPPED OFF TO ATLANTIS. That would just make the following seasons horrible.

Any thoughts?

Xanderic
February 12th, 2006, 04:34 PM
where would you suggest them to find one? Go back in time and resteal Ra's ZPM? I don't think that would work a second time.

Antimatter Sam
February 12th, 2006, 04:40 PM
What ever happened to the homemade ZPM O'niell made?
It still worked after they went to the alternate universe thru the mirror to help defend that Earth so why not just make more of them?
Or would this be too easy of a way to get power for Antartica, Atlantis, the various ships we've built, etc., etc.,etc..

Xanderic
February 12th, 2006, 05:00 PM
What ever happened to the homemade ZPM O'niell made?
It still worked after they went to the alternate universe thru the mirror to help defend that Earth so why not just make more of them?
Or would this be too easy of a way to get power for Antartica, Atlantis, the various ships we've built, etc., etc.,etc..
#1. Jack had the Ancient repository of Knowledge in his head
#2. That power gen was almost depleted by dialing to the Asguard's Ida Galaxy
#3. The power gen was depleted after the alternate universe thing
#4. We don't know how Jack made it.

freyr's mother
February 12th, 2006, 05:12 PM
where would you suggest them to find one? Go back in time and resteal Ra's ZPM? I don't think that would work a second time.

They could do a hybrid episode of Ripple Effect and Mobieus. Go into alternate universe w/time jumper. Go back in time and steal Ra's ZPM.

Xanderic
February 12th, 2006, 05:21 PM
They could do a hybrid episode of Ripple Effect and Mobieus. Go into alternate universe w/time jumper. Go back in time and steal Ra's ZPM.
then they would have to refine the Moebius plan since they were stuck in Ra's time in Moebius.

Giantevilhead
February 12th, 2006, 07:01 PM
Whatever happened to that booby trapped ZPM? They could fix that one.

Xanderic
February 12th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Whatever happened to that booby trapped ZPM? They could fix that one.
I think they sent that back with Camulus.

freyr's mother
February 12th, 2006, 07:42 PM
no they didnt. They gave Camel ass the dead one.

Xanderic
February 12th, 2006, 08:39 PM
no they didnt. They gave Camel ass the dead one.
lol Camel Ass.

Then the other one must be in Area 51 then.

SGFerrit
February 13th, 2006, 10:08 AM
I think there are probably thousands scattered throughout our two galaxies, and don't forget we found one in the pegasus galaxy in season 1 of Atlantis but they did'nt let us have it, and there was one powering the sanctuary in season 2 of Atlantis. There will be many out there.

And I also agree that earth should get the next one. Possibly to power the chair in antarctica, or maybe try to create and power a satalite like the Rand had, or power a ship to help defend earth and it's allies. Or to just establish a wormhole between earth and Atlantis for more than a second or so.

After Earth gets one I believe Atlantis should get the one after, and then Earth gets the one after, then Atlantis etc... (Once Atlantis has 3 it should'nt need anymore, as that should be able to power the city enough to let it fly)

ascott08
February 13th, 2006, 11:09 AM
does atlantis need a fourth zpm to power the control or do the other three do that, its just rodney tied the mark 2 generator directly into the chair so i am sure

NakedJehutyV2
February 13th, 2006, 09:42 PM
there's prolly one where they look for the alterran weapon in camelot

Xanderic
February 13th, 2006, 10:56 PM
I think there are probably thousands scattered throughout our two galaxies, and don't forget we found one in the pegasus galaxy in season 1 of Atlantis but they did'nt let us have it, and there was one powering the sanctuary in season 2 of Atlantis. There will be many out there.

And I also agree that earth should get the next one. Possibly to power the chair in antarctica, or maybe try to create and power a satalite like the Rand had, or power a ship to help defend earth and it's allies. Or to just establish a wormhole between earth and Atlantis for more than a second or so.

After Earth gets one I believe Atlantis should get the one after, and then Earth gets the one after, then Atlantis etc... (Once Atlantis has 3 it should'nt need anymore, as that should be able to power the city enough to let it fly)
thousands? definately not.
hundreds is already stretching it. Also the one they found in season 1 were part of the 5 gate addresses with known ZPM's. One of them was the brotherhood the other was the children.


does atlantis need a fourth zpm to power the control or do the other three do that, its just rodney tied the mark 2 generator directly into the chair so i am sure
uh what?

Steve_the_Wraith
February 14th, 2006, 04:00 AM
I doubt SG-1 will get a fully (or nearly) charged ZPM any time soon because any ZPM would be hooked up to the earth gate to allow dialing to Pegasus, Sheppard said it himself in Intruder. This would ruin any isolation Atlantis has bringing the two shows into too much contact

But if SG-1 find an almost depleted ZPM and use it up saving the world then that'd just be a rip off of "Lost City"

immhotep
February 14th, 2006, 04:08 AM
the ZPM's will all get shipped to atlantis but...if earth is in trouble hey will send a ZPM bakc via the gate powered by the first ZPM...also the ZPM they used to get to atlantis must have a bit of power left, gating to an 8 cheveron address isnt much of a powerdrain to the atlnatis one..

SGFerrit
February 15th, 2006, 10:17 AM
thousands? definately not.
hundreds is already stretching it.

There is no way of knowing how many there is, unless we find a propoer database of how many and where they all are. If need be you could always do what we saw in season 9, and take one from another universe.

I've seen a thread about the posibility of a ZPM factory. Plus, Jack made one from scratch, it can only be a matter of time before we learn how to do it, and to a better extent (as his did'nt last very long:()

Xanderic
February 15th, 2006, 11:54 AM
There is no way of knowing how many there is, unless we find a propoer database of how many and where they all are. If need be you could always do what we saw in season 9, and take one from another universe.

I've seen a thread about the posibility of a ZPM factory. Plus, Jack made one from scratch, it can only be a matter of time before we learn how to do it, and to a better extent (as his did'nt last very long:()
1st, we know there aren't a lot of ZPM's out there. Janus was only able to give us 5 addresses of known ZPM's. :S

As for taking it from another universe, it'll be really hard since what they did in Moebius got them stuck in Ra's time, where they died. If they did that again, then the other universe would have the ZPM, not us.

If the Ancients were studying another power source (Trinity), they would probably be slowly decreasing the number of ZPM's produced and concentrate more on the new power source.

Matter of time may mean years. Take the GateKeeper chair for example.

Antimatter Sam
February 15th, 2006, 06:03 PM
#1. Jack had the Ancient repository of Knowledge in his head
#2. That power gen was almost depleted by dialing to the Asguard's Ida Galaxy
#3. The power gen was depleted after the alternate universe thing
#4. We don't know how Jack made it.
Given all the above is true the homemade ZPM was built with items scrounged from the SGC and built here, it would be fairly simple to tear it apart and copy it piece by piece and build a new one, no complicated reverse engineering. In a similar vien, if Orlin built the mini stargate in Sams basement with items from her house and bought online we should be able to do the same with it to figure out how one built with basically our simple technology works and then build our own, apparently you don't need naquada to build a stargate, unless he bought it online.
But here I go again, applying logic to a Sci-fi TV show, what am I thinking?

Xanderic
February 15th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Given all the above is true the homemade ZPM was built with items scrounged from the SGC and built here, it would be fairly simple to tear it apart and copy it piece by piece and build a new one, no complicated reverse engineering. In a similar vien, if Orlin built the mini stargate in Sams basement with items from her house and bought online we should be able to do the same with it to figure out how one built with basically our simple technology works and then build our own, apparently you don't need naquada to build a stargate, unless he bought it online.
But here I go again, applying logic to a Sci-fi TV show, what am I thinking?
yeah but we don't have the one Jack built anymore. It went to the Alternate Universe.

AGateFan
February 15th, 2006, 06:41 PM
Cant the asgard build similar power sources... how bout they give us one of those.. If our Mark III naquida reactor is "close" to having enough power surly the asgard have somthing.

ussrelativity
February 15th, 2006, 06:48 PM
Mark III? I don't understand.

AGateFan
February 15th, 2006, 06:52 PM
Sorry "Mark Two naqahdah generator". That they used to power the chairs in atlantis, in the Siege. If that is Almost good enough, then the asgard most certainly have something better and thus as good as a ZPM.

Xanderic
February 15th, 2006, 07:02 PM
If the Asgard can build something as powerful as Thor's Hammer, which can power up and scan newcomers for symbiotes, I'm pretty sure they've hidden a lot of technology from the Tau'ri, showing us on a need-to-show basis.