Season 13 and beyond

[Enokrad]

Having read a lot of pro and anti upcoming Season threads over the past few years I‘ve read quite a few interesting opinions. Everyone is entitled to anything he wants. Its human experiences that shape the things we like and dislike. That is what makes each one of us unique. But being that we are approaching the end of the 9th season, we have already begun talking about possible scenarios about likes and dislikes of the coming season. Being that shows such as Stargate are on a annual contract basis, most people tend to not vision to far ahead since the future and existence of such shows is uncertain. For me I have enjoyed watching the wonderful world of the Stargate universe and so far I haven’t gotten bored of it yet. I have found it to incorporate many different subjects that I love and enjoy. Science, fiction, politics, religion, alliances, villains, mysteries, battles, heroes, villains, and most of all exploration. I think the last one is what defines humanity and our goal to seek and obtain more knowledge. While all these shows are mere works of fiction, they are able to entertain all those ideas and give the audience inspiration of the future and why not a few mere glimpses of it. It’s the year 2006 and we have been in space, walked to the moon and planning trips to mars for the future. That would have been pretty hard to believe 100 years ago. It wasn’t till about 50 years ago we saw what Earth really looks like from out there. Thought stories, books, television and now the internet, the past few generations have been inspired to seek what was thought impossible. It was such stories that helped inspire all those bright minds that are creating innovations right this minute. For me Stargate is one of those shows that thought it’s fiction, I believe has been able to do such things. I for one have enjoyed the past 9 seasons and have no reason to stop yet. There are episodes that I’ve enjoyed as well as others that I didn’t. Even so I wouldn’t change it either way. I can only hope that such shows keep airing and providing entertainment to the level that they have and even better. I hope the make it all the way to 13, 14 or even 15 seasons. If at some point during then I feel that they are not contributing or not entertaining, I can simply stop watching. Either way, it doesn’t cost me anything financially, rather than the time I spent watching them. I’m just fascinated that people that are not enjoying all these new developments, stories or whatever it is that they don’t like, are still watching it. Even more they find the time to go badmouth it. If you don’t like it, why bother? Well some are just posting to increase their posts, some of whom don’t even believe what they are posting, while others are simply struck by the thought that the ideal (that TPTB have created) world that they envision in their heads (the viewers) is even real and these changes disrupt the balance of that ideal world. I’m sorry but wake up. It’s a TV show. A quite good one at that, at least from my point of view.

Then again, what eventually comes to mind is why do I even bother? NUF SED

[the fifth man]

Season 13 and beyond, I am all for that my friend.:) I've really enjoyed season 9 so far, and am really looking forward to season 10. I think it will probably be better than this season (I know, an early prediction, but I'll make it anyways). As long as tptb still care about telling quality stories with interesting, compelling characters, I'll watch this show. And I think we could have that for many years to come.

[The Engineer]

I subscribe to idea.
Only the Moon landing I think was a fake. But I also found on gateworld that NASA is trying to develope hyperdrive technology and in 5-6 years do some testings. I hope it works and won't find alliens or them finding us.

[Davidtourniquet]

I think as long as they don't start repeating stuff theres no reason why Stargate can't go on. I think we're ready for another film to be honest.

[Auralis]

The main pitfall they can run into most likely, besides oring repeative stories, is to rais the tech level to quickly. Or make the enemies way to powerfull, like, umm, the Ori.
I mean, what can come after the Ori that would still be threathing ones they are defeated?

[weejim]

who knows but i bet it will be great.............

[your_god]

:sheppard: I would love to see another spin of show. There has been hints that the asgard where talking to speices in another galaxcy. In the 5th Race Thor said the Ancients moved on from our Galaxcy long ago so it could be possible not everyone accended and there may be other stargate universes yet un explored.

I woiuld love to see a red or yellow stargate and maybe explore the galaxcy of those unknown little fellas the Furlings! I mean they could go into a number of reasons why they havnt been seen in our Galaxy for so long. Perhaps fighting another Enemy or fighting a Civil War like the Ancients did.

Loads of posibilities for the future.:jonas:

[the fifth man]

I look forward to whatever the future of Stargate has in store for us.

[Lord Jago]

There is an old saying 'Change brings progress'
I think if Stargate SG1 ever gets to Season 13, there will be none of the original cast members in the program in a recuring role. If stargate SG1 is to survive it has to continue to evole like it has done for the last 9 years.

So far im am confident that the producers, writers and directors are doing a bang on job. Stargate will go down in history as one of the longest running SCI-FI's and one of the most loved. Much as Star Trek and Star Wars is loved by millions throughout the world, Star Gate will reside with those two also.

And in other news, the polar ice caps continue to melt and George Bush buys land in Virgina for his new Beachside Villa. Whooo Yahhhh!!!!!

[Enokrad]

And in other news, the polar ice caps continue to melt and George Bush buys land in Virgina for his new Beachside Villa. Whooo Yahhhh!!!!!

LOL

Good reading about global warming is STATE OF FEAR by Michael Crichton.

Good GW Bush Blooper (http://www.killsometime.com/Video/Files-1952196/Bush-Blooper.wmv)


Back to the subject thought, I was sad when Don S. Davis, Teryl Rothery & RDA left, but we can’t expect them to stay on the show forever. As they leave, the show evolves, and change is good. Shows that don’t make it are the ones that keep repeating the same things over and over. Part of the audience will get bored eventually if every new episode is like a repeat of another. That is what brought Star Trek to its end as well as McGuyver. Not to mention all those other ones before them…….

[HirogenGater]

Back to the subject thought, I was sad when Don S. Davis, Teryl Rothery & RDA left, but we can’t expect them to stay on the show forever. As they leave, the show evolves, and change is good. Shows that don’t make it are the ones that keep repeating the same things over and over. Part of the audience will get bored eventually if every new episode is like a repeat of another. That is what brought Star Trek to its end as well as McGuyver. Not to mention all those other ones before them…….

Exactly, shows that don't change die off. I went into season nine with no expectations, and considering it a new show. I think more people needed that attitude. The show can't stay the same forever.

[GateMan2000]

LOL

Good reading about global warming is STATE OF FEAR by Michael Crichton.

Good GW Bush Blooper (http://www.killsometime.com/Video/Files-1952196/Bush-Blooper.wmv)


Back to the subject thought, I was sad when Don S. Davis, Teryl Rothery & RDA left, but we can’t expect them to stay on the show forever. As they leave, the show evolves, and change is good. Shows that don’t make it are the ones that keep repeating the same things over and over. Part of the audience will get bored eventually if every new episode is like a repeat of another. That is what brought Star Trek to its end as well as McGuyver. Not to mention all those other ones before them…….


While change my be good...A lot of people cannot or will not accept it. If you take them out of their confort zone, then they hate it. To answer your question why the sit around and complain, I think they are waiting for the show to go back to what it was, which it never will. They really like the old and can't get in the new :) And to as why they choose to be negative and complain about it...lol... its their right to complain! LoL...I happen to like the Ori angle. The Goa'uld got old quick after about the 6th season and IMO should have changed after that.

[The Engineer]

Change is good, but not always. Sometimes is crap. Just because some characters dissapear doesn't mean that show evolves, just because someone dies or leaves doesn't mean it's evolving. Don't let you get fooled by this wrong and dangerous principle. SG-1 didn't evolved because some charecters died/leaved (Martouf/Frasier/Jacob)/(Hammond/O'Neill). It evolved because the writers were still able to come with good stories.
The show evolved not because of their departure but against it.

[Enokrad]

Change is good, but not always. Sometimes is crap. Just because some characters dissapear doesn't mean that show evolves, just because someone dies or leaves doesn't mean it's evolving. Don't let you get fooled by this wrong and dangerous principle. SG-1 didn't evolved because some charecters died/leaved (Martouf/Frasier/Jacob)/(Hammond/O'Neill). It evolved because the writers were still able to come with good stories.
The show evolved not because of their departure but against it.

You’re right. Change could be as good as bad. So far they haven’t disappointed me yet. And characters dying isn’t evolving, but it creates the mystery of what is going to happen. Other than the main cast, everyone else is more or less expendable. Most recently
The Prometheus was destroyed.. Didn’t see that one coming. It showed the SGC underestimating their opponents as did SGA in Allies & they got PWNED. The show is not a comedy that will be there to cheer you up all the time. It’s a sci fi drama, and these things will happen. I still remember Heroes where Janet died, and I do agree with the producers as of being one of the best episodes. So long Prometheus, you shall be remembered.

[HirogenGater]

You’re right. Change could be as good as bad. So far they haven’t disappointed me yet. And characters dying isn’t evolving, but it creates the mystery of what is going to happen. Other than the main cast, everyone else is more or less expendable. Most recently
The Prometheus was destroyed.. Didn’t see that one coming. It showed the SGC underestimating their opponents as did SGA in Allies & they got PWNED. The show is not a comedy that will be there to cheer you up all the time. It’s a sci fi drama, and these things will happen. I still remember Heroes where Janet died, and I do agree with the producers as of being one of the best episodes. So long Prometheus, you shall be remembered.

Yes, it will be remembered.

[The Engineer]

After seeing this episode I remember when the Prometheus was introduced and O'Neill's objection towards its name: "Why Prometheus? It's a Greek tragedy!" or something like that. Looks like TPTB took care of the tragedy part too. It was unevoidable. Sooner or later had to happen. Too bad. I shall miss those good episodes with Prometheus in it.:(
C'est la vie.

[GateMan2000]

TPTB destroyed it to usher in the new class of ships :)

[Darkstar]

my opinion is that with the show evolving and the overall quality of the show being somewhat diluted as i have posted before (and had many agree with that assesment so don't slam me down for being anti-stargate!!!!), a further series being season 10 may be the last SG1 series to grace the screens of our homes, a season 11 is a possibility if and i stress that word "if" they can shape the Ori story arc in a direction that is fresh and new, believable and entertaining.
a change to the SG1 series be it that a new enemy is introduced and the old is repalced a new spin off would need to be made, im sure TPTB have a vast colection of ideas and if they see fit to incorporate this into their new spin off in a similar theme to SG1 much like SGA has then its up to the TV networks to swallow the idea and screen it much to the pleasure of old fans and new fans one would hope.
what im saying is that any further complete changes and character alterations would effectivly kill off the show, and it would nessesitate a new spin off or just to quit while they are ahead and end on a good year :D

[The Engineer]

The only way I see SG-1 cancelled is if Sci Fi Channel gets chicken.

[Drakal]

I agree with most of what I have seen. The show has been running for 9 years, and ever since the movie the stories have been great. As long as we keep the Writers happy with our praise from the crowd, they should have no problem continuing for a few more seasons. But on the other hand, letting some characters go is a hard thing to do. Carter and Oneill are hard to expend, but Oneill was taken from us, Daniel was gone a season, all these things will be hard to overcome if that time comes but we will survive. I do know that I will watch as long as the show continues. Even if Atlantis is all that is left but they move atlantis to earth like was originally planned. I could see many different things going with future seasons, as well as the other episodes.

BTW I completely agree with the posts about Fridays Episode. It will be missed, I just hope we can move on without it.

[the fifth man]

I look forward to many more seasons of SG-1, the smartest and funniest show I've ever seen. I don't think anything can top it, not in my book anyways.:)

[Darkstar]

i hope SG1 dosen't burn out with such story arcs as:

alternate realities: ones where SG1 or whats left are frequently helping others to fight say.....the evil asgard in their galaxy or the allied Goa'uld who are in need of help.......eek....not a good end to a great show.

alternativly

time travel episodes, if we need a time travel series/show then TPTB should make one and see it flop on its ass, we don't want bizzare temporal wars and sorylines that confuse the fans, sketchy storylines that don't fit in with what is set in stone or changed timelines that re-invent the galaxy to make enemies friends and so on.

im in a *****y mood to day i think......beware hehe :D

[Cherriey]

If and when they ever decide to deprive us of this fantastic show I plan on demanding that cap-off movie they promised us. =0) No sense in leaving all the plot-lines dangling in limbo.

[Twinks22]

Hey i'm one of those people who would die if sg-1 got cancelled but IMHO
Vala mal doran will destroy the show as we Know it!!!!!! and IT WILL BE CANCELLED .
:jack_new_anime07:

[The Engineer]

If and when they ever decide to deprive us of this fantastic show I plan on demanding that cap-off movie they promised us. =0) No sense in leaving all the plot-lines dangling in limbo.
But I doubt that even a 3 hour movie would be sufficient to tie up all the loose plot lines.

[The Engineer]

Hey i'm one of those people who would die if sg-1 got cancelled but IMHO
Vala mal doran will destroy the show as we Know it!!!!!! and IT WILL BE CANCELLED .
:jack_new_anime07:
IF, I repeat IF gets cancelled after season 10 it will not be because of Vala Mal Doran.

[Twinks22]

But I doubt that even a 3 hour movie would be sufficient to tie up all the loose plot lines.


I tottaly agree stargate could never truly end!!!



vala sucks!!!!

[Twinks22]

IF, I repeat IF gets cancelled after season 10 it will not be because of Vala Mal Doran.



OH YES IT WILL!!! VALA MAL DORAN tottaly ruins what stargate is about




vala sucks

[SGFerrit]

TPTB destroyed it to usher in the new class of ships :)

Well, they didnt HAVE to destroy it, they could have just used the new ships anyone, but it did make for one very Powerful storyline.

[SGFerrit]

I Love Vala Yayayyaya!

[Twinks22]

I Love Vala Yayayyaya!
CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!

[SGFerrit]

CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!

Stop Trolling!

[Commander Ivanova]

Plot lines couldn't be tied up in a movie because the only people who'd go to see it are die-hard Gaters (nobody else would have a clue what was going on). And, though we are many, I don't think the makers would recoup the huge expense of a film through our cinema admissions.

[AGateFan]

Stop Trolling!
Please define trolling... because in my definition you both just did it.

Plot lines couldn't be tied up in a movie because the only people who'd go to see it are die-hard Gaters (nobody else would have a clue what was going on). And, though we are many, I don't think the makers would recoup the huge expense of a film through our cinema admissions.

I agree, it would not work to make this into a movie. To do a movie you would need to introduce a brand new arc that everyone (even non fans) can follow.

[Mattathias2.0]

I am a big fan of Claudia Black and I love Vala...

But I heard they plan on toning her down a bit for the 10th season so I can't complain...

Mattathias

[Cherriey]

I have always been under the impression that 'trolling' was tearing down something repeatedly and with a single-mindedness equal to that of a robotic bull dog. Then again that's just me.

I believe everyone has their own ideas on what Stargate is about (which is one of the reasons why the powers that be don't read the forums and then make critical decisions). For me there has always been one major constant that has never been broken: people traveling through wormholes using a device known as the Stargate. Anything besides that is icing on the cake that can be formed however the wind takes the writers.

So as you can see Vala does not 'ruin everything that Stargate is about!' as you so dramatically put it. She brings an interesting dynamic to the show that has yet to be fully explored.

[SylvreWolfe]

If they can keep things original and entertaining then keep it going as long as it stays that way.

[AcidSquid]

-The Commander of the Daedalus will be Dominar
-Sam will shave her head
-Mitchell will stop imitating Jack

[SGFerrit]

Please define trolling... because in my definition you both just did it.


You do realise he has gone into almost EVERY thread that even mentions Vala today (And even some that don't) And has basically said KILL VALA, DEATH TO VALA, I HATE VALA AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE, VALA WILL BE THE END OF SG-1!, NO ONE LIKES VALA!

You get my point. I was simply showing him how annoying it can be when people do that. Any problems with that?

[SGFerrit]

-Mitchell will stop imitating Jack

Prior to popular belief Mitchell doesnt imitate Jack, only people who want him to imitate Jack in order to find a reason to dislike Mitchell sees him as imitating Jack.

[JUNIOR]

Prior to popular belief Mitchell doesnt imitate Jack, only people who want him to imitate Jack in order to find a reason to dislike Mitchell sees him as imitating Jack.

I agree

[SGFerrit]

I agree

Why thank you:cameron:

[Mattathias2.0]

Prior to popular belief Mitchell doesnt imitate Jack, only people who want him to imitate Jack in order to find a reason to dislike Mitchell sees him as imitating Jack.


I have to agree... In this week's new episode, Mitchell insulted most of the team members in regards to posing as drug dealers, insisted he could handle the Lucian Alliance, and made a reference (yet again) to his grandma.

Jack would never do any of that.

Mattathias

[SGFerrit]

I have to agree... In this week's new episode, Mitchell insulted most of the team members in regards to posing as drug dealers, insisted he could handle the Lucian Alliance, and made a reference (yet again) to his grandma.

Jack would never do any of that

Yeah but Jack was older and more experienced, and frankly the way EVERY LITTLE THING would always be fine if Jack was on the case scenario was starting to really bore me. It's good that Cam needs to learn, and that he is a rookie and makes mistakes. I like his cocky attitude, and the way he is'nt always right.

[Mattathias2.0]

Yeah but Jack was older and more experienced, and frankly the way EVERY LITTLE THING would always be fine if Jack was on the case scenario was starting to really bore me. It's good that Cam needs to learn, and that he is a rookie and makes mistakes. I like his cocky attitude, and the way he is'nt always right.

I did watch the Stargate movie, and S1-8 of SG1.

I also have watched all of S9.

To conclude: I know.

Mattathias

[SGFerrit]

Then you'll agree that Jack was getting a bit boring always making things alright

[Mattathias2.0]

Then you'll agree that Jack was getting a bit boring always making things alright

It did get tiresome, yes.

A good example was in "The Other Side", when Daniel was right all along... Jack fixed his mistake... sort of. Daniel could have done something to help.

That episode bugs me for that reason.

Mattathias