Idiots guide to destroy Atlantis

[Salas1]

Now, seeing as the Wraith weapons are extremely powerful, and Atlantis is on the surface of a planet, and the city takes the blows with ease due to the ZPM powering it.

But, by pummeling the actual planet, causing it to collapse, then Atlantis would be taken with it before the Engines could be fired up.

[ancientaction]

well, not really. most of the planet is water. since wraith weapons fire is primaryly energy based. .. firing at water.. well. thats like trying to .. uh.. lite a match underwater. the energy from the weapons fire would disipate in the water. yea, it would heat the water up and all that.

the main land. well. they would have to do SEROUS amount of damage to land to destroy a planet

[gatelover12]

Now, seeing as the Wraith weapons are extremely powerful, and Atlantis is on the surface of a planet, and the city takes the blows with ease due to the ZPM powering it.

But, by pummeling the actual planet, causing it to collapse, then Atlantis would be taken with it before the Engines could be fired up.
like how the nuclear torpedo would work? Vaporize a large amount of water causing atlantis to be sucked in and be pummled with a tidal wave? Good plan!:cameron:

[Mister Oragahn]

Now, seeing as the Wraith weapons are extremely powerful...

Just out of curiosity, what do you base this on?

[V-MAN]

I would take more fire power to destroy the planet than it would to just shoot at the Atlantis shield until it was depleated.

[ancientaction]

yea. i mean really, here on earth, uh.. how many Nukes have we set off here, and earth is still intact. so, yea, takes some major power to destroy a planet. and the wraith weapons fire is mainly directed at atlantis, to deplete the shields. the wraith wouldn't destroy atlantis. they would just try to break the shield. then send a bunch of darts down to transport troops in to find the gate so they could get to earth... and well. all you can eat BUFFET

[DrMongol]

It would also be alot less time consuming if they just did it the old fashioned way and crashed a cruiser into the planet or the city itself, but we know the shields can withstand a wall of water and it could possibly take the cruiser crashing into it. Also, the wraith would probably not like the idea of doing a suicide run, unless maybe it was a guaranteed victory. The only other way I can think of is sabotage and for that they would have to either get inside the city or under it (wraith submarines?).

[Prior_of_the_Ori]

Best solution currently is get 12 hiveships, make the way to atlantis quickly and pummel it until its shields are down and finally destroy it. Mind you though the Wraith don't want to destroy it, they want it intact.

[Gate Master]

To add to the theme of this thread an easier way to destroy atlantis if they really wanted to of course would be two gates, one Atlantian Star and a black hole, leave to cook and end up with one nice Supernova.

[Pasankoon]

I would take more fire power to destroy the planet than it would to just shoot at the Atlantis shield until it was depleated.

The atlantis shield is powerd by a module that has enough energy to destroy a solar system.

[gatelover12]

wrong, only the power source using our own universes energy could do that, zpm's are much weaker.

[rhade]

Simple get a large dense Iron ore or something similar asteroid and use gravity to send it on its way on a direct course to Altantis. Let's see the sheild and water stand up to that. If a asteroid the size of an island can cause an Extenciton level event then all the shields in the world won't work when you have the kinetic energy, gravity and matter slaming into a planet at such speeds.

[_Owen_]

wrong, only the power source using our own universes energy could do that, zpm's are much weaker.
Actually in "Zero Hour" Carter stated that the tainted ZPM would likely be able to destroy our entire solar system. So the explosion in whichever Atlantis episode that was was probably would of proportion, unless the device wasn't working properly or fully or something like that.

I believe above someone questioned the validity of the statement that the Wraith weapons were powerful enough to destroy a planet. I would have to agree, they may look powerful, but I think at most they could decimate a continent.

Now if you want to destroy atlantis what you do is steal an asgard ship and find a black hole, you power your ship with the black hole, then you use that power to create two new black holes with the matter replicator, then you set those black holes on a collision course right above atlantis. Boom! Osscilating black hole and massive gravitational waves.

[gatelover12]

I stand corrected Owen.

[_Owen_]

You were right on the inside ;) lol. I know someone probably made a mistake somewhere. Probably the writers of that episode... I can't remember its name... either that or the device was running at maximum power, I can't remember that either, lol. But it was a cool explosion.

[ItsDan]

Actually in "Zero Hour" Carter stated that the tainted ZPM would likely be able to destroy our entire solar system.

Right, the exploding ZPM could destroy a solar system. The shield doesn't use the energy of an exploding ZPM. McKay stated that the shield would have only survived with their current ZPM for a matter of hours under Wraith bombardment.

[aAnubiSs]

It's also possible Carter greatly overestimated the potential damage the tainted ZPM would do.

[ItsDan]

I doubt it, Carter is smart 'n stuff. A tiny amount of radioactive material can be used to make a bomb capable of leveling many square miles of the earth. That doesn't mean a nuclear power plant can output that same amount of energy, just because the source is the same. Machines are never 100% efficient.

[aAnubiSs]

I doubt it, Carter is smart 'n stuff. A tiny amount of radioactive material can be used to make a bomb capable of leveling many square miles of the earth. That doesn't mean a nuclear power plant can output that same amount of energy, just because the source is the same. Machines are never 100% efficient.
As were the people who created the first A-bomb, however they weren't sure that it wouldn't incinerate the entire atmosphere. Guess what, they were wrong.

[AscendedWarrior]

Now if you want to destroy atlantis what you do is steal an asgard ship and find a black hole, you power your ship with the black hole, then you use that power to create two new black holes with the matter replicator, then you set those black holes on a collision course right above atlantis. Boom! Osscilating black hole and massive gravitational waves.

Why so much work? Easier just to supernova the sun if you wan't to destroy Atlantis, or an asteroid as the Goa'uld tried.

The city is open to the atmosphere so the wraith could poison it to kill everyone on Atlantis, without damaging the city.

[aAnubiSs]

It's not sure a supernova would destroy the planet. Earth wouldn't be destroyed if Sol went supernova, granted all life on the surface would be extinct though :)

[Auralis]

Actually blowing up a planet is an insane difficult task and requieres massiv amount of energy.
We are talking here in the region of 10^32 joule.
As comparison our sun produces only 3,8x10^26 joule per second in total.
Thats 1000000 times less.

[_Owen_]

Why so much work? Easier just to supernova the sun if you wan't to destroy Atlantis, or an asteroid as the Goa'uld tried.

The city is open to the atmosphere so the wraith could poison it to kill everyone on Atlantis, without damaging the city.
Why so much work? Because it's interesting. I think I said in my post that it was way more than you would need to do, but it is still interesting. That's why so much work :).

[AscendedWarrior]

Why so much work? Because it's interesting. I think I said in my post that it was way more than you would need to do, but it is still interesting. That's why so much work :).


You didn't mention anything about "that it was way more than you would need to do, but it is still interesting." But you're right it would be interesting to see;).


It's not sure a supernova would destroy the planet. Earth wouldn't be destroyed if Sol went supernova, granted all life on the surface would be extinct though :)

I never said the planet would get destroyed only that atlantis would.

[Salas1]

Just out of curiosity, what do you base this on?

They deplete a ZPM in a matter of days.

[Gate Master]

If you really want to destroy the planet as well that Atlantis is on then all you need to do is drill a hole to the core with some sort of partical weapon then use one of those Tokra gadgets they used against Sokar

[Ouroboros]

To destroy Atlantis all the Wraith would have to do would be grab more of those asteroids from whatever belt they did in seige and just start raining them down on the planet.

By raining down I mean towing them up to fractional c speeds and then aiming them at the city or in it's rough area.

If they could drop a rock right on top of the shield I've got to think that would slam the city right into the ocean floor and probably bury it.

The massive and sudden acceleration would also turn everyone in it into rasberry jam, since we know their intertial dampners aren't up and running yet.

If they can't aim the asteroid right they could just use a hiveship in a fractional C kamikaze attack to get the same effect.

Ok so that might not destroy the city (it might if the strucrure can't withstand the acceloration without dampners either) but it would kill everyone on it and let the Wraith start working on ways to move in, which is what they actually want.

It might also be worth trying to open a hyperspace portal right on top of the city to see what that does to it. I'd venture nothing good.

[TechnoWraith]

You know, we could just hand the place over to the wraith for that matter. :wraithanime11:

[Gate Master]

That does pose an interesting qu. Why cant they bypass the shields using hyperdrive tech or can ancient shields stop that as well. With the size of the place getting in without crashing would be possible.